Family Commands

Gods Commands For the Family

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

1/9/2004; 10/21/07; 7/10/08; 10/27/08; 1/27/10; (10/10/11); 3/2/12; 6/3/13; 3/10/17-3/14/17

 

Part of a 3-Part Series: (1) Family Commands; (2) Submission; (3) Biblical Bowing

 

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Complete Table of Contents

Introduction. 1

Husbands and Wives. 1

The Profound Mystery of Marriage. 1

Pastor 2

Deacons. 2

The Courageous Wife, Suffering Under a Lost Husband. 2

Children. 3

Children in General 3

Lots of Children Are a Blessing. 3

Children From Reproach to Reward. 4

Also Consider The Blessing of Celibacy. 4

Labor & Delivery Verses Verses for Women to be Saved Through Labor 4

Punishment of Children. 6

Coming of Age / Bar Mitzvah. 7

Requirements for Boys to Become Men. 7

Autonomous Responsibility & Authority. 8

Jesus Observed Bar Mitzvah. 8

Jesus and His Mother 8

Solomon and His Mother 8

Grown Sons Had a Choice. 8

Extended Obedience to Parents. 8

Abortion is Murder. 10

Abortion Linked With Idolatry. 10

 

Introduction

This Bible study is the main resource that I use for couples who need marriage help, and it goes well with the "Submission" Bible Study in exhorting and helping couples fight for Biblical families.   [Premarital couples: See Official Premarital Bible Study (below) for powerful Truth in pursuing purity]. When you add the Divorce and Remarriage teaching to this, it becomes even more helpful in propelling you to fight for your first marriage because God Himself defends it, makes it permanent for life no matter what, and shows that remarriage is never an option apart from death.

 

Husbands and Wives

 

The Profound Mystery of Marriage

Eph_5:22-33 EMTV Wives, subject yourselves to your own husbands, as to the Lord, 23 because the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 But just as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives be to their own husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your own wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 in order that He might sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he that loves his own wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as also the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak in reference to Christ and to the church. 33 Nevertheless you also individually, let each one love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respect her husband.

Eph_6:1-4 EMTV Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with a promise: 3 "that it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth." 4 And fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and admonition of the Lord 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies.

 

Col_3:16-21 WEB Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly; in all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your heart to the Lord. 17 Whatever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father, through him. 18 Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives, and don't be bitter against them. 20 Children, obey your parents in all things, for this pleases the Lord. 21 Fathers, don't provoke your children, so that they won't be discouraged.

 

Tit_2:4-5 EMTV so that they may urge the young women to be lovers of their husbands, lovers of their children, 5 temperate, pure, homemakers, good, submitting to their own husbands, lest the word of God be blasphemed.

 

Pastor

1Ti_3:4-5 EMTV one ruling his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence; 5 (for if one does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);

 

Deacons

1Ti_3:11-12 EMTV Likewise their wives must be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things. 12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children well, and their own houses.

 

The Courageous Wife, Suffering Under a Lost Husband

1Pe_3:1-7 EMTV Wives, likewise, subject yourselves to your own husbands, so that even if some are disobedient to the word, that by the conduct of their wives, without a word, they shall be gained for Christ, 2 when they observe your chaste conduct with fear. 3 Of whom let it not be the outward adorning of braiding of hair, and wearing of gold, or of putting on of fine clothes, 4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible attitude of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious before God. 5 For thus formerly, the holy women who hoped on God also adorned themselves, subjecting themselves to their own husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, of whom you became children, when you do good and are not afraid of any terror. 7 Husbands, likewise, live together according to knowledge as with a weaker vessel, with the wife, showing her honor as also a fellow heir of the grace of life, in order that your prayers may not be hindered.

 

Main Contents: Intro | Husbands and Wives | Children

 

Is A Husbands Authority Ever overruled Over His Wife?

5/13/17

 

1Sa_25: Nabal, Abigale, and David

King Artaxis, Esther, and Mordichi

It is better to obey God than man -- but only if it is actually GOD who gave the command!

 

Children

These are my shorthand, personal notes of Bible verses for Children

 

Children in General

Other dates; 4/10/17

 

Exo_20:12 WEB Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which Yahweh your God gives you.

