Disciple Notes
Notes by TC Disciples
8/10/24
These are notes that TC Disciples have taken, and they are being preserved here for historical purposes to see the original versions of what they wrote at the moment they composed a teaching or writing before it was refined and fully incorporated into their various proper places and organizations.
Conference Notes
It's our position to embrace our own execution willingly
We do not request to be dismissed from execution
Jesus does not substitute our need to sacrifice and die for
sin
If he was going to substitute for you
dying then he wouldn't tell you to take up your cross
Before coming to truth we need to
die to sin, and after coming to truth we still need to die to sin
Jesus is the only one who can show with clean blood in order
to satisfy God and appease him over sin
We can die for our sins and that can abate God's wrath
against us only, but we can't appease how sentiments towards us after we've
been destroyed. There is no inherent redemption for that
We hate ourselves in this life (i.e. not fond of ourselves)
because of it's participation with sin
Our bodies were created in the image/icon and likeness of
God
1Cor 6
The Body Matters
Because...
-It wasn't made for prostitution but for the Lord
-God will raise up the body
-You can't join with the body of a prostitute and the Lord
-Because it's the temple of the Holy Spirit
-You were bought with a price
The Body is absolutely central to why God loves us!
He has obligated and indebted himself to love us because of
our body. This applies to all the human race.
The ultimate display of God's love towards us is because of
our body
The difference between us and other creatures is our body,
which includes our logical human brain (it's not because we have a soul, and not even because we have a spirit)
Sacrifice and offering you have not desired, but a body you
have prepared for me
And that body was prepared so that it could die
The Lord did all he did, all the way to hell and back, to
raise up our bodies to pull them out of the dirt and garbage can and to put it
back together
God is so dead set on the human body that he made his own
self a human body so that he could ultimately raise our bodies from the dead
If you ignore the body then in the end you will not be loved
by God once the body is taken away
If you want to believe that God loves you beyond your body
(like your soul and spirit and such) then you need to think in the context and
terms of predestination, which is very selective and exclusive, and this
doesn't apply to all people
In what sense does God really find our souls attractive?
Or at what point does he love our souls?
Inasmuch as our souls conform to a logical brain, which
comes first from our bodies
When we make our souls dominated by logic then God gets head
over heels for it
Hence it says that Jesus grew in favor with God and man (he
soul was growing into more and more logic)
By submitting our soul to a logical brain then we conform
our souls to becoming a rational being, and we too can increase in favor with
God and man
What is your body?
It is transient, considering that our bodies are made up of
crumbs that renew and morph and adapt and change over
time. Your body composition can be very different a few years later.
So what is the body?
Your body is a design, a template
Good wrote the Bible and he also wrote out DNA
There are copies and textual variations of the Bible, and
likewise our body has copies and variations of itself
The design is still inspired, and you can work hard to find
the original
What we do know about the consistency/unchangingness
of the body is that our brains are logical
Our brain is telling us something about how God wants us to
be
The more Eve becomes a helpmate and compatible with Adam,
the more attractive she is
And God cannot resist a logical soul, cuz
that's who he is.
So God's love doesn't stop with the body. But it does start
with the body.
To be thrown into hell and the 2nd death is to be reduced from all the benefits of sharing with God's icon image and likeness
8/10/25
5:17 PM
Conference Notes
Question about Greediness
The sin is not just to prosper (pleon)
But to hold on to the prospering (pleon-nexia)
It's a mandatory thing to seek to work hard and grow and increase and prosper and build the human race, etc. To increase is a fundamental mandatory requirement from the Creator
This is consistent from the old testament to the new testament
Jesus gave a parable about a merchant seeking fine pearls!
The sin is where you HOLD ON to that success FOR YOURSELF
Whatever you "pile up" is not for yourself; it's for other people if you are righteous
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What falls under foolish talking/ jesting?
The Ephesians Project BBS... To be continued
Btw, there do exist humors in the Bible, but they are for a good/nourishing purpose
Ex
Elijah mocking the prophets of Baal
Jesus saying things like
Beam in someone's eye
Straining a gnat and swallowing a camel
What did you go out in the wilderness to see- a reed shaken by the wind? Someone in soft and fine clothing?
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Disciple-Notes.htm#SELFISHNESS
Phil 2:1-4
Empty glory= unlawful reputation for yourself
Ron 12:3
It's not bad to exist at oneself
It's not bad to have self reference
It's bad to have too much of yourself
One of the problems of selfishness is the orientation of yourself and even the concept of yourself
How are you building up the concept of yourself?
The narrative/stories that you tell yourself about yourself is illusionary
Unless you're telling yourself facts and things that have been confirmed by the Truth
Ex Oh I could tell she was angry with me by the way she looked at me
Ex That just felt so awkward
You create akwardness by
Ex I just feel like everyone is staring at me and watching for me to mess up
That's ego, and a self created story
Ex People are just analyzing everything about me
Psychology calls that fictional audience
A lot of your relationship conflicts don't exist
Your feelings that things will never change don't exist and they are only there cuz you keep telling yourself that
Self created story telling is a perspective, NOT an account of what was there
A lot of your clashes are just story telling. Your telling a story instead of reporting an event
Your self concept and your social concept...What really matters in these constructs?
When you're telling a story you're trying to resolve, 'where do I fit in?'. And it's exaggerated. It's a way to find value for yourself.
Some get caught up in the story telling and create vain drama
Some escalate the relationship conflict because it's not real
Remember you're a nobody. You're only who and what God says you are in the world
Who did God say Noah was in the world? A teacher of righteousness
But what if someone said Noah was not smearing the bitumen on the ark well
It doesn't really matter. It's a self created fictional story that doesn't matter.
What actually happens morally is what will exist after you erase your or someone else's memory.
Isa 14:9-12
Have you become as weak as us? This is reality for celebrities and vain glory as a whole
If you have a wrong concept of yourself then following truth is going to be very rocky for you. Cuz you're going to find that you need to back track so often after trying to move forward.
Ex you seek to pray and make progress but then you go away and run into being proud socially, and then you have to go back in prayer and reassess ... Why repeated issues?
Cuz you are holding on to a false story of who you are
Don't hold on to a false narrative about yourself
How to resolve: I'm not really anyone. I'm a nobody. Unless and until God says something otherwise.
You need to keep yourself empty of a concept of who you are until God fills you up with a proven metric of faith
Real faith is without inconsistency, and when you're not sinning, and when you're being light and true
Disciple-Notes.htm#SELFISHNESS
Egocentrism - when you're thinking about yourself in a false way when you're supposed to be thinking about the value of other
Selfishness - an attitude with actions.
When you're thinking of yourself more highly then you ought to, and you're taking actions that prioritize yourself
An anecdote to selfishness- looking out for other people's interest
Ultimately for the purpose of saving them
Phil 2:2-4
If you're struggling from egocentrism (i.e. seeing the world from your own perspective with yourself in the middle of the world) then pop that bubble by seeing the world from other people's perspective
Being deeply moved by someone else's value
Think about how they're thinking and where they're coming from so that you can enter into their knowledge and pull them towards truth
Ever since the existence of the baby boomers, especially, we have been plagued with very strong strongholds of egocentrism. It has been very challenging for our race to not conceive of the world with ourselves at the forefront. We desperately need to break free from this.
Antidote:
Phil 2:5 let this mind be in you which also was in Anointed One
Disciple
8:43 PM
Thanks for the notes!
5:08 PM
So there could be a question mark even though God said Job was perfect, etc to where the devil still had a reason to trouble him?
6:03 PM
Liking people in heaven after they've been perfected -This is not a biblical or logical train of thought.
Two people can't both be saved AND you smell bad to each other
Either both of you are lost, or one of you is going to hell.
