Submission

Honoring God by Actually Acknowledging the Authority that He Put in Place

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Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

5/24; 10/8/08; 8/20/09; 1/27/10; 3/8/12; 9/13/13… 9/17/13; 10/2/13 (Your Wish is My Command); 2/20/17

 

Part of a 3-Part Series: (1) “Family Commands”; (2) “Submission”; (3) “Biblical Bowing

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Submission to Parents

 

 

Contents

Introduction and Explanation. 1

Submission Examples. 1

Ruth’s Example. 1

Mary’s Example. 1

Samuel And Saul 2

Jude’s Warning. 2

Submission Commands. 2

Unsubmission Means Hell 2

Submit to Government 2

Submit to Authority, Including Masters. 2

Family, Servants, and the Motivation for Submission. 3

Women/Wives Submit to Men/Husbands: 3

Submit to Parents. 3

What Does Submission Look Like for (Male) Children?. 3

Submit to Church Leadership: 3

Be Subject to one Another: 3

When to Disobey. 4

Submission Applications. 4

 

Introduction and Explanation

Submission is an issue of salvation. This Bible study is basically a list of the main Bible passages that show this. Please urgently consider this challenging call to extreme submission so that we may all repent and honor God in this way.

 

Submission Examples

 

Ruth’s Example

Rth_1:16 CAB And Ruth said, Entreat me not to leave you, or to return from following you; for wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God.

 

Rth_3:5-6 CAB And Ruth said to her, All that you say, I will do.  6  And she went down to the threshing floor, and did according to all that her mother-in-law instructed her.

 

Mary’s Example

Luk_1:38 CAB Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! May it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her.

 

Samuel And Saul

1Sa_15:22-23 KJ2000  And Samuel said, has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.  23  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has also rejected you from being king.

 

[Read all of First Samuel Chapter 15 to get this whole story]

 

Jude’s Warning

Jud_1:7-8 WEB  Even as Sodom and Gomorrah…are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.  8  Yet in like manner these also in their dreaming defile the flesh, despise authority, and slander celestial beings.

 

Which is also said in Peter,

 

2Pe_2:10 CAB  ...those who walk after [ὀπίσω] the flesh... despise authority [κυριότητος καταφρονοῦντας]...

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Submission Commands

 

Unsubmission Means Hell

1Ti_1:8-11 KJB  But we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully; 9  Knowing this: that the law is not laid down for a righteous person but for the lawless and unsubmitted,G506 for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane…

[G506: "unsubmitted" or disobedient]

 

Submit to Government

Rom_13:1-7 WEB  Let every soul be in subjection to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those who exist are ordained by God.  2  Therefore he who resists the authority, withstands the ordinance of God; and those who withstand will receive to themselves judgment.  3  For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Do you desire to have no fear of the authority? Do that which is good, and you will have praise from the same,  4  for he is a servant of God to you for good. But if you do that which is evil, be afraid, for he doesn't bear the sword in vain; for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him who does evil.  5  Therefore you need to be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake.  6  For this reason you also pay taxes, for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually on this very thing.  7  Give therefore to everyone what you owe: taxes to whom taxes are due; customs to whom customs; respect to whom respect; honor to whom honor.

 

Submit to Authority, Including Masters

1Pe_2:13-14 WEB  Therefore subject yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether to the king, as supreme;  14  or to governors, as sent by him for vengeance on evil-doers and for praise to those who do well… 17  Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.  18  Servants, be in subjection to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the wicked.  19  For it is commendable if someone endures pain, suffering unjustly, because of conscience toward God.  20  For what glory is it if, when you sin, you patiently endure beating? But if, when you do well, you patiently endure suffering, this is commendable with God.  21  For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving you an example, that you should follow his steps,

 

Family, Servants, and the Motivation for Submission

Col_3:18-25 WEB  Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.  19  Husbands, love your wives, and don't be bitter against them.  20  Children, obey your parents in all things, for this pleases the Lord.  21  Fathers, don't provoke your children, so that they won't be discouraged.  22  Servants, obey in all things those who are your masters according to the flesh, not just when they are looking, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing God.  23  And whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord, and not for men,  24  knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ.  25  But he who does wrong will receive again for the wrong that he has done, and there is no partiality.

 

Women/Wives Submit to Men/Husbands:

Num 30; Eph_5:22-24; Gen_3:16; Est_1:16-18, Est_1:20; 1Co_14:34; Col_3:18-19; 1Ti_2:11, 1Ti_2:12; Tit_2:5; 1Pe_3:1-6

 

See: www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/Family_Commands.html

 

Submit to Parents

Exo_20:12; Exo_21:15, Exo_21:17; Lev_19:3, 1Ki_2:19; Pro_1:8, Pro_1:9, Pro_15:5, Pro_20:20; Pro_23:22-25, Pro_28:24, Pro_30:11, Pro_30:17; Mal_1:6; Mat_15:4-6; Luk_18:20; Eph_6:1-3; Col_3:20

(Edited from TSK)

 

See: http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/Family_Commands.html#Children

 

What Does Submission Look Like for (Male) Children?

 

Gal_4:1-3 WEB  But I say that so long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a bondservant, though he is lord of all;  2  but is under guardians and stewards until the day appointed by the father.  3  So we also, when we were children, were held in bondage under the elements of the world.

 

See:

www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/Family_Commands.html#ComingofAge

 

Submit to Church Leadership:

Deu_17:12; Tit_3:1

 

Be Subject to one Another:

Eph_5:21

 

When to Disobey

Act_4:17-21 WEB  But so that this spreads no further among the people, let's threaten them, that from now on they don't speak to anyone in this name."  18  They called them, and charged them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.  19  But Peter and John answered them, "Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves,  20  for we can't help telling the things which we saw and heard."  21  When they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding no way to punish them, because of the people; for everyone glorified God for that which was done.

 

Act_5:27-29 WEB  When they had brought them, they set them before the council. The high priest questioned them,  28  saying, "Didn't we strictly charge you not to teach in this name? Behold, you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and intend to bring this man's blood on us."  29  But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men.

 

(Also consider Abigail’s actions in the story of David, Nabal, and Abigail in 1Sa 25).

 

Rom_12:18 WEB  If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men.

 

And we might say, “as much as it is up to you, submit as much as possible,” but when any man tells you to disobey God, then obey God rather than man.

 

Submission Applications

Keep Going Further! Obey ALL the Bible!

 

·        If you still need help understanding how all of this applies to family, please see our “Family Commands” Bible study.

·         If you are ready to get extreme and take submission to the next level (that is, where you are obeying even the most unpopular Bible verses) then you may want to take a look at our “Biblical Bowing” Bible study.

 

It is time to obey ALL the Bible, weather by life or by death. If we submit like the Bible says, then we will have truth from His hand and become inheritors of Jesus’ Kingdom. If you happen to be ambitious to do this in truth, then we would love to hear from you!

