Repent of Words

& Obey Logos!

Stop Speaking - Find Self-Control - Save Yourself by Shutting your Mouth!

A Sharp Weapon and a Fierce Battle Plan for Condemning “the Fool And His Words” far from Your Heart!

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

11/25/05* (+Word: Created); 11/4/07 (generally enhanced?); [~2008-2010: Embrace Dialogue, Fighting Cheap Shots (as seen below)]; 3/10/10 (Word: Modified)-4/17/10**; 4/23/10 (versions A-C); 4/29/10; 5/3-5/4/10; 6/15-6/19/10; 8/27/10; 10/29/10-11/2/10; 12/2/10; 12/8/10; 1/24/11-1/25/11; 2/18/11; 8/3/11; 10/12/11; 10/26/12; 4/27/13-4/28/13; other dates; 2/9/17 (added: Obey Logos, Embrace Dialogue, Fighting Cheap Shots, etc.)

[* original title: the Fool And His Words (written and presented (as a sobering charge/confrontation) to brother in law: Jacob Fletcher)]

[** ~2010: the Fool And His Words, Retitled: Repent of Words & initially presented to disciples (& Mr Jim Barger II - during his visit)]

>> Additions/ TODO!

Repent of Written Words

Ephesians Project

Cursing

Obey Logos

PrioritizingCommunication

· CommunicationQuirks

C:\Files\Bookshelf\ROW-Resources

Repent of Interrupting

Cooperative Communication

>> Update: ROW | AbTr | SOM | Dis | LLO |

This is a companion Bible study with the Bible studies entitled, “Absolute Truth” and “Embrace Dialogue” (unfinished).

Contents

Purpose. 2

Introduction. 2

It is time to Repent of the Religion that Indulges. 2

Should We Go on Talking? – Let us Instead Fear God! 2

Test Your own Salvation. 2

We Still Need to Be Saved. 3

If in Some Way. 3

The End of your Faith. 3

Full Reward. 3

Righteous Scarcely Saved. 3

You and I still Need the Gospel 4

Fear and Trembling Before the Corinthians. 4

Work Out Salvation With Fear And Trembling. 4

Calling and Election. 4

Confidence. 5

All Words Come from the Heart 5

One of The Bible’s Main Descriptions of Bad Confidence. 5

Confidence through Knowledge. 6

Warnings about Confidence through Knowledge. 6

Thoughts and Warnings from my “Inspirations” Prayer Journal 7

Do Not Presumptuously Exalt Yourself into Ministry. 7

Conclusions About Confidence…... 8

Don’t Play Games as a Hypocrite and Make Excuses to Talk. 8

Remove Confidence from Your Heart and Your Mouth. 8

Self-Control 8

The Sin of The Lips. 9

Don't Boast Yourself 9

Warnings Against Conversation Competition. 9

Repent of Interrupting. 9

You Are Commanded Not to speak until You First Actually Listen. 9

Confirmed in Sirach. 10

Reaffirmed By the Qumran Community Rule. 10

Even Lost People Knew This. 10

Interrupting is Called “Disorder”. 11

The Summarized Story of Nabal and David. 12

Filibustering is Sin Too. 13

Repent of Being Self-Appointed Kings. 13

A Summary Against Interrupting. 13

Exclusivity. 14

Only Divine Words. 14

Don’t Be A Presumptuous “Prophet”. 14

Jesus Only Does and Says what He Sees from The Father 15

Speaking Independently is Like Fornication. 15

General Passage from James. 15

James Chapter One. 15

James Chapter Three. 16

The “Stop Speaking” Scriptures! 16

Idle Words. 16

Quick to Hear, Slow to Speak. 16

Bridle Tongue. 16

Be Bridled When Around the Wicked. 16

Keep Tongue from Speaking Evil 17

The Multitude of Words Means Sin. 17

Guard Mouth, Guard Soul 17

Meditate Instead of Rashly Talking. 17

Silence Can Make a Fool Look Wise. 17

Keep Your Soul from Trouble. 17

Don’t Be Quick to Speak; Don’t be Recognized as a Fool 17

Holiness Heals you from the Foolishness we are Plagued with. 18

Other Thoughts. 18

“Adult Learning” Disqualifies You From Discipleship. 18

Psychology of adult learners. 19

How do We Hold our Tongue?. 23

Pray. 23

Good Words. 23

Love Right Words. 23

Good Testimonies from God! 23

Both Good and Bad Word Dynamics. 24

Summaries Conclusions. 24

The Test of a True Prophet 24

Purpose

Introduction

We Should Fear; Many Have Been Destroyed by Their own Words!

This target on Words is one of the more important overall exhortations that applies to so many people. I've seen so many, or should I say, way too many "well-meaning" people destroyed because they continually lived in sin in this area.

· It does not matter if you seem sincere, it matters if you have a bridled tongue.

· It does not matter if you think that you are loving Jesus, it matters if you are actually obeying Him and not multiplying words.

· It does not matter if you think that you are true, hard-core, zealous, impressive, prophetic, faithful or any other virtuous quality, if you like talking, even if you tag a "biblical" subject line to it trying to honor God, your faith is still vain and abominable in God's sight!

More than people who seem to be talking about "good things" and "biblical truths," God demands that we actually be people who obey Him in this area of our tongue, and repent of the demonic lack of self-control, and the filthy, prideful self-exaltation of talking, and liking to talk.

It is time to Repent of the Religion that Indulges

The Bible warns us against having a religion that has impressive words, but does not stop indulgence:

Col_2:23 CAB These things indeed [μὲν] have a reputation [λόγον: word of] of wisdom in self-imposed religion^G1479, false humility^G5012, and severity on the body, but are not of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

Greek:

ἐν ἐθελοθρησκίᾳ^G1479 καὶ ταπεινοφροσύνῃ^G5012 καὶ ἀφειδίᾳ^G857 σώματος

Should We Go on Talking? – Let us Instead Fear God!

A Basic Basis for first actually being a real Christian who will make it to Heaven

Test Your own Salvation

2Co_13:5 WEB Test your own selves, whether you are in the faith. Test your own selves. Or don't you know as to your own selves, that Jesus Christ is in you? -- unless indeed you are disqualified ^G96. [αδοκιμοι ^G96 (adokimos) – that is, “not” (a) “aproved” (dokimos)]

Ú Don’t be proud and offended so that you are unwilling to examine your own Salvation!

Ú He’s not asking you to do anything that he’s not willing to do himself (Compare Gal_2:2; 2Jn_1:8-9)

1Co_9:27 WEB but I beat my body and bring it into submission, lest by any means, after I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected ^G96. [αδοκιμος ^G96 (adokimos) – that is, “not” (a) “aproved” (dokimos)]

We Still Need to Be Saved

Salvation never ceases to be an issue

1Ti_4:13-16 CAB Until I come, give attention to public reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14 Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you through prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership. 15 Meditate on these things; be in these things, so that your progress may be evident to all. 16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.

Even Jesus had this right attitude:

Heb_5:7

If in Some Way

Php_3:7-15 CAB But such things as were gain to me, these I have considered loss for the sake of Christ. 8 More than that I also consider all things to be loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have sustained the loss of all things, and I consider them to be rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 so as to know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 if in some way [εἴ πως] I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12 Not that I have already obtained, or have already been made perfect; but I press on, if also I may lay hold of that for which I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I do not count myself to have laid hold; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Therefore, as many as are mature, let us think this way; and if in anything you think otherwise, even this God will reveal to you.

The End of your Faith

1Pe_1:9 KJV Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

[TSK: Rom_6:22; Heb_11:13; Jam_1:21]

These verses don't leave you complacently saying, "I'm saved," but ask you, "Are you going to be saved" in the end. Don't confidently say, "I'm saved," ask in fear, "Will I be saved?"

In this section, look at all of the charges to fear God that even the greatest of the saints received!

Full Reward

2Jn_1:8 CAB Look to yourselves, lest we should lose those things for which we worked, but that we should receive a full reward.

Righteous Scarcely Saved

1Pe_4:18 CAB And "If the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the godless and the sinner appear?"

You and I still Need the Gospel

Said to a Church:

Rom_1:13-15 CAB Now I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, that often I planned to come to you (and I was hindered until now), that I might have some fruit among you also, just as among the other Gentiles. 14 I am a debtor both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to wise and to unwise. 15 So, as much as is in me, I am eager to preach the gospel to you who are in Rome also.

Fear and Trembling Before the Corinthians

1Co_2:1-5 CAB And I, brothers, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom, announcing to you the testimony of God… 3 And I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 in order that your faith might not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

It was this way for Jesus too:

Work Out Salvation With Fear And Trembling

Heb_5:5-9 CAB So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You." 6 Just as He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek"; 7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up both prayers and supplications, with strong crying and tears to the One who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His fear of God, 8 though He was a Son, He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

(This is absolutely amazing!)

Php_2:3-12 CAB doing nothing according to selfish ambition or conceit, but with humility, regarding one another as being better than yourselves. 4 Let each of you look out not only for his own concerns, but also for the concerns of others. 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming to be in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him, and has graciously given Him a name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee may bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue may confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;

>> Sync: ROW (Php_2:3-12) | SPI (Php_2:5-11) | LO (Php_2:1-4) | LLO | Dis (Php_2:2-3) | PFO (Php_2:12) | BBMem

Calling and Election

2Pe_1:10 CAB Therefore, brothers, be even more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for by doing these things you shall by no means stumble at any time.

Heb_4:1 CAB Therefore let us fear, lest while the promise remains to enter into His rest, anyone of you seems to have fallen short.

Heb_12:21 - OT was this way, even to Moses

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Heb_12:28-29 CAB …let us have grace [favor], through which we serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire.

1Pe_1:17 CAB And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear;

2Co_7:1 CAB Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

(this makes Godly repentance: 2Co_7:11, and makes you receive people differently: 2Co_7:15)

Rom_3:18 - no fear of God before eyes

Rom_11:20 - don't be proud, but fear

Rom_13:7 - give to all their dues

2Co_11:3 - fear for other's salvation (also: 2Co_12:20)

Eph_5:21 - submit in fear of God

Eph_6:5 - servants with Fear & Trembling (also: 1Pe_2:18)

1Ti_5:20 - it results from rebuking as we ought

Heb_11:7 - Noah move with it

1Pe_2:17 - fear God, Honor the King

1Pe_3:2 – wives should do it to their husbands (same Greek “fear” in Eph_5:33)

1Pe_3:15 - even answer with fear

Jud_1:12 - spots without fear (no fear = End-times apostasy)

Jud_1:23 - save some with fear

Rev_11:18 - saints rewarded for fear

Rev_14:7 - loud voice demanding it

Rev_15:4 - hits everyone eventually

Rev_18:10/ Rev_18:15 - nations will do it at God's Judgment

Rev_19:5 - charged unto Praise

Confidence

Where do talking sins come from?

What is the drive behind us that is pushing us to speak?

All Words Come from the Heart

Mat_12:34-37 WEB You offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. 35 The good man out of his good treasure brings out good things, and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings out evil things. 36 I tell you that every idle word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

>> the luxury of speaking…

>> words are your treasure in your heart

>> if you have an evil treasure, and you speak it out of your mouth a lot, you will definitely be condemned

Notice these things:

- We see that all speaking sins come from a wicked, messed up, bad, evil heart

- The evil and wicked words in verses Mat_12:34-35 are not exemplified by overtly gross and blatant crimes, but instead they are described by the phrase “every idle word that men speak” in verse Mat_12:36

- What is the perversion of the heart that adjusts a person to keep speaking such evil, idle words? – It can be summarized by the word, “confidence” in the passages quoted later in this section, especially because Jesus says that they come from the heart in this passage.

- In verse Mat_12:37 Jesus shows us that the evil, idle words will shoot us straight into Hell and condemnation

- So keep your mind on “The Judgment” when you have a mouth, especially when you are around others and are tempted to talk

- We need a serious and sober heart inspection to keep our mouth from condemning our whole body in the end!

Ecc_5:6 CAB Do not allow your mouth to lead your flesh to sin…

The LXX (not the MT) has it:

Deu_23:23 CAB You shall observe the words that proceed from between your lips; and as you have vowed a gift to the Lord God, so shall you do that which you have spoken with your mouth.

Deu_23:23 KJV That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the LORD thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.

One of The Bible’s Main Descriptions of Bad Confidence

Pro_27:12 CAB A wise man, when evils are approaching, hides himself, but fools pass on, and will be punished. [also see Pro_22:3]

Confidence through Knowledge

Wis_9:5-6 Brenton For I thy servant and son of thine handmaid am a feeble person, and of a short time, and too young for the understanding of judgment and laws. 6 For though a man be never so perfect among the children of men, yet if thy wisdom be not with him, he shall be nothing regarded.

Wis_9:13-18 Brenton For what man is he that can know the counsel of God? or who can think what the will of the Lord is? 14 For the thoughts of mortal men are miserable, and our devices are but uncertain [see NETS]. 15 For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things. 16 And hardly do we guess aright at things that are upon earth, and with labour do we find the things that are before us: but the things that are in heaven who hath searched out? 17 And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send thy Holy Spirit from above? 18 For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through wisdom.

>> get verses…

Important Read: 1Co_1 – 2

1Co_8:1-3 CAB …we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he has come to know nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, this one has been known by Him.

1Co_3:18 CAB Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool, that he may become wise.

Jas_3:13 CAB Is there anyone wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his works are in meekness of wisdom. (also see verse Jas_3:14-15)

Also compare:

“1Co_1:18-21, 1Co_4:10… Pro_3:5, Pro_3:7, Pro_26:12; Isa_5:21; Jer_8:8; Rom_11:25; Rom_12:16” (TSK)

Warnings about Confidence through Knowledge

Just why do we have to speak and show people that we know something, when the Bible says we should show real wisdom in “meekness” (as seen previously in Jas_3:13)? If it were right to speak whenever we knew something, then it would never be that we would have to practice self-control and hold our tongue if we were “wise and endued with knowledge,” but we know for sure that this belief is wrong and evil because it would contradict these Scriptures that clearly command us to show it in “meekness”.

What right do we have to go about telling everyone all of these things we know when Jesus, who always knew unthinkably more than our foolish minds can grasp, held His tongue and had to practice self-denial? What unreasonable demon has so seized us that we think of our own mouth as so much more distinguished than Jesus’ mouth so that we should never have to stop talking all the time, as long as we knew about something we can say? When are we going to repent of this wickedness? When are we going to be humbled by our forerunner enough to close our foolish mouths that we have judged so wise as to never need to be closed?

It may seem to be that I could warn 10,000 times for people to repent and stop talking, but I say it only to have 20,000 confident talkers who think they have so much to say from God by the stirring of their own belly.

Indeed, if anyone who hears or reads this perishes by the unbearable anger and wrath of God because they did not close their mouths, I am innocent of their lives. Their blood be upon their own heads, because I clearly warned them to repent of these things from the Scriptures, but they stiffened their necks and hardened their hearts, and with blinded and irrational eyes would not repent and cease to open their mouths!

Pro_13:3 CAB …he that is hasty with his lips shall bring terror upon himself…

Jas_3:13 CAB Is there anyone wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his works are in meekness of wisdom.

Thoughts and Warnings from my “Inspirations” Prayer Journal

Damnable Confidence

The fearful callus and puffing of time, and the weight of experience, brings damnable confidence.

1/28/10; 2/2/10

Destroy Foolish Confidence

The more you defile your value for the foolish confidences gained by valuing the flesh, the closer you will come to the integrity of the unencumbered faith of a child. You will be able to operate with clean hands and a pure heart of faith when you dishonor and disregard the things you have previously learned to gain confidence from. Ironically, the value of fleshly confidence is the worst enemy to clean faith. Honoring God means despising the very basis and foundation of your greatest confidence.

See: Php_3:4-11

2/11/2009

Do Not Presumptuously Exalt Yourself into Ministry

1Ti_1:12 CAB And I give thanks to the One who empowers me, Christ Jesus our Lord, because He considered me faithful, putting me into the ministry,

God put Paul into the ministry based on counting him faithful, but we so quickly think we should put ourselves into the ministry because we have so many things to say, and we think we have lots of good ideas that everyone else needs to hear.

A few chapters later Paul also said that the overseer (the main leader of a Church) should be:

1Ti_3:6 CAB not a new convert [νεόφυτον^G3504], lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.

But we think the world needs us, and so comes all kinds of filthiness, transgression and condemnation upon the earth in all kinds of various manifestations, because we do not care about fearing God for our own recently reformed soul as this Scripture commands us.

And James says:

Jas_3:1 CAB My brothers, let not many become teachers, knowing that we shall receive greater judgment.

But we are so convinced that the world needs us and we are not even finished being saved yet! Why do we disrespect God by presuming our own worthiness? Why not rather assume that we are too far gone to be used and wait in complete brokenness, subjection and humiliation until perhaps God may exalt us one day to be used? Why are we so quick and stubborn to addictively approve ourselves? But we go about gleefully exalting ourselves while we have not even yet heard the first Word of commissioning from God! In fact, we have heard and read the command to not go and speak to the people, and yet we have disobeyed and promoted ourselves anyway!

Why do we despise God and his holiness so much that we would be willing to profane His holy name (and reputation) and His Divine Words for the sake of exalting ourselves in ministry so that we get a chance to speak our own words? We care not that we are presuming upon God as though He is allowing and even commanding us to talk when He has said no such thing, and we open our mouth in presumption and don’t even care that our own defiled and filthy words come out in the name of God. We hate on God so much, so addictively, because we cannot so much as close our mouth, and then we blame God for our atrocities by saying his spirit gave us the words of this hateful crime. But speaking things that are correct out of personal commission is still rebellion and a practice of evil.

It is high time we actually loved God instead of our own worthless words, which are profaning about as His Words.

It is time we repented of loving our own soul and expressing our own worthless heart, and actually began to love the real Jesus instead.

Conclusions About Confidence…

Where is the fear and trembling with all the talking?

Don’t Approve Yourself!

2Co_10:18 CAB For not he who commends [συνιστῶν] himself is approved [δόκιμος^G1384 (dokimos)], but he whom the Lord commends [συνίστησιν].

[Remember: 1Co_9/ 2Co_13?]

Compare TSK Cross References:

2Co_10:18

not: 2Co_10:12, 2Co_3:1, 2Co_5:12; Pro_21:2, Pro_27:2; Luk_16:15, Luk_18:10-14

approved: 2Co_6:4, 2Co_13:7; Act_2:22; Rom_14:18, Rom_16:10; 1Co_11:19; 2Ti_2:15

but: Mat_25:20-23; Joh_5:42-44, Joh_12:43; Rom_2:29; 1Co_4:5; 1Pe_1:7

Your surest damnation is to try and justify yourself with many words.

2/7/10

Don’t Play Games as a Hypocrite and Make Excuses to Talk

· Religious spirits always find ways to be self-exalting no matter how many times you command and exhort unto humility and self-denial.

· No matter what context you put it in, the flesh will always find any and every opportunity and method to exalt itself, even if that means talking about correct and good-sounding things.

· Talking about Biblical things is not a sanctified excuse to indulge in the filthy addiction of talking.

· If you are excited and eager to talk about natural things, you are also defiled when you are excited and eager to talk about spiritual things.

· The confidence that drives a person to speak about normal things is at least just as defiled when talking about spiritual things.

Remove Confidence from Your Heart and Your Mouth

We should cry in prayer: “Remove dirty and natural affirmations from my life, so that I am not driven and compulsed into hell by the constant transgressions of my mouth springing from my own confidence!”

Beware of:

· Age Confidence

· Affirmed, confident, extroverted personality motivation

· When it is consistently easy to wake up and go about life without a troubled soul…beware of this, because walking in the strength of fleshly confidence is a satan worship that will make Hell the only reasonable place to send such a person at judgment!

Self-Control

Lack of self-control is a sin. If you want to talk, beware and be careful.

We need to be more restrictive than what comes naturally by default.

The Sin of The Lips

Pro_12:13 CAB For the sin of his lips a sinner falls into snare, but a righteous man escapes from them...

Pro_12:13 MKJV The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips, but the just shall come out of trouble.

[see all of Pro_12:12-23 - as quoted later]

Don't Boast Yourself

Pro_27:1-2 CAB Boast not of tomorrow, for you do not know what the next day shall bring forth. 2 Let your neighbor, and not your own mouth, praise you; a stranger, and not your own lips.

Pro_27:1-2 KJV Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth. 2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Don't Be Rash

Pro_25:28 CAB As a city whose walls are broken down, and which is unfortified, so is a man who does anything without counsel.

KJV is very Different:

Pro_25:28 KJV He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Remember: Jesus before the woman taken in adultery

Warnings Against Conversation Competition

Other dates; 5/31/17

Remember: Be slow to speak quick to listen (Jam_1:19/ Sir_5:11)

>> See: additions (below)!!!

A thoughtful friend said to me once, “Have you ever noticed how when you have a conversation you will find yourself always changing the subject back to yourself?” – Be warned whenever you cannot let another person talk about themselves and what they relate to without bringing yourself back into the focus of the conversation. Beware if you find yourself switching the subject back to: Yourself, your experience, what you can relate to, and what you can talk about or what you have to say. Non-applicable, non-matching, incongruent, non-harmonious subject-changing control tactics are fleshly and self-serving. If you repeatedly take and retake control of the conversation then it is not Jesus you love, nor even the well being of the person in front of you, but the lustful indulgence of your own personal gratification (see Ecc_6:7; Php_3:18-19).

We usually think it is a good conversation when we get to talk about what we want to talk about, and this is often done with little consideration as to whether it was as fulfilling to the other person. This is a staggering problem of profound selfishness and lack of integrity for loving other people. If we love talking it is certain that we do not truly love people or God, and why would we think that our soul should be saved from a just wrath if it were found in this condition?

1Jn_4:20 CAB If anyone claims, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how is it possible for him to love God whom he has not seen?

>> add: we do not preach ourselves... !!!

>> Add: Important Point/summary for Conversation Competition

don't talk about what you can talk about, but ask a lot about what you need

5/31/17

>>Scrip:

the Pharisee stood and prayed about himself...

weather praying or talking to people, it seems like Hypocrites always like to talk about themselves.

Repent of Interrupting

The Bible plainly warns us against interrupting people, and directly commands us not to do it. If we still do interrupt and disobey the Bible, then we need to repent of foolishness and folly to be Christians that actually obey the Bible and go after honor and truth.

>> address: “conversation competition”

>> ex. youngest waited in Job & others to finish

9/1/17; 9/3/17; 1/10/18

>>Scrip:

Satan cut in on us

>>> TSK

Steal kill destroy

This is the nature of those who interrupt the truth. They are just like Satan.

Act_24:10 CAB But Paul answered, the governor had nodded for him to speak: "Knowing that you have been a judge of this nation for many years, the more cheerfully I defend the things concerning myself,

Act_24:10 ᾿Απεκρίθη δὲ ὁ Παῦλος, νεύσαντος αὐτῷ τοῦ ἡγεμόνος λέγειν· ἐκ πολλῶν ἐτῶν ὄντα σε κριτὴν τῷ ἔθνει τούτῳ ἐπιστάμενος εὐθυμότερον τὰ περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ ἀπολογοῦμαι,

Act_24:10 απεκριθη Aτε TSBδε ο παυλος νευσαντος αυτω του ηγεμονος λεγειν εκ πολλων ετων οντα σε κριτην τω εθνει τουτω επισταμενος Aευθυμως TSBευθυμοτερον τα περι εμαυτου απολογουμαι

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Interrupting

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You Are Commanded Not to speak until You First Actually Listen

Interrupting is an impatience that presumes that you do not need to fully listen to the “word” being spoken to you before you give an answer:

Pro_18:13 Jos.Trans

Any [one] who answers a word [λόγον (logon)] before he hears [ἀκοῦσαι (hakousai)], it is thoughtlessness [ἀφροσύνη – senselessness/ fig. recklessness] and reproach to him.

[Technical Source Text Note: I translated this from the Greek LXX, because that is what the NT quotes when quoting Proverbs; (for more see Bibliography under “Finding the Old Testament”).]

Considerations

· In saying “a word [λόγον (logon)]” it is clear that this is generic for whatever a person says, since it is comparable to many examples throughout the Bible such as the saying, “…but the word which they heard did not profit those, not having been mixed with faith in those having heard it.” (Heb_4:2 CAB); (also, for example, Pro_25:11; Pro_15:23 (MT); Isa_50:4)

· “answer[ing] a word [λόγον (logon)]” means responding with words to what someone has said.

· “before he hears” essentially communicates that the “word” had begun being presented, but the listener responded before this “word” was actually finished

Confirmed in Sirach

This is reiterated by Joshua (Jesus) the son of Sirach (some time before 175 B.C.) [Ἰησοῦς υἱὸς Σιραχ Ελεαζαρ] in very specific terms:

Sir_11:6-8 KJVA Many mighty men have been greatly disgraced; and the honourable delivered into other men's hands. 7 Blame not before thou hast examined the truth: understand first, and then rebuke. 8 Answer not before thou hast heard the cause: neither interrupt men in the midst of their talk.

Reaffirmed By the Qumran Community Rule

Again, for what it is worth, this is repeated in the Qumran Community Rule:

“No man shall interrupt a

companion before his speech has

ended, nor speak before a man of

higher rank; each man shall speak

in his turn. And in the Assembly

of the Congregation no man shall

speak without consent of the

Congregation.

Whoever has interrupted his

companion whilst speaking [must

do penance] ten days.”

Note: I still need to get the specific reference for this particular quote

· This principal is repeated in a briefer form at the beginning of the document numbered 4Q266

· This ethical code is confirmed by the New Covenant as seen later in 1Co_14

Even Lost People Knew This

In the Bible, even unsaved people knew it was true that you had to hear someone completely out before “answering” them:

Joh_7:50-51 CAB Nicodemus… said to them [Other Pharisees], 51 Does our law judge a man before it hears [ἀκούσῃ - same word as in Pro_18:13] from him first, and knows what he is doing?"

Note: this theology, which is typical of ancient (honorable) Judaism, is not only generally consistent with the Law of Moses, but it is specifically consistent with Proverbs, and it is even more consistent with the theology of Ben Sirach (as seen previously: “Blame not before thou hast examined the truth…” - Sir_11:7; etc.). Nicodemus is referring to a commonly recognized virtue that even the Pharisees knew about, which we often seem to know nothing about today in our cheap and shallow, dishonorable culture.

Act_25:16 CAB …'It is not a custom with Romans to deliver any man to destruction before [“πρὶν” same word as in Pro_18:13 LXX] the one being accused may meet his accusers face to face, and may receive an opportunity for defense* concerning the charge.'

[Hyperlink: Sir_11:6-8 KJVA ...understand first, and then rebuke. 8 Answer not before thou hast heard the cause: neither interrupt men in the midst of their talk.]

[* “ἀπολογίας” – lit. speak a word upon (same root word as in Pro_18:13 LXX)]

Also Compare Cases Like When they ‘motioned with their hand’

Lost people knew how to let other people speak as seen in the following examples:

Act_12:17; Act_13:16; Act_19:33; Act_21:40; and also Act_7:2 (Only slightly related: Luk_1:22; Joh_13:24)

There was an expectation (both with the lost as well as with early Christians) that the speaker had an exclusive right to speak in cases as when they ‘motioned with their hand’; Notice that interrupting only happened in these cases when their sin and impatience got the best of them; Every single time interrupting happened and they violated the speakers speech like this in the Bible it was always evil!:

Act_7:57 - Jews interrupted Steven, and then killed him

Act_19:33-34 - Pagans interrupted (Jewish) Alexander after temporarily pretending that they would listen

Act_22:22 - Jews interrupted Paul when he mentioned the salvation of the nations

We should take sober heed from these things and learn to be quiet when someone’s time to speak is ‘at hand.’

Interrupting is Called “Disorder”

1Co_14:9, 1Co_14:26-27, 1Co_14:29-33, 1Co_14:37-40 CAB So also you, if you do not give a clear word by the tongue, how will it be known what is being spoken? For you will be speaking into the air… [notice: one of the goals here is to intentionally prioritize communication and clarity when speaking] 1Co_14:26 What is it then, brothers? Whenever you come together, each of you has a song, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. [i.e. everyone has something spiritual and useful to say] Let all things be done for edification. 1Co_14:27 If anyone speaks in an unknown tongue, let it be by two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret… 1Co_14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let others discriminate. 1Co_14:30 But if something is revealed to another who sits by, let the first be silent. [i.e. no talking at the same time] 1Co_14:31 For you can all prophesy one by one, [i.e. one at a time] that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 1Co_14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, 1Co_14:34 let your women be silent in the churches… 1Co_14:37 If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or is spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I am writing to you are the commandments of the Lord. 1Co_14:38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant. [Greek grammar: Present, Active, Imperative Verb; Third Person, Singular – evidently meaning: You are commanded to ignore them] 1Co_14:39 Therefore, brothers, seek to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 1Co_14:40 Let all things be done properly and according to order.