The real righteous assembly looks like Anointed One and smells like Anointed One NOW
If righteous people smell bad to you now it's because you are dying and in a direction in your way to hell. If people smell bad to you and you don't want to hang out with them it's because they are either 1) unrighteous or 2) you are unrighteous and on your way to hell
In the Bible you smell the same to God, and to those being saved, and to those perishing
You're not allowed to abominate the sanctity of a real believer by not liking them
So Be Positive Towards Obeyers
Romans 13:8 we owe each other love
Galatians - through love slave-serve one another
1Pe 3:13-14 KJV
And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled
Still Have Fears of Your Positivity Being Abused?
If you're afraid of being walked over, it's because you are not being a virtue solution provider
Give truth to others, including conviction of necessary and if you are spiritual (Galatians 6:1)
Conviction is any insightfulness to speak words of convicting, convincing proof that raises moral awareness of liability, guilt, and truth
What do you do if you are not being spiritual?
Maybe you're not spiritual enough to give over a moral answer?
Can I speak ANY words that prove a moral issue?
If not then maybe you can at least have an inquiring conversation with the other person and maybe they can give you an answer to your concerns. Maybe they can convict you
And/or you can repent and change yourself
If you can't convict them then you are in no better situation than them
Don't say, 'oh I just can't forget and let that go what so-in-so did. They just can't be allowed to get away with that!'
If you don't stop holding on to that attitude/way of thinking then you will destroy yourself
If people do something wrong then you should have the backbone of integrity to prove that there is a moral issue at hand, WITHOUT wrath or anger or anything like that
Remember how even God talked to murderous Cain, 'is it right that you be the way you are?' Look at how temperate and self controlled and logical God was towards a dark filled murderer!
Remember to Talk Some
Sanity Into Yourself
Example
Psalm 42:5 (KJV): "Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God."
Psalm 43:5 (KJV): "Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God."
So Pray Until...!
Sweat it out until you've died to sin
And you know you have successfully died to sin when you are loving people enough to have answers for them
Enter into the agony of Anointed One and pray hard against the contradictions you feel in and around you
Toss-n-turn over the need to have spiritualness in your life that overturns all the evil you see/hear/feel/face
If we sin and have unconquered fleshiness then we are in danger of the Devil having leverage to go back up into heaven with a prosecution case
Surrender to the truth and be vulnerable to perfection
Our aim is perfection
And perfection requires sacrifice
The two witnesses have not been officially revealed yet
What we at least know that we are working on is 'preparing the way for those preparing the way'. We are doing the work of the 2 witnesses to get ready for the 2 witnesses
Preparing a truth proclamation that the Bride could be perfect one day, and we are seeking to gather ammunition and a supply of truth for her to win and not falter when she is shaken and purged
The Assembly Needs to
Go Thru a Trial
The assembly needs to go thru a trial. And that trial will cause 5 to fail and 5 to win.
If you logically embrace crucifixion willingly ahead of time then you get to be apart of the wakeup call that happens later to the wise & foolish virgins, and the call to 'come out from among her my people'. And a mystery is who gets to even be apart of the one who hears the voice of the bridegroom and the friend of the groom and the voice calling out in the wilderness?
Elijah the restorer wakes them up. And who will be a type of John the Baptist? John the Baptist takes care of the Bride. The 10 virgins represent the fundamental number of an Assembly (I.e. enough people to build and assembly). This doesn't mean that there are not apostles and those taking care of the assembly, like the friend of the bridegroom (the restorer of Israel).
What Constitutes
Needing to Go to Your Brother?
Well, the results is that you need to agree on everything
If this feels out of reach then it is only because you are not doing enough prayer/zeal/virtue/work on your end.
Feeling frustrated at someone without being able to convict them is the hypocrisy of your own flesh
You are in a fight between life and death
Perfect unity is within reach if you will just be spiritual and responsible to do what God is telling you to do. Think right and do enough work on your end so that when you come to talk to your brother or sister then it is not nearly as much of a problem (in yourself) by the time you get to them.
We need optimized communication by doing sufficient leg work on our own end.
Don't be lazy!
4/6/25…4/11/25
Positivity conquers your issues
What if one of the most powerful potent immediate things you can easily do to conquer almost all sin was simply to be more positive?
Sounds to good to be true? That temptation to not believe that it's that easy is probably because the positivity required is something that the flesh does not want to be positive into.
Is this being positive toward God? Yes, but not the way you think. Because your flesh does not want to do this positivity. That effective, potent positivity is towards God on earth, NOT your fantasy of god in heaven. Your flesh is in total rebellion against that positivity.
Look at all the things you struggle with right now...A gigantic amount of it is tied into simply being positive towards the right people (in the right way without inconsistent hypocrisy).
So the next questions..
How do we seriously love and re love each other? How do we help save each other through longing to spend eternity with each other? We can be consistent and start right now, with the inspired saving Truth we communicate and reciprocate into each other. We can connect to each other's truest identity and inspiration through worshipping the same clean God.
Church people don't live in intentional communities because they really don't want to be around each other that much. And then they have the absurdity to think that they are going to happily spend eternity with these people! That is NOT the way Paul thought of the righteous assembly
If you want the benefits of biblical unity then you've got to pay the price to be in Covenant with true people
Romans 1 - Paul longs to be around them in order to give them something favorable out of himself. This is one of his motivations.
When you really love people then there is this deep desire to see more and more establishment and down standing and firmness of others in the good arrangement of the Truth. John's greatest joy was to see his children walking in the truth.
Do you believe that you can give something true & valuable to others? If you believe that you can give over righteousness to others then you will be more eager to be around them.
Your flesh, even if it meant saving itself from burning in hell forever, it just won't put a smile on its face towards the right thing and towards the right people.
A psychologist once said that progress facilitates brain growth. But if that progress is gained through dishonesty/a lie then it's going to be a long path to go back and undo the warpness that has happened from your brain having developed through the wrong pathways
You're a wolf when you are struggling to be positive towards the right person because you exploit something you are supposed to be protecting. When you live around each other you become acquainted with privileged information, which you are NOT to cash in on when it hurts them the worst. You are to use privileged information for the best interests of others.
Mical towards David - You want what you don't have, but then when you achieve it you take it for granted. Familiarity breeds contempt.
Why is it so hard to be positive?
How to crucify the fear of being taken advantage of if you just be positive towards people even though they are hurting you?
The puzzle piece that you're missing is "reciprocate and supply". You're supposed to be giving virtue to them. You are afraid because you have not established giving over to the other the virtue that you yourself owe them. If you give them what you're supposed to give them then eventually it will pan out in the end. They will either respond and be changed, or they will become like Judas (whom truth purified out).
If you're afraid then it's because you are not being a virtue solution provider.
Jesus knew of Judas being a thief and such, and he was able to patiently and virtuously convict, and convict, and convict him... And in the end Judas couldn't take it anymore and he killed himself and he is now dead.
Romans 12, 1Cor 12, Eph 4 - The Lord has arranged each member in the body as he has chosen. Each body part is going to have an advantage such as perspectives, perceptions, aptitudes, access to various virtues, etc
You do not struggle to forgive people because you have more knowledge than a child and thus you are able to hold people more accountable. You struggle with forgiving people because you are being fooled (and are being a fool). Don't flatter yourself with demonic, worldly wisdom that James already told you to repent of. Additionally you are supposed to be leaning into being Anointed One's body. You are supposed to supply being a solution provider. Don't hold back circulation!
Knowledge is often, by default, a type of luxury.
Knowledge is often times like money.
If you don't do something virtuous with your knowledge then it's going to kill you.
Life is not just about growing. Life, and the human experience, is about having babies and teaching them the word of God. We do need to increase in knowledge to fill the earth, but you need to reproduce virtue as you grow & gain.