 

 

 

Submission to Parents

3/8/04 (Mon); 3/17/04 (Word: Printed); 1/27/10 (Word:  Modified); 2/20/17 (recompiled)

 

Main verses:

Gal 4:1-2 WEB  But I say that so long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a bondservant, though he is lord of all;  2  but is under guardians and stewards until the day 4287 appointed by the father.

 [“…the day4287 …” -That is, a “fixed beforehanddesignated day…” -Strongs]

 

Being “of age” is not about marriage

It has been proposed that marriage makes a person no longer “under their parents,” but I’m convinced that it is scripturally shown otherwise…

 

Same cultural mindset (as scripturally approved in Gal 4:1-2):

Jn 9:20 NIV "We know he is our son," the parents answered, "and we know he was born blind. 21 But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don't know. Ask him. He is of age; he will speak for himself."

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Bride price was needed for marriage (and it was a lot of money)

· Gen 34:11-12 BBE  And Shechem said to her father and her brothers, If you will give ear to my request, whatever you say I will give to you.  12  However great you make the bride-price and payment, I will give it; only let me have the girl for my wife.

· Also See Gen 29:18 & 20. Ü In Jacob’s case it was 7 years worth of wages!

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Blind person probably not married

The lame and the blind were looked down upon, even as a result of what God had said, (Lev 21:18, 15:21, 2Sam 4:4 & 9:6-10, 5:6-8, Is 33:23, Is 65:10, Jn 9:2).  Culturally it would not have been easy for such a one to get married because typically you had to have “connections” with the father of the woman that you wished to marry. But for the blind or maimed, it would have been hard to get favorable “connections”.

     The blind man in John 9 was born blind, and so was looked down upon. He was also evidently poor (like most blind people especially of that day) because he was begging, (See verse 8. And also see Act 3:2).  Because of this, he probably could not afford a bride price, and if he could, who would want to give their daughter away to a blind man?  -No one in that culture would.  So… All evidence says that he was not married but we know that he was still considered, “of age.”

 

“Of age” -Not about marriage A

The time at which one is ‘not under their parents’ is scripturally fixated on a predetermined age of maturity instead of an event such as marriage.

 

-The lame man was likely not married, but was accounted “of age.”

-Jesus was not married but had ceased to be completely subject to His mother Marry, (she wanted to “take charge” of him!) See LK 2:51, contrasted with Mark 3:20-21, & 31-34.

     Every obedience after becoming “of age” is not an issue of “being under” one’s parents, but a matter of “honoring” one’s parents.  Such may specifically need to be the case when 1. Living under their roof 2. Using their things 3. Being dependent on them etc.  The patriarchs did this same thing even after they were married and or well past being “of age”! 

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Biblical Examples:

· Jacob and Esau were twins, meaning that they were the same age: Gen 25:24-26

· They had both passed 40 years of age: Gen 26:34

· Both sons knew that their father’s blessing was needed even after turning 40 years old, (while one was married and the other was not)! Gen 27:7, 12, 27-29, *33-41, 28:1a, 3-4

· Jacob repeatedly obeyed what his parents said to do, (weather right or wrong):

Gen 27:8, 13, 43, 28:1b, *27 –And he was repeatedly blessed by God

· Jacob’s obedience was at least partly dew to the fact that he had been ‘in his father’s house’ Gen 28:21

· Esau intentionally dishonored his parents in contrast to Jacob’s obedience

Gen 26:34-35, 28:6-9 –Esau was hated of God, (Mal 1:2-3 & Rom 9:10-13).

Apparently, now that the blessings were given of his father, he thought that he could get away with this sin.

· Jacob went on to be relitivly submissive to Laban by asking to be sent on his way. Gen 30:25-26.  He also did this in light of being mistreated by Laban. Gen 29:21-28, & 31:7, 41

Similarly,

· Judah was married Gen 38:2, and Joseph was 30 and married. Gen 41:45-46

· Judah obeyed his father Jacob Gen 42:1-2, but also did not obey him when given unreasonable instructions. Gen 43:4-5, (of course this may and may not have been right…)

· Later every one of the 12 patriarchs where married,  Gen 46:8-24, all of which were still ‘in Jacob’s house’ (except Joseph) Gen 46:26-27,31 & 47:12. 

· All of Jacob’s children and grand children still needed to be blessed by him.  Gen 48:5-6, & 48:9-49:28

This blessing was done in faith, and honored by the Bible. Heb 11:21

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“Of age” -Not about marriage B

Post-“of age”-honoring is obviously not dependent on marriage, and it also is not related to the issue of becoming of age, or even of “leaving and cleaving.”  Honoring by ones parents in this way should not be interpreted as still being “under” ones parents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You’re Never too old to honor parents

     Achieving “the age of accountability” never negates the command to honor one’s parents, only that the son or daughter is no longer under their parents. I would suggest that this means that they are not “under the authority of their parents” –Although that is not as scripturally clear.

 

Children are to obey, everyone is to honor

 

It says,

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. [2] "Honor your father and mother"--which is the first commandment with a promise-- [3] "that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth." (Eph 6:1 NIV)

And it also says,

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

(1Cor 13:11 NIV)

You can see that children are commanded to obey their parents, but the promise for long life (including your grown up years) is not dependent upon age.  Paul starts with an age-specified command, and then reinforces it with a life long principal.  Therefore if you are a child, honoring your parents necessitates obeying them.

Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord, (Col 3:20 NIV, and also see 1Tim 3:4).

 

Don't drink wine-

Jer 35:2 KJVA  Go unto the house of the Rechabites, and speak unto them, and bring them into the house of the LORD, into one of the chambers, and give them wine to drink.

Jer 35:6-10 WEB  But they said, We will drink no wine; for Jonadab the son of Rechab, our father, commanded us, saying, You shall drink no wine, neither you, nor your sons, forever:  7  neither shall you build house, nor sow seed, nor plant vineyard, nor have any; but all your days you shall dwell in tents; that you may live many days in the land in which you sojourn.  8  We have obeyed the voice of Jonadab the son of Rechab, our father, in all that he charged us, to drink no wine all our days, we, our wives, our sons, or our daughters;  9  nor to build houses for us to dwell in; neither have we vineyard, nor field, nor seed:  10  but we have lived in tents, and have obeyed, and done according to all that Jonadab our father commanded us.

Jer 35:14 WEB  The words of Jonadab the son of Rechab, that he commanded his sons, not to drink wine, are performed; and to this day they drink none, for they obey their father's commandment: but I have spoken to you, rising up early and speaking; and you have not listened to me.

Jer 35:18-19 KJVA  And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:  19  Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab Jer 35:18-19 KJVA  And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:  19  Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.

 

shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.