Considerations

· These instructions on how to run an assembly are consistent with the “Community Rule” of the Qumran Community (as seen previously, which was written before the NT); The fact that the Bible correlates with the ideals of the Qumran Community in this case is not surprising, because this actually happens quite frequently with the New Testament and the Dead Sea Scrolls in general (not to mention parallels with zealous movements within Judaism as a whole)
>> link to DSS

· It also goes without saying that this is consistent with Sirach and Proverbs (as seen previously)

· We are only supposed to speak for other people’s best interest (i.e. “edification,” v. 1Co_14:26)

· ‘Orderly talk’ (v. 1Co_14:40) means that one person talks at a time (1Co_14:27, 1Co_14:29-31)

· We see that people are to take turns talking, not to all talk at the same time (even though they generally all have something good to bring to the assembly, as seen in v. 1Co_14:26, 1Co_14:31)

· Whenever it is needed for someone else to start talking, the first person is supposed to stop first so the other can talk without confusion (i.e. we might say: no rude and fleshly filibustering when we are trying to get spiritual things here)
>> link to filibustering

· We are to prophesy one by one practicing self control not to talk out of turn (v. 1Co_14:31-32)

· If this is how prophecy should be bridled, how much more should this apply to the other worthless and natural things that we usually go about speaking for our own gratification and self-expression? Do we act righteously when we feel more free to express ourselves in vain talk than Paul permits real Prophets to express the oracles of God?

· If we do not do as this Scripture commands us, then the Bible calls this “confusion” (v. 1Co_14:33)

· “all things” (v. 1Co_14:26, 1Co_14:40) to be done by “all” people (v. 1Co_14:31) among “all the assemblies” (v. 1Co_14:33-34) are to “be done” (v. 1Co_14:26, 1Co_14:40) this way, putting a premium priority on doing it “properly and according to order” (v. 1Co_14:40, 1Co_14:26-27, 1Co_14:29-34)

· Order is more important than legitimacy: We see that if women are forbidden to give Divine oracles (from God) in the assembly for the sake of propriety and order, we see certainly that God has placed a profoundly greater weight and priority on being proper and in order than even having legitimate Words from God spoken by women – God here shows us that it is more pleasing to Him to have men potentially speaking false prophecies (v. 1Co_14:29), than to have things out of order and have the shame of women speaking in assembly. (For more, please see the Bible study entitled “Women in Assembly”)
>> link to WiA

· The question is not whether or not we have something good or important to say, but the question is if we Love God enough to reverence and obey Him in the way He has ordered us to talk with each other

Act_21:40 CAB And… Paul stood on the stairs and motioned with his hand to the people. And when there was a great silence, he addressed them…

Note: if we also see that women are to be silent during teaching in general, then they could never interrupt

The Summarized Story of Nabal and David

This is a summary of the story in 1Sa_25:1-42

1Sa_25:1-3 CAB …And David arose, and went down to the Wilderness of Maon. 2 And there was a man in Maon, and his flocks were in Carmel, and he was a very great man; and he had three thousand sheep, and a thousand female goats. And he happened to be shearing his flock in Carmel. 3 And the man's name was Nabal… But the man was harsh, and evil in his doings, and the man was foolish.

[Note the three crimes listed]

1Sa_25:4-10 - David protects Nabal’s shepherds and flocks (also see 1Sa_25:14-16), kindly blesses him, and asks for whatever convenient help he could give

1Sa_25:9-10 CAB So the servants came and spoke these words to Nabal, according to all these words in the name of David. 10 And Nabal sprang up, and answered the servants of David, and said, Who is David? And who is the son of Jesse?...

1Sa_25:10-13 - Nabal proceeds to insult David and deny giving any help, and David determines to kill all the men of Nabal’s house hold because of this.

The servants went to Nabal’s wife Abigail and said…

1Sa_25:17 CAB And now consider what you will do; for mischief is determined against our lord [i.e. Nabal] and against his house; and he is a vile character, and one cannot speak to him.

But David listened when Abigail Spoke to him

1Sa_25:23-25 CAB And Abigail saw David, and she dismounted quickly from her donkey; and she fell before David on her face, and bowed down to him, bowing to the ground, 24 even to his feet, and said, On me, my lord, be my wrong. Let your servant speak in your ears, and hear the words of your servant. 25 Let not my lord take to heart this pestilent man, for according to his name, so is he — Nabal is his name, and folly is with him! But I, your maidservant, did not see the servants of my lord whom you sent.

Things to Note from the Story of Nabal

· Nabal exploited his exalted state to insult David (verses 1Sa_25:2, 1Sa_25:36, 1Sa_25:10-13)

· Their fear impending “Mischief” implies that bad will happen to them on account of something wrong that has been done against righteousness

· This impending evil, or “wrath,” pertains to Nabal’s “vile character” (sinful, perverted, habitual life style)

· One of the primary characteristics of this “vile character” is that “one cannot speak to him”

· We can almost cringe when we see a colorful description of ‘not being able to speak to him’ in the words, “And Nabal sprang up, and answered…” (verse 1Sa_25:9-10)

· So we see that an important part of being “harsh…evil…and…foolish” is described in this story as one who quickly, rashly and harshly answers people. The conclusion about such a wicked and perverted response is that, although a person may try to say words to someone like Nabal, when all is said and done “one cannot [truly] speak to him”

· Can people truly speak to you, or are you like Nabal?

But one may hear these things and rise up in their chair and protest and say, “but I am not like that when I interrupt people!” – But even if we find excuses to claim that we are not like the character of this story, even though we continue to interrupt people, the Bible has already convicted us as wicked sinners in the verses we already covered in the beginning of this section. But on the contrary: we must make it of our highest aim to be people who can be talked to, who actually hear people out before responding, unlike the un-listening, rashly responding Nabal of folly. If nothing else, we should find from this story some potent parallels that wise people who actually love Jesus will use to take heed so as to not be foolish and interrupt, lest they become like Nabal in the end.

We ought not to bear false testimony of ourselves to justify our crimes of

Filibustering is Sin Too

Other dates (~2010+); 10/25/16

Filibustering is when you go on talking so that no one else can ever get a word in. This is certainly a condemnable sin for many reasons covered in this Bible study, especially because it is based on the love to talk to begin with. If we repent of interrupting, we should also repent of loving to monolog, and rudely crowd others out of getting a chance to comment. Filibustering is a partner with interrupting, because both of these filthy and perverted indulgences despise and disrespect the other person, and hold their words in contempt so that the filibuster can have a monopoly on indulging in their own lust of talking.

As this entire study shows, you are to not like talking to begin with, and then beyond this, we already saw that you are actually supposed to willingly stop and let others speak, especially when God gives them things:

1Co_14:30 But if something is revealed to another who sits by, let the first be silent.

To further establish this we could almost simply reference this entire Bible study, but here are a few verses in particular:

Ecc_10:13-14 CAB The beginning of the words of his mouth is folly, and the end of his talk mischievous madness. 14 A fool moreover multiplies words…

Ecc_5:1 WEB Guard your steps when you go to God's house; for to draw near to listen is better than to give the sacrifice of fools, for they don't know that they do evil.

Ecc_5:1 LB Fear God. Keep Your Vows Keep your foot, whenever you go to the house of God; and when you are near to hear, let your sacrifice be better than the gift of fools; for they do not know they are doing evil.

Ecc_5:1 (4:17) Φύλαξον πόδα σου, ἐν ᾧ ἐὰν πορεύῃ εἰς οἶκον τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ ἐγγὺς τοῦ ἀκούειν· ὑπὲρ δόμα τῶν ἀφρόνων θυσία σου, ὅτι οὔκ εἰσιν εἰδότες τοῦ ποιῆσαι κακόν.

Ecc_5:2 WEB Don't be rash with your mouth, and don't let your heart be hasty to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven, and you on earth. Therefore let your words be few.

Ecc_5:2 Do not be hasty with your mouth, and do not let your heart be swift to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven above, and you are on earth; therefore let your words be few.

Ecc_5:2 (5:1) μὴ σπεῦδε ἐπὶ στόματί σου, καὶ καρδία σου μὴ ταχυνάτω τοῦ ἐξενέγκαι λόγον πρὸ προσώπου τοῦ θεοῦ· ὅτι ὁ θεὸς ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, καὶ σὺ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, ἐπὶ τούτῳ ἔστωσαν οἱ λόγοι σου ὀλίγοι.

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Ecc_5:6 CAB Don't allow your mouth to lead you into sin. Don't protest before the messenger that this was a mistake. Why should God be angry at your voice, and destroy the work of your hands?

Ecc_5:6 WEB Do not allow your mouth to lead your flesh to sin; and say not in the presence of God, It was an error; lest God be angry at your voice, and destroy the works of your hands.

Ecc_5:6 (5:5) μὴ δῷς τὸ στόμα σου τοῦ ἐξαμαρτῆσαι τὴν σάρκα σου καὶ μὴ εἴπῃς πρὸ προσώπου τοῦ θεοῦ ὅτι Ἄγνοιά ἐστιν, ἵνα μὴ ὀργισθῇ ὁ θεὸς ἐπὶ φωνῇ σου καὶ διαφθείρῃ τὰ ποιήματα χειρῶν σου.

Ecc_5:7 For in the multitude of dreams there are vanities, as well as in many words: but you must fear God.

Ecc_5:7 For in a multitude of dreams and in many words there is vanity; rather fear God.

Ecc_5:7 (5:6) ὅτι ἐν πλήθει ἐνυπνίων καὶ ματαιότητες καὶ λόγοι πολλοί· ὅτι σὺν τὸν θεὸν φοβοῦ.

Compare: Embrace Dialogue

Please also consider that God prizes dialog as we briefly cover in the companion Bible study, “Embrace Dialogue.” Unreasoning perverts do not care about dialog but are simply content to monolog without ever caring what the victim thinks about their own wickedness. People who practice this are clearly not Christians according to these solid Scriptures. This pervert will talk to no end and never love truth and wisdom enough to investigate the other person to see where they are at before foolishly proceeding with their speech.

Repent of Being Self-Appointed Kings

So often in our culture, we sit as self-exalted Kings with remote controls as our scepters: Not only do we flip channels at our own rule and whim, but also we interrupt people who are right before us as soon as our impatience and lust of fast entertainment condemns their slow paced words. With our self-appointed majesty and sovereignty over everyone we listen to, we think we have the right to mute their unhurried words into being unheard.

If this is us, we need to hear some painful sarcasm from Paul and be rebuked:

1Co_4:8-13 WEB You are already filled. You have already become rich. You have come to reign without us. Yes, and I wish that you did reign, that we also might reign with you. 9 For, I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last of all, like men sentenced to death. For we are made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and men. 10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ. We are weak, but you are strong. You have honor, but we have dishonor. 11 Even to this present hour we hunger, thirst, are naked, are beaten, and have no certain dwelling place. 12 We toil, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless. Being persecuted, we endure. 13 Being defamed, we entreat [παρακαλουμεν – i.e. fig. we softly speak to those who are defaming us]. We are made as the filth of the world… wiped off by all, even until now.

Asserting your own primacy to interrupt another is not being “last of all, like men sentenced to death” it is like ‘reigning as kings’ over others.

“Entreating” is a soft position, not a hard one that interrupts. Look at the speaking posture of the Apostles: They were the greatest among us, yet there are no rights to interrupt others in these humiliated and self-abasing words, but we see a holy and kind rebuke to those who have indulged and tried to reign in this life, as though the Kingdom of Jesus would allow us to be self-exalted over other people, and be accepted in His Kingdom at the same time. We really reign in spirit (1Co_4:8 b) in Jesus’ Kingdom when we are humble and abased like Paul.

Motioned with his hand

Paul steven and Peter spoke along the lines of "motioning with their hand"

the only time that this was violated is when wicked, sinful, murderous people lost their patience and violated their own rules and honor and were no longer willing to hear.

Will we come clean of such wicked sin and repent of interrupting, or will we be content to share the hearts of wicked unrepentant stubborn fools who sinned against the righteous by interrupting them breaking their honor.

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Notice wether it is Paul speaking to a large group or Peter speaking to a small group at a prayer meeting, when they were ready to speak they motioned with their hand and the others were expected to keep silent and listen.

Hold Your Peace!

How many times did Jesus and others ‘Hold His Peace’?

Do not blame God when you disobey the Bible. In this very context women are commanded to be silent.

A Summary Against Interrupting

Whether it is one on one, (as with Proverbs, Sirach, or even Nabal against David’s messengers) or it is in an assembly (as with 1Co_14, Nicodemus and the Pharisees, Roman Law, and people who motioned with their hand) it is a common virtue throughout the entire Bible and even Biblical culture (as with the Qumran Community Rule) to not interrupt. Whether it is in Steven’s martyrdom, the pagan persecution against Alexander, or the Jewish persecution against Paul, interrupting is always described as a sin done by the overflow of extremely wicked people in the Bible.

Interrupting, quickly answering, and speaking before actually hearing has always been a characteristic of perverted fools and shallow and shameful societies that hate God. Whenever culture degrades to immodesty and impiety to the greatest degrees, interrupting will abound. But if any culture pursues more honorable things, even the lost among them will acknowledge that interrupting is a dishonorable, cheap and wicked shame to practice. We can not only see this being explicitly taught in the Scriptures, but even accepted by the lost pagans of a more honorable day, which is all but gone in the fading honor of a forgotten time of the past, now having been overshadowed by the indulgence of modernity, and the pride and boasting of shamefulness in our age, and love of our own foolish and dirty words, even to the dishonoring of other people through the impulsive and reckless practice of interrupting.

Now having been shocked by a forgotten truth which was once a common standard, will we repent of our inferior “new” culture and obey the Bible to actually value words enough to let each speak, one person at a time, or will we dishonor each other with the continual self-exaltation and competition of interrupting with our own transgressing words of vanity, disorder and irrational confusion? Let us tremble at the commandment and do it zealously lest we receive the eternal wages of those who sin by loving to speak.

Terms for Cooperative Communication

11/11/17-11/12/17

When a hand is raised, no one else speaks. (i.e. according to the clean cannon of Paul)

No interrupting (unless an authority silences a heretic/sin)

Dismissal from Cooperative Communication

A Luxurious person (sinner/pervert/heretic) is dismissed from Cooperative Communication

Not thinking (not being a very thoughtful person)

Words without knowledge

Not listening to the words someone is speaking

Answering a matter before hearing it

No Cut Throat Trump Style interrupting and demanding quick responses

Hypocrisy (playing games)

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Are you eager and determined to hear the missing puzzle pieces for your life?

If I had everything you needed in life, would you be absolutely determined to get that?

Will you stop moving fast and will you stop talking fast long enough to hear the truth about your life?

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No assuming non inspiration

Cheating

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Logical fallacies?

Straw man arguments

Begging the question (Aggressively/mindlessly)

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Being unspiritual, soul-ish, unwise, ignorant, foolish, fleshly - and yet talking many words!

Unthoughtful

Inconsiderate, unperceptive, rash and quick, confident, shallow contentment / content to remain shallow

Manipulative

Talking many words, yet...

Disorderly

Interrupting

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Flash needs to prove that it is poor, not truth needs to prove that it is true

Flesh balls should not put the truth on the defense

Truth has no need to defend its claim until flash has proven that it is worthy to talk to.

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Playing games, and then cheating on top of that!

When To Interrupt

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Comp.: Hearing Comprehension

To Obey is Greater Than Being Allowed to Speak

We do not typically interrupt unless it is for things like disciplinarian purposes

Example:

If I say that something is complicated and we are not going to go over it right now, and someone proceeds to go over complicated aspects that can wait, then it is more important to enforce obedience to what was said then it is to protect the sanctity of someone's value of not being interrupted.

A material breach of obedience is not protected by sanctions against interruptions.

It is a moral issue and virtue requirement to have hearing comprehension and obey charges given by authority.

A Mouth That Will Not Receive Ministry

Other dates; 1/17/16

This is a Bible study that speaks to our ritch indulgent self-confident culture:

if a man will be saved from sin it is required that he be found humble and broken, vulnerable and reverent to all the dictates of truth to which he must choose to be attracted, captivated, overwhelmed and amazed by. It is not proper that a woman act like a man, nor is it right for those who are in the process of being saved to lead themselves out and circumvent their life guard. Life gurds are taught that if a drowning person panics and dominates their situation that you often have to let them drown before you can save them let you both be pulled under by the compulsion and lack of souness and self control in the victem.

We ought to instead be wise, humble and reverent, because the Kingdom is not for the rash, the foolish, the self confident, the unsubmitted, the fearful, but for the humble and submitted.Only pour people Get into God's kingdom.

But the indulgent, independant (i.e. Unsubmitted) the confident, the sufficient, those who are affirmed in their abilities, those who are confident because of their knoledge, those who have not demoted themselve because of their own faults, those who are not eager to recieve help in truth those who are quick and impulsive without restraining themselves to hear trujth, those who speak more than they hear, those who dominate their own perdicament

All of these do not amke it in the end. Why is it that Jesus commands us to be like children and we never take Him seriously? Why is it we always find ourselves confident and dominating like the eldest when Jesus said we needed to be as the younges. Why do we always act like those who rule among the nations when Jesus said we had to be the opposite?

A fool bites the hand that feeds him, but one who hs been reasonably trained by God even honors the lowly vessle he is fed with from God's hand.

It is not fitting and becoming of one who is in need to inerupt the surgen who works on him. It is not sane and sound for a drounding person to panic and hurt and pull under the life gaurd who comes to pull him out.It is not right for wiksdom and truth to be set asside for convenience. It is not reasonable for beggers to be choosers. It is not right for those in need to dictate how their needs must be met.

Humility will save everyone who honors her because she pring 100 % of those who Love and endure with her to Jesus and Hos kingdom.

Being vulnerable to truth we will have no danger at all concerning the wolves. Having trusted God first, we will naturally trust His ambasitors. Having reverently listened to God, it is absolutly certain that we will also listen to His ambasitors in the same way, because we must find Jesus' Words true:

He who recieves you recieves me

Truth is not found by a fool who leads himself, but by one who has become embarased over his own leadings and repents to actually follow Jesus in truth, with out the hypocracy of despising the weak flesh wrappe around the

instrament chosen to guide him.

I can prove how Truly reverent a person is toward God in their prayer closet by how they treat God in public when He is represented in "the least of these" His brothers.

A person's loyalty to Jesus' authority is not as much tested when they are praying by themselves as when they are responding to His representatives on earth. E really know that Jesus is Lord over a person's life when they honor and reverence His mesengers.

If we are 100% given to God then we must prove it by being ealous to honor His truth 100% of the time.

Seeing the weakness in the flesh in others is an easy cheapshot to take against God. We ought not to be found taking it if we will live.

Exclusivity of Words

Other dates (mostly 2010-2011, as seen above); 11/17/17

Only Divine Words

1Pe_4:11 CAB If anyone [τις] speaks, let him speak [let it be] as ·the utterances of God [λόγια Θεοῦ – God’s words]. If anyone serves [διακονεῖ], let him serve [let it be] as ·from [ἐξ] strength, as [TSAἧς |Bως|] [the (ὁ)] God supplies [χορηγεῖ], so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom is the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen.

1Pe_4:11 εἴ τις λαλεῖ, ὡς λόγια Θεοῦ· εἴ τις διακονεῖ, ὡς ἐξ ἰσχύος TSAἧς |Bως| χορηγεῖ ὁ Θεός· ἵνα ἐν πᾶσι δοξάζηται ὁ Θεὸς διὰ ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ᾧ ἐστιν ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων· ἀμήν.

>> seeks his own glory

Eph_4:28 CAB Let him who stole steal no longer [μηκέτι], but rather let him labor [κοπιάτω], working [ἐργαζόμενος] that which is good with ·his [ταῖς – the] hands, in order that he may have something to share with him who has need.

Eph_4:28 ὁ κλέπτων μηκέτι κλεπτέτω, μᾶλλον δὲ κοπιάτω ἐργαζόμενος τὸ ἀγαθόν ταῖς χερσὶν, ἵνα ἔχῃ μεταδιδόναι τῷ χρείαν ἔχοντι.

Eph_4:28 ο κλεπτων μηκετι κλεπτετω μαλλον δε κοπιατω εργαζομενος Aταις Aιδιαις Aχερσιν το αγαθον TSBταις TSBχερσιν ινα εχη μεταδιδοναι τω χρειαν εχοντι

Eph_4:29 Let no corrupt word proceed from your mouth, but only [εἴ] what is good for [πρὸς] edification, that it may give [δῷ] grace [χάριν – favor] to them that hear.

Eph_4:29 πᾶς λόγος σαπρὸς ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν μὴ ἐκπορευέσθω, |TSBαλλ| Aἀλλὰ εἴ τις ἀγαθὸς πρὸς οἰκοδομὴν τῆς χρείας, ἵνα δῷ χάριν τοῖς ἀκούουσι.

Eph_4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Eph_4:30 καὶ μὴ λυπεῖτε τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ ῞Αγιον τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἐν ᾧ ἐσφραγίσθητε εἰς ἡμέραν ἀπολυτρώσεως.

Eph_4:31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and blasphemy be removed [ἀρθήτω] from you, with all malice [κακίᾳ].

Eph_4:31 πᾶσα πικρία καὶ θυμὸς καὶ ὀργὴ καὶ κραυγὴ καὶ βλασφημία ἀρθήτω ἀφ᾿ ὑμῶν σὺν πάσῃ κακίᾳ·

Eph_4:32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted [εὔσπλαγχνοι], forgiving one another, just as also God in Christ forgave us.

Eph_4:32 γίνεσθε δὲ εἰς ἀλλήλους χρηστοί, εὔσπλαγχνοι, χαριζόμενοι ἑαυτοῖς, καθὼς καὶ ὁ Θεὸς ἐν Χριστῷ ἐχαρίσατο ὑμῖν.

Eph_4:32 γινεσθε Aδε TSBδε εις αλληλους χρηστοι ευσπλαγχνοι χαριζομενοι εαυτοις καθως και ο θεος εν χριστω εχαρισατο Bημιν TSAυμιν

>> Sync: ROW | WkEth

Joh_7:16 CAB Therefore Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.

Joh_7:16 ἀπεκρίθη οὖν αὐτοῖς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς καὶ εἶπεν· ἡ ἐμὴ διδαχὴ οὐκ ἔστιν ἐμὴ, ἀλλὰ τοῦ πέμψαντός με·

Joh_7:16 απεκριθη BAουν αυτοις Aο TSBο ιησους και ειπεν η εμη διδαχη ουκ εστιν εμη αλλα του πεμψαντος με

Joh_7:17 If anyone desires to do His will, he will know about the doctrine, whether it is from God, or whether I am speaking on My own authority [self].

Joh_7:17 ἐάν τις θέλῃ τὸ θέλημα αὐτοῦ ποιεῖν, γνώσεται περὶ τῆς διδαχῆ, πότερον ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐστιν ἢ ἐγὼ ἀπ᾿ ἐμαυτοῦ λαλῶ.

Joh_7:18 He who speaks from himself is seeking his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.

Joh_7:18 ὁ ἀφ᾿ ἑαυτοῦ λαλῶν τὴν δόξαν τὴν ἰδίαν ζητεῖ, ὁ δὲ ζητῶν τὴν δόξαν τοῦ πέμψαντος αὐτόν, οὗτος ἀληθής ἐστι, καὶ ἀδικία ἐν αὐτῷ οὐκ ἔστιν.

>> Sync: ROW | AbTr

This exclusivity also includes what Jesus does as well as what He says:

See John Summaries: John 5; John 7; John 14

It is interesting that whenever satan sends someone they are free to speak all they want and promote and glorify themselves without restraint, because satan is glorified in the selfish and prideful exaltation of the flesh. But whenever Jesus sends people they always have to live a crucified life of humiliation and subjection in their glorious faith. They are truly slaves of righteousness, because they are not free to go on opening their mouth at their own pleasure. They like what is right, not what is convenient. They like what is true, not what they have to say. They live according to what is obedient and true, not to what is indulgent and self-promoting. They keep their mouth closed until the right time, whereas pagans have no such restrictions:

Joh_7:6 CAB Then Jesus said to them, "My time has not yet come, but your time is always ready.

Paganism makes no distinctions of cleanliness for holiness sake, therefore, pagans can always talk. It takes a real Christian to actually keep quiet in observance of holiness.

Time to speak?

Fire in bones

Don’t Be A Presumptuous “Prophet”

Don’t assume you are hearing from God

Jer_23:25-40 CAB I have heard what the prophets say, what they prophesy in My name, saying falsely, I have seen a night vision. 26 How long shall these things be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies, when they prophesy the purposes of their own heart? 27 Who devise that men may forget My law by their dreams, which they have told everyone to his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My name in the worship of Baal. 28 The prophet who has a dream, let him tell his dream; and he in whom is My word spoken to him, let him tell My word truly. What is the chaff to the wheat? So are My words, says the Lord. 29 Behold, are not My words as fire? Says the Lord; and as an axe cutting the rock? 30 Behold, I am therefore against the prophets, says the Lord God, that steal My words everyone from his neighbor. 31 Behold, I am against the prophets that put forth prophecies of mere words, and slumber their sleep. 32 Therefore behold, I am against the prophets that prophesy false dreams, and have not told them truly, and have caused My people to err by their lies, and by their errors; yet I sent them not, and commanded them not. Therefore, they shall not profit this people at all. 33 And if this people, or the priest, or the prophet, should ask, What is the burden of the Lord? Then you shall say to them, You are the burden, and I will dash you down, says the Lord. 34 As for the prophet and the priests and the people, who shall say, The burden of the Lord, I will even take vengeance on that man, and on his house. 35 Thus shall you say everyone to his neighbor, and everyone to his brother, What has the Lord answered? And, what has the Lord said? 36 And the burden of the Lord you shall mention no more; for his own word shall be a man's burden. 37 But what, you say, has the Lord our God spoken? 38 Therefore thus says the Lord our God: Because you have spoken this word, The burden of the Lord, and I sent to you, saying, you shall not say, The burden of the Lord; 39 therefore behold, I will seize and dash you down and the city which I gave to you and your fathers. 40 And I will bring upon you an everlasting reproach, and everlasting disgrace, which shall not be forgotten.

Note 1: Corrections (such as cross-outs) are made by me, Josiahs Scott

Note 2: For more on Jeremiah, including a summary of this passage, see our Bible summaries:

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Bible_Summaries.html#Jeremiah

Jesus Only Does and Says what He Sees from The Father

Joh_14:10 – not His own Words

Joh_5:19-20 – only what He sees the Father do

Joh_5:30 – does nothing of myself

Joh_8:1-11 – Jesus says nothing and writes in the sand until He is commissioned to speak

>> compare: cheap shots!

Jud_1:16 – be warned of ‘puffed words’

Remember:

- ‘every idle word’

- stop up with judgment

Speaking Independently is Like Fornication

The devil’s tactic is to get you to think speak and operate independently from God. We do this when we speak our own words and don’t wait for God’s.

Speaking much is comparable to fornicating with many partners. You’re only supposed to be with one person for life, and spiritually, you’re only supposed to speak God’s Words, and those things beyond these boundaries are lawlessness.

Big Point

I have found that quite often the people that get tempted the most to speak independently and naturally are also the same people who minimize our ability to hear from God! Imagine that… Now why would that be?

We get used to speaking our own words and love operating this way, and we do this and then want to turn around and sabotage the Biblical teaching so that we say that we can’t even hear God’s Words in the first place!

Don’t cast scorn on our ability to obey the Bible and hear God’s voice simply because you are complacently comfortable with violating holiness with your own mouth and your own words.

Compare:

“Only Divine Words” and

“Jesus Only Does and Says what He Sees from The Father”

In the end, claiming that we cannot hear God’s Words in order to justify our complacent and natural, fleshly lifestyle is basically the same type of sin that Pentecostals usually use as a basis to tag God’s name on to their own words.

Although the Pentecostal sin is far worse, both of these attitudes attempt to make room for living a life where they get to do what their own heart wants to do, and speak the words that readily come from their own heart.

General Passage from James

James Chapter One

Jas_1:19-27 CAB So then, my beloved brothers, let every man be quick to hear, slow to speak*, slow to anger; [* Sir_5:11; See: Apocrypha_Defense.rtf – rough personal notes] 20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. 21 Therefore laying aside all filthiness and abundance of evil, in meekness receive the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But become doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 Because if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, this one is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observed himself and has gone away, and immediately forgot what sort of man he was. 25 But the one who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one shall be blessed in what he does. 26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceiving his heart, the religion of this man is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

James Chapter Three

Jas_3:1-15 CAB My brothers, let not many become teachers, knowing that we shall receive greater judgment. 2 For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a mature man, able also to bridle the whole body. 3 Consider that we put bits in horses' mouths that they may obey us, and we guide their whole body. 4 Consider also the ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the impulse of the pilot desires. 5 Even so the tongue is a small member and it boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. Thus the tongue is set among our members, as that which defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of both beasts and birds, of both reptiles and sea creatures, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unrestrainable evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are created according to the likeness of God. 10 Out of the same mouth come blessings and curses. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11 The spring does not pour forth from the same opening both the sweet and the bitter water, does it? 12 It is not possible, my brothers, for a fig tree to make olives, or a vine to make figs, is it? Thus no spring is able to produce both salt and sweet water. 13 Is there anyone wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his works are in meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter jealousy and strife in your heart, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.