If you know something that is not right, or you know that something is going awry then take action and write/speak an answer for it. A monotheistic love for your neighbor is to rebuke your neighbor and not just let things slide.
You either have an answer for others or you need to repent yourself until you have a better answer than them. You are sharing in the same character flaws that they have if you can't inspire them to change.
You don't know anything unless you can empower others to do better.
If I feel like something is wrong yet I can't empower them then the responsibility is on me.
Judas
Prov 29:1 He who is often rebuked and keeps stiffening his neck will suddenly be destroyed without remedy
Unity is available by first forgiving people
And then be positive
And then if, for example, you feel afraid of being taken advantage of then repent of doing something wrong by not giving over to another the virtue required to promote reciprocation. The reason you despair is because you are giving up and not taking action. You can be optimistic when you are doing something to make a better tomorrow. With every temptation God makes a way out so that you can bear under it. There is always something virtuous you can do!
3/30/25…4/1/25; 4/3/25
A 10:11 PM
Conference Notes:
Being emotionally dependent on each other will put you in a position/orientation where you can rejoice at the coming of the Lord
If you are slouching and complacent now then you are setting yourself up for shame at His coming. So how do we rev up? Cuz you don't/won't win a race by slouching.
1Thess_2:17 emotional lust, craving, and unresolve til you get something
Even to his own disciples, Jesus
in the midst of sending them out to preach to say things like, 'unless you are converted and become as children then you will not in no way enter the kingdom of heaven'How can you be having childlike faith and real love brewing in you?
*Wanting & craving to be together and around each other
If you don't crave this then you are in danger of shame at His coming
Why would you not want to be around other righteous people?
The devil has some very cunning devices and cuts in on us to deceive us into such shocking ways of thinking and feeling
Why would you not pray together? Personal issues, private meditation...prioritizing other things...Constrained bowels (2Cor_6:12)...distrust of each other? At odds with each other? Disconnected or disjointed or brokenness somewhere?
Why don't you feel related to each other? Simply believing heresies about each other and believing in pseudo identities about each other can make you feel this way
Deep need to believe that you really can repent and see things changed
You do not necessarily need to know all the details of what is going on with/in you in order to repent
It's an issue of logic, persistence, and zeal to repent successfully
Are we repenting enough?
Btw, your choice of a less fervent physical prayer posture can affect your repentance success rate.
Repentance is not just when you say sorry for doing what's wrong; repentance is saying sorry for even off-feelings and nebulous/ambiguous postures that are not towards prophecies, inspiration, and truth. Your predicament is not just an absence of something good, but the presence of evil (ex leaven, laziness, strongholds, lies about people, etc). Crucify these very things every single morning, or else you will acquiesce (give up/give in) to these feelings and the sins of the flesh. And this will ultimately produce vanity, luxury, lovelessness...and sin
The presence of garbage makes you constrained [narrowed] towards righteous people (2Cor_6:12)
Remember that if you want to repent and you want what's right but you find you can't do what you want to do then something is stopping you
Praying at night: don't do weakness! When you are in a posture towards slouching & weakness then that's the flesh! But if you are towards zeal then that is what is going in a spiritual direction
Remember, the spirit is towards hot breathing but the flesh is weak
*Orient yourself towards virtue while you "wait" for breakthroughs to happen
If someone else is not ready then at least you're ready
If you are not "feeling it" then at least you are posturing yourself to welcome breakthroughs when they do come
As long as you're welcoming the truth when it does come then you are fulfilling the preparedness of 1Thess_2:17-20
You do not have to turn the light switch on in order to be in a good posture, but you do need to be in the same room.
You do not need to turn on the spigot, but you do need to be there at the faucet to drink when it is turned on.
Being prepared is not per say the ability to turn on the light switch or the faucet from heaven
Your responsibility is if you are welcoming it and beseeching God to turn on the light!
Sitting down on the ground (the Lord told his apostles in the garden to sit here while he went yonder to pray)
Kneeling and falling forward on face (as the Lord himself did in the garden)
Standing up/walking/pacing (ex Elisha praying fervently for a miracle to happen when raising a dead boy in 2Kings_4:32-35)
Also consider clenching your fists...Jesus had to have done something like this when sweating "drops of blood" in the garden. And, when he raised girl from the dead you get a hint at and glimpse of his behind-the-scenes zeal when noticing his mightily gripping hand that he helped her up with (Mat_9:25 Greek word for took hold, Mark_5:41 Greek word for having taken, Luke_8:54 Greek word for taking hold)
You won't convince your soul that you love God if you're not praying fervently. And you won't love people if you're not even loving God in prayer.
You need to be asking other righteous people what are the next steps towards virtue upgrades?
A prereq of asking questions like this is that you need to be sensitive and constantly aware of the desolation of your flesh
You need to be constantly thinking about how you can repent, and how you can get more virtue, and what you can do differently today, etc
How to process time scarcity? What if you want to ask persistent discipleship questions but you hesitate due to not seeing a fair way to travel, where you have sufficient time to both ask your question and to hear an adequate answer for your question? I thought we wanted to be careful about being overly general with our questions and just asking blanket million dollar questions, and thus putting the majority of the leg work on the one answering. Speaking of, don't we want to make sure we've done enough work on our end in generating a well timed and thought out question? And don't we also want to give the one answering a fair shot at being able to give a good response? We don't want to put each other in a "hit and run" predicament do we? But then again, I suppose if we fulfill the prereq of being very aware and sensitive to the desolation of our flesh then asking those types of questions, and answering them, would probably be a lot easier and efficient even in constrained time crunches...
See: Optimized Talking
Also among us when we set aside time to ask each other questions & such, there can be this unspoken feeling that we need to be able to ask questions and talk through things while somehow maintaining our dignity or something. What are your thoughts about that?
How to process feelings of things not changing? What do you do if you face feelings that you've talked about/thru certain topics over and over before, and you don't feel like you're making much progress, at least not quickly at all, and there is still yet need to talk further? How can you fight to take heart that things will indeed change even if you must face the same social situations and discussions over and over again? Believing that things can change seems like it's at the core of a lot of discouragement and any draggings of zeal towards each other...
We mentioned, "why would you not want to be around the righteous?"
Well, church people often say things like they feel most judged by other church people. People don't want to be condemned. And humans generally don't like being misunderstood, and much less scrutinized by others.
Furthermore, people get comfortable with the way they want to live and they don't like others "cramping their style" and inconveniencing the way they feel they need to manage their own life.
People naturally have very different ways of applying life and living it out, and it takes A LOT of work to transpose and converge the way you live with another person, and much more work with an entire community. The world would go so far as to say that it's all just a very impractical and inconvenient way of living.
I know the churchy mentality as a whole is just hogwash and worldly, and you need to forsake such doctrines and ways of thinking when coming into Covenant with the Truth. We're not supposed to be those who draw back, but rather press in and come into the light and welcome being "scrutinized" by the light and becoming light in the process. That being said, are there any ways in which we can fortify ourselves from being affected by churchy schools of thought that fears/avoids judgment, condemnation, and incompatibleness from others?
7/28/24
Sun 5:25pm
The new covenant is not about flattering religious people. It's about convicting religious rich people.
The old relationship with the Bible is disobeying it. So saying that JC came to fulfil the law therefore I don't have to is THE OLD RELATIONSHIP with the law & Bible.
So what can we say about the new covenant that is spiritual and not just easy for flesh balls to agree with? What can we say about the new relationship at hand?
Jesus came and brought the law into the fullness of the New Covenant so that he could tell us how to be saved and non fleshly with the law, which only energizes saved people and has zero tolerance for flesh anymore. This wonderful summary is NOT against the law; it is totally in line with the law. And it glorifies God by emphasizing his groaning against the flesh.