About the verses

It seems that this is the exception, in that it is constrained post-"of age"-obedience. In this case, "honoring one's father" included a constrained obedience.  This may be for several reasons:

1.  There's something about patriarchal precedence.  This patriarch was not just giving orders to do such as "takeout the trash".  Instead this patriarch was also doing what he was instructing his children to do.  This is reminiscent of things like Abraham and the commandment of circumcision, or even of the tithe: 

Abraham- Heb 7:1-4, Jacob- Gen 28:22, Enforced in the law- Lev 27:32, Num 8:21, Dut 14:22.

This is especially reminiscent in light of numbered two...

2.  Obeying their father may have become specifically constrained because he had heard from God.  This is not specifically noted but is quite possible especially given how important it seemed to be the Lord, and how zealously his children had kept the command.  I would propose, that if a great grandfather of ours instituted that all of his descendants must stand on their heads twice a day that the Lord would not hold us to such a thing.  If we had a patriarch that said that we must all swallow our gum when we were done chewing it, instead of spitting it out, I personally don't hold that we should feel constrained to do so, unless of course God had specified such thing.  -And of course if it were a sinful precedent, we should not repeat it but we should rather, "repent of the sins of our fathers," (Ex. Lev 26:41)

This is not a perfect argument but it is certainly reasonable unless it can otherwise be scripturally shown faulty.

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Parent commanding children in Godly things

Dut 32:46,

And also Solomon writes, ‘do not depart from the law of your mother…’

Give me your heart…

No depart from my sayings…

 

Girls (This part under construction)

But just when we thought that we had it all figured out, there is another kink that is thrown into the mix: Girls are different than guys! –No I mean it. Girls are scripturally different than guys in the way that they are submitted to their parents, and the time that it ends, and even how marriage comes in to play!

 

-Returns to her father’s house

-Women are to always be in subjection, by their very nature!

Heb 13:17 KJVA  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves…

1Pe 2:13-14 KJVA  Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14 or unto governors…

 

Compare: “Subject yourselves to every government” (1Cor 16:16)

To: “Sarah called him her Lord”

-Guys become “of age” and that apparently often correlates with marriage

(most all unmarried Jewish men were already engaged Ex. 1Cor 7 confirmed historically)

then they go to “rule” over a house.  The woman moves from one subjection to another.

 

Eph 5:22-24 KJVA  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.  23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.  24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

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Col 3:18 KJVA  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

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Col 3:20 KJVA  Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

 

-Yes women can support them selves (Dorcus, Prov 31, widowed or divorced liable for vows)

-Not all women are supposed to get married

-Girls are their Dad’s property (paid a bride price)

Bride price: (AKA “Dowry ”)

Gen. 30:20, 34:12, Exo. 22:16-17, Deu. 22:29, 1Sa. 18:25, Hos. 2:19

-Dad can undo a vow

-Bro.s had a say weather or not their sister was going to be married to a person

 

 

It might be beneficial for you to read Numbers chapter 30 before continuing...

In light of Numbers 30, someone would be hard pressed to say that a son or daughter is still "under" their parents if they don't meet these specifications:

1.  Being "in their fathers house" and

2.  Being still "in their father's house"

 

However, I hold that if one is not "in their youth" but is still "under the roof," they should remain submissive for the sake of the authority of the house, even if they would not otherwise be considered "under their parents".  It does not honor ones parents to live at their expense, under their roof, and still do as you wish contrary to their desires.  The patriarchs set us an example by being obedient and giving preference to their fathers even after marriage particularly when they were still living with them.

Remember, their is never a release from the command to honor one's parents!

 

Random stuff

 

Officialized Ceremony

It seems good to have an officialized ceremony and or recognition in a young person's life to recognize that they have become of age.  A "predetermined day" for such a thing is a Biblical idea.  Extra biblical cultural observation shows us that Jews have a "Barmitzfa".  This is done to males at age 12 to show that they have come of age.  Gelatinous 4:2 is the most direct scripture that I know of that specifically references this cultural tradition and approves and acknowledges it.

It is reasonable to say that the age of being a father is the age of accountability.  Jesus’ disciples counted the men excluding women and children. Scriptural allusions consistently indicate that a number of the disciples were in their teens.  This is not absolute: But historically speaking, people tended to get married significantly younger.

 

Hand-in-Hand

It seems that being, "of age" and no longer being "in one's youth" and being married, all typically went hand in hand.

 

Compare Submissions

Wife submition -> Num 30

compared to children's submission

-> a widow is not under a man

but it's still under 'In subjection' in the Church

 


 

 

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4/11/17

 

Lev_19:32 WEB  " 'You shall rise up before the gray head, and honor the face of an old man, and you shall fear your God. I am Yahweh.

Lev_19:32 LB  ‘You shall rise up before the gray-headed, and honor the face of the old man, and shall fear your God: I am the Lord your God.

Lev_19:32  ἀπὸ προσώπου πολιοῦ ἐξαναστήσῃ καὶ τιμήσεις πρόσωπον πρεσβυτέρου καὶ φοβηθήσῃ τὸν θεόν σου· ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

>> Sync: FamCo | Sub

 

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Your Wish is My Command

Obey Commands from Truth People as Though Your Life Depended on it, because it does

9/12/13-9/13/13; 9/21/13; 10/2/13; …11/3/16 (recompilations)

 

 

BBS: llo

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Your Wish -- Combine?

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Do All Necesities Willingly

 

seasons will come where fruit is demanded of you

 

pluck out your eye

His commands are not burdensome

vs. The Cain & Judas reaction

Rom_8:7 – flesh is not subject to God's law

 

1Pe_2:15, 1Pe_2:18-20, etc.

1Pe_3:1 - wives likewise

1Pe_5:1

 

Eph_5:28 - husbands, love your wives

Eph_6:5-10 / Col_3:22-25 – Slaves

 

Isa_6:8, 1Co_9:16, 1Co_9:17

 

Aditional Followup

2Co_12:15 – the more we love, the less we are loved

1Sa_12:23 – Samuel: how could i sin and not pray for you...

 

Moses, Nehemiah, and even myself

Samuel: how could i sin and not pray for you...

 

good: Gen_31:6, Gen_31:38-40, 2Ki_5:2, 2Ki_5:3, 2Ki_5:13

 1Co_10:31

 

 

Psa_2:11  Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling.

Psa_2:11  δουλεύσατε τῷ κυρίῳ ἐν φόβῳ καὶ ἀγαλλιᾶσθε αὐτῷ ἐν τρόμῳ.

Psa_2:12  Accept correction [MT: kiss the son], lest at any time the Lord be angry, and ye should perish from the righteous way: whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, blessed are all they that trust in him.

Psa_2:12  δράξασθε παιδείας, μήποτε ὀργισθῇ κύριος καὶ ἀπολεῖσθε ἐξ ὁδοῦ δικαίας. ὅταν ἐκκαυθῇ ἐν τάχει ὁ θυμὸς αὐτοῦ, μακάριοι πάντες οἱ πεποιθότες ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ.