 

Lev 19:3 WEB " 'Each one of you shall respect his mother and his father. You shall keep my Sabbaths. I am Yahweh your God.

Lev 19:3 LB Let everyone of you reverence his father and his mother; and you shall keep My Sabbaths: I am the Lord your God.

Lev 19:3 ἕκαστος πατέρα αὐτοῦ καὶ μητέρα αὐτοῦ φοβείσθω, καὶ τὰ σάββατά μου φυλάξεσθε· ἐγὼ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

 

Pro_15:5 MKJV A fool despises his father's instruction, but he who listens to correction is wise.

 

Pro_23:22 WEB Listen to your father who gave you life, And don't despise your mother when she is old.

 

Pro_30:17 WEB The eye that mocks at his father, And scorns obedience to his mother: The ravens of the valley shall pick it out, The young eagles shall eat it.

 

Pro_1:8 WEB My son, listen to your father's instruction, And don't forsake your mother's teaching:

 

Lots of Children Are a Blessing

Other dates; 3/10/17-3/13/17 (especially in light of baby number two pregnancy test);

 

Psa_127:1-5, esp. Psa_127:3-5

Psa_128:1-4, esp. Psa_128:3-4;

Pro_17:6;

 

Gen_1:28 Original multiplication blessing

Gen_15:4 Abrahams desperation for children

Gen_15:5 Abraham: look at stars

Gen_24:60 Rebekah: Mother of thousands

Gen_30:1-2 Rachel: give me children or I die!

Gen_33:5 Jacob's Divinely multiplied Kids

Gen_41:50-52, Gen_48:4 Joseph's Kids

Gen_50:23 Joseph's Great Grand kids

Deu_28:4, etc. fruit of body blessed

Jos_24:3-4, etc. your father Abraam... multiplied... seed

1Sa_1:1-18, 1Sa_1:19-20, 1Sa_1:27, etc. Hannah: 1st Son: Samuel

1Sa_2:20, 1Sa_2:21 Hannah: 3 more sons & 2 daughters

1Ch_28:5 God Gave David Many Sons

Isa_8:18 Isiah's Prophetic Children Signs

Job_1:2, Job_42:12-16 Job's Children

>> See: wk ethic multiplication

 

Children From Reproach to Reward

Gen_30:22-23 Rachel's reproach taken away

1Sa_1:5-6, etc. Hannah (as seen previously)

Luk_1:24-25 Elizabeth's reproach taken away

 

Also Consider The Blessing of Celibacy

Isa_54:1-4; Mat_19:10-12; 1Co_7:1; 1Co_7:6-9; 1Co_7:25-38;

>> Sync: Pur | FamCo

 

 

Labor & Delivery Verses Verses for Women to be Saved Through Labor

My spiritual wifes favorite verses for having faith and hope when seeking to be courageous in birthing children

 

My wife compiled the following verses (in conjunction of our proclamation) which I compiled, quoted, and enhanced for this Bible Study.

 

My wife said: the following are 7 of my "favorite" Bible verses for labor (aside from my current Psalms of Degrees obsession).

(My wife also asked,

AlThu 11:49am

@hd After being able to meditate the other week about my previous labor experiences and some of my go-to Bible verses that ive found myself seeking to hug during that time, I was finally able to jot them down. So, the following are 7 of my "favorite" Bible verses for labor (aside from my current Psalms of Degrees obsession). I was wondering if you could record yourself reading these 7 verses? I was thinking that we could periodically play that recording during labor, especially during the times when my mind might be struggling due to intense pain.

Heb_11:11 by faith Sarah was given power to throw down seed

Heb_11:11 GRV [Dative: to/for/in/at/with (by)] πιστει G4102 N-DSF και G2532 CONJ αυτη G846 P-NSF σαρρα G4564 N-NSF στειρα G4723 N-NSFα δυναμιν G1411 N-ASF εις G1519 PREP καταβολην G2602 N-ASF σπερματος G4690 N-GSN ελαβεν G2983 V-2AAI-3S και G2532 CONJ παρα G3844 PREP καιρον G2540 N-ASM ηλικιας G2244 N-GSF [biggness/size/stature/adulthood/maturity -- ἡλικία (St G2244: maturity; WS: adulthood) < ἡλίκος (St G2245: as big ashow much; WS: How great (Col_2:1; Jas_3:5 {AMGL: Gal_6:11}); AMGL: what sized, what, how great, how small) < ἧλιξ (St: a comrade, that is, one of the same age; WS: adult); (Mat_6:34: αρκετον)] ετεκεν G5088 V-2AAI-3Sτσβ επει G1893 CONJ πιστον G4103 A-ASM ηγησατο G2233 V-ADI-3S τον G3588 T-ASM επαγγειλαμενον G1861 V-ADP-ASM