Mat 5:18 loosing 1 yota or keriah, or verse 19 loosing 1 commandment = You're going to lose.
There is no room for the flesh! Jesus was serious. He wasn't laughing, and no we are not interpreting. Therefore run!
Jesus does not tie looser; he ties tighter. So whatever you do, you have to tighten up! There's no ambiguity or wiggle room around this. There is no tolerance for the flesh. Everytime you see someone loosing, that's the flesh and that's the old relationship with the Bible.
Mat 5:20 flesh = hell
Why is it that the law and the prophets need to be fulfilled? Because they are talking to lost, hard hearted, fleshly Israelites and unsaved people. The Bible says the law was weakened THROUGH the flesh. The flesh was weak and not strong enough to keep the law. The law was not fulfilled through fleshiness. The law was not lacking; the people were!
The law does not have an expiration date; but the disobedient sinners who had been authorized to carry it out, they do have an expiration date!
Moses could not motivate the wicked Israelites to behave themselves by fear of heavens judgment because that would have required faith in what's invisible, and they did not have faith!
That's exactly why Paul says "the law is not of faith"
It's good for Moses to try and stop them from being so evil, but the weakness is that they are, after all, still evil, so Moses could do but so much.
The problem is through THEM. The problem is not Moses or God.
Fleshballs say that the law is like a tyrant and bully, tormenting us what to do but never empowering us to do it. Excuse me, if you read the Bible, who were the ones wanting to stone Moses and Aaron? So who are the really bullies? The fleshly people! Not Moses & the Law!
You really need a new relationship with what God said, so that you can obey it.
1.Are the following verses from the old testament?
2.Is Jesus tightening or is he loosening?
3.Is He filling up something internally?
Mat 5:21-22 relationship restitution reconciliation
1 yes old testament -Don't murder (the 10 commandments) and being judged in the courts of Israel. Jesus quotes not only the old testament law but also their applications of the law.
2 tightening
3 filling up in not being angry internally to avoid the heavenly judgment and gehenna
Jesus is able to legislate on an attitude hidden inside of your heart because there is no tolerance for the flesh, and faith is demanded to fear God concerning the judgment to come, and this fills up a law that could only previously address external circumstances.
Jesus is talking about what YOU have to do. He is not saying 'i fulfilled so that you don't have to, no law no law, no law'. He is saying, 'I fulfilled the law so that you are without excuse, and you too can take up your cross and follow me, cuz YOU DO HAVE TO fulfil the truth to make it!
Zero tolerance for flesh is the real New Covenant
The beatitude is not as simple as you think. The beatitudes define who the right people are and then it keeps repeating it throughout the Sermon on the Mount
Example: Blessed are the poor in the spirit – this includes begging, which would completely overthrow what we know in churhianity.
The new covenant is not about flattering religious people it is about convicting them
The dispensationalist says JC replaced the law/fulfill the law so I DON’T have to, but that is the old relationship with the Bible (that the Israelites had). Israelites disobeyed the Bible because they were hard hearted and apostate, then church people come along and disobey the Bible because they are hard hearted and apostate.
The thing that dispensationalist and jewishizers are not saying is that Jesus came to bring the law into its fullness into the new covenant that only energizes saved people and has zero tolerance for the flesh anymore.
There is intolerance for the flesh in the New Covenant promotes heart purifying righteous faith
Notice in verse 19 that loosening one commandment or in verse 18 loosening one iota and keriah horn means you lose – no tolerance for flesh
Whenever you see someone loosening:
- that is the old covenant
- that is the flesh
- that is the old relationship with the Bible.
What we see is that flesh = hell in verse 20
Why is it the law and the prophets needs to be fulfilled? Because they are talking to lost hard hearted unsaved people
The law doesn’t have an expiration date but the disobedient sinners who were authorized to carry it out do have an expiration date.
We need to labor and we need to hurt to produce truth to save people out from churchianity
Verse 21 and onwards we are going to ask
- are these from the Old Testament / law and prophets
- is he tightening or loosening?
- is he filling up something internally?
Restitution
Don’t murder or you will be judged = the law / 10 commandments
Judgment = the court of Israel
What’s the contrast?
The earthly judgment verses the judgment to come
The first judgment is social the second judgment is heavenly
Moses could not motive the Israelites to behave themselves from the fear of the judgment to come because that would require faith and they didn’t have faith!!
That’s exactly why Paul says ‘The Law is not of Faith’
Gal_3:12 NKJV "Yet the law is not of faith, but 'the man who does them shall live by them.
It is good for Moses to try to stop them from being evil but the weakness is that they are still evil
The wicked apostate Israelites are the bully trying to throw rocks at the law writers
Jesus is able to legislate on an attitude hidden inside of your heart because there is no tolerance for flesh, and faith is demanded to fear God concerning the judgment to come. This fulfill/fills up that previously could only address external circumstances. Do you understand the law and how it is being fulfilled yet?
He is not saying I fulfill so you don’t have to, he is saying I fulfilled the law so you do have to live in fulfillment of the law.
We desperately need a moral dictionary because all of our words are twisted. That is what the devil wants because where confusion is there deception thrives.
He is quoting the OT as it is applied, he is tightening it up the law and he is filling up in a way that is filling up the heart.
It is not what you don’t have to do, it is what you DO have to do
Raka Rules
· V21-22 is that the 2nd is lighter than the 1st
· Raka is harsher than fool in their linguist
· Raka is closely associated/partly parallel with wrath
· Raka could potentially be partly like profanity/cursing
· “I can see how rejecting and considering your brother worthless is worse than calling him a fool.”
· Raka is so bad it has social consequences, whereas the word fool requires faith to fear God in the metaphysical consequences
· Evil unsaved people knew that raka was taboo
· Fool was not bad enough to have social consequences
· Evil people did not know how to punish saying fool
· You may not think through all these rules but if you do you have to admit that these rules are required
Extra biblically it is always about taking away value from someone by saying they are empty of something valuable
The real point of raka is that you actually need to fear God about saying fool to your brother
Zero Flesh Tolerance: you can’t even say “fool”, and be morally lazy just because it is a socially tolerated sin.
Sinful Israelites had tolerated the flesh saying some bad things but Jesus’ New Covenant does not tolerate any flesh saying even “littler” bad things to one’s brother.
We would say murder gets capital punishment of social judgment parallels with raka that gets judgment of the Sanhedrins
Being made wrathful gets the heavenly punishment of eternal judgment, and parallels with fool that requires faith to fear God about Gehenna fire to avoid even saying a lighter insult to your brother.
Disciple
How do these tie in to the beatitudes/ 9 blessings
Difficulties: List the difficulties most people face with these passages ie. What is he talking about? How to obey this?
How does overthrow churchianity
Don’t translate difficulties into disobedience
Overseer’s Wife
Sun 3:02pm
I'm repasting my questions from the other week:
Btw, at some point soon I would really like Matthew 5: 22 to be addressed - being angry with a brother.
TSB is the source text that includes the word "lightly", but other source texts don't even give that exception. So what exactly is the Lord getting at?
don't be passively allowing yourself to become wrathful towards a brother at all. Or,
don't be passively allowing yourself to become wrathful towards a brother without a good reason (I.e. without a cause, or don't be angry lightly)
If the Lord meant to not get wrathful at all then why does Paul seem to say that if you do get wrathful then don't let the sun go down on that. So, don't STAY wrathful
If the Lord meant don't get wrathful lightly then does that imply that you can be wrathful towards a brother in a spiritual way in this covenant?