(Also, don't swear: Jas_5:12)

The “Stop Speaking” Scriptures!

How do you know when you are speaking with the wrong Confidence?

Idle Words

Mat_12:36-37 WEB I tell you that every idle [αργον^G692] word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Quick to Hear, Slow to Speak

Jam_1:19 LITV …my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak… [A reference from Sir_5:11; See: Apocrypha_Defense.rtf]

Bridle Tongue

Jam_1:26 MKJV If anyone thinks to be religious among you, yet does not bridle his tongue, but deceives his own heart, this one's religion is vain.

Be Bridled When Around the Wicked

>> Add: they are blind guides, leave them alone

Psa_39:1-9 CAB ...I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue; I set a guard [KJV: “bridle”] on my mouth, while the sinner [KJV: “wicked”] stood in my presence. 2 I was dumb, and humbled myself, and kept silence from good words; and my grief was renewed. 3 My heart grew hot within me, and a fire would kindle in my meditation; I spoke with my tongue, 4 O Lord [that is, not around the sinner], make me to know my end, and the number of my days, what it is; that I may know what I lack. 5 Behold, You have made my days old; and my existence is as nothing before You; indeed, every man living is altogether vanity. Pause. 6 Surely man walks in a shadow; nay, he is disquieted in vain; he lays up treasures, and knows not for whom he shall gather them. 7 And now what is my expectation? Is it not the Lord? And my ground of hope is with You. Pause. 8 Deliver me from all my transgressions; You have made me a reproach to the foolish. 9 I was dumb, and opened not my mouth; for You are He that made me.

[also see the rest of this chapter about vanity: Psa_39:10-13]

Pro_26:4-5 CAB Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him. 5 Yet answer a fool according to his folly, lest he seem wise in his own conceit.

No “Striving” to Speak

2Ti_2:23-26 – Foolish people have got to be ready to endure and hear a meek voice without interrupting, if they are worthy to be talked to at all...

Tit_3:8-11 CAB Faithful is this word, and concerning these things I want you to strongly affirm, so that those who have believed in God may take thought to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men. 9 But avoid foolish [μωρὰς] disputes [ζητήσεις] and genealogies, and strifes [μάχας] and legal fights [νομικὰς]; for they are unprofitable [ἀνωφελεῖς] and futile [μάταιοι]. 10 Reject [παραιτοῦ] a divisive man [αἱρετικὸν] after the first and second admonition [νουθεσίαν], 11 knowing [εἰδὼς – perceiving] that such a person has been perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.

Pro_14:5-8 KJV A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. 6 A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. 7 Go from the presence of a foolish man [But See LXX!], when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. 8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.

Pro_14:6-8 CAB You shall seek wisdom with bad men, and shall not find it, but discretion is easily available with the prudent. 7 All things are adverse to a foolish man, but wise lips are the weapons of discretion. 8 The wisdom of the prudent will understand their ways, but the folly of fools leads astray.

For more on how and why ‘we must not talk to perverted fools,’ compare the Bible study entitled, “Embrace Dialogue” (an unfinished work).

Keep Tongue from Speaking Evil

Psa_34:12-13 CAB What man is there that desires life, loving to see good days? 13 Keep your tongue from evil, and your lips from speaking guile.

(Mostly like the MT; the Greek here is quoted almost exatly by 1Pe_3:10-11)

Psa_34:12-13 MKJV Who is the man that desires life, and loves days, that he may see good? 13 Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking guile.

The Multitude of Words Means Sin

This is a promise!

Pro_10:19-21 CAB By a multitude of words you shall not escape sin, but if you refrain your lips you will be prudent. 20 The tongue of the just is choice silver, but the heart of the ungodly shall fail. 21 The lips of the righteous know sublime truths, but the foolish die in want.

Pro_10:19-21 KJV In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise. 20 The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth. 21 The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

Guard Mouth, Guard Soul

Pro_13:3-5 CAB He that keeps his own mouth keeps his own life [τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ψυχήν: his own soul; Heb. means “soul” as well; see H5315], but he that is hasty with his lips shall bring terror upon himself. 4 Every slothful man desires, but the hands of the active are diligent. 5 A righteous man hates an unjust word, but an ungodly man is ashamed, and will have no confidence*.

Pro_13:3-5 KJV He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life [Heb. means “soul” as well; see H5315]: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction. 4 The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat. 5 A righteous man hateth lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame.

[* “no confidence” CAB - this is a reverse of the original case: Pro_27:12 (quoted previously)]

So in the end the result is:

Pro_14:26 CAB In the fear of the Lord is strong confidence...

Meditate Instead of Rashly Talking

Pro_15:28 CAB The hearts of the righteous meditate faithfulness, but the mouth of the ungodly answers evil things...

Pro_15:28 MKJV The heart of the righteous studies to answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things.

Silence Can Make a Fool Look Wise

Pro_17:27-28 CAB He that forbears to utter a hard word is discreet, and a patient man is wise. 28 Wisdom shall be imputed to a fool who asks after wisdom, and he who holds his peace shall seem to be sensible.

Pro_17:27-28 LITV He who restrains his words knows knowledge, and one cool of spirit is a man of understanding. 28 Even a fool who is silent is counted wise, he who shuts his lips is counted as discerning.

Keep Your Soul from Trouble

Pro_21:23 CAB He that keeps his mouth and his tongue keeps his soul from trouble.

(Much like MT)

Don’t Be Quick to Speak; Don’t be Recognized as a Fool

Ecc_5:2-3 CAB Be not hasty with your mouth, and let not your heart be swift to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven above, and you are on earth; therefore let your words be few. 3 For through the multitude of trial a dream comes; and a fool's voice is with a multitude of words.

Ecc_5:2-3 LITV Do not be hasty with your mouth, and do not let your heart hurry to bring forth a word before God. For God is in Heaven, and you are on earth; on account of this, let your words be few. 3 For the dream comes through the greatness of the task; and the voice of the fool is known by the many words.

Holiness Heals you from the Foolishness we are Plagued with

Isa_35:8 CAB There shall be there a pure way, and it shall be called a holy way; and there shall not pass by there any unclean person, neither shall there be there an unclean way; but the dispersed shall walk on it, and they shall not go astray.

Isa_35:8 KJV And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

Rash words that are Rebuked by God

peter took Jesus aside

there are six days to work

by words justified and by words condemned

Other Thoughts

Speaking much is not loving

Speaking much is foolish

Speaking much is prideful

Elihu

I think this is not in accord with the LXX:

“A fool has no delight in understanding, But only in revealing his own opinion,” (Pro_18:2 WEB) [or “uncovering his heart” (LITV)].

And again, “A fool utters all his mind…” (Pro_29:11 KJV).

In Job, it says of a young man named Elihu,

2 …the wrath of Elihu… was kindled… and… 6 Elihu… answered… “10 …I said, 'Listen to me; I also will show my opinion.'… 17 I also will answer my part, And I also will show my opinion. 18 For I am full of words. The spirit within me constrains me. (Job_32:1-18 WEB) Behold, my belly is as wine which hath no vent; it is ready to burst like new bottles. 20 I will speak, that I may be refreshed: I will open my lips and answer. (Job_32:19-20 KJV)

Many reading about Elihu have forgotten that it also says, “A fool also is full of words…” (Ecc_10:14 KJV).

Stopped Mouths:

The law was given “…that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God” [Rom_3:19 ASV].

For the overseer must be… able to exhort in the sound doctrine, and to convict those who contradict him. 10 For there are also many unruly men, vain talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 whose mouths must be stopped; men who overthrow whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for dishonest gain's sake, [Tit_1:7-11 WEB].

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How do We Hold our Tongue?

Pray

Psa_141:3 KJV Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.

“No man can tame it” so it has to be God who tames it if we are ever going to be saved!

Bridle (I call this, the “Be quiet” anointing)

Remember “Bridle” the tongue? (Jas_1:26 – as quoted previously)

Remember that “Multitude of Words” = sin? (Pro_10:19 – as quoted previously)

Repent of Written Words

2/8/13; other dates; 10/30/16

V: Are you Going to be Judged for Every Written Word, Like Every Spoken Word?

10/16/16; 10/30/16

Is the punishment different?

Is this writing: personal journal or directed/dictated to someone else?

Good question to ask when determining the severity of potential guilt or innocence.

Isa_10:1 WEB Woe to those who decree unrighteous decrees, and to the writers who write oppressive decrees;

Isa_10:1 CAB Woe to them that write wickedness; for when they write, they write wickedness,

Isa_10:1 οὐαὶ τοῖς γράφουσιν πονηρίαν· γράφοντες γὰρ πονηρίαν γράφουσιν

Isa_10:2 to deprive the needy from justice, and to rob the poor among my people of their rights, that widows may be their spoil, and that they may make the fatherless their prey!

Isa_10:2 perverting the cause of the poor, violently seizing the judgment of the needy ones of My people, that the widow may be a prey to them, and the orphan a spoil.

Isa_10:2 ἐκκλίνοντες κρίσιν πτωχῶν, ἁρπάζοντες κρίμα πενήτων τοῦ λαοῦ μου ὥστε εἶναι αὐτοῖς χήραν εἰς ἁρπαγὴν καὶ ὀρφανὸν εἰς προνομήν.

>> Sync: ROW | HPS > Indictments

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Think:

- Miranda emails

- H projects

do not live randomly, conveniently

live intentionally consistently

We do not need projects to get things done, we need commitment.

Woman busting through the crowd with a request

cheap words are like quic knowledge

you cannot learn any moral truth quickly, because, no servant is greater than his master

Jesus learn things by suffering, you cannot rightly aquire them by the Internet

The Internet can make information more quickly accessible to you, but can't help you at all in reaching integrity

Integrity must precede the acquisition of knowledge

the only way integrity follows after knowledge, is if that initiating knowledge brings you to repentance

1/14/13

>> Repent of Interrupting additions

1/7/13

Sir_5:12 If thou hast understanding, answer thy neighbour; if not, lay thy hand upon thy mouth.

Sir_5:12 εἰ ἔστιν σοι σύνεσις, ἀποκρίθητι τῷ πλησίον· εἰ δὲ μή, ἡ χείρ σου ἔστω ἐπὶ τῷ στόματί σου.

12/15/12

Add: Gal 6 - catechet vs spiritual person... not about being young, but being truly spiritual and fully instrcted (tomothy),

12/10/12

Wis_8:12 Brenton When I hold my tongue, they shall bide my leisure, and when I speak, they shall give good ear unto me: if I talk much, they shall lay their hands upon their mouth.

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Wise desire a listening ear!

12/9/12

‘let my tongue stick to roof of my mouth’

11/20/12

Wis_1:6 Brenton For wisdom is a [man-] loving [φιλάνθρωπον] spirit; and will not acquit [ἀθῳώσει] a blasphemer [βλάσφημον] of his words [χειλέων ?]: for God is witness [μάρτυς] of his reins [νεφρῶν ? – NETS: “inner feelings”], and a true beholder [ἐπίσκοπος] of his heart, and *a [the] hearer of his tongue [καὶ τῆς γλώσσης ἀκουστής].

>> might want to compare catholic, CPDV

Wis_1:6 Greek φιλάνθρωπον γὰρ πνεῦμα σοφία καὶ οὐκ ἀθῳώσει βλάσφημον ἀπὸ χειλέων αὐτοῦ· ὅτι τῶν νεφρῶν αὐτοῦ μάρτυς ὁ θεὸς καὶ τῆς καρδίας αὐτοῦ ἐπίσκοπος ἀληθὴς καὶ τῆς γλώσσης ἀκουστής.

Wis_1:6-11 Brenton For wisdom is a loving spirit; and will not acquit a blasphemer of his words: for God is witness of his reins, and a true beholder of his heart, and a hearer of his tongue. 7 For the Spirit of the Lord filleth the world: and that which containeth all things hath knowledge of the voice. 8 Therefore he that speaketh unrighteous things cannot be hid: neither shall vengeance, when it punisheth, pass by him. 9 For inquisition shall be made into the counsels of the ungodly: and the sound of his words shall come unto the Lord for the manifestation of his wicked deeds. 10 For the ear of jealousy heareth all things: and the noise of murmurings is not hid. 11 Therefore beware of murmuring, which is unprofitable; and refrain your tongue from backbiting: for there is no word so secret, that shall go for nought: and the mouth that belieth slayeth the soul.

Wis_1:16 Brenton But ungodly men with their works and words called it to them: for when they thought to have it their friend, they consumed to nought, and made a covenant with it, because they are worthy to take part with it.

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>>R!

Ecc_12:9-12 CAB And because the Preacher was wise above others, so it was that he taught men excellent knowledge, and the ear will trace out the parables. 10 The Preacher sought diligently to find out acceptable words, and a correct writing, even words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails firmly fastened, which have been given from one shepherd by agreement. 12 And moreover, my son, guard yourself by means of them; of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

- Scripture refined

I have repented from just typing out any and everything I feel and calling it "done."

God's Words are refined in the fire seven times over, and yet we think we can just go along and type whatever we want with no fear or judgement for our irreverence in communication!

Why I Write Slow

The Moral and practical reasons why I cannot answer many questions in writting

(1) There is a practical aspect of writing which limits me more than most people, which is the fact that by default I tend to work in slow gear. I am not a naturally fast thinker, and i am even slower when it comes to additing the p[rocess of writting to this!

While some people can think quickly and ephiciently transfer it to writing, I do not have that privilage by default. I hope you will be understanding if i cannot answer so many question in writing because of this.

The great irony is that I have run into this issue for all my life, and the best way to finally answer this for everyone who asks is it, well, write it all out! Do you realize how much it takes me just to explain why it takes so much to write things out?

(2) But much more important than my personal limitations, there is a moral picture that is constantly violated in the current world of writing

Good Words

How do you know when you are speaking the right Words?

Go over principals of exaltation

Love Right Words

Pro_8:6-8 CAB Listen to me, for I will speak solemn truths; and I will produce right sayings from my lips. 7 For my mouth shall meditate truth, and false lips are an abomination before me. 8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing in them wrong or perverse.

>> Need to check these against the Hebrew:

Pro_10:8 CAB  A wise man in heart will receive commandments, but he that is unguarded in his lips shall be overthrown in his perverseness.

Pro_16:13 CAB  Righteous lips are acceptable to a king, and he loves right words.

Pro_6:16-18 CAB  For he rejoices in all things which God hates, and he is ruined by reason of impurity of soul.  17  The eye of the haughty, an unjust tongue, hands shedding innocent blood,  18  a heart devising evil thoughts, and feet hastening to do evil, are hateful to God.

Pro_18:20-21 CAB A man fills his belly with the fruits of his mouth, and he shall be satisfied with the fruits of his lips. 21 Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and they that rule it shall eat the fruits thereof.

Pro_18:20-21 LITV A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; he shall be satisfied with the produce of his lips. 21 Death and life are in the hand of the tongue, and those who love it shall eat its fruit.

Good Testimonies from God!

Act_20:2 – Paul’s Warnings and Testimony

Add these:

- having many things to write

- ‘how many things’—in them many things which they twist to their own destruction

- Sent them the prophets, rising early

These Apostles and Prophets gave us the Scriptures because they first lost their own words

Jer_15:16-21 CAB Consume them, and Your word shall be to me for the joy and gladness of my heart. For Your name has been called upon me, O Lord Almighty. 17 I have not sat in the assembly of them as they mocked, but I feared because of Your power. I sat alone, for I was filled with bitterness. 18 Why do they that grieve me prevail against me? My wound is severe; when shall I be healed? It has indeed become to me as deceitful water that has no faithfulness. 19 Therefore thus says the Lord: If you will return, then will I restore you, and you shall stand before My face. And if you will bring forth the precious from the worthless, you shall be as My mouth; and they shall return to you; but you shall not return to them. 20 And I will make you to this people as a strong bronze wall; and they shall fight against you, but they shall by no means prevail against you. 21 For I am with you, to save you, and to deliver you out of the hand of wicked men; and I will ransom you out of the hand of pestilent men.

Both Good and Bad Word Dynamics

KJV (MT)

CAB (LXX)

Pro_12:13-23 KJV The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble. 14 A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth: and the recompence of a man's hands shall be rendered unto him. 15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. 16 A fool's wrath is presently known: but a prudent man covereth shame. 17 He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit. 18 There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise is health. 19 The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment. 20 Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counsellors of peace is joy. 21 There shall no evil happen to the just: but the wicked shall be filled with mischief. 22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. 23 A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.

Pro_12:12-23 CAB The desires of the ungodly are evil, but the roots of the godly are firmly set. 13 For the sin of his lips a sinner falls into snare, but a righteous man escapes from them. (12:13A) He whose looks are gentle shall be pitied, but he that contends in the gates will afflict souls. 14 The soul of a man shall be filled with good from the fruits of his mouth, and the recompense of his lips shall be given to him. 15 The ways of fools are right in their own eyes, but a wise man heeds counsel. 16 A fool declares his wrath the same day, but a prudent man hides his own disgrace. 17 A righteous man declares the open truth, but an unjust witness is deceitful. 18 Some wound as they speak, like swords, but the tongues of the wise heal. 19 True lips establish testimony, but a hasty witness has an unjust tongue. 20 There is deceit in the heart of him that imagines evil, but they that love peace shall rejoice. 21 No injustice will please a just man, but the ungodly will be filled with mischief. 22 Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but he that deals faithfully is accepted by Him. 23 An understanding man is a throne of wisdom, but the heart of fools shall meet with curses.

Summaries Conclusions

We know we have the wrong confidence when we cannot stop speaking when we are supposed to.

If the same talking can make you sin when you are not supposed to be talking, it is not at all clean when you seem to be talking about good things.

The Test of a True Prophet

The true test of a prophet is not when a person can speak, but when they can finally shut their mouth:

When confronted by a false prophet, notice what Jeremiah did initially when he was contradicted:

Jer_28:11-12 CAB And Hananiah spoke in the presence of all the people, saying, Thus said the Lord: Thus will I break the yoke of the king of Babylon from the necks of all the nations. And Jeremiah went his way. 12 And the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, after Hananiah had broken the yokes off his neck…

It is about time in history where people stopped assuming that they should always have an answer and something (perverted) to say, and started being like the real prophets in the Bible who took pleasure in the cleanness of quietness. If there is never waiting in you “hearing god” then you are not “Hearing God”:

Joh_8:6 CAB But this they said, testing Him, that they might have an accusation against Him. But Jesus, stooping down, began to write on the ground with His finger, not taking notice.

Why is this so? We must repent and come to terms with a very basic principal about being a real prophet in Jesus kingdom:

1Co_14:32 CAB And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

If a person cannot shut their mouth, we can be absolutely sure that they are not a prophet since their ‘spirit is not subject to them.’ They may indeed be the prophets of Baal in their pagan lack of self-control, but all of the real prophets in Jesus’ kingdom are able to subject their own soul, take up their cross, and WAIT for whenever God would have them speak.

It is a great and glorious day in history when we can finally find a person on earth who is actually a real Christian, and has gotten a hold of true spiritual things, but every fool can open their mouth to defile others with their pagan spirituality!

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Ephesians Project

Eliminating Ungodly Humor, from those who will be godly enough to repent of it

8-17-2001, 6/30/08; 2/3/16 (recompiled); other dates; …1/23/17; 2/15/17 (recompiled again: ROW); 4/6/17

>> get Joking insp from older BBS’!

>> get main work from somewhere!!

>> Make Joking Compilation

Cursing

Lev_15:1-33 – See: where this is covered else ware

We are not allowed to joke around about the shame of sexuality because sexual shame comes from sin and the murder of the human race.

If you joke about shame, then you rejoice in the sin that created it, and you laugh in the face of God’s bitter anger and immeasurably deeply wounded parable.

Take sexuality and its holiness and its potential shame very seriously, because these threats of degradation and devaluing and shame are the sin and death of the entire human race for hating God -- you will perish if you rejoice in the death and shame of sexuality which God so bitterly afflicted and cursed on account of sin.

If you are not in a life posture of treating sexuality like God does, you will certainly perish and be destroyed and hated for worshiping sin.

Only after sexuality has been thoroughly sanctified and holyified can you rejoice in its blissful abundance.

Compare: Toit

Rich harlot cultures think they are soooo free and joke around, and be lose, and they think they have God’s favor though they hate the shadow of His most sensitive Love.

Scripture shows us how profoundly sin has tainted sexuality

We are not allowed to make jokes about this serious curse of sexual life -- the shame that is there is a damage of the original holiness of sexuality that God made in the garden. Especially if you intentionally mock this shame which God bitterly hates, you will also be bitterly hted and destroyed for shaming his holy parable by rejoicing in its destruction by sin.

Eph Project

By words judged

Laughing Laughter

Other date(s); 2/21/17 (recompiled)

Eph Project

>>God will put laughter in Sarah's mouth

>> where is this BBS???

Psa_52:6 WEB The righteous also will see it, and fear, and laugh at him, saying,

Psa_52:6 CAB And the righteous shall see and fear, and shall laugh at him, and say,

Psa_52:6 (51:8) καὶ ὄψονται δίκαιοι καὶ φοβηθήσονται καὶ ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν γελάσονται καὶ ἐροῦσιν

The Justice of Innocent Laughter

~1/26/17; 1/23/17

goal: only laugh at inocent & heart purifying clean, obedience-producing jokes / mockery

don't be a stanch Anabaptist and say "NO" to all fun and mockery laughter.

even if outsiders misjudge us when we are participating with Jesus as "a man of sorrows" (this is a great irony and paradox), yet inside we want an unfading and spiritual rejoicing

·Jusus was anointed with the oil of joy above his fellows

·rejoice in lord always... say it again

·Paul and silas

·joy unspeakable

BIG goal: be an extremist and out-do the pagans in having innocent fun.

·marriage instead of imorality (like the Jews)

·running and climbing trees instead of competition

additionally: God is the only happy God -- and one mark of potential truth is when someone is extremist and Bible obedient, and somehow more internally happy (that is, blessed) than everyone else.

Elijah: prophets of Bail

Jesus: a reed shaken by the wind?

No Fools Allowed For Heroes

No Laughing at Foolishness

1/2/17

> sarchasm

> how do the following boundaries compare w laughing at cats, birds, and even babies?

> childing... when is it right to reduce adults to children, when God generally demands that you acknowledge things like age and gray hairs?

> the "Hurb" character was actually evil in concept, and did "funny" sins

Big Boundary 1: You should laugh and mock foolishness & even foolish people in a way that helps other people avoid repeating their evil error. -- that is bearing good fruit.

Big Boundary 2: don't let your laughter of foolishness include making The "fool" a type of "hero". the innocent and clean goal is to laugh and mock evil so as to discourage yourself and others from believing fooly. Sin very quickly happens when you actually delight in the error and take pleasure in it and cherish foolishness for the empty callaries of entertainment rather than learning truth.

This same sin goes back even to the times when kings had royal/official "fools" and "jokers" dressed up as cloans to entertain the royal court.

>wiki/google

this come all the way till more modern times where you have movies like "dumb and dummer" with two evil fools as the heros of the movie. In Other examples, they might Make "cuter" fools the heros of certain movies, but all these foolishnesses are the folly you get to rejoice in when you laugh at your delightful heros for chearing you up with folly.

if you used to watch movies, you can probably think of other examples of "funny movies" were the hero made you laugh and enjoy his error.

now it is time to set a boundary and not look back.

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I used to live this way... i have greatly explored these moral boundaries looking for truth and answers.

i questioned much for many years and tested much in my heart knowing that almost no one else had an answer, especially one that they could articulate in a deep way to teach others, including myself.

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Eph Project + 1Co_13: (love don’t do shame) + Joking + Laughter +

Gen_9:20-27 – Ham did not consider sexuality important enough to keep sacred

Ham did not reverence shame enough to “not laugh at bathroom jokes”

EPH_4:1-2

EPH_4:17-19

Eph_4:29-30 - no outof mouth

Eph_5:3-6 - shame talk not meantioned

Eph_5:8-13 - find out... expose

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1Pe_3:15-16 WEB But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts; and always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason concerning the hope that is in you, with humility and fear: 16 having a good conscience; that, while you are spoken against as evildoers, they may be disappointed who revile your good manner of life in Christ.

1PE 3: 15 NIV ...in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, [16] keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

-Respect to People & GOD? >Don’t respect people more than GOD

-Clear conscience = gentleness and respect

-Isn’t JESUS Holy? set apart -not the same as other things

TIT_2:6 Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled. [7] In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness [8] and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us.

EPH_4:1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. [2] Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.

-Sets tone

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EPH_4:17 So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. [18] They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. [19] Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, with a continual lust for more.

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EPH_4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. [30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

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-Now in the same thought... :

EPH_5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. [4] Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. [5] For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. [6] Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient.

-Says don’t live like the heathen i.e. unsaved as seen here

-Hope your saved, but I know many who have been lost because of coarse joking

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EPH_5:8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light [9] (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) [10] and find out what pleases the Lord. [11] Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. [12] For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, [14] for it is light that makes everything visible.

--See Greek Def of words at bottom--

1PE_4:7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.

-Now is BIBLE against any joking/ Laughter?

-No:

GE 21:6 Sarah said, "God has brought me laughter, and everyone who hears about this will laugh with me." [7] And she added, "Who would have said to Abraham that Sarah would nurse children? Yet I have borne him a son in his old age."

-But notice who gives the laughter: “GOD”

Also:

PS 126:2 Our mouths were filled with laughter,

our tongues with songs of joy.

Then it was said among the nations,

"The LORD has done great things for them."

-Not carnal laughter, but a form of witnessing

“Legalism”?:

ECC_2:1 I thought in my heart, "Come now, I will test you with pleasure to find out what is good." But that also proved to be meaningless. [2] "Laughter," I said, "is foolish. And what does pleasure accomplish?" [3] I tried cheering myself with wine, and embracing folly--my mind still guiding me with wisdom. I wanted to see what was worthwhile for men to do under heaven during the few days of their lives.

-(Solomon had fallen away)

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Others just incase:

ECC_7:3 Sorrow is better than laughter,

because a sad face is good for the heart.

ECC_7:4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning,

but the heart of fools is in the house of pleasure.

ECC_7:5 It is better to heed a wise man's rebuke

than to listen to the song of fools.

ECC_7:6 Like the crackling of thorns under the pot,

so is the laughter of fools.

This too is meaningless.

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JER_51:39 But while they are aroused,

I will set out a feast for them

and make them drunk,

so that they shout with laughter--

then sleep forever and not awake,"

declares the LORD.___________________

JAS_4:9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. [10] Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

Greek Def of Key words:

(Verse 3)

impurity-167 akatharsia (ak-ath-ar-see'-ah); from 169; impurity (the quality), physically or morally: KJV-- uncleanness.

(Verse 4)

obscenity-151 aischrotes (ahee-skhrot'-ace);from 150; shamefulness, i.e. obscenity: KJV-- filthiness.

folish talk-3473 morologia (mo-rol-og-ee'-ah);from a compound of 3474 and 3004; silly talk, i.e. buffoonery:

KJV-- foolish talking.

corse joking-2160 eutrapelia (yoo-trap-el-ee'-ah);from a compound of 2095 and a derivative of the base of 5157 (meaning well-turned, i.e. ready at repartee, jocose); witticism, i.e. (in a vulgar sense) ribaldry:

KJV-- jesting.

Jokes Are Not Serious Enough to Change

9/26/04 (Typed in one sitting; original title: Jokes, with Absolute Truth; +Word: Created/Modified); 2/23/17 (recompiled; Retitled: Jokes Are Not Serious Enough to Change)

We cannot joke about the bad habits that we want to change, (weather in ourselves or in others).

To joke about a bad habit is to say that it is not serious enough to change.

That which we make light of we are effectively choosing to keep.

Joking about bad habits is the world’s strategy of indirect confrontation, and because it is not God’s way it does not generally work.

What we make light of, we are not taking seriously enough to get grid of.

It is a double-handed dealing. We wish for confrontation because of necessity but fear the price of excepting [accepting] responsibility for it. It is a dishonest way of doing, and pretending we didn’t do. We attacked and then pretend it was only a joke. By this we reveal faults without necessitating change. God is different. Every time He reveals faults, it always includes the reality and serious need for change.

We handle bad habits this way because (like so many times) we are acting out of our agitation instead of our God-given conviction. Our agitation compels us to vent the problem unto no solution, where as a conviction of God has the end of change. We know that venting produces no good thing and so the cover it up by calling it “a joke”. We give criticism without hope, but God’s standards always pave the way to freedom.

We often shoot ourselves in the foot in that we genuinely want things different, but unknowingly forfeit such change by taking on the wrong methodology.

In establishing these things we must not altogether outlaw sarcasm. Though it is usually used for bad, there are a number of God’s people who used it rightly, (such as Elijah and Paul).

Interestingly enough, we can make some contrast in that the effect of a Godly sort of sarcasm is not levity, but instead a profound sense of conviction. In this we see the difference between God’s uses of sarcasm and our abuses of joking: in that God never treats any amount of sin with lightness, even if these sins appear so small to us that they are deemed as “bad habits”.

Our joking later produces vain streams of gossip behind closed doors and this is not like God.

