Discipleship Training Apprenticeship

Becoming a Real Apprentice-Learner of the REAL Jesus by Obeying Those He Sent

 and Finding The Path of True, Original Christianity

The Submissive Obedience you Have to do to the Divine Truth on Earth in Order to Inherit the Kingdom of Heaven

The pursuit of becoming Apprentice Learners of Jesus

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

12/28/07 (original title: Discipleship); 1/6/08 (Original Sunday Morning Presentation); 5/18/08; 5/30/09; 8/19/09; (7/24/10); (3/14/11; 3/21/11 – Asks Questions); 10/17/11; 10/19/11; 1/29/12-1/30/12; 2/17/12; 4/10/12-4/11/12; 5/20/12; 9/15/12; 9/27/12; 11/28/12 (added Wis_4:1-2); 7/22/13-7/23/13 (Independent Salvation); 2/22/14; 8/6/16; 2/13/17 (retitled: Saving Discipleship); 2/21/17 (recompiled Foundations); 3/24/17; other date(s); 2/8/19; 3/15/21; 3/31/21-4/1/21

 

Compare: Salvation Basics

 

Intro

·        Discipleship Training Apprenticeship (DTA) comes from the Biblical word for discipleship: μαθητὴς.

·        You have to be a Biblical disciple to inherit heaven: Luk_14:25-35.

·        Biblical discipleship starts with baptism…

·        You Have to Have a Matthew 28 (ObeyAll) Romans 6 (NoSin) Baptism to Inherit Heaven.

·        Biblical discipleship means Obeying all the Bible and Stopping All Sin.
see: Salvation Basics

·        If you are still sinning and not obeying All the Bible then your baptism was useless and you have not been discipled or saved.

·        (Keep reading if you want to know a little bit about what Biblical discipleship is all about...)

 

-- Under Construction --

 

These are unfinished notes for our community.

Like usual, in cases like this, you should contact us so that we can teach you all of these exciting and helpful things.

 

 

>> TODO/ Additions!

Mediators vs. Priests

>> PeopleCanSavePeople

Independent Salvation

The Value of the Individual

 

Forsake All

Distinctions Between God and Man

Waiting for Believers to Believe

Salvation

Great Commission

 

Recompiled:

Assuming Non-Inspiration

Believe in God on Earth

Divine Mistakes

 

 

Contents

Intro. 1

Preface. 2

1. Defining Discipleship. 2

Language (“Etymology”) – What is a Disciple?. 2

Functional Definitions of Discipleship. 3

Discipleship Digs Deep. 4

Disciples Are Eager for Discipleship. 5

2. The Proof of Discipleship. 6

Are you Truly Following Jesus?. 7

Discipleship Scarcity. 8

A Problem.. 8

How Do You Know When You’re REAL?. 9

Are You Paying the Price of Discipleship?. 9

Are You Disciplined and Committed to Discipleship?. 10

Personal Proofs of Discipleship. 11

Disciples Discontinue Depravity. 11

The Hard-Core Way. 12

3. Imitation – Where We Finally Find Out if You Are a Real Disciple! 12

Intro Basics – The Solid Proclamation of Imitation. 12

My Gospel; Our Gospel 14

The Gospel I Preach. 14

Imitate me and Peace Will be with You. 15

Humility Produces Real Discipleship that Actually Imitates! 15

Mediators vs. Priests. 16

Saul Proves that Your Personal Relationship Sends you to Hell 16

4. The Hope & Reward of Discipleship. 20

Confronting The Heresy Of No New Revelation. 21

Salvation. 21

Salvation Defined. 21

Terms of Salvation. 22

Two Aspects. 22

What is Eternal Life. 22

Common Belief / Superstition Does not Save. 22

Great Commission. 22

Summary Preview of Commissions. 23

The Pre-commissions – The 12 Sent Out 23

The Pre-commissions – The 70 Sent Out 23

(B) The Great Commission. 23

(C) The Pre-commissions Compared with the Great Commission. 23

You are Imagining Yourself on the Wrong Side. 24

Commission Initiated. 24

The Commission Rebooted Today! 24

Forsake All 24

How to Successfully Call up on Jesus' Name. 28

We do not Preach Ourselves. 29

 

Especially See:

Preface | Language… What is a “Disciple” | Functional Definitions of Discipleship | Mat 7 | Luk_14:25 | Mat_10:32-39

 

The MP3 of this teaching should be available at:

www.trueconnection.org/av/Discipleship_1.6.08_ED.mp3

(The MP3 is only a brief overview of all the details that you can see here below)

 

Preface

If you are an American christian beware! The path that Jesus trod and set for us and our salvation is one of discipleship rather than the theoretical and shallow commitment of converts that we see in most churches in Westernized culture. If we don’t follow this extreme and unpopular path that Jesus called being His apprentice learner (or “disciple”), we only have the Broadway to Hell and destruction as our alternative!

Avail yourself to know and understand this eternal distinction called “Discipleship.”

 

Intro Requirements For Discipleship from The Righteous

4/3/15

Faith -- believe in Prophet

forsake all (Stuff & Sin)

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

Discipleship

 

Shocking Truth You Need to Learn

Repenting of your god and obeying someone else’s God is the only way you can go to heaven. 9/25/13

>> get other quotes from insp

 

Intro

 

1. Defining Discipleship

Below: A. Language… – What is a “Disciple” | B. Functional Definitions of Discipleship

 

Language (“Etymology”) – What is a Disciple?

 

(1) The Hebrew ָלַמד (lāmaḏ) is literally “to goad, that is, (by implication) to teach (the rod being an Oriental incentive)” (Strong’s on H3925), or (depending on grammar) to learn.  Lāmaḏ (H3925) naturally produces ִלמּוּד (limmûḏ), (H3928) which is basically someone who is taught.*

 

[* Technical Grammar Note: the first word is an action verb and the second is a descriptive adjective – but isn’t it like noun (thing/person)?]

 

“...the acquisition of instruction...” (The Complete Word Study Dictionary on H3925)

[Disclaimer Note: The Complete Word Study Dictionary is a heretical resource. I am only referencing it for this limited purpose.]

[Technical Grammar: “to teach” would be the “active voice” while “...the acquisition of instruction...” – wouldn’t this be the “middle voice”?]

 

(2) The Greek μανθάνω (manthanō), (G3129) very simply means to learn, and this produces μαθητής (mathētḗs), (G3101) a learner. But to be a learner in ancient cultures usually implied the seriousness of an apprentice learner.

 

[Strong’s: G3129: “…to learn (in any way)”; G3101: “…a learner, that is, pupil …”]

 

(3) The English word “disciple” ends up “…coming to English by way of the Latin discipulus meaning ‘a learner’.”

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple_%28Christianity%29]

 

(4) The Bible is very clear that becoming an apprentice learner (that is, discipleship) is the only way to heaven, and it is not some advanced form of christianity, but that it is indeed, the one and only form of ancient, original, historical, True, Biblical Christianity:

 

Read

Mat_28:19-20; Mar_16:20 – ‘go make disciples’/ ‘go apprentice people as learners’ (etc.)/ “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved” (Mar_16:16 CAB)

Act_11:26 – “...And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” (CAB)

 

It is clear that there is no difference from a real Biblical Christian and a disciple. We ought to reject the common heresy of easy-believeism which insults the entire body of Truth by implying that christians need not necessarily be full-fledged disciples in order to go to heaven, as though a person could be saved from eternal hell without truly and completely forsaking everything to follow Jesus and becoming His extreme and devoted learner through those He sent them (see Matthew and Mark referenced previously).

 

(5) For a Summary we could almost say that a disciple simply means a student, but this means so much more than something as shallow as “intellectual instruction” as we are prone to think of it. To those in the Bible, truly learning is more like apprenticeship, and this is why we use the word “disciple”, avoiding the shallow assumptions Westernized thinkers often connect to “learning.” This Divine apprenticeship is the only way to follow Jesus and be saved from sin and hell unto eternal glory with Him forever.

 

Functional Definitions of Discipleship

 

Discipleship…

·        Is training in righteousness by a real man or woman of God to fully obey and follow Jesus.

·        Is a mentoring process to become a man or woman of God.

·        Means being committed to this process of mentoring and training.

·        Is harder than you ever expected, and infinitely more rewarding than you ever dreamed.

·        Filters and separates the modern christian from someone who is REALLY following Jesus.

·        Weeds out the fake and shallow, from the truly committed.

 

·        When someone is ready to commit to discipleship, that’s when you know they’re really ready to commit to following Jesus.

      - Do these things describe you?

·        Making disciples is sealing the deal to call people to absolute and total commitment to live according to the eternal mandates of the Bible.

·        Saying, “I don’t need training…” is saying, “I don’t need Jesus’ way of getting to God” – You are rejecting Jesus’ only provision for salvation because He’s the One that ordained discipleship: Mat_28:18-20 (“Make disciples”) Luk_10:16; Mat_10:40; Joh_13:20 (“Whoever listens to you, listens to me”).

·        Humanism says, “I worship God in my own way” and “I don’t need anyone to help me know God… I trust my own heart to guide me to him.”

 

Are you a follower of Jesus and the Bible (including those He sent you) or are you an independent follower of Humanism?

 

Pro_14:12 CAB  There is a way which seems to be right with men, but the ends of it reach to the depths of hell.

 

We think we came up with this independent idea ourselves, but actually we’re our culture’s disciples when we think like this.

 

MT Refs:

Pro_28:26 KJ2000  He that trusts in his own heart is a fool: but whosoever walks wisely, he shall be delivered.

 

Jer_17:9 KJV  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

 

Pro_14:12 WEB  There is a way which seems right to a man, But in the end it leads to death.

 

Also see: Psa_51:5 (naturally corrupt); Ecc_9:3 (full of evil); Mar_7:21-23 (you sin because there’s sin in your heart)

 

·        According to the Bible, we stand in desperate need of Jesus’ discipleship, and He has ordained that this training be done through submitting to other people that He has put in a person’s life as ambassadors of His proclamation (such as, Apostles, Overseers, Leaders, Mentors, etc.).

·        Truly, we ALL stand in desperate need… the question is: are we going to walk in foolish self-confidence relying on ourselves, or are we going to acknowledge our need and embrace discipleship?

 

A Disciple Asks Questions

>> combine with “Questions” below!

- A disciples is a learner

 

General Thoughts

- This is always followed by a hunger for truth, and - interestingly enough this always plays out in eager, faith demanding questions

 

- So many people want to think what they want to think, but Jesus' learners have renounced this insubordination to obey absolute truth

 

- If you need training, it is your responsibility to 'cry out for it' (compare Pro)

 

- If you disagree with or do not understand the direction of things, it is your responsibility to be a learner and find out what is the truth behind the matter

 

Fleshly Contentment to not do more Justice

- So many people dangerously want to think various ways but then do not make hearing truth a priority (do not forsake... but provoke so no hardness)

 

- If you are being tempted to think what you want to think, if you are going to be in league with Jesus, it is your duty and crying need to chase after truth and help

 

Discipleship Digs Deep

 

Jer_13:23 CAB  If the Ethiopian H3569/ G128 shall change his skin, or the leopardess her spots, then shall you be able to do good, having learned H3928/ G3129 [MT: למדי (limmûd); LXX: μεμαθηκότες (memathēkotes)– that is, having been discipled/ trained] to do evil.

 

[“Ethiopian” (H3569/ G128) – Hebrew (H3569) כושׁי (kûshîy*) – i.e. A Cushite/ a descendant of Cush, son of Ham (Gen_10:6); Greek (G128) Αθοψ** (Aithiops) – literally means someone with a burnt (αθ) face (οψ) speaking of the adjusted skin color of their face (same as in Num_12 and Act_8:27); From all of this we eventually get “Ethiopian”; i.e. the African descendants of Cush]

 

Jer_13:23 KJ2000  Can the EthiopianH3569/ G128 change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may you also do good, that are accustomedH3928/ G3129 to doing evil.

 

·        The “leopardess” is obviously not sinning by having her spots, just like the African is not tainted by the uniqueness of the color of his face, but from these analogies we see the deep set nature that describes discipleship.

·        When you’ve TRULY been discipled it becomes cemented in you as a solid part of your nature!

·        When you’ve TRULY been discipled it becomes as pronounced as the skin on your face!

·        Mat_7:16-23 “You will know them by their fruits”

·        Is discipleship where you are going?  Or are you drifting spiritually? (You’re not going to get godly by accident.)

·         Ultimately, whoever you are learning from and imitating, you are being discipled by these same people.

 

Also Compare:

The Disciples of John: Mat_11:2; Mar_2:18; Luk_5:33; Luk_7:18; Joh_3:25

Said to be of Moses: Joh_9:28

The disciples of the Pharisees: Mar_2:18

 

Details:

From the Hebrew Old Testament (the original language), and the Greek Old Testament (The “LXX” translated ~200BC and quoted throughout the New Testament)

 

Disciples Are Eager for Discipleship

 

Questions

If you are a disciple and don’t understand, then you will ask questions as they did: Mat_13:10; Mat_13:36;  Mat_15:12; Mat_24:1; Mat_24:3; Mat_26:17

 

It is Not “Forced” Externally

 

Act_2:41-42 KJV  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.  42  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

Ruth’s Example

Rth 1:15 WEB  She said, Behold, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people, and to her god: return after your sister-in-law.

Rth 1:15 KJV+  And she said,H559 Behold,H2009 thy sister in lawH2994 is gone backH7725 untoH413 her people,H5971 and untoH413 her gods:H430 returnH7725 thou afterH310 thy sister in law.H2994

Rth 1:15 LB  And Naomi said to Ruth, “Behold, your sister-in-law has returned to her people and to her gods; turn now also after your sister-in-law.”

Rth 1:15  καὶ εἶπεν Νωεμιν πρὸς Ρουθ Ἰδοὺ ἀνέστρεψεν ἡ σύννυμφός σου πρὸς λαὸν αὐτῆς καὶ πρὸς τοὺς θεοὺς αὐτῆς· ἐπιστράφητι δὴ καὶ σὺ ὀπίσω τῆς συννύμφου σου.

Rth 1:16 WEB  Ruth said, "Don't entreat me to leave you, and to return from following after you, for where you go, I will go; and where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God;

Rth 1:16 KJV+  And RuthH7327 said,H559 IntreatH6293 me notH408 to leaveH5800 thee, or to returnH7725 from following afterH4480 H310 thee: forH3588 whitherH413 H834 thou goest,H1980 I will go;H1980 and whereH834 thou lodgest,H3885 I will lodge:H3885 thy peopleH5971 shall be my people,H5971 and thy GodH430 my God:H430

Rth 1:16 LB  And Ruth said, “Do not urge me to leave you, or to return from following you; for wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God.

Rth 1:16  εἶπεν δὲ Ρουθ Μὴ ἀπαντήσαι ἐμοὶ τοῦ καταλιπεῖν σε ἢ ἀποστρέψαι ὄπισθέν σου· ὅτι σὺ ὅπου ἐὰν πορευθῇς, πορεύσομαι, καὶ οὗ ἐὰν αὐλισθῇς, αὐλισθήσομαι· ὁ λαός σου λαός μου, καὶ ὁ θεός σου θεός μου·

>> Sync: Dis | Lux

 

Rth_1:15-16 WEB  She said, Behold, your sister-in-law is gone back to her people, and to her god: return you after your sister-in-law.  16  Ruth said, "Don't entreat me to leave you, and to return from following after you, for where you go, I will go; and where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God;

 

We can see the desperation and determined eagerness of Ruth in this example. Are you like this? Do you see truth from men or women of God like this? If you do not know any real men or women of God (which is almost always the case in this age) are you desperately seeking them out and crying out to God to send you help so you can make it, or are you doing just fine sitting by yourself on your own spiritual island? Answering this question determines if you are like the blessed Ruth or if you are walking in the shameful way of the cursed children of rebellion, self-sufficiency, and competence.

 

This is what real salvation looks like:

 

Zec_8:23 CAB  We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you.

 

Elijah and Elisha

2Ki_2:1-15 CAB  And it came to pass, when the Lord was about to take Elijah with a whirlwind into heaven, that Elijah and Elisha went out of Gilgal.  2  And Elijah said to Elisha, Stay here, please; for God has sent me to Bethel. And Elisha said, As the Lord lives and your soul lives, I will not leave you; so they came to Bethel.  3  And the sons of the prophets who were in Bethel came to Elisha, and said to him, Do you know that the Lord this day is going to take away your master from over you? And he said, Yes, I know it; be silent.  4  And Elijah said to Elisha, Stay here, please; for the Lord has sent me to Jericho. And he said, As the Lord lives and as your soul lives, I will not leave you. And they came to Jericho.  5  And the sons of the prophets who were in Jericho drew near to Elisha, and said to him, Do you know that the Lord this day is going to take away your master from over you? And he said, Yes, I know it; hold your peace.  6  And Elijah said to him, Stay here please, for the Lord has sent me to the Jordan. And Elisha said, As the Lord lives and as your soul lives, I will not leave you. And they both went on.  7  And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went also, and they stood opposite afar off; and both stood on the bank of the Jordan.  8  And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and struck the water, and the water was divided on this side and on that side, and they both went over on dry ground.  9  And it came to pass while they were crossing over, that Elijah said to Elisha, Ask what I shall do for you before I am taken up from you. And Elisha said, Let there be a double portion of your spirit upon me.  10  And Elijah said, You have asked a hard thing: if you shall see me when I am taken up from you, then shall it be so to you; and if not, it shall not be so.  11  And it came to pass as they were going, they went on talking; and behold, a chariot of fire appeared, with horses of fire, and it separated the two of them; and Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind into heaven.  12  And Elisha saw, and cried, Father, father, the chariot of Israel, and its horseman! [i.e. Elisha laments the fact that God is removing Elijah from Israel] And he saw him no more. And he took hold of his garments, and tore them into two pieces.  13  And he took up the mantle of Elijah, which fell from off him upon Elisha; and Elisha returned, and stood upon the brink of the Jordan;  14  and he took the mantle of Elijah, which fell from off him, and struck the water, and said, Where is the Lord God of Elijah? And he struck the waters, and they were divided this way and that; and Elisha went over.  15  And the sons of the prophets who were in Jericho on the opposite side saw him, and said, The spirit of Elijah has rested upon Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed down before him to the ground.

 

Do you see the desperate, determined, eager posture of Elisha toward Elijah to get the same spiritual greatness he had from God? Does this describe your attitude toward discipleship? Are you a real, Biblical follower of Jesus? Do you need the greatness Elijah has, or are you cursing yourself on your own path of worthlessness, dull-heartedness, and self-sufficiency?

 

2. The Proof of Discipleship

 

Are you Truly Following Jesus?

 

Joh_6:45 WEB  It is written in the prophets, 'They will all be taught by God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned [μαθωνG3129 – i.e. been discipled], comes to me.

 

(Also in Mat_11:27-30 “come to me… learn from me”)

 

If you hear God in your own prayer closet, then you will come to those God has sent on earth.

 

>> From NJ Message…

“Mr. Too Quick”

Mat_8:19-20 WEB  A scribe came, and said to him, "Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go."  20  Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head."

 

“Mr. Too Slow”

Mat_8:21-23  Another of his disciples said to him, "Lord, allow me first to go and bury my father."  22  But Jesus said to him, "Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead."  23  When he got into a boat, his disciples followed him.

 

Are you forsaking everything and following Him, or stalling in your own path and plans for life?

 

The Rich Young Ruler

Mat_19:16-30; Mar_10:17-31; Luk_18:18-30

Mar_10:17a WEB  As he was going out into the way…

Luk_18:18 WEB  A certain ruler…

Mar_10:17b …ran to him, knelt before him, and said…

Mat_19:16 WEB …"Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mar_10:17c …that I may inherit eternal life?"

 

Jesus lays the Law on him: Mat_19:17-20; Mar_10:18-20; Luk_18:19-21

 

Mat_19:20 WEB  The young man said to him, "All these things I have observed from my youth. What do I still lack?” [i.e. “…that I may inherit eternal life“]

Mar_10:21 WEB  Jesus looking at him loved him, and said to him, "One thing you lack…

Luk_18:22 WEB  "You still lack one thing…

Mat_19:21 KJV  If you want to be complete [τέλειος5046]…

Mar_10:21 WEB …Go, sell whatever you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me, taking up the cross."

Mat_19:22 KJV  But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Luk_18:24 KJV  And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful…

 

Mar_10:23-27 WEB  Jesus looked around, and said to his disciples*, "How difficult it is for those who have riches to enter into the Kingdom of God!"  24  The disciples* were amazed at his words. But Jesus answered again, "Children, how hard is it for those who trust in riches to enter into the Kingdom of God!   25  It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God."  26  They were exceedingly astonished, saying to him, "Then who can be saved?"  27  Jesus, looking at them, said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God, for all things are possible with God.“

 

* Note: “his disciples” did not include The Rich Young Ruler who had walked away, nor will it include you if you do not forsake everything to follow Him (Luk_14:25-35).

 

Exclusivity -- Only 2 directions!

 

Joh_14:6-7 WEB  Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.   7  If you had known me, you would have known my Father also…

 

Joh_6:66-69 WEB  At this, many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.  67  Jesus said therefore to the twelve, "You don't also want to go away, do you?"  68  Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life.  69  We have come to believe and know that you are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

 

Discipleship still works just like this, even unto this very day! Jesus really is our true and faithful example of training people as apprentices. So do you want to leave also, or do you need discipleship more than your very life?

 

Also See These Examples of Jesus’ Disciples Following Him:

Mat_5:1; Mat_9:14; Mat_13:10; Mat_13:36; Mat_14:15; Mat_15:12; Mat_24:1; Mat_24:3; Mat_26:17; Mar_6:35; Luk_6:17; Luk_22:39;

 

From all of these examples, Notice that…

·        Real Disciples always FOLLOW Jesus

·        There are Only Two Directions you can go… If you’re not following Him, where are you going?

·        Discipleship is the only way to follow Jesus to heaven, and it is clear that your own way leads straight to eternal hell.

 

Discipleship Scarcity

 

Only A FEW Are Saved

Mat_7:13-27 – Many in the wide gate saying “lord, lord”, FEW in the Narrow Gate, hearing and doing!

Luk_13:23-24 – "Lord, are they few who are saved?" -- Yes

 

These passages are thoroughly translated and addressed in Letteral Obedience.

 

1Pe_4:17 CAB  For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who are disobedient to the gospel of God?

1Pe_4:17  ὅτι ὁ |Aο TSBο| καιρὸς τοῦ ἄρξασθαι τὸ κρῖμα ἀπὸ τοῦ οἴκου τοῦ Θεοῦ· εἰ δὲ πρῶτον ἀφ᾿ ἡμῶν, τί τὸ τέλος τῶν ἀπειθούντων τῷ τοῦ Θεοῦ εὐαγγελίῳ;

1Pe_4:18  And "If the righteous one is scarcely* [μόλις] saved, where will the godless and the sinner appear?"

1Pe_4:18  καὶ εἰ ὁ δίκαιος μόλις σῴζεται, ὁ ἀσεβὴς καὶ ἁμαρτωλὸς ποῦ φανεῖται;

1Pe_4:18  And if the righteous is scarcely* saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear?

>> Sync: Dis | Fir

 

>> the love of most will grow cold

>> TSK

[* μόλις – with painful difficulty, as if by gaining “wounds” (i.e. μώλωπι)]

 

A Problem

·        Somehow we think that even if we don’t follow Jesus / do what He did we will still somehow end up at the same destination in Heaven.

·        Jesus said there are only two paths (above, & Mat).

·        Either you’re with Him or you’re against Him!

·        Broad or narrow are your two choices!

·        Which extreme are you on? - If you think you’re “in-between,” then you’re on Broadway.

 

Mat_6:24 CAB  "No one is able to serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and he will love the other, or else he will be devoted to the one, and he will despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

 

Mat_12:30 CAB He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

 

Rev_3:15-16 CAB "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot.  16  So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth.

- People ask, “Are you saved?” Real question: Are you burning for Jesus? (Otherwise you are spit out).

 

How Do You Know When You’re REAL?

·        REAL learners (disciples) look and act like their Masters (Mat_10:25; Act_4:13)

·        Not, this attitude that says, “We can go to movies (which Jesus would never watch) and dress how we want (when neither Jesus nor any of the matriarchs would never dress that way) and we can still be happy christians on our way to heaven” (see Rom_6:18-23 – being free from righteousness means not being saved; Gal_6:7-8 “Investing the flesh”)

·        Students of Jesus obey Him as Lord (Rom_10:9; and Scriptures above)

·        You know you’re not learning a thing when your life-style stays the same (2Co_3:18 “Glory to Glory”; Pro_4:18 “brighter shinning light”)

·        If you’re not changing and growing in righteousness and holiness, then you’re dying in sin.

 

Jer_6:16 WEB Thus says Yahweh, Stand you in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way; and walk therein, and you shall find rest for your souls: but they said, We will not walk therein.

Jer_6:16 CAB Thus says the Lord, Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths of the Lord; and see what is the good way and walk in it, and you shall find purification for your souls. But they said, We will not walk in them.

Jer_6:16  τάδε λέγει κύριος Στῆτε ἐπὶ ταῖς ὁδοῖς καὶ ἴδετε, καὶ ἐρωτήσατε τρίβους κυρίου αἰωνίους καὶ ἴδετε, ποία ἐστὶν ἡ ὁδὸς ἡ ἀγαθή, καὶ βαδίζετε ἐν αὐτῇ, καὶ εὑρήσετε ἁγνισμὸν ταῖς ψυχαῖς ὑμῶν· καὶ εἶπαν Οὐ πορευσόμεθα.

Jer_6:17 I set watchmen over you, saying, Listen to the sound of the trumpet; but they said, We will not listen.

Jer_6:17 I have set watchmen over you, saying, Hear the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hear.

Jer_6:17  κατέστακα ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς σκοπούς, ἀκούσατε τῆς φωνῆς τῆς σάλπιγγος· καὶ εἶπαν Οὐκ ἀκουσόμεθα.

 

Are You Paying the Price of Discipleship?

The ONLY Way to Follow Him; This shows where you are really going

 

Forsake ALL

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

Luk_14:25-35 KJB  And great crowds went with him and he turned and said to them,  26  “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, and even his very own soul, his life as well, he cannot be my disciple.  27  And whoever does not bear his cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.  28  Because which of you wanting to build a tower doesn't sit down first and count the cost if he has the means to finish?  29  That it doesn't happen after he has laid the foundation and is not able to finish that all who see it begin to mock him  30  saying, ‘This man began to build, and was not able to finish.’  31  Or what king going to engage another king in war doesn't sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand?  32  But if not, while the other is still a great way off he sends a delegationG4242 and asks for conditions of peace.  33  So in the same way, everyone of you who does not forsake everything that he has cannot be my disciple.  34  Salt is good: but if the salt has lost its flavor how will it be seasoned?  35  It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but they cast it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

 

Details

G4242 - A "delegation," in Greek, "πρεσβειαν" which is made up of elders.

 

Bitter-Sweat News

·        If you’re not His disciple it doesn’t mean you’re a second-rate christian

·        If you’re not His disciple it means you are not a christian at all! (i.e. verses 34-35).

 

Supreme Commitment

Note: This basic translation is in a very early (unfinished) stage

 

Mat_10:32-39 Jos.Trans.  So any and everyone who confesses3670, (1722) me in front of men, I will also confess him in front of my Father who is in the heavens.  33  But whoever will deny me in front of men, I will also deny him in front of my Father who is in the heavens.  34  Don’t think that I came to send peace on earth: I have not come to send peace, but a sword.  35  Because I have come to set a man against his own father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter in law against her mother in law,  36  and a man's enemies will be those of his own household.  37  He that loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and he that loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me,  38  and he that does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.  39  He that finds his soul, his life, will lose it. But he that loses his soul, his life, for my sake will find it.

 

Details

G3670 – This speaks of “confessing together,” meaning, joining with Jesus in front of men

G1722 – This unity “in” Jesus is multiplied by the use of the unrepresented word “εν 1722” (en).