Mat 5:25 Agreeing with your "anti-justice". I assume that according to the context, your anti-justice person is a brother in the assembly. Is that correct? Is it also correct to say that an anti-justice person does not include an outsider unbeliever, such as the one mentioned later who might force you to go one mile, or take your tunic from you? Your anti-justice brother actually has something righteous against you (where you need to find a way to quickly humble yourself and agree with them), versus an outsider who is just persecuting you. You don't have to "agree with" the persecutor correct, even though you still might go two miles or give them your himatian?
Initial Acknowledgement
of the Do-Teacher
6/16/24
Sun 5:11pm
So is hell part of the
kingdom of heaven?
Sun 5:16pm
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do his commandments, that they may
have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the
city. 15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the
murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Sun 5:18pm
So the scribes and
Pharisees are pretty religious so how do you go beyond a religious leader?
Sun 5:19pm(edited)
Private question: The other
folks don't have an avenue to ask questions here. If it's QnA time/the floor is
open for questions, should we open it up for the Ty/phone people to ask
questions also?
Sun 5:42pm
Isnt 'whoever breaks the least commandment' also in singular
form?
Can you be called great if
you're not a teacher?
Sun 6:16pm(edited)
Sir was flaming
It was challenging for me
to even take much notes today because he was blazing so fast. My fingers got
stunned.
I'm glad Im allowed to think he's dreamy 🥰
I hope Ty gets gripped, and
gives over a reasonable response at some point, and just can't go back to
churchianity the same...
AlSun 6:35pm(edited)
Some Notes: Sermon on the
Mount series
The Sermon on the Mount is about
finding and entering into a real, spiritual, invisible Kingdom.
The Truth is
counterintuitive to the flesh, BUT it is NEVER illogical
Psalm 119
open my eyes to wonderful things in
your law. This means that by nature, eyes are closed and can't see spiritual
things naturally. You need supernatural help!
Luke 24 the Lord opened the
scriptures to the eyes of the disciples on the road to Emmaus
Mat 23 religious leaders
had the "key of knowledge", which means that by default the doors are
locked to the natural common person
You're desperate, desolate,
and in danger of not entering in the Kingdom if you dont
get help. No room for independence- insanity!
The Sermon on the Mount is
telling you where Truth is at.
The Truth has got a
kingdom, a king, subjects, and laws.
Church people want miracles
and sensationalism (something intuitive, agreeable, compatible, and impressive
to the flesh). Protestantism has always followed impressive preaching (and squakers). But the Sermon on the Mount is telling you how
to think differently and what to look for, and how to identify God's kingdom
and people.
The New Covenant is a
betrothal, it's a covenant, it's a marriage!
When you're talking about
something as serious as a marriage then there is no space for wiggle room here.
And the Sermon on the Mount is a marriage proposal of the New Covenant
The Spirit AND THE BRIDE
say Come! Do you love Jesus' voice? You will regard his words through his Bride
as well...(authoritative, divinly inspired, virgin
bride with his lamp in her hands and his fire in her eyes)...when you fall in
the love with the real Jesus then this duo of God & his people will be an
"and" in your heart, verses a protestant "God alone" thing
The
preaching of the new covenant and apprehending that preaching (i.e. salvation)
is about taking the Bible serious enough to where you connect to its Author.
If the world would praise
you for it then hide it (Mat 6)
If they would persecuted
you for it then shine it (Mat 5)
...
Sun 7:42pm(edited)
Yay!
We did a SOM bible study! Thanks for bringing out exciting Truths today great
Sir.
Sun 8:05pm
Yeah
I look forward to continuing our series
…
6/16/24
Sun 10:42pm
Thank you for your zealous
passionate Bible Study Great Sir. I'm encouraged to cry out to be one of the
mega great ones in the kingdom of the heavens.
6/17/24
Mon 1:13pm(edited)
I included verses 17-20
because I would appreciate going over those again. Over dinner last night I had
mentioned that out of all the things Sir went over yesterday, the one thing
that I'm still seeking to wrap my mind around is the do-teacher concept;
singular mega great teacher verses plural doers who are getting righteousness
through that singular teacher... I was struggling with the potential risk of
reading too much into the text or interpreting more than it is actually
directly saying.
So far, the following is a
summary thought I had after our dinner discussion. I'm wondering if this is
what the Lord was primarily wanting his hearers to walk away
understanding about Matt 5:18-20? Feedback/clarifications/corrections
appreciated:
The cultural context: the
Lord was addressing an audience that included his primary male apostles (who
were being apprenticed to teach), and his other non
apostolic disciples which probably involved many illiterate woman. So
when the Lord mentions things like 'you can't break a yota
or keriah' then it probably would have triggered
thoughts in his audience such, "oh, then I really need to know all the yotas and keriahs, and the only
way to do that in our culture/context is to study under one of the sages so
that I can know what not to break. If I don't have the ability, like one of the
apostles, to leave everything and go be apprenticed & thoroughly trained to
take up the trade of a reputable teacher then I need to at least have the law
read to me on a regular basis by someone who is going to tell me what the law
really says. Either way (or whatever the case), attaining to not breaking a single
yota or keriah in our day
& age of antiquity starts with learning from another what those yotas and keriahs are".
Similarly, when the Lord
proceeded to say that your righteousness needs to exceed the scribes and the
Pharisees, that probably could have triggered thoughts in his audience such as,
"How can I do that? Well, I know that Psalm 51, for example, mentions
sacrifice and offerings you are not pleased with. And the elitist leaders seem
to do those type of offerings all the time and God is
not happy with them because they are still grossely
breaking his rules. But rather, the psalm says that what God is pleased with is
a broken and crushed spirit. So I need to at least start with poor in spirit
like the Lord testified to in the opening of his sermon. Surely a broken and
humble and poor and begging spirit is the beginning of being more righteous
than the religious leaders of our day. But I can't just walk around like a
broken mess in life, all day 24/7. I need to fill up more than the starting point
of brokenness & empty poverty. I need to actually know what to do with
myself in life, and how to move forward and function in righteousness. I need
understanding of the law! And how can I proceed and continue to keep all the
law even better than the sages whom he is unhappy with? Well, I guess it goes
back to what the Lord just said about a mega great teacher who will teach me
how to actually keep all the yotas and keriahs".
Mon 1:43pm(edited)
Greatness:
By the way, at dinner last
night Sir mentioned and reinforced that you don't necessarily need to be a
teacher to be great in God's kingdom. The Lord mentioning a do-teacher being
mega great is not an exclusive statement. Maybe it's more of a
factual/observational statement to say that someone who does and teaches the
law is mega great. That doesn't say that they are the only people who are mega
great in the kingdom. Hence, the other statements in the
scriptures such as 'whoever wants to be great let him be the least'. So,
the least is the greatest in the kingdom. This is the main foundational
measuring tool for greatness.
I do consider though that
often those who are least seem to end up being those who are serving truth (the
most important resource in life) to others in a pastoral sense (shepherding the
flock of anointed one, his prized possession). The pastoral task requires
teaching & reproducing the doctrines of the Lord; and it takes a lot of
subjection, lowliness, meekness, and a long term patient service to men to
accomplish it.
Mon 2:31pm
Thanks for the thoughts :+)
I'm still thinking through them...
Mon 6:54pm
*Correction: We are
supposed to walk around 24/7 in virtues such as begging for spirituals,
meekness, cleanness in heart, etc
6/30/24
Sun 4:14pm
What's the worse thing/impact of thinking the law no longer applies?
Pragmatically
Sun 4:18pm(edited)
"pragmatically"?
- maybe people tend to feel justified in believing
that you dont have to focus on the details of the law
because JC did all the work to focus on that stuff. Now, all we're responsible
for is fluffy love, and just doing what convicts you if you have to, but again
make sure you avoid being legalistic by getting preoccupied with all the
details.