>> Sync: FamC | DAR

 

Mat_24:21-22 Days cut short for elects sake else no one would be saved

Mat_24:21 GRV εσται G2071 V-FXI-3S γαρ G1063 CONJ τοτε G5119 ADV θλιψις G2347 N-NSF [comp. Joh_16:21] μεγαλη G3173 A-NSF οια G3634 R-NSF [St: such or what sort of AMGL: what sort or manner of, such as (as WS)] ου G3756 PRT-N γεγονεν G1096 V-2RAI-3S απ G575 PREP αρχης G746 N-GSF κοσμου G2889 N-GSM εως G2193 CONJ του G3588 T-GSM νυν G3568 ADV ουδ G3761 ADV ου G3756 PRT-N μη G3361 PRT-N γενηται G1096 V-2ADS-3S

Mat_24:22 GRV και G2532 CONJ ει G1487 COND μη G3361 PRT-N εκολοβωθησαν G2856 V-API-3P [pruned/checked/restrained; St: G2849: dwarf/curtail > G2856: (figuratively) abridge: - shorten (~ cut short)] αι G3588 T-NPF ημεραι G2250 N-NPF εκειναι G1565 D-NPF ουκ G3756 PRT-N αν G302 PRT εσωθη G4982 V-API-3S πασα G3956 A-NSF σαρξ G4561 N-NSF δια G1223 PREP δε G1161 CONJ τους G3588 T-APM εκλεκτους G1588 A-APM [ἐκ, ἐξ + λέγω] κολοβωθησονται G2856 V-FPI-3P αι G3588 T-NPF ημεραι G2250 N-NPF εκειναι G1565 D-NPF

[(A) AMGL G2849: prune. 2. to check, restrain. 3. to chastise, correct, punish; (B) WS: κολάζω kolzō; fut. kolsomai, from klos (n.f.), abridged, shortened. To mutilate, prune, such as trees. Metaphorically, to correct, moderate. In the NT, and generally, to discipline, punish, with the acc. (Act_4:21; 2Pe_2:9, meaning to reserve as subject to punishment). Also from klos (n.f.): kōlō (G2967), to cut off, weaken, hinder.

(C) WS: maimed, cut off. To cut off, mutilate (Sept.: 2Sa_4:12). In the NT, used of time in the pass., meaning to cut off, shorten (Mat_24:22; Mar_13:20). -- (D) AMGL: to cut off, amputate (LXX), hence, to curtail, shorten (E) VGNT: properly = amputatemaimed, mutilated,]

 

Mat 22:13 Then the king said to the servants, 'Tie him up hands and feet, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

Mat 22:13 τότε εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεὺς τοῖς διακόνοις· δήσαντες αὐτοῦ πόδας καὶ χεῖρας ἄρατε αὐτὸν καὶ ἐκβάλετε εἰς τὸ σκότος τὸ ἐξώτερον· ἐκεῖ ἔσται ὁ κλαυθμὸς καὶ ὁ βρυγμὸς τῶν ὀδόντων.

Mat 22:13 τοτε TSBειπεν ο βασιλευς Aειπεν τοις διακονοις δησαντες αυτου ποδας και χειρας TSBαρατε TSBαυτον TSBκαι εκβαλετε Aαυτον εις το σκοτος το εξωτερον εκει εσται ο κλαυθμος και ο βρυγμος των οδοντων

Mat 22:14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."

Mat 22:14 πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσι κλητοὶ, ὀλίγοι δὲ ἐκλεκτοί.