Literally and functionally: “Whoever confesses together [i.e. with me], in me, in front of men”

 

Are You Disciplined and Committed to Discipleship?

 

The Dedication of Discipleship

Act_2:41-44 KJV  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.  42  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.  43  And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.  44  And all that believed were together, and had all things common… 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house…

 

(Also compare: Luk_24:53; Act_1:14, Act_3:1, Act_5:42)

 

·        Making Converts? Not at all! – We’re talking disciples, and not just numbers!

·        This is the natural response of someone who truly finds Jesus!

·        And most churches can’t even get people to stop watching sinful movies

·        But you can tell when someone gets it! You don’t even have to tell them to throw out their bad music

·        Are you wondering why you can’t get your life right? There is a reason why…

 

Summary

·        Do you get the idea yet that Jesus is demanding ALL if you’re going to follow Him?

·        You must Truly Follow Jesus by Paying the Price and submit to the Commitment of discipleship

 

Personal Proofs of Discipleship

When we speak of “committing to discipleship” it is important to be sure to know what I mean. I do not mean going to church or Bible study per se, but I mean being eagerly devoted to gaining the spiritual truth and favor that God has worked in another person no matter what the cost.

    In other words, when someone says, “I want to get somewhere in following Jesus” they often are actually adding to this, “I want you to help me, but I’m not willing to fully commit to getting what you got.” The problem and the limitation comes when people say with their actions, “I want you to tell me a solution that will work and after I try it, I might believe you have something from God if it works.” And “I want what information you know and I want it to help me, but I am not willing to commit to you or trust you.”  But Biblical Discipleship simply never works that way. This level of non-sense is fool hearty and unbelieving! We actually need to leave this shameful perversion in order to even begin discipleship. This is mainly because Jesus said,

 

Mat_12:39-40 CAB …"An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.  40  For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

But if anyone has any favor from God, the only way anyone else will be benefited by it is if those in need believe the one whom God has approved of, that they have what they need. Committing to discipleship means committing to gain the favor that God has entrusted to another person, desperately crying out for what they have which you need for your own life and salvation:

 

Act_11:13-14 CAB And he related to us how he had seen the angel in his house, standing and saying to him, 'Send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter,  14  'who will speak words to you by which you and all your household shall be saved.'

 

Act_10:33 CAB "Therefore immediately I sent to you, and you have done well to come. Now then we are all present before God, to hear all the things having been commanded you by God."

 

Rth_1:16 CAB And Ruth said, Entreat me not to leave you, or to return from following you; for wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God.

 

Gal_4:14 CAB And my trial which was in my flesh you did not despise nor disdain, but as an angel of God you received me, even as Christ Jesus.

 

1Th_2:13 CAB Because of this we also give thanks to God unceasingly, so that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you received not the word of men, but just as it truly is, the word of God, which also is at work in you who believe.

 

(Also see Act_17:10-12)

 

Disciples Discontinue Depravity

 

Act_19:18-19 WEB  Many also of those who had believed came, confessing, and declaring their deeds.  19  Many of those who practiced magical arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. They counted the price of them, and found it to be fifty thousand pieces of silver.

 

It goes without saying that if you are living in any sin you have nothing to do with Biblical Discipleship. Please examine your life and determine whether or not you are a REAL disciple. Make sure that you are not living in sin so that you can qualify as a real learner of Jesus!

 

[Important Note: See the Bible Study on this topic]

 

The Hard-Core Way

 

Jesus Said: Lk. 6:43 For a good tree does not produce bad fruit, nor does a bad tree produce good fruit. 

Mat. 3:10 And now also the ax is laid at the root of the trees, so that every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 

Lk. 6:46 Why do you call me, `Lord, Lord,' and don't do the things which I say?

Jn. 14:15 If you Love Me, keep my commands... 23 ...If anyone loves Me, he will obey my words... 24 He who does not Love me will not obey my words.

 

The Bible Also Says:

1Jn. 2:4 He who says, "I have come to know him," but does not keep His commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him.

1Jn. 3:6-10 Whoever remains in Him does not continue to sin. Whoever continues to sin has not seen Him, or known Him. 7 Little children, don’t let anyone deceive you: he that does what is right is righteous, just as He is righteous.  8 He that continues to sin is of the devil; because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this reason the Son of God was revealed, that He might destroy the works of the devil.  9 Whoever is born of God does not continue to sin; for His seed remains in him: and he cannot go on sinning, because he is born of God.  10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are revealed: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God…

 

3. Imitation – Where We Finally Find Out if You Are a Real Disciple!

Here are some short notes pertaining to the very essence and climax of actually doing discipleship… when you imitate those people that God has left in your life as ambassadors of truth that you are obligated to imitate!

 

 

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10/20/16

Jesus said: follow Me

But people are so rebellious from imitation that, though they say “christ is our example”, amazingly they don’t actually think we have to imitate Him!

Imitation started from the first time someone wanted truth.

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2/12/16

Some church people have discovered that they are supposed to treat children as a blessing instead of a burden.

They can be applauded to the degree that they have trancended their 'planned parenthood culture' and instead have taken a hint from the Scriptures.

 

Although it does not command you to not use birth control, many have discovered that you should not use it because you are supposed to believe they are a blessing, and, that you are blessed when your quiver is full of them...

 

So also, imitation teaches us somthing large and vast and fundamentally orthodox about the nature of the authority of the Scriptures: everything you read is authoritative in the original expression and goal of the text.

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7/31/13

>> this is not a three-way relationship, where you and I both help each other to climb up the pyramid to get to Jesus.  This is a two-way relationship, where Jesus and I look down from heaven and help save your soul from a bottomless pit of hell.

>> why is it that Americans are so blind to what discipleship is?  It is like, no matter what you say to them, they cannot understand what it means to be discipled by a person on behalf of God, so that you need another person in your life in order to go to heaven.

 

Intro Basics – The Solid Proclamation of Imitation

…6/16/16

>> imitate in 1Co_11:

Let this saying sink down in your ears!Discipleship is the one case in life where “imitation” is the only thing that is really genuine.
Note: this is another of those really important sayings that will save your soul if you let it!

 

Why is this true? Because the real discipleship of imitating the truth that God has wisely and sovereignly left in ambassadors on earth is the only way you will have a legitimate, valid, correlating copy of the truth of God which is in heaven! Because of this, most people do not need other people to go to heaven, which is why most people are going to hell.

 

Heb_6:12 WEB  that you won't be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherited the promises.

>> Abraham in next verse!

>> 1Pe_3:1, etc. – imitate Sarah

 

Heb_13:7 WEB  Remember your leaders, men who spoke to you the word of God, and considering the results of their conduct, imitate their faith.

 

1Th_2:12-14 CAB  that you would make your walk worthy of God who calls you into His own kingdom and glory.  13  Because of this we also give thanks to God unceasingly, so that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you received not the word of men, but just as it truly is, the word of God, which also is at work in you who believe.  14  For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God which are in Judea in Christ Jesus…

 

Joh_13:20 CAB  Most assuredly I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."

 

Gal_4:13-14 CAB  You know that because of weakness in the flesh I preached the gospel to you the former time.  14  And my trial which was in my flesh you did not despise nor disdain, but as an angel of God you received me, even as Christ Jesus.

 

2Co_8:23 – Jesus is the brightness of the glory of God (as said earlier in 2Co_4:4-6 and clearly confirmed in Heb_1:3), and now also His sent out Apostles are the glory of the anointed one. What does that say about how you should receive them?

 

Wis_4:1-2 Brenton  Better it is to have no children, and to have virtue: for the memorial thereof is immortal: because it is known with God, and with men.  2  When it is present, men take example [imitate] at it [τε μιμοῦνται αὐτὴν]; and when it is gone, they desire it: it weareth a crown, and triumpheth for ever, having gotten the victory, striving for undefiled rewards.

 

Don’t kid yourself. You do not love Jesus in prayer more than you love Jesus on earth in real disciples and disciplers.

 

Notice that this love and imitation of faithful people who proclaim truth is real Discipleship. The real reason it does not work today is because we hate Jesus in our apostasy and have had too many bad experiences in our culture with “over honoring” lost wicked pastors of filthy flesh. But this eager imitation of truth, where people receive preachers of truth just as they would Jesus, works just as much today as it did then in the Bible. The reason this does not seem to work out today is because we have lost people honoring lost pastors, not because the true and faithful example of the Bible has changed!

    Our problem is that we hate Jesus and love flesh balls that cannot sustain such a reception because they are clearly not like Jesus or in any way are they really His representatives! No wonder we are let down and hurt when we try to “over-trust” pastors in our churches today, because we are opening ourselves up and making ourselves vulnerable to ravenous wolves expecting them to operate on us in our own best interest!

    We are so afraid of falling into a “controlling and abusive cult,” but we hypocritically have no concern over falling into damnable heresies and honoring apostate pastors! Real representatives of Jesus can be safely received just as Jesus (as the Scriptures clearly teach). Repent and do what is Biblical and you will no longer have a conflict between you and the example left for us in the Bible.

    But we only feel like this is extremely impractical and impossible because we keep propping up false, apostate, counterfeits and will not just be honest and call them out as wolves like we should. – If you cannot honor and receive a preacher as you would Jesus Himself then you should not receive him at all as a preacher of truth, because such unbiblical games are worthless exercises that are anything But Biblical discipleship.

    Find real proclaimers of truth. Stop pacifying yourself with less than Biblical preachers. Embrace the proclamation of truth with BIBLICAL faithfulness, and reject falsehood with reasonable zeal! This is the only way to “safely” receive discipleship today, because it is the only solution offered in the Scriptures. There is no other gospel that will save you beyond the Gospel that demands discipleship (compare Mar_16:15-16; Mat_28:19-20; Gal_1:6-9).

 

1Th_5:12-13 CAB  And we request of you, brothers, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and instruct you,  13  and to regard them beyond all measure [ὑπερεκπερισσοῦ] in love, because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves.

 

My God

9/10/17; 9/29/17

 

MT Says, “My God”

Deu_4:5 WEB  Behold, I have taught you statutes and ordinances, even as Yahweh my God commanded me, that you should do so in the midst of the land where you go in to possess it.

Deu_4:5 Behold, I have shown you the statutes and judgments as the Lord has commanded me, that you should do so in the land into which you go, to inherit it.

Deu_4:5  ἴδετε δέδειχα ὑμῖν δικαιώματα καὶ κρίσεις, καθὰ ἐνετείλατό μοι κύριος, ποιῆσαι οὕτως ἐν τῇ γῇ, εἰς ἣν ὑμεῖς εἰσπορεύεσθε ἐκεῖ κληρονομεῖν αὐτήν·

 

 

Act_27:23 CAB  For there stood by me this night an angel of the God to whom I belong, whom also I serve,

Act_27:23  παρέστη γάρ μοι τῇ νυκτὶ ταύτῃ ἄγγελος τοῦ Θεοῦ, οὗ εἰμι, ᾧ καὶ λατρεύω,

Act_27:23  παρεστη γαρ μοι BAταυτη τη νυκτι TSταυτη TSBαγγελος του θεου ου ειμι Aεγω ω και λατρευω Aαγγελος

Act_27:24 saying, 'Do not be afraid, Paul; for it is necessary for you to stand before Caesar; and behold, God has granted you all those sailing with you.'

Act_27:24  λέγων· μὴ φοβοῦ, Παῦλε· Καίσαρί σε δεῖ παραστῆναι· καὶ ἰδοὺ κεχάρισταί σοι ὁ Θεὸς πάντας τοὺς πλέοντας μετὰ σοῦ.

Act_27:24  λεγων μη φοβου παυλε καισαρι σε δει παραστηναι και ιδου κεχαρισται σοι ο θεος παντας τους πλεοντας μετα σου

Act_27:25  "Therefore keep up your courage, men; for I believe God that it will be in the very manner it has been spoken to me.

Act_27:25  διὸ εὐθυμεῖτε, ἄνδρες· πιστεύω γὰρ τῷ Θεῷ ὅτι οὕτως ἔσται καθ᾿ ὃν τρόπον λελάληταί μοι.

>>Sync other refs herein

 

>> see: Ruth herein

 

My Gospel; Our Gospel

 

Paul's Gospel

~2002-2008?; 3/4/17 (recompiled)

 

Act 20:24 ...the3588 gospel2098 of the3588 grace5485 of God.

 

Rom 2:16  In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

 

Rom 16:25  Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

 

1Co 9:17  For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

 

Eph 6:19  And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

20  For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

 

Phi 1:7  Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.

 

1Ti 1:11-16  According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.  12.  And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;  13.  Who was... but I obtained mercy... 14.  And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant... 16.  Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy...

 

Exception (not):

2Ti 2:8  Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

9  Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

 

Gal 1:15-17, 2:2-5

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My GospelRom_2:16; Rom_16:25; 1Ti_1:11; 2Ti_1:8; 2Ti_2:8;

Our Gospel1Th_1:5-6; 2Th_2:13-14

 

[Note: this is the same as the everlasting Gospel as in Rev_14:6, but there is a dependency upon Paul that is established with such personable words]

 

By the terms “My Gospel” and “Our Gospel” it is clear that the Gospel that is needed for salvation is entrusted to certain people in a very personal way, and we need such people in order to make it to heaven; inasmuch as we actually do need the Gospel to make it to heaven, we need “Paul’s Gospel” to make it to heaven. We see that we need Paul to preach to us to make it to heaven. Yes, we somehow need “Paul” involved in our lives to make it to heaven because we need that which was given to him, just as it says,

 

Act_11:13-14 CAB  he had seen the angel in his house, standing and saying to him, 'Send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter,  14  'who will speak words to you by which you and all your household shall be saved.'

 

The Gospel I Preach

Some references and summaries of preaching the Gospel of imitation

 

Gal_1:11

Gal_2:2-7/ 1Th_2:4

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Eph_1:13

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Php_1:5-7

Col_1:23

1Th_2:8

 

1Co_4:14-16 – children... (a) father through Gospel

1Co_11:1 - traditions

Gal_4:10-14 – Be as I am (1Co_10:33)

Php_3:16-18 – You are an enemy of the cross of Jesus if you are not obedient to imitation

Heb_6:10-12 – imitate favor

 

Gal_2:17-18 – “if, while we seek to be justified...”

 

Imitate me and Peace Will be with You

Php_4:9 CAB  The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, practice these things; and the God of peace shall be with you.

 

2Th_2:15 CAB  So then, brothers, stand fast and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our letter.

 

1Th_4:1-8; 2Th_3:6-10 – you ought to imitate this way

 

Originally in Sal. Ho. Sp. Until 9/25/11; temporarily in Syn Until 1/29/12

 

Humility Produces Real Discipleship that Actually Imitates!

Humility Makes You Vulnerable toward God enough to Need to Imitate those He has left In Your Life

 

Think of Others as Higher Than Yourself

Php_2:2-3 CAB  fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being united in spirit, intending the same purpose,  3  doing nothing according to selfish ambition or conceit, but with humility, regarding one another as being better than yourselves.

>> Sync: ROW (Php_2:3-12) | SPI (Php_2:5-11) | LO (Php_2:1-4) | LLO | Dis (Php_2:2-3) | PFO (Php_2:12) | BBMem

 

Important: compare Rom_12: and see all of Phi_2:2-8

 

The Ugly Mystery of Differentiation!

1Co_4:7-8 CAB  For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? And if you did indeed receive what you have, why do you boast as though you did not receive it?  8  You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us; and I wish that indeed you did reign, in order that we also might reign with you!

 

The Corinthians had “reigned” without Paul, and come to a point where they did not seem to need him in order to make it to heaven. Paul very wisely (and often sarcastically) rebukes them.

 

But what can we learn from this “Ugly Differentiation” where people make themselves higher than others?

 

Don’t kid yourself. You are never “EQUAL” with other disciples! – You are either LOWER (Php_2:2-3; Mat_18:1-4) or HIGHER than others (1Co_4:7-8) in your own conceit (Pro_26:12; Gal_6:3). Either you are in love with people, and in need of imitating them (according to the degree of their truth), or you are out of discipleship as much as you do not need them (see 3Jo_1:9).

 

Also see: Pro_16:18-19 (and Ecc_7:16; Mic_6:8; Luk_18:11; 2Co_12:7; Jam_4:6; 1Pe_5:5).

 

Mediators vs. Priests

5/20/17

>> GET RAS!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

>> Lev: you will offer your sacrifices in a way to be accepted

 

>>>> Deu 5:4-5

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Deu_5:27 WEB  Go near, and hear all that Yahweh our God shall say: and tell us all that Yahweh our God shall tell you; and we will hear it, and do it.

Deu_5:27 LB  But draw near, and hear all that the Lord our God shall say, and you shall speak to us all things whatsoever the Lord our God shall speak to you, and we will hear, and do.’

Deu_5:27  πρόσελθε σὺ καὶ ἄκουσον ὅσα ἐὰν εἴπῃ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ἡμῶν, καὶ σὺ λαλήσεις πρὸς ἡμᾶς πάντα, ὅσα ἂν λαλήσῃ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ἡμῶν πρὸς σέ, καὶ ἀκουσόμεθα καὶ ποιήσομεν.

>> Sync: LO | RAS

 

self-headed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocephaly

 

 

Saul Proves that Your Personal Relationship Sends you to Hell

5/20/17

 

1Sa_13:9 WEB  Saul said, Bring here the burnt offering to me, and the peace offerings. He offered the burnt offering.

1Sa_13:9 CAB  And Saul said, “Bring some victims here, that I may offer burnt offerings and peace offerings.” And he offered the burnt offering.

1Sa_13:9  καὶ εἶπεν Σαουλ Προσαγάγετε, ὅπως ποιήσω ὁλοκαύτωσιν καὶ εἰρηνικάς· καὶ ἀνήνεγκεν τὴν ὁλοκαύτωσιν.

1Sa_13:10 WEB  It came to pass that as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, behold, Samuel came; and Saul went out to meet him, that he might greet him.

1Sa_13:10 And it came to pass when he had finished offering the burnt offering, that Samuel arrived, and Saul went out to meet him, and to bless him.

1Sa_13:10  καὶ ἐγένετο ὡς συνετέλεσεν ἀναφέρων τὴν ὁλοκαύτωσιν, καὶ Σαμουηλ παραγίνεται· καὶ ἐξῆλθεν Σαουλ εἰς ἀπάντησιν αὐτῷ εὐλογῆσαι αὐτόν.

1Sa_13:11 WEB  Samuel said, What have you done? Saul said, Because I saw that the people were scattered from me, and that you didn't come within the days appointed, and that the Philistines assembled themselves together at Michmash;

1Sa_13:11 And Samuel said, “What have you done?” And Saul said, “Because I saw how the people were scattered from me, and that you were not present as you had purposed according to the set time of the days, and the Philistines were gathered at Michmash.

1Sa_13:11  καὶ εἶπεν Σαμουηλ Τί πεποίηκας; καὶ εἶπεν Σαουλ Ὅτι εἶδον ὡς διεσπάρη ὁ λαὸς ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ καὶ σὺ οὐ παρεγένου, ὡς διετάξω, ἐν τῷ μαρτυρίῳ τῶν ἡμερῶν καὶ οἱ ἀλλόφυλοι συνήχθησαν εἰς Μαχεμας,

1Sa_13:12 WEB  therefore said I, Now will the Philistines come down on me to Gilgal, and I haven't entreated the favor of Yahweh: I forced myself therefore, and offered the burnt offering.

1Sa_13:12 Then I said, ‘Now will the Philistines come down to me to Gilgal, and I have not sought the face of the Lord.’ So I forced myself and offered the burnt offering.”

1Sa_13:12  καὶ εἶπα Νῦν καταβήσονται οἱ ἀλλόφυλοι πρός με εἰς Γαλγαλα καὶ τοῦ προσώπου τοῦ κυρίου οὐκ ἐδεήθην· καὶ ἐνεκρατευσάμην καὶ ἀνήνεγκα τὴν ὁλοκαύτωσιν.

1Sa_13:13 WEB  Samuel said to Saul, You have done foolishly; you have not kept the commandment of Yahweh your God, which he commanded you: for now would Yahweh have established your kingdom on Israel forever.

1Sa_13:13 And Samuel said to Saul, “You have done foolishly, for you have not kept my command, which the Lord commanded you, as now the Lord would have confirmed your kingdom over Israel forever.

1Sa_13:13  καὶ εἶπεν Σαμουηλ πρὸς Σαουλ Μεματαίωταί σοι, ὅτι οὐκ ἐφύλαξας τὴν ἐντολήν μου, ἣν ἐνετείλατό σοι κύριος. ὡς νῦν ἡτοίμασεν κύριος τὴν βασιλείαν σου ἕως αἰῶνος ἐπὶ Ισραηλ·

1Sa_13:14 WEB  But now your kingdom shall not continue: Yahweh has sought him a man after his own heart, and Yahweh has appointed him to be prince over his people, because you have not kept that which Yahweh commanded you.

1Sa_13:14 But now your kingdom shall not stand, and the Lord shall seek for Himself a man after His own heart; and the Lord shall appoint him to be a ruler over His people, because you have not kept all that the Lord has commanded you.”

1Sa_13:14  καὶ νῦν ἡ βασιλεία σου οὐ στήσεται, καὶ ζητήσει κύριος ἑαυτῷ ἄνθρωπον κατὰ τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐντελεῖται κύριος αὐτῷ εἰς ἄρχοντα ἐπὶ τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ, ὅτι οὐκ ἐφύλαξας ὅσα ἐνετείλατό σοι κύριος.

 

Compare Saul’s Initial Rebellions, and sins of disobedience:

1Sa_13:1, etc.; 1Sa_15:1, etc.

 

 

Where did Saul End Up?

 

1Sa_28:1, etc.

 

 

People Can Save People

Inspired and Divinely Helped/Possessed People Can Save Other People

8/21/16; 10/9/16; 5/25/16; 10/20/16
Tags: divine people can save sinners

>> where is the other collection of refs for this???

 

 

Act_27:23 CAB  For there stood by me this night an angel of the God to whom I belong, whom also I serve,

Act_27:23  παρέστη γάρ μοι τῇ νυκτὶ ταύτῃ ἄγγελος τοῦ Θεοῦ, οὗ εἰμι, ᾧ καὶ λατρεύω,

Act_27:23  παρεστη γαρ μοι BAταυτη τη νυκτι TSταυτη TSBαγγελος του θεου ου ειμι Aεγω ω και λατρευω Aαγγελος

Act_27:24 saying, 'Do not be afraid, Paul; for it is necessary for you to stand before Caesar; and behold, God has granted you all those sailing with you.'

Act_27:24  λέγων· μὴ φοβοῦ, Παῦλε· Καίσαρί σε δεῖ παραστῆναι· καὶ ἰδοὺ κεχάρισταί σοι ὁ Θεὸς πάντας τοὺς πλέοντας μετὰ σοῦ.

Act_27:24  λεγων μη φοβου παυλε καισαρι σε δει παραστηναι και ιδου κεχαρισται σοι ο θεος παντας τους πλεοντας μετα σου

Act_27:25  "Therefore keep up your courage, men; for I believe God that it will be in the very manner it has been spoken to me.

Act_27:25  διὸ εὐθυμεῖτε, ἄνδρες· πιστεύω γὰρ τῷ Θεῷ ὅτι οὕτως ἔσται καθ᾿ ὃν τρόπον λελάληταί μοι.

>>Sync other refs herein

 

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Act_27:33 CAB  And until the time was about to be day, Paul was urging them all to receive their share of food, saying, "Today is the fourteenth day you continue waiting without eating, having taken nothing.

Act_27:33  Αχρι δὲ οὗ ἤμελλεν ἡμέρα γίνεσθαι, παρεκάλει ὁ Παῦλος ἅπαντας μεταλαβεῖν τροφῆς λέγων· τεσσαρεσκαιδεκάτην σήμερον ἡμέραν προσδοκῶντες ἄσιτοι διατελεῖτε, μηδὲν προσλαβόμενοι.

Act_27:33  αχρι δε ου Bημελλεν TSεμελλεν ημερα Aημελλεν γινεσθαι παρεκαλει ο παυλος απαντας μεταλαβειν τροφης λεγων τεσσαρεσκαιδεκατην σημερον ημεραν προσδοκωντες ασιτοι διατελειτε Aμηθεν TSBμηδεν προσλαβομενοι

Act_27:34 Therefore I urge you to take food, for this is for your deliverance; for not a hair from your head shall fall."

Act_27:34  διὸ παρακαλῶ ὑμᾶς μεταλαβεῖν τροφῆς· τοῦτο γὰρ πρὸς τῆς ὑμετέρας σωτηρίας ὑπάρχει· οὐδενὸς γὰρ ὑμῶν θρὶξ ἐκ τῆς κεφαλῆς πεσεῖται.

Act_27:34  διο παρακαλω υμας Aμεταλαβειν TSBπροσλαβειν τροφης τουτο γαρ προς της υμετερας σωτηριας υπαρχει ουδενος γαρ υμων θριξ Aαπο TSBεκ της κεφαλης Aαπολειται TSBπεσειται

Act 27:35 And having said these things and having taken bread, he gave thanks to God in the presence of all, and having broken it, he began to eat.

Act 27:35  εἰπὼν δὲ ταῦτα καὶ λαβὼν ἄρτον εὐχαρίστησε τῷ Θεῷ ἐνώπιον πάντων, καὶ κλάσας ἤρξατο ἐσθίειν.

Act 27:35  Aειπας TSBειπων δε ταυτα και λαβων αρτον ευχαριστησεν τω θεω ενωπιον παντων και κλασας ηρξατο εσθιειν

Act 27:36 And they all became cheerful and also took food themselves.

Act 27:36  εὔθυμοι δὲ γενόμενοι πάντες καὶ αὐτοὶ προσελάβοντο τροφῆς·

Act 27:36  ευθυμοι δε γενομενοι παντες και αυτοι προσελαβοντο τροφης

Act 27:37 And in all we were two hundred and seventy-six persons on the ship.

Act 27:37  ἦμεν δὲ ἐν τῷ πλοίῳ αἱ πᾶσαι ψυχαὶ διακόσιαι ἑβδομήκοντα ἕξ.

Act 27:37  Aημεθα TSBημεν δε TSBεν TSBτω TSBπλοιω αι πασαι ψυχαι Aεν Aτω Aπλοιω διακοσιαι BAεβδομηκοντα BAεξ TSεβδομηκονταεξ

 

Act 27:43 But the centurion, wanting to rescue Paul, hindered them in their intention, and commanded that those who were able to swim to jump down first to go toward the land,

Act 27:43  ὁ δὲ ἑκατοντάρχης βουλόμενος διασῶσαι τὸν Παῦλον ἐκώλυσεν αὐτοὺς τοῦ βουλήματος, ἐκέλευσέ τε τοὺς δυναμένους κολυμβᾶν ἀπορίψαντας πρώτους ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν ἐξιέναι,

Act 27:43  ο δε Aεκατονταρχης TSBεκατονταρχος βουλομενος διασωσαι τον παυλον εκωλυσεν αυτους του βουληματος εκελευσεν τε τους δυναμενους κολυμβαν Aαποριψαντας TSBαπορριψαντας πρωτους επι την γην εξιεναι

Act 27:44  and the rest, some on boards and others on parts from the ship. And in this way it came about that all were brought to safety.

Act 27:44  καὶ τοὺς λοιποὺς οὓς μὲν ἐπὶ σανίσιν, οὓς δὲ ἐπί τινων τῶν ἀπὸ τοῦ πλοίου. καὶ οὕτως ἐγένετο πάντας διασωθῆναι ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν.

Act 27:44  και τους λοιπους ους μεν επι σανισιν ους δε επι τινων των απο του πλοιου και ουτως εγενετο παντας διασωθηναι επι την γην

Act 28:1 And when they were rescued, then they learned that the island was called Malta.

Act 28:1  Καὶ διασωθέντες τότε ἐπέγνωσαν ὅτι Μελίτη ἡ νῆσος καλεῖται.