Sun 4:24pm(edited)
Thinking law no longer
applies = permission or leverage or a license to be loose and undirected and
uncontrolled by a Law in your life
Psalm 2:3 Let us break their bonds in pieces and cast away their cords
from us
Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what
was right in his own eyes
Sun 4:33pm
✓ Thanks
Sun 4:39pm(edited)
Application examples:
-Rules of menstruation
-blaspheming the patriarchs
(ex Leslie Mcfall said
"praise God Moses is dead...now we have jc"
-head coverings were just a
cultural practice; not required or mandatory now
"woman
thou art loosed" from your veil
-jc
nailed the law to the cross and moved it out of our way (i.e. obedience and
failure thereof kept us from God)
-misquote of Acts 15:10
don't put a yoke on the neck of the gentile disciples by making them obey all
the law, cuz neither our fathers nor we have been
able to keep everything
AySun 5:34pm
Thanks for the rich
blessings!
Sun 5:36pm
Ya!
Sun 5:37pm
Nugget: Anointed One
fulfilled the law so we should overflow in it (unless your righteousness
surpasses the scribes and pharasees...).
@Al thanks for your kind
prayers today as well. I greatly appreciated it.
Sun 6:58pm
I really appreciate God
loving us so much that He gave us our Overseer. Thank you
Overseer for telling us truth that nobody else has and actually trying to save
us from all the pitfalls of churchianity. And yes, I want to agree with
your prayers and pray also that these words would bear fruit in us.
HdSun 6:58pm
Thanks Happy :+)
Sun 9:06pm
Yay = -)
(っ⌒‿⌒)っ
(wanting
to find keyboard characters to use in order to depict pictures and emojis and such. Sir says keyboard characters degrade more
gracefully with historical/archived content)
SOM Conference Notes -- from Overseer’s Wife
Sun
9:11pm(edited)
Whenever you read the
Bible, and if there is something that makes you feel uncomfortable then that's
often what you need the most. Embrace it and don't let it go cuz your salvation is there!
Dont "divide and conquer" the Bible. Rather combine
and obey it!
The Sermon on the Mount is
(1) teaching how to identify the right people, because He is going to
prioritize the right people, and then (2) the laws of the kingdom, and then
again (3) the right people
As you read the SOM you
should be constantly asking yourself, "how do I get in"?
Mat 12:33 either make the
tree good or bad
Ok, so, HOW DO YOU MAKE THE
TREE GOOD?
After heaven and earth pass
away, then we'll be governed by a moral universe, instead of an immoral physics
universe. Don't walk around rejoicing (and boasting) that the law is abolished,
unless you have also gone crazy and are convinced that the heavens and earth
are no longer around.
Mat 5:19 Jesus is pointing
forward to the commands that he is about to expound on. I.e. He says
"whoever breaks one of the least of THESE commandments..."
Mat 7:24, 26 Jesus is
pointing backward to all the commands he just expounded on when he says
"everyone who hears that of THESE my words"
Thus, Jesus is making his
words synonymous with the law & commandments
Mat 24:35 heaven and earth
will pass away but my words will by no means pass away
Mat 5:18 Jesus came to
fulfil (fill up in) the law, and it/everything won't
be completely finished until the next age, when "heaven & earth pass
away"
Jesus, by his spirit, fills
up in the law, and overflows into and through his servants. Rom 8:4 and Rom
3:31 The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in
us... We uphold the law and cause it to stand
(my
tablet battery was dying. Didn't finish my notes today)
AlSun 10:29pm
I appreciate going through
The Sermon on the Mount. It seems really important for us as a group to get
thoroughly solidified and established (in a summarized way) as to who we are,
what we believe & represent, what makes us different, and how we can beckon
the nations to "Come" through sizzling intros to the Kingdom and with
a new covenant marriage proposal.
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Sun 10:53pm(edited)
6/30/24
@Hd
Is Psalm 41 a part of your SOM Psalms?
Psa 41:1-3 LOGOS
1 A Psalm of David. Blessed
is the man who thinks on the poor and needy; the Lord shall deliver him in an
evil day.
2 May the Lord preserve him
and keep him alive, and bless him on the earth, and not deliver him into the
hands of his enemy.
3 May the Lord help him
upon the bed of his pain; You have made all his bed in
his sickness.
I'm still pondering on what
is considered a SOM Psalm...
Sidenote, verse 3 is very interesting. What does all that mean?
Disciple Notes
Do you see the rainbow in the
sky?
You can't say the old testament has passed away and disrespect God in his
promise to Noah if the rainbow is still there!
Disciple Notes
How can you die to the law
and also fulfill it?
In the law there are
curses, definitions of being evil, stiff neck and disgusting to God. You can
die to these definitions and turn from your wicked ways and be righteous. If
you do this then those curses no longer apply to you and you fulfill the law
and surpass the Scribes and Pharisees
7/23/24
Acts 15 -- Overseer’s Wife’s Question
Overseer’s Wife Asked:
Sun
5:01pm
Some of the Pharisees who
were also believers seemed to want to promote 'NOT abolishing the law' and they
were wanting to be convinced that the gentiles need to
be circumcised and keep the law of Moses to be saved. Peter stood up and said
don't put a yoke on the neck of the disciples that "neither our fathers
nor we were able to bear".
To confirm, Peter wasnt saying that no one in history was able to keep the
law, but that no one was able to be saved by refining their flesh enough?
I think people really get
tripped up by Acts 15:10-11 and it seems that they greatly misunderstand Peter
7/14/24
Sun 7:51pm
Churchianity has been trying to push & establish one of the same things for thousands of years, namely that you can live in sin and go to heaven
You have to (and can only) connect to the real God through virtue (2Pe 1:3). You can't just be a sinful person and connect to the right God.
Virtue - the moral strength to do what is right
Romans 2 and SOM Parallels:
-Romans 2:1-3 You who judge another condemn yourself by doing the same things (i.e. plank in eye)
-v4 Do you despise God's useful kindness towards sinners? It's meant to lead them to repentance (i.e. God causes his sun to shine on the good and evil, and rain to come upon them as well)
-v13 The doers of the law will be justified (i.e. those who hear and do that of My Words)
-v21/22 committing theft and adultery in unobvious ways
-v27 The gentiles fulfil and perfect the law, NOT abolishing it (every yota, keriah, and all the words of Jesus "that of these my Words)
-v29 'whose praise is not of men but of God's (ex your Father who sees in secret will reward openly)
Romans 6:21 if you complete the shame in death then you do not cease from shame, you continue bearing your shame FOREVER
Telios is not ending the shame in death
Romans 6:22
You don't stop being holy after obtaining eternal life
The complete perfection of holiness is not it's termination
You will continue in holiness, worshipping God and blending your voice with the angels who cry out holy holy holy!
7/14/24
Churchianity has been trying to teach the same overt/covert sin that you can live in sin and go to heaven. This has been going on fot the last 1700 plus years
Even sincere people like Paul Washer who say you can’t live a life characterized by sin still say “when” you sin when talking about 1 John instead if “IF” we sin
If you would just obey it, you would be relevant to when he says something that refers to evry heartbeat of obediedience when you will perk up because it is vivid to you
1Pe_1:3
There is lust in this world and those who are lusting are decaying. The only way to escape is to go through a portal of virtues and on the other side of this portal is God’s divinity (Divine Nature). Divine Nature does not sin, which you can take ahold of
You got to connect to God through virtures
Glory and virture
When you preach “faith alone” you do Not know God
The 2 most abuse chaters in the Bivble ar Romans 2 and Romans 7. In chapter 2 when they are talking about a righteous peopn they say he is talking about the unrighteous person. Tin Chapter 7 when they are ta
Rom_2: The doers of the law is righteous
Hypocritical Jews are
When Paul is using /talking about perfecting the law he is not talking about ending it.