 

 

 

 

BBS: llo

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BBS:

Your Wish -- Combine?

12/22/13; 12/25/13-12/26/13; 8/10/14; 9/4/14 (Rebellious Flesh); 9/6/14; other dates; 11/22/14 (unwilling to suffer); 11/23/14; 11/3/16 (recompilations); 11/19/16

 

 

 

 

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Problem: been unwilling to suffer from each other ..

Unity = being more than willing to receive evil from each other, for each others sake

>> you mean I get the privilege of acting like anointed One to someone else?

>> if you despise the opportunity to be merciful like anointed one to other people, and how will you be saved?

 

Shocking trust is demanded from you

(Moses true words in the face of pharaoh's atheism -- how was pharrow supposed to believe Moses?)

Agree with harshness against your own soul

 

Be careful to obey the most when fruit is demanded of you, lest you be cut off

 

Prioritize innocent things

 

What causes wars? - Jas_3:13-18

What makes you differ from another? - ~ first Corinthians???

 

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You can not be afraid of criticism!

Discipleship cannot work without lots of correction...


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Rebellious Flesh and Its Unfaithful Mourning

Tags: not: Unfaithful Morning

 

Rebellious flesh mourns unfaithfully to protest correction

>> as a "defense mechanism" of disrespectful unbelief and irreverence toward the goodness and truth that is being said. It hates authority and morns when an idol is defiled instead of repenting of idolatry

It hates the fateful justice of godly sorrow and repentance / being directed

>> Scripture: don't we have authority to lead  about a woman…

>> God has authority to lead about His bride!

 

 

 

 

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Heb_12:6 – don’t despise chasing

 

Pro_6:23 – rebuke is the way of life

 

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Don't Trust Your Perception... Sub-title: Nature of Knowledge

 

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Job – lest they had cursed God in their heart/Mind

- consider deep waters

- over-sensitive consciencous

 

 

Job_1:5 WEB  It was so, when the days of their feasting had run their course, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, "It may be that my sons have sinned, and renounced God in their hearts." Job did so continually.

Job_1:5 CAB  And when the days of the banquet were completed, Job sent and purified them, having risen up in the morning, and offered sacrifices for them, according to their number, and one calf for a sin offering for their souls; for Job said, Lest perhaps my sons have thought evil, and cursed God in their minds. Thus, then Job did continually.

Job_1:5 Greek  καὶ ὡς ἂν συνετελέσθησαν αἱ ἡμέραι τοῦ πότου, ἀπέστελλεν Ιωβ καὶ ἐκαθάριζεν αὐτοὺς ἀνιστάμενος τὸ πρωὶ καὶ προσέφερεν περὶ αὐτῶν θυσίας κατὰ τὸν ἀριθμὸν αὐτῶν καὶ μόσχον ἕνα περὶ ἁμαρτίας περὶ τῶν ψυχῶν αὐτῶν· ἔλεγεν γὰρ Ιωβ Μήποτε οἱ υἱοί μου ἐν τῇ διανοίᾳ αὐτῶν κα κὰ ἐνενόησαν πρὸς θεόν. οὕτως οὖν ἐποίει Ιωβ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας.

 

 

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Ecc_7:22 – don't listen to closely to your servant... let hear him curse you

 

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"...Peter do you love me...peter was hurt..." -- by default, we are so very unwilling to be hurt by truth -esp. When we were not disciplined sufficiently to beat foolishness out of us in our youth-, but it is high time t finally love truth

 

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- heart burned when rebuked, not 'got depress'

- don't faint when rebuked...

- over-reacting can end up as a form of self-defense mechanism / copping

 

 

There came a time when the husbenman sent to deman fruit from the vinyard...

Mat7 - fruit of obedience.../ of repentence

Rev: or else, remove lamp stand

 

Command all men to repent...

What commands we gave you

You received the Word of God in truth...

Heb "Obey your leaders"

Authority is not just there for when you do good, but is esp. Needed when you do wrong - overseers punish...

>look up refs...

Submission is not just when you agree, but when you do not agree. - rubber meets the road...

 

With a little understanding and justice we will speak of...

 

The Secret of Despising

Despising is not recognised when you think you are being unfair and treating some one less than they deserve. Despising is when you treat someone less than God treated you, when you were in sin!

 

Not needing someone's usefulness in your life is an agressive attack against their soul. You are 'wishing they were dead', by rejecting their reasonable place in your life. - inviting them to 'get lost', and directly insulting and hating them as a creature.

 

of a dispiser against the vital life of another person.

every time you despise, you make it very clear to heaven that the one you despise is more righteous than you.

Behold despisers and perish...

Do not be a mocker...

 

MrS repeated his crimes

)where is that Proverb, or something? deutero ref?

 

The Charge for Us to Break Demons

In view of the blessedness and premenence of al...

I give you this charge and this command: that you perpetually arrange yourself in submission and obedient listening under Al, and that you continually demand from yourself to trust her far more than your own soul? -

Do you accept this charge, and do you choose to obey my command?

 

Do you permanently choose to never know anything for the rest of your life, and to forever renounce having your own independant personal god?

 

Do we all agree that cursed and apostate is the one who disobeys this, and arranges away such clean Momotheism?

 

Intros

I want to make something meaningful out of this saying

This applies to your healthy need to obey others

When does this apply?: Every time love (that is truth) is said, and you need to obey (not "feeling love" – but when truth is said)

This "obedience to commands" is a healer to apostacy... perfering monotheism to your own insanity.

Rom_8: Obeying from the heart that teaching you were given

Dispisers cannot obey commands, therefor dispisers make themselves worthless in preparation for apostacy (so they can fall away)- God commands all men everywhere to repent

 

 

Examples of What Our Culture Does Not Believe

- Abraham commands his children...

- other, smaller authorities command?

- army/ Timothy was enlisted

- submit yourselves under one another (esp. younger to elder)

- i was gentle among you as a mother, and Warned You as a Father

- what we demand: within your immediate reach (stop claiming to be a christian)

- what we exhort: have faith and do it frm the heart - knowing that it says, "be patient with the meager faith-ed" - on one hand we demand that you at least be deeply ashamed of lack of faith/un-persuasion, but ultimately, it is willful disobedience that is not tolerated

- Moses: they pushed him back in their hearts

- you have obeyed all the more in my absense

- you obeyed from the heart that form of teahing...

- a certain man leased out his vinyard... But then sought fruit from it!

 

 

Ενετειλατο –

“From G1722 and the base of G5056; to enjoin: - (give) charge, (give) command(-ments), injoin” (Strong’s)

 

Gen_26:26 CAB  Phichol the commander [ἀρχιστράτηγος] of his army.

 

 

Gen_27:8 CAB  Now then, my son, listen to me, as I command you.

 

Gen_50:2 CAB  And Joseph commanded his servants the embalmers to embalm his father; and the embalmers embalmed Israel.