Act 28:1  και διασωθεντες τοτε Aεπεγνωμεν TSBεπεγνωσαν οτι μελιτη η νησος καλειται

 

 

Heb: Aaronic Priest Offers 1st For His Own Sins, and then the sins of the People

4/6/17

>> You got to save yourself before you can save the people

>> Watcher doctrine closely because in so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers

>> Sync: LOG | Dis

 

Lev_9:7-8 –

[Lev_9:13]

 

Lev_16:6

Lev_16:15

Lev_16:17

 

Lev_16:24

[Lev_16:32]

>> TSK

 

 

 

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4/4/17

Lev_14:11 WEB  The priest who cleanses him shall set the man who is to be cleansed, and those things, before Yahweh, at the door of the Tent of Meeting.

Lev_14:11 LB  And the priest that cleanses shall present the man under purification, and these offerings before the Lord, at the door of the tabernacle of witness.

Lev_14:11  καὶ στήσει ὁ ἱερεὺς ὁ καθαρίζων τὸν ἄνθρωπον τὸν καθαριζόμενον καὶ ταῦτα ἔναντι κυρίου ἐπὶ τὴν θύραν τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου.

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5/25/16

joseph: you have saved us

1co7 -- Wife/husband saving Wife/husband

You will save yourself & your hearers

Moses is called a savior

>> Sync: DRRR

 

>>Scrip:

How do you know oh husband / wife

 

Act_7:23-25 CAB  Now when he had turned forty years old, it came into his heart [ἀνέβη ἐπὶ τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ] to look upon [ἐπισκέψασθαι] his brothers, the sons of Israel.  24  And seeing someone being wronged [ἀδικούμενον], he retaliated, and avenged [ἐποίησεν ἐκδίκησιν] him who was being oppressed [καταπονουμένῳ], and struck [πατάξας] the Egyptian.  25  For he supposed that his brothers understood [ἐνόμιζε δὲ συνιέναι τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ] that God was giving to them deliverance [σωτηρίαν – salvation] by [διὰ] his hand, but they did not understand [συνῆκαν].

>> Dis | SpWa

 

Jud_1:22-23 LB  And [(a)men/indeed/truly (μὲν)] have mercy [ἐλεεῖτε] on some [οὓς], ·making a distinction [διακρινόμενοι];  23  but others [οὓς] save [σώζετε] with fear, snatching [ἁρπάζοντες] them out of the fire, hating even the ·[inner] garment [χιτῶνα – i.e. shirt, etc.] having been stained [ἐσπιλωμένον] by [ἀπὸ – from] the flesh.

Jud_1:22-23 Greek  καὶ οὓς μὲν ἐλεεῖτε διακρινόμενοι,  23  οὓς δὲ ἐν φόβῳ σώζετε, ἐκ πυρὸς ἁρπάζοντες, μισοῦντες καὶ τὸν ἀπὸ τῆς σαρκὸς ἐσπιλωμένον χιτῶνα.

>> Sync: SpWa | Dis | other?

 

 

Neh_9:26 WEB  Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against you, and cast your law behind their back, and killed your prophets that testified against them to turn them again to you, and they committed awful blasphemies.

Neh_9:26 CAB  But they turned, and revolted from You, and cast Your law behind their backs; and they killed Your prophets, who testified against them to turn them back to You, and they worked great provocations.

Neh_9:26  καὶ ἤλλαξαν καὶ ἀπέστησαν ἀπὸ σοῦ καὶ ἔρριψαν τὸν νόμον σου ὀπίσω σώματος αὐτῶν καὶ τοὺς προφήτας σου ἀπέκτειναν, οἳ διεμαρτύραντο ἐν αὐτοῖς ἐπιστρέψαι αὐτοὺς πρὸς σέ, καὶ ἐποίησαν παροργισμοὺς μεγάλους.

Neh_9:27 Therefore you delivered them into the hand of their adversaries, who distressed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried to you, you heard from heaven; and according to your manifold mercies you gave them saviors who saved them out of the hand of their adversaries.

Neh_9:27 Then You gave them into the hand of them that afflicted them, and they did afflict them. And they cried to You in the time of their affliction, and You heard them from heaven, and in Your great mercy You gave them deliverers, and saved them from the hand of them that afflicted them.

Neh_9:27  καὶ ἔδωκας αὐτοὺς ἐν χειρὶ θλιβόντων αὐτούς, καὶ ἔθλιψαν αὐτούς· καὶ ἀνεβόησαν πρὸς σὲ ἐν καιρῷ θλίψεως αὐτῶν, καὶ σὺ ἐξ οὐρανοῦ σου ἤκουσας καὶ ἐν οἰκτιρμοῖς σου τοῖς μεγάλοις ἔδωκας αὐτοῖς σωτῆρας καὶ ἔσωσας αὐτοὺς ἐκ χειρὸς θλιβόντων αὐτούς.

Neh_9:28 But after they had rest, they did evil again before you; therefore left you them in the hand of their enemies, so that they had the dominion over them: yet when they returned, and cried to you, you heard from heaven; and many times you delivered them according to your mercies,

Neh_9:28 But when they rested, they did evil again before You, so You left them in the hands of their enemies, and they ruled over them; and they cried again to You, and You heard from heaven, and delivered them in Your great mercy.

Neh_9:28  καὶ ὡς ἀνεπαύσαντο, ἐπέστρεψαν ποιῆσαι τὸ πονηρὸν ἐνώπιόν σου· καὶ ἐγκατέλιπες αὐτοὺς εἰς χεῖρας ἐχθρῶν αὐτῶν, καὶ κατῆρξαν ἐν αὐτοῖς. καὶ πάλιν ἀνεβόησαν πρὸς σέ, καὶ σὺ ἐξ οὐρανοῦ εἰσήκουσας καὶ ἐρρύσω αὐτοὺς ἐν οἰκτιρμοῖς σου πολλοῖς.

Neh_9:29 and testified against them, that you might bring them again to your law. Yet they dealt proudly, and didn't listen to your commandments, but sinned against your ordinances,  (which if a man do, he shall live in them), and withdrew the shoulder, and hardened their neck, and would not hear.

Neh_9:29 And You testified against them, to bring them back to Your law; but they hearkened not, and sinned against Your commandments and Your judgments, which if a man does, he shall live in them; and they turned their back, and hardened their neck, and heard not.

Neh_9:29  καὶ ἐπεμαρτύρω αὐτοῖς ἐπιστρέψαι αὐτοὺς εἰς τὸν νόμον σου, καὶ οὐκ ἤκουσαν, ἀλλὰ ἐν ταῖς ἐντολαῖς σου καὶ ἐν τοῖς κρίμασί σου ἡμάρτοσαν, ἃ ποιήσας αὐτὰ ἄνθρωπος ζήσεται ἐν αὐτοῖς· καὶ ἔδωκαν νῶτον ἀπειθοῦντα καὶ τράχηλον αὐτῶν ἐσκλήρυναν καὶ οὐκ ἤκουσαν.

Neh_9:30 Yet many years you put up with them, and testified against them by your Spirit through your prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands.

Neh_9:30 Yet You had patience with them for many years, and testified to them by Your Spirit by the hand of Your prophets: but they hearkened not; so You gave them into the hand of the nations of the land.

Neh_9:30  καὶ εἵλκυσας ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς ἔτη πολλὰ καὶ ἐπεμαρτύρω αὐτοῖς ἐν πνεύματί σου ἐν χειρὶ προφητῶν σου· καὶ οὐκ ἠνωτίσαντο, καὶ ἔδωκας αὐτοὺς ἐν χειρὶ λαῶν τῆς γῆς.

>> Sync: SinL | Dis

 

 

 

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8/5/16

 

 

2Co_1:17 LB Therefore, when I decided this, did I do it lightly? Or the things I decide, do I decide according to the flesh, that there may be with me “Yes, Yes,” and “No, No?”

2Co_1:17  τουτο ουν Aβουλομενος Aμητι TSBβουλευομενος TSBμη TSBτι αρα τη ελαφρια εχρησαμην η α βουλευομαι κατα σαρκα βουλευομαι ινα η παρ εμοι το ναι ναι και το ου ου

2Co_1:18 As surely as God is faithful, our word unto you was not “Yes and no.”

2Co_1:18  πιστος δε ο θεος οτι ο λογος ημων ο προς υμας ουκ Aεστιν TSBεγενετο ναι και ου

2Co_1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us—by me, Silvanus, and Timothy—was not “Yes and no,” but in Him was “Yes.”

2Co_1:19  ο TSBγαρ του θεου Aγαρ υιος ιησους χριστος ο εν υμιν δι ημων κηρυχθεις δι εμου και σιλουανου και τιμοθεου ουκ εγενετο ναι και ου αλλα ναι εν αυτω γεγονεν

2Co_1:20 For all the promises of God in Him are “Yes,” and in Him “Amen,” to the glory of God through us.

2Co_1:20  οσαι γαρ επαγγελιαι θεου εν αυτω το ναι Aδιο και Aδι TSBεν Aαυτου TSBαυτω το αμην τω θεω προς δοξαν δι ημων

2Co_1:21 Now He who establishes us together with you in Christ and who has anointed us is God,

2Co_1:21  ο δε βεβαιων ημας συν υμιν εις χριστον και χρισας ημας θεος

2Co_1:22 who also has sealed us, and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.

2Co_1:22  ο και σφραγισαμενος ημας και δους τον αρραβωνα του πνευματος εν ταις καρδιαις ημων

 

 

2Co_2:14 LB Now thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and making known through us the fragrance of His knowledge in every place.

2Co_2:14  τω δε θεω χαρις τω παντοτε θριαμβευοντι ημας εν τω χριστω και την οσμην της γνωσεως αυτου φανερουντι δι ημων εν παντι τοπω

2Co_2:15 For we are the fragrance of Christ to God among those being saved, and among those perishing.

2Co_2:15  οτι χριστου ευωδια εσμεν τω θεω εν τοις σωζομενοις και εν τοις απολλυμενοις

2Co_2:16 To some we are the fragrance of death unto death, but to others the fragrance of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

2Co_2:16  οις μεν οσμη Aεκ θανατου εις θανατον οις δε οσμη Aεκ ζωης εις ζωην και προς ταυτα τις ικανος

 

 

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7/18/16

 

Samuel was helping them get right with the real God…

 

 

1Sa_7:8 KJV+  And the childrenH1121 of IsraelH3478 saidH559 toH413 Samuel,H8050 CeaseH2790 notH408 to cryH4480 H2199 untoH413 the LORDH3068 our GodH430 forH4480 us, that he will saveH3467 us out of the handH4480 H3027 of the Philistines.H6430

1Sa_7:8 LB And the children of Israel said to Samuel, “Do not cease to cry to the Lord your God for us, and He shall save us out of the hand of the Philistines.”

1Sa_7:8  καὶ εἶπαν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ πρὸς Σαμουηλ Μὴ παρασιωπήσῃς ἀφ᾿ ἡμῶν τοῦ μὴ βοᾶν πρὸς κύριον θεόν σου, καὶ σώσει ἡμᾶς ἐκ χειρὸς ἀλλοφύλων.

 

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5/27/16

 

>>Scrip:

Whoever joins is one spirit

This is not just theoretical and unexpressed.

 

>>Scrip:

The spirit and bride say come

That with one mouth you might…

 

This is what truth obeyers are doing upon the earth now with the same Words as God says in heaven.

 

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2Co_3:18 LB But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

2Co_3:18  ημεις δε παντες ανακεκαλυμμενω προσωπω την δοξαν κυριου κατοπτριζομενοι την αυτην εικονα μεταμορφουμεθα απο δοξης εις δοξαν καθαπερ απο κυριου πνευματος

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5/11/16

Scrip

we will be like Him...see Him as he is...

now you say, 'you are not god' and you make your hypocritical excuses to not believe in God because you still despise the weakness of His encarnation...

but that lame excuse will not hold on Judgment Day once you have seen all the humbled poor whom you despised effectively joined to the God-head in marriage and all Divinity...

what will you do then when your pockets are empty and your soul is naked and you have nothing to hide your shame, and your satanice words eat your flesh like fire. Behold, this is the mindless and foolish pervert who said God's body was 'not God'!

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5/1/16

 

 

Gen_32:9 KJV+  And JacobH3290 said,H559 O GodH430 of my fatherH1 Abraham,H85 and GodH430 of my fatherH1 Isaac,H3327 the LORDH3068 which saidstH559 untoH413 me, ReturnH7725 unto thy country,H776 and to thy kindred,H4138 and I will deal wellH3190 withH5973 thee:

Gen_32:9 And Jacob said, “God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, O Lord, You are He that said to me, ‘Depart quickly to the land of your birth, and I will do you good.’

Gen_32:9  (32:10) εἶπεν δὲ Ιακωβ Ὁ θεὸς τοῦ πατρός μου Αβρααμ καὶ ὁ θεὸς τοῦ πατρός μου Ισαακ, κύριε ὁ εἴπας μοι Ἀπότρεχε εἰς τὴν γῆν τῆς γενέσεώς σου καὶ εὖ σε ποιήσω,

 

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4/25/16

 

God could have worked out salvation all at once in an instance without using anyone.

He had to do this in a few cases where there was no one to help, so He worked it out with His own right arm.

But God insists on spanning out His salvation of the whole world and of Israel over thousands of years partly so He can select a few specific people to associate with His salvation…

From Noah, to Abraham, to Moses, to John the Baptist, to Jesus, to the first Apostles, to Paul, and on into today…

 

Only problem is that today we don’t believe God is willing to do monotheism anymore, but we think he only moves through pagan personal independent guidance spirits…

 

 

 

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The God of Abraham -- and just why can’t we keep doing that now???

j.c. has become profaned among the nations -- we need to distinguish again

and we need humans on earth to bear the name of God in heaven…

 

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4/7/16

 

Gen_23:5 WEB The children of Heth answered Abraham, saying to him,

Gen_23:5 CAB And the sons of Heth answered Abraham, saying, Not so, sir,

Gen_23:5  ἀπεκρίθησαν δὲ οἱ υἱοὶ Χετ πρὸς Αβρααμ λέγοντες

Gen_23:6 "Hear us, my lord. You are a prince of God among us. Bury your dead in the best of our tombs. None of us will withhold from you his tomb. Bury your dead."

Gen_23:6 but hear us; you are in the midst of us a prince of God; bury your dead in our choice tombs, for none of us will by any means withhold his tomb from you, so that you should not bury your dead there.

Gen_23:6  Μή, κύριε· ἄκουσον δὲ ἡμῶν. βασιλεὺς παρὰ θεοῦ εἶ σὺ ἐν ἡμῖν· ἐν τοῖς ἐκλεκτοῖς μνημείοις ἡμῶν θάψον τὸν νεκρόν σου· οὐδεὶς γὰρ ἡμῶν τὸ μνημεῖον αὐτοῦ κωλύσει ἀπὸ σοῦ τοῦ θάψαι τὸν νεκρόν σου ἐκεῖ.

Gen_23:7 Abraham rose up, and bowed himself to the people of the land, even to the children of Heth.

Gen_23:7 And Abraham rose up and bowed himself to the people of the land, to the sons of Heth.

Gen_23:7  ἀναστὰς δὲ Αβρααμ προσεκύνησεν τῷ λαῷ τῆς γῆς, τοῖς υἱοῖς Χετ ,

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I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine

He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are one

 

 

Luk_12:32 CAB “Do not fear, little flock, because your Father is well pleased to give to you the kingdom.

Luk_12:32  μη φοβου το μικρον ποιμνιον οτι ευδοκησεν ο πατηρ υμων δουναι υμιν την βασιλειαν

 

 

John 5

2/2/16

 

Jesus acts dependently, just like we must work:

 

Joh_5:19-23, etc.

Joh_5:30

 

Joh_5:26-27 – authority

 

CAB Gr

Joh_5:33 You have sent to John, and he has testified to the truth.

Joh_5:33  ῾Υμεῖς ἀπεστάλκατε πρὸς ᾿Ιωάννην, καὶ μεμαρτύρηκε τῇ ἀληθείᾳ·

Joh_5:34 But I do not receive the testimony from man [also: Joh_5:41], but these things I say so that you may be saved.

Joh_5:34  ἐγὼ δὲ οὐ παρὰ ἀνθρώπου τὴν μαρτυρίαν λαμβάνω ἀλλὰ ταῦτα λέγω ἵνα ὑμεῖς σωθῆτε.

Joh_5:35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light.

Joh_5:35  ἐκεῖνος ἦν ὁ λύχνος ὁ καιόμενος καὶ φαίνων. ὑμεῖς δὲ ἡθελήσατε ἀγαλλιαθῆναι πρὸς ὥραν ἐν τῷ φωτὶ αὐτοῦ.

Joh_5:36 But I have a testimony greater than John's; for the works which the Father gave to Me, that I should complete them, these very works which I do, testify of Me, that the Father has sent Me.

Joh_5:36  ἐγὼ δὲ ἔχω τὴν μαρτυρίαν μείζω τοῦ ᾿Ιωάννου· τὰ γὰρ ἔργα ἃ ἐδωκέ μοι ὁ πατὴρ ἵνα τελειώσω αὐτά, αὐτὰ τὰ ἔργα ἃ ἐγὼ ποιῶ, μαρτυρεῖ περὶ ἐμοῦ ὅτι ὁ πατήρ με ἀπέσταλκε·

 

Joh_5:41 I do not receive glory from men.

Joh_5:41  Δόξαν παρὰ ἀνθρώπων οὐ λαμβάνω·

 

Joh_5:38-47

 

 

Independent Salvation

Independent Salvation | The Value of the Individual

 

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“The One who created the universe allowed Himself to be led around; meaning He submitted Himself to others and depended upon their guidance.”

http://illbehonest.com/being-led-luke-4

3/19/17

 

So what’s your excuse?

 

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Technology and mass-production has afforded virtually everyone in modern societies with their very own Bible, but it has not enabled anyone to obey it. If you will look very closely with wisdom, you will finally see that, although mass-distributed Bibles can improve societies, they also result in individuals who are even further away from the truth.

10/20/16

 

but none of the highest achievements of men has enabled obedience to

 

Technology has provided every individual with their own Bible in modern societies. But despite all this advance in technology, no one is obeying it.

10/20/16

 

I wish church people would realze that having your own personal printed Bible is a modern technological invention that has resulted in a prideful and rebellious independent religion, and has feulled the Protestant apostacy to complete insanity and lawless to this day.

not helped more people obey the Bible.

does not authorize you to sovereignly govern the morality of your own life. Technology does not replace dicipleship.

10/23/14

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Pro_18:1 LITV  He who separates himself seeks his own desire, he breaks out against all sound wisdom.

Pro_18:1  CAB A man who wishes to separate from friends seeks excuses; but at all times he will be liable to reproach.

Pro_18:1  προφάσεις ζητεῖ ἀνὴρ βουλόμενος χωρίζεσθαι ἀπὸ φίλων, ἐν παντὶ δὲ καιρῷ ἐπονείδιστος ἔσται.

 

Pro_18:2 WEB  A fool has no delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own opinion.

Pro_18:2 LB A senseless man feels no need of wisdom, for he is rather led by folly.

Pro_18:2  οὐ χρείαν ἔχει σοφίας ἐνδεὴς φρενῶν· μᾶλλον γὰρ ἄγεται ἀφροσύνῃ.

 

 

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2Ki_22:13 WEB Go inquire of Yahweh for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found; for great is the wrath of Yahweh that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not listened to the words of this book, to do according to all that which is written concerning us.

2Ki_22:13 CAB Go, inquire of the Lord for me, and for all the people, and for all Judah, and concerning the words of this book that has been found; for the wrath of the Lord that has been kindled against us is great, because our fathers hearkened not to the words of this book, to do according to all the things written concerning us.

2Ki_22:13  Δεῦτε ἐκζητήσατε τὸν κύριον περὶ ἐμοῦ καὶ περὶ παντὸς τοῦ λαοῦ καὶ περὶ παντὸς τοῦ Ιουδα περὶ τῶν λόγων τοῦ βιβλίου τοῦ εὑρεθέντος τούτου, ὅτι μεγάλη ἡ ὀργὴ κυρίου ἡ ἐκκεκαυμένη ἐν ἡμῖν ὑπὲρ οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν οἱ πατέρες ἡμῶν τῶν λόγων τοῦ βιβλίου τούτου τοῦ ποιεῖν κατὰ πάντα τὰ γεγραμμένα καθ᾿ ἡμῶν.

 

 

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Jdg_6:14 KJV+  And the LORDH3068 lookedH6437 uponH413 him, and said,H559 Go inH1980 thisH2088 thy might,H3581 and thou shalt saveH3467 (H853) IsraelH3478 from the handH4480 H3709 of the Midianites:H4080 have notH3808 I sentH7971 thee?

Jdg_6:14 And the Angel of the Lord turned to him and said, “Go in this your strength, and you shall save Israel out of the hand of Midian: behold, I have sent you.”

Jdg_6:14  καὶ ἐπέστρεψεν πρὸς αὐτὸν ὁ ἄγγελος κυρίου καὶ εἶπεν Πορεύου ἐν ἰσχύι σου ταύτῃ καὶ σώσεις τὸν Ισραηλ ἐκ χειρὸς Μαδιαμ· ἰδοὺ ἐξαπέστειλά σε.

 

 

Jdg_6:15 KJV+  And he saidH559 untoH413 him, OhH994 my Lord,H136 wherewithH4100 shall I saveH3467 (H853) Israel?H3478 behold,H2009 my familyH504 is poorH1800 in Manasseh,H4519 and IH595 am the leastH6810 in my father'sH1 house.H1004

Jdg_6:15 And Gideon said to him, “Be gracious with me, my Lord: how shall I save Israel? Behold, my thousand is weakened in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father’s house.”

Jdg_6:15  καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτὸν Γεδεων Ἐν ἐμοί, κύριέ μου, ἐν τίνι σώσω τὸν Ισραηλ; ἰδοὺ ἡ χιλιάς μου ἠσθένησεν ἐν Μανασση, καὶ ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ μικρότερος ἐν οἴκῳ πατρός μου.

 

 

>>TSK

>> Joseph

>> etc. etc.

 

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The Bible is very clear that if you do not have fellowship with us, then you do not have fellowship with the Father or the Son (1Jn_1:2-3, etc.).

7/10/16

 

Whenever you try to read the Bible or pray to God “apart from us” (1Co_4:8) the Bible very clearly teaches that you are actually fornicating with the devil (2Co_11:3-4).

You do not have a legitimate/lawful personal relationship with the Scriptures/God apart from us.

7/10/16

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Over and over again, God continually insists on using other people to save you.  And while the Monotheistic God demands that you submit to other people to be saved from sin, Satan insists that you can be saved all by yourself.  Satan teaches that you and JC (i.e. your personal demon worship) can work out a deal where you are saved and get to go to heaven without obeying the real Jesus when He commands for you to be discipled.

Independent Salvation is when you try to use the title of “God” or “Jesus” as a mask to cover up your horrible, in-born addiction to Satan worship.

Independent Salvation is trying to get around going through the Monotheistic God by avoiding His delegates which He sent to save you and disciple you.

 

If you are able to work out your own individual salvation without the constant approval of those whom God has sent, and you are able to have a personal religious relationship with JC all on your own without submitting under the guiding authority of those who are discipling and you, then it is pretty clear that you’re messing with demons when you’re sitting in the room by yourself like that.

 

Heb_13:17 CAB  Obey your leaders, and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls, as giving an account, in order that they may do this with joy and not groaning, for this would be unprofitable for you.

 

If you are responsible for your own personal spiritual development, and you feel like you alone are going to give an account for your own soul (i.e. independently), then it is clear you are a goat which is not within the nourishment of God’s Kingdom.

 

The real Jesus has overseers who are responsible for other people’s souls.  The satanic Jesus cuts out a personal and independent relationship with you in him so that you do not need anyone else in order to have a “relationship” with him and go to heaven.  It is obvious that this is why most of those who initially read this are going to go to hell if they do not quickly repent of paganism and demon worship.

 

Adam and Personal Guidance Spirits

When Adam was in the garden, Satan himself served as the first independent, Personal Guidance Spirit.  Since personal guidance spirits (fallen angels and demons) always appeal to the worship of your own ego, Satan tempted Adam and Eve very bluntly by saying “you will be as god”. – Take it to Heart: Whether it is more blunt or more subtle, Satan worship (the praise of independent, personal guidance spirits) always appeals to worshipping your own ego.  This is why church people constantly say things like, “I don’t feel convicted about this” and “I feel led to that”, and their “feelings” and “leadings” frequently contradict each other. – it is clear that their own ego is their god. 

    It is time to stop projecting the qualities of your own ego onto god, because in doing so you are just finding another way to worship your own soul and Satan by attributing divinity to the whims of whatever you and or Satan feel like doing.  There is an alternative to Satan worship and doing whatever you feel “led to” and it’s called “Monotheism”, and Monotheism is established on the earth through real discipleship to the real Jesus.

 

Saul’s Independent Worship of god – Which turns out to be Flagrant Witchcraft

When Saul of Tarsus tried to set up his own worship of god without Samuel (the one who had anointed him, and discipled him) Samuel very bluntly charged him with divination (witchcraft/sorcery).  The reality of this charge of guilt was so true, that at the end of Saul’s life he was consulting the Witch of Endor (1Sa_28:3-25; also Sir_46:19-20). – this is what really is going on when you have your own independent religious things going for you.  Samuel confronted this and brought it into light, and if anyone doubted Samuel’s judgment call, we see that that’s the very sin that Saul was committing at the end of this life.

 

The Jesus Refused Personal Guidance Spirits, Choosing Willing Subjection to John’s Baptism Instead

Jesus himself did not serve his own personal guidance spirits when Satan tempted him in the wilderness to establish Himself, but even before this took place, even Jesus subject of His own calling under the commissioning baptism of John the Baptist.

 

God Insisted on Using Peter to Save Cornelius, Even After God Gave Cornelius a Vision

Cornelius was a man so pleasing to God, that God even send an angel in a vision to praise and reward Cornelius for his righteousness.  But don’t miss the fact that even though God had made such an effort to send an angel to Cornelius, God still insisted that a human (Peter) be sent to Cornelius to tell him how to be saved.

 

Even when Paul had a Vision of Jesus Himself, God Still Ordained that Ananias Would Save Paul

Even when God had it in mind to save Saul of Tarsus (Paul the Apostle), and even when Jesus Himself showed up to Saul on the road to Damascus in a vision, God still insisted on using a person, named Ananias, to wash Saul’s sins away.  even when Jesus Himself shows up in a vision, He is not willing to personally, independently save Saul.  Jesus sent Ananias to baptize him!  Jesus is not a personal guidance spirit, like pagan Christianity delusion-ally imagines!!

    Paul not only submit it himself under Ananias’ baptism, but he was also discipled under the apostle Barnabas for many years before being commissioned as an apostle himself.

 

God Might Use Family to Save Other Family Members

The fact that God uses people to save other people, is the very basis for why Paul commands believing spouses to remain with their unbelieving spouses.

 

1Co_7:16 CAB  For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?

 

Discipleship is the Only Way Jesus Provided for Disciples to be Made

When Jesus commissioned his 12 apostles and the others with them to go out and make disciples, Jesus very clearly prescribed the way of salvation: be baptized and discipled under those whom He has sent. – if you go in any other way (i.e.  You are not zealously seeking to submit yourself under those whom God has sent) it is absolutely clear that you are not following the Jesus in the Bible who demanded that truth be spread this way.

 

People Like Abraham, Moses, and John The Baptist Are The Only Partial “Exception”

>> it does seem like every now and then throughout history God raises up an Abraham, John the Baptist, etc., but if you are not like that, you definitely need discipleship

From time to time throughout history, it looks like God raises people like Abraham out of nowhere, and He causes them to start worshipping Monotheism.  It seems like God does this when very dark times come, and there are no previous signs of life.  If there is absolutely no way for you to be discipled by someone into truth, then I suggest that you cry out to God from heaven to give you a vision of some kind to that you might have a shot and a pioneering Monotheism for the first time in your generation.