Hell and Heaven
Telios is not ending!
When you are holy, you are never going to stop being holy and righteous!
In hell you are going to be ashamed of what you did, you never stop be ashamed
7/7/24
Sun 5:46pm(edited)
FITR:
(F)
You have to Fulfill
(I)
every Iota & keriah of the law
(T)
through a do-Teacher
(R)
to apprehend surpassing Righteousness in order to get
into God's kingdom
Luther
Propaganda
Romans
3:28 Luther inserted the word "alone" so that the verse says that a
man is justified by faith alone
Rom
10:4 Luther translated the Greek word "perfect" as "end".
Though he knew Greek, and though he knew how to easily translate the Greek word
telios as perfect (cuz he
did this in Mat 5:48), yet when it came to Romans 10:4 he conveniently
translated perfect as "end" to further his demonic agenda- "christ is the end of the law"
But
did Paul follow the FITR example that we see in the SOM?
Rom
10:4 Anointed One is the perfection of the law INTO righteousness for all those
believing
Rom
8:4 so that the righteousness of the law might be FULFILLED (filled up) in us
Rom
3:31 we make the law to stand & to be established (through faith in
Anointed One who is the perfection of the law in Rom 10:4. And thus, the
righteous orthodox loop continues).
Rom
11:12 when the Jews get the FULLNESS of Jesus' salvation then that obviously
doesn't mean that the Lord will assassinate & terminate them. Quite the
opposite!
Rom
13:8-10 he who loves one another has FULFILLED the law
If
Christ fulfilled & ended the law then what are you
doing going around trying to fulfill it also by claiming to "love"?
You
need to be consistent - Real, obedient, and concrete
love is the FULFILLMENT of the law
You
don't fill up a cup and then throw it away. Illogical! Jesus did not do this
(Mat 5:17).
Neither
do you break the cup (I.e. abolish the law) and then fil it with water.
Illogical! We don't practice this ourselves (Rom 13:8,
etc).
When
you fill up a pot, the substance conforms to the shape. Jesus did not come to
rebel against his Father. He came to submit to his Father. He did not come to undue. He came to fulfill the shape of Moses. Hint: What is
Jesus doing in the wilderness to fortify himself against the devil? He is
quoting Deuteronomy!
"All
you need to do is focus on love"..."You don't need any of those thou
shalt nots", says the church person.
But
what did Paul actually say in Rom 13:9?
Love
is fulfilling the law
Love
is summarizing the law
The
law is headed up again in love
The
substance of the law goes up into a head (or summary) of love
You
don't behead (decapitate) the law! You head up the law
Rom
15:13
Jesus
fulfilling means that you overflow
Paul
blesses them- may God fulfill so that you overflow
Rom
15:19 Paul "fully preached" does not mean that he stopped preaching
or terminated his preaching. It doesn't mean the gospel has passed away, or
Jerusalem, or Illyricum, or the people he preached to passed
away...It doesn't mean that anything passed away!
From
beginning to end, when Paul talks about fulfillment, and fulfilling, and
fullness...zero percent of the time he does [he]
not speak of terminating or ending or annihilating
that which was filled up in.
Paul
is a good guy, completely compatible with FITR logic.
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Ecc_12:
if you break a water pitcher, then the water leaks out
If
you break the law, it makes no sense to go around trying to fill it up!
…
Right
after Paul says anointed one perfected the law, if it meant to “end” it, then
why is Paul quoting from Deu_30: a few verses later???
…
Hebrew
Disobedience Does Not Overrule Greek Truth
The Change from OT to Matthew 26
-- Under Construction --
Wife’s Notes
Oath Rules --
Overseer’s Wife’s Notes
Mon Jan 4 at 1:43pm
Here are some notes from Bible reading today:
Sir and I have been listening to this Karite Jew named Nehemiah Gordan.
We appreciate his thoughtfulness beyond many Christian pastors. But in the matter concerning Oaths:
Nehemiah says that the Hebrew Jesus of the NT does not put an absolute prohibition on making Oaths, but rather that you shouldn't swear FALSELY. Because after all, Jer_12:16 says that the Nations need to be able to swear by the name of YHWY so that they can be built up with His people.
[and yet, it is geographically,
ethnically, and chronologically limited to Israel’s Evil, seducing,
Baal-worshiping neighbors. We don’t know when these prophecies were fulfilled,
and furthermore it is not implied that these blessings are directly linked to
the other nations who are not Israel’s neighbors.]
Our current position:
Matthew 5 in the Hebrew text that Nehemiah Gordan is using does indeed say don't swear falsely. But the Greek text, along with the corroboration of the rest of the NT Greek texts, including the famous James 5 passage, does communicate an absolute prohibition of swearing at all, and anything more than an emphatic yes or no is out of the evil one.
Yes, out of all the New Testament books we know that the Book of Matthew has an original writing in Hebrew before it was translated into the Greek. But we can't confirm that the Hebrew text Nehemiah Gordon is using is original and legit. Mainly because if we were to use that text then it would contradict & usurp the rest of the NT that uses Greek source texts, which texts are unparalleled in agreement beyond any body of written work in all antiquity. The overall compilation of Greek accounts that make up the New Testament that we have are accurate, impressive in overall agreement, and reliable. If we were to accept the Hebrew manuscript of Matthew that Nehemiah Gordon is using than it would in effect put into question the Greek manuscripts used for the rest of the New Testament, and cause them to become pending sources upon which we cannot yet base much of anything on. This pending posture would be contrary to what the early church did.
So, back to swearing:
Our current posture is an absolute prohibition against swearing in this Covenant.
Mat_5 says let you word be yes yes, no no.
(The Sermon on the Mount seemed to be an event that took place over the span of a number of days [Luk_6]. So when Jesus preached, by default it was towards a variety of audiences. Thus, sometimes you might use more Hebrew rooted phrases such as "Amen Amen" I say to you, especially when he's addressing the smaller crowd of his disciples, and in other places on The Sermon on the Mount he might say something more generic and universally understood, with a more universal dialect such as "Yes Yes, No No".)
Amen Amen and Yes Yes are in essence the same thing, just with different verbage or dialects. Both phrases are the same response, following the same moral principle of emphasizing/reinforcing the Truth (as opposed to emphasizing "7 times" with an oath).
[
Speaking of dialect, Sir also
mentioned that the Bible uses different dialects all the time. So if an
disobeyer said "well JC said Truly truly/Verly verly/Amen amen and that's
not yes yes, therefore I can say/swear whatever I want", this is incorrect
because these are examples are yes yes-ing in a different dialect
As a fiery preacher you become all things
to all men so you may save some (this includes their dialect) but as a receiver
of the written Bible you learn to accept whatever dialect the Bible is given in
to you.
I hope I transferred that
correctly]
[the example of Jesus constantly
reinforces His Prohabition on swearing: by His own two-fold Amen afirmations as
well as His brilliant oath avoidance before the high priest.]
Why a change in the NT? Why was it okay to swear in the Old Testament but now all of a sudden it's of the evil one in the New Testament?
We might need to go into a whole nother Bible study to thoroughly address that, but suffice it to say for now it is worth considering the aspect that the change probably has something to do with LYING.
It was okay to lie in the Old Testament (and for valid reasons that we won't go into here), but now there is an absolute prohibition against lying.