 

 

Exo_27:20 CAB  And command the children of Israel, and let them take for you refined pure olive oil beaten to burn for light, that a lamp may burn continually

 

 

Exo_16:24 CAB  And they left it aside till the morning, as Moses commanded them; and it did not stink, neither was there a worm in it.

 

Exo_32:8 CAB  they have quickly gone out of the way which you have commanded; they have made for themselves a calf, and worshipped it, and sacrificed to it, and said,

 

Exo_36:6 CAB  And Moses commanded, and proclaimed in the camp, saying, Let neither man nor woman any longer labor for the offerings of the sanctuary; and the people were restrained from bringing any more.

 

Exo_37:19 CAB  And this was the construction of the tabernacle of witness, accordingly as it was commanded to Moses; so that the public service should belong to the Levites, through Ithamar the son of Aaron the priest.

 

Lev_6:8 CAB  Command Aaron and his sons, saying,

 

Lev_24:2 CAB  Command the children of Israel, and let them take for you pure olive oil beaten for the light, to burn a lamp continually,

 

Num_5:2 CAB  Command the children of Israel, and let them send forth out of the camp every leper, and everyone who has in issue of the reins, and everyone who is unclean from a dead body.

 

Num_28:2 CAB  Command the children of Israel, and you shall speak to them, saying, You shall observe to offer My gifts to Me in My feasts, My presents, and My burnt offerings for a sweet-smelling savor.

 

Num_34:2 CAB  Command the children of Israel, and you shall say to them, You are entering into the land of Canaan: it shall be to you for an inheritance, the land of Canaan with its boundaries.

 

Deu_1:18 CAB  And I charged upon you at that time all the commands which you shall perform.

 

Deu_2:4 CAB  And command the people, saying, You are going through the borders of your brethren the children of Esau, who dwell in Seir; and they shall fear you, and dread you greatly.

 

Deu_3:28 CAB  And command Joshua, and strengthen him, and encourage him; for he shall go before the face of this people, and he shall give them the inheritance of all the land which you have seen.

 

Deu_5:31 CAB  but you stand here with Me, and I will tell you all the commands and the statutes and the judgments, which you shall teach them, and let them do so in the land which I give them for an inheritance.

 

Deu_6:6 CAB  And these words, all that I command you this day, shall be in your heart and in your soul.

 

 

Deu_16:12 CAB  And you shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and you shall observe and do these commands.

 

 

Deu_18:18 CAB  I will raise up to them a Prophet from among their brethren, like you; and I will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them as I shall command Him.

 

Deu_18:20 CAB  But whichever prophet that shall impiously speak in My name a word which I have not commanded him to speak, and whosoever shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.

 

Deu_24:8 CAB  Take heed to yourself regarding the plague of leprosy: you shall take great heed to do according to all the law, which the priests, the Levites, shall report to you; take heed to do, as I have commanded you.

 

 

 

Deu_24:20 CAB  And if you should gather your olives, you shall not return to collect the remainder; it shall be for the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, and you shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt; therefore I command you to do this thing.

 

Deu_24:22 CAB  and you shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt; therefore I command you to do this thing.

 

Deu_27:1 CAB  And Moses and the elders of Israel commanded, saying, Keep all these commands, all that command you this day.

 

 

Deu_30:11 CAB  For this command which I give you this day is not grievous, neither is it far from you.

 

Deu_32:46 CAB  And he said to them, Take heed with your heart to all these words, which I testify to you this day, which you shall command your sons, to observe and do all the words of this law.

 

Deu_33:4 CAB  the law which Moses commanded us, an inheritance to the assemblies of Jacob.

 

Jos_1:7 CAB  Be strong, therefore, and very courageous, to observe and do as Moses My servant commanded you; and you shall not turn from there to the right hand or to the left, that you may be wise in whatsoever you may do.

 

Jos_1:10 CAB  And Joshua commanded the scribes of the people, saying,

 

Jos_1:16 CAB  And they answered Joshua and said, We will do all things which you commanded us, and we will go to every place that you shall send us.

 

Jos_1:18 CAB  And whoever shall disobey you, and whoever shall not hearken to your words as you shall command him, let him die; but be strong and courageous.

 

Jos_4:12 CAB  And the sons of Reuben, and the sons of Gad, and the half tribe of Manasseh passed over armed before the children of Israel, as Moses commanded them.

 

Jos_6:10 CAB  And Joshua commanded the people, saying, Do not cry out, nor let anyone hear your voice, until He Himself declare to you the time to cry out, and then you shall cry out.

 

Jos_8:4 CAB  And he commanded them, saying, Go, and lie in ambush behind the city: do not go far from the city, and you shall all be ready.

 

Jos_8:8 CAB  You shall do according to this word. Behold, I have commanded you.

 

Jos_10:27 CAB  And it came to pass toward the setting of the sun, that Joshua commanded, and they took them down from the trees, and cast them into the cave into which they had fled for refuge, and rolled stones to the cave, which remain to this day.

 

Jos_13:6 CAB  everyone that inhabits the hill country from Lebanon as far as the Brook Misrephoth. All the Sidonians, I will destroy them from before Israel; but give them by inheritance to Israel, as I commanded you.

 

2Ch_23:8 CAB  And the Levites and all Judah did according to all that the priest Jehoiada commanded them, and they took each his men from the beginning of the Sabbath to the end of the Sabbath, for Jehoiada the priest did not dismiss the courses.

 

2Ki_11:9 CAB  And the captains of hundreds did all the things that the wise Jehoiada commanded; and they took each his men, both those that went in on the Sabbath day, and those that went out on the Sabbath day, and went in to Jehoiada the priest.

 

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2Ch_31:5 CAB  And as he gave the command, Israel brought abundantly their firstfruits of grain, wine, oil, honey, and every fruit of the field. And the children of Israel and Judah brought tithes of everything abundantly.

 

2Ch_33:8 CAB  and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I gave to their fathers, if only they will take heed to do all things which I have commanded them, according to all the law and the ordinances and the judgments given by the hand of Moses.

 

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Est_9:32 CAB  And Esther established it by a command forever, and it was written for a memorial.

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Father to son

Pro_6:3 CAB  My son, do what I command you, and deliver yourself; for on your friend's account you have come into the power of evil men: faint not, but stir up even your friend for whom you have become surety.

 

 

Jer_35:16 CAB  But the sons of Jonadab the son of Rechab have kept the command of their father; but this people have not obeyed Me.

 

 

King Commanding

Dan_9:25 CAB  And you shall know and understand, that from the going forth of the command for the answer and for the building of Jerusalem, until Christ the Prince, there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks; and then the time shall return, and the street shall be built, and the wall, and the times shall be exhausted.

 

Mat_19:7 CAB  They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?"

 

Mar_10:3 CAB  But answering He said to them, "What did Moses command you?"