    If you do not get some kind of special revelation to pioneer or re-pioneer Monotheism in the land, then your only other option is to get discipled!

 

Whoever Receives The Sent People, Receives Jesus Himself

 

The preceding context of Matthew 10 is the commissioning of the 12 apostles, with authority, to go out and save people (i.e. make disciples).

 

Mat_10:37-41 CAB  He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.  38  And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.  39  He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.  40  "He that receives you receives Me, and he that receives Me receives Him who sent Me.  41  He that receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward. And he that receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

 

The preceding context of Luke 16 is the commissioning of the seven the disciples to go out and preach truth and save people (i.e. make disciples).  In the middle of commissioning these 70 disciples, Jesus laments the damnation of those who do not receive their message

 

Luk_10:10-16 CAB  But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say,  11  'The very dust from your city which clings to us we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has drawn near to you.'  12  I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.  13  "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! Because if the miracles which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.  14  Nevertheless it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the judgment than for you.  15  And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades.  16  He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me."

 

It is high time someone finally, finally came to a real Jesus!

 

Joh_6:28-29 CAB  Then they said to Him, "What should we do, that we may work the works of God?"  29  Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."

 

Joh_6:42 CAB  And they were saying, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then does this Man say, 'I have come down from heaven'?"

 

Joh_6:44-45 CAB  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me should draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.  45  It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be taught of God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to Me.

 

Joh_9:28-29 CAB  Then they reviled him and said, "You are His disciple, but we are disciples of Moses.  29  We know that God has spoken to Moses; but as for this Man, we do not know where He is from."

 

Joh_5:39-40 CAB  You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about Me.  40  But you are unwilling to come to Me, so that you may have life.

 

Joh_5:44-47 CAB  How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and do not seek the glory which is from the only God?  45  Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, in whom you have hoped.  46  For if you believed Moses, you would have believed Me; for he wrote about Me.  47  But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

 

 

 

If you hear anything clean from heaven in prayer, and this is true, then it is absolutely clear that you will come to those whom Jesus has sent on earth.

 

The irony is, that even though Jesus was rebuking them for ignoring the truth right in front of their face, hypocrites to this day are still trying to sear their conscience by imagining personal devotion to a theoretical version of god in heaven, without repenting and actually doing justice to the truth its run from their face!

    Wicked hypocrites are always pushing obedience back into a fairy tale past, even trying to use this very passage (Joh_6:45), instead of doing truth with what is put right in front of their face.

 

Independent salvation is the mindless apostasy that we already condemned by quoting Paul’s warning to the sinning Corinthians:

 

1Co_4:8 CAB  You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us; and I wish that indeed you did reign, in order that we also might reign with you!

 

If you fall to this heresy, you are willfully choosing the sin and apostasy that Paul commanded the Corinthians to repent of. If you reign without those who God sends, and you have a “strength” to go on in your salvation without needing them, then it is with Satan that you reign.

    Satan’s Independent Salvation will curse you to a worthy grave in hell, but if you care anything about truth, you will flee from this shameful madness and find righteous salvation from sin and injustice, and you will co-inherit inherit with the righteous, because you need them to make it to heaven. 

 

 

You need the Gospel Given to Each Other

When you lose this eagerness you forget the way to heaven - redeem your soul now and remember that you need what they have. You are not self-sufficient... Or self-contained, so don't live that way.

 

Remember: it is always easy to despise Paul – moments of 'insignificance' and yet glory will be revealed in him

"do you know who this is??" or have you just learned to grow up and despise Paul? After all, hasn't god spoken through you too?

 

4. The Hope & Reward of Discipleship

 

Joh_8:31-32 WEB  Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, "If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples.   32  You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

 

Joh_8:36 WEB  If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

 

Mat_3:8 CAB  Therefore produce fruits worthy of repentance,

 

Joh_15:8 WEB  "In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples.

 

See also: Mar_1:16-20, Mar_10:28-31 Mat_19:27-30, Luk_14:33, Luk_18:28-30,

>> quote some of these

 

If you want to repent of modern Christianity and become a real disciple in truth, and if you do not know of anyone who is serious and can faithfully disciple you so that you can make it to heaven, then contact us if you are eager, humble, and hungry for truth! We are here to help poor people in real need, and we are fervently interested in benefiting people unto eternal life by the proclamation of the knowledge of the Real Jesus!

 

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Created: ~2008; Revised: (unknown dates); 8/19/11

 

Phaze 1

Prayer – Truth – Community

Phaze 2

Revelation – Mission – Exploits

 

A Discipleship Training “Program”

 

Name?

Program

 

conditioning

 

Getaway

 

Boot camp

 

Resocialization

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_training

 

 

Course

Weekend

retreat

preparation

 

Internship

Apprentice

Apprenticeship

 

Training

Preparation

Instruction

coaching

camp

 

Experience

Encounter

 

Season

Term

Period

excursion

 

Disciple ship

 

DAP

 

 

DAP – Disciples and Potentials

 

People who are seeking to truly obey everything the Bible says.

 

"Limited" means that this group is restricted to people I know personally, and deal with on a closer "community" basis.

 

see: www.TrueConnection.org

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DAP – Disciples and Potentials

 

People who have responded to the good announcement of Jesus & are seeking to truly obey everything in the Bible.

 

"Limited" means that this group is restricted to people I know personally, and deal with on a closer "community" basis.

 

see: www.TrueConnection.org

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DAP – Disciples and Potentials

 

People who have responded to the good announcement of Jesus and are seeking to submit under and obey everything the Bible says, with a 0 percent tolerance for rebellion against God's Words.

 

"Limited" means that this group is restricted to people I know personally, and deal with on a closer "community" basis.

 

see:

www.TrueConnection.org

 

 

DAP–Extended

 

“Extended” Means that anyone can join in who is attracted to the message that we proclaim. This is a good way to find out about what we have going on, and see how far you might want to go in your pursuit of truth.

 

 

 

Local

Limited

personally

DAP – Disciples and Potentials that live in all kinds of places

we have not y

 

DAP – Disciples and Potentials

 

People who have responded to the good announcement of Jesus and are seeking to submit under and obey everything the Bible says, with a 0 percent tolerance for rebellion against God's Words.

 

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Proclaimer is Needed

>> Preachers Needed

>> where are original notes???????

12/11/17

 

Act 10:36 The word which he sent unto the children of Israel, preaching good news of peace by Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all)

Act 10:36  τον λογον Aον TSBον απεστειλεν τοις υιοις ισραηλ ευαγγελιζομενος ειρηνην δια ιησου χριστου ουτος εστιν παντων κυριος

Act 10:37 that saying ye yourselves know, which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

Act 10:37  υμεις οιδατε το γενομενον ρημα καθ ολης της ιουδαιας Aαρξαμενος TSBαρξαμενον απο της γαλιλαιας μετα το βαπτισμα ο εκηρυξεν ιωαννης

Act 10:38 [even] Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

 

Act 10:38  ιησουν τον απο SAναζαρεθ TBναζαρετ ως εχρισεν αυτον ο θεος πνευματι αγιω και δυναμει ος διηλθεν ευεργετων και ιωμενος παντας τους καταδυναστευομενους υπο του διαβολου οτι ο θεος ην μετ αυτου

Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the country of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom also they slew, hanging him on a tree.

Act 10:39  και ημεις TSBεσμεν μαρτυρες παντων ων εποιησεν εν τε τη χωρα των ιουδαιων και Aεν TSBεν ιερουσαλημ ον BAκαι Aανειλαν TSBανειλον κρεμασαντες επι ξυλου

Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and gave him to be made manifest,

Act 10:40  τουτον ο θεος ηγειρεν Aεν τη τριτη ημερα και εδωκεν αυτον εμφανη γενεσθαι

Act 10:41 not to all the people, but unto witnesses that were chosen before of God, [even] to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.

Act 10:41  ου παντι τω λαω αλλα μαρτυσιν τοις προκεχειροτονημενοις υπο του θεου ημιν οιτινες συνεφαγομεν και συνεπιομεν αυτω μετα το αναστηναι αυτον εκ νεκρων

Act 10:42 And he charged us to preach unto the people, and to testify that this is he who is ordained of God [to be] the Judge of the living and the dead.

Act 10:42  και παρηγγειλεν ημιν κηρυξαι τω λαω και διαμαρτυρασθαι οτι Aουτος TSBαυτος εστιν ο ωρισμενος υπο του θεου κριτης ζωντων και νεκρων

Act 10:43 To him bear all the prophets witness, that through his name everyone that believeth on him shall receive remission of sins.

 

Act 10:43  τουτω παντες οι προφηται μαρτυρουσιν αφεσιν αμαρτιων λαβειν δια του ονοματος αυτου παντα τον πιστευοντα εις αυτον

 

 

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Confronting The Heresy Of No New Revelation

5/1/17

>> See: MAEb & BIT & LO

 

the history of Noni Revelation heresy

it is often hereticly taught that there should be no new revelation, and that the Bible is a closed Canon

}} get this from bit !!!

}} this has a long history spanning from the heretical Sadducees to the apostate Jews to the heretical Protestant Reformation

 

gross assumptions of God's approval of our apostasy

the false prophets of the Old Testament prophesied that God will return their evil Kings to their Kingdom, as though that was what God wanted!

 

The Faults teachers of today act like God actually likes not speaking to humanity, and they normalize this dreary and Dreadful evil of God having to remove Himself from the worthless presence of Unfaithful people...

 

how can you be so naive and blind and hateful toward the light of the clean God so as to not realize that He wants to speak to people today and give them clean truth that we so desperately need to correct all of these heresies that are  raving all around?

 

God withdraws himself in bitter disapproval and harsh distance, and demonic Heretics normalize this as though God actually likes it!

 

law of Moses was given in an adjusted way to their hard hearts and evil nature.

the wicked religious Pharisees acted like God actually wanted to give them the law in a way to manage their evil hearts and allow their sin of divorce remarriage to continue.

just because God tolerated it did not at all indicate that He liked it or wanted it to be that way or that it was the standard for Humanity that God had ordained.

 

Wicked and perverted blind religious leaders often see the bitterness and hatred and interpret it as though God actually wants people to remain ignorant in wandering deceptive religious Spirits in to be raped by demons.

 

time to break out with prophecy

in Acts several times they taught that the last days came with an outbreak of overflowing prophecy

 

it is absolutely heretical to teach that real Prophecy from the real God is Not absolutely perfect and true according to the same perfect and infinitely true nature as the Bible.

 

in Revelation the two witnesses are said to have a testimony, and this testimony is called prophecy.

 

when the two witnesses have a testimony that is real prophecy this prophecy will be scripture , just like anything else that was prophetic and true and was wrote down in the scriptures. It is absolutely heretical to suggest that the two witnesses will not have scriptural Prophecy in the end times.

 

the Bible says they are coming.

the Bible says they are going to prophesy.

the Bible says that the prophecy will be true and it will be accompanied with miracles.

 

if you do not believe that they will be speaking the same thing as the scriptures, then you do not even believe the scriptures we already have, especially the Book of Revelation.

 

when the seals are popped that are spoken about in Daniel and in Revelation, then it is very clear that new scriptural revelation will happen.

 

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"The Holy Scriptures, comprised of Old and New Testaments, are fully and verbally inspired by God and are therefore infallible in the original writings and completely trustworthy in all areas in which they speak. Their central salvation message and essential teachings are clear and accessible to all who follow the standard and self-evident rules of literary interpretation. They are therefore the supreme, unmediated, and final authority of faith and practice for every believer. (2 Tim 3:16-17)"

http://www.crcchesapeake.org/what-we-believe

2/27/15

 

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“That’s Why You Need Discipleship”

Problem | Answer

Still got sins in your life? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Still doing what you know is wrong, but you can't stop doing it? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Feel trapped in sin, with no way out? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don't feel like you could ever be REALLY righteous? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Do you believe that no one is perfect? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Sick of church-ianity but realize there is still hypocrisy in your own life? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to be courageous and severe against hypocrites like Jesus is? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to judge the church like Paul commands? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to really love people? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Can't get over past hurts and traumas? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Can't forgive certain people? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Keep finding yourself lusting after people and things that you ought not to desire? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Can’t understand the Bible? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand end-times prophecies? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand “why God allows suffering”? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand how to take the Bible literally? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand why Abraham, Isaac, righteous Lot, and a man in the book of Judges were willing to give their women away when they were in danger? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand how to consistently know what does and does not still “apply” from the Old Testament? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to obey the high standards of the Sermon on the Mount? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand the severity of the death penalty in the Old Testament and why it is no longer practiced? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Ever get discouraged from reading the Old Testament prophets because of how severe and harsh they can be in “always talking about judgement”? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Confused about polygamy? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand “turning the other cheek”, condemnation of adulterous remarriage, women’s head coverings, how modest you have to be to go to heaven, etc.? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand “grace vs. works”? -- That’s why you need discipleship!

Do you really still think religious words like “grace”, “church”, “legalism”, etc. are actually in the Bible? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Wonder what happened to the real church? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Confused about differences in ancient Biblical texts (source text variations), and contradictory Bible versions, and which Bible version is “right”? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t understand Jesus’ parables, and often get overwhelmed and confused over how spiritual Jesus is? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to get “poor in spirit” so you can ‘inherit the kingdom of heaven’? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Got issues in your life you can’t resolve? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Got too many questions and missing puzzle pieces and confusion with life? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know how to fight evil spirits? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

“Personal relationship” with j.c. not REALLY saving you from living in sin? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Feel like you are already "saved" without us/discipleship? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Depressed? Suicidal? Feeling the meaninglessness of life? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Feel empty, worthless, vile, and ashamed? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t know why your prayer life is so dull and pathetic? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Can’t get excited about the Bible, prayer, and hearing God’s voice? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Don’t get prophecies from heaven every day? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

Confused or even angry that we did not say "salvation", or "faith", or the Ketchup (fake blood) of antichrist was the answer (like most church people say)? -- That’s why you need discipleship.

No, the answer is not churchy "salvation", superstitious “faith”, or the ketchup of antichrist.

When are you ever going to realize that you need discipleship?

11/13/16; 11/15/16; 11/26/16

 

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How “Adult Learning Styles” Disqualify You From Discipleship

>> Personal Story: Instructional Design

Tags: Teaching across generations

 

 

I feel I can claim ownership over that idea, as opposed to having to take your idea, which means I have to explicitly say, ‘I’m going to defer to you as the authority on this.’ Not everybody wants to do that,” he adds.

https://qz.com/778767/to-tell-someone-theyre-wrong-first-tell-them-how-theyre-right/?utm_source=kwfb&kwp_0=338025

3/3/17

 

 

Unless otherwise noted, quotes below are taken from the following resource, and marked with an asterisk (*):

http://www.mcc.edu/pdf/pdo/teaching_across_gen.pdf

Accessed 4/27/13

 

 

…adults tend to learn differently than traditional students because of the history and experience they bring into the classroom, so it is imperative that the instructor be cognizant of these psychological and generational differences when selecting teaching strategies and designing learning activities.

Recent trends in education have indicated a movement toward a more learner-centered style of instruction rather than the more traditional instructor-centered model. “We in adult and higher education have increasingly moved toward more active, collaborative, and experience-based forms of teaching and learning” (Dirkx, 2003).This shift toward making the learner the focus of the classroom is generally espoused as an effective method for reaching adult learners based on the andragogy theory first advanced by Malcolm Knowles, but many instructors have not incorporated these trends into their classroom repertoire. Black (2003) describes this issue as one of “rigid higher education system unwilling or unable to adapt to the reality inherent in such a diverse generation of learners” (p. 13).

Instructors entering the classroom prepared to teach in a more traditional manner are facing a backlash from the adult learners who make up a significant number of their students. “In a 10-year period, enrollment of persons ages 25 an[d] over rose by 22 percent” (Belcheir, 1999, p. 3), indicating that this trend is unlikely to abate any time soon. Instructors are unprepared to deal with the current composition of the modern college classroom and have not updated their teaching practices to reflect the actual demographics of their students.

Baker Colleges strives to be a model of inclusion for all students and while not every learning situation will target each learner’s preferred style, instructors should strive to incorporate many different types of learning activities

 

 

…instructors need to consider student age as an important factor when selecting teaching methods and strategies but often have no information about teaching techniques designed to target learners of varying ages. Instructors should be aware of all the potential factors that can impede or promote learning.

 

 

Previously, most instructors at the college and university level were concerned with teaching the “traditional” student, typically defined as a student between the ages of eighteen and twenty-two years old. However with the influx of adult learners into the classroom, the previously accepted rules of instruction are changing. Kilgore (2001) notes that “commonly held assumptions about generic learners and learning are irrelevant and even willfully oppressive when recklessly applied to all kinds of people without regard for their unique life experiences and attributes such as race, class, and gender” (p. 53). “More than ever, the gap between the instructor and the student is widening. Roles are changing” (Microsoft Corporation, 2003).

 

On-ground, the typical student is a 28 year old female. She is typically pursuing her first post-secondary degree and is seeking to improve her current work situation. Other relevant statistics include:

• 71% of Baker’s students are female

• Approximately 70% have at least one child

• 75% of students work at least part time in addition to attending school

 

 

We have a wide range of students from varying socio-economic levels at our institution at any given time, and need to make every effort to include all of these factors when designing our courses.

 

Psychology of adult learners

It is commonly understood that students, particularly adults, learn differently. “The learning styles, attitudes, and approaches of high school students differ from those of eighteen- to twenty-two year old college students. The styles, attitudes, and approaches of adult learners differ yet again” (Oblinger, 2003, p. 37). Instructors must be aware of these differences with selecting course activities and planning class sessions to better attend to the needs of all of their learners.

What is the definition of an adult? According to Knowles (1984), “the psychological definition is one who has arrived at a self-concept of being responsible for one’s own life, of being self-directing” (p. 9) Much of the current literature defines an adult learner as someone over the age of twenty-five, but does not differentiate between varying generations. Traditional learners will be considered those learners in the Millennial generation or those who are eighteen to twenty-three years old. For our purposes, the classification of an adult includes members of Generation X, the Boomer and the Silent generation, making your job more difficult with each generation of learners. Why is that? It is because “life experiences shape the way people expect to learn” (Darling, http://www.elementk.com/training_advice/htm/05-02-learninggen.asp). The time period in which you grow up has a significant impact on the way you learn as well as the way you expect to be taught. As instructors, understanding the fundamental differences between learners in your classroom will help you meet all of their needs more effectively.

 

Why not pedagogy?

Until the mid-1920s, learning theory did not differentiate between children and adults. It was not until 1928, when Edward Thorndike published his studies the learning abilities of adults that this field began to take shape. Thorndike demonstrated that adults have the capacity to learn, something that had previously been assumed but not substantiated by research until then. Further studies by Thorndike in 1935 and Sorenson in 1938 indicated that adults did have an ability to learn that was substantially different from children. Old assertions that learning was unnecessary past the age of early adulthood were gradually replaced with new ideas about the importance of adult learning, both for the individual adults and for society at large (Knowles, 1973; Truluck & Courtenay, 1999).

Now that adults were proven to have the capability to learn, another strand of research pushed forward mainly by Eduard Lindeman in 1926, proposed that adult education needed to be more student-centered rather than teacher and subject-centered. Revolutionary for its time, this work began the current push toward the self-directed learning trend prevalent in adult education theory today, making concrete the notion that “learners become increasingly self-directed as they mature” (Merriam & Caffarella, 1991, p. 8). Lindeman later influenced the work of Malcolm Knowles in his formation of the theory of andragogy.

These two strains of adult learning theory continued separately until the mid 1960s when Malcolm Knowles began working on his andragogy theory of adult learning. He published his results in his revolutionary book, The Adult Learner: A Neglected Species in 1973, although he actually introduced the term in 1968 in a series of articles (Rachal, 2002). He contrasted pedagogy, which is the art and science of teaching children, with his andragogy theory. Literally translated, andragogy is the art and science of teaching adults and became the “most persistent practice-based, instructional methods issue in adult education” (Ibid, p. 211) for quite some time.

 

Andragogy defined

At its core, andragogy holds that adult learners must be treated differently than children due to the fact that they come to the learning experience, whether formal or informal, in a different manner. Knowles (1973) puts forth the following as basic components of quality adult learning:

• Adults must first understand why they need to know something before they actually invest time in learning it

• Most adults have a fully formed self-image and tend to become resentful when these images are not valued in a learning situation

• Adults need to feel as if their life experience is important as it helps them make connections between old and new knowledge

• Adults will generally prepare more for a learning situation

• Adults “want to learn to solve or address a particular problem, and are more satisfied with their learning if everyday experiences, is practical, or is current” (Draves, p. 11).

• Adults are more intrinsically motivated to learn than children are. They are in the learning situation by choice and do not require the extrinsic motivational rewards that children do.

 

Relevance and practicality

Adult students need to see their learning as practical and relevant, particularly in a formal higher education setting. Their learning is real and meaningful, as noted by Trueman and Hartley in 1996, “mature students had better study habits than the younger students in that they engaged in more ‘deep’ and less ‘surface’ learning than did the younger students” (p. 201). Adults don’t tend to like “busy work” and will often resist work that they perceive to be unrelated to the course content or their goals. This is one reason that educators of adults need to spend time setting the context of an assignment and helping the students make connections between what they are doing in class and what they will use this knowledge/information for after their coursework is complete.

Educators can help facilitate this process by spending time before the learning event differentiating the need to know information from the nice to know information. Often adult learners will want a “bottom line” version of the information and ensuring that the most relevant practical information is covered will help adults feel that they are not wasting their time. In addition, this classification can actually become useful for the learner to help them make connections in their learning and their lives.

Occasionally it might be important for the learners to understand what they don’t know to better set the stage for the learning experience. A pre-test that mirrors the course final or some other type of assessment instrument such as a short, in-class paper or a question and answer session with the instructor will often help demonstrate the lack of knowledge and help to create that need for learning that adults seek. One caveat to this process is to ensure that the assessment isn’t too difficult or demeaning in any way since that might potentially decrease their enthusiasm for the learning experience rather than increase it.

 

Self-image

Adults use their experiences to build their self-identify, so it is important that educators communicate their respect for the manner in which adults view themselves in addition to the respect for the experience itself. “If in an educational situation an adult’s experience is ignored, not valued, not made use of, it is not just the experience that is being rejected; it is the person” (Knowles, p. 11), which will cast a negative light on the learning experience and can once again become a hindrance to both you and the learner. You will then need to work harder to regain that learner’s respect and attention to continue with the learning experience. This is a concept that could be particularly valuable to instructors in developmental education departments, due to the fact that “undereducated adults have little to sustain their dignity other than their experience” (p. 11).

 

Life experience

Adults, even younger Generation X and Millennial students, enter into a collegiate learning event with some life experience to help guide their thinking. They have, over the course of their elementary and secondary work, gained a better understanding of who they are as a person and have begun, if not completed, the process of identifying their values and beliefs which define their operating norms. Andragogy “assumes that adults enter into an educational activity with both a greater volume and a different quality of experience from youth” (Knowles, p. 10), so ignoring the experience of adults, particularly older adults, will tend to serve as a barrier to learning for that student.

As Knowles (1984) points out that “for many kinds of learning, adults are themselves the richest resources for one another” (p. 10), so taking the time to explore the experiences of your students can lead to a more comprehensive learning experience for all involved. The negative side of this issue is that adults have generated ideas and operating norms based on those very experiences we want to value and occasionally it is difficult to open their minds to new ways of thinking and being. It has been said that it is more difficult to unlearn something than it is to learn it in the first place, so adult educators must be prepared for some discomfort in the learning process.

Preparation

Adult students also have a tendency to manage their time better, possibly because of the other life circumstances that surround them as they are in school. Trueman and Hartley conducted a study of three student groups: younger students (under age 21), borderline mature students (ages 21-25) and adult students (age 25 and older) in which they found that the adult students reported the most use of time management strategies, however this use of good time management did not necessarily translate into better academic performance overall, but is a good start towards understanding why some students are easily overwhelmed and others appear to be handling the stress of school.

Motivation

Most learners do not embark on a learning experience until they experience a need, whether it is a career enhancement or a personal goal. Often this need and the learning that results from their attempt to meet it results in a form of cognitive dissonance, where they experience a shift in their thinking that conflicts with what they already believe to be true. Until they are able to resolve this dilemma, true learning can not occur, but sometimes the struggle is difficult, on the part of the learner as well as on the part of the instructor watching it occur.

Most of these needs are developed as a result of shifting life and developmental circumstances, such as:

• Life (affect) circumstances including

o Divorce

o Death of a spouse

o Retirement

• Work status changes including

o Job loss, requiring the adult to return to school to obtain new skills to be a viable member of the workforce again

o Promotion, where the learner feels the need to update or obtain new skills to keep pace with a change in job status

• Career changes, where the learner identifies a new career path and returns to school in an effort to obtain the skills necessary to pursue the new career

 

 

As research in the field of adult education continued, andragogy as a theory was called into question due to the lack of empirical studies to support its use (Rachal, 2002). One of the main issues is the “absence of a clear meaning as to what procedures constitute andragogical practice” (Ibid, p. 211). There are so many teaching strategies that could be considered andragogical that it was difficult to narrow them down to something that could be studied empirically. In addition to this issue, the issue of how to measure whether or not the learning is evident because “”effectiveness” is largely determined by learner achievement which is often measured by tests and grades; but for Knowles, tests and grades are anathema to the very idea of andragogy” (Ibid, p. 211). Andragogy began to fall out of favor during the late 1980s and early 1990s for precisely this reason.

One of the main issues inherent in the andragogical model is the fact that most learning, at least in college classrooms, requires that the instructor have some sense of where the learning event is headed before it begins. However, “instructor objectives represent a devolution from the andragogical ideal” (Ibid, p. 216). Almost all college courses have learning outcomes, but the very fact that the instructor or the institution has pre-defined these outcomes violates the principle of allowing adults to direct their own learning and to derive their own outcomes from a learning event.

As Knowles continued his work in the field of adult learning, he came to understand that andragogy is less of a learning theory and more of a structured environment “defined more by the learning situation than by the learner” (Merriam, 2001, p. 6) and his published works began to “reflect his evolving view of andragogy as a continuum” (Rachal, 2002, p. 219). Rachal goes on to suggest that “there are degrees of andragogy-ness and that implies that the appropriateness of andragogy is situational” (p. 224). This is important because this indicates that the basic components of andragogy listed above can apply to learners of various ages as long as the facilitator organizes the learning situation in such a way that these components are inherent in the design of the learning event. It is possible to use the concepts of andragogy in an elementary or secondary environment, so the idea that andragogy just speaks to adults is questionable at best.

One of the main components of adult learning theory in general that is not specific to andragogy is the idea adult students need to see their learning as practical and relevant, particularly in a formal higher education setting. Their learning is real and meaningful, and they approach the learning process differently, as noted by Trueman and Hartley in 1996, “mature students had better study habits than the younger students in that they engaged in more ‘deep’ and less ‘surface’ learning than did the younger students” (p. 201). “It is the instructor’s responsibility to see that learners work on tasks that are meaningful and relevant to the community of practice” (Pratt, 2002, p. 10). Allowing the learner to focus on what is meaningful and relevant for that learner honors one of Knowles basic tenants of andragogy, that of valuing the learner for the experience they bring to the learning event.

 

Self-directed learning

Proponents of self-directed learning say that adults will learn better when allowed to plan their own learning, often with the help of a facilitator rather than an instructor. Knowles (1984) notes that if adults are not allowed to direct themselves and are treated like children, they experience a kind of cognitive dissonance, one where “this condition expectation conflicts with their much deeper psychological need to be self-directing, and their energy is diverted way from learning to deal with this internal conflict” (p. 9). This appears to indicate that if adults are given enough control over their learning, they will eventually take charge of the learning experience to make it meaningful for them. However, he goes on to note that one of the main problems with this proposition is the fact that “even though adults may be totally self-directing in every other aspect of their lives—as workers, spouses, parents, citizens, leisure-time users—the minute they walk into a situation labeled “education,” “training,” or any of their synonyms, they hark back to their conditioning in school, assume a role of dependency and demand to be taught” (Ibid).