 

Rth_4:11 Blessing to Make You as Those Who Worked Mightiness in Ephrathah

Rth_4:11 WEB All the people who ·were [KJV: were] in the gate, and the elders, said, ·We are [KJV: We are] witnesses. Yahweh make the woman who has come into your house like Rachel and like Leah, which two built the house of Israel: and ·treat you worthily [חיל ועשׂה do (you?) mightiness]* in Ephrathah, and be famous in Bethlehem:

[* MT: חיל ועשׂה KJV: do thou worthily; YLT: do thou virtuously; NKJV: may you prosper; DRB (VUL): that she may be an example of virtue; NIV (Not Inspired Version): May you have standing]

Rth_4:11 LB (LXX) And all the people who were in the gate said, ·We are witnesses [Μάρτυρες]; and the elders [πρεσβύτεροι] said, The Lord ·make [Δῴη] your wife [τὴν γυναῖκά σου] who goes into your house, as Rachel and as Leah, who both together built the house of Israel, and wrought mightily in Ephratha [ἐποίησανV-AAI-3PδύναμινN-ASF ABP: did powerfully in Ephratah; CT (LXX): and laid the foundation of power in Ephratha], and there shall be a name to you in Bethlehem.

Rth_4:11 καὶ εἴποσαν πᾶς ὁ λαὸς οἱ ἐν τῇ πύλῃ Μάρτυρες. καὶ οἱ πρεσβύτεροι εἴποσαν Δῴη κύριος τὴν γυναῖκά σου τὴν εἰσπορευομένην εἰς τὸν οἶκόν σου ὡς Ραχηλ καὶ ὡς Λειαν, αἳ ᾠκοδόμησαν ἀμφότεραι τὸν οἶκον Ισραηλ καὶ ἐποίησαν δύναμιν ἐν Εφραθα, καὶ ἔσται ὄνομα ἐν Βαιθλεεμ·

Rth 4:11 καιG2532 CONJειποσανV-AAI-3PπαςG3956 A-NSMοG3588 T-NSMλαοςG2992 N-NSMοιG3588 T-NPMενG1722 PREPτηG3588 T-DSFπυληG4439 N-DSFμαρτυρεςG3144 N-NPMκαιG2532 CONJοιG3588 T-NPMπρεσβυτεροιG4245 A-NPMCειποσανV-AAI-3PδωηG1325 V-AAO-3SκυριοςG2962 N-NSMτηνG3588 T-ASFγυναικαG1135 N-ASFσουG4771 P-GSMτηνG3588 T-ASFεισπορευομενηνG1531 V-PMPASειςG1519 PREPτονG3588 T-ASMοικονG3624 N-ASMσουG4771 P-GSMωςG3739 CONJραχηλN-PRIκαιG2532 CONJωςG3739 CONJλειανN-PRIαιG3739 R-NPFωκοδομησανG3618 V-AAI-3PαμφοτεραιA-NPFτονG3588 T-ASMοικονG3624 N-ASMισραηλG2474 N-PRIκαιG2532 CONJεποιησανG4160 V-AAI-3PδυναμινG1411 N-ASFενG1722 PREPεφραθαN-PRIκαιG2532 CONJεσταιG1510 V-FMI-3SονομαG3686 N-NSNενG1722 PREPβαιθλεεμN-PRI

 

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Rth_4:11 ויאמרוH559 said, כלH3605 And all העםH5971 the people אשׁרH834 that בשׁערH8179 in the gate, והזקניםH2205 and the elders, עדיםH5707 witnesses. יתןH5414 make יהוהH3068 The LORD אתH853 האשׁהH802 the woman הבאהH935 that is come אלH413 into ביתךH1004 thine house כרחלH7354 like Rachel וכלאהH3812 and like Leah, אשׁרH834 which בנוH1129 did build שׁתיהםH8147 two אתH853 ביתH1004 the house ישׂראלH3478 of Israel: ועשׂהH6213 and do חילH2428 thou worthily באפרתהH672 in Ephratah, וקראH7121 and be famous שׁםH8034 and be famous בבית לחם׃H1035 in Bethlehem:

Rth_4:11 vayo`m'ru   cal   ha,aM   `a$er   ba$a,ar   v'haz'kaniyM   ,adiyM   yiTaN   y'hvah   `eT   ha`i$ah   haba`ah   `el   bayTeCa   c'raHal   uk'la`ah   `a$er   banu   $'TayheM   `eT   bayT   yiS'ra`al   va,aSah   Hayil   b'`ef'raTah   uk'ra`   $aM   b'VayT   laHeM  

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1Ti_2:15 They will be Saved in Childbearing if they Continue in...