 

Saducees through King

Mat_27:64 CAB  "Therefore command that the grave be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him, and say to the people, 'He was raised from the dead.' So the last deception will be worse than the first."

 

Over spirits

Mar_9:25 CAB  When Jesus saw that a crowd was running together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to him, "Mute and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him and enter him no more!"

 

Luk_8:31 CAB  And he kept imploring Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.

 

Joh_11:57 CAB  Now both the chief priests and the Pharisees had given a command, that if anyone knew where He was, he should report it, so that they might seize Him.

 

Father Through Jesus

Joh_10:18 CAB  No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This command I have received from My Father."

 

Joh_12:49 CAB  For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.

 

Joh_12:50 CAB  And I know that His command is eternal life. Therefore, whatever I speak, as the Father has said to Me, thus I speak."

 

Joh_15:14 CAB  You are My friends if you do what I command you.

 

Joh_15:17 CAB  These things I command you, that you may love one another.

 

Church Commands

Act_15:5 CAB  But some of those from the sect of the Pharisees rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."

 

Act_15:24 CAB  Inasmuch as we have heard that some went out from among us and troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'that you must be circumcised and keep the law'--to whom we gave no such command--

 

Over spirits

Act_16:18 CAB  And this she did for many days. But Paul, being greatly annoyed and turning around, said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out in that very hour.

 

Gov / police

Act_16:24 CAB  who, having received such a command, cast them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks.

 

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Act_17:15 CAB  And those conducting Paul brought him to Athens; and receiving a command for Silas and Timothy, that as quickly as possible they should come to him, they departed.

 

Paul Avoiding Giving A Command!

2Co_8:8 CAB  I speak not by a command, but I am testing the genuineness of your love by means of the diligence of others.

 

God Through Paul through Timothy!

1Ti_1:3 CAB  Just as I urged you to remain in Ephesus as I traveled into Macedonia, that you should command certain people not to teach differently,

 

1Ti_4:11 CAB  These things command and teach.

 

1Ti_5:7 CAB  And these things command, so that they may be blameless.

 

Phm_1:8 CAB  Therefore, having much boldness in Christ to command you what is fitting,

 

Rev_3:10 CAB  Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of testing which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those that dwell upon the earth.

 

Kings Commands

 

1Sa_22:14 CAB  And he answered the king, and said, And who is there among all your servants as faithful as David, and he is a son-in-law of the king, and he is executor of all your commands, and is honorable in your house?

 

2Sa_4:12 CAB  And David commanded his young men, and they killed them, and cut off their hands and their feet; and they hung them up at the fountain in Hebron. And they buried the head of Ishbosheth in the tomb of Abner the son of Ner.

 

2Sa_11:19 CAB  And he commanded the messenger, saying, When you have finished reporting all the events of the war to the king,

 

2Sa_13:28 CAB  And Absalom commanded his servants, saying, Take notice when the heart of Amnon shall be merry with wine, and I shall say to you, Smite Amnon, and kill him: fear not; for is it not I that command you? Be courageous, and be valiant.

 

2Sa_13:29 CAB  And the servants of Absalom did to Amnon as Absalom commanded them. And all the sons of the king rose up, and they mounted every man his mule, and fled.

 

2Sa_18:5 CAB  And the king commanded Joab and Abishai and Ittai, saying, Spare the young man Absalom for my sake. And all the people heard the king charging all the commanders concerning Absalom.

 

1Ki_5:6 CAB  And now command, and let men cut wood for me out of Lebanon. And behold, my servants shall be with your servants, and I will give you the wages of your service, according to all that you shall say, because you know that we have no one skilled in cutting timber like the Sidonians.

 

2Ki_16:16 CAB  And Urijah the priest did according to all that King Ahaz commanded him.

 

2Ki_18:36 CAB  But the men were silent, and answered him not a word; for there was a commandment of the king, saying, You shall not answer him.

 

2Ki_22:12 CAB  And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achobor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asaiah the king's servant, saying,

 

2Ki_23:35 CAB  And Jehoiakim gave the silver and the gold to Pharaoh; but he assessed the land to give the money at the command of Pharaoh: they gave the silver and the gold, each man according to his assessment, together with the people of the land to give to Pharaoh Necho.

 

2Ch_18:30 CAB  Now the king of Syria had commanded the captains of the chariots that were with him, saying, Fight neither against small nor great, but only against the king of Israel.

 

2Ch_34:20 CAB  And the king commanded Hilkiah, Ahikam the son of Shaphan, Abdon the son of Micah, Shaphan the scribe, and Asaiah the servant of the king, saying,

 

2Ch_35:10 CAB  And the service was duly ordered, and the priests stood in their place, and the Levites in their divisions, according to the command of the king.

 

2Ch_35:15 CAB  And the sons of Asaph the psalm-singers were at their post according to the commands of David, and Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun, the prophets of the king. Also, the chiefs and the porters of the several gates-it was not for them to stir from the service of the holy things, for their brethren the Levites prepared for them.

 

2Ch_36:4 CAB  And Pharaoh Necho made Eliakim the son of Josiah king over Judah in the place of his father Josiah, and changed his name to Jehoiakim. And Pharaoh Necho took his brother Jehoahaz and brought him into Egypt, and he died there; but he had given the silver and gold to Pharaoh. At that time the land began to be taxed to give the money at the command of Pharaoh; and everyone as he could borrowed the silver and the gold of the people of the land, to give to Pharaoh Necho.

 

1Sa_22:14 CAB  And he answered the king, and said, And who is there among all your servants as faithful as David, and he is a son-in-law of the king, and he is executor of all your commands, and is honorable in your house?

 

2Sa_11:19 CAB  And he commanded the messenger, saying, When you have finished reporting all the events of the war to the king,

 

 

2Sa_13:29 CAB  And the servants of Absalom did to Amnon as Absalom commanded them. And all the sons of the king rose up, and they mounted every man his mule, and fled.

 

 

2Sa_18:5 CAB  And the king commanded Joab and Abishai and Ittai, saying, Spare the young man Absalom for my sake. And all the people heard the king charging all the commanders concerning Absalom.

 

2Ki_16:16 CAB  And Urijah the priest did according to all that King Ahaz commanded him.

 

 

2Ki_18:36 CAB  But the men were silent, and answered him not a word; for there was a commandment of the king, saying, You shall not answer him.

 

 

2Ki_22:12 CAB  And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achobor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asaiah the king's servant, saying,

 

 

2Ch_18:30 CAB  Now the king of Syria had commanded the captains of the chariots that were with him, saying, Fight neither against small nor great, but only against the king of Israel.

 

 

2Ch_34:20 CAB  And the king commanded Hilkiah, Ahikam the son of Shaphan, Abdon the son of Micah, Shaphan the scribe, and Asaiah the servant of the king, saying,

 

 

2Ch_35:10 CAB  And the service was duly ordered, and the priests stood in their place, and the Levites in their divisions, according to the command of the king.