One of the issues with this concept is that at Baker, there are limits to the manner in which the students are allowed to direct their own learning. For instance, while it is perfectly appropriate to give the students a choice about which assignments they would like to complete to achieve the course outcomes, it is inappropriate to allow the students a hand in selecting which course outcomes they would like to complete. When faculty and staff at Baker College use the term self-directed, it generally does not extend to allowing the learner to choose their own course outcomes as those are pre-defined by the College.

 

People typically are not interested in being persuaded to adopt the preacher’s perspective when the culture celebrates the expression of their self-derived convictions

http://www.preaching.org/

11/9/16

 

 

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The Mutual Reciprocating Glory of Disciples and Spiritual Parents

10/22/16

 

Pro 17:6 WEB  Children's children are the crown of old men; the glory of children are their parents.

Pro 17:6 CAB  Children's children are the crown of old men; and their fathers are the glory of children. (17:6A) The faithful has the whole world full of wealth; but the faithless not even a farthing.

Pro 17:6  στέφανος γερόντων τέκνα τέκνων, καύχημα δὲ τέκνων πατέρες αὐτῶν.

τοῦ πιστοῦ ὅλος ὁ κόσμος τῶν χρημάτων, τοῦ δὲ ἀπίστου οὐδὲ ὀβολός.

 

1Th 2:20 CAB  For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of boasting? Is it not even you, in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?

1Th 2:19  τίς γὰρ ἡμῶν ἐλπὶς ἢ χαρὰ ἢ στέφανος καυχήσεως, ἢ οὐχὶ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἔμπροσθεν τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐν τῇ αὐτοῦ παρουσίᾳ;

1Th 2:20 For you are our glory and joy.

1Th 2:20  ὑμεῖς γάρ ἐστε ἡ δόξα ἡμῶν καὶ ἡ χαρά.

 

2Co 1:14 CAB  just as also you have understood us in part, that we are your boasting, as indeed you also are ours, in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2Co 1:14  καθὼς καὶ ἐπέγνωτε ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ μέρους, ὅτι καύχημα ὑμῶν ἐσμεν, καθάπερ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἡμῶν, ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τοῦ Κυρίου ᾿Ιησοῦ.

2Co 1:15 And in this confidence I intended to come to you earlier, that you might have a second benefit,

2Co 1:15  Καὶ ταύτῃ τῇ πεποιθήσει ἐβουλόμην πρὸς ὑμᾶς πρότερον ἐλθεῖν, ἵνα δευτέραν χάριν ἔχητε,

 

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Salvation

Below: What is Eternal Life | Common Belief Does not Save | Imitation | Be Saved by Favor

 

Salvation Defined

·        Church Person: guarantee to go to heaven instead of hell

·        Bible: rescued from sin unto righteousness

 

Terms of Salvation

·        Church Person (Protestant): believe in j.c. (faith alone)

·        Bible: Stop sinning and obey the truth & favor of God (incl. Baptism, Discipleship, obeying all the Bible, etc.)

 

Two Aspects

·        Rescued from sin -- resulting in Hell / death (Rom_6:16, etc.)

·        Rescued unto obedience & righteousness -- resulting in eternal life (Rom_5:21, etc.; Rom_6:16, etc.)

 

! Must-See Bible study: Sin - Repentance - Perfection

 

What is Eternal Life

Joh_17:1-5; (also Gal_4:9; 1Jn_5:20) – Know God

Joh_5:24 – believe (also Joh_5:40)

Joh_3:34-36

Joh_6:27

Joh_6:35

Joh_6:40

Joh_6:47-51

Gal_3:26-29

 

Salvation Did happen before Jesus died and Rose again (most of the references are before that happened, and we need to have the honesty and integrity to admit this and come to terms with it)

 

Luk_19:8-10 CAB Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord, I give half of my possessions to the poor; and if I have extorted anything from anyone, I restore fourfold."  9  And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham;  10  for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost."

 

Common Belief / Superstition Does not Save

Joh_2:23-25 Joh_3:11-12

Joh_6:36; Joh_8:30-36

(Joh_12:37-43; Joh_12:46)

Act_8:13

Jas_2:19-24 The demons believe

 

End of John - Applying Scripture and Being spiritual

being prophetic is Biblical

 

“Lesson Plan”

1. Salvation | 2. Pre-commissions | 3. John (Jesus needs to come to you) | 4. Great Commission | 5. Acts (Waiting for Jesus > Filling in ACTSion) | 6. Rom 8 > Adoption > Sealed

 

Prove it!

Don’t Be a pagan pervert!

Objectively prove that your saved by the most stringent standards before you ever dream of beliving good for yourself!

 

Rewards Vs Salvation

~2001-2007?; 3/6/17 (recompiled)

 

1Pet 5:2 In connection with Paul saying, 'If i do it unwillingly then I have no reward'

 

 

Pre-Crucifixion Salvation

12/5/03 (+Word: Created/Modified);

 

Joh 5:24 EMTV  "Most assuredly I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

 

-This was an immediately applicable promise that Jesus extended.

 

Also:

Zackias

 OT

 

 

 

Great Commission

5/9/06 (the original title: The GREAT Commission.doc); 5/10/06 (Homework: Word: Created); 1/1/13 (Homework: Word: Modified/Printed); compiled and recompiled over numerous years; 3/6/17-3/7/17 (recompiled original TX doc & SalHoSp);

 

 

>> where are the other notes for this

>> recompile: sHOSP

 

Come and See

3/7/17

The Prodo / pre-pre-commission

>> quote

>> TSK, commentaries, etc.

 

Always lawful for those loving the truth they are being saved by

 

Appolose is Lawful -- IF you are Mighty & Accurate in the Scriptures!

Another Prodo / pre-pre-commission

 

Summary Preview of Commissions

5/10/06 (Word: Created); 1/1/13 (Word: Modified/Printed); 3/6/17 (recompiled)

 

>> recompile / combine into summaries below??????

>> is this duplicated somwhere?

 

Reference                 Significance

Mat 9:35-11:1         The Pre-commission (the 12)

Lk 9:1-6; 23-27;      The Pre-commission (the 12)

Lk 9:57-10:20         The Second Pre-commission (the 70)

(Lk 22:35-36           commissions redefined to include “luggage”)

Mat 28:16-20          The Great Commission (in Galilee, with 500 people)

Mar 16:15-18          Brief summary, includes miracles as part of commission

Act 1:2-12               In-between commission and ascension

Luke 24:45-53         The ascension, in Bethany area

Act 1:4-5                 'Wait for the Holy Spirit first'

Act 1:8-9                 Promise of power; The ascension

1Co 15:1-10            A summary of all these things

Act 2:1-4                 Filled with the Holy Spirit

Act 2:36-43             Evangelizing

Act 28:3-6               Snake/deadly poison

(Act 21:15               Luggage)

 

 

The Pre-commissions – The 12 Sent Out

From the “Pre-Commissions” to The Great Commission

 

Mat_9:35-38Mat_10:1-42 (esp. Mat_10:1, Mat_10:5-42) – Hard-core

Mar_6:7-13

Luk_9:1-6

 

Sent out: makes the delegate an “Apostle” (Stationed away one)

 

These pre-commissions involve testifying even until this day, because not every city in Israel witnessed to yet.

 

Pre > Lost sheep; Great > everyone! (that’s the significance)

Made them go a long way for a visual from Galilee

(commission is not the ascension)

 

They went everywhere and taught that men should repent

Cast out demons> end of Mk casts out demons

 

"shake off dust" kept and applied to Gr. Com.

 

"Shrewd as snakes innocent as doves" epistle link

 

- You've got to understand the cost of discipleship, or you won't make disciples but converts

He's not trying to establish a religion, but a revolution!

“Sword,” He says, not to be a Gandhi, but a warier

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He chose 70, and then 12 -- from the beginning of commissioning, this does NOT include regular church people, or even all real disciples!

 

Jesus did not command all people to "GO" as almost always assumed by evangelical church people.

When Jesus actually commanded to those sent by Him to preach, this actually has an implied command for you to hear and believe:

Rom_10: -- etc. etc.

 

And not only this, but also: You are to be in a continual posture of receiving:

>>Scrip:

1Co_3:

Rom_13:? -- Preach the good announcement to you at Rome

 

 

>>Scrip:

He chose select witnesses

>> TSK

 

The Pre-commissions – The 70 Sent Out

Luk_10:1-22 – Kingdom only for children

(Similarly: Num_11:16, Num_11:24-26)

 

While Jesus was on earth He sent out His disciples to evangelize.

Why is this significant? (This is answered in John as seen later in SalHoSp)

 

(B) The Great Commission

Mat_28:18-20

Mar_16:15-19

Act_1:4-8

(Joh_17:18-23)

 

[Snakes and poison fulfilled: Act_28:3-6]

 

Reinforced

Luk_24:45-53; Act_1:4-5, Act_1:8-9

 

(C) The Pre-commissions Compared with the Great Commission

Mat_10:5-42

(1) Mat_10:5-6          Mat_28:19; Mar_16:15 – From Israel to the whole world

(2) Mat_10:8             Mar_16:17-18 – Miracles still reinforced

(3) Mat_10:9-10        Luk_22:35-36; Act_21:15 – From no provisions to preparing provisions

(4) Mat_10:14           Act_13:51; Act_18:6 – “Shaking of the dust” reinforced

(5) Luk_10:8             1Co_10:27 – From Jews eating what Jews set before Jews, to Gentiles doing the same

 

Additional Notes

(1) Also seen in: Mat_15:24; Act_3:25, Act_3:26, Act_13:46, Rom_15:8

 

 

You are Imagining Yourself on the Wrong Side

10/19/16; 3/6/17-3/7/17

 

Stop witnessing.

The Bible never commanded you to witness, make disciples, proselytize, or anything else like that.

It’s all a lie and hoax of churchianity and your own imagination, and even hell.

No matter how many good intentions some people may have in their heart, it is based on lies, deception, blindness, and even heresy.

Yes, it is actually heretical to suggest that the real Jesus and the Bible would ever want you to still have sins in your life and go out and tell other people about the fake antichrist whom never really save you, and can’t save them from their sins.

When the blind lead the blind, even if they have good intentions, they will both fall into a pit.

The real Words of Jesus will hold true no matter what your dispensable life experiences, claims, feels, thinks, and confuses.

 

I know the truth can hurt, and through your whole world up in the air.

But truth is more important than life. I would rather have truth than to keep breathing.

 

When reading “the Great Commission”, most church people imagine themselves in the wrong side of the fence. WAKE UP!: The Bible is not telling you to go out and evangelize! The Bible is telling you (by implication) to submit to the baptism and discipleship OF THOSE HE SENT until you finally learn how to OBEY everything Jesus says -- and disobeying this is the biggest disobedience that will not only cause your neighbor to never hear the truth, but your very own soul is ready to perish in hell for living in continual sin and disobedience of these Words.

 

Why do you witness to others when you still have sins in your life?

You only multiply sin upon the earth with your defiled testimony.

Your life is fake and fraudulent and non-canonical.

 

You are depraved, desolate, poor, miserable, blind, naked, and evil to the core.

 

your luxury cannot ever evangelize the poor unto life.

You can only increase the pollutions of this age and anger the high and distant God against your rebellion and ignorance.

 

Commission Initiated

3/7/17

 

Act_2:1-4, Act_2:36-43 – Repent, and be baptized (38)… they continued steadfastly (42)

 

See: the rest of Acts……

 

> Snakes and poison fulfilled: Act_28:3-6

 

> Act_21:15  After these days we took up our baggage and went up to Jerusalem.

 

 

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Stll dilivered up to the councils

Paul stood before kings...

Before "Gentiles" a forshadowing of GrCom

Apostels returned with joy. Not yet given up to synagogs... see Jesus' End-time prophecy

Father/childre diliver up to death

hated by all men for name sake

Precommission is to last threw the time Jesus returns

 

Why do you lack motivation to evangelize?

One of the scientific definitions of "life" is that it reproduces

If you don't want to reproduce, it may indicate that your not alive!

Are you alive? Are you a disciple? Disciples desire to reproduce spiritual children.

(see Paul)

 

The Commission Rebooted Today!

3/7/17

 

>>Scrip:

Will son of man find faith on the earth

 

It goes without saying to all who have any since enough to escape from the obvious and ridiculous deception, that virtually none of the commissions have been very active for more than 1,000 years.

 

It is time to make a difference.

Not by “going out and witnessing”, but by finally starting with you actually becoming a real disciple!

 

Discipleship is what the commissions are about

-forsake all

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

-Disciples burn to reproduce

-Disciples burn to connect others to Jesus

 

"How do I do it?"

-Go over seas?

-Short-term mission trips?

 

>But rather, first find out where is your Jerusalem

-School- If you can't be faithful here neither will you be faithful moving overseas

-Unsaved people go to church every Sunday (not just the visitors or street-looking people, but often they have been there their whole life...)

-TRACTS

 

Disciples not proselytes

The Pharisees made converts, we are to make disciples

Dark ages, Catholics made converts by the sword

Today we typically make proselytes with polluted evangelicalism

 

Extra

 

Don't hold back!

Act_20:20-21  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,  21  Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Act_20:26-27  Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.  27  For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.

 

Take Luggage

Luk_22:35-36  And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.  36  Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

 

 

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10/8/16

 

 

Ezr_7:25 WEB  You, Ezra, after the wisdom of your God who is in your hand, appoint magistrates and judges, who may judge all the people who are beyond the River, all such as know the laws of your God; and teach him who doesn't know them.

Ezr_7:25 CAB  And you, Ezra, as the wisdom of God is in your hand, appoint scribes and judges, that they may judge for all the people beyond the river, all that know the law of the Lord your God; and you shall make it known to him that knows not.

Ezr_7:25  καὶ σύ, Εσδρα, ὡς ἡ σοφία τοῦ θεοῦ ἐν χειρί σου κατάστησον γραμματεῖς καὶ κριτάς, ἵνα ὦσιν κρίνοντες παντὶ τῷ λαῷ τῷ ἐν πέρα τοῦ ποταμοῦ, πᾶσιν τοῖς εἰδόσιν νόμον τοῦ θεοῦ σου, καὶ τῷ μὴ εἰδότι γνωριεῖτε.

 

 

 

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10/7/16

 

Ezr_1:5 WEB  Then rose up the heads of fathers' houses of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, even all whose spirit God had stirred to go up to build the house of Yahweh which is in Jerusalem.

Ezr_1:5 CAB  Then the chiefs of the families of Judah and Benjamin arose, and the priests, and the Levites, all whose spirit the Lord stirred up to go up to build the house of the Lord that is in Jerusalem.

Ezr_1:5  καὶ ἀνέστησαν ἄρχοντες τῶν πατριῶν τῷ Ιουδα καὶ Βενιαμιν καὶ οἱ ἱερεῖς καὶ οἱ Λευῖται, πάντων ὧν ἐξήγειρεν ὁ θεὸς τὸ πνεῦμα αὐτῶν τοῦ ἀναβῆναι οἰκοδομῆσαι τὸν οἶκον κυρίου τὸν ἐν Ιερουσαλημ.

 

 

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j.c. does not get to stop real disciples / apostles / prophets from having their own disciples

9/1/16

 

Mat_11:2 NASV Now when John heard in the prison the works of the Christ, °he sent |two| of his disciples

Mat_11:2  ο δε ιωαννης ακουσας εν τω δεσμωτηριω τα εργα του χριστου πεμψας Aδια TSBδυο των μαθητων αυτου

>> Sync: CBV | Dis

 

 

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Forsake All Discipleship

6/19/16 (recompiled); 4/16/17; 9/5/21…9/15/23-9/16/23; 9/22/23

 

Forsaking All is the only way to obtain saving Biblical Discipleship.

 

Preview Summaries of Forsaking All

Consider the following Preview Summaries of Forsaking All

 

The Righteous Forsake All

Gen_12:1; Act_7:3; Act_19:19; Rth_2:11; Mat_10:37; Luk_14:33 (Luk_14:25-35); Mat_13:44-45; 2Co_6:17; Phi_3:7-8; Heb_11:8;

Luk_14:33 (Luk_14:25-35) – Forsake All Possessions [arrange-away all beginning under-substance]

Mat_13:44-46 – Treasure & Pearl: Sell all to buy Surpassing Value

Phi_3:7-8 – Counting/Leading all things to be a loss to gain Anointed One

Act_8:18-24 Simon the Magician/Sorcerer Failed (was still evil...)

Act_19:19 – Magic book burning (public repentance)

Gen_12:1-9/Act_7:3/Heb_11:8 Abram leaves relatives for unknown land

Rth_2:11-12 – Ruth leaves native country & family for refuge under monotheism

Mat_10:37-39 – You're unworthy if you're loving anyone more than Jesus

2Co_6:17-18 – Be separate-clean & God will be your Father

[Mat_12:46-50; Mar_3:33-35; Luk_8:19-21 – those hearing and doing the Word of God / the will of the Father will be your family]

 

Disciples Forsake All

Mat_4:22 – Left boat & father

Mar_1:18 – Left nets

Luk_5:11 – Left everything

Luk_5:28 – Levi/Matthew left everything

 

Rich Young Ruler Fails

Mat_19:21, Mat_19:27 / Mar_10:28 / Luk_18:22-23, Luk_18:28-30

 

Ruler went away sad, unlike disciples who left everything.

 

Failing By Holding on to This Age

Mat_8:19-22; Act_5:1-5; Act_8:19-22; 2Ti_4:10;

 

Mat_8:19-22 – Mr. Too Quick & Mr. Too Slow

Act_5:1-11 – Ananias & Sapphira gave part, but claimed to give all

Act_8:18-24 Simon the Magician/Sorcerer still evil...

2Ti_4:10 Demas forsook Paul, loving this now age

 

Hate This World to Win

1Jo_2:15-16 – Don’t Love the World

(lust & boasting of this temporary life)

Joh_12:25 – hate your own soul in this world

Mat_5:29-30; Mat_18:8 – eye, hand, foot -- cut them out if they are scandalizing you (making you fall into sin)

 

>>> See: Soulish

Hate soul in this age

 

 

Moses

 

-- Under Construction --

 

>> combine w previous sections

 

 

Heb_11:24-28 – Moses forsook* v.27·the treasures of v.26 Egypt v.26 & 27

·        Had to leave his righteous parents and siblings…

·        Had to leave everything

 

* in Heb_11 forsook = κατέλιπεν Αἴγυπτον

i.e. leave down behind as leftovers

 

Disciples

Other date(s) (2016-2017, as seen above); 9/22/23

 

In some passages, like the Gospels, “Forsake” = lit. send away / leave…

 

(1) Preceding Context

 

(A) John

Before the big day when they were called to leave everything (seen below), they were being repeatedly reminded that forsaking all was required…

 

(B) Fishers of Men

They were called to be fishers of men.

See: Luke, esp. where it says how shocked they were at the multiplying of the fish.

 

(2) They Forsook All

 

Mat_4:20 CAB  They immediately left their nets and followed Him.

Mat_4:20  οἱ δὲ εὐθέως ἀφέντες τὰ δίκτυα ἠκολούθησαν αὐτῷ.

 

Mat_4:20 CAB  οιG3588T-NPM  the δεG1161CONJ δέ but ευθεωςG2112ADV εὐθέως directly αφεντεςG863V-2AAP-NPM ἀφίημι an intensive form of ταG3588T-APN  the δικτυαG1350N-APN δίκτυον a seine ηκολουθησανG190V-AAI-3P ἀκολουθέω to be in the same way with αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it 

 

Mar_1:18 CAB  And immediately leaving their nets they followed Him.

Mar_1:18  καὶ εὐθέως ἀφέντες τὰ δίκτυα αὐτῶν ἠκολούθησαν αὐτῷ.

Mar_1:19 And having gone forth from there a little, He saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the boat mending their nets.

Mar_1:19  Καὶ προβὰς ἐκεῖθεν ὀλίγον εἶδεν ᾿Ιάκωβον τὸν τοῦ Ζεβεδαίου καὶ ᾿Ιωάννην τὸν ἀδελφὸν αὐτοῦ, καὶ αὐτοὺς ἐν τῷ πλοίῳ καταρτίζοντας τὰ δίκτυα,

Mar_1:20 And immediately He called them. And after they left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hired workers, they went away after Him.

Mar_1:20  καὶ εὐθέως ἐκάλεσεν αὐτούς, καὶ ἀφέντες τὸν πατέρα αὐτῶν Ζεβεδαῖον ἐν τῷ πλοίῳ μετὰ τῶν μισθωτῶν ἀπῆλθον ὀπίσω αὐτοῦ.

Mar_1:21 And they were going into Capernaum. And immediately on the Sabbath, He entered the synagogue and began teaching.

Mar_1:21  Καὶ εἰσπορεύονται εἰς Καφαρναούμ· καὶ εὐθέως τοῖς σάββασιν εἰσελθὼν εἰς τὴν συναγωγὴν ἐδίδασκε.

 

Mar 1:18  καιG2532CONJ καί and ευθυςG2117ADV εὐθύς straight να [ευθεωςG2112ADV εὐθέως directly] τσβ αφεντεςG863V-2AAP-NPM ἀφίημι an intensive form of ταG3588T-APN  the δικτυαG1350N-APN δίκτυον a seine [αυτωνG846P-GPM αὐτός he, she, it] τσβ ηκολουθησανG190V-AAI-3P ἀκολουθέω to be in the same way with αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it 

Mar 1:19  καιG2532CONJ καί and προβαςG4260V-2AAP-NSM προβαίνω to walk forward [εκειθενG1564ADV ἐκεῖθεν thence] τσβ ολιγονG3641ADV ὀλίγος puny ειδενG1492V-2AAI-3S οἶδα to see ιακωβονG2385N-ASM Ἰάκωβος Jacobus τονG3588T-ASM  the τουG3588T-GSM  the ζεβεδαιουG2199N-GSM Ζεβεδαῖος Zebedaeus καιG2532CONJ καί and ιωαννηνG2491N-ASM Ἰωάννης Joannes τονG3588T-ASM  the αδελφονG80N-ASM ἀδελφός a brother αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it καιG2532CONJ καί and αυτουςG846P-APM αὐτός he, she, it ενG1722PREP ἔν in τωG3588T-DSN  the πλοιωG4143N-DSN πλοῖον a sailer καταρτιζονταςG2675V-PAP-APM καταρτίζω to complete thoroughly ταG3588T-APN  the δικτυαG1350N-APN δίκτυον a seine 

Mar 1:20  καιG2532CONJ καί and ευθυςG2117ADV εὐθύς straight να [ευθεωςG2112ADV εὐθέως directly] τσβ εκαλεσενG2564V-AAI-3S καλέω to call αυτουςG846P-APM αὐτός he, she, it καιG2532CONJ καί and αφεντεςG863V-2AAP-NPM ἀφίημι an intensive form of τονG3588T-ASM  the πατεραG3962N-ASM πατήρ a father αυτωνG846P-GPM αὐτός he, she, it ζεβεδαιονG2199N-ASM Ζεβεδαῖος Zebedaeus ενG1722PREP ἔν in τωG3588T-DSN  the πλοιωG4143N-DSN πλοῖον a sailer μεταG3326PREP μετά accompaniment τωνG3588T-GPM  the μισθωτωνG3411N-GPM μισθωτός a wage-worker απηλθονG565V-2AAI-3P ἀπέρχομαι to go off οπισωG3694ADV ὀπίσω to the back αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it 

 

Luk_5:11 CAB  And having brought the boats to land, they left everything and followed Him.

Luk_5:11  καὶ καταγαγόντες τὰ πλοῖα ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν, ἀφέντες ἅτσβπαντα ἠκολούθησαν αὐτῷ.

Luk_5:11 GRVii+  καιG2532CONJ καί and καταγαγοντεςG2609V-2AAP-NPM κατάγω to lead down ταG3588T-APN  the πλοιαG4143N-APN πλοῖον a sailer επιG1909PREP ἐπί superimposition τηνG3588T-ASF  the γηνG1093N-ASF γ soil αφεντεςG863V-2AAP-NPM ἀφίημι an intensive form of πανταG3956A-APN πᾶς all να [απανταG537A-APN ἅπας absolutely all] τσβ ηκολουθησανG190V-AAI-3P ἀκολουθέω to be in the same way with αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it

 

Other disciples

Mat_9:9; Mar_2:14; Luk_5:27-28 – Matthew/Levi

 

Forsaking All -- Summary for the 12 Apostles

·        (1) Mat_4:20 / Mar_1:18: Left nets + followed Mat

·        (2) Mar_1:20: Left father! (+ workers) + followed

·        (3) Luk_5:11: Left All (+ boats) + followed

·        Seems like Luke consistently emphasis “forsake all” the most

 

[(1) Mat = Mar (Greek): εὐθέως ἀφέντες τὰ δίκτυα]

[(2) Mar_1:20: ἀφέντες τὸν πατέρα αὐτῶν (BTW: souses are told not to do this to each other in 1Co_7)]

[(3) ἀφέντες ἅτσβπαντα ]

 

[Followed: (A) Mat_4:20/Luk_5:11: ἠκολούθησαν αὐτῷ; (B) Mar_1:20: ὀπίσω αὐτοῦ]

 

 

 

Treasure & Pearl

 

Mat_13:44-45 – Treasure & Pearl

·        Mat_13:44 – Treasure Hidden in a Field

·        Mat_13:45 – Pearl of Much Value/Honor (AKA Pearl of Great Price)

 

 

 

 

Luke 14 vs. 18 – Forsake All vs. Rich Young Ruler

 

Luk_14:25-35

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Luk_18:18 -- Rich Young Ruler (Mat_19:16 & Mar_10:17, etc.)

 

Luke has a clear emphasis on forsaking all

 

Notice the “Forsake” irony when comparing…

Luk_14:33 = Luk_9:61

(see: Greek)

 

Typical Excuses

9/5/21; 9/22/23

 

"Forsake all!" can be a condemning challenge when coupled with the phrase, "All means all !"

https://www.thebereancall.org/content/june-2006-q-and-a-1?sapurl=Lys5MjZkL2xiL2xpLyt3dm44dWs4P2JyYW5kaW5nPXRydWUmZW1iZWQ9dHJ1ZSZyZWNlbnRSb3V0ZT1hcHAud2ViLWFwcC5saWJyYXJ5Lmxpc3QmcmVjZW50Um91dGVTbHVnPSUyQnd2bjh1azg=

9/5/21

 

It’s crazy how church people don’t like, and can’t bear, the Truth of the Bible.

They still want to claim all of its benefits of heaven without listening to its testimony against them and obey its correcting rebukes against their evil unsaved hearts!

They want to re-apply the blessings of eternal life for the obedient to their evil apostate hearts of unbelief and stiff-necked rebellion.

They will flatter themselves to heaven but will by no means let themselves be convicted in order to have real clean Biblical faith, and they refuse to repent and change and be saved by the clean Truth of forsake-all obedient discipleship.

 

Stay Poor or Get Supernatural Provision After Forsaking All?

Other date(s); …9/16/23

 

Examples of Receiving Provision After Forsaking All

·        Gadarene demoniac

·        Martha & company had a house

·        Women in Luk_8:1-3 helped Jesus out of their “substance”

·        “substance”* in Luk_8:3 = “possessions”* in Luk_14:33

 

* Greek: ὑπάρχω = lit. beginning under substance

Luk_8:3 …αἵτινες διηκόνουν αὐτῷ ἀπὸ τῶν ὑπαρχόντων αὐταῖς.

Luk 14:33  οὕτως οὖν πᾶς ἐξ ὑμῶν, ὃς οὐκ ἀποτάσσεται πᾶσι τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ ὑπάρχουσιν, οὐ δύναται εἶναί μου μαθητής.