1Ti_2:15 GRV σωθησεται* G4982 V-FPI-3S δε G1161 CONJ δια G1223 PREP της G3588 T-GSF τεκνογονιας G5042 N-GSF εαν G1437 COND μεινωσιν G3306 V-AAS-3P εν G1722 PREP πιστει G4102 N-DSF και G2532 CONJ αγαπη G26 N-DSF και G2532 CONJ αγιασμω G38 N-DSM μετα G3326 PREP σωφροσυνης G4997 N-GSF

[* Saved: from Gen_3:16: (A) λύπαςN-APF(B) στεναγμόνN-ASM {θλιψεως (Joh_16:21)} (A) λύπαιςN-DPF]

1Ti_5:14 CAB Therefore I desire that the younger widows to marry, to bear children [τεκνογονεῖν], to manage the house, to give no opportunity to the adversary because of reproach.

1Ti_5:14 βούλομαι οὖν νεωτέρας γαμεῖν, τεκνογονεῖν, οἰκοδεσποτεῖν, μηδεμίαν ἀφορμὴν διδόναι τῷ ἀντικειμένῳ λοιδορίας χάριν.

 

Gen_3:16 WEB To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth. In pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

Gen_3:16 CAB And to the woman He said, I will greatly multiply [Πληθύνων πληθυνῶ] your pains [λύπας AMGL: pain of body or mind, grief, sorrow ; LJS: sad plight or condition] and your groanings [στεναγμόν]; in pain [λύπαις] ·you shall bring forth children [τέξῃ τέκνα], and your submission shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over you.

Gen_3:16 καὶ τῇ γυναικὶ εἶπεν Πληθύνων πληθυνῶ τὰς λύπαςN-APFσου καὶ τὸν στεναγμόνN-ASMσου, ἐν λύπαιςN-DPFτέξῃ G5088 V-FMI-2S τέκνα G5043 N-APN· καὶ πρὸς τὸν ἄνδρα σου ἡ ἀποστροφή σου, καὶ αὐτός σου κυριεύσει.

λυπαςG3077 N-APFσουG4771 P-GSκαιG2532 CONJτονG3588 T-ASMστεναγμονG4726 N-ASMσουG4771 P-GSενG1722 PREPλυπαιςG3077 N-DPF

 

V: 3/29/19

btw there are alot (maybe even the mass majority) of women that are saved in childbearing that do not do this. Is there a special salvation for those who seek to obey the bible in this way

 

Luk_8:50 No fear, Only Believe. And Salvation will Happen

Luk_8:50 GRV ο G3588 T-NSM δε G1161 CONJ ιησους G2424 N-NSM ακουσας G191 V-AAP-NSM απεκριθη G611 V-ADI-3S αυτω G846 P-DSM λεγων G3004 V-PAP-NSMτσβ μη G3361 PRT-N φοβου G5399 V-PNM-2S μονον G3440 ADV πιστευσον G4100 V-AAM-2Sα πιστευε G4100 V-PAM-2Sτσβ και G2532 CONJ σωθησεται G4982 V-FPI-3S

 

See: Mar_5:36

 

Jam_5:15 Prayer Of Faith Will Raise Up The Exhausted One

Jas_5:15 GRV και G2532 CONJ η G3588 T-NSF ευχη G2171 N-NSF της G3588 T-GSF πιστεως G4102 N-GSF σωσει G4982 V-FAI-3S τον G3588 T-ASM καμνοντα G2577 V-PAP-ASM και G2532 CONJ εγερει G1453 V-FAI-3S αυτον G846 P-ASM ο G3588 T-NSM κυριος G2962 N-NSM καν G2579 COND-C αμαρτιας G266 N-APF η G5600 V-PXS-3S πεποιηκως G4160 V-RAP-NSM αφεθησεται G863 V-FPI-3S αυτω G846 P-DSM

 