In this we must mourn for our levity, as it says,

Let your laughter be turned into morning

So that the scripture may be fulfilled in us that says,

You [God] have put laughter in my mouth

We have songs that ‘we are trading our sorrows,’ but it is high time that we trade in our levity for a better and God-given sort of laughter in return.

Cursing and Profanity

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

Cursing: 2007-2013 (See: Smoking, in Eating Fasting & Feasting); [Cursing and Profanity: Written around 2007-2009; Compiled 11/19/09] 2/10/17 (recompiled)

[* esp. incl. Confronting The Cursing Agenda of Antichrist -- But: Bless or Curse Enemies? -- re-compiled into SOM]

Ephesians Project

>> compare: SOM: Bless or Curse Enemies?

>> See: SOM: Swearing

These are my personal short-hand notes for now.

The REAL Evil Behind Cursing is…

Profaning the Atmosphere

·Willfully using “profanity” of the mouth to defile something sacred

Rejoicing in Evil

·Delighting in an evil falling on another person

Complaining

Profaning the atmosphere

As an expression of your emotion

You are so desparate to express your evil emotion, you are willing to profne something that is holy in order to express your evil heart

“Positive Cursings”

Sexual Behavior – cursing things in that context

Explicitives

man

When they are happy

Even when they are not angry

Wikipedia used to have a really helpful article on this, but then they de-educated it to be more useless.

“Profanity (also called bad language, swearing or cursing) is a subset of a language's lexicon that is considered by some to be strongly impolite or offensive.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity

Accessed 5/12/13

This is mindless and de-educating in the most religious degrees

Rom_3:10-18 CAB Just as it is written: "There is none righteous, no not one, 11 There is none who understands; there is none who seeks God. 12 All have turned aside; together they became unprofitable; there is not one doing kindness, there is not so much as one." 13 "Their throat is an opened grave; with their tongues they deceived"; " the poison of asps is under their lips"; 14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness. 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16 Ruin and misery are in their ways; 17 And the way of peace they did not know. 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes."

Jas_3:9-11 CAB With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are created according to the likeness of God. 10 Out of the same mouth come blessings and curses. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11 The spring does not pour forth from the same opening both the sweet and the bitter water, does it?

Confronting The Cursing Agenda of Antichrist

An Unheard of Day

We are in an unheard of day when people hate Truth and goodness so much that they are seeking along with the antichrist to introduce cursing as a norm into the church.

“Complaining” they say, "or speaking evil against someone is wrong, but if it is none of these then it is no different than other words."

Cursing that People are Claiming to be OK Today:

“Gratituitus cursing” or “Idiomatic, Emphatic”

- Gratifies and evil seed to curse

- Claims its just words, as though words are natural?!

- Acts like you are not going to give an account (Greek: a spoken account) for every idle word we speak in this life

- the “Idiom” remains sinfully potent, and that is why we still use it. If it did not defile, we would have no reason to use it

Truth Facts and Thoughts

·Cursing raises up in every culture

·All men are sinful, and in every culture they lust after defilement

·All cursing is meant to pollute the atmosphere

·There would be no strength or gratification in doing it if it did not defile

·Profanity aims to make a holy or even normal atmosphere profane

·Profanity is demonic: Demons take great pleasure in trash

·Like a polluted well... righteous who gives way before wicked

·When you are used to poop water you have a hard time seeing that there is anything defiling about poop

Sexual Profanity is Rather Obvious

Using Sexual defilement to profane is very telling and self-evident:

You despise the sanctity of sexuality when you use it's defilement to gratify yourself

"Religious" Profaning (Cursing) Banned

Jas_3:10 > Rom_3:14 (not "against" someone)

Obey Logos!

Fighting for the Saving Virtue of Biblical Logic, Rationality, Reasoning, Dialog, and Clean Communication with Divine Words

Exaggerations are not Logical

6/6/17

-- Under Construction --

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Dabar / Logos / Ratio/ration (tally)/rationality, Verbum

Rom_12:1 VULGATE obsecro itaque vos fratres per misericordiam Dei ut exhibeatis corpora vestra hostiam viventem sanctam Deo placentem rationabile obsequium vestrum

1Pe_2:2 as newborn babes, desire the [ἐπιποθήσατε] genuine [ἄδολον] milk [γάλα] of the word [λογικὸν], that by it you may grow,

1Pe_2:2 ὡς ἀρτιγέννητα βρέφη τὸ λογικὸν ἄδολον γάλα ἐπιποθήσατε, ἵνα ἐν αὐτῷ αὐξηθῆτε εἰς σωτηρίαν,

We see that logic is NOT dispassionate!

LOGIC is a Monotheistic Thing!

LOGOS > DABAR

DABAR occurs 1288 times in the MT / current Hebrew text

Confused Liberal Heretic that Points Out Some Things to Consider

http://answersanswers.com/God/Bible1-God.html

Targum Psudo-Jonathan -- Date Disputed…

And the Lord said to the angels who ministered before Him, who had been created in the second day of the creation of the world, Let us make man in Our image, in Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl which are in the atmosphere of heaven, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every reptile creeping upon the earth. And the Lord created man in His Likeness: [JERUSALEM. And the Word of the Lord created man in His likeness, in the likeness of the presence of the Lord He created him, the male and his yoke-fellow He created them.] In the image of the Lord He created him, with two hundred and forty and eight members, with three hundred and sixty and five nerves, and overlaid them with skin, and filled it with flesh and blood. Male and female in their bodies He created them.

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Listen!

Other date; 10/20/17; 7/28/18

>> recompile from LUX????????

>> ES search on “listen”

Deu_8:20 WEB As the nations that Yahweh makes to perish before you, so you shall perish; because you wouldn't listen to the voice of Yahweh your God.

Deu_8:20 LB As also the other nations which the Lord God destroys before your face, so shall you perish, because you would not heed the voice of the Lord your God.

Deu_8:20 καθὰ καὶ τὰ λοιπὰ ἔθνη, ὅσα κύριος ἀπολλύει πρὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, οὕτως ἀπολεῖσθε, ἀνθ᾿ ὧν οὐκ ἠκούσατε τῆς φωνῆς κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν.

Deu_11:28 WEB and the curse, if you shall not listen to the commandments of Yahweh your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which you have not known.

Deu_11:28 and a curse, if you do not hearken to the commands of the Lord our God, as many as I command you this day, and you wander from the way which I have commanded you, having gone to serve other gods, which you do not know.

Deu_11:28 καὶ τὰς κατάρας, ἐὰν μὴ ἀκούσητε τὰς ἐντολὰς κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν, ὅσας ἐγὼ ἐντέλλομαι ὑμῖν σήμερον, καὶ πλανηθῆτε ἀπὸ τῆς ὁδοῦ, ἧς ἐνετειλάμην ὑμῖν, πορευθέντες λατρεύειν θεοῖς ἑτέροις, οὓς οὐκ οἴδατε.

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The most important Truth is usually counter-intuitive, but it is never illogical.

Think and actually consider some sanity, at least for a moment: If Truth were intuitive then most people would be right about most things, but it goes without saying as an obvious and overtly observable scientific fact that most people are dead wrong about almost all the most important truths in life…

7/28/18 YouTube

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“Eastern” Heretic Claiming Logic is “Western”!

“It is hard to approach Orthodoxy with western eyes. We don't or such a high value on logic or systematic thinking like the western. And we shouldn't. The scripture is clear.”

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6/29/17

Yes, India (for example) is illogical yet Eastern (along with many other cultures) But yet, monotheists are Eastern and have always worshiped Logos…

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Biblical Reasoning

Num_14:6 WEB But Joshua the son of Nun, and Caleb the son of Jephunneh, of those that spied out the land, tore their clothes,

Num_14:6 LB Ἰησοῦς δὲ ὁ τοῦ Ναυη καὶ Χαλεβ ὁ τοῦ Ιεφοννη τῶν κατασκεψαμένων τὴν γῆν διέρρηξαν τὰ ἱμάτια αὐτῶν

Num_14:7 WEB and they spoke to all the congregation of the children of Israel, saying, The land, which we passed through to spy it out, is an exceeding good land.

Num_14:7 and spoke to all the congregation of the children of Israel, saying, “The land which we surveyed is indeed very good.

Num_14:7 καὶ εἶπαν πρὸς πᾶσαν συναγωγὴν υἱῶν Ισραηλ λέγοντες Ἡ γῆ, ἣν κατεσκεψάμεθα αὐτήν, ἀγαθή ἐστιν σφόδρα σφόδρα·

Num_14:8 WEB If Yahweh delight in us, then he will bring us into this land, and give it to us; a land which flows with milk and honey.

Num_14:8 If the Lord delights in us, He will bring us into this land, and give it to us; a land which flows with milk and honey.

Num_14:8 εἰ αἱρετίζει ἡμᾶς κύριος, εἰσάξει ἡμᾶς εἰς τὴν γῆν ταύτην καὶ δώσει αὐτὴν ἡμῖν, γῆ ἥτις ἐστὶν ῥέουσα γάλα καὶ μέλι.

Num_20:3 WEB The people strove with Moses, and spoke, saying, Would that we had died when our brothers died before Yahweh!

Num_20:3 LB And the people reviled Moses, saying, “If only we had died in the destruction of our brothers before the Lord!

Num_20:3 καὶ ἐλοιδορεῖτο ὁ λαὸς πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγοντες Ὄφελον ἀπεθάνομεν ἐν τῇ ἀπωλείᾳ τῶν ἀδελφῶν ἡμῶν ἔναντι κυρίου·

Num_20:4 WEB Why have you brought the assembly of Yahweh into this wilderness, that we should die there, we and our animals?

Num_20:4 And why have you brought up the congregation of the Lord into this wilderness, to kill us and our cattle?

Num_20:4 καὶ ἵνα τί ἀνηγάγετε τὴν συναγωγὴν κυρίου εἰς τὴν ἔρημον ταύτην ἀποκτεῖναι ἡμᾶς καὶ τὰ κτήνη ἡμῶν;

Num_20:5 WEB Why have you made us to come up out of Egypt, to bring us in to this evil place? it is no place of seed, or of figs, or of vines, or of pomegranates; neither is there any water to drink.

Num_20:5 And why is this? You have brought us up out of Egypt, that we should come into this evil place; a place where there is no sowing, neither figs, nor vines, nor pomegranates, neither is there water to drink.”

Num_20:5 καὶ ἵνα τί τοῦτο ἀνηγάγετε ἡμᾶς ἐξ Αἰγύπτου παραγενέσθαι εἰς τὸν τόπον τὸν πονηρὸν τοῦτον; τόπος, οὗ οὐ σπείρεται οὐδὲ συκαῖ οὐδὲ ἄμπελοι οὐδὲ ῥόαι οὐδὲ ὕδωρ ἐστὶν πιεῖν.

BBS: Logos Bible Study

tags: BBS: Logos BBS ; logic bible study

9/6/16; 9/9/16

Note: not to be confused with the "Logos Bible" translation or "logos software" or any other churchy use or abuse of the original Greek/Biblical term

Logical Falicies are prohibited by The Bible

9/6/16-9/7/16

Genesis 3 – Snake: Did God Really say you cannot eat from all the trees?

Satan thrives in the realm of...

>> Num_12:

1Ti_6:4 he is puffed up, understanding nothing, but is morbidly concerned with disputes and word battles, from which come envy, strife, slanders, evil suspicions,

1Ti_6:4 τετύφωται, μηδὲν ἐπιστάμενος, ἀλλὰ νοσῶν περὶ ζητήσεις καὶ λογομαχίας, ἐξ ὧν γίνεται φθόνος, ἔρις, βλασφημίαι, ὑπόνοιαι πονηραί,

Jas_3:13 CAB Is there anyone wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his good conduct that his works are in meekness of wisdom.

Jas_3:13 Τίς σοφὸς καὶ ἐπιστήμων ἐν ὑμῖν; δειξάτω ἐκ τῆς καλῆς ἀναστροφῆς τὰ ἔργα αὐτοῦ ἐν πρᾳότητι σοφίας.

How to Be Solid, & Not Wishy-Washy

4/21/16

Logic

3/22/14

>> also refer to this in the justice Bible study

logic

6/26/17

>>scripture:

num rebellions

flash balls like to change their position and then act like you did something wrong by not continuing to give them the same benefits.

WIKI: Axiums

"Tautologies excluded, nothing can be deduced if nothing is assumed."

"Modern development

A lesson learned by mathematics in the last 150 years is that it is useful to strip the meaning away from the mathematical assertions (axioms, postulates, propositions, theorems) and definitions. One must concede the need for primitive notions, or undefined terms or concepts, in any study. Such abstraction or formalization makes mathematical knowledge more general, capable of multiple different meanings, and therefore useful in multiple contexts. Alessandro Padoa, Mario Pieri, and Giuseppe Peano were pioneers in this movement."

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>> Gen_3:1 has God said…

>> Num_11: Moses said: I wish that all God’s people were prophets

Num_12:1 WEB Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married; for he had married a Cushite woman.

Num_12:1 LB Aaron and Miriam Jealous of Moses And Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses, because of the Ethiopian woman whom Moses took; for he had taken an Ethiopian woman.

Num_12:1 Καὶ ἐλάλησεν Μαριαμ καὶ Ααρων κατὰ Μωυσῆ ἕνεκεν τῆς γυναικὸς τῆς Αἰθιοπίσσης, ἣν ἔλαβεν Μωυσῆς, ὅτι γυναῖκα Αἰθιόπισσαν ἔλαβεν,

Num_12:2 WEB They said, "Has Yahweh indeed spoken only with Moses? Hasn't he spoken also with us?" And Yahweh heard it.

Num_12:2 And they said, “Has the Lord spoken to Moses only? Has He not also spoken to us?” And the Lord heard it.

Num_12:2 καὶ εἶπαν Μὴ Μωυσῇ μόνῳ λελάληκεν κύριος; οὐχὶ καὶ ἡμῖν ἐλάλησεν; καὶ ἤκουσεν κύριος.

Embrace Dialogue

2/27/08; 8/25/09; 8/31/09; 11/30/09; 4/14/10; 4/17/10; 4/27/10; 6/19/10; 1/24/11; 2/9/17 (recompiled)

Note: ~2008-2011: this point originally included Embrace Dialogue & Fighting Cheap Shots (as seen below)

Biblical Reasoning Means Dialog

Note 2: This unfinished work is a companion Bible study with the Bible studies entitled, “Absolute Truth” and “Repent of Words” (unfinished).

Note 3: This Bible study is e-Sword Compatible (which means that you can use this free software to very quickly look up all of the references)

They Reasoned

· In Greek, logos means “word.”

· In the following cases, “reasoned” comes from a compound that includes logos.

· In most of these references the word is, “διαλέγομαι” (dialegomai).

· The implication of this word is, “To speak back and forth or alternately, to converse with, reason, present intelligent discourse,” (Word Study).

Act_17:2 -

Act_17:17 -

Act_18:4 - in synagogue... persuaded

Compare: Jas_3:17 - wisdom is easily entreated

Act_18:19 -

Act_19:8 - 3 months... bold

Act_19:9 - leave church to have reason

Act_20:7 - Dialog in teaching/ preaching

Act_20:9 -

Act_24:12 -

Act_24:25 -

Unreasonable: Without Word, Negating Logos

The idea in the following references is a Greek negation (a) plus logos. This teaches that it is evil and bad if people negate talking through things because this is “unreasonable” (literally, without word).

Act_25:27 - Common decision-making

2Pe_2:12 - False brothers / prophets*

Jud_1:10 - False brothers / prophets*

* 2Pe_2:12 / Jud_1:10 – “brute beasts” (KJV) / “unreasoning natural animals” (CAB) = ἄλογα^G249 (áloga): without word

Compare:

2Th_3:2 - Delivered from (ατοπων^G824)

Reason is Not Always Available

Note: This particular part of the Bible study was originally designed for people who have forsaken everything to obey all of Jesus’ commands, and are potentially facing persecution from it.

You can't always access the rationale of a person, so there are times where you cannot enter into dialog because a person's rationale is not accessible.

You can see from passages in the next section:

Biblical reasoning starts where people are at with basic facts and standards that are agreed upon and then progresses into the matter at hand to bring out the true conclusion.

If someone is an atheist, their rationale is inaccessible, and it is impossible to enter into meaningful dialog. In these cases, don't play games with people who care nothing for truth but only want to play with other fools in meaningless and evil vain talk. Don’t play games with people that are committed ahead of time to do nothing but glory in spewing foolishness from their mouth.

In so many cases people don't want truth, but they simply want to take cheap shots...

Fighting Cheap Shots

Other dates (2008-2011 -- See: Embrace Dialogue); 2/9/17 (recompiled)

What to do when Dialog is not righteously Available

See: Judging the Church

>> Pop: JCH

5/20/16

sp man is judged by no man...

the way we withold ourselves from proving anything to a fool is because he does not own or judge us, nor are we permited to validate his insamity...

Prolonged Waiting, Opens Doors and Defeats Cheap Shots

Note: This particular part of the Bible study was originally designed for people who have forsaken everything to obey all of Jesus’ commands, and are potentially facing persecution from it.

If someone asks questions and is truly curious, open, and hungry for truth, they will ask and listen to pry answers out of you that they would happily and seriously consider, while showing you gentleness and acknowledging your integrity.

A “cheap shot situation” is when a person interrogates you and pretends that they are asking for an answer, but they deceptively present the questions in a way to not give you a chance to properly respond. Interruptions and “short-changing” chances to explain your answers are obvious giveaways of this.

Striking at various unrelated targets and using “straw man arguments” are obvious giveaways that people do not desire truth. When they direct attacks at your character instead of the reasonableness of what you believe and represent before you have even been permitted to state your stance or explanation, then you know they are playing games, and you ought to abstain from such dishonesty “so that they may feel ashamed” (see 2Th_3:14).

Many times we have to foresee, as Jesus did, that we are in a “mock trial” and be sure that we do not play along with the lie. We wait for open doors and use the occasion of their deception to speak the truth and expose their game at the same time. When there is perseverance on their behalf, and well-mannered persistence in questioning, then even a hard heart may deserve the rebuking answer that it is unwilling to accept.

So when do you speak? The principal is this: When you have to fight with them to speak, keep quiet. When you have to fight with them to keep quiet, then you may need to speak. Keep resolutely quiet, and wait to speak the Word of God with certainty and boldness in the height of the opportunity, and don’t let God’s message be defamed by associating it with their mock trial of deceptive questions.

In short, Proverbs says:

Pro_26:4 CAB Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him.

Jesus’ Silence! – A – Consider all of the Times Jesus Had To Be Silent in His life

Isa_53:7; Act_8:32-33; Mat_26:63, Mat_27:12-14; Mar_14:61, Mar_15:5; Luk_23:9; Joh_19:9; 1Pe_2:23

We may also include with this the fact that Jesus mostly did not teach or do much of anything public for the first 30 years of His life! Think about all of the synagogues He went to and all of the filth and non-sense He heard for 30 years, and all of that without being allowed to say a Word!

Compare: Luk_2:1-52 with Luk_3:23; Joh_2:11

Jesus’ Silence! – B – Jesus’ Example of how to Deal with Dishonest Questions

Mat_26:59-66

Mar_14:55-64

Luk_22:63-71

Joh_18:19-24

Joh_18:33-38

Wise Vocabulary

Note: This particular part of the Bible study was originally designed for people who have forsaken everything to obey all of Jesus’ commands, and are potentially facing persecution from it.

· Determine beforehand to always return the conversation to the Scriptures

· [“we know no one according to the flesh” (2Co_5:16)]

· What they think to do: If they can take the eternal mandates of God that are “established in the heavens forever” and make them rest upon a fragile human then they can annul the potency of the Word of God and release themselves from its demands.

· They will focus on “you” and presume their questions as if this is obviously the bases of your actions, rather than acknowledging your integrity for doing what you find in the Bible.

But on the Contrary…

· I'm committed to doing whatever the Bible says, even if I have to change.

· If someone can show me where the Bible says different, even now, I am willing to change.

Satan’s Questions of Interrogation

· "Are you saying we are all in sin?"

· The question itself is deceptive, and implies lies

· It pressures you to step out individually from under the Bible

· It suggests that you did this from yourself, but you did not volunteer for this, but you surrendered unto it.

· Being threatened by a truth they are not keeping, they despise the messenger and invent false and unreasonable motives for them to clear themselves from responsibility.

· So they ask, "Are you saying we are all in sin?"

· I'm saying the Bible is true. We ought to obey everything it says. Whenever we don't obey the Bible, it is sin.

Prioritizing Communication

~2009-2013 (See: Getting Synchronized); 2/20/17 (recompiled)…1/8/23

Agree & Make God Happy

12/31/22?-1/2/23

>>>> NEW

· Let's make God happy by being completely unashamed of the Truth ¹, which always results in us perfectly agreeing with each other...

· ‘His commandments are not burdensome’ ² and agreement is not hard -- it will not be hard for you like it is for the rest of the human race if you'll just believe me and do what I'm saying.

· We will easily correct each other, save each other, rejoice each other, agree with each other, all while embracing the Truth together...

· BTW if you want to make me happy, get up in cheerful optimistic faith, and believe that the saltiest ³, most fiery, hardcore disciples are the ones that agree with each other the most, all without bickering, disagreements, arguments, disunity, strife, fleshly confusion, subjective opinions, uninspired perspectives, and un-crucified folly...

(1) Unashamed of Truth: Rom_1:16-17; Php_1:20; Psa_3:3; Psa_34:5; Psa_138:2; 2Ti_1:12; 2Ti_2:1-2; Dan_3:16-18

(2) 1Jo_5:3 – commandments are not burdensome

(3) Mar_9:50 – salty peace with one another (repeated below)

Happy Communication Responsibility

~12/14/22-12/18/22

Be Optimistic in Communication

· Goal: Transfer information.

· Being optimistic does not mean we only talk about easy things, it just means we are positive in the process

· We can talk about challenges, but there's no need to be unhappy toward each other.

· Let's not finish the year in unhappiness but in optimism, hope, and faith...

· If changing our budget practices really is a right thing to do, then it inherently does not require/cause/insight us toward unhappiness with each other...

· Doing right things does not make you prone toward judging in the flesh *, …it does not make you less faithful, merciful, and logically empowered to effectively and patiently communicate...

· Being unhappy/negative/stressed doesn't contribute a single valuable thing to accomplishing our righteous goals.

· ‘A (wicked) servant can't be corrected with words’ (Pro_29:19), but righteous people can easily listen, learn, change, grow, and be redirected with such logic.

Believe Toward Each Other

· It is irrational, unscientific, without integrity, and resisting the worship of Logic to be unbelieving toward each other.

· You will not find a higher form of Truth so that you can sin with it and still be True.

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Joh_7:24 – don’t judge according to appearance

Joh_7:24 μη? κρι?νετε κατ᾿ ὄψιν, ἀλλα? τη?ν δικαι?αν κρι?σιν κρι?νατε.

2Co_10:7 Τα? T-APN κατα? προ?σωπον N-ASN βλε?πετε V-PAI-2P. …

Pro_29:19 WEB A servant can't be corrected by words. Though he understands, yet he will not respond.

Pro_29:19 A stubborn servant will not be reproved by words: for even if he understands, still he will not obey.

Pro_29:19 λόγοις οὐ παιδευθήσεται οἰκέτης σκληρός· ἐὰν γὰρ καὶ νοήσῃ, ἀλλ᾿ οὐχ ὑπακούσεται.

Keep Asking for Communication

Communication Is Everyone's Responsibility

…12/23/22

· A favorite stubborn irrational conviction of fast-paced Flesh Balls is, all-to-often, so typically, to feel very strongly about not needing to persevere in communication beyond their own intuition.

· Flesh balls do not believe they need to keep on going with communication when it is not intuitive for them.

· Each one who bears a burden in their heart is responsible to persevere and persist at initiating communication until their awareness and information is transferred to the other party.

· We need to be striving to communicate the pending burdens of our heart.

· If you keep your sentiments bottled up and don't persevere and don't repeatedly persist at initiating communication, then you don't have any prerogative to outsource your resulting frustration & responsibility on someone else who hasn't yet heard or really understood what has frustrated you.

· Logic does NOT allow you to “drop the bomb” on someone, and blast them with supposed facts of new knowledge, when your unhappiness erupts before meekly persisting in communication.

· Communicate first, then only be angry if you are zealous for God’s Logical Truth!

· We cannot succeed at communication if each party involved does not give persistent, patient, meek, humble, perseverance to keep talking about the same things until we all arrive at Perfect Unity, (as the Scriptures say).

· Outsourcing responsibility makes us unnecessarily frustrated with each other.

· Own your own responsibility.

· Don't become frustrated with others when you haven't done the prerequisites that are required of you.

· Don't make someone else indebted when you yourself haven't paid over your owed communication debt.

· Even if someone evil is in control, a righteous person can still persistently beg like a subjected widow. -- How much more, then, meekly subjected should we be with those who eagerly give all of their energy to doing what is most righteous, disciplined, and are subjected under the virtue of obeying all of the Bible?

· "What are the next steps toward this problem I still feel" -- The formula that solves virtually all knowledge issues among righteous people who Love the God of Logical communication.

· If you're frustrated, first make sure that you have meekly and humbly persevered to keep bringing things up until communication is successful.

>>> Do just about as much logic and warfare as you possibly can in prayer to have a prepared and clean Orthodox posture toward each other, and you can possibly carefully and meekly request some help earlier if you're floundering in the meantime in the process, and then after preparing and seeking any needed help, if you still have a burden on your heart, respond to your responsibility and keep communicating it with everyone else as much as its needed and helpful.

1/1/23; 1/8/23

The Point: Keep repeating your unresolved feelings, experiences, and/or knowledge for as long as you keep having them until all disciples understand and agree.

If we have a “mutuality” posture toward each other and we Keep Asking for Communication then we will win!

Al: Keep Communicating

12/18/22

AlSat 11:01pm(edited)

Ricochet about communication - I was praying some of the following in prayer this morning as a good confession and request towards God:

'If any man can tame the tongue then he'd be a perfect man' (James_3:2)

I want to humble myself before the righteous.

I want to interact with people well.

Giving an answer when called upon

Asking questions when in doubt

Speaking God's words when helped

Slow to speak when reactive

Not giving up (or shutting down) when discouraged

Persisting in petitions when in need

Directing/leading when forced/constrained

Proceeding in fear

Always protecting others

Always believing

Always hoping

Always remaining under & enduring

Proof for Talking Responsibility to Talk

…12/23/22-12/25/22 (presented w H visiting AAL)

>>> see: Make God Happy (above)

How do I know that this is each speaker’s responsibility?

Because we all need to strive for unity therefore it logically follows that we are each responsible to communicate the burdens of our hearts.

See: RAS > UNITY OF THE RIGHTEOUS

Communication Quirks

Mistakes/Quirks in Speaking

12/26/22-12/27/22; 1/2/23…1/8/23…1/13/23-1/15/23…1/22/23

>> ROW | LO>Assuming non-INSP

>> we can shun discouragement and know Truth for ourselves (not judging unrighteously or fearing it from others)

>> we can shun sin/hypocrisy/flesh

Intro: Welcome Truth, Instead of Making Critical Assumptions

· Mistakes happen, and we should not be criticizing them.

· We should be crediting righteousness to the pure, and the innocent, and the wise, just like the Bible does.

· We will be saved from fleshly/unlawful/foolish/illogical criticism, if we’ll beg for inspiration instead of assuming it’s not there (i.e. criticizing)

The Need for Quirky Integrity is Not Isolated to Only One Example

It would be unhealthy to think that this exhortation is about the one who wrote it, since the principles are still a concern for your safety even if I left and went away from this world.

Quirky Definitions

A Communication Quirk is…

· An accident when attempting to communicate

· A (potentially temporary) failure at expression

· An unsuccessful attempt at representing the contents of someone’s thoughts and heart

· A pragmatic “hiccup” or “stutter” from one’s intention

· A morally similar experience and phenomena to stumbling when attempting to walk, and falling when weakness overtakes us

· A weakness of the human condition

· A periotic event that we are all subject to, by default

· A humbling event that we can all expect to experience repeatedly, sooner or later
(this is not a prediction, but a description of likelihood)

· A sobering reality that reminds us to humbly Love others enough to sympathetically help redeem them from the brokenness of this life

· A trouble of this life that real heroes reverse

A Communication Quirk is NOT…

· What someone was really trying to say

· Worth judging, criticizing, reacting to, or characterizing someone by

· A crime, sin, fault, or moral failure (by nature)

· A measurement of someone’s value or virtue

· Something to boast against

When God is ready to boast in someone’s inspiration, make sure you are not found boasting against their quirks, lest God also boast against you at their exaltation and your destruction (failure to Love and know Truth).

Quirks vs. Sin

· Quirks are not inherently Sinful.

· Sin can cause and overlap with Quirks, but it doesn’t have to.

· When Quirks are not Sin, then you can (& should/must) distinguish the two of them (as much as you have opportunity to do so).

· Un-sinful Quirks are a departure from intention that does not defile the conscious.
If someone is defiled when beholding a non-sinful quirk, who has sinned?
The One beholding is generally always at fault for defilement against the innocent.

· If you can keep doing goodness, Truth, real Love without missing a beat (or if you just need to pause to readjust mentally) then you know the quirk was not measurably sinful for all socially functional intents and purposes.