 

Israelites Exemplified Forsaking Family

…9/22/23

 

-- Under Construction --

 

There are many particular special examples of how the Israelites were commanded to exemplify forsaking all:

·        They left Egypt for the Promised Land.

·        They were to love God with everything, more than family. (Deuteronomy 6, etc.)

·        They were to kill apostates even if they were beloved friends and family (Deuteronomy 13, 18, etc. -- remember: these are rules for Monotheistic Theocracy, not civilians, and not allowed at all for disciples under the New Covenant)

 

3/29/17

Exo: every man slay bro... inherit a blessing

 

 

Priests Exemplified Forsaking Family

 

….

 

3/29/17

Lev 10 -- Priests love God more than fam

Phinias

 

 

Lev_10: Aaron’s sons killed

 

 

Lev_21:1 WEB  Yahweh said to Moses, "Speak to the priests, the sons of Aaron, and say to them, 'A priest shall not defile himself for the dead among his people;

Lev_21:1 LB  The Holiness of Priests And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the priests, the sons of Aaron, and you shall tell them that they shall not defile themselves in their nation for the dead,

Lev_21:1  Καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγων Εἰπὸν τοῖς ἱερεῦσιν τοῖς υἱοῖς Ααρων καὶ ἐρεῖς πρὸς αὐτούς Ἐν ταῖς ψυχαῖς οὐ μιανθήσονται ἐν τῷ ἔθνει αὐτῶν

Lev_21:2 WEB  except for his relatives that are near to him: for his mother, for his father, for his son, for his daughter, for his brother,

Lev_21:2 but they may mourn for a relative who is very near to them, for a father and mother, and sons and daughters, for a brother,

Lev_21:2  ἀλλ᾿ ἢ ἐν τῷ οἰκείῳ τῷ ἔγγιστα αὐτῶν, ἐπὶ πατρὶ καὶ μητρὶ καὶ υἱοῖς καὶ θυγατράσιν, ἐπ᾿ ἀδελφῷ

Lev_21:3 WEB  and for his virgin sister who is near to him, who has had no husband; for her he may defile himself.

Lev_21:3 and for a virgin sister that is near to him, that has no husband; for her he may defile himself.

Lev_21:3  καὶ ἐπ᾿ ἀδελφῇ παρθένῳ τῇ ἐγγιζούσῃ αὐτῷ τῇ μὴ ἐκδεδομένῃ ἀνδρί, ἐπὶ τούτοις μιανθήσεται.

Lev_21:4 WEB  He shall not defile himself, being a chief man among his people, to profane himself.

Lev_21:4 Otherwise he shall not defile himself suddenly among his people to profane himself.

Lev_21:4  οὐ μιανθήσεται ἐξάπινα ἐν τῷ λαῷ αὐτοῦ εἰς βεβήλωσιν αὐτοῦ .

Lev_21:5 WEB  " 'They shall not shave their heads, neither shall they shave off the corners of their beards, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.

Lev_21:5 And you shall not shave your head for the dead with a baldness on the top; and they shall not shave their beard, neither shall they make gashes on their flesh.

Lev_21:5  καὶ φαλάκρωμα οὐ ξυρηθήσεσθε τὴν κεφαλὴν ἐπὶ νεκρῷ καὶ τὴν ὄψιν τοῦ πώγωνος οὐ ξυρήσονται καὶ ἐπὶ τὰς σάρκας αὐτῶν οὐ κατατεμοῦσιν ἐντομίδας.

 

Lev_21:11 WEB  neither shall he go in to any dead body, nor defile himself for his father, or for his mother;

Lev_21:11 neither shall he go in to any dead body, neither shall he defile himself for his father or his mother.

Lev_21:11  καὶ ἐπὶ πάσῃ ψυχῇ τετελευτηκυίᾳ οὐκ εἰσελεύσεται, ἐπὶ πατρὶ αὐτοῦ οὐδὲ ἐπὶ μητρὶ αὐτοῦ οὐ μιανθήσεται·

Lev_21:12 WEB  neither shall he go out of the sanctuary, nor profane the sanctuary of his God; for the crown of the anointing oil of his God is upon him. I am Yahweh.

Lev_21:12 And he shall not go forth out of the sanctuary, and he shall not profane the sanctuary of his God, because the holy anointing oil of God is upon him: I am the Lord.

Lev_21:12  καὶ ἐκ τῶν ἁγίων οὐκ ἐξελεύσεται καὶ οὐ βεβηλώσει τὸ ἡγιασμένον τοῦ θεοῦ αὐτοῦ, ὅτι τὸ ἅγιον ἔλαιον τὸ χριστὸν τοῦ θεοῦ ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ· ἐγὼ κύριος.

 

 

>> Dis | RAS | DAR

 

 

Lev 21:9 WEB  " 'The daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by playing the prostitute, she profanes her father: she shall be burned with fire.

Lev 21:9 And if the daughter of a priest should profane herself by playing the harlot, she profanes the name of her father: she shall be burned with fire.

Lev 21:9  καὶ θυγάτηρ ἀνθρώπου ἱερέως ἐὰν βεβηλωθῇ τοῦ ἐκπορνεῦσαι, τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῆς αὐτὴ βεβηλοῖ· ἐπὶ πυρὸς κατακαυθήσεται.

 

The law already says that all Israelites are not allowed to make their daughters to be prostitutes.

The difference is that the leaders and their daughters are punished with greater severity.

As the new testament says, and they will receive greater condemnation if they fall into sins.

 

Leaders often hurt alone

Compare: David not allowed to unbridaled-ly mourn for his son…

 

DAR: leaders higher standard is reflected by what the people are also commanded

 

Just because the leaders are commanded to be blameless, but does not mean that the people are allowed to be guilty

 

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Poor People Exemplify Forsaking

Other date(s); 9/16/23

 

-- Under Construction --

 

They were in great danger when sailing in the violent storm for days, and then…

 

Act 27:40 And casting off the anchors, they were leaving them in the sea, meanwhile loosening the ropes of the rudders; and having raised the mainsail to the wind, they began steering toward the beach.

Act 27:40  καὶ τὰς ἀγκύρας περιελόντες εἴων εἰς τὴν θάλασσαν ἅμα ἀνέντες τὰς ζευκτηρίας τῶν πηδαλίων, καὶ ἐπάραντες τὸν ἀρτέμωνα τῇ πνεούσῃ κατεῖχον εἰς τὸν αἰγιαλόν.

Act 27:40  και τας αγκυρας περιελοντες ειων εις την θαλασσαν αμα ανεντες τας ζευκτηριας των πηδαλιων και επαραντες τον Aαρτεμωνα TSBαρτεμονα τη πνεουση κατειχον εις τον αιγιαλον

 

It is very interesting how easy it is to forsake all when you have very little and you realize that your life is at stake!

 

 

Blind Bartimaeus

7/9/16; 9/10/17; 9/16/23

 

Deu_24:12 KJV+  And ifH518 the manH376 be poor,H6041 thou shalt notH3808 sleepH7901 with his pledge:H5667

Deu_24:12 LB And if the man is poor, you shall not keep his pledge overnight.

Deu_24:12  ἐὰν δὲ ὁ ἄνθρωπος πένηται, οὐ κοιμηθήσῃ ἐν τῷ ἐνεχύρῳ αὐτοῦ·

Deu_24:13 KJV+  In any case thou shalt deliverH7725 H7725 him(H853) the pledgeH5667 again when the sunH8121 goeth down,H935 that he may sleepH7901 in his own raiment,H8008 and blessH1288 thee: and it shall beH1961 righteousnessH6666 unto thee beforeH6440 the LORDH3068 thy God.H430

Deu_24:13 You shall surely restore his pledge at sunset, and he shall sleep in his own cloak, and he shall bless you; and it shall be mercy to you before the Lord your God.

Deu_24:13  ἀποδόσει ἀποδώσεις τὸ ἐνέχυρον αὐτοῦ περὶ δυσμὰς ἡλίου, καὶ κοιμηθήσεται ἐν τῷ ἱματίῳ αὐτοῦ καὶ εὐλογήσει σε, καὶ ἔσται σοι ἐλεημοσύνη ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου.

>> TSK -- incl. Leviticus ref??

 

>>Scrip:

Blind Bartimaeus so quickly through his tunic (himation) aside (he “forsook all”) when the superior truth came in front of him, and that was all that he had to give as a pledge.

 

Contrast this righteous faith with the morbid complacency today of people who hold onto the death of their ignorance when Bible Truth finally comes in front of them to save them and they turn up their nose and push it away from themselves!

 

Compare this blind man with the rich young ruler in Matthew 19 who couldn’t leave his wealth…

 

As it says…

 

Blessed are the poor -- they are sooo fortunate and happy, because they just get it: the spiritual Kingdom makes so much sense to them that they just get it and inherit it as their inheritance (by lot and by law).

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

 

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Give up “You,” Forsake Your own Soul

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

Mat_16:25 - loose soul

Mar_8:35

Luk_9:24

Luk_14:11 - whoever exalts himself...

Luk_14:26-35 - forsake all

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

Luk_17:33 - loose soul

Phi_2:5-8 - Jesus did not exalt Himself

 

What does it mean to “Forsake Wife” as said in Luk_18:29?

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

What would that look like?

(Cross references: Mat_19:29/ Mar_10:29)

 

1Co_7:12-15

Mic_7:5-7

Deu_13:6

Luk_14:25-35

 

Also Compare:

www.DivorceAndRemarriageBook.com

 

 

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You have to submissively listen under those who proclaim to you

 

Heb_2:3 RV how shall we escape, if we neglect so great a salvation? which having at the first been spoken through the Lord, was confirmed unto us by them that heard;

Heb_2:3  πως ημεις εκφευξομεθα τηλικαυτης αμελησαντες σωτηριας ητις αρχην λαβουσα λαλεισθαι δια του κυριου υπο των ακουσαντων εις ημας εβεβαιωθη

 

 

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Blessed is He Who Comes

2/20/16

>> Dis / NOW

 

Until you say, Blessed is he who comes in the Name of the Lord

 

They said this in their creeds for many years before and after Jesus' time on earth.

But now it is time to REALLY say it. -- the one difference between truth and falshood here is your willingness to say it in truth without hypocrisy, to the one whom God has sent...

 

 

Just Saying is actually not saying it at all, so much so that God destroyed their entire city until they would break and confess to the truth that was right in front of their face...

 

 

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Salvation Hoax

3/2/16

 

Most of churchianity is motivated by boasting in their own fake salvation.

If you don't play into faith in their sin, they have no motivation or hope toward you at all.

 

In great contrast, Jesus said you should be focused on faith in God's truth that you would keep praying and believing Him even if He felt tant and interested in you as if he were an unjust judge...

Not motivated by self affirmation, but believing and prayerful even when God feels like an unjust Judge who doesn't even like you...

 

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When to Not Be Around Other Forms of Spiritual Human Life

3/3/16

>> where else did I address this…

>> find other refs

 

 

Gen_13:9 KJV+  Is notH3808 the wholeH3605 landH776 beforeH6440 thee? separate thyself,H6504 I pray thee,H4994 fromH4480 H5921 me: ifH518 thou wilt take the left hand,H8040 then I will go to the right;H3231 or ifH518 thou depart to the right hand,H3225 then I will go to the left.H8041

Gen_13:9 Behold, is not the whole land before you? Separate yourself from me; if you go to the left, I will go to the right, and if you go to the right, I will go to the left.”

Gen_13:9  οὐκ ἰδοὺ πᾶσα ἡ γῆ ἐναντίον σού ἐστιν; διαχωρίσθητι ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ· εἰ σὺ εἰς ἀριστερά, ἐγὼ εἰς δεξιά· εἰ δὲ σὺ εἰς δεξιά, ἐγὼ εἰς ἀριστερά.

 

 

>> comp.:

 

John the Baptist and Jesus serving in different locations w a different set of disciples -- they eventually went from john to Jesus…

 

We forbad him because He does not follow us

 

Why is our situation different

What should we expect from people when calling them to believe the good announcement?

Esp. “forsake all”

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

 

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NT Priests -- Required

2/11/16-2/12/16; 9/22/23

 

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2/12/16

Administers/servants of a New Covenant

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>>Scrip:

Seeking to establish their own righteousness

>> rather than getting in the water and getting discipled like the Bible say in order to receive mercy and forgiveness of sins and the free gift of righteousness…

 

But rather than obey God and obtain life from Him, they go about independently, not needing God’s “priests”, so they seek to establish their own righteousness apart from the priesthood of God.

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YT: Produce fruit worthy of repentance:

1/24/16

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

 

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Disciples Ask Questions

1/9/16-1/10/16

>> Comp: QNAs, ROW, Dis

Disciples-Ask-Questions--1.10.16.mp3

 

Mike: you can recognize a disciple because they are the ones asking questions after a teaching.

 

And, you can tell WHO you're a disciple of based on what questions you are asking (by the nature of the questions you ask)

 

 

Rationally “Taking in Before You Put Out” is a Basic Element of Monotheism

It is monotheistic to ask questions before Speaking, Responding, or Acting

 

Moses: you will NOT follow the sight of your eyes or your own heart!

Num_15:39 (Num_15:37-41); Ecc_11:9

TSK: ye seek not: Deu_29:19, Job_31:7, Pro_28:26, Ecc_11:9, Jer_9:14, Eze_6:9

 

The way you hear is by circumcising your ears and your heart.

A good disciple asks until they are able to respond correctly.

If you don’t know how to respond immediately, then a good disciple keeps asking questions until they can respond appropriately

 

Slow to Speak

Jam_1:19 LITV  my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak… [A reference from Sir_5:11; See: Apocrypha_Defense.rtf]

See: ROW

Jas_1:19  AιστεG1492 [G5759] TSBωστεG5620 αδελφοι μου αγαπητοι εστω Aδε πας ανθρωπος ταχυς εις το ακουσαι βραδυς εις το λαλησαι βραδυς εις οργην

[last St Num = G5624, not G5759]

Mat_5:25: ισθιG1510

 

Sir_5:11  Be swift to hear,

and let your life be in truth,13 [13 [Sir5:11] some Greek add]

but slow to answer.

 

By the way- Those who quickly claim to not sin with their mouth are virtually always prematurely celebrating a victory never won

 

Instead of being quick to speak, you should be listening, comprehending the challenge, and then asking questions until you fulfil that righteousness that is upon you

 

If you answer quickly, that is paganism.

 

Considerations on Sirach and James, & Beyond

 

Some Basic Monotheistic Principles of Asking Questions

Social Summaries of “Question-Asking”

 

 

 

Responding to & Dealing with the Bad Questions of Enemies

Mostly See: cheap shots

 

 

Joh_8:2-8 -- Jesus ignores them

Luk_7:36 -- first time Jesus invited by Pharisee to eat, it did not go so bad.

Luk_11:53 – Second time: Very Hostile! -- read all of: Luk_11:37-54

TSK (on Luk_11:54): seeking: Psa_37:32, Psa_37:33, Psa_56:5, Psa_56:6, Mat_22:15, Mat_22:18, Mat_22:35, Mar_12:13 [Luk_11:54]

 

The Point: Negative Question Dynamics

 

 

The Advanced Virtues of Disciple-Questions

 

Integrity that Keeps You Saved

 

Virtue Toward God that Produces Love Toward Man

 

 

 

V: I would like to learn the difference of when to let things simmer and when to ask quickly

 

You need to let things simmer as long as it takes for your heart to value them, else your questioning will be evil and unbelief

People who fail to be disciples WILL NOT believe even when an answer were to be given to them

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Baptism

12/22/15 (Not “How” But “Who”); 1/24/16 (Get In The Water’ = Salvation)

>> move the main baptism bibles study from FAQs, to this Bible study.

 

 

John Said ‘Get In The Water’ = Salvation

1/24/16

John the Baptist showed salvation by baptism when he said ‘get in the water’ if you want to repent.

 

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Not “How” But “Who”

12/22/15

The first question is not “how” but “who” -- who were you baptize by?

Have you ever been baptized by someone perfect words?

(note: who knows, if you were on your deathbed, maybe it would be OK to do “pouring”, as the Didache says.

 

When you have been baptized into truth, you are no longer obligated to keep on sinning.

 

Why do you think that you’re going to heaven if you have never been baptized into truth, and you can’t even bring forward a legitimate claim as to why you don’t have to live in sin?

 

 

 

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Suppose a man tells a woman that he really wants to marry her, but he does not like the way she looks. So is the insulting foolishness of the one who says they want to follow Jesus, while refusing to believe they need discipleship from Jesus’ Perfect Bride.

11/10/15

 

 

 

Why Faith No Longer Saves

10/13/15

Biblical faith is an extreme mystry, because although you do not "do anything" to earn anything yet it contains this baffeling mysterious justice of justifying what God says when you believe a truth proclaimer (as Romans 10 says) and this verbal 'justice', the together-confession of your lips, without you doing any work, God is happy to speak this into justice on behal of your soul and save you.

Because, mysteriously, although words are not 'work' they are deeds, and although you don't actually DO any truth of your own self, but when you surrender your own will and speak in aggrement with the truth, God is pleased to justify you too. As it says, whoever confesses me infront of men, I will also confess him before my Father. -- Jesus is doing the weighty part which you could never do, of standing before the Father, and all you do is agree with Him and confess truth.

 

Has it ever bothered you when someone greviously lied against you? And was it ever relieving when the truth finally came out and someone justified you? How relieving it is when someone else takes up your cause and justifies you!

This is also like the story of Tamar and Judah... God made sure to force his tribal leader to acknowledge and justify Tamar's justice over his own. This is the good confession that saves us when we do the justice of Justifying truth proclamation when it appears to be a scandal. And this real faith is the only thing that saves you.

 

Biblical salvation is about getting justified by faith.

"christianity" does not work today because the burning justice inherent in believing in the (scandalous hard core) truth has been striped out, and we are left with something wosrse than bleeched junk food. Not only does "faith" not save you today, but it is actually bad for you, and it is dirty and sinful while tasting as sweet as junk food. And just as healthy eaters can retrain their appetites to actually crave what is healthy, so also you are commanded to repent of your faith and obey the faith that actuall does what is fair and just so that you might be saved. Do you perceive how your faith is worthless junk food yet?

The crying justice that is at hand is for you to belive the truth that God has intentionally made extremely scandalous and offensive to the flesh.

After having become an "adult" Jesus says you have to become as children and trust (believe) someone else more than yourself to save you.

How humbling is it for the queen of the south, a prominent leader in her nation, to come from the ends of the earth to hear saving truth from a forign king named Solomon?

She is about to condemn your soul at judgment as Jesus says.

And when we get to John 5 the religious people have this independent, make believe (i.e. Dirty faith) "personal relationship" with Moses as hough they believe him, and then they do not believe Jesus who is right in front of them. The crying justice that would save them is right in front of their face! Not in th writtings of Moses which have already been cannonised, and everyone excepts by tradition without any scandal or special faith, but here stands Jesus with scandalous and offensive truth that is not popular in the religious masses, that is now stock full of Justice which requires hart-purifying faith to believe, and costs you everything if you might actually believe and follow this "crazzy rabbi".

And then when you religious hypocrites read this passage you bypass and cut out all justice from this passage and tell people to believe something that is unoffensive and accepted at religious people everywhere, and instead of doing the justice that is right in front of you, and becoming like a child to believe the offensive truth that God is doing on the earth now, you tell them to 'go develop a personal relationship' with an imaginary god whome they have no real connection with, and they never become as the faith of a child and believe others to save their life...

10/13/15

 

 

The Desperation of Real Disciples

10/9/15

Calling her a dog...

Blind men

Etc.

 

Bbs: som: / BBS: Discipleship:

Personal guidance sp

"we are Moses' disciples" (but Jesus said that if they had believed Moses, they would have believed Him...) ...you who say, we would not have persecuted the prophets... (Mat 23)

 

It is always easier to believe your own relationships w your own imaginations about popular rightous people of the past.

 

 

How to Successfully Call up on Jesus' Name

~ May or June 2017; 8/11/17

 

He is Rich to all of those who call upon his name

 

there is a difference between calling upon Jesus's name, and taking his name in vain and smearing it upon your preconceived notion that you already know him.

 

successfully calling upon his name and gaining the richness of his generousness to save you from sin requires a blank slate of the identity behind the name that you do not know...

 

unlike the baby boomer adult learner who always Builds on his previous knowledge and is proud and foolish and fleshly and perverted and foolhardy

 

to be successful you need to call upon a name without a preconceived notion of the identity behind that name...

 

in addition to this, our idea of calling upon God usually equates to praying a sinner's prayer with apathy and complacency.

 

successfully calling upon the clean name includes not having your own preconceived notion of the identity behind that name, and also actually crying out with a loud voice for clean truth to overtake your life and replace your heretical false doctrines and perverted beliefs in evil counterfits for righteousness

 

like Jacob wrestled with the angel, and it says that he cried and wept and was heard...

 

this is why God does not seem to be rich when leaving American church people in absolute heresy and perverted sin, and this is why they are not being forgiven for the most part because they are taking his name in vain and they are apathetically requesting instead of crying out and calling upon the name.

 

almost none of these callings from church people are loud and fervent, not are they an all out commitment ready for martyrdom.

 

Are the Scriptures Able to Save You?

7/26/16

 

>>Scrip:

You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life but these are they that speak about me and you refuse to come to me

 

From a child you have known the Holy Scriptures which are able to make you wise unto salvation

 

Watch your doctrine closely because in doing so you will save both yourself and your hearers

 

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The Value of the Individual

6/4/16; 6/6/16; 6/12/16; 7/21/16; 11/3/16; 3/25/17; other date; 5/31/17; 10/15/17; many other dates; 3/5/18

Independent Salvation | The Value of the Individual

YAGS: value of individual

>> compare: personal guidance spirits

 

 

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Jos_22:10 WEB  When they came to the region about the Jordan, that is in the land of Canaan, the children of Reuben and the children of Gad and the half-tribe of Manasseh built there an altar by the Jordan, a great altar to look at.

Jos_22:10 An Altar by the Jordan And they came to Gilead of the Jordan, which is in the land of Canaan. And the children of Reuben, and the children of Gad, and the half-tribe of Manasseh built there an alter by the Jordan, a great altar to look at.

Jos_22:10  καὶ ἦλθον εἰς Γαλγαλα τοῦ Ιορδάνου, ἥ ἐστιν ἐν γῇ Χανααν, καὶ ᾠκοδόμησαν οἱ υἱοὶ Γαδ καὶ οἱ υἱοὶ Ρουβην καὶ τὸ ἥμισυ φυλῆς Μανασση ἐκεῖ βωμὸν ἐπὶ τοῦ Ιορδάνου, βωμὸν μέγαν τοῦ ἰδεῖν.

>> Sync: LOG | Dis > Value of Individual

 

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Act_14:21 CAB  And having preached the gospel to that city and having made many disciples, they returned to Lystra, and Iconium, and Antioch,

Act_14:21  Εὐαγγελισάμενοί τε τὴν πόλιν ἐκείνην καὶ μαθητεύσαντες ἱκανοὺς ὑπέστρεψαν εἰς τὴν Λύστραν καὶ |Aεις| ᾿Ικόνιον καὶ |Aεις| ᾿Αντιόχειαν,

Act_14:22 CAB strengthening [ἐπιστηρίζοντεςV-PAP-NPM] the souls [τὰς ψυχὰς] of the disciples, urging them [παρακαλοῦντεςV-PAP-NPM] ·to continue [ἐμμένεινV-PAN – be remaining (present tense)] in the faith, ·saying, "[καὶ ὅτι – and that: “]Through many tribulations [διὰ πολλῶν θλίψεων] we ·must [δεῖV-PAI-3S] · [(in) going into] enter into [εἰσελθεῖν V-2AAN εἰς PREP] ·the kingdom of [the] God [τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ]."

Act_14:22  ἐπιστηρίζοντεςV-PAP-NPM τὰς ψυχὰς τῶν μαθητῶν, παρακαλοῦντες ἐμμένειν τῇ πίστει, καὶ ὅτι διὰ πολλῶν θλίψεων δεῖ ἡμᾶς εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ.

Act_14:23 And having chosen elders for them in every church, and having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.

Act_14:23  χειροτονήσαντες δὲ αὐτοῖς TSBπρεσβυτέρους κατ᾿ ἐκκλησίαν |Aπρεσβυτερους|, προσευξάμενοι μετὰ νηστειῶν παρέθεντο αὐτοὺς τῷ Κυρίῳ εἰς ὃν πεπιστεύκασι.

>> Sync: SPI | LLO | Dis

 

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Rich bully is not allowed to go into the house of a poor person to get back his own money

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>>Scrip:

we must all appear before the Judgment seat - at some point this means you stand for yourself before God's judgment.

this directly affects the care and Urgent diligence that each of us must maintain in this life in the meantime.

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Jam_4:11, Jam_4:12 – there is one lawgiver

 

Prophets and Apostles Have Special Individual Value

7/25/17-7/26/17

The Value of Your Individual Spiritual Activity and initiative is especially emphasized when…

especially when you are a prophet like a prophet who prophesied about the coming of Josiah

or an Apostle like Paul who received his revelation directly from heaven

You cannot accuse Paul of “reigning as Kings” “without” himself…

 

Lev_22:2-3, etc. – the sacrifice of THE PEOPLE are considered holy, even to the leadership

Lev_22:15

 

Mat_23: no lords

Paul: not that we lord it over your faith

 

1Co_16:12 – Paul left it in Apollos’ jurisdiction if he could come or go and do this or that

>> TSK

 

1Ki_13:1-32 – An unnamed Prophet Who Was Killed By a Lion After Making a Mistake / Not listening to what God had individually/personally told him

>> Dis | GCA | SPI

 

9/30/16

>>Scrip:

Not that we lord over your faith…

They will each know me…

>> as soon as you get forgiveness of sins & the same spirit, you do not have to be taught. But as long as you live in sin, you have to be schooled on how to even get the right God.

 

 

The Importance of the Individual Has Been Righteously Increased in the New Covenant, But It has Been Heretically Exaggerated by Protestants

8/2/16

 

 

 

The Cheerful Giver

8/2/16

2Co_9:6 LB But this I say: he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.

2Co_9:6  τουτο δε ο σπειρων φειδομενως φειδομενως και θερισει και ο σπειρων επ ευλογιαις επ ευλογιαις και θερισει

2Co_9:7  Let each one give just as he decides in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.

2Co_9:7  εκαστος καθως Aπροηρηται TSBπροαιρειται τη καρδια μη εκ λυπης η εξ αναγκης ιλαρον γαρ δοτην αγαπα ο θεος

 

 

Only You Know The Hearts Of All Men

7/21/16

 

1Ki_8:38 WEB whatever prayer and supplication be made by any man, or by all your people Israel, who shall know every man the plague of his own heart, and spread forth his hands toward this house:

1Ki_8:38 CAB every prayer, every supplication whatever shall be made by any man, as they shall know each the plague of his heart, and shall spread abroad his hands to this house,

1Ki_8:38  πᾶσαν προσευχήν, πᾶσαν δέησιν, ἐὰν γένηται παντὶ ἀνθρώπῳ, ὡς ἂν γνῶσιν ἕκαστος ἁφὴν καρδίας αὐτοῦ καὶ διαπετάσῃ τὰς χεῖρας αὐτοῦ εἰς τὸν οἶκον τοῦτον,

1Ki_8:39 then hear in heaven, your dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and render to every man according to all his ways, whose heart you know;  (for you, even you only, know the hearts of all the children of men;)

1Ki_8:39 then shall You hearken from heaven, out of Your established dwelling place, and shall be merciful, and shall do, and recompense to every man according to his ways, as You shall know his heart, for You alone know the heart of all the children of men;

1Ki_8:39  καὶ σὺ εἰσακούσῃ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἐξ ἑτοίμου κατοικητηρίου σου καὶ ἵλεως ἔσῃ καὶ ποιήσεις καὶ δώσεις ἀνδρὶ κατὰ τὰς ὁδοὺς αὐτοῦ, καθὼς ἂν γνῷς τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ, ὅτι σὺ μονώτατος οἶδας τὴν καρδίαν πάντων υἱῶν ἀνθρώπων,

 

 

1Ki_8:38-39

TSK: 1Sa_16:7, 1Ch_28:9, 2Ch_6:30, Psa_11:4, Psa_11:5, Joh_2:25, Joh_21:17, Act_1:24, Heb_4:12, Heb_4:13, Rev_2:23

 

 

Thing we actually DON’T Want When Demanding Imitation and Biblical Discipleship

·        External/fleshly/unbelieving/unfaithful dead weight
(critical side note: notice the qualifiers that mark true “dead weight” -- i.e. ultimately, all you need is faith to be useful in God’s camp)

·        Crowds that follow a socially recognized “leader”, without sharing the truth & fiery revolution that is going on inside of him.