 

 

2Ch_35:15 CAB  And the sons of Asaph the psalm-singers were at their post according to the commands of David, and Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun, the prophets of the king. Also, the chiefs and the porters of the several gates-it was not for them to stir from the service of the holy things, for their brethren the Levites prepared for them.

 

 

2Ch_36:4 CAB  And Pharaoh Necho made Eliakim the son of Josiah king over Judah in the place of his father Josiah, and changed his name to Jehoiakim. And Pharaoh Necho took his brother Jehoahaz and brought him into Egypt, and he died there; but he had given the silver and gold to Pharaoh. At that time the land began to be taxed to give the money at the command of Pharaoh; and everyone as he could borrowed the silver and the gold of the people of the land, to give to Pharaoh Necho.

 

Neh_11:23 CAB  for so was the king's commandment concerning them.

 

 

Est_1:15 CAB  and reported to him according to the laws how it was proper to do to Queen Vashti, because she had not done the things commanded of the king by the eunuchs.

 

 

Est_2:13 CAB  And then the young woman goes in to the king; and the officer to whoever he shall give the command, will bring her to come in with him from the women's apartment to the king's chamber.

 

 

Est_2:15 CAB  And when the time was fulfilled for Esther, the daughter of Aminadab, the brother of Mordecai's father to go in to the king, she neglected nothing which the eunuch, the women's keeper, commanded; for Esther found grace in the sight of all that looked upon her.

 

Est_3:3 CAB  And those in the king's palace said to Mordecai, Mordecai, why do you transgress the commands of the king?

 

 

Est_3:4 CAB  Thus they spoke daily to him, but he hearkened not unto them; so they told it to Haman that Mordecai resisted the commands of the king; and Mordecai had shown to them that he was a Jew.

 

 

Est_3:12 CAB  So the king's recorders were called in the first month, on the thirteenth day, and they wrote as Haman commanded to the captains and governors in every province, from India even to Ethiopia, to a hundred and twenty-seven provinces, and to the rulers of the nations according to their many languages, in the name of King Artaxerxes.

 

 

Est_3:13 CAB  And the message was sent by posts throughout the kingdom of Artaxerxes, to utterly destroy the race of the Jews on the first day of the twelfth month, which is Adar, and to plunder their goods. And the following is the copy of the letter: The great King Artaxerxes writes thus to the rulers and inferior governors of a hundred and twenty-seven provinces, from India even to Ethiopia, who hold authority under him. Ruling over many nations, and having obtained dominion over the whole world, I was minded, (not elated by the confidence of power but ever conducting myself with great moderation and with gentleness) to make the lives of my subjects continually tranquil, desiring both to maintain the kingdom quite and orderly to its utmost limits, and to restore the peace desired by all men. But when I had inquired of my counselors how this should be brought to pass, Haman, who excels in sound judgment among us, and has been manifestly well inclined without wavering and with unshaken fidelity, and has obtained the second post in the kingdom, informed us that a certain ill-disposed people is mixed up with all the tribes throughout the world, opposed in their laws to every other nation, and continually neglecting the commands of the kings, so that the united government blamelessly administered by us is not quietly established. Having then conceived that this nation alone of all others is continually set in opposition to every man, introducing as a change a foreign code of laws, and injuriously plotting to accomplish the worst of evils against our interests, and against the happy establishment of the monarchy; we have accordingly appointed those who are signified to you in the letters written by Haman, who is set over the public affairs and is our second governor, to utterly destroy them all with their wives and children by the swords of the enemies, without pitying or sparing any, on the fourteenth day of the twelfth month (which is Adar) of the present year; that the people aforetime and now ill-disposed to us having been violently consigned to death in one day, may hereafter secure to us continually a well- constituted and quiet state of affairs.

 

 

Est_8:8 CAB  Write also in my name, as it seems good to you, and seal it with my ring; for whatever orders are written at the command of the king, and sealed with my ring, it is not lawful to revoke them.

 

 

Est_8:9 CAB  So the scribes were called in the first month, which is Nisan, on the twenty-third day of the same year. And orders were written concerning the Jews, whatever the king had commanded to the local governors and chiefs of the satraps, from India even to Ethiopia, a hundred and twenty-seven satraps, according to the several provinces, according to their dialects.

 

Est_8:14 CAB  So the horsemen went forth with haste to perform the king's commands; and the ordinance was also published in Susa.

 

 

Pro_24:22 CAB  For they will suddenly punish the ungodly, and who can know the vengeance inflicted by both? (24:22A) A son that keeps the commandment shall escape destruction, for such a one has fully received it. (24:22B) Let no falsehood be spoken by the king from the tongue; yea, let no falsehood proceed from his tongue. (24:22C) The king's tongue is a sword, and not one of flesh; and whosoever shall be given up to it shall be destroyed: (24:22D) for if his wrath should be provoked, he destroys men with cords, (24:22E) and devours men's bones, and burns them up as a flame, so that they are not even fit to be eaten by the young eagles. (24:22F) My son, honor my words, and receive them, and repent.

 

Pro_30:27 CAB  The locusts have no king, and yet they march orderly at one command.

 

Isa_36:21 CAB  And they were silent, and none answered him a word; because the king had commanded that none should answer.

 

 

Jer_32:35 CAB  And they built to Baal the altars that are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to offer their sons and their daughters to King Moloch; which things I commanded them not, neither came it into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

 

 

Jer_36:26 CAB  And the king commanded Jerahmeel the king's son, and Shelemiah the son of Abdeel, to take Baruch and Jeremiah, but they were hidden.

 

 

Jer_37:21 CAB  Then the king commanded, and they cast him into the prison, and gave him a loaf a day out of the place where they bake, until the bread failed out of the city. So Jeremiah continued in the court of the prison.

 

 

Jer_38:10 CAB  And the king commanded Ebed-Melech, saying, Take with you thirty men from here, and bring him up out of the dungeon, that he die not.

 

 

Dan_1:4 CAB  young men in whom was no blemish, and beautiful in appearance, and skilled in all wisdom, and possessing knowledge, and acquainted with prudence, and who had ability to stand in the house before the king, and the king gave commandment to teach them the knowledge and language of the Chaldeans.

 

Dan_2:12 CAB  Then the king in rage and anger commanded to destroy all the wise men of Babylon.

 

 

Dan_2:15 CAB  Chief magistrate of the king, why has this shameless command proceeded from the king? So Arioch made known the matter to Daniel.

 

 

Dan_3:13 CAB  Then Nebuchadnezzar, in wrath and anger, commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. And they were brought before the king.

 

 

Dan_5:29 CAB  Then Belshazzar commanded, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put the golden chain about his neck, and proclaimed concerning him that he was the third ruler in the kingdom.

 

Dan_6:9 CAB  Then King Darius commanded the decree to be written.