· If you are hard hearted (bitter, unloving, untrue, unclean) then sin was included somewhere in the quirk.

re-Define Your Character into Being a Hero

· Getting your “Quirky” definitions straight can help you not be a moral failure when reacting to other people’s troubles.

· Rather, we need to correct, change, and reverse our heritage of satanic accusations into the salvation of becoming real heroes who rescue hurt people from the troubles of this life.
(Am I exaggerating our satanic heritage or is this rather and understatement?)

· Even more so besides: many heroes in the Bible had Communication Quirks and God’s council did not criticize them at all.

· Although a quirk is not a hidden inspiration (by nature, inherently, automatically), yet inspiration can (and sometimes does) hide in quirks.

· Because of this, we also should reverently fear lest we blaspheme even heroes as being uninspired due to their quirks, when God is so in Love with them that He even writes their quirks and boasts in their inspiration in His Bible (when boasting against those critics…)

· Critics will die in their sins and perish in His rejection and wrath when ignorantly sinning against those He has subjected to weakness.

· God will redeem, reward, praise, exalt, and promote those who have believed in inspiration and those who have “loosed every yoke” (Isa 58 & 61, etc.) and rescued others from the troubles of this life.

Assuming Non-Inspiration -- General Reminders

· Abraham’s Wandering

· Etc.

In a lot of ways we are going through this example topic as an opportunity to address and remove the stain of indulgent assumptions away from us.

The opposite of Assuming Non-Inspiration is NOT Assuming Inspiration, but it is rather to STOP Assuming!

When you start begging, thirsting for, and welcoming inspiration instead of assuming it is not there, then you can actually cause it into being.

Assuming Non-Inspiration happens when you are not desperately prioritizing the Word of God, and causing inspiration happens when you cannot live without it!

Example: it’s much like, 'idleness is the devil's workshop...' when you’re Assuming Non-Inspiration

If you were preoccupied in being inspired, and inclined and welcoming toward it, then you would have no room in your soul to assume that it is not there in others.

Jud_1:21 LSV  keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting for [προσδεχόμενοι] the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ [resulting] in continuous life;

Jud_1:21 ἑαυτοὺς ἐν ἀγάπῃ Θεοῦ τηρήσατε, προσδεχόμενοι τὸ ἔλεος τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ, εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον.

√ -- GNT-V

TSK+: looking: Job_14:14; Lam_3:25-26; Mat_24:42-51; Luk_12:36-40; 2Ti_4:8 [ἠγαπηκόσι τὴν ἐπιφάνειαν αὐτοῦ]; Tit_2:13-14 [προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν]; Heb_9:28 [ὀφθήσεται (LEX: ὀπτάνομαι ^G3700, but others say LEX: ὁράω ^G3708} τοῖς αὐτὸν ἀπεκδεχομένοις εἰς σωτηρίαν]; 2Pe_3:12 [προσδοκῶντας ^G4328 (i.e. expectantly watch/wait) καὶ σπεύδοντας τὴν παρουσίαν τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμέρας]

WS on G4328: …to look for. Expect, wait or look for (Mat_11:3; Mat_24:50; Luk_1:21; Luk_3:15; Luk_7:19-20; Luk_8:40; Luk_12:46; Act_10:24; Act_28:6; 2Pe_3:12-14; Sept.: Psa_119:166). In the sense of hope (Act_27:33); with the inf. (Act_3:5).

Whenever you're in the posture of receiving inspiration for yourself, you are so far from assuming it's not elsewhere, that you instead automatically encourage it in others and even cause it to be in others as well.

>>>

Jer_23:29 – Jeremiah my Word like Fire

Joh_4:1 – Woman at the well

Gen_28:16 – God was here and I didn’t know it

Joh_2:1-12 – Wedding at Cana

Your faith has healed you: Mar_5:34; Mar_10:52; Luk_7:50

…

@Al: 1/22/23, Sun 3:44pm

Homework- "Causing people to be inspired"

Running list examples:

*Jacob getting Isaac's blessing?

*Abigail energizing David

*Harpist who helped inspire Elisha?

*2Ki 4 Shunammite woman who received a miracle because she was eager to do Elisha good

*Centurion who told Jesus that he didn't even need to come see him but to "just say the word"

*Woman with the issue of blood who touched the Lord and power left him

*Man who said to the Lord 'I believe, help my unbelief'

*The woman whom the Lord called a "dog"

haSun 5:26pm

Thanks for that neat list : )

Moses’ Uncircumcised In Lips

Exo_4:10-13 – I am weak in speech, and slow-tongued

Exo_6:12-13 – MT: uncircumcised lips; LXX: without word / non-word-ish [ἄλογός εἰμι (ABP: not reckoned)]

Exo_6:28-30 – MT: uncircumcised lips; ABP: weak-voiced

Think: falling on face -- similarly: Jesus writes in the sand

“Uncircumcised” is used, according to the Hebrew idiom, for any imperfection which interferes with efficiency.”

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/exodus/6-12.htm

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https://randasbibleblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/what-does-it-mean-that-moses-had-uncircumcised-lips-and-what-is-its-significance/

1/2/23

Jos_22: -- Alternate Alter

Talk about a “quirk” that taught us loads of orthodoxy through a single misunderstanding/miscommunication!

Sirach 3 – When Dad’s Mind Fails

Pardon/excuse your dad when he is old and can't think straight

Sir_3:12 TVV+ [3:7, 3:12, 3:16, 4:2] My son [τέκνον – NETS: Child], take care of [ἀντιλαβοῦ] your father when he is old;

do not grieve [λυπήσῃς] ·him as long as he lives.1 [[ Sir_3:12] LXX(I) / Heb(A), Syr “him all the days of your life”]

13 Even if [κἂν – and if it may be] ·his mind fail [ἀπολείπῃ σύνεσιν (v. 29) – NETS: he fails in comprehension; Br: his understanding fail; Conversely: v 13, 24-26, 29 (i.e. sometimes a person is guilty on how they fair mentally at their end)], ·be considerate with him [συγγνώμην ἔχε – fig.: have patience with him (Br)];

do not revile [ἀτιμάσῃς – NETS: dishonor] ·him in the fullness of your strength [αὐτὸν ἐν πάσῃ ἰσχύι σου].2 [[ Sir_3:13] LXX / Heb(A), Syr “him all the days of his/your life”]

Sirach 19 – Slipping in Tongue, but Not Heart/Soul/Intent

Sir_19:16 TVV+ Then, too, a man can slip and not mean it;

who has not sinned with his tongue?

Sir_19:16 WEBA There is one that slips [Br: in his speech], and [Br: but] not [Br: his] from the heart ^WEB/Br [ψυχῆς – soul]: And who is he that has not sinned with his tongue?

Sir_19:16 ἔστιν ὀλισθάνων καὶ οὐκ ἀπὸ ψυχῆς, καὶ τίς οὐχ ἥμαρτεν ἐν τῇ γλώσσῃ αὐτοῦ;

there is one who slips with his mouth but not with his heart

Peter Didn't Know What He Was Saying

· Mat_17:4 – LSV: we may make three shelters [tents] here

· Mar_9:5-6 – LSV: ...for he was not knowing [ᾔδει] what ·he might say [WEB: to say], for they were ·greatly afraid [ἔκφοβοι]
Mar_9:6 οὐ γὰρ ᾔδει τί λαλήσῃ· ἦσαν γὰρ ἔκφοβοι.

· Luk_9:33 – LSV: not knowing what he says
...μὴ εἰδὼς ὃ λέγει

Not a single word of criticism in the Gospels (except that Peter had a quirk).

2Pe_1:16-21 – Holy mountain… “more firm the prophetic word” (LSV)

In retrospect, Peter does not allow anyone to despise his communication quirk, but much rather instead, we are commanded/charged to reverence his eye witness account all the more (in his epistle)!

We’re not allowed to assume he’s not inspired. We are required to believe that he has ‘a more sure word of prophecy’.

>> you will NOT wash my feet

Rebuke is well-deserved, when confidence is unfounded

Philip’s Pending Orthodoxy

Joh_{_}1:45 CAB Philip found Nathanael and said to him, "We have found the One about whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the Prophets--Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph."

Joh_1:45 εὑρίσκει Φίλιππος τὸν Ναθαναὴλ καὶ λέγει αὐτῷ· ὃν ἔγραψε Μωϋσῆς |Aμωυσης TSBμωσης| ἐν τῷ νόμῳ καὶ οἱ προφῆται εὑρήκαμεν, ᾿Ιησοῦν TSBτὸν υἱὸν τοῦ ᾿Ιωσὴφ τὸν ἀπὸ Ναζαρέτ. |Sναζαρεθ TBAναζαρετ|

One of the main points of John was to record specifically how Jesus was Divine, and also how His disciples discovered this.

The first chapter starts with declaring His pre-incarnate Divinity as the LOGOS/Word of God (Joh_1:1, etc.), and John shows how his disciples did not realize this in this very same chapter (Joh_{_}1:45) and how it took till the last supper (Joh_14:5, etc.) for Jesus to still be explaining His Divinity.

Therefore, when Philip said “Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph” John remembered and included this detail in his Gospel to emphasize this developing theme of Discovering Jesus’ Divinity, which was not quite realized by His disciples at first.

It is no accident that we read again later in John about Thomas and Philip, where Jesus says ‘have you not known me Philip?’

Joh_14:5-11 LSV Thomas says to Him, “Lord, we have not known to where You go away, and how are we able to know the way?”  6  Jesus says to him, “I AM the way, and the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father, if not through Me;  7 if you had known Me, you would also have known My Father, and from this time you have known Him, and have seen Him.”  8 Philip says to Him, “Lord, show to us the Father, and it is enough for us”;  9  Jesus says to him, “Such [a] long time am I with you, and you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; and how do you say, Show to us the Father? 10  Do you not believe that I [am] in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The sayings that I speak to you, I do not speak from Myself, and the Father who is abiding in Me does the works Himself;  11  believe Me, that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in Me; and if not, because of the works themselves, believe Me.

Joh_14:5  λεγειG3004V-PAI-3S λέγω to lay forth αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it θωμαςG2381N-NSM Θωμᾶς the twin κυριεG2962N-VSM κύριος lord ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not οιδαμενG1492V-RAI-1P οἶδα to see πουG4226PRT-I ποῦ at what locality υπαγειςG5217V-PAI-2S ὑπάγω to lead under [καιG2532CONJ καί and] τσβ πωςG4459ADV-I πῶς in what way? δυναμεθαG1410V-PNI-1P δύναμαι to be able τηνG3588T-ASF ὁ the οδονG3598N-ASF ὁδός a road ειδεναιG1492V-RAN οἶδα to see

Joh_14:6  λεγειG3004V-PAI-3S λέγω to lay forth αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it οG3588T-NSM ὁ the ιησουςG2424N-NSM Ἰησοῦς Jesus εγωG1473P-1NS ἐγώ I ειμιG1510V-PXI-1S εἰμί I exist ηG3588T-NSF ὁ the οδοςG3598N-NSF ὁδός a road καιG2532CONJ καί and ηG3588T-NSF ὁ the αληθειαG225N-NSF ἀλήθεια truth καιG2532CONJ καί and ηG3588T-NSF ὁ the ζωηG2222N-NSF ζωή life ουδειςG3762A-NSM οὐδείς not even one ερχεταιG2064V-PNI-3S ἔρχομαι to come προςG4314PREP πρός forward to τονG3588T-ASM ὁ the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father ειG1487COND εἰ if μηG3361PRT-N μή not διG1223PREP διά through εμουG1700P-1GS ἐγώ of me

Joh_14:7  ειG1487COND εἰ if εγνωκατεG1097V-RAI-2P γινώσκω to know να [εγνωκειτεG1097V-LAI-2P γινώσκω to know] τσβ μεG3165P-1AS μέ me καιG2532CONJ καί and τονG3588T-ASM ὁ the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father μουG3450P-1GS ἐγώ of me γνωσεσθεG1097V-FDI-2P γινώσκω to know να [εγνωκειτεG1097V-LAI-2P γινώσκω to know] τσβ [ανG302PRT ἄν soever] τσβ καιG2532CONJ καί and απG575PREP ἀπό off αρτιG737ADV ἄρτι just now γινωσκετεG1097V-PAI-2P γινώσκω to know αυτονG846P-ASM αὐτός he, she, it καιG2532CONJ καί and εωρακατεG3708V-RAI-2P-ATT ὁράω by extension αυτονG846P-ASM αὐτός he, she, it

Joh_14:8  λεγειG3004V-PAI-3S λέγω to lay forth αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it φιλιπποςG5376N-NSM Φίλιππος fond of horses κυριεG2962N-VSM κύριος lord δειξονG1166V-AAM-2S δεικνύω to show ημινG2254P-1DP ἐγώ to us τονG3588T-ASM ὁ the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father καιG2532CONJ καί and αρκειG714V-PAI-3S ἀρκέω to ward off ημινG2254P-1DP ἐγώ to us

Joh_14:9  λεγειG3004V-PAI-3S λέγω to lay forth αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it οG3588T-NSM ὁ the ιησουςG2424N-NSM Ἰησοῦς Jesus τοσουτωG5118D-DSM τοσοῦτος so vast as this να [τοσουτονG5118D-ASM τοσοῦτος so vast as this] τσβ χρονωG5550N-DSM χρόνος a space of time να [χρονονG5550N-ASM χρόνος a space of time] τσβ μεθG3326PREP μετά accompaniment υμωνG5216P-2GP σύ of you ειμιG1510V-PXI-1S εἰμί I exist καιG2532CONJ καί and ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not εγνωκαςG1097V-RAI-2S γινώσκω to know μεG3165P-1AS μέ me φιλιππεG5376N-VSM Φίλιππος fond of horses οG3588T-NSM ὁ the εωρακωςG3708V-RAP-NSM-ATT ὁράω by extension εμεG1691P-1AS ἐγώ me εωρακενG3708V-RAI-3S-ATT ὁράω by extension τονG3588T-ASM ὁ the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father [καιG2532CONJ καί and] τσβ πωςG4459ADV-I πῶς in what way? συG4771P-2NS σύ thou λεγειςG3004V-PAI-2S λέγω to lay forth δειξονG1166V-AAM-2S δεικνύω to show ημινG2254P-1DP ἐγώ to us τονG3588T-ASM ὁ the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father

(Notice the memorable numerical coincidence: 1:45 & 14:5 concerning Phillip)

We see that John repeatedly focuses on Philip and Thomas, along with a few others, as examples of how His disciples discovered Jesus’ Divinity.

A major climax of this theme is when the so called “doubting” Thomas declares Jesus to be his “Lord and God” (Joh_20:28 & comp. Joh_20:17).

Joh_20:27-29 LSV …do not become unbelieving, but believing.” 28  And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” [lit. the lord of mine and the God of mine] 29  Jesus says to him, “Because you have seen Me, Thomas, you have believed; blessed [are] those having not seen, and having believed.”

μηG3361PRT-N μή not γινουG1096V-PNM-2S γίνομαι to cause to be απιστοςG571A-NSM ἄπιστος disbelieving αλλαG235CONJ ἀλλά other things πιστοςG4103A-NSM πιστός trustworthy

Joh_20:28 [καιG2532CONJ καί and] τσβ απεκριθηG611V-ADI-3S ἀποκρίνομαι to conclude for oneself [οG3588T-NSM ὁ the] τσ θωμαςG2381N-NSM Θωμᾶς the twin καιG2532CONJ καί and ειπενG2036V-2AAI-3S ἔπω to speak αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it οG3588T-NSM ὁ the κυριοςG2962N-NSM κύριος lord μουG3450P-1GS ἐγώ of me καιG2532CONJ καί and οG3588T-NSM ὁ the θεοςG2316N-NSM θεός god μουG3450P-1GS ἐγώ of me

Joh_20:29  λεγειG3004V-PAI-3S λέγω to lay forth αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it οG3588T-NSM ὁ the ιησουςG2424N-NSM Ἰησοῦς Jesus οτιG3754CONJ ὅτι that, because εωρακαςG3708V-RAI-2S-ATT ὁράω by extension μεG3165P-1AS μέ me [θωμαG2381N-VSM Θωμᾶς the twin] τσ πεπιστευκαςG4100V-RAI-2S πιστεύω to have faith μακαριοιG3107A-NPM μακάριος supremely blest οιG3588T-NPM ὁ the μηG3361PRT-N μή not ιδοντεςG1492V-2AAP-NPM οἶδα to see καιG2532CONJ καί and πιστευσαντεςG4100V-AAP-NPM πιστεύω to have faith

What do you think Thomas’ preaching was like after he participated in bringing back this account to us? (…Remember Peter’s written preaching after the transfiguration?)

Philip’s “insufficient” impressions, quirks, and issues were not held against him, but he went on to be exalted to be one of the 12 pillars of the heavenly Jerusalem forever!

Philip’s Quirks in the Bible are not about how “uninspired” he was, but rather, that he was in the Bible in the first place and was inspired through his quirks to help write it!

Philip’s Quirks in the Bible are not about how bad he was, but how great he was, and how he, Thomas, and the other disciples Discovered Jesus’ Divinity, and the whole world is now filled with their glorious knowledge of Jesus’ Divine nature because of them. Through their mistakes we see how they declared to us this Truth in the Bible!

We do not need to doubt and blaspheme them for their “accidents” but rather we are commanded to believe them because of how they were directly exalted into inspiration through them.

Despising & re-Interpreting Are Forbidden

…1/8/23

Morality Matters!

The right conclusions about Communication Quirks come from reverently embracing the superiority of Moral Lordship, not the intuitive blasphemies of hypocritical strong flesh.

Devilish Accusations Toward Quirks -- Avoid/Beware

· Zec_3:1-2; Rev_12:10 – the devil is always accusing the brothers

· Be careful not to be a devil (Joh_6:70), or a female devil (1Ti_3:11; Tit_2:3)

Condemning the Innocent

Pro_17:15 – Abominable Flip-Flop

Psa_94:21 – Opposing righteous/innocent soul/blood

Isa_42:3 – Justice vs. Bruised Reed Breaking (just as in Zec_3:1-2)

no bruised reed breaking or wick/flax quenching, but faithful justice (MT) / true judgement (LXX)

“a bruised reed He will not break”

Mat_12 – Redemptive Mercy Does Not Condemn the Innocent

Mat_12:5-8 LSV  Or did you not read [ἀνέγνωτε (see: v.7)] in the Law, that on the Sabbaths the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless* [ἀναίτιοί]?  6  And I say to you that [One] greater than the temple is here;  7  and if you had known [ἐγνώκειτε (i.e. v.5)] what [this] is: Kindness I will, and not sacrifice—you had not [maybe/possibly (ἂν)] condemned [κατεδικάσατε] the blameless* [ἀναιτίους],  8  for the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Mat_12:5 ἢ οὐκ ἀνέγνωτε ἐν τῷ νόμῳ ὅτι τοῖς σάββασιν οἱ ἱερεῖς ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ τὸ σάββατον βεβηλοῦσι, καὶ ἀναίτιοί εἰσι;

Mat_12:6 λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι τοῦ ἱεροῦ |BAμειζον| TSμεῖζων ἐστὶν ὧδε.

Mat_12:7 εἰ δὲ ἐγνώκειτε τί ἐστιν |Aελεος| TSBἔλεον θέλω καὶ οὐ θυσίαν, οὐκ ἂν κατεδικάσατε τοὺς ἀναιτίους.

Mat_12:8 κύριος γάρ ἐστιν ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου καὶ τοῦ σαββάτου.

Mat_12:8 κυριος γαρ εστιν TSκαι του σαββατου ο υιος του ανθρωπου

[* Mat_12:5, Mat_12:7; Deu_19:10, Deu_19:13; Deu_21:8-9]

Sympathy, Not Criticism!

· Do THIS instead of THAT -- now logic wins! (think: Sympathy vs. Criticism)

· When someone stumbles in their attempt to communicate the pressing and most urgent need is sympathy, not criticism!

· Accredit good to the victims of our failed human condition.

(as seen in Mat_12:7 above)

Never kick a creature when they are down since:

(1) Academic strength is evil to boast in, and,

(2) Criticizing someone in the strength of evil is Hypocrisy and more guilt than the victim (like ‘judging a frail father in your strength’ in Sirach)

(3) Whatever hypocritical judgements you commit against another you condemn yourself of worse crimes

(4) We are all subject to weakness, and,

(5) If we don’t fail today we are sure to likely fail tomorrow, and,

(6) You need the same and more sympathy in your time of need than you would ever give another in their time of trouble.

If someone has a communication quirk, you're not allowed to "read into it" a negative, or worst case/possible interpretation, but rather, wait for them and first give them a chance to be pleasantly vindicated of your negative impression, and especially excuse one whose previous reputation has been sufficiently established otherwise.

Hypocrisy Toward Quirks -- Avoid/Beware

· Especially beware when it risks hypocrisy to accuse someone who is more innocent than you in the very area that you're finding fault with them.

· Priscilla story*: ‘you're judging him and you don't know his heart’

· am I judging a hypocrite without knowing that hypocrite or is Priscilla hypocritically judging me without knowing me and sinning against God and man by assuming non-inspiration?

· Reminder: Hypocrisy = Inconsistency = Breach in Logic (incl. righteous communication)

· Intuitive assumptions about someone else against their virtue is VERY ILLOGICAL/immoral/illegal/unwise/dangerous/hazardous/dirty/sinful!

· Accusing before asking (when needed/required) = Illogical Inconsistent Hypocrisy

· Whatever you hypocritically accuse someone of, your hypocrisy is, by nature, much worse than its accusation.

· In the same way also: when you judge another person’s communication quirks, you are in much more serious danger of most likely being much more of a hypocrite than any of the much smaller things you accuse them of in your heart.

* Priscilla Batista Brown I guess with my other comment what I meant is that you can still communicate your point to someone who you think isn't living right in a way that doesn't assume you know them so well. I will think on this more and ask anything if i need too. :)

Quirky Determinations

· Important key: determine if someone was a victim of a Communication Quirk or if they really did sin in the strength of their heart.

· Measure real virtues of real morality to get the real deal of reality.

· The metric of virtue always wins when determining who is right and wrong.

· Remember: ask someone permission before believing something negative against them -- and become at peace with logical communication.

· Don’t judge hidden motives, especially all the more if someone has not objectively exhibited literal sin in strength (by word or other deed) in the area of their stumbling.

· If an expression is subject to interpretation, misunderstanding, failure, weakness, accidents, and unintended results, don’t judge it and risk vanity, falsehood, hypocrisy, and worse guilt.

· Don’t risk vain drama by criticizing something that is not even real in the first place.

· If someone has not really expressed what they intended, and how they intended it, then it is not righteous or logically permitted to critique their mis-expression and believe what you want to about them without their permission.

· If you are unsure about an apparent quirk, then try to excuse them in your heart, and then, especially (even more) if you're still unresolved, ask for verification that your merciful conceptualization is accurate.

Quirky Conclusions of Inspiration

· Divine Quirks teach us not to be fleshly and idolatrous with our illogical intuitive assumptions of the satanic flesh.

· There’s lot’s of hope for us to increase the Word of God upon the earth if we concur all despising and assuming non-inspiration.

If…

· Not contradicting knowledge / preceding knowledge

· They aren’t ignoring the Bible

· If they’re eager/willing to change

· Not sinning in the strength of their heart

· Part of a valid human experience

…Then fear to criticize them -- it might be a valid part of the human experience, and they might even be inspired.

The End Is What Counts

1/24/23

Gauge people based on how they end

Jesus was raised from a starting point that did not have knowledge

wouldn't you be a complete loser to think that Jesus did not have wisdom as a baby even though he was wisdom itself incarnate?

this is the exact same state we are all in whenever going through various processes of acquiring knowledge - remembering the basics of reality, that knowledge is not wisdom and lack of knowledge is not lack of wisdom, but instead rather, the seed of wisdom is the fear of God which manages knowledge as it comes and grows and blossoms into its full strength as it finds opportunity to acquire knowledge and manage it masterfully and skillfully in all prestigious morality and inspired excellence.

and that's why we need to treat each other like anointed one and not assume non-inspiration when knowledge is not there

Managing Misunderstanding

-- Under Construction --

>> more soundness and completion needed:

Ay’s Concerns

1/8/23

Questions AySun_5:52pm(edited) -- with overseer’s comments inserted

It doesn't sound to me like person's B need is being organized but more so ability to first acknowledge alignment or disalignment with A before bringing up another point.

>> but expressing that requires organization to express

I dont get why person A seems ro need to pamper person's Bs ego for saying something good even if they werent focused on the topic at hand.

>> Remember that we are talking about what OUR group is dealing with (not just any generic audience with larger varieties of issues)

>> Glorifying God is not pampering another person’s ego -- otherwise you risk assuming non-inspiration / illogic

>> Despising others risks hypocrisy -- where you are worse than the false accusation/slander you invent in your heart

>> “the topic at hand” -- if they are changing it then that means changing the subject vs. making a different point

To me it sounds like Person B is the ine who initiates confusion and the responsibility is in their court or else A now needs to manage what the initial point was as well as everything in the dissertation.

>> Those who initiate a discussion are not Lords of what is required to fix it

>> Whoever has virtue has the solution to the biggest need for what to focus on

>> Focusing on multiple points at the same time is not ideal, but it is usually the nature of being human and needing to resolve a complex discussion

Sounds like less ego is also person B wanting to understand and resolve the initial point before now saying what they think is valuable and now expecting a pat on the back for saying good things but also disjointing the conversation.

>> Person B can often bring up prerequisites needed before fully addressing A’s original point

>> The suspicion of “expecting a pat on the back” is assuming non-inspiration -- esp. if applied among us (righteous people only want Truth to be glorified)

>> B is only “disjointing the conversation” if they are changing the subject

>> Resolving the initial point is ideal, but not Biblically required

>> Phineas was more righteous than all of our understanding and God glorified him forever and we should too -- without assuming non-inspiration and suspecting unlawful ego centralism & selfish ambitions of congratulations on his behalf

How is person A being egotistic to expect response to address what is being said. Isnt that fundamental aspect to effective communication

>> changing the subject or introducing prerequisites?

AySun 6:00pm

Wasn't able to find space to mention during the call, but I think this example is important and would like to us to continue it.

…

Wife’s Responce

AlSun_6:23pm

"pamper person's Bs ego"

"Person B is the one who initiates confusion "

"and now expecting a pat on the back"

"for...disjointing the conversation."

Doesn't sound like it will be healthy for any of us to process things in that way...

I'm thinking through the various types of discussions that have happened among us in the past...Maybe one of the next things we can do (that might be helpful for us) is to define the primary situation/context in question by using specific examples that have actually happened among us, and then to set some parameters from that

Ay Continues

AySun_6:31pm(edited)

I guess while the example is still fresh:

I was wondering For the dont judge A, B example where A was talking about not judging.

Instead of B saying "the Bible tells us how to judge" wouldn't it be better if B first said, " yes, we're not supposed to judge [in this context]. And/but the Bible also tells us how to judge if we're going to judge."

But if person B just goes into "the Bible tells us how to judge" or they just start a dissertation about how to judge, then why would it be and issue for person A to say you didn't understand me if the aspect they're coming from is not judging and now person A would now be you responsible for saying, "yes you made a good point about when it is okay to judge but what I was referring to me was when it's not okay to judge." I guess I don't understand why person A would be egotistic for expecting person B to respond based on what was said. I thought that was just how communication works. If person A becomes responsible for being the one that says "you make good points and I'm going to think about it" then that makes sense they should do that but to me it sounds like issue started by person who not aligning with what person is said but going off on another point even if it is relevant and perhaps it is more valuable.

But I guess what good is it if it's not effective because now it just confusing and possibly a cycle but now person A is responsible for breaking it and if they get frustrated from perpetually feeling misunderstood I feel like there's a lot of blame and in reality the issue started with B's response.

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As for the emotionally charged part how is it not assuming that the person who is now frustrated from being misunderstood now is just writing off what somebody else said because they're being emotional.

If person B feels like or is wondering if person A is just writing off what B said because person A sounds emotional charged/frustrated then wouldn't person B assuming possible malicious intent of person A for being evil by not acknowledging truth just because they're frustrated?

I guess I don't understand why person Awould be categorizes egotistic and need to take responsibility for making person B not feel like person A is being malicious.

And I think I understand what our Mom was saying that person A isnot expected to be smart and connect all the dots from Bs response. So I feel like B can at least acknowledge what the point of the conversation initially started as before directing it to something else even if that's something else is greater and more valuable.

I don't understand why if A is egotistical for desiring making sure that "first things are first" so to speak and keeping focused. What if Person A doesn't need the whole conversation to be about their point if their point really isn't valid but if it hasnt been clear that the initial point of the conversation isn't valid, but other things are being said then, yeah person A is trying to remain focus and not end up going off on what seems to them like other topics because it hasn't been established that everyone is talking about the same topic and that B didnt go out of context.

AySun_6:33pm(edited)

@Al sounds good. Yeah talking about a specific example makes sense since we may have different examples in our head while trying to work out through the principles.