 

 

>>Scrip:

 

Heb_8:10-12 (esp. Heb_8:11) – those who have law on hearts/thorough-knowledge-minds (v 10) & obey God’s covenant (v. 9) by perceiving Him directly (v 11) and having sins forgiven (v 12) will all know God by perception (v 11).

 

This “each knowing God” phenomena will only occur with every member of “them” -- i.e. the group that fits this description…

>>Scrip:

Jesus says He will not show Himself to the world

And

The world does not know them because it did not know me

And

The worl does not know us because it did not know him

 

We command you by jc whom Paul preaches

each man will know me, from the least to the greatest

don't you know in yourselves that Anointed one is in you?

 

Moses: I wish they were all prophets

Jesus: you will get another comforter…it is profitable for you that I go away…

>> i.e. that they all be made like Jesus and john the Baptist

Paul: you can all prophesy

 

 

First to the Lord, Then to Apostles Through God’s Will

…; 12/12/15

2Co_8:5 and not as we hoped, but they [“the churches of Macedonia” (2Co_8:1)] first gave their own selves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God,

2Co_8:5  καὶ οὐ καθὼς ἠλπίσαμεν, ἀλλ᾿ ἑαυτοὺς ἔδωκαν πρῶτον τῷ Κυρίῳ καὶ ἡμῖν διὰ θελήματος Θεοῦ,

 

>> once you come to the truth, then there is a new glory in place

>> Jesus is the head of the assembly… he is the chief corner stone, and note: the leaders make up the “eyes and the ears” of his head…

 

This shows that there is a valid and moral, and monotheistic way for them to give themselves directly to Paul and the other apostles.

While most church people think that they’re doing this, they actually haven’t even gotten too first base where they’d be willing to give themselves to Paul at all.

And this is actually an example of superlative dedication.

Most real disciples can’t even do this.

Church people are not only failing and this, but they can’t even recognize Paul when he walks right in front of them!

This advanced display is what church people simply take for granted as though they’re already doing it! -- go back to kindergarten and learn the first principles of monotheism.

 

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Dis bbs

10/6/15

You have not lied to men, but to God/the Holy Spirit...

 

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Other date; 8/1/16

Mat_25: inasmuch as you did it to the least of these my brothers, you did it unto me

 

Jesus: Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting ME?

 

act5:3-4

 

We are the good fragrance...

 

Jesus is the glory of God (Heb1, ect.)

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The ones whom Jesus sent are the glory of Anointed One. (...)

 

Mat 25: whatever done to the least of these is done to Jesus

 

He who sancifies and them that are sancified are all of one

 

>> !! See: BBS: “Posibility Of Divine Inspiration”

 

I am the door... He who goes in by another way is a thief and robber....

 

Distinctions Between God and Man

2/8/17; 2/10/17; 6/15/17

 

>>Scrip:

Jacob to Rachel: Am I in the place of God?

 

Gen 50:19 WEB  Joseph said to them, "Don't be afraid, for am I in the place of God?

Gen 50:19 And Joseph said to them, “Do not fear, for I am God’s.

Gen 50:19  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Ιωσηφ Μὴ φοβεῖσθε· τοῦ γὰρ θεοῦ εἰμι ἐγώ.

 

>>Scrip:

Peter: I am a man

 

We must not say: “look, here is Anointed One in the desert” or “in an inner room”.

 

Herod was killed because he did not give glory to God

 

Galatians: God respects no man’s person

Jesus: only one is your teacher

Jesus: I do not receive glory from men

Peter: rise up, I am only a man

 

We do not Preach Ourselves

3/19/17; 3/20/17; 3/21/17

 

-- Under Construction --

 

>>Scrip:

 

All will know me

Vs.

their hearts are far from me, and they have not known my ways…

 

Moses: I wish all were prophets

Paul: that you may all prophesy…

 

>>Scrip:

Dan: many of wise killed to refine them

>> a real connection is needed to fulfill the truth, especially in the end times

>> how high will God be willing to bring His final remnant of truth as He gets ready to return?

 

The one but the but the take but the anointed the home and to them and gives it an to The

>>Scrip:

2Co_4:5

 

We do not preach the essence or personality or aspects of our physical, sold-based lives.

The only way we get into this as if our hope is true and we are ultimately joined with the godhead.

If we preached ourselves, it would be to the effect that we would stop others from getting prophecies, knowing truth, being spiritual, and connecting to the Father through the One Spirit Who is Holy.

 

Waiting for Believers to Believe

How patient to be when Waiting for people to believe you

5/12/16

 

Believe in God on Earth

Divine Mistakes

Waiting for Believers to Believe

 

Gen_37: Jacob did not believe Joseph’s dreams at first

 

Jesus & Mary & Joseph

 

Church did not trust Paul at first

 

 

 

Pillar Ground of the Truth

1Ti_3:15  but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know [εἰδῇς] how it is necessary ῶς δεῖ] to conduct [ἀναστρέφεσθαι] oneself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God [ἥτις ἐστὶν ἐκκλησία Θεοῦ ζῶντος], the pillar [στῦλος] and bulwark [ἑδραίωμα] of the truth [τῆς ἀληθείας].

1Ti_3:15  ἐὰν δὲ βραδύνω, ἵνα εἰδῇς πῶς δεῖ ἐν οἴκῳ Θεοῦ ἀναστρέφεσθαι, ἥτις ἐστὶν ἐκκλησία Θεοῦ ζῶντος, στῦλος καὶ ἑδραίωμα τῆς ἀληθείας.

 

Church Authority

TSK-Based: the pillar: Jer_1:18, Mat_16:18-19, Mat_18:17-20 (etc.), Rom_3:2, Gal_2:9

 

Forgiveness of Sins

Joh_20:21-23 

Joh_20:21 Therefore Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! Just as the Father has sent Me, I also send you."

Joh_20:21  εἶπεν οὖν αὐτοῖς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς πάλιν· εἰρήνη ὑμῖν· καθὼς ἀπέσταλκέ με ὁ πατήρ, κἀγὼ πέμπω ὑμᾶς.

Joh_20:22  And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.

Joh_20:22  καὶ τοῦτο εἰπὼν ἐνεφύσησε καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς· λάβετε Πνεῦμα ῞Αγιον·

Joh_20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained."

Joh_20:23  ἄν τινων ἀφῆτε τὰς ἁμαρτίας, ἀφίενται αὐτοῖς· ἄν τινων κρατῆτε, κεκράτηνται.

 

 

He Who Receives You Receives Me

>> discipleship bbs

“Mat_10:37-41 CAB  He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.  38  And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.  39  He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.  40  "He that receives you receives Me, and he that receives Me receives Him who sent Me.  41  He that receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward. And he that receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

 

The preceding context of Luke 16 is the commissioning of the seven the disciples to go out and preach truth and save people (i.e. make disciples).  In the middle of commissioning these 70 disciples, Jesus laments the damnation of those who do not receive their message

 

Luk_10:10-16 CAB  But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say,  11  'The very dust from your city which clings to us we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has drawn near to you.'  12  I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.  13  "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! Because if the miracles which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.  14  Nevertheless it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the judgment than for you.  15  And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades.  16  He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me."

 

Joh_6:42 CAB  And they were saying, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then does this Man say, 'I have come down from heaven'?"

 

Joh_5:39-40 CAB  You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about Me.  40  But you are unwilling to come to Me, so that you may have life.

 

Joh_5:44-47 CAB  How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and do not seek the glory which is from the only God?  45  Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, in whom you have hoped.  46  For if you believed Moses, you would have believed Me; for he wrote about Me.  47  But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

 

Joh_6:44-45 CAB  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me should draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.  45  It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be taught of God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to Me.

 

Assuming Non-Inspiration

>> LO!!!

>> recompile or reference any relevant content back in here…

 

 

Hearing Without Understanding

12/13/15

>> ROW??

 

Most church people are content to simply keep reading the Bible over and over and never understand it.

 

The problem is that this continual lack of understanding results in you being disqualified and rejected in the end.

 

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Mat_13:23 CAB  But the seed sown on the good ground is he who hears the word and *understands it*

If you continue to not understand the Bible, you are in danger of going to hell.

(comp. Mat_13:8, Mar_4:20, Luk_8:15; Mat_3:10; Mat_7:19; Joh_15:2)

 

If you keep hearing/reading the Bible without understanding it, you are not “good ground” / “a good tree”, and you will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

The Bible gave you a solution for understanding. If you ignore it, you deserve what is coming to you.

Heb: how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?

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Mat_13:23 CAB  But the seed sown on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty."

 

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire:

Mat_3:10; Mat_7:19; Joh_15:2

 

Jam: Hear and not a doer decieves himself…

 

 

 

Hears

 

 

 

Has my commands and obeys them

 

It is time to get discipled.

 

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Bbs: disc : Add: 1. another Jesus (2co 11); 2. walk according to the same spirit (2co 12)

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We would welcome the rich young ruler or Nicodemus into the church as a well-attested christian, but Jesus didn’t!

Our system does not accommodate when someone does not get it at first. Jesus and the Apostles dealt differently with “converts” than disciples (Simon)

 

 

“I’m Saved!”

- Don’t read the Bible

- Pray av. Of 7-15 min a day

 

 

- establishing in ourselves that we stand in desperate need, is one of the most important values I can communicate to you

 

They are going to ask:

- how is this going to help bring revival?

- What does this have to do with the power of God?

They will think:

- Hope for action and big things, is proof that the message is from God

- How can I believe God for big things?

 

Who’s Discipling You?

Whoever you are learning from, you are being discipled by

 

Journal Thoughts

 

Think: “if God wanted me to know something he would tell me himself ”

 

Discipleship awaits you; commitment is calling you by name.

 

The need for commitment

God has designed all of us to long to be totally committed to something with all our heart.  When we don’t meet that need, our conscience testifies against us.

Many people try to drowned that need with the vanities of this life:

- TV

- entertainment

- music

- empty relationships (not based on Jesus)

- Food

 

So in this way we try to avoid answering the call to commitment, but we trap ourselves in an endless effort of running from responsibility, and the guilt of not meeting it. 

 

Act_2:38

Why is it that American churches have so many uncommitted attenders?  Why do mega churchs “mega” in attendance but stand impoverished in commitment?

It is not that numbers are bad, because we have nothing even close to 3,000 souls added in one day as they did in the New Testament.  The problem is not numbers, but the shallow ideology of failing to call the masses to real discipleship.

Do you want numbers or do you want discipleship and your congregation?  Do you want both?  If so then you must faithfully prioritize discipleship and pray for numbers, as God is willing.

 

Revival or Discipleship?

Discipleship is needed before revival

The disciples were taught three years before Pentecost, showing that the base of instruction was of greater priority chronologically than Pentecost to God. 

So also it is necessary for us to get this down before we’re even close to being ready for anything big.

If we can’t honor God in our definition of a Christian, why should He continue to honor us with numbers that we mislabel as Christians and misinform concerning their eternity?

Have you heard of all the revivals that soon end up fizzling out?

If it cannot handle operating, then it is not worth starting.

What is God saying?  If you want to go further, then you need to store up in this area

 

Discipleship Examples

- John the Baptist had disciples

- Peter brought in 3000

- Paul, Annanias, Barnabas

- Paul: churches, Mark, Luke, Timothy, Titus

- “follow me is I follow Christ”: the discipled by me

- Aquila Priscilla: Apollos

- Philippe and Samaritans

 

 

Other points

- First Corinthians shows us that discipleship is not the shepherding movement.

- Jesus is the only way, so you Gotta follow Him if you wanna make it to heaven.

 

Good and bad Examples

Good:

The book of James, “works”

Learning and obeying: morally, ethically, and spiritually

Bad:

“I believe in god; I even go to church”

 

Cultural Misunderstandings Show who’s discipling you

“No body’s perfect”

- Distorted from__________, and ignorant of ________

- you wouldn’t need to use that argument all the time if you were not living in sin

- Our culture has taught us (discipled us) to go to live in sin and go to church thinking we are going to heaven

 

“If you got, it show it”

 

“God helps those who help themselves”

 

“We need to respect everyone’s opinion”

 

Fragmented Presumptuous Theology

“Don’t judge me…”

(Mis-applied from Mat 7, and totally ignorant of the rest of the verses, 1 Cor 4 & 5)

- You can always know a person’s not being very discipled by Jesus when this is their theme verse!

- Who is it you are trying to protect?

- If you were living right you would not need to hide behind that excuse

- How about: “Judge those in the church”

 

“Spirit of the Law”

 

 

The Indeed

(Joh_8:31)

Poor indeed (in spirit)

Widow indeed

Know truth, free indeed

Disciple indeed

 

- he gives the holy spirit to those who obey him

 

HosSp

direct result of REAL discipleship

 

minimum requirements

hard-core

 

REAL christian vs. a Convert

 

Teaching them to observe all commanded

 

 

 

Discipleship: learning, wisdom, holy spirit...

The counterfeit: shallow, sensual, soul-ish

 

 

The Right Goal

My goal is not to be Pentecostal

My goal is the glory and honor of God Almighty; to obey Him and know Him

 

I know demonized people who can express a “pentecostal” display

But if someone honors God, they radiate light even if they are sitting down in their seat

 

“On this one will I look… humble”

 

 

Corinthians were like some Pentecostal churches today:

But he didn’t say decrease longing for gifts, but increase. Instead he says do it right!

- Love

- Prophecy/exhortation is greater for the church if no interpretation

 

Self-expression is managed by, subordinate to, considering others first

- Tongues so others benefit

- spirits of prophets subject (on account of what? Order! – Why? Because of others!)

- If not loving others, don’t do it

- considering one another

 

 

 

Humility

Unless you walk this way, you won’t make it

- become as children

- are converted

- walk humbly

 

You status of Humility makes or breaks you in God’s eyes

 

Pro_25:14 MKJV  A man boasting himself in a false gift is like clouds and wind, but no rain.

Be slow; Count the Cost (Luk_14:25-33)

David said, "Bless the Lord, Oh, my soul" and danced without the baptism of the Holy spirit. We too dance, and are to be pitied if we confuse it as a proof of this Baptism.

 

Is it possible that there is a danger at times in thinking of what we call "Revival" as exciting and the disciplines of the Bible as, well, boring

- the bible reading, the fruit of the spirit,

 

Isa_8:16 - Seal up among Disciples

 

Some deeply compromised churches avoid excepting Jesus' high standard as requirements for salvation by claiming that there is a difference between being a believer and a disciple.

 

tongues: love, prophecy, faith, holiness

 

Personal groups have less restrictions than corporate worship

Prayer life ought to be way more extream than Sun morning

 

What does He look like?

- Holy

- Order

- Spirit of Sound mind

 

in 1867 when the movement established The National Camp Meeting Association for the Promotion of Christian Holiness with a notice that said: We are summoning, irrespective of denominational tie...those who feel themselves comparatively isolated in their profession of holiness…that all would realize together a Pentecostal baptism of the Holy Ghost....

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism]

 

COG

BEHAVIORAL TEMPERANCE

We will practice temperance in behavior and will abstain from activities and attitudes which are offensive to our fellowman or which lead to addiction or enslavement.

 

Baptism with the Holy Ghost subsequent to cleansing

Personal verses

1Ti_3:9 KJV  Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

 

Expurgated:

Intro

 

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A Discipleship Story

There was a father who owned and operated a metal production shop and desired to pass on his creative and successful legacy on to his children.

When his son was about ten years old, He decided to adopt a younger sickly boy from overseas that needed help to survive.

As the children grew, the adopted son took greater interest in his father’s metal work than the natural son.

He followed his father around as the father managed the shop, eager to learn as much as possible, and worked as much as the father would allow him.

 

Social Life

The adopted son did not get much of anywhere socially growing up because he had left his home country, and his peers considered him to foreign to fit in.  In addition to this, he spent most of his time learning and practicing his father’s work, so that he didn’t even have time to develop much of a “social life.”

 

Apathy

The adopted son became healthier and stronger than the natural one, especially because he was more active in his father’s work.  But this was barely even noticed by the natural son, because he figured that he was guaranteed no matter what to be entitled to inherit everything from his father, because he was the natural son. He would come and go as he pleased, and did not even pay attention to his adopted brother, nor his father’s work.

 

Ambition

While he was still young, the natural son began to act presumptuously, anticipating fulfilling his ambition of taking charge of the shop: he started taking it upon himself to tell the workers what to do, even though he did not understand the production process.

 

Inheritance

When the father was old and it was time to pass his responsibilities on to his sons, he made the adopted son owner and operator of his entire business, but the natural son was given no part in it.

The natural son had not only lacked commitment, but had also stolen money from his father’s business, but not did not know that anyone saw him until the father announced his decisions.

 

Remember these passages…

- a server will rule over a son who causes shame

- if God did not spare than natural branches neither will he spare you

- “we are Abraham’s children”

- “the sons of the kingdom will be cast out”

 

End

 

 

Rev_3:19 KJ2000  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

 

 

2Ki_2:1-6 KJ2000  And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.  2  And Elijah said unto Elisha, Tarry here, I pray you; for the LORD has sent me to Beth-el. And Elisha said unto him, As the LORD lives, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you. So they went down to Beth-el  4  And Elijah said unto him, Elisha, tarry here, I pray you; for the LORD has sent me to Jericho. And he said, As the LORD lives, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you. So they came to Jericho… 6  And Elijah said unto him, Tarry, I pray you, here; for the LORD has sent me to Jordan. And he said, As the LORD lives, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you. And they both went on. 9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for you, before I be taken away from you. And Elisha said, I pray you, let a double portion of your spirit be upon me.

 

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The REAL Disciple

Shorthand notes and compilations from very early disciple days

 

Created: 11/21/07; …; Modified: 7/9/09;

Original total editing time: 7384 minutes

Revision number: 71

 

- Pray

list

 

Write out revolutionary prayers

 

Bible-grub

 

Think:

- Tie in Grace that works, & hope it produces releasing you from under the law

- Contrasted with Muslim Disciplines

 

And all liars go to Hell: Rev_21:8

 

Calling Election Sure

2Pe_1:3-11 KJB  As his divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue:  4  Threw which are given to us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.  5  And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;  6  And to knowledge self-control; and to self-control patience; and to patience godliness;  7  And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness love.  8  Because if these things are in you, and abound, they will make you to be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  9  But he that lacks these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and has forgotten that he was washed from his old sins.  10  So instead brothers, be diligent to make your calling and election sure: because if you do these things you will never fall:  11  Because in this way you will be richly supplied an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

 

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2Co_6:17  Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you  18  and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.

(Also see: Idols vs. God 1Cor 10:20-21; Light/Dark 1Jn 1:5-7; Elijah vs. Baal 1King 18:21; Touch Nothing Unclean Isa 52:11/Ezk 20:34, 41)

 

Mat 7:15-23 KJV  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

G5368 φιλέω phileō fil-eh'-o From G5384; to be a friend to (fond of [an individual or an object]), that is, have affection for (denoting personal attachment, as a matter of sentiment or feeling; while G25 is wider, embracing especially the judgment and the deliberate assent of the will as a matter of principle, duty and propriety: the two thus stand related very much as G2309 and G1014, or as G2372 and G3563 respectively; the former being chiefly of the heart and the latter of the head); specifically to kiss (as a mark of tenderness): - kiss, love.

 

 

G331 ἀνάθεμα anathema an-ath'-em-ah From G394; a (religious) ban or (concretely) excommunicated (thing or person): - accursed, anathema, curse, X great.

 

G331

 

ἀνάθεμα

anáthema; gen. anathématos, neut. noun from anatíthēmi (G394), to place, lay up. A gift given by vow or in fulfillment of a promise, and given up or devoted to destruction for God's sake (Sept.: Num_21:1-3; Deu_13:16-18); therefore, given up to the curse and destruction, accursed (1Co_12:3; 1Co_16:22; Gal_1:8-9). In Rom_9:3, estrangement from Christ and His salvation. The word does not denote punishment intended as discipline but being given over or devoted to divine condemnation. It denotes an indissoluble vow. See also Act_23:14; Gal_1:9. Anáthema is not to be confused with anáthēma (G334), a votive offering or an offering not involving sacrifice, something consecrated in the temple, a gift, an offering (Luk_21:5).

Deriv.: anathematízō (G332), to declare anathema, to curse; katanáthema (G2652), an accursed thing.

Syn.: ará (G685), a malediction, cursing; katára (G2671), a curse.

Ant.: aínos (G136), praise; épainos (G1868), commendation; aínesis (G133), the act of praising; aretḗ (G703), virtue, praise; dóxa (G1391), glory, praise; húmnos (G5215), hymn, praise; eulogía (G2129), eulogy, speaking well of, blessing; euchḗ (G2171), vow, good wish.

 

 

Eph 2:1-3 WEB  You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins,  2  in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the powers of the air, the spirit who now works in the children of disobedience;  3  among whom we also all once lived in the lust of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

 

Rom 9:6-33 WEB  But it is not as though the word of God has come to nothing. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel.  7  Neither, because they are Abraham's seed, are they all children. But, "In Isaac will your seed be called."  8  That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.  9  For this is a word of promise, "At the appointed time I will come, and Sarah will have a son."  10  Not only so, but Rebecca also conceived by one, by our father Isaac.  11  For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls,  12  it was said to her, "The elder will serve the younger."  13  Even as it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."  14  What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? May it never be!  15  For he said to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."  16  So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy.  17  For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I caused you to be raised up, that I might show in you my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth."  18  So then, he has mercy on whom he desires, and he hardens whom he desires.  19  You will say then to me, "Why does he still find fault? For who withstands his will?"  20  But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?"  21  Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor?  22  What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath made for destruction,  23  and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,  24  us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles?  25  As he says also in Hosea, "I will call them 'my people,' which were not my people; And her 'beloved,' who was not beloved."  26  "It will be that in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' There they will be called 'children of the living God.'"  27  Isaiah cries concerning Israel, "If the number of the children of Israel are as the sand of the sea, It is the remnant who will be saved;  28  For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, Because the LORD will make a short work upon the earth."  29  As Isaiah has said before, "Unless the Lord of Hosts had left us a seed, We would have become like Sodom, And would have been made like Gomorrah."  30  What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, who didn't follow after righteousness, attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith;  31  but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, didn't arrive at the law of righteousness.  32  Why? Because they didn't seek it by faith, but as it were by works of the law. They stumbled over the stumbling stone;  33  even as it is written, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and a rock of offense; And no one who believes in him will be disappointed."

 

Rom 9:17-24 WEB  For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I caused you to be raised up, that I might show in you my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth."  18  So then, he has mercy on whom he desires, and he hardens whom he desires.  19  You will say then to me, "Why does he still find fault? For who withstands his will?"  20  But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?"  21  Or hasn't the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor?  22  What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath made for destruction,  23  and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,  24  us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles?

 

 

1Pe 2:9-11 KJV  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:  10  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.  11  Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

 

1Co 4:4 WEB  For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this, but he who judges me is the Lord.

 

Mat 7:13-23 KJB  Enter by the narrow gate4439 [πύλης (puls)]: because wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and there are many 4183 [πολλοί (poloi)] who go in by it:  14  Because narrow is the gate, and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are a few who find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  16  You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  17  Even so every good tree bears good fruit; but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  18  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree bear good fruit.  19  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.  20  So then, by their fruits you will know them.  21  Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter into the kingdom of the heavens; but he who does the will of my Father which is in the heavens.  22  Many 4183 [πολλοί (poloi)] will say to me in that day, “Lord, Lord, haven’t we prophesied in your name? And in your name cast out demons? And in your name done many powerful works?”  23  And then will I declare to them, “I never knew you: depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.”

 

G4183 πολύς, πολλός polus  polos pol-oos'

Including the forms from the alternate “pollos”; (singular) much (in any respect) or (plural) many; neuter (singular) as adverb largely; neuter (plural) as adverb or noun often, mostly, largely: - abundant, + altogether, common, + far (passed, spent), (+ be of a) great (age, deal, -ly, while), long, many, much, oft (-en [-times]), plenteous, sore, straitly. Compare G4118, G4119.

 

G4439 πύλη pulē poo'-lay

Apparently a primary word; a gate, that is, the leaf or wing of a folding entrance (literally or figuratively): - gate.

 

G4172 πόλις polis pol'-is

Probably from the same as G4171, or perhaps from G4183; a town (properly with walls, of greater or less size): - city.

 

2Co 5:10-11 KJB  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.  11  So knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

 

Psa 76:7 WEB  You, even you, are to be feared. Who can stand in your sight when you are angry?

 

 

Psa 90:11 WEB  Who knows the power of your anger, Your wrath according to the fear that is due to you?

 

Isa 33:14 WEB  The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling has seized the godless ones: Who among us can dwell with the devouring fire? who among us can dwell with everlasting burning?

 

Nah 1:5-6 KJ2000  The mountains quake before him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell in it.  6  Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

 

Mat 10:28 KJ2000  And fear not them who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

Heb 10:31 KJ2000  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

Jud 1:22-23 KJ2000  And on some have compassion, making a difference:  23  And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

 

Rev 21:8 KJ2000  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

 

 

 

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How to get Open Eyes

Luk 24:25-32 KJV  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:  26  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?  27  And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.  28  And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.  29  But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.  30  And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.  31  And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.  32  And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

 

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God is Fire

Deu 4:24 KJV-Based For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

Heb 12:29 KJV  For our God is a consuming fire.

Exo 19:18 KJV  And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. 24:17  And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

Rev 4:5 KJV  And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Describing Jesus it says…

Rev 1:12-16 KJV-Based  his eyes were as a flame of fire;  15  And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.  16  And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shinning in his strength.

 

Abrahamic Covenant   Gen 15:17-18  

Burning Bush   Exo 3:2

“Pillar of Fire”   4 Places- Exo. 13:21-22, 14:24, Num. 14:14, Neh. 9:12 & 19

Some Others   2Sam 22:9, 2Ch 7:1-3, Rev 20:9

 

- Is God in you? Isn’t God a “consuming fire?” How do you dare confidently answer “yes” if your life is cold?

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Joh 5:35 WEB [About John the Baptist…]

He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light.

 

Rev 3:15-16 WEB  "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot.  16  So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth.

 

Zeal

Psa 69:9 WEB  For the zeal of your house consumes me. The reproaches of those who reproach you have fallen on me.

Jn 2:17 NIV His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me." (After driving out the $ changers)

Rom 12:11  not lacking in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

 

· Not Lacking in it Rom 12:11, · Always Zealous/Right Zeal Gal 4:18, · “Phinehas” Num 25:5-13,

· Others: 1King 19:10, Pro 23:17, Tit 2:14

 

Isa 64:7 WEB  There is none who calls on your name, who stirs up himself to take hold of you

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Luk 14:25-35 KJB  And great crowds went with him and he turned and said to them,  26  “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, and even his very own soul, his life as well, he cannot be my disciple.  27  And whoever does not bear his cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.  28  Because which of you wanting to build a tower doesn't sit down first and count the cost if he has the means to finish?  29  That it doesn't happen after he has laid the foundation and is not able to finish that all who see it begin to mock him  30  saying, ‘This man began to build, and was not able to finish.’  31  Or what king going to engage another king in war doesn't sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand?  32  But if not, while the other is still a great way off he sends a delegation4242 and asks for conditions of peace.  33  So in the same way, everyone of you who does not forsake everything that he has cannot be my disciple.  34  Salt is good: but if the salt has lost its flavor how will it be seasoned?  35  It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but they cast it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

 

4242 - A "delegation," in Greek, "πρεσβειαν" which is made up of elders.