Joh_16:21 Once a Child is Produced she Doesn't Remember her Sadness Anymore

Joh_16:21 η G3588 T-NSF γυνη G1135 N-NSF οταν G3752 CONJ τικτη G5088 V-PAS-3S λυπην G3077 N-ASF εχει G2192 V-PAI-3S οτι G3754 CONJ ηλθεν G2064 V-2AAI-3S η G3588 T-NSF ωρα G5610 N-NSF αυτης G846 P-GSF οταν G3752 CONJ δε G1161 CONJ γεννηση G1080 V-AAS-3S το G3588 T-ASN παιδιον G3813 N-ASN ουκετι G3765 ADVαβ ουκ G3756 PRT-Nτσ ετι G2089 ADVτσ μνημονευει G3421 V-PAI-3S της G3588 T-GSF θλιψεως G2347 N-GSF [Mat_24:21] δια G1223 PREP την G3588 T-ASF χαραν G5479 N-ASF οτι G3754 CONJ εγεννηθη G1080 V-API-3S ανθρωπος G444 N-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κοσμον G2889 N-ASM

>>>>> [Mat_24:21]

 

 

 

Heb_11:11 by faith Sarah was given power to throw down seed

G4723

Mat_24:22 Days cut short for elects sake else no one would be saved

Mat_22:14

Rth_4:11 Blessing to make you as those who worked mightiness in Ephrathah

1Ti_2:15 They will be saved in childbearing if they continue in...

Luk_8:50 No fear only believe and salvation will happen

Jam_5:15 Prayer of faith will raise up the exhausted one

Joh_16:21 Once a child is produced she doesn't remember her sadness anymore

 

Punishment of Children

Other dates (seen previously); 3/14/17; 1/29/18

Pro_3:12 - Scourges every received son

Heb_12:6-12 - Quotes Pro_3:12 LXX (not the Heb. MT)

Pro_13:20 - Companion of fools

Pro_13:24 - No rod = hate son

Pro_19:18 (also: Pro_19:19) Punish while hope (MT: 'no spare for crying')

Pro_20:11 - LXX: youth restrained (MT: 'children can know')

Pro_22:6 - Not in LXX (MT: train up)

Pro_22:15 - Folly bound up... rod

Pro_23:13-14 - He will not die

Pro_23:24, etc. - LXX: Righteous father brings up well; LXX & MT: father of wise = joy (Pro_27:11)

Pro_29:15 - LXX: Erring child (MT: Left to himself) = shame

Pro_29:17 - Correct son, he give you good

[Pro_29:19 servant cant be child-corrected with words]

Eph_6:1-4 - Children obey... Father's... no provoking... but discipline

[Pro_20:30 - LXX: bad happens to bad (MT: blueness of wound)]

 

Deu 25:1 WEB If there be a controversy between men, and they come to judgment, and the judges judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked;

Deu 25:1 And if there should be a dispute between men, and they should come forward to judgment, and the judges judge, and acquit the righteous, and condemn the wicked;

Deu 25:1 Ἐὰν δὲ γένηται ἀντιλογία ἀνὰ μέσον ἀνθρώπων καὶ προσέλθωσιν εἰς κρίσιν καὶ κρίνωσιν καὶ δικαιώσωσιν τὸν δίκαιον καὶ καταγνῶσιν τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς,

Deu_25:2 WEB and it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his wickedness, by number.

Deu_25:2 LB then it shall come to pass, if the unrighteous should be worthy of stripes, you shall lay him down before the judges, and they shall scourge him before them according to his iniquity.

Deu_25:2 καὶ ἔσται ἐὰν ἄξιος ᾖ πληγῶν ὁ ἀσεβῶν, καὶ καθιεῖς αὐτὸν ἔναντι τῶν κριτῶν καὶ μαστιγώσουσιν αὐτὸν ἐναντίον αὐτῶν κατὰ τὴν ἀσέβειαν αὐτοῦ ἀριθμῷ.

Deu 25:3 WEB Forty stripes he may give him, he shall not exceed; lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then your brother should seem vile to you.

Deu 25:3 And they shall scourge him with forty stripes in number, they shall not inflict more; for if you should scourge him with more stripes beyond these stripes, your brother will be disgraced before you.

Deu 25:3 τεσσαράκοντα μαστιγώσουσιν αὐτόν, οὐ προσθήσουσιν· ἐὰν δὲ προσθῶσιν μαστιγῶσαι αὐτὸν ὑπὲρ ταύτας τὰς πληγὰς πλείους, ἀσχημονήσει ὁ ἀδελφός σου ἐναντίον σου.