 

 

Dan_6:24 CAB  And the king commanded, and they brought the men that had accused Daniel, and they were cast into the den of lions, they, their children, and their wives. And they did not reach the bottom of the den before the lions overpowered them, and utterly broke to pieces all their bones.

 

 

Jon_3:7 CAB  And proclamation was made, and it was commanded in Nineveh by the king and by his great men, saying, Let not men, or cattle, or oxen, or sheep, taste any thing, nor feed, nor drink water.

 

 

Mat_14:9 CAB  And the king was grieved, but because of the oaths, and because of those who reclined to eat with him, he commanded it to be given.

 

 

Mar_6:27 CAB  And immediately the king, having sent an executioner, commanded his head to be brought. And having departed, he beheaded him in the prison,

 

 

Luk_19:15 CAB  And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, that he commanded those servants to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, so that he might know who gained what by trading.

 

 

God Commands People and Animals

 

1Ki_17:4 CAB  And it shall be that you shall drink water of the brook, and I will command the ravens to feed you there.

 

1Ki_17:9 CAB  Arise, and go to Zarephath of the Sidonians; behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to provide for you.

 

 

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Philippian Jailor Came Trembling Before the Feet of Paul & Silas

Act_16:25-34 CAB  Now about midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them.  26  And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and all the bonds were loosed.  27  And becoming awake, the prison keeper, seeing the doors of the prison open, drawing a sword, he was about to kill himself, supposing the prisoners to have escaped.  28  But Paul called out with a loud voice, saying, "Do to yourself nothing bad, for we are all here."  29  And asking for a light he rushed in, and coming trembling, he fell before Paul and Silas,  30  and he brought them forth outside and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"  31  And they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, you and your household."  32  And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all those in his house.  33  And taking them along in that same hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he and all his family were baptized.  34  And bringing them up into his house, he set a meal before them; and he rejoiced with his whole house, having believed in God.

 

This definitely and clearly proves that the apostles do not always lift people up when they bow to them.

> update biblical Bowing <==> Submission

 

 

The Point

- prepare yourselves to always be ready to take orders

- we are in an army

- apostacy flares up (like a foolish hot-head) when the minimal fruit of not willfully sinning is demanded

- thow we are gentle, you should count that as an overflowing and supeerceeding favor, while telling your own soul, "we are only unprofitable servants... It would be enough for us to recieve the rare oportunity to simply do our duty"

- though we are gentle, seasons do come where obedience is demanded.

- if someone bends over backward to save you and bear with you, don't be proud, audatious, puffed up with insatiable pride and arogent folly beyond all measure and count that which you do not deserve as though it were a right, as though proclaimers and life guards owe you anything! As though you even deserve truth to go into your ears!

- demand friut from yourself, and don't begine to think that it is strang for more to be demanded of you after patience has been long invested in you.

 

 

 

What Should we do about Leading?

~2009-2013 (See: Getting Synchronized); 2/20/17 (recompiled)

 

- It is not given to a leader (of God’s Assembly) to "lead upon" other people

- If a leader ever leads, it must be because the people insist on following

- but let every leader be quick to serve and quick humble himself, and let no one lay any corporate responsibility on him unless they corporately insist on zealously following in faith

- Usurping influence upon the assembly and competing for leadership disqualifies a recipient/ follower from all of the benefits that a leader may wish upon them

- subjection forces the best upon those who follow, on out of one who leads (if he has any righteousness and faith)

 

Our Subjection To Leadership Is In Faith When It Looks Like This:

~2009-2013 (See: Getting Synchronized); 2/20/17 (recompiled)

 

- It is helpful that we do not all lead the same way as each other, or even at the same time as each other

- Everyone has their place, that is, if we are going to go in one direction and it seems good to all of us to believe that God has desired what we have set our hand and hearts to do.

- If you believe in our gathering, that it is unto righteousness, then we will have to do things with much more refinement than the way world meets, if we are going to carry through with our actions

 

- If you set the pace, then you are leading

- If you set what times we begin and end, then you are leading

- If you do something different when we were asked to meet at a certain time, then you are not following, but leading

- If you tell instead of ask, then you are the one setting the pace, another is not leading

- Asking is the solution to all kinds of potential offenses

- You can avoid ever usurping charge over the situation if you always ask

 

- if you are unsure about when to add your influence, then ask: would they want me to do this?

 

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There may be areas and time where we sometimes stumble in some of these things, and there may be many times that aparent disrespect almost cannot be avoided while seriously trying to pay attention and honor people, and in this we must all be committed to 'not hearing our servant curse us in their hearts,' but to whatever degree we have oportunity, let us increase in these areas, away from chaos and unto order, dignaty, honor and the agreement of being in one accord.

 

Where:

- Each member has equal concern for all the other memebers

 

 

 

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6/29/16

Psa_113:4 KJV+  The LORDH3068 is highH7311 aboveH5921 allH3605 nations,H1471 and his gloryH3519 aboveH5921 the heavens.H8064

Psa_113:4 The Lord is high above all the nations; His glory is above the heavens.

Psa_113:4  (112:4) ὑψηλὸς ἐπὶ πάντα τὰ ἔθνη ὁ κύριος, ἐπὶ τοὺς οὐρανοὺς ἡ δόξα αὐτοῦ.

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>>2Pe_2:10 –  the principal of despising authority

 

 

 

>>> Look at and integrate old non web page submission Bible Study

then include the following...

bar mitzfa

Also consider the principal of bar mitzfa, which is approved by Jesus’ example:

Luke_2:7, 22-24, 40-52

As well as the gentiles of Galatia:

Gal_4:1-3

 

Women do not have a “coming of age” (and “independence”) like this, except that they are married off to their husband. We know this not only because the Bible specifies males and not females for this practice, but also we know there was not a “coming of age” for a woman, because the liberal Jews had to recently invent their erroneous “bat mitzvah” for women.  If it were already there, they would not have to invent one for the sake of “liberating” women.

 

The Biblically approved practice of bar mitzfa and the complete absence and opposition of any kind of “bat mitzvah” in the Scriptures shows that women are never intended to gain their independence as men do. Divorce and widowhood are the only two cases were a woman is “on her own,” and even then it seems they are encouraged to take refuge under authority (as in 1 Tim 5, etc.)

 

This is in complete accord with Num 30 and many other Scriptures that show this very same thing.

 

Expansion project:

 

Merge into here Previous Bible study on how Jacob re-submitted until 50 much Like Jesus re-submitted when He was in their house:

Jesus observed in Luke_2:7, 22-24, 40-52.

- make much more of this, and te following:

Num 30

Act 13 missionaries

 

 

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How might this apply to submitting to authorities?

 

Respect Elders:

Lev_19:32;

 

Even to the forward

 

We could gather from all of these Scriptures: “If it is possible, as much as it is up to you…” – SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY

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