 

Mat 10:32-39 KJB  So any and everyone who confesses3670, (1722) me in front of men, I will also confess him in front of my Father who is in the heavens.  33  But whoever will deny me in front of men, I will also deny him in front of my Father who is in the heavens.  34  Don’t think that I came to send peace on earth: I have not come to send peace, but a sword.  35  Because I have come to set a man against his own father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter in law against her mother in law,  36  and a man's enemies will be those of his own household.  37  He that loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and he that loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me,  38  and he that does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.  39  He that finds his soul, his life, will lose it. But he that loses his soul, his life, for my sake will find it.

 

3670 – This speaks of “confessing together,” meaning, joining with Jesus in front of men

1722 – This unity “in” Jesus is multiplied by the use of the unrepresented word “εν 1722” (en).

Literally and functionally: “Whoever confesses together [i.e. with me], in me, in front of men”

 

Mar 8:38 KJB  So whoever will be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of man will also be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

 

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[from “Foundations” teaching]

 

Rom 9:27 WEB  Isaiah cries concerning Israel, "If the number of the children of Israel are as the sand of the sea, It is the remnant who will be saved; [See Isa 10:22]

 

Remember He says later:

Isa 64:7 WEB  There is none who calls on your name, who stirs up himself to take hold of you

 

[The remnant is specifically mentioned 16 times as a theme throughout Isaiah. Do you see that the remnant are the few who stir themselves up?]

 

Rom 11:5 WEB  Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

 

2Th 2:3 WEB  Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,

 

1Ti 4:1-2 WEB  But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons,  2  through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron;

 

Mat 24:12 WEB  Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love 26 [αγαπη] of many 4183 [πολλων; the greater part] will grow cold.

 

 

[Taken from “Connection” teaching]

 

Mat 8:19-23 WEB  A scribe came, and said to him, "Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go."  20  Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head."  21  Another of his disciples said to him, "Lord, allow me first to go and bury my father."  22  But Jesus said to him, "Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead."  23  When he got into a boat, his disciples followed him.

Pro 25:14 MKJV  A man boasting himself in a false gift is like clouds and wind, but no rain.

Be slow; Count the Cost (Lk 14:25-33)

 

G5046 τέλειος teleios tel'-i-os

From G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588) completeness: - of full age, man, perfect.

 

 

Eat flesh drink blood, Jn 6

 

 

Be ready, or get cut into pieces (Mat 24:40-51)

 

Few answer this call… Few will Make it!

Lk 13:23-24 WEB; also think Jn 12:39 “Could not believe…”

 

 

 

 

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Song 2:7 I charge you, daughters of Jerusalem, By the roes, and by the hinds of the field, That you don’t stir up, nor awaken love, *Until it so desire, (WEB-based, *that is “until it is ready.” Repeated in Song 3:5 & 8:4).

 

1Tim 5:1-2 Don't rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father; the younger men as brothers; 2  the elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. (KJV-Based)

 

 

Don’t ‘Go Beyond…’

1Thes 4:2-9  For you know what charge we gave you through the Lord Jesus.

3  For this is the will of God: your holiness,38 [or “sanctification or “purity”] that you abstain from fornication [sex before marriage] 4  that every one of you know how to possess his vessel in holiness38 and honor, 5  not in passionate lust, in the same way as the Gentiles who don't know God; 6  that no one go beyond5233 [or “take advantage of”] and defraud4122 his brother in this matter; because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as also we have forewarned you and testified. 7  For God has not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness38.  8  Therefore he who rejects this doesn't reject man, but God, who has also given unto us His Holy Spirit.  9  But concerning brotherly love… (WEB+KJV -Retranslated)

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22  Many will tell me in that day… 23  Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.'

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Mat 7:13-23 WEB  "Enter in by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter in by it.   14  How narrow is the gate, and restricted is the way that leads to life! Few are those who find it.

15  "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.   16  By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?   17  Even so, every good tree produces good fruit; but the corrupt tree produces evil fruit.   18  A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.   19  Every tree that doesn't grow good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire.   20  Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.

21  Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.   22  Many will tell me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?'   23  Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.'

 

 

 

1 Peter 4:18  And if the righteous is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear?

1 Pet 1:2,5, & 17-18 (Reassurance)

 

 

PHP 2:12 ...continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

 

2PE 1:10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, [11] and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

 

Rom 2:5-9 KJB  But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart, you are treasuring up for yourself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;  6  Who will repay every man according to his works:  7  To those who by patient endurance in doing well, seeking for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life:  8  But to those who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,  9  Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

 

 

 

 

 

NJ

Consider kindness and severity

 

Examples:

- living in sin (adictions)

- Loveing world (1Jn 5)

- Flirting

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Seek Greatness from God

- Whoever does and teaches = great

- returns to rewards at end "what reward do you have?"

- Keeps on: pray to Father in secret

- Prais from men more than prais from God

 

What are we saying? Go after greatness! (hall of faith)

those who seek honor, imortality and life grace, but others wrath

 

> We somehow think that it selfishly takes away from God's glory for us to go for greatness but...

- it is the Father's good pleasure

- Ask and recieve... joy full... bear fruit... Father glorifyed

- It is all one package

- Jesus commands us to be wise in seeking that exaltation: choose the least seat

- If you want to be greate, be humble like a child

 

Personal verses

1Ti 3:9 KJV  Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

 

 

Foundations

1/14/06 (+Word: Created); 11/22/07 (Word: Modified); 2/21/17 (recompiled, titles enhanced)

 

Foundational Intro

A. Mat_7:15-24; Luk_6:46-49 – So what is this foundation?

B. Eph_2:20 “foundation of apostles / prophets, Christ Jesus… chief cornerstone”

C. Not just any foundation (the right One) – Not Just acknowledging the right One, but being sold out for it

D. We hope to debunk False Cooncepts: –No Cheep foundation –No “skin-of-teeth” Salvation

     Hope to establish True Concepts: –Real Foundation –How to inspect

E. Show “Foundations Pics” folder

 

1. Importance the Right Foundation

 

Rom 11:16 KJV  For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

 

A. Remnant Mentality

Important because it’s rare

 

Ú To have an accurate and real appreciation for the importance of the right foundation, you have to realize its rareness

Ú Car collector Example

Ú Not talking about thinking you have the right foundation, but about HAVING the right one:

Ú It is important that you realize that this is urgent, especially because most miss it!

Ú Don’t take it for granted supposing that you have it

 

Rom 9:27 WEB  Isaiah cries concerning Israel, "If the number of the children of Israel are as the sand of the sea, It is the remnant who will be saved;

 

Rom 11:5 WEB  Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

 

2Th 2:3 WEB  Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,

 

1Ti 4:1-2 WEB  But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons,  2  through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron;

 

Mat 24:12 WEB  Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love 26 [αγαπη] of many 4183 [πολλων; the greater part] will grow cold.

 

Ú If you ever want to know what time it is prophetically, just look at God’s people

Ú As it was with the Jews, so it is now with the Gentiles

Ú People always nitrify out of adulterous hearts

Ú Most church goers are condemning themselves to Hell because they have never even begun the race toward Jesus.

 

Also see these verses:

2Thes 2:3, 5; 1Tim 4:1-3; 2Tim 4:3-4; 2Pe 2:2

 

 

B. Prophetic Examples

Important because it’s easy to miss

 

Ú Breathing seems all the more important when it is in danger of failing

 

Ú Self-generated christianity

 

Deu 18:20 KJV  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

 

Jer 14:14 KJV  Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

 

2Ti 3:13 WEB  But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

 

Ú Do you actually believe this:

Just because you can convince yourself of something, that does not mean it is true

 

and it happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart, [Refusing to obey the Bible]… The Lord will not pardon him, but then the anger of The Lord and his jealousy will smoke against that man, and all the curse that is written in this book shall lie on him, and The Lord will blot out his name from under the sky. The Lord will set him apart to evil…

(Deu 29:19-21 WEB)

 

Ú The vast majority of people who claim to hear from God, (as Scrooge would say) have nothing greater affecting them than the piece of cheese they had for dinner: most words are in fact whims

Ú I would say that 90% of people who miss the Lord do so because they are trying to make something happen

ÚSelf-gratifying spiritual experiences

Ú If you’re hearing things to gratify yourself, then who is it for anyway? (Like people who lust for “good worship” so they can get something out of it)

Ú Thinking, “If I don’t get things in prayer, I will not be spiritual”

Ú If you live your life presuming to hear from God, there’s a good chance you’ve got the wrong foundation

 

 

C. Foundational Direction

Important because it’s determines Direction

 

Ú They determine how the rest of your life is built

Ú You eat sleep breath think live, according to your beliefs about Jesus and the Universe

Which one are you founded on? A universe of dirt, or the holiness of God?

 

Ú Where ever you start determines were you end, unless you change your direction [Slide show]

 

Proverbs 4: 25-27 NKJV Let your eyes look straight ahead, And your eyelids look right before you. 26 Ponder the path of your feet, And let all your ways be established. 27 Do not turn to the right or the left; Remove your foot from evil..

 

Proverbs 14:12 “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death”

 

Ephesians 2:2 MKJV 2 …according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience

 

[Leaning tower]

 

Look at where Luther’s building is today…

-Tore out the book of James

-Put both James and Hebrews at the back labeled “wood hay and stubble”

-Let us wash our feet in the blood of the Pope

-“Burn the synagogues” quoted by Hitler during the holocaust

-Ended up persecuting the Anabaptists

-The greatest influence in the perversions of evangelicalism and wicked doctrines of alone faith

 

D. Important Because it can be Lost -- Foundation Switch

Ú Do we know Jesus? 

Ú Have we interacted with the living God as our Savior, or our own imaginations

Ú Or even still, a MIX

 

Gal 3:3-4 KJV  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?  4  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain1500. [Without cause]

 

Heb 12:14-17 KJV  Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:  15  Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;  16  Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  17  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

 

Ú Remember the root of the tree that tilted the shed?

Ú Without holiness no one sees Lord (no foundation)

Úfail of the grace of God”

      vs. 1Co 3:10 KJB “According to the grace of God… I have laid the foundation…”

Ú Root of bitterness springing up

Ú “…he found no place of repentance…” there comes a point when your rejected and it’s too late

 

The Cost the Right Foundation

Sub-title: How to inspect your foundation; Sub-sub-title: “Are you paying the cost?”

 

2Ti 2:19-22 WEB  However God's firm foundation stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are his," and, "Let every one who names the name of the Lord depart from unrighteousness."  20  Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of clay. Some are for honor, and some for dishonor.  21  If anyone therefore purges himself from these, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, and suitable for the master's use, prepared for every good work.  22  Flee from youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

 

 

 

 

-no salvation by the skin of your teeth

-What is the foundation made of

-forsake all

-love with everything

-converted as children

-take up cross

-Hate parents

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

 

Ú Examples:

-Johnsville house

-leaves in foundation

-put gated material, mortar, rock

àthere are counterfeited foundations –no other can truly be laid- just like there are counterfeit gospels

 

You can develop al kinds of theological theories about how salvation is free, but when it comes down to it Jesus said:

“Count the Cost!!!”

 

 

 

Lk. 14:33 So in the same way, whoever of you who does not forsake everything he has, cannot be My disciple.

Lk. 6:43 For a good tree does not produce bad fruit, nor does a bad tree produce good fruit.

Mat. 3:10 And now also the ax is laid at the root of the trees, so that every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Lk. 6:46 Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and don't do the things which I say?

Jn. 14:15 If you Love Me, keep my commands... 23 ...If anyone loves Me, he will obey my words... 24 He who does not Love me will not obey my words.

 

1Jn. 2:4 He who says, “I have come to know him,” but does not keep His commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him.

1Jn. 3:6-10 Whoever remains in Him does not continue to sin. Whoever continues to sin has not seen Him, or known Him.  7  Little children, don’t let anyone deceive you: he that does what is right is righteous, just as He is righteous.  8  He that continues to sin is of the devil; because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this reason the Son of God was revealed, that He might destroy the works of the devil.  9  Whoever is born of God does not continue to sin; for His seed remains in him: and he cannot go on sinning, because he is born of God.  10  In this the children of God and the children of the devil are revealed: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God

 

Luk 9:23-24 WEB  He said to all, "If anyone desires to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me.   24  For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever will lose his life for my sake, the same will save it.

 

Mat 10:38 WEB  He who doesn't take his cross and follow after me, isn't worthy of me.

 

3. Qualifications of the Right Foundation

Sub titled: “Don’t be disqualified”

 

2Co_13:5 WEB  Test your own selves, whether you are in the faith. Test your own selves. Or don't you know as to your own selves, that Jesus Christ is in you? -- unless indeed you are disqualified96. [αδοκιμοι96]

 

Ú Don’t be too offended and proud than to examine your foundation!

 

G96 ἀδόκιμος adokimos ad-ok'-ee-mos

From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.

 

Ú He’s not asking you to do anything that he’s not willing to do himself

 

1Co_9:27 WEB  but I beat my body and bring it into submission, lest by any means, after I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected96. [αδοκιμος96]

 

Gal_2:2 WEB  I went up by revelation, and I laid before them the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately before those who were respected, for fear that I might be running, or had run, in vain.2756

(“Became” unsaved, or was never there to begin with; Compare 2Pet 2:15; Phil 2:16)

 

1Co_15:14-15; 2Co_6:1; Gal_2:2; Phi_2:16; (1Th_2:1;) 1Th_3:5;

[empty: Mar_12:3; Luk_1:53; Luk_20:10; Luk_20:11; Act_4:25]

 

2Jo_1:8-9 WEB  Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.  9  Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ, doesn't have God…

 

4. Moving Past Just Having the Foundation

Sub titled: From Milk to Meat

 

1Co 3:10-15 KJB According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise master-builder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds upon it. But let every man be careful how he builds upon it. 11  For no one can lay any other foundation than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.  12  Now if anyone builds upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;  13  Every man's work shall be made known: for the day shall show it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.  14  If any man's work remains which he has built upon, he shall receive a reward.  15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

Ú Verse 11, Jesus Crist is not cheep, hypocritical… if you have him as a foundation you’ll be the same Ü

Ú Living stones (as Jesus is) vs. wood hay (1Pet 2:4-5 -will read later-)

(as He is so are we on earth)

Ú These stones ain’t rocks (heavenly city is precious)

Úprecious jasper”

Ú your admonition is don’t burn!

Ú “We get judged too; don’t puff humans up; Who are we anyway?” (1Cor 1:12; 3-5)

 

ÚWood hay Stubble: Bad materials: Unsaved church leaders used to try and build God’s Kingdom, all of whom will burn. The leader responsible will have wasted his work.

Ú They are cheep materials that look good at first because they have physical skills… But they burn!

Ú 1Co 15:33 Bad company

Ú(This Instance being contrasted with “That woman Jezebel- flagrant immorality”)

 

-way abused by evangelicals

-not primarily an individual

save self and hearers”

things pertaining to God”

-BUT applied to individual!

Be careful how you hear

Test everything

Don’t believe every spirit

Those who claim to be apostles but are not

Simple belives every word

 

A. Understand Theses Points

Ú “I feed you milk” (1Co_3:1-2), milk includes baptism (Heb 5:2 below) it says that Paul Baptized many Corinthians (Act 18:8)

 

Ú Repeating Kindergarten

 

Heb 5:11-14 KJB  we have many things to say being hard to describe, since you are hard of hearing.  12  For by now though you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again those first principles of the oracles of God; and have become as those who need milk, and not of solid food.  13  For every one that uses milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness: for he is a baby.  14  But solid food belongs to them that are of full age, those who by use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Heb 6:1-3 KJV  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  2  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  3  And this will we do, if God permit.

 

Joh 16:12-13 WEB  "I have yet many things to tell you, but you can't bear them now.   13  However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.

 

ÚTake note: The foundation that is worthy of anything, is one that you GROW upon

 

(going back to this verse) 1Pe 2:1-6 KJB  Therefore laying aside all wickedness, and all deceit, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speaking,  2  As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that you may grow by it:  3  If it is so that you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4  coming unto Him, a living stone, truly rejected by men but chosen by God, precious,  5  You also as living stones are built up, a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.  6  by which it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion a chief corner stone, chosen, precious” and, “he that believes on Him shall not be put to shame.”

 

Ú Do you see:   Milk ÙÚ Foundation

 

1Co 3:1-2 KJV  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.  2  I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

 

1Pe 1:7 WEB  that the proof of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes even though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ --

but see previous verse:

1Pe 1:6 WEB  you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been put to grief in various trials,

 

Measurable Goals

>> See & Combine with the version below!!!

Other dates (2003-2011 -- See: Greatness > MISSION, VISION, STRATEGY); 3/7/17 (recompiled)

 

(Think of how they relate to the "Mission")

These goals being more long term, gradually introduced, and primarily so to the most serious students of Jesus

To have every Disciple Keep Acts 2:42, such as…

A. Why an "hour"? Act 3:1, Mt. 26:40-41 / Mk 14:27 & 37-38, Act 1:14, 6:4, 10:30

(This is not a law, but a starting point based on Biblical ideas and attitudes)

Some Biblical themes relating to this Are: going to "The House of Prayer" (in Jerusalem) for "The Hour of Prayer" & having "Songs of Assents" on the way.

B. If you want to be a man or woman of GOD and "shake nations" then you’ll be

self / God constrained to do more than the average church person is doing.

C. Although there is no Biblical support for praying less than an hour/ day, it may be necessary to start off with at least 30 min/ day because of weakness.

C. Do you want to be like Abraham, Moses, & John the Baptist…?

Ex. …everyone else is going out to eat, but you will stay back and pray.

A. By now your connected with God, so you want to connect others to Him

(See Heb 10:24-25)

?B. Go to Church and get around the right people that specifically push you to Jesus

(Self ó God, Goes back to the vision to have God’s favor)

A. Committed to not pursue romantic relationships until marriage.

(See "No Dating Scriptures" Bible Study)

B. Not to be entertained by anything bad, "No bad thing before my eyes"

(See Psalms 101:2-5)

 

 

Truth Sunday School  Measurable Goals:

Other dates (2003-2011 -- See: Greatness > MISSION, VISION, STRATEGY); 3/7/17 (recompiled)

Þ We want to have everyone in this Sunday School Acts 2:42 compliant…

(Think: How do they relate to the mission?):

 

 

A. Why an hour? Mt. 26:40-41 / *Mk 14:27 & 37-38,

      Different Times of Day- *Act 1:14Þ2:1Þ2:15, 3:1, 10:30, 6:4

       3 Times Of Prayer- (for Jews) Dan 6:10, *Ps 55:17

B. At least pray some in the morning, (this means that you have to get up earlier)

      The Morning- Ps. 5:2-3, *55:17, 88:13, Mk 1:35

       Think: “First Fruits”- of the day, Exo 23:15-19, 34:26, Lev 23:10, Neh 10:35, Pro 3:9, Eze 44:30

C. If you want to be a man/woman of God and ‘shake nations’ then you’ll be

     self/God constrained to do more than what everyone else is doing.

D. Do you want to be like Abraham, Moses, & John the Baptist…?

     Then Þ Ex. …everyone else is going out to eat, but you will stay back and pray.

      (Not promoting introversion and antisocial / anti-rejoicing behavior toward crowds ß)

 

A. Self Û Others. By now your connected with God, so you want to connect others to Him

    (See Heb 10:24-25)

B. Go to Church and get around the right people that specifically push you to Jesus

 

Self Û God. Goes back to the vision to have God’s favor/Grace (Rom 6:14)

Under The Law- Rom 3:19-20, Gal 3:23, 4:3-5, Rom 7:14-8:4 Gal *5:15

The Good Law- Rom 8:1-4, 1Cor 9:21, Jas 2:8, & 10-13

 

A. Committed to not pursue romantic relationships until marriage.

     (See ‘Don’t Flirt’ list)

B. Not to watch anything bad, ‘No bad thing before eyes’

     (See *Palms 101:2-5, *Is 33:14-17, Jas 1:27, Act 17:16)

 

 

Once Saved Always Lost

7/4/02* (Due); 3/13/17 (recompiled; retitled)

[* Original title: Word Devour 2 - “Once Saved Always Saved”]

 

Verses and Reference

Words to define in bold

Jam 5:20  Let him know,1097 that3754 he which converts1994 the sinner268 from1537 the error4106 of his846 way3598 shall save4982 a soul5590 from1537 death,2288 and2532 shall hide2572 a multitude4128 of sins.266

 

5 Words:

 

Converts 1994– Greek ἐπιστρέφω epistrepho¯ ep-ee-stref'-o

From G1909 and G4762; to revert (literally, figuratively or morally): - come (go) again, convert, (re-) turn (about, again).

Sinner 268– Greek ἁμαρτωλός hamarto¯los ham-ar-to-los'

From G264; sinful, that is, a sinner: - sinful, sinner.

Error 4106– Greek πλάνη plane¯ plan'-ay

Feminine of G4108 (as abstraction); objectively fraudulence; subjectively a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.

Save 4982– Greek σώζω so¯zo¯ sode'-zo

From a primary word σῶς so¯s¯ (contraction for the obsolete σάος saos, “safe”); to save, that is, deliver or protect (literally or figuratively): - heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

Death 2288– Greek θάνατος thanatos than'-at-os

From G2348; (properly an adjective used as a noun) death (literally or figuratively): - X deadly, (be . . .) death.

 

 

Author / Date

In all extreme possibility, the book could have been written by any of the 4 people named “James” in the BIBLE. There was 1. James the son of Alphaeus who was called ‘the less’ or ‘the younger.’ He was one the Apostles, ( Mt. 10:3). 

2. There was James who was the father of one of the disciples named Judas, (Lk. 6:16).  3. There was also a James who was the half brother of Jesus, and he was called “the just,” (Mt.13:55).  5. There was James son of Zebedee, the brother of John who was the most Jesusified. He was one of the three main apostles that Jesus trusted a lot.

I tend to think it was the 5th because Jesus approved of him so much, but it also could have been the 3rd because he was the one who was mentioned after the main James was mardered, and was a big Church leader in Acts, (also called the “pillar”).

 

Origonal Audience:

The time line of this book is uncertain so it hard to pin point at which time James was writing this epistle.   A lot of scholars think that it was written earlier because of some wording used but nothing much that is definite.  If it was written early like they think, then it would have been to the new  formed church.  We do know that the book was written to Jewish minded people because of its content.  James has been called the most Jewish book in The whole New Testament.  The people who received the letter were also probably undergoing

 

Immediate Context:

This verse is about the state of the salvation of a soul, and is talked about right after James was just talking about physical healing. John Wesley mentioned how much more important it was to talk about a sole being saved right after talking about physical healing.

It is a sporadic tag on to the end of an in-depth explanation on healing.  Here is all this about healing and by the way, you should know how important it is to safe guard people from straying from the Truth.

 

Personal Application:

This verse is one of the kickers that so clearly debunks the errors of the “once saved always save” mentality.  For me this was important because if I was going to give up such a sacred declaration, (having come from Baptist Churches all of my life), it had better have been in the Bible!  It turned out as I kept reading the Bible for myself, that this was only one of many such clear scriptures that instill a much needed Godly fear of being cut off in the life stile of sin.  In all this I do not deny that we need to have confidence in the surety of our salvation, but I think I’ll do that  Biblically with fear and trembling (see below).

 

Calvinisticly Abused Scriptures

In other words: Scriptures that Baptists might sight to prove “Once saved always saved”

 

Joh 10:28 

And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand.

Joh 10:29 

My Father who gave them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

 

This is very comforting but, for the sake of this topic:

It is usually overlooked by Baptists that He never said that you could not walk out of His hand. No one will come along and snatch you, but you have feet that could step out of His protecting hands.

 

Rom 11:29  For the free gifts and calling of God are without repentance (they are irrevocable).

 

This is good, but Paul is talking about a people that will still mostly go to hell.  Weather or not they are the chosen people, (and they are), the majority will still be condemned.

*It is important to note that “O.S.A.S.” (Once saved always saved) relies subconsciously upon predestination to even egzist.  In Truth, the Bible is not about “Once saved always saved,” but it is about “Once predestined always predestined.” Instead of focusing on the temporal state of a soul, if one is predestined before time, then the end state, (or location), of a soul is what is established by God’s Grace.  If this does not make since, it would not surprise me because it has taken me about 5 different Sunday School Classes to explain. Also, it is easier to talk about person to person rather than this, a one sided conversation.

 

Phi 1:6 

being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ,

 

Getting back to predestination, this shows that though Judis was “saved” in some since beings that he ‘shared in their ministry,’ and performed miracles and so on, but God had not started a work in him from the foundations of the world. –This is the work that matters, that is manifested at God’s appointed time.  This is only one of many examples. We had better pray and hope and make sure, (with all eagerness and fear), that it was God who begun the good work in us lest we fall away. Remember Heb 6 (see below).

 

1Pe 1:5  by the power of God, having been kept through faith to a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time;

 

Natural question: If some one looses that faith how could it keep them?  I’m not being irrelevant or ridicules, but people that hold to the error usually really do not see how obviously off it is.

 *It is important to note that not all Baptists are severely messed up in this area, but as the religion of our age among all denominations works, most of them are. (Other denominations are usually proportionally messed up in different areas).

 

Armenian / Free will  Scriptures

 In other words: These are contrary to things like ‘irresistible grace’ and ‘Once saved always saved’ .

 

Of course:

Jam 5:20  Let him know,1097 that3754 he which converts1994 the sinner268 from1537 the error4106 of his846 way3598 shall save4982 a soul5590 from1537 death,2288 and2532 shall hide2572 a multitude4128 of sins.266

 

Heb 2:1  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should Fall away.

 

See not after Heb. 10 ref

Heb 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,

Heb 6:5  and have tasted the good Word of God and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6  and who have fallen away; it is impossible, I say, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify the Son of God afresh to themselves and put Him to an open shame.

 

Once was saved, but then completely fell away, (not to be confused with Jam 5:20: “errer” or “drifting away.”)

 

Heb 10:26 

For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27  but a certain fearful looking for judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Heb 10:28  He who despised Moses' Law died without mercy on the word of two or three witnesses.

Heb 10:29  Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy of punishment, the one who has trampled the Son of God, and who has counted the blood of the covenant with which he was sanctified an unholy thing, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?

Heb 10:30  For we know Him who has said, "Vengeance belongs to Me, I will repay, says the Lord." And again, "The Lord shall judge His people."

 

Is it to obvious to note that He is warning Christians. “We” includes himself.

 

For by whom anyone has been overcome, even to this one he has been enslaved.

2Pe 2:20  For if they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the full knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and are again entangled, they have been overcome by these, their last things are worse than the first.

2Pe 2:21  For it would have been better for them not to have fully known the way of righteousness, than fully knowing it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.

2Pe 2:22  But the word of the true proverb has happened to them: The dog turning to his own vomit; and, The washed sow to wallowing in the mire.

 

I do speak the Truth of what I’ve seen in the spiritual realm: Most people that fall away never were. In other words, people that fall away were never really connected with Jesus in the first place, despite how zealous or excited they seamed.  Sincerity has nothing to do with it despite our human sympathies.

 

2Pe 1:10 

Therefore, brothers, rather be diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you do these things, you shall never fall.

 

We do not automatically know that we are predestined just because we answered an alter call.  Logically, we might fall if we do not ‘do these things.’

 

Another important Verse:

 

Phi 2:12  Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, cultivate your own salvation with fear and trembling.

 

(Paul practiced this: 1Cor 2:3 & 2Cor7:15)

 

The worst thing about the error is that it nearly always dissolves this essential fear.  Without it we may fall and many will continue to think even more that they know Jesus when they don’t.

 

2/8/19

Retitled

Saving Discipleship