 

Coming of Age Bar Mitzvah

Many Other date(s) (seen below); 9/9/19 (Major Reformating/Revission); 10/20/19

 

Quick Summary of Growing Up

 

Bar Mitzvah

Bar Mitzvah is when a male child in Jewish culture comes of age. Although most observe this at 13 today, it seems to have been originally recognized at 12 years oldwhich is what Jesus, His parents, and monotheistic society observed and recognized in Luk_2:42. (Note the appropriate significance of 12 among Monotheists.)

 

No Bat Mitzvah, Only Transfer or Dismissal

It should be noted that women do not come of age. Women do not have a bar mitzvah, and it is only more recently in history that apostate liberals have invented a shameful bat mitzvah in their degradation of women. Any concept like this is liberal and unfounded in Biblical history. While boys become men, girls are transferred from their fathers to their husbands (See all of Num_30:1-16). Women only become independent when their men are out of the picture (example: death or abandonment).

 

Honoring Parents is Life-Long

It is also important to note that while boys graduate into becoming men, from being under authority to becoming authorities, no son or daughter ever graduates from honoring their parents (Eph_6:1-3; Col_3:20).

When you are a child, honoring parents especially includes obeying them, and when you are an adult it includes providing for them / giving them money/value -- as seen in Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution).

>>Scrip /\/\

 

Requirements for Boys to Become Men

        Appointed time by father (or sometimes their current authority, if adopted for example?) -- Gal_4

        Not being under tutors or guardians (i.e. no need/dependence upon being under supervision) -- Gal_4
(comp. Jesus stayed in a city by Himself -- Luk_2)

        Autonomous Responsibility (which is prerequisite for Autonomous Authority) -- seen throughout numerous passages below

        Put away childish things -- 1Co_13

 

Gal_4:1-2 the time appointed by the father

Happens to boys, including gentiles

[Also note that a son is like a slave in Gal_4:1 and Sir_3:7 (where Sir = Sirach)]

 

(A) ἐπιτρόπους: Mat_20:3, Luk_8:3; LXX: 2Ma_11:1 (p. 515 NETS); 2Ma_13:2; 2Ma_14:2

 

(B) οἰκονόμους: Rom_2:12-16, Rom_2:25-29, etc.

 

>> Story: when I was seeking to establish my manhood, I asked my dad

>> Story: I have done adult spanking

1Co_13:11 Grown Men: put away childish things

 

Notice that lots of kids want to be treated like adults but arent as zealous for the properly correlating responsibility of adulthood.

 

Child Play = Things of a Child

9/13/19; 10/20/19

 

Child Play is Biblical & Distinct

Zec_8:4 WEB Thus says Yahweh of Armies: "Old men and old women will again dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, every man with his staff in his hand for very age.

Zec_8:4 Thus says the Lord Almighty: There shall yet dwell old men and old women in the streets of Jerusalem, everyone holding his staff in his hand for age.

Zec_8:4 τάδε λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ Ἔτι καθήσονται πρεσβύτεροι καὶ πρεσβύτεραι ἐν ταῖς πλατείαις Ιερουσαλημ, ἕκαστος τὴν ῥάβδον αὐτοῦ ἔχων ἐν τῇ χειρὶ αὐτοῦ ἀπὸ πλήθους ἡμερῶν·

Zec_8:5 WEB The streets of the city will be full of boys [יְלָדִ֖ים (y'ladiyM) ???] and girls [וִֽילָד֑וֹת (viyladOT) ???] playing [מְשַׂחֲקִ֖ים (m'SaHakiyM)] in its streets."

Zec_8:5 And the broad places of the city shall be filled with boys [παιδαρίων] and girls [κορασίων] playing [παιζόντων] in its streets.

Zec_8:5 καὶ αἱ πλατεῖαι τῆς πόλεως πλησθήσονται παιδαρίων καὶ κορασίων παιζόντων ἐν ταῖς πλατείαις αὐτῆς.

Zec_8:6 WEB Thus says Yahweh of Armies: "If it is marvelous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in those days, should it also be marvelous in my eyes?" says Yahweh of Armies.

Zec_8:6 Thus says the Lord Almighty: If it shall be impossible in the sight of the remnant of this people in those days, shall it also be impossible in My sight? Says the Lord Almighty.