I'm just stating my concerns and wondering based off of the generic discussion.

haSun_6:37pm -- RE: Al said

I was actually going to mention, is using the word egocentric appropriate for the talk at hand for either person A or person B? I think somewhere I appreciate what our mom mentioned in general, but also the use of the term egocentric towards person A is very hard to process and doesn't make you feel like person A is being represented well. I like the concept of working together to value each other, with person A and person B bending over backwards as a team to help each other be understood. It can feel like both person A and person B have things to work on in order to promote teamwork, and its not all morally person As fault and all person B needs to do is work on being more organized. Putting moral blame on person A is very hard to understand in the context of a conversation where we are seeking to value each other by understanding each other.

haSun_6:51pm(edited)

And as mentioned, I really dont like the idea of isolating this situation to teacher and student convos. I feel like I have been in person B spot plenty of times and as mentioned I feel grateful that if I say something that doesnt address what person A is saying, that person A tells me so. If person A mentioned that I wouldnt think person A was being egocentric, so it is very hard for me to fully understand how they are being so.

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General Answers

~1/13/23

>> Scrip:

as those watching over your souls... that would not be profitable

love the soft hearted heart purifying righteousness of the Logic and Wisdom of God

repent of assuming non-inspiration by converting to a posture of welcoming/anticipating/expecting / believing in inspiration

do work on your end to prepare yourself to bring a more excellent righteous ground for better seed to grow in you

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1/8/23; 1/14/23

>>Scrip:

Joh_4:

Warning: I request and exhort that you carefully believe my testimony for now until we all understand each other:

At least in many ways we are lacking full understanding because we are struggling with very kinder garden principles as basic children…

I speek as one who councils on many deep matters: those asking for more strategy from person B have sometimes greatly needed strategy in communication.

When I’m talking with less ego centric generations, “person A needs to change”, when I’m speaking to younger generations “person B needs to change…”

>>Scrip:

In understanding be men

Wise people don’t trip because others misunderstand them

Don’t Insist on Requiring more organization in B’s communication than the Bible exemplifies in its conversations

The Bible says a lot of divine truth ad exemplifies lot of conversations without making everything contextualized and easily understood.

By doing this the Bible teaches us different and more important ways to grow and accomplish successful communication.

To be sure and clear: the logic of God is the best remedy for communication -- teacher-oriented communication is NOT always the most logical way to tackle morally complex discussions.

Examples of Complex Discussions

~1/8/23

the entire Bible speaks in a very brief complex condensed way and is in constant need of a lot of explanation, all of which is the responsibility of the listener or reader to apply logic and hear logic through immeasurable complications

Job - the entire book

one of the most basic concepts for the basis of the book of Job is authenticating The human experience of that form of complex multifaceted communication with simultaneous contributions all needed to be tested in a non-sequential way, while generally disapproving of their wrong statements within the valid process of them communicating them.

if that form were radically illogical and unacceptable or non-ideal, they wouldn't have made it to first base so as to somewhat glorify the entire experience of their conversation by taking up so many chapters in the Bible.

the arguments in job could be quite complex and potentially challenging to follow, yet job does not find any trouble in such communication, or in continually engaging their contributions, but only the invalidness within what they're trying to say.

Ecclesiastes is primarily a simultaneous consideration of many factors almost none of which get resolved or finished until the very end of the book.

Jacob and his sons as Shechem

when Jesus'authority is questioned - like many other times when Jesus indirectly responded to what people said

the complex Epistles are almost 100% simultaneous complex considerations.

Revelation is extremely logical like many of the other prophets is extremely simultaneous

with this type of communication you have to pay closer attention to what's actually being said whenever they don't hold your hand in an explicitly teacher-oriented communication.

Inspiration Reminders

1/8/23

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'a gentle tongue' and 'a still small voice' is all that is needed to 'break a bone' and 'chop through rock' - therefore we are forbidden to demand or insist on or even seek or idealize an impressive show of speech before we are persuaded by the perfect virtue of what is said

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such mechanisms of assumed non inspiration, if actually applied in and to our historical context, are unloving, unrighteous, untrue, bitter, full of darkness, illogical, irrational, unfair, dirty, untrue, dangerous, hazardous...

as I said, I'm not so sure whether or not these statements were literally applied to us historically or not, and one way or the other, I don't think that our dangers of assuming non inspiration, are intentional, but by all means whatever the case with all of these factors, we definitely need to take these principles and ideas seriously and repent and change and return to our first Faith and do the first works of real Love

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let us do more work on our own so that we won't have so much work to do when we come together...!

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wheat and chaf

You have both the privilege and the fearful liability of seeing various ones of us on a more frequent basis than the outside world, and from this responsibility You are required to be found faithful without an ounce of despising fully safe and trustable and fully responsible to have a level head and a rational analysis, to acknowledge the reality of what you have actually experienced and seen and limitations of what you don't understand...

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take these kind friendly reminders for however they may apply.

'if the shoe fits, then wear it', and if it doesn't, then there is no harm done in refreshing our purpose statements.

>> Scrip:

for me it is not burdensome to remind you of these things but for you it is safe

because his commands are not burdensome, BTW.

My dear people, please remember and take it to heart that I'm addressing these things to help you for your safety and benefit, otherwise if I were seeking my own cause I would not labor in these complications. - it is much easier for me to be passive and to let these things pass by at the risk of your misunderstanding, but that is definitely not healthy or safe for you to misunderstand and to miss out on learning something important and vital that could change and upgrade you... and eventually identify the very thing (s) you need the most to complete your redemption from this hateful life...

>> Scrip:

I wish all God's people were prophets

remember that any of us can raise up and give a prophecy

at any point any of us can speak boldly when becoming arrested by the mightyness of Scriptures or simply the blessed voice from heaven that wrote them

even our youngest can declare mighty authoritative Truth for all of us to believe and obey.

much like the synagogues in the Bible and very unlike the churches today, we are very eager for anyone to come bring a word of exhortation or an authoritative proclamation of Truth - you just better be able to back up what you say or you'll get stoned, or in this case, for the New covenant, you'll get excommunicated and thrown into hell (if you're persisting in overconfidence and not submitting to the authority of the Scriptures to judge yourself soberly and quarantine all your disarrangements as much as possible, etc.)

go right ahead and be bold, and declare Truth with the clean and good conscience.

go ahead and set the record straight with a straight heart that cannot lie.

draw off of the depth of truth and serious knowledge and perfect peace with wisdom to set the wobbly feet of children on firm ground and teach them to walk.

after all, we do not have any need to hesitate as though there is really any unclarity in this matter after the Scriptures have already so clearly, righteously, and convictingly declared to us:

>> Scrip:

what is the wheat from the chaff

but whether you are bold or whether you are hesitant, at least do this: choose rightly whether you will insistently instruct others with real knowledge or whether you should rather refuse to defend your experience and instead beg and ask for help from others to change, but don't ride the fence and don't insist on something that is weak and beggarly and inferior from this world when we have an opportunity to change and embrace good announcement.

Don't be double-soul-ed and inconsistent 'halting on two feet' saying you want discipleship and yet not changing in the very areas you so desperately need to imitate others, and learn something new and different to change from the condemned blindness of your flesh. Decide what you want first, and stick with it faithfully (if it is indeed true), firm to the end, with a clean conscience, and a righteous virtue that knows Truth in prayer, and be consistent with your first faith, lest you fall to pride and hypocrisy.

as only one example among us which could also include other examples from others as well...

as I've said before to Ay, I say again:

'if you don't let me help you change in the way that you communicate then I cannot disciple you'

I'm not willing to suggest that this statement is comprehensive, even though I said it at the risk of being misunderstood in an over simplified way, as though i thought that our issues are simply as simplistic as this, yet there is a sense in which this is True, and it is still accurate and needful, in many ways it is one of the most important senses for us to consider...

nevertheless, I do still say this again, and I don't say it with the slightest bit of pride or overconfidence or stepping beyond the boundaries of what has been bound unto me to speak and to do. I will go to judgment having said this having preferred others before myself with a clean conscience and a pattern which you can imitate to find favorable connection to the Truth in prayer.

if I were selfish I would not risk my serenity in this way, nor would I add the complication of delving into difficult things risking a simple environment in order to push for greater benefit in other's behalf.

>> Scrip:

that they may do it with joy because if it is with constraint that would not be profitable for you

I hope you can at least trust me in this, and then with that clean and loving basis we can move forward to communicate and work through all of the other details and complications.

and if indeed you will so please me and heaven by speaking boldness in a good conscience, that does not mean that you need to thunder with your voice, and we must not constrain any of us to yell or amplify ourselves before we are believed, it just means A bold speaker among us must be monotheistically and logically agreeing with the Truth and your passion and zeal are based off of the heart-purifying righteousness of submitting to a Truth outside of your own nature, and are consistently speaking in the best interest of objective Truth because you are constrained outside of your own body and you are without self-interest, and you have abstained in innocence from advertising the praise of your own soul.

did Moses 'take too much on himself' in the wilderness by constantly affirming monotheistic arrangements and righteous rules against the wild disarrangements and perils of The flesh?

and when applying this to us, obviously anyone can fill the shoes of Moses or Elijah or the other prophets or Matriarchs of Bible. Just because certain associations have been repeated that doesn't mean our glories cannot overlap with various figures in the Bible.

furthermore, remember forever and never forget that the standards of selflessness are measured without hypocrisy by viewing the way person ends, not the way they begin.

because it is by this standard of faith that the elders gained a good testimony: it was not as though Moses never feared or Sarah never laughed or Abraham never had a question, but these all ended in faith and in such a way going towards a good testimony in the hall of faith, just as we are required to do so as a biblical canonical standard of real Truth required toward each other.

our selflessness and testimony is not measured in transit along the way, in the meantime while moving from one place to the other, momentarily needing understanding, - be warned and always remember that the flesh Is Bent toward satanic accusations, and you can very easily recognize predictable patternized crimes of exploiting momentary considerations, and processes of learning, and initial pains before they are led into faith, So as to take a momentary and misleading misrepresentative snapshot at just the wrong time of the righteous, with just the wrong lighting, to supposedly capture an unflattering image that lies more than it represents the Truth... when a dark shadow imposes itself on the weakness of a righteous person's flesh, it is not the person's expression that you see at first, but rather it is the unpleasant strain and negative feeling of that evil principle superimposed against them which might easily distort their countenance temporarily, and that is not a representative memory of who they really are but of their opposition which bitterly resists them, but instead you ought to take a picture of them and see it in your memory after they have cast all untruth to the ground with mightiness and loving virtue and then you will have a picture of Truth in your mind and not a satanic accusation of hypocrisy that forms doubly worse hypocrisy in the one who accuses of it.

A premature Snapchat represents a person's trial, but where a person ends represents their choice, Walk, and lifestyle.

We should always guard ourselves and others to not exploit a snapshot prematurely taken out of context in such a way to fragment a misrepresented event that encourages misunderstanding, and deception as a result, and fuels satanic accusations.

misrepresentations and deceptions are the devil's tools and his native language as being the author of confusion and father of lies.

We dare not so willingly cooperate with such overt and predictable tools as these, lest we risk having the devil's fingerprint on us...

tank careful and deep note that the flesh always wages war against recognizing a difference between momentary problems and continuing to sin...

and indeed, you will never know the difference between 'the wheat and the chaff' and you will always despise and assume not inspiration unless you permanently and qualitatively decide and commit in your heart to set aside momentary events and admire with reverence the continual glow and glory of the posture, Walk, lifestyle, and continual tence of obeying...

never assume non-inspiration when someone has left their flesh and persistently, insistently, and carefully declared from something outside of themselves, no matter whether or not they themselves are comfortable with that standard.

Illogical disarrangements and wild lustful selfish flesh assumed non-inspiration in the wilderness and perished, blasphemously concluding without any rational monotheistic basis that Moses was being selfish, just as it was blasphemed against even Elijah, Jeremiah, even Balaam, and so many other prophets...

don't be in any danger of even slightly tolerating hints of assuming non-inspiration, but instead prove monotheistic virtual laws by which we can all hear and believe and live without being spiritually disconnected from the Truth.

the blessedness of having departed from the flesh and having come into and under the rules of demanded righteousness outside of one's own heart and mind and default and culture and upbringing will be our Canon and cleanness and righteousness for a fresh new covenant of believing the truth and being soft-hearted in clean righteousness. this will be our safe and clean soft-hearted standard that keeps us in good standing with heaven and connects us to Truth when praying.

that is my prayer for us: that we would be connected to the Truth when we pray, and that we would care and notice when departures affect our closeness with heaven. and that we would not have personally destructive doctrines to inherently go the wrong direction which is not in our best interest.

this is to our glory and best interest that we would increase in choosing to do the right work on our own, and starting in the right place, having connected to Superior virtues and serious and weighty knowledge from above, and come together with greater profit and rejoicing, having already found the same principles and values in prayer, and started working on the same foundational Truth which we will find more completed in each other as we come together and collabor together under the obedience of wisdom.

I pray that our faith would not fail and that we would endure thoroughly without changing our gospel and remember these rules and escape those perishing in the wilderness, and glorify all objective monotheism...

furthermore, there is also this happy possibility that one may raise up with Truth and another may also raise up with additional Truth - and we 'can all prophesy' (more or less, in one way or the other) and we can all be edified and built up and come together to be each other's heroes.

my considerations and the value I bring to the table and the message of Hope I demand from us are not so impenetrable that no one else might get a word in edgewise, but as much as it is right to have a love obsession wisdom, we must all glorify right things together in unison in perfect agreement in order to become a symphony from heaven saving all of ourselves and those beholding us.

if multiple considerations are correct, cleanly true, and very needed, then we will rejoice each other in boldly declaring Truth about different aspects, as long as we are careful and reverent, maintaining integrity, not assuming non-inspiration...

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negative pre-suppositions

it requires negative pre-suppositions, that is assuming non-inspiration, to frame or refraim the AB conversation s in that light.

whether these negative pre-suppositions are purely theoretical or if they are also in practice specifically in application toward our historical events, these negative assumptions are illustrations of the very principle mechanisms of assuming non-inspiration that we need to repent of.

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there are different structures and logical mechanisms for communication in the Bible, and we are better off preferring those and identifying those and using those and placing weight and responsibility based on those structures rather than our own culture that struggles so much with communication.

We do not correct ourselves into all perfection and agreement by drawing off of the solutions that the world and human experience has to offer for its own problems.

Divine cannons tell us how we ought to change unto a Superior perfection by virtuous values contradictory to all of the supposed and strength of this life which is failing.

AB Clash

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Clarification: I wasn't so much trying to say that person A was being directly egocentric, but rather that the culture that taught younger generations to communicate is increasingly egocentric. The main potential risk of possibly being egocentric is to defend that type of cultural thinking (so we need to be aware and have a certain amount of caution when relearning how to communicate better).

When some among us has been in a person B posture, I have sought to validate their contribution even if they didn't understand my main point or someone else's main point (in a person A posture). When some of us have been in a person A posture we have often exhibited excessive struggle to understand the value of person B's contribution.

not making progress and learning to change and defending the culture that taught you to not recognize what someone else is saying.

younger generations are being taught by an increasingly egocentric culture, and that can have its consequences on communication.

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AB

I'm not saying that person A is being egocentric, but I'm alerting you that egocentric cultures uniquely and particularly fail at training such people to recognize biblical forms of logical communication.

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AB example includes and excludes me personally.

I have been in both A and B situations.

I have wondered what B was getting at and how it applied to what I was saying, and I have also been appreciative when they have made a better point than myself, and I've been in a B posture where I appreciated A helping me get on back on track (like the blessed H mentioned). and I've been in many situations where I have just wished we were stronger at helping each other move forward in our communication progress...

I have needed help understanding A and I have needed help understanding B. I have been in weakness and I have also been made strong in it.

I have been involved in many fights and watched arguments all my life, and have been saved out of it all by a different gospel totally out of this world that completely contradicts all such foolishness perversion and disarrangements.

I am gripped in a love obsession with mighty wisdom which promises and demands a superior perfect agreement by following her rules and submitting to her judgments and glorifying her decisions and values.

sometimes I have been involved in this type of AB conversation, and other times I have sat back and watched others struggle in this type of dynamic way - and the main need / concern among us is to learn to listen better...

and having come this far and having gotten this specific, I would not have done so if I were not requested to get more specific with examples, and if I give examples it is even more required of those who listen to see my examples as objective and not self-serving or biased, because this is healthier and safer for you, rather than to lose what I'm saying by being prematurely caught up in examples where objectivity still needs to be communicated, understood, and established.

whether each speaker is strong or weak in their points, our greatest improvement and need is to listen better to move forward in our AB communications.

whether I happen to be entrenched in an AB conversation or I'm observing others entrenched in an AB dynamic, whoever has the most virtue always wins: whether that be a particular display of humility, or any other virtue, including raw Biblical Truth.

it is ideal to be careful and sequential, and to finish discussing the first point before moving one to other points, and for a person B to be explicit in their transitions & cross references, but it is by no means biblically mandated or exemplified, and is therefore not an inherent disarrangement, as long as their flow of communication is logical in one way or in another and carries an order to their communication and (particularly and especially) a rightness to what they're actually literally saying... -- irregardless of quirks, misunderstandings, confusions, different perspectives, and such...

it is an inherent disarrangement to keep lacking listening, and it is biblically mandated, and exemplified to learn to listen to each other and recognize logical patterns in other people's dynamic communications and be courageous and heroic enough to solve the puzzle, by becoming mighty in communication from being sufficiently trained.

listening better and seeking to see how it applies and prove another person's point as much as you have opportunity is almost always the biggest crying need for our successful understanding and resulting communication success.

it is ideal whenever possible to focus on one point at a time and align and reach thorough conclusions before moving on to the next point, but that is not always the most logical way to resolve complex discussions.

discussing multiple factors at once becomes required when there are prerequisites and interdependencies and sometimes even superiorities to consider when considerations become inherently complex and moral factors become dynamic...

holding a lot of complex information in your head at once and dynamically interchanging between multiple complex thoughts is the way the Creator formed the universe and wrote the Scriptures and exemplified numerous complicated exchanges between His heroes

B might have a superior point that takes precedence, or person B might be struggling to understand person A and needs another question answered first before understanding can follow

there are biblical and logical cues for identifying and following this type of cooperative ping pong communication.

increasingly egocentric cultures have not taught each newer generation the communication skills and values to successfully collaborate in ping pong communication.

Communication Changes

Lest we speak into the air.

Many other dates from months before; 9/2/15; 8/21/16

>> Comp: Hearing Comprehension -- in ROW!

>>Scrip:

No as with uncertainty beating the air

Whatever you do, do it with all your soul / might

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See: discouraged quiet talking -- Pop: LoveP

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Speech Recognition

4/04/16-4/5/16

Speak like a sports broadcaster…

If you think that that is too artificial and fake, just think how much worse it is for you to give over unfaithful quietness to ears that were supposed to hear you

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11/14/15

It is a bad testimony if we are unfaithful in communication, and disfuctional to the degree that (garbage was left outside of rusty...)

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No Competition: No Complex-ification

1/13/16; 1/17/16

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Do not make a simple thing complicated.

When someone is struggling to make one point clear, and puts things in a simplistic format in order to accomplish understanding, it is wrong to add other complicated factors to that that are not serving the goal of the one who needs to clarify one point.

It is morally wrong to serve your own self-seeking purposes when someone else should be served in communication.

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The communication habits of some of the disciples among us are still under probation.

We should not outsource responsibility, or pretend like this is not the case.

Self discipline is for grown ups, and regular old discipline is for children.

If you do not endure either discipline than your acting as totally illegitimate children.

The blessing of protection comes upon your soul when you're under submission.

I will not be responsible on judgement day for anyone's actions that are not under my authority.

Be Slow to Speak & Quick to Hear

12/5/15

Almost all behavioral communication problems are due to not being faithful/wise/perceptive/caring/just in listening.

General Exceptions:

· Dialect

· Other physical limitations

But Sometimes even Dialect challenges are increased by carelessness/complacency/selfish ego-centricism.

Warning: falling asleep after someone has listened to you might be a symptom of loving to speak but not righteously loving to hear.

Warning 2: Misunderstandings

the frequent Misunderstandings among us can be avoided by correcting justice issues.

Misrepresenting those among us is a faithfulness/justice issue.

Think and listen, and obey this greatly before speaking.

Not being able to accurately rehearse what what said is an unlove toward listening.

>>Scrip: be careful how you hear!

The point: We should love hearing the point of speakers rather than hearing ourselves feel sucessful in expressing our own thoughts/passions/lusts/interests.

Be zealous to stop in the middle of your tracks and repent and stop doing communication sins right where they occur, and then also wherever they start.

All in One conversation:

(1)Sweet potato -- calling both potato & Sweet potato “potatos”

>> had to wrestle to find out what was even being said

(2) Peanut butter

>> calling the oils “natural” when they are not “naturally occurring” --

>> if there is a sense in which something can be understood how it is being said, it is right to prefer that rather than defaulting to a way in which it is not so…

(3) Android Speaker

>> understand “speaker” in the sense that the other person is using it

>> don’t add “speaker Phone” so that it does not work the way they are describing

Life and communication and love does not default to being oriented toward contradiction.

Diplomacy to other people’s lives means that you are consumed with breaching the gap, not widening it.

Love and logic has a righteous answer to call us to change.

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Don’t do quiet throat talking

>> stop it, and help all of us stop it

Your not a man, but you still have to talk loud and prize communication

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11/1/15

Favor works.

If something does not work, don’t keep doing it.

We want the excellency of Solomon’s servants, not a reputation of being irresponcible.

Don’t be intentionally disfunctional

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Be compassionate

Answer quick and loud

Don’t ever leave people hanging

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Honor is making the rough paths smooth

It is right to love others by preparing things to work smoothly…

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Why/how to speak distinctly and enunciate --

is there a universal way to speak with more enunciation and much less sing-songy tone.

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Words are NOT feelings expressed by tones they are laws and realities of action.

If I say 'don't put dirt in the walkway and you do, that deserves a spanking. You should have the integrity to listen more than you vaugly feel and interpret and assume. We are no longer pagans here, we are monotheists. You have not right to mumble your words or to just casually 'feel' what people sound like rather than listeninng to the actual words that are being used. This is why is can be better to talk monotone when there is an epidemic of communication disfunctionality. We need to be rational and true, and respect communication more than the untruth of how we are feeling.

Complicated Challenges

· Natural different dialects thrown together because of truth -- part of redeeming all nations

· Bad Behavioral habits -- complacent toward projection / familiar quietness

· Demonic interferience

Don’t “tone” while speaking, project

Don’t abbreviate your words in speaking fast, because that omits the sounds others are often depending on to interpret your dialect

· Stop "familiar quiet talking"

· don't speak from your mouth, but from yur diaphram

· We want to have an answer for Mir (& the nations), not be embarased for disfunctional habits

· Sometimes I find myself slacking in projection

· Sometimes I say it loud and clear and I already know I am going to have to say it again for no perceivable reason...

· Talk more like a news broadcaster -- if it doesn't work for speech recognition, it might not work for us

> it is OK to speak loud!

> raising voice dos not equal being mad/non-gentle-ness

> don't make tones over words... We want words to work in communication, even if we have to talk in mono tone to be heard.

why do people of the same dilect say "what" when they are speaking right in front of each other??

>> happened more than 5 times in the span of a few mins (wasn't trying to keep track)

>> we CANNOT keep doing the same thing when this happens

>> this is reason for concern, and reason for action... can't tolorate living in a way that plans to not be heard

>> example: we cannot live disfunctionally in the name of being gentle... this is not truth

Fear of Communicating

12/21/15

Unfaithful cat fears

Prepare words

Bad Postures Push You Away From Authority

12/21/15

If you are in a righteous posture ahead of time, you do not have fears of talking to authorities.

When you have been in the wrong poture about your concern, the “cat” part of your heart kicks in, and you have a secret despising of authority that calls God a “hard man” and is hopeless toward warming up toward faithful and righteous authority.

By the way:

They were afraid to ask him… but John asked Him…

Prioritizing Communication

Project - don't get loud from your throat, brieth in deep to push your voice further.

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We need to stop when we pause between one person and another, as much as possible.

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for some reason we think that even though they are talking to me, I don't necisarily need to put the same effort into listening.

If I threw a ball at you, it should take more affort to catch than to throw. How much more with spiritual things. But we leave teachers extending their soul while we file our nails, and walk off.

How is it that we know to keep our glass under the dispensor untill our drink is poured, lest valuable juice is wasted by being poured on the floor, but we don't know how to stop withdrawling our ear from hearing the Law (see Pro???).

- the more valuable the food or drink and the finer it tasts, the lest we can afford to waist it. How valuable is spiritual truth

How much more serious is it to take hold of spiritual things than to catch a ball, and how much more precious is spiritual drink than physical?

- don't let spiritual drink pour all over the ground and treat it like it is worthless.

- No person should ever have to tell you this, since we all ready know how to catch balls and recieve drink in our cups, and it pertains to the hearers to value what they hear, not to the speaker to promote himself.

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Do unavoidable timeconsumers up front; Don't wait till you have 10 min left to start getting ready!

do things ahead of time (b-room)

put personal convienence way behind corporate effeciency

Why don't you rather suffer yourselves to be defruded?

- Get used to prefering that other people make you wait, than you make them wait

- take tasks with you to make use of waiting time

- Do not be addicted to making people wait for you, and fearing waiting on them.

aspire to project that you will be places after a certain time and when you need to be somewhere at a certain time, aspire to consistently be there ahead of time

means you got to hate being addicted to accomplishing things

means you got to be willing to be ‘used’ and inconvenienced all the time on a consistent basis

Prioritizing Communication

How to do Bible study

- Get all of your personal needs done before we go corporate

- it amazes me of how we can have hours of free time ahead of time, and then as soon as we go corporate someone needs to go to the bathroom. - this is family unsycrynisation... Some times we need to punish ourselves first with pain for disorder compulsions before we will remember to do things during the hurs of order

- ask before leaving

- maybe we need to have pre reminders (help me do this with each other: do bathroom break now! don't wait until we start)

- think of your thoughts before we say the title of the next direction. Avoid this whenever possible: Don't be quiet until the second I say "point B" and then sudenly get another thought. This can be disrespectful.

- don't disrespect the reving of a person's being in comunication with unecesary interruption. If someone is reving for your benefit, consider it and don't lightly kill it, since it is right and good for you to share the sentiments for what is being done for you to benefit you.

- no backround noise

- language is oneof the most cursed things: the fall + Babble (recieved a double curse)

- don't be fidgety, gittery and quick (impatient forigners who move to quick to understand or comunicate)

- we are all from 'other countries'

- we must be patient overcomming the language barrior

- NT has to do with this (tongues, patient to all, forgive)

- backround noise

Answering questions that people interrupt you with, in the ear to whom it does not belong

Praying too quietly does not establish agreement

don't ecept or accomodate or promote random distractions

other phone calls that can wait

never do personal side talk

Don't let things becom valid distractions to you, as much as possible

It is hard enough to do comunication. Don't make it harder by going along with the things that make it near imposible.

motioned with hand -unsaved jews had better understanding than we often do -

answer a matter before hear it

do not inter. a man in his speech

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Through fidget y ness and fear, it is all to easy to become so quickly discouraged and rashly give up on language and communication when we see the smallest friction

why forgin women are bad at it

but communication is logos, and this is biblical , and we must love it and hate the cheap and fearful way out.

communication means i believe in the possible unity of jesus enough to endure and

Music

physical—

- some people are born more (visually) attractive than others (and the Bible mentions this)

- sometimes this indicates in the physical, some particular spiritual thing (David, Ab’s wife) and other times the lack there of communicates God’s subjection or humiliation of a person (as Jesus)

- some people are born with more “fun” and enjoyable chemical makes ups and physiology than others (i.e. “extraverts”).

- some people are born with a voice that is just naturally sweeter than others (does this get abused? How about looks? Is that ever perverted?)

- some groups that get together naturally click better with singing than others (such as famous bands), and what does this mean in reality?

- Whether visually attractive or not, or else emotionally fun, or even having a beautiful voice or not, our Job is to please God with faith that despises this world:

- if we are subjected, it is for the sake of demanding the real faith in greater things (Paul & Silas); if we are exalted, it is for great thankfulness in God’s glorious display of Goodness that we not pervert His gift (Psalms)

play skillfully

tune together rather than all leading at once

goal : do what we can to help, while absolutely refusing to ever allow the despising of doubt

trust is needed

this is not a game or a ceremony, but a per suit of intimacy, corporate faith, and fervency

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spiritual—

honor the bride with non distraction

often, when you need things you ought not to need, you will end up having to hurt others to get it

do you ever feel like you have been cornered and put into a hard situation where you could not seem to avoid hurting someone in order to get done what you thought you needed to get done? check your heart and repent of your own supposed needs and you will suddenly be free to love people freely, and you will be able to look back and now realise clearly that what you seemed to need is now emba r e s s s ingly selfish

you’ll despise others when you are given to vainly love your own style and you will think and value your own fleshly preferences as core needs for relating to God, when you dont count then as vanity.