Zec_8:6 τάδε λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ Διότι εἰ ἀδυνατήσει ἐνώπιον τῶν καταλοίπων τοῦ λαοῦ τούτου ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ἐκείναις, μὴ καὶ ἐνώπιον ἐμοῦ ἀδυνατήσει; λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ.

 

This blessing of (happy) playing children in the streets is idealized as a beautiful restoration of redeemed society in Jerusalem.

Notice that there is something distinct between child play and adult activity in society which is being idealized in this passage.

 

Adult Playing Examples

        Playing Instruments

        Worship/dancing like David (ומשׂחק/παίζοντα in 1Ch 15:29 -- same as Zec_8:5 Heb/Gr)

        This playing terminology works in Hebrew Greek and English.

        Marriage celebration like Isaac

 

Child Play vs Adult Play

        Healthy child play particularly means creatively practicing things that get you ready for being an adult.

        Healthy adult play means celebrating good things worthy of praise and happiness.

        Adults can also creatively practice things to gain new skills and such, but this is usually called gym-nize/exercise/train in the Bible.

        While adults are said to play in the Bible

        There is a required social transition if a Monotheist was to pass from being a Zec_8:5 child to a Zec_8:4 older man or woman.

        These comparisons are generalizations, but they still effectively help us consider the distinct social realities between children and grown-ups.

 

The Mockery of Childing a Man

        Law of Moses prescribes it as a shaming punishment for some guilty men (ex. Deu_22)

        If done to a holy man it deserves death: 2Ki_2:23, etc.

 

 

Autonomous Responsibility & Authority

For the concept (and language) of Autonomy See: Rom_2:

 

Num_30:2 Of Age Means you're personally responsible for your own actions, especially in view of God's Law

(See all of Num_30:1-16)

1Co_11:3 The head / authority of every (grown) man [ἀνδρὸς] is Anointed One (Christ) (while the head of woman is still man, even after she is grown)

Greek: ἀνδρὸς this does not include boys [παῖδας], girls [παιδισκῶν], or even women [γυναῖκές], but every MAN [ἀνδρὸς].

Joh_9:20-21 parents: He is of age... He will speak for himself

 

Jesus Observed Bar Mitzvah

The Jewish Coming of Age

 

Luk_2:40-52

         Luk_2:7 Jesus Born

         Luk_2:22-24 Jesus dedicated as a child

        Luk_2:42 Twelve years old

        Luk_2:46-47 Jesus did Bar Mitzvah

        Luk_2:51 Voluntary, re-subjection to parents

 

Jesus and His Mother

Mar_3:20-21 Mother & brothers incited against Jesus

Mar_3:31-34 Jesus acts contrary to His mother's wishes

 

>> TSK!

>> woman from the crowd

 

Solomon and His Mother

1Ki_2:19 Solomon honors her

1Ki_2:20-25 Solomon does not yield his male authority as king to his mother

 

Grown Sons Had a Choice

>> 12 Sons of Jacob: - had a say in leading the decision about their sister - for better or worse: They had a say on whether or not they would do as their father requested for them to go to Egypt

>> prodigal son was free to go make his own decisions

Gen_43:1-5 Judah made conditions (is this a right example for us? It was bad in: Gen_34:30-31, because later: Gen_49:5-7)

Luk_15:11-13 The younger brother made a choice

Luk_15:25-32 The older brother also had a choice

 

Extended Obedience to Parents

5/30/16

Esther -- of course this is the case with girls, but she did so even after being married off!

Recobites

Patriarchs: Isaac submitting even unto death!

Ishmael to his mom? (partly)

Jacob to Rebecca

Jesus re-subjection

>> Jesus re-subjection

 

Adult "Spanking"?

When Boys Fail to Become Men

When to spank and when not to spank society?

 

Correction ≠ Violence

        Adult Spanking/Correction/Punishment is not "destroying men's lives" or violence by very definition

>> Story: Mentally ill who still need to be spanked

 

Law of Moses you will chastise him (lit. child)

Ezra & Nehemiah

Proverbs Slave & Fool punishment

 

Jesus throwing out money changers

Mat_21:12-17; Mar_11:15-19; Luk_19:45-48; Joh_2:13-16

 

Limitation: masters give up threatening (and turning the other cheek in general)

 

Abortion is Murder

Other dates; 3/10/17-3/13/17