God does not need your style, and neither do you

kick the crutch out from under you so that you may sing with out the leaven of the flesh tainting against truth in others, since there are often disguised under different headings things that are actually proclaiming truth to you.

corporate singing is not the same as individual singing

the difference is you and God vs the assembly and God

the corporate assembly takes priority over individualism and personal expression

dont you have houses to meet your own personal needs in ?

so dont despise the corporate assembly for the sake of your personal needs

if you are really that spiritual, then meet your personal needs at home by yourself, and dont get energized by pathetic need of expressing yourself before others so that you can believe your personal practices yourself

if we cannot pray together in agreement then there is no sense in praying out load before each other just to be seen by men that obviously do not agree with you

the corporate has the good need, or even challenge, of learning to follow. this is honorable to give heed to there things

if you count style as vanity, then you can gladly listen more than you project, and learn the truth that requires the non despising adjustments to learning truth apart from your

conventional familiar style

learn a new song, or learn a song in a different style—both of these are good and needed

only sing honestly

always be very slow to declare your own salvation

change words if necessary to be safe, honest, and true

revere God. revear the assembling of souls which are apro ch ing God

value others and the protection of their sensitive souls more than they do themselves so that they are not invited to turn away and hide their souls

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Sir_32:3-12

3 Being older, you may talk; that is only your right,

but temper your wisdom, not to disturb the singing.

Sir_35:3 Speak, thou that art the elder, for it becometh thee, but with sound judgment; and hinder not musick.

Sir_35:3 εὐδοκία κυρίου ἀποστῆναι ἀπὸ πονηρίας, καὶ ἐξιλασμὸς ἀποστῆναι ἀπὸ ἀδικίας.

4 When wine is present,7 [7 [ Sir_32:4] Heb(B) / LXX “Where listening is in order”] do not pour out discourse,

and do not flaunt your wisdom at the wrong time.

Sir_35:4 Pour not out words where there is a musician, and shew not forth wisdom out of time.

Sir_35:4 μὴ ὀφθῇς ἐν προσώπῳ κυρίου κενός· πάντα γὰρ ταῦτα χάριν ἐντολῆς.

5 Like a seal of carnelian in a setting of gold is a concert when wine is served.

Sir_35:5 A concert of musick in a banquet of wine is as a signet of carbuncle set in gold.

Sir_35:5 προσφορὰ δικαίου λιπαίνει θυσιαστήριον, καὶ ἡ εὐωδία αὐτῆς ἔναντι ὑψίστου.

6 Like a gold mounting with an emerald seal is string music with delicious wine.

Sir_35:6 As a signet of an emerald set in a work of gold, so is the melody of musick with pleasant wine.

Sir_35:6 θυσία ἀνδρὸς δικαίου δεκτή, καὶ τὸ μνημόσυνον αὐτῆς οὐκ ἐπιλησθήσεται.

7 Young man, speak only when necessary,

when they have asked you more than once;

Sir_35:7 Speak, young man, if there be need of thee: and yet scarcely when thou art twice asked.

Sir_35:7 ἐν ἀγαθῷ ὀφθαλμῷ δόξασον τὸν κύριον καὶ μὴ σμικρύνῃς ἀπαρχὴν χειρῶν σου.

8 be brief, but say much in those few words, be like the wise man, taciturn.

Sir_35:8 Let thy speech be short, comprehending much in few words; be as one that knoweth and yet holdeth his tongue.

Sir_35:8 ἐν πάσῃ δόσει ἱλάρωσον τὸ πρόσωπόν σου καὶ ἐν εὐφροσύνῃ ἁγίασον δεκάτην.

9 When among your elders do not be forward, and with officials do not be too insistent.

Sir_35:9 If thou be among great men, make not thyself equal with them; and when ancient men are in place, use not many words.

Sir_35:9 δὸς ὑψίστῳ κατὰ τὴν δόσιν αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐν ἀγαθῷ ὀφθαλμῷ καθ᾿ εὕρεμα χειρός·

10 Like the lightning that flashes before a storm is the esteem that shines on modesty.8 [8 [ Sir_32:10] Syr omits “Like the lightning….modesty.”]

Sir_35:10 Before the thunder goeth lightning; and before a shamefaced man shall go favour.

Sir_35:10 ὅτι κύριος ἀνταποδιδούς ἐστιν καὶ ἑπταπλάσια ἀνταποδώσει σοι.

11 When it is time to leave, do not tarry;

be off for home!

Sir_35:11 Rise up betimes, and be not the last; but get thee home without delay.

Sir_35:11 Μὴ δωροκόπει, οὐ γὰρ προσδέξεται, καὶ μὴ ἔπεχε θυσίᾳ ἀδίκῳ·

12 There take your ease, and there enjoy doing as you wish, but without sin or words of pride.

Sir_35:12 There take thy pastime, and do what thou wilt: but sin not by proud speech.

Sir_35:12 ὅτι κύριος κριτής ἐστιν, καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν παρ᾿ αὐτῷ δόξα προσώπου.

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Worship Logic, or Die!

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After all, Truth needs to be a “scandal” so you won’t believe…

see: TrOb: The Blessed Scandal of Truth!

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Isiah 58 – Turn Away from The Luxury of Your Own Works

Isa_58:13 WEB "If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, and the holy of Yahweh honorable; and shall honor it, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words:

Isa_58:13 LB “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, so as not to do your pleasure on the holy days, and shall call the Sabbaths delightful, holy to God; if you shall not lift up your foot to work, nor speak a word in anger out of your mouth,

Isa_58:13 ἐὰν ἀποστρέψῃς τὸν πόδα σου ἀπὸ τῶν σαββάτων τοῦ μὴ ποιεῖν τὰ θελήματά σου ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἁγίᾳ καὶ καλέσεις τὰ σάββατα τρυφερά, ἅγια τῷ θεῷ σου, οὐκ ἀρεῖς τὸν πόδα σου ἐπ᾿ ἔργῳ οὐδὲ λαλήσεις λόγον ἐν ὀργῇ ἐκ τοῦ στόματός σου,

Isa_58:14 WEB then you shall delight yourself in Yahweh; and I will make you to ride on the high places of the earth; and I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father:" for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken it.

Isa_58:14 then shall you trust on the Lord; and He shall bring you up to the good places of the land, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken this.”

Isa_58:14 καὶ ἔσῃ πεποιθὼς ἐπὶ κύριον, καὶ ἀναβιβάσει σε ἐπὶ τὰ ἀγαθὰ τῆς γῆς καὶ ψωμιεῖ σε τὴν κληρονομίαν Ιακωβ τοῦ πατρός σου· τὸ γὰρ στόμα κυρίου ἐλάλησεν ταῦτα.

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Deu_27:9 WEB Moses and the priests the Levites spoke to all Israel, saying, Keep silence, and listen, Israel: this day you have become the people of Yahweh your God.

Deu_27:9 LB Then Moses and the priests, the Levites, spoke to all Israel, saying, “Be silent and hear, O Israel; this day you have become a people to the Lord your God.

Deu_27:9 Καὶ ἐλάλησεν Μωυσῆς καὶ οἱ ἱερεῖς οἱ Λευῖται παντὶ Ισραηλ λέγοντες Σιώπα καὶ ἄκουε, Ισραηλ· ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ταύτῃ γέγονας εἰς λαὸν κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ σου·

Deu_27:10 WEB You shall therefore obey the voice of Yahweh your God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command you this day.

Deu_27:10 And you shall obey the voice of the Lord your God, and you shall keep all His commandments and His statutes, as many as I command you this day.”

Deu_27:10 καὶ εἰσακούσῃ τῆς φωνῆς κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου καὶ ποιήσεις πάσας τὰς ἐντολὰς αὐτοῦ καὶ τὰ δικαιώματα αὐτοῦ, ὅσα ἐγὼ ἐντέλλομαί σοι σήμερον.

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Proclamation Warfare

agreeing / cooperating with cheating / deception

Arpox

letting a hypocrite Lead You On by questions

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Dismissal

ticket

begging the question by repeating the same old same old

polytheistic / pagan

worldly, indulgent, rich/luxurious

Proclamation Prayer Prep

Proclamation Warfare

Confusion

sorcery / spell / incantations / witchcraft

Conversation hijacking - letting pagans try to leave got along and tell him what to do / what to talk about / direct the conversation

ADD

wanting to be heard

being quick to speak

being in a rush

fear of man

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Isa58:9 LXX

Deu_23:21-23

--- this also goes w SOM vows

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Moses waits to hear...

numbers ? -- Passover

numbers 15 -- Sabbath breaker

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When to Speak

we need to pray and insist that God would always help us verbalize justice as we are morally responsible to do:
4/13/17-4/14/17

Lev_19:17 WEB " 'You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him.

Lev_19:17 LB ‘You shall not hate your brother in your heart: you shall surely rebuke your neighbor, so you shall not bear sin on his account.

Lev_19:17 οὐ μισήσεις τὸν ἀδελφόν σου τῇ διανοίᾳ σου, ἐλεγμῷ ἐλέγξεις τὸν πλησίον σου καὶ οὐ λήμψῃ δι᾿ αὐτὸν ἁμαρτίαν.

Lev_19:18 WEB " 'You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people; but you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am Yahweh.

Lev_19:18 And your hand shall not avenge you; and you shall not be angry with the children of your people; and you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord

Lev_19:18 καὶ οὐκ ἐκδικᾶταί σου ἡ χείρ, καὶ οὐ μηνιεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς τοῦ λαοῦ σου καὶ ἀγαπήσεις τὸν πλησίον σου ὡς σεαυτόν· ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος.

Lev_19:19 WEB " 'You shall keep my statutes. " 'You shall not crossbreed different kinds of animals. " 'you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed; " 'neither shall there come upon on you a garment made of two kinds of material.

Lev_19:19 ‘You shall observe My law: you shall not let your cattle breed with one of a different kind, and you shall not sow your vineyard with diverse seed; and you shall not put upon yourself a mingled garment woven of two materials.

Lev_19:19 Τὸν νόμον μου φυλάξεσθε· τὰ κτήνη σου οὐ κατοχεύσεις ἑτεροζύγῳ καὶ τὸν ἀμπελῶνά σου οὐ κατασπερεῖς διάφορον καὶ ἱμάτιον ἐκ δύο ὑφασμένον κίβδηλον οὐκ ἐπιβαλεῖς σεαυτῷ.

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11/11/16

Hos_7:16 WEB They return, but not to the Most High. They are like a faulty bow. Their princes will fall by the sword for the rage of their tongue. This will be their derision in the land of Egypt.

Hos_7:16 CAB They turned aside to that which is not, they became as a bent bow. Their princes shall fall by the sword, by reason of the unbridled state of their tongue. This is their setting at nought in the land of Egypt.

Hos_7:16 ἀπεστράφησαν εἰς οὐθέν, ἐγένοντο ὡς τόξον ἐντεταμένον· πεσοῦνται ἐν ῥομφαίᾳ οἱ ἄρχοντες αὐτῶν δι᾿ ἀπαιδευσίαν γλώσσης αὐτῶν· οὕτος ὁ φαυλισμὸς αὐτῶν ἐν γῇ Αἰγύπτῳ.

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11/3/16

Most people will not even wait long enough to actually listen and hear and think about what amazing things we have to say about the Bible. I am terrified that this includes you! We could save your soul, but you have not even listened to us long enough to think about the amazing answers of Truth.

Pro_28:9 WEB He who turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.

Pro_28:9 CAB He that turns away his ear from hearing the law, even he has made his prayer abominable.

Pro_28:9 ὁ ἐκκλίνων τὸ οὖς αὐτοῦ τοῦ μὴ εἰσακοῦσαι νόμου καὶ αὐτὸς τὴν προσευχὴν αὐτοῦ ἐβδέλυκται.

10/24/16

Jer_13:9 WEB Thus says Yahweh, After this manner will I mar the pride of Judah, and the great pride of Jerusalem.

Jer_13:9 CAB Thus will I ruin the pride of Judah, and the pride of Jerusalem;

Jer_13:9 Τάδε λέγει κύριος Οὕτω φθερῶ τὴν ὕβριν Ιουδα καὶ τὴν ὕβριν Ιερουσαλημ,

Jer_13:10 This evil people, who refuse to hear my words, who walk in the stubbornness of their heart, and are gone after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this belt, which is profitable for nothing.

Jer_13:10 even this great pride of the men that will not listen to My words, and have gone after strange gods, to serve them, and to worship them. And they shall be as this sash, which is profitable for nothing.

Jer_13:10 τὴν πολλὴν ταύτην ὕβριν, τοὺς μὴ βουλομένους ὑπακούειν τῶν λόγων μου καὶ πορευθέντας ὀπίσω θεῶν ἀλλοτρίων τοῦ δουλεύειν αὐτοῖς καὶ τοῦ προσκυνεῖν αὐτοῖς, καὶ ἔσονται ὥσπερ τὸ περίζωμα τοῦτο, ὃ οὐ χρησθήσεται εἰς οὐθέν.

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10/25/16

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10/25/16

Ecc_6:11 WEB For there are many words that create vanity. What does that profit man?

Ecc_6:11 CAB For there are many things which increase vanity. What advantage has a man?

Ecc_6:11 ὅτι εἰσὶν λόγοι πολλοὶ πληθύνοντες ματαιότητα. τί περισσὸν τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ;

Ecc_10:12 WEB The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious; but a fool is swallowed by his own lips.

Ecc_10:12 CAB The words of a wise mouth are gracious, but the lips of a fool will swallow him up.

Ecc_10:12 λόγοι στόματος σοφοῦ χάρις, καὶ χείλη ἄφρονος καταποντιοῦσιν αὐτόν·

Ecc_10:13 The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness; and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.

Ecc_10:13 The beginning of the words of his mouth is folly, and the end of his talk mischievous madness.

Ecc_10:13 ἀρχὴ λόγων στόματος αὐτοῦ ἀφροσόνη, καὶ ἐσχάτη στόματος αὐτοῦ περιφέρεια πονηρά·

Ecc_10:14 A fool also multiplies words. Man doesn't know what will be; and that which will be after him, who can tell him?

Ecc_10:14 A fool moreover multiplies words. No man knows what has been, nor what will be. Who shall tell him what will come after him?

Ecc_10:14 καὶ ὁ ἄφρων πληθύνει λόγους. οὐκ ἔγνω ὁ ἄνθρωπος τί τὸ γενόμενον, καὶ τί τὸ ἐσόμενον ὀπίσω αὐτοῦ, τίς ἀναγγελεῖ αὐτῷ;

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Pro_16:13 WEB Righteous lips are the delight of kings. They value one who speaks the truth.

Pro_16:13 CAB Righteous lips are acceptable to a king, and he loves right words.

Pro_16:13 δεκτὰ βασιλεῖ χείλη δίκαια, λόγους δὲ ὀρθοὺς ἀγαπᾷ.

Pro_16:27 WEB A worthless man devises mischief. His speech is like a scorching fire.

Pro_16:27 CAB But the perverse bears destruction upon his own mouth: a foolish man digs up evil for himself, and treasures fire on his own lips.

Pro_16:27 ἀνὴρ ἄφρων ὀρύσσει ἑαυτῷ κακά, ἐπὶ δὲ τῶν ἑαυτοῦ χειλέων θησαυρίζει πῦρ.

Pro_17:4 WEB An evildoer heeds wicked lips. A liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue.

Pro_17:4 CAB A bad man listens to the tongue of transgressors, but a righteous man attends not to false lips.

Pro_17:4 κακὸς ὑπακούει γλώσσης παρανόμων, δίκαιος δὲ οὐ προσέχει χείλεσιν ψευδέσιν.

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General Motivations Not to Sin With Your Mouth

10/14/16

Psa_59:12 WEB For the sin of their mouth, and the words of their lips, let them be caught in their pride, for the curses and lies which they utter.

Psa_59:12 CAB For the sin of their mouth, and the word of their lips, let them be even taken in their pride.

Psa_59:12 (58:13) ἁμαρτίαν στόματος αὐτῶν, λόγον χειλέων αὐτῶν, καὶ συλλημφθήτωσαν ἐν τῇ ὑπερηφανίᾳ αὐτῶν· καὶ ἐξ ἀρᾶς καὶ ψεύδους διαγγελήσονται συντέλειαι

10/14/16

Psa_52:2 WEB Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, working deceitfully.

Psa_52:2 CAB your tongue has devised unrighteousness; like a sharpened razor you have worked deceit.

Psa_52:2 (51:4) ἀδικίαν ἐλογίσατο ἡ γλῶσσά σου· ὡσεὶ ξυρὸν ἠκονημένον ἐποίησας δόλον.

Psa_52:3 You love evil more than good, lying rather than speaking the truth. Selah.

Psa_52:3 You have loved wickedness more than goodness; unrighteousness better than to speak righteousness. Pause.

Psa_52:3 (51:5) ἠγάπησας κακίαν ὑπὲρ ἀγαθωσύνην, ἀδικίαν ὑπὲρ τὸ λαλῆσαι δικαιοσύνην. διάψαλμα.

Psa_52:4 You love all devouring words, you deceitful tongue.

Psa_52:4 You have loved all words of destruction, and a deceitful tongue.

Psa_52:4 (51:6) ἠγάπησας πάντα τὰ ῥήματα καταποντισμοῦ, γλῶσσαν δολίαν.

Psa_52:5 God will likewise destroy you forever. He will take you up, and pluck you out of your tent, and root you out of the land of the living. Selah.

Psa_52:5 Therefore may God destroy you forever, may He pluck you up and utterly remove you from your dwelling, and your root from the land of the living. Pause.

Psa_52:5 (51:7) διὰ τοῦτο ὁ θεὸς καθελεῖ σε εἰς τέλος· ἐκτίλαι σε καὶ μεταναστεύσαι σε ἀπὸ σκηνώματος καὶ τὸ ῥίζωμά σου ἐκ γῆς ζώντων. διάψαλμα.

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8/4/16

LXX only:

Pro_17:14 WEB The beginning of strife is like breaching a dam, therefore stop contention before quarreling breaks out.

Pro_17:14 LB Rightful rule gives power to words, but sedition and strife precede poverty.

Pro_17:14 ἐξουσίαν δίδωσιν λόγοις ἀρχὴ δικαιοσύνης, προηγεῖται δὲ τῆς ἐνδείας στάσις καὶ μάχη.

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8/4/16

Pro_18:4 WEB The words of a man's mouth are like deep waters. The fountain of wisdom is like a flowing brook.

Pro_18:4 A word in the heart of a man is a deep water, and a river and fountain of life spring forth.

Pro_18:4 ὕδωρ βαθὺ λόγος ἐν καρδίᾳ ἀνδρός, ποταμὸς δὲ ἀναπηδύει καὶ πηγὴ ζωῆς.

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8/1/16

Pro_11:12 WEB One who despises his neighbor is void of wisdom, but a man of understanding holds his peace.

Pro_11:12 LB A man void of understanding sneers at his fellow citizens, but a sensible man is quiet.

Pro_11:12 μυκτηρίζει πολίτας ἐνδεὴς φρενῶν, ἀνὴρ δὲ φρόνιμος ἡσυχίαν ἄγει.

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Psa_12:2 WEB Everyone lies to [KJV: They speak vanity every one with] his neighbor. They speak with [KJV: with] flattering lips, ·and [KJV: and] with a double heart^{H3820 H3820} [???].

Psa_12:2 LB Everyone has spoken vanity to his neighbor: their lips are deceitful, they have spoken with a double heart.

Psa_12:2 (11:3) μάταια ἐλάλησεν ἕκαστος πρὸς τὸν πλησίον αὐτοῦ, χείλη δόλια ἐν καρδίᾳ καὶ ἐν καρδίᾳ ἐλάλησαν.

Psa_12:3 WEB May Yahweh [KJV: The LORD shall] cut off all flattering lips, and [?] the tongue that boasts [KJV: speaketh^H1696 proud things:^H1419],

Psa_12:3 LB Let the Lord destroy [ἐξολεθρεύσαι] all the deceitful [δόλια] lips, and the tongue ·that speaks great words [μεγαλορήμονα];

Psa_12:3 (11:4) ἐξολεθρεύσαι κύριος πάντα τὰ χείλη τὰ δόλια καὶ γλῶσσαν μεγαλορήμονα

Psa_12:4 WEB who have said, "With our tongue we will prevail. Our lips are our own. Who is lord over us?"

Psa_12:4 LB who have said, “We will magnify our tongue; our lips are our own: who is Lord of us?”

Psa_12:4 (11:5) τοὺς εἰπόντας Τὴν γλῶσσαν ἡμῶν μεγαλυνοῦμεν, τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῶν ἐστιν· τίς ἡμῶν κύριός ἐστιν;

Psa_12:5 WEB "Because of the oppression of the weak [KJV: poor] and [?] because of the groaning [KJV: sighing^{H4480 H603}] of the needy, I will now arise," says Yahweh; "I will set him [?] in safety from those who malign him [KJV: puffeth at him]."
Psa_12:5 LB “Because of the misery [ταλαιπωρίας] of the poor [πτωχῶν], and because of the sighing [στεναγμοῦ] of the needy [πενήτων], now will I arise [ἀναστήσομαι],” says the Lord, “I will set them in safety [σωτηρίᾳ]; I will speak to them openly.”

Psa_12:5 (11:6) Ἀπὸ τῆς ταλαιπωρίας τῶν πτωχῶν καὶ ἀπὸ τοῦ στεναγμοῦ τῶν πενήτων νῦν ἀναστήσομαι, λέγει κύριος, θήσομαι ἐν σωτηρίᾳ, παρρησιάσομαι ἐν αὐτῷ.

Psa_12:6 WEB The words of Yahweh ·are flawless^H2889 [KJV: are pure] words, as [KJV: as] silver refined [KJV: tried] ·in a clay [KJV: earth] furnace^H5948, purified seven times.

Psa_12:6 LB The words of the Lord are pure words; as silver tried in the fire, proved in a furnace on the earth, purified seven times.

Psa_12:6 (11:7) τὰ λόγια κυρίου λόγια ἁγνά, ἀργύριον πεπυρωμένον δοκίμιον τῇ γῇ κεκαθαρισμένον ἑπταπλασίως.

>> Sync: LUX | ROW -- 7.24.18 √

>> Listen!!

>> God only hears the poor

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7/10/16

1Sa_2:3 KJV+ Talk^H1696 no^H408 more^H7235 so exceeding proudly;^{H1364 H1364} let not arrogancy^H6277 come out^H3318 of your mouth:^{H4480 H6310} for^H3588 the LORD^H3068 is a God^H410 of knowledge,^H1844 and by him actions^H5949 are weighed.^H8505

1Sa_2:3 Boast not, and utter not high things; let not high sounding words come out of your mouth, for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and God prepares His own designs.

1Sa_2:3 μὴ καυχᾶσθε καὶ μὴ λαλεῖτε ὑψηλά, μὴ ἐξελθάτω μεγαλορρημοσύνη ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν, ὅτι θεὸς γνώσεων κύριος καὶ θεὸς ἑτοιμάζων ἐπιτηδεύματα αὐτοῦ.

>>Scrip:

Words without knowledge

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7/5/16

Amo_5:13 KJV+ Therefore^H3651 the prudent^H7919 shall keep silence^H1826 in that^H1931 time;^H6256 for^H3588 it^H1931 is an evil^H7451 time.^H6256

Amo_5:13 LB Therefore the prudent shall be silent at that time; for it is a time of evils.

Amo_5:13 διὰ τοῦτο ὁ συνίων ἐν τῷ καιρῷ ἐκείνῳ σιωπήσεται, ὅτι καιρὸς πονηρός ἐστιν.

Amo_8:3 KJV+ And the songs^H7892 of the temple^H1964 shall be howlings^H3213 in that^H1931 day,^H3117 saith^H5002 the Lord^H136 GOD:^H3069 there shall be many^H7227 dead bodies^H6297 in every^H3605 place;^H4725 they shall cast them forth^H7993 with silence.^H2013

Amo_8:3 LB And the ceilings of the temple shall howl in that day,” says the Lord God. “There shall be many a fallen one in every place; I will bring silence upon them.

Amo_8:3 καὶ ὀλολύξει τὰ φατνώματα τοῦ ναοῦ· ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ, λέγει κύριος, πολὺς ὁ πεπτωκὼς ἐν παντὶ τόπῳ, ἐπιρρίψω σιωπήν.

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7/4/16

Eze_22:28 KJV+ And her prophets^H5030 have daubed^H2902 them with untempered^H8602 morter, seeing^H2374 vanity,^H7723 and divining^H7080 lies^H3577 unto them, saying,^H559 Thus^H3541 saith^H559 the Lord^H136 GOD,^H3069 when the LORD^H3068 hath not^H3808 spoken.^H1696

Eze_22:28 And her prophets that daub them shall fall, that see vanities, that prophesy falsehoods, saying, “Thus says the Lord,” when the Lord has not spoken;

Eze_22:28 καὶ οἱ προφῆται αὐτῆς ἀλείφοντες αὐτοὺς πεσοῦνται, ὁρῶντες μάταια, μαντευόμενοι ψευδῆ, λέγοντες Τάδε λέγει κύριος, καὶ κύριος οὐ λελάληκεν·

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6/29/16

Pro_19:1 WEB Better is the poor who walks in his integrity than he who is perverse in his lips and is a fool.

Pro_19:1 LB (This verse omitted in LXX)

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6/28/16

Psa_107:41 KJV+ Yet setteth he the poor on high^{H7682 H34} from affliction,^{H4480 H6040} and maketh^H7760 him families^H4940 like a flock.^H6629

Psa_107:41 But He helps the poor out of poverty, and makes him families as a flock.

Psa_107:41 (106:41) καὶ ἐβοήθησεν πένητι ἐκ πτωχείας καὶ ἔθετο ὡς πρόβατα πατριάς.

Psa_107:42 KJV+ The righteous^H3477 shall see^H7200 it, and rejoice:^H8055 and all^H3605 iniquity^H5766 shall stop^H7092 her mouth.^H6310

Psa_107:42 The upright shall see and rejoice; and all iniquity shall stop her mouth.

Psa_107:42 (106:42) ὄψονται εὐθεῖς καὶ εὐφρανθήσονται, καὶ πᾶσα ἀνομία ἐμφράξει τὸ στόμα αὐτῆς.

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6/24/16

Psa_12:3 KJV+ The LORD^H3068 shall cut off^H3772 all^H3605 flattering^H2513 lips,^H8193 and the tongue^H3956 that speaketh^H1696 proud things:^H1419

Psa_12:3 Let the Lord destroy all the deceitful lips, and the tongue that speaks great words;

Psa_12:3 (11:4) ἐξολεθρεύσαι κύριος πάντα τὰ χείλη τὰ δόλια καὶ γλῶσσαν μεγαλορήμονα

Psa_12:4 KJV+ Who^H834 have said,^H559 With our tongue^H3956 will we prevail;^H1396 our lips^H8193 are our own: who^H4310 is lord^H113 over us?

Psa_12:4 who have said, “We will magnify our tongue; our lips are our own: who is Lord of us?”

Psa_12:4 (11:5) τοὺς εἰπόντας Τὴν γλῶσσαν ἡμῶν μεγαλυνοῦμεν, τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῶν ἐστιν· τίς ἡμῶν κύριός ἐστιν;

Psa_12:6 KJV+ The words^H565 of the LORD^H3068 are pure^H2889 words:^H565 as silver^H3701 tried^H6884 in a furnace^H5948 of earth,^H776 purified^H2212 seven^H7659 times.

Psa_12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words; as silver tried in the fire, proved in a furnace on the earth, purified seven times.

Psa_12:6 (11:7) τὰ λόγια κυρίου λόγια ἁγνά, ἀργύριον πεπυρωμένον δοκίμιον τῇ γῇ κεκαθαρισμένον ἑπταπλασίως.

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Pro_18:20 KJV+ A man's^H376 belly^H990 shall be satisfied^H7646 with the fruit^{H4480 H6529} of his mouth;^H6310 and with the increase^H8393 of his lips^H8193 shall he be filled.^H7646

Pro_18:20 LB A man fills his belly with the fruits of his mouth, and he shall be satisfied with the fruits of his lips.

Pro_18:20 ἀπὸ καρπῶν στόματος ἀνὴρ πίμπλησιν κοιλίαν αὐτοῦ, ἀπὸ δὲ καρπῶν χειλέων αὐτοῦ ἐμπλησθήσεται.

Pro_18:21 KJV+ Death^H4194 and life^H2416 are in the power^H3027 of the tongue:^H3956 and they that love^H157 it shall eat^H398 the fruit^H6529 thereof.

Pro_18:21 Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and they that rule it shall eat the fruits thereof.

Pro_18:21 θάνατος καὶ ζωὴ ἐν χειρὶ γλώσσης, οἱ δὲ κρατοῦντες αὐτῆς ἔδονται τοὺς καρποὺς αὐτῆς.

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Logical-Rational Rules of Thumb for Fixing Repeated Communication Problems

5/22/16

Cooperative Communication

Whoever initiates/starts a conversation has the prerogative to dictate what the goals of that dialog are.

The second communicator does not inherently have the right or authority to change the goals of the conversation, but should strive to defend the originator’s goals even more than the presedent is supposed to defend the constitution.

In an ideal situation, supposing the initiator has a logical wherewithal when starting to talk, then the responder should resolve all levelheadedness and saved mindedness with these ideals/priorities:

·What is the first speaker actually saying? -- if this rule cannot be used, then this may need to be more of an authoritative/instructional communication

·What is the speaker’s context?

·What do they want as a goal -- should ideally be clear in what they say

Authoritative/Instructional Communication

Ideally reserved for a discipler or other authority over a disciple.

If the (of age) disciple has not indicated a willingness and agreement to learn, then this posture should almost never be assumed by the potential authority.

Competitive non-Communication

The servant of the Lord is not allowed to play games and act like they are communicating while actually competing.

To avoid this, the servant of truth is to stop up a fool’s mouth with judgment.

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5/21/16

People think they have achieved something / grown mature when they are able tell other people how they feel.

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4/20/16

Gen_27: -- Jacob cannot take back his blessing

words are so serious, that they cannot be taken back

This proves that the Bible is fundamentally conservative.

You will observe all the word that proceed out of your mouth.

Jephtha had to offer up his daughter…

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4/16/16

circumscized lips & heart

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Hearing Comprehension

Hearing Listening Reading Comprehension

>> communication changes!

Comp.: When To Interrupt

1/24/16; 3/24/17

Leviticus 8 – Don’t Leave the Door of The Tabernacle, Lest You Die

3/23/17

Lev_8:33 WEB You shall not go out from the door of the Tent of Meeting seven days, until the days of your consecration are fulfilled: for he shall consecrate you seven days.

Lev_8:33 LB And you shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of witness for seven days, until the day be fulfilled, the day of your consecration; for in seven days shall he consecrate you,

Lev_8:33 καὶ ἀπὸ τῆς θύρας τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου οὐκ ἐξελεύσεσθε ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας, ἕως ἡμέρα πληρωθῇ, ἡμέρα τελειώσεως ὑμῶν· ἑπτὰ γὰρ ἡμέρας τελειώσει τὰς χεῖρας ὑμῶν.

Lev_8:34 WEB What has been done this day, so Yahweh has commanded to do, to make atonement for you.

Lev_8:34 as he did in this day on which the Lord commanded me to do so, to make an atonement for you.

Lev_8:34 καθάπερ ἐποίησεν ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ταύτῃ, ἐνετείλατο κύριος τοῦ ποιῆσαι ὥστε ἐξιλάσασθαι περὶ ὑμῶν.

Lev_8:35 WEB You shall stay at the door of the Tent of Meeting day and night seven days, and keep Yahweh's command, that you don't die: for so I am commanded."

Lev_8:35 And you shall remain seven days at the door of the tabernacle of witness, day and night; you shall observe the ordinances of the Lord, so that you do not die; for so has the Lord God commanded me.”

Lev_8:35 καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν θύραν τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου καθήσεσθε ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας ἡμέραν καὶ νύκτα· φυλάξεσθε τὰ φυλάγματα κυρίου, ἵνα μὴ ἀποθάνητε· οὕτως γὰρ ἐνετείλατό μοι κύριος ὁ θεός.

Lev_8:36 WEB Aaron and his sons did all the things which Yahweh commanded by Moses.

Lev_8:36 And Aaron and his sons performed all these commands which the Lord commanded Moses.

Lev_8:36 καὶ ἐποίησεν Ααρων καὶ οἱ υἱοὶ αὐτοῦ πάντας τοὺς λόγους, οὓς συνέταξεν κύριος τῷ Μωυσῇ.

>> Sync: Pr! | SCF | ROW > Hearing Comprehension

If you do not hear correctly, you can easily die.

Whoever hears these words and does them… -- GOT to comprehend hearing and doing

Good ground is those who hear the word and understand it and bear fruit!

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Who Gets to “Follow Their Own Heart”?

12/11/15-12/12/15

MT: deceitful

The poison of Asps is under their lips

Tongue full of deadly poison << out of the heart the mouth speaks

Samuel to Saul – do what is in your heart

Nathan to David – do what is in your heart

Eze_18: & 33 – Get a new heart & a new spirit

In light of Saul & David, can we say:

Don’t follow your default heart, but only follow a new heart, if indeed you have it.

Only follow Divinity, if it is indeed in you.

So you quickly and confidently praise your own heart as new…

Well then, when was the last time you were wrong?

When was the last time you misunderstood something?

If I read the Bible to you, would you truly understand it’s mysteries, or would you have fallible interpretations of men that is just your own opinion subject to the possibility of error?

If your heart has ever made a mistake, this is that imperfect and deceitful heart of evil which you cannot trust to tell you if you are true.

Sir_37:12 But be continually with a godly man, whom thou knowest to keep the commandments of the Lord, whose, mind is according to thy mind, and will sorrow with thee, if thou shalt miscarry.

Sir_37:12 ἀλλ᾿ ἢ μετὰ ἀνδρὸς εὐσεβοῦς ἐνδελέχιζε, ὃν ἂν ἐπιγνῷς συντηροῦντα ἐντολάς, ὃς ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ αὐτοῦ κατὰ τὴν ψυχήν σου, καὶ ἐὰν πταίσῃς, συναλγήσει σοι.

Sir_37:14 And let the counsel of thine own heart stand: for there is no man more faithful unto thee than it.

Sir_37:13 καὶ βουλὴν καρδίας στῆσον, οὐ γὰρ ἔστιν σοι πιστότερος αὐτῆς·

Sir_37:14 For a man's mind is sometime wont to tell him more than seven watchmen, that sit above in an high tower.

Sir_37:14 ψυχὴ γὰρ ἀνδρὸς ἀπαγγέλλειν ἐνίοτε εἴωθεν ἢ ἑπτὰ σκοποὶ ἐπὶ μετεώρου καθήμενοι ἐπὶ σκοπῆς.

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12 Instead, associate with a religious man,

who you are sure keeps the commandments;

who is like-minded with yourself and will feel for you if you fall.

13 Then, too, heed8 your own heart’s counsel;

for what have you that you can depend on more?

14 A man’s conscience can tell him his situation

better than seven watchmen in a lofty tower.

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Don't Assume

Sir_11:7

Sir_19:17

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4/3/15

End times ends up w a little mouth speaking blasphemous

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Psa 39

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12/12/14

mat6 do not pray like the nations.... Many words

There is a consistent folly in pagans that fervantly believes that doing the abominable filthy selfish things that they lust after also pleases their gods. But monotheism is not pleased by the indulgent lusts you love and are acustomed to, but demands that you instead hate your soul, deny your selfish ride and fleshly stregth and prefer crucifiying your foolish and worthless self rather tham boasting in it and expressing your satanic heart.

Notice that in the case of prayer, not even the jewish hypocrites where so foolish as t multiply their words in prayer, but instead it was the reputation of pagan gentiles who were seeking a demonic connection wiith satan that spoke so many words. This proves that our cultures are not even externally monotheistic in their practices, because we are worse than foolish and ignorant gentiles...

> got to revise this and make it more complete...

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12/5/14

Get recent al notes?

Don't delight in dumping - delight in hearing

And don't believe your own arguments when you vent

And don't vent irrelevantly

Make your words concise

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Only Favor-Building Words! Eph, judged for all non-working words

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Observe Your Words

11/27/13

Deu_23:21-23 CAB And if you will vow a vow to the Lord your God, you shall not delay to pay it; for the Lord your God will surely require it of you, and otherwise it shall be sin to you. 22 But if you should be unwilling to vow, it is not sin to you. 23 You shall observe the words that proceed from between your lips; and as you have vowed a gift to the Lord God, so shall you do that which you have spoken with your mouth.

Deu_23:21-23 Greek (23:22) Ἐὰם הὲ וὔמῃ וὐקὴם ךץסίῳ פῷ טוῷ ףןץ, ןὐ קסןםיוῖע ἀנןהןῦםבי בὐפήם, ὅפי ἐךזחפῶם ἐךזחפήףוי ךύסיןע ὁ טוόע ףןץ נבסὰ ףןῦ, ךבὶ ἔףפבי ἐם ףןὶ ἁלבסίב· 22 (23:23) ἐὰם הὲ לὴ טέכῃע וὔמבףטבי, ןὐך ἔףפים ἐם ףןὶ ἁלבספίב. 23 (23:24) פὰ ἐךנןסוץόלוםב היὰ פῶם קויכέשם ףןץ צץכάמῃ ךבὶ נןיήףויע ὃם פסόנןם וὔמש ךץסίῳ פῷ טוῷ ףןץ הόלב, ὃ ἐכάכחףבע פῷ ףפόלבפί ףןץ.

place your hand over your mouth

10/7/13

Job_40:1-5 WEB Moreover Yahweh answered Job, 2 "Shall he who argues contend with the Almighty? He who argues with God, let him answer it." 3 Then Job answered Yahweh, 4 "Behold, I am of small account. What shall I answer you? I lay my hand on my mouth. 5 I have spoken once, and I will not answer; Yes, twice, but I will proceed no further."

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Job_40:1-5 CAB (39:31) And the Lord God answered Job and said, 2 (39:32) Will anyone pervert judgment with the Mighty One? And he that reproves God, let him answer it. 3 (39:33) And Job answered and said to the Lord, 4 (39:34) Why do I yet plead? Being rebuked even while reproving the Lord: hearing such things, whereas I am nothing: and what shall I answer to these arguments? I will lay my hand upon my mouth. 5 (39:35) I have spoken once, but I will not do so a second time.

Job_42:1-6 WEB Then Job answered Yahweh, 2 "I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be restrained. 3 You asked, 'Who is this who hides counsel without knowledge?' therefore I have uttered that which I did not understand, things too wonderful for me, which I didn't know. 4 You said, 'Listen, now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you will answer me.' 5 I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you. 6 Therefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes."

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Job_42:1-6 CAB Then Job answered and said to the Lord, 2 I know that You can do all things, and nothing is impossible with You. 3 For who is he that hides counsel from You? Or who keeps back his words, and thinks to hide them from You? And who will tell me what I knew not, great and wonderful things which I understood not? 4 But hear me, O Lord, that I also may speak: and I will ask You, and You shall teach me. 5 I have heard the report of You by the ear before; but now my eye has seen You. 6 Therefore I have counted myself vile, and have fainted: and I esteem myself dust and ashes.

Jer_2:37 CAB For you shall go forth from here also with your hands upon your head; for the Lord has rejected your hope, and you shall not prosper in it.

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8/29/13

speaking words that "break" justice, sanity, healthiness, and morality

"Strongs #1327: AHLB#: 1032-A (N1)

1032) Ub% (Ub% BTh) ac: ? co: Cracks ab: ?: Something that is broken up into pieces.

A) Ub% (Ub% BTh) ac: ? co: Cracks ab: ?: The crevices, clefts and cracks in rock cliffs and outcroppings. Something that is broken into pieces. A place of desolation.

Nf1) Eub% (Eub% B-ThH) - Desolation: [df: htb] [freq. 2] |kjv: waste, desolate| {str: 1326, 1327}

E) Aub% (Aub% BThA) ac: ? co: Utter ab: ?: An incoherent, broken or rash utterance of words usually spoken as a vow.

V) Aub% (Aub% B-ThA) - Utter: [df: hjb] [freq. 4] (vf: Paal, Piel) |kjv: pronounce, speak unadvisedly| {str: 981}

hm) Aubm% (Aubm% MB-ThA) - Utterance: Words spoken out of rashness. [freq. 2] |kjv: uttered| {str: 4008}..."

Quote:..."...The habit of careless, nonsensical talking, is greatly averse to the government of the tongue. It accustoms it to speak at random, without regard to consequences. It often leads to the utterance of what is not strictly true, and thus insensibly diminishes the regard for truth. It hardens the heart, and nourishes a trifling, careless spirit. Moreover, if you indulge this habit, your conversation will soon become silly and insipid...".

Quote:..."...Many people open their mouths, and set their tongues a-going like the clapper of a wind-mill, as though the object was, to see how many words could be uttered in a given time, without any regard to their quality—whether sense or nonsense, whether good, bad, or indifferent. A tongue, trained up in this way, will never be governed, and must become a source of great mischief. But accustom yourself, before you speak, to consider whether what you are going to say is worth speaking, or whether it can do any mischief. If you cultivate this habit, your mind will speedily acquire an activity, that will enable you to make this consideration without waiting so long before answering your companions as to be observed; and it will impose a salutary restraint upon your loquacity; for you will find others often taking the lead of conversation instead of yourself, by seizing upon the pause that is made by your consideration. This will be an advantage to you, in two ways. It will give you something better to say, and will diminish the quantity. You will soon perceive that, though you say less than some of your companions, your words have more weight...".

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6/30/13; 7/3/13-7/4/13

do not 'think out loud'

Sir 4/5-ish, esp: - corporately, - on emotional topics that are likely to reek havoc

Pro_29:20 CAB If you see a man hasty in his words, know that the fool has hope rather than he.

>> !Add:

Pro_29:11 WEB A fool vents all of his anger, but a wise man brings himself under control.

Pro_29:11 A fool shows all his mind, but the wise reserves his in part.

Pro_29:11 ὅλον τὸν θυμὸν αὐτοῦ ἐκφέρει ἄφρων, σοφὸς δὲ ταμιεύεται κατὰ μέρος.

Pro_17:27-28 CAB He that forbears to utter a hard word is discreet, and a patient man is wise. 28 Wisdom shall be imputed to a fool who asks after wisdom, and he who holds his peace shall seem to be sensible.

>>! fool delights in discovering his own heart

7/9/13

Mat_6: – they think they will be heard by their many words...

Ironically, indulgent pagans think that God actually wants the most nausiating and disgusting things about them. They do evil and please themselves, and always conveniently think that their selish crimes are what their gods want to make them happy.

when are we going to finally learn that selfishness is a child's lust, and when are we going to finally grow up and stop thinking that by being evil good is pleased?

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6/24/13

find: “circumsize your lips” / mouth

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No chapter break should be here…

Sir_7:36 Brenton Whatsoever thou takest in hand [ἐν πᾶσι τοῖς λόγοις σου], remember the end, and thou shalt never do amiss [εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα οὐχ ἁμαρτήσεις].

Sir_8:1-3 Brenton Strive [διαμάχου] not with a mighty [δυνάστου] man' lest thou fall into his hands. 2 Be not at variance with a rich man, lest he overweigh thee: for gold hath destroyed many, and perverted the hearts of kings. 3 Strive [διαμάχου] not with a man that is full of tongue [γλωσσώδους], and heap not wood upon his fire.

Sir_8:1-3 Greek Μὴ διαμάχου μετὰ ἀνθρώπου δυνάστου, μήποτε ἐμπέσῃς εἰς τὰς χεῖρας αὐτοῦ. 2 μὴ ἔριζε μετὰ ἀνθρώπου πλουσίου, μήποτε ἀντιστήσῃ σου τὴν ὁλκήν· πολλοὺς γὰρ ἀπώλεσεν τὸ χρυσίον καὶ καρδίας βασιλέων ἐξέκλινεν. 3 μὴ διαμάχου μετὰ ἀνθρώπου γλωσσώδους καὶ μὴ ἐπιστοιβάσῃς ἐπὶ τὸ πῦρ αὐτοῦ ξύλα.

> update: llo - Arpox

8/10/13

Sir_9:14-18 Brenton As near as thou canst, guess at thy neighbour, and consult with the wise. 15 Let thy talk be with the wise, and all thy communication in the law of the most High. 16 And let just men eat and drink with thee; and let thy glorying be in the fear of the Lord. 17 For the hand of the artificer the work shall be commended: and the wise ruler of the people for his speech. 18 A man of an ill tongue is dangerous in his city; and he that is rash in his talk shall be hated.

Sir_9:14-18 Greek κατὰ τὴν ἰσχύν σου στόχασαι τοὺς πλησίον καὶ μετὰ σοφῶν συμβουλεύου. 15 μετὰ συνετῶν ἔστω ὁ διαλογισμός σου καὶ πᾶσα διήγησίς σου ἐν νόμῳ ὑψίστου. 16 ἄνδρες δίκαιοι ἔστωσαν σύνδειπνοί σου, καὶ ἐν φόβῳ κυρίου ἔστω τὸ καύχημά σου. 17 ἐν χειρὶ τεχνιτῶν ἔργον ἐπαινεσθήσεται, καὶ ὁ ἡγούμενος λαοῦ σοφὸς ἐν λόγῳ αὐτοῦ. 18 φοβερὸς ἐν πόλει αὐτοῦ ἀνὴρ γλωσσώδης, καὶ ὁ προπετὴς ἐν λόγῳ αὐτοῦ μισηθήσεται.

> ROW/ Judge CH

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complaining before its explained -- answering a word before you even hear it

psychology of the adult learner

6/26/13

Sir_1 – Several Versions

Sir_1:23-24 Brenton

23

Until the right time a patient person will

restrain himself,

and afterwards gladness will pay him

back.

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Until the right time he will hide his words,

and the lips of many will tell of his

discernment

Sir_1:23-25 Brenton A patient man will tear for a time, and afterward joy shall spring up unto him. 24 He will hide his words for a time, and the lips of many shall declare his wisdom. 25 The parables of knowledge are in the treasures of wisdom: but godliness is an abomination to a sinner.

Sir_1:29-30 CPDV Those who are patient will suffer for a brief time, and afterwards, happiness will return. 30 A noble mind will hide his words for a brief time, and then the lips of many will declare his understanding.

Sir_1:29-30 DRB 29 A patient man shall bear for a time, and afterwards joy shall be restored to him. 29 A patient man shall bear for a time, and afterwards joy shall be restored to him. 30 A good understanding will hide his words for a time, and the lips of many shall declare his wisdom.

Sir_1:29-30 Brenton Be not an hypocrite in the sight of men, and take good heed what thou speakest. 30 Exalt not thyself, lest thou fall, and bring dishonour upon thy soul, and so God discover thy secrets, and cast thee down in the midst of the congregation, because thou camest not in truth to the fear of the Lord, but thy heart is full of deceit.

Times For The Wise to Speak

Sir_4:23-30 Brenton *And refrain not to speak, when there is occasion to do good, [* LOTS of textual problems… (see NRSV?); NETS – looks like it applies to someone else…] [and hide not thy wisdom in her beauty.] [included in Gr, Heb, Syr, Lat; this is only omitted by some Gr MSS] 24 For by speech wisdom shall be known: and learning by the word of the tongue. 25 In no wise speak against the truth; but be abashed of the error of thine ignorance. 26 Be not ashamed to confess thy sins; and force not the course of the river. 27 Make not thyself an underling to a foolish man; neither accept the person of the mighty. 28 Strive for the truth unto death, and the Lord shall fight for thee. 29 Be not hasty in thy tongue, and in thy deeds slack and remiss. 30 Be not as a lion in thy house, nor frantick among thy servants.

Competence Condemned

7/10/13

Sir_5:1-3 Brenton Set thy heart upon thy goods; and say not, I have enough for my life. 2 Follow not thine own mind [soul] and thy strength, to walk in the ways of thy heart: 3 And say not, Who shall control me for my works? for the Lord will surely revenge thy pride.

Don’t Think Out Loud

7/10/13

Sir_5:9-6:6 Brenton Winnow not with every wind, and go not into every way: for so doth the sinner that hath a double tongue. 10 Be stedfast in thy understanding; and let thy word be the same. 11 Be swift to hear; and let thy life be sincere; and with patience give answer. 12 If thou hast understanding, answer thy neighbour; if not, lay thy hand upon thy mouth. 13 Honour and shame is in talk: and the tongue of man is his fall. 14 Be not called a whisperer, and lie not in wait with thy tongue: for a foul shame is upon the thief, and an evil condemnation upon the double tongue. 15 Be not ignorant of any thing in a great matter or a small. 6:1 Instead of a friend become not an enemy; for thereby thou shalt inherit an ill name, shame, and reproach: even so shall a sinner that hath a double tongue. 2 Extol not thyself in the counsel of thine own heart; that thy soul be not torn in pieces as a bull straying alone. 3 Thou shalt eat up thy leaves, and lose thy fruit, and leave thyself as a dry tree. 4 A wicked soul shall destroy him that hath it, and shall make him to be laughed to scorn of his enemies. 5 Sweet language will multiply friends: and a fairspeaking tongue will increase kind greetings. 6 Be in peace with many: nevertheless have but one counsellor of a thousand.

Sir_5:9 Greek μὴ λίκμα ἐν παντὶ ἀνέμῳ καὶ μὴ πορεύου ἐν πάσῃ ἀτραπῷ· οὕτως ὁ ἁμαρτωλὸς ὁ δίγλωσσος.

Sir_6:33 Brenton If thou love to hear, thou shalt receive understanding: and if thou bow thine ear, thou shalt be wise,

do not Express yourself, die to yourself!

4/8/13

- do not ever communicate to get something off your chest to those who do not care about your heart.

- every evil person considers it a "good" conversation when they get to say what they feel, but every oppressed person who listens in pain as they are ignored receive a bitter and evil conversation.

- many people think a talk is "good" when they are personally gratified by getting to say what they feel, even if the other person left discouraged without being heard.

- people will boast that they had a good conversation when they did all the talking. But that was not a conversation, that was a filthy and selfish monolog.

- strong people care more about dictating their own thoughts than actually caring about the well-being of their victems.

- truth cares about a mutual basis for two way communication, but fools talk over other people so they can feel better.

- do not be happy when *you* get to say your part (this is excedingly evil) but get happy if *they* are truly helped in faith to conform toward truth

3/18/13

comprehending much in few words! -- crucify spotlight lust!

2/25/13

The Only Times to 'Interrupt'

only times to 'interrupt' is intolerance of mindless heresy. Not to compete in communication or wordfight (as paul tells Timothy not to do w such heretics... but Paul says to reject a heretic man, and don't play the word-fighting games... cut off his heresy; stop up his mouth with condemnation and rejection, refusing to engage in their shamful games any longer. The only time to 'interrupt' is when you are ending their social crimes and refusing to hear the rebellion they build on mindlessness. not to make another counter point, but to sharply end all cordial comunication.

Jesus commended churches for not tollerating evil, and rebuked those who tolerated Jezabelle.

The only time to 'interrupt' is when it is sinful and defiling to continue hearing and tollerating lawless speakers.

No wicked thing before eyes

Stop up ears.

Not for avoiding personal, horizontal offense, and not when it is for the sake of avoiding our own personal incrimination, but when people are irreverent toward the authority above.

Not to refuse to hear a mindful appeal that is plausibly worth considering, but to stop overt foolishness and rediculousness when perverts glorify disobedience and incite lawlesness, foolhearty lust, rebellion, personal soul worship, Bible disobdience.

2/20/13

Deadly Declarations!

- i am "here" spiritually,

- i am not tempted by that,

- this person/ or this thing/ principle is right/ wrong

- do not assert things, because you are not established yet in what you ought to know

2/11/13

quickly answering a word, means an irrevrent impulse that refuses to be taught or even give room to the possibility the god may seek to communicate something to you within the words that you are not taking that seriously

How To Be A Lost, Zealous, Hard-Core Person

·do a lot of talking

·be very confident

·be convinced that you have found the answer, and be completly and en th ousi as tic a lly satisfie d with it, no matter how natural and fleshly it is

·always be very confident and never question if you have been approved by God nor waite around to hear his approval

·be quick to assume your own approval, and never let anything get in the way or slow down your confidence.

·dont be emotionally weak so as to need God s affirmation at every moment to function, because then you may stall when there is a chance to talk

·spend more time in the morning thinking of answers to arguments and reading than in actual prayer and emotionally needing to actually get some where with God -this is one of your surest ways to go to hell-

·be attracted to your own soul

·trust in your own sincerity

·make sure you dominate the conversation at all times so that you do not ever have to practice self controle or deny yourself when you can find time to talk

·always have something to say about every thing so that you can indulge in the lust of talking and pass it off as proclaiming truth and being anointed by God to talk.

·never value anyone elses heart but your own , because caring enough to search out where someone else is and who they are takes all of the focus off of your own mouth and diminishes your confidence in believing that people always need to be listening to you

·never spend too much time emotionally listening to others because really knowing people confer s too much value on them and makes it seem like listening to them is more valuable than them hearing you talk.

you dont want them or yourself to think that they ever have anything better to say than you do, because it is alway s time for you to talk

Jas Summaries

1 - Slow to speak

Set apart fithyness

Receive with meakness

But be doers of the word… not just hearer

Do not bridle tongue (end)

3 tongue

(Chapter 4 – beginning)

5 don’t swear

Add:

People speak so much because they get a certin satisfaction from it, this is lustful indulgence, because it is not self denying.

Many people speak about religious things because they get a personal satisfaction from it, and are not living in self-denyal. Many people even talk harshly against others with many conspiracy theories and beloved philosophies, but this is self serving and self gratifying. It is not sacrificial, but an indulging of the god of their own belly.

Why should we do this Bible study? It is not so we will say what we all already know and believe, but that we listen intently for spiritual truth to challenge us to examine what we think “we all already know and believe.”

- At the beginning we are not talking about good words just yet, but about identifying the sinful words we tend toward, and charging us to repent of them.

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7/12/12

Nah_2:13 CAB Behold, I am against you, says the Lord Almighty, and I will burn up your multitude in the smoke, and the sword shall devour your lions; and I will utterly destroy your prey from off the land, and *your deeds [* MT: “the voice of your messengers” (WEB)] shall be heard of no more.

Only speak when you are required (“bound” by God) to speak

Isa_50:4 CAB The Lord, even God, gives me the tongue of instruction, to know when it is fit to speak a word; He has appointed for me early, He has given me an ear to hear;

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Same word as in:

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Tit_1:10-13 CAB For there are also many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 whom it is necessary to shut their mouths, who overturn whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 There said a certain one of them, a prophet of their own, "Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle gluttons." 13 This testimony is true; for which cause rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,

>> you will never again open your mouth

>> when God punishes evil people for injustice, the righteous do not cast in their fool-heart opinion and commentary on the situation, but it says…

Amo_5:13-14 CAB Therefore the prudent shall be silent at that time; for it is a time of evils. 14 Seek good, and not evil, that you may live; and so the Lord God Almighty shall be with you, as you have said,

– this might go good with facebook & blogs

>> no gossip – see: privacy policy

>> No Hearsay (fables)

There was a time when Europeans thought that Elephants had no knees, and this was quickly repeated and no one thought that it was necessary to go and look at an elephant before quickly turning around and repeating this myth as fact in books and publications.

But the Bible has been speaking against this all along.

This is the same as gossip, except you are not talking about a person, yet you are still repeating unconfirmed information which is the same integrity breach that makes people gossip.

Just because you heard someone else say it does not mean that you have been commissioned with this ‘quick knowledge’ to go and spread it to others

11/7/11

Understanding = Calm spirit

Cheap shots...

Jesus frequently did not answer people

- man with possessed daughter

- woman taken in adultery (Joh 8)

- two blind men

- Moc trial (already listed

- He did not open His mouth (Isa 52/ 53)

Compare

- woman at the well

- some discussions with Pharisees

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Even the apostate Jews at the end of the book of Acts listened to Paul before rejecting the truth. Today's generations are so entrenched in obstenant foolishness that we won't even stop to hear something before we pridefully and confidently think we know enough to reject it. We are not quicker learners than the ancients. Historically speaking, we are obviously degrading in our thought capacity. We have no right to be quicker to answer in our lazy and mindless age than the ancients who knew far more than we do.

The apostate Jews of Paul's day had more integrity and honor than virtually all the pastors today have, because we will not so much has have enough honor and humiility to stop to listen to a word before foolishly answering and rejecting it.

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No ones blood will be on my hands who stubornly continues to talk and refuses to repent of words

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In our culture we are all like rude radio show hosts who pretend to extend honor when inviting guests onto our show, only to rudely cut them short of answering by demanding short quick and stimulating answers. Anything is slower than what our entertainment crimes are used to are quickly disrespected and set aside for more fast-passed entertainment and stimulation.

this rude mockery of communication is wicked and needs repentance to live.

>> When to end philubustering

- Moses said to stop up ears and don’t listen to false prophet

- Psa – ‘stops up his ears from hearing of blood’

There are times to ‘stop up the [sinning] mouth’ of a philabuster and to ‘not hear such a one’ any more, *but we need to realize that this is *after* we have heard what he represents and even more so we need to realize that this is the last resort when it has come to the point of needing to “reject” such a one.

>> Darkens my council ... Words without knowledge

>> What does it look like to finally repent of words?

...then you will be ashamed and never again open your mouth...

>> I might want to move Jesus’ Silence into this bbs

>> do I have the filibuster ref ( he who hears him will listen to no end...)

>> Isa_50:4 – in season means it is not the default

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster

>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/filibuster

Isa_6:5-8 CAB And I said, Woe is me, for I am pricked to the heart; for being a man, and having unclean lips, I dwell in the midst of a people having unclean lips; and I have seen with my eyes the King, the Lord of hosts. 6 Then one of the seraphim was sent to me, and he had in his hand a coal which he had taken off the altar with the tongs; 7 and he touched my mouth and said, Behold, this has touched your lips, and will take away your iniquities, and will purge off your sins. 8 And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go to this people? And I said, behold, I am here, send me. And He said, Go, and say to this people,

- Mouth cleaning before commissioning

- But we just want to go out and speak and do not care that we are still defiled… it proves that we must not have seen God at all if we are willing to do this