>>Scrip:
[all favor and Truth came by Jesus]
Let's use a great example to depict these things:
1Ki_22:16, 2Ch_18:15
King Ahab, the king of Israel, called for the prophet Micaiah to be brought out of prison and to stand before him and to testify what will happen in the battle. The prophet, knowing that he was despised and that the king didn't really care about the truth, went on to tell the king what the king wanted to hear - that the king would win if he went to war. The king, knowing that this wasn't the truth, went on to say, 'how many times must I put you under oath to tell me the truth?'. Once the king did that then the prophet was obliged to respond in a way that would benefit the king (i.e. to tell him the Truth), and he told him the truth that the king would indeed lose the battle.
Under this Covenant we are not allowed to lie anymore. We must benefit our enemies even if it kills us. So, there is no need for us to swear at all in order to showcase that we really are telling the truth this time. Now under this Covenant let our words be true, Yes or No.
Jesus himself splendidly displayed & reinforced an obedience to his own commandment.
In both the Hebrew and Greek accounts of Mat_26:63-64, the High Priest, similar to King Ahab, put an oath on the Lord to tell them the truth if he was the Son of God or not. The Lord was silent up until that point. Once the oath was put upon him, he, like the prophet Micaiah, responded. But through sheer wisdom Jesus' ingenious answer avoided the swearing. He managed to answer without agreeing with being oath-ed to do so. He said, 'you have said it', thus putting the implications of taking an oath upon the unbeliever. But Jesus also answered their question and affirmed the Truth by going on to say that he was the Son of Man who was going to come in power upon the clouds.
[He precisely avoided the actual
Word for Swearing]
8/11/24
Repent of modern snobbery
Thinking that modern cultures are so far advanced and beyond ancient superior monotheistic cultures
Lev_19: says you are not allowed to detest/hate your neighbor but you are allowed to rebuke them…that is the preceding context to loving your neighbor as yourself
The gentiles were not in that kind of relationship with Israel
Gentiles were not under a law of righteousness and could not be appealed to by logical objective convictions of righteousness
Then the questions becomes, Are they a righteous and commendable son of Noah that admires Israel and are at peace with them or are they an apostate barbaric son of Noah who is then at odds and hostile with Israel?
There is a very big national communal aspect to that concept and obviously that applies to Israel as well because an Israelite could apostate but they could be executed
There is this idea that an apostate Israelite would be cut off from his people which includes social excommunication and ultimately execution
If you made society righteous and someone does evil and perversion then you would seek out their downfall
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David said I will get up early and seek how to cut off the sinner from the land
You cannot do that and save people. This posture is there to preserve society not individual man.
David was turning the other cheek way before its time, but at the end of his life he was planning how to assassinate/execute the death of the fleshball because he knows that was the best for the ultimate good of society
When the Law of Moses is working you need to love your neighbor as yourself, if they apostate they get cut off and treated like a gentile. Although they do mourn because Israel is reduced
The idea of Jewish excommunication and being cut off from your people still allows you to go to the temple but you are kept outside in the courts of the gentiles and you can’t offer sacrifice.
On an individual level when the law was broken in society, this is a dreadful prophesy
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A man’s enemies will be those of his own household
It’s a horrifying prophesy of gloom and doom when the law is broken
And here we go thinking we are better when it is normal for a man’s enemies to be of his own household because teenagers and children rebel against their own parents and it is remarkable and surprising when they don’t and it is hypocritical snobbery to think we are better than Israel
Where does hating your enemies come into play? When a nation is threatening the prosperity of Israel
That’s almost a literal application of law which says to annihilate the remaining descendants of Canaan
It is not a genocide it is a geocide
Perverts don’t have rights
The descendants of Canaan are commanded to leave or be annihilated
Don’t spare young or old, male or female you don’t spare anyone. Don’t spare anyone trying to defend their perverted rights.
You could theoretically hate your enemies because they were against what God was doing at that time. It was a practical and valid application of exterminating
When God’s kingdom is on earth and that is what he is doing then you fight for God because that is what he is doing
Find out what God is doing right now and throw your whole life at it. This is how you escape boredom and monotony
Don’t wait for sensational… but doing some justice with what you….
Sensationality is hypocritical because you are focus on what God can do for you instead of doing something for God
Israel killing a Palestinian is socially righteous, but then again should they? If they obey and listen to their supernatural leader/King he would fight for them
Everything that God does including a rebuke is nourishing and leading you to righteous if you obey it
If you do the last thing you were told then you can expect more
You don’t get to ask about God’s concealed will when you haven’t done his revealed will
Israel military rules including hating your enemy is based of theocracy where God is your king
God used their sin for our salvation. God keeps extending the story to save more people. God is always doing redemption
Israel should not try to focus on societal Israel right now but instead be focusing on what God is doing right now which is being morally clean
God is not saving society He is saving people and these two concepts directly compete against each other
Saving individuals is at the sacrifice of letting society “fall to pieces with moral failures”
When Jesus says love your enemies he is predicting that he is not going to be king at that time.
The moral salvation and the physical salvation go hand in hand for Israel.
Rom_11: All Israel will be saved
As soon as they crown their king he will give them salvation
They have rejected their king and savior which God sent
When Jesus comes back and is crowned king, that is called a theocracy
We will have judges as the first which would at least include the two witnesses, in as much they are saviors to Israel but they are not kings they are judges. Sinful Israel cries out and then Judges are raised up and save them
Talk about peace doing, you repent of your sins and then you love your enemies. This is above the call of duty, talk about extremes
We are focus on giving up our lives to save people to speed up the day when our king will save His people.
Wife Notes --
Simultaneously taken
8/12/24
Sun 5:29pm(edited)
SOM Neighbors and Enemies
You've heard it said, "love your neighbor and hate your enemy"
Who is considered an enemy?
Traditionally, fundamentally, those who were locally nearby Israel was considered a physical "neighbor". And if you were able to freely reason with that "neighbor", and hold them accountable to social laws and human reasonableness, and convict them when needed, then that would be a true neighbor. If you were not able to freely talk to your nearby fellow man, due to any animosity or distrust or irrationality etc, then that person would be considered an enemy.
If the nearby "neighbor" was a gentile and if they were a righteous son of Noah who admired Israel then they would be considered at peace with Israel. And they too would be considered a neighbor. But if they were a hostile, barbaric, illogical, apostate son of Noah who was at odds and enmity with Israel, then they would be considered an enemy.
So the question is largely national. There is a very big communal aspect to this concept.
On a societal level, if the Law of Moses is working well then you could love your neighbor as yourself. But if there are apostates (i.e. theologically liberal people) and if they were not able to be socially executed, then the Jews would excommunicat them. But interestingly enough they would still be allowed to go to the temple. BUT they were not allowed to offer sacrifices, and they would need to stay in the courts of the gentiles until/unless they repent.
On an individual level, when the Law was broken among society then this is a dreadful prophecy of a deranged society. And the Law also predicts that a man's enemies would be those of his own household. Tragically, this is normal in America now (ex for children to rebel against their parents). And we have this audacious, boastful snobbery to think that we are better off than ancient the Israel legislation and their societal practices.
By default, enemies = the enemies of Israel. When a nation is threatening the prosperity of Israel then this is a perverted enemy.
Prime example- if you are a descendent of Cannon and if you are a pervert then you are commanded to leave Israel or be annailated.
Under the law of Moses you do not have authorization to just go out and kill someone. That was given to the judges and kings and those who sit in authority to make that call.
When God's kingdom is on earth then you fight for God's Kingdom.
So what is God doing right now? Whatever God is doing you need to throw your whole life into it (btw, that's how you escape bordem and the monotony of this life).
Focus on doing some justice that makes sense with what God is doing right now.
Sensationalism is hypocritical because it focuses on how God will reward you when you are not concerned about how you are rewarding God.
If Israel kills their Hamas enemies then it would sorta be socially "righteous". But if they want to come to the Truth and follow Jesus then they would need to listen to their Messiah who came already (whom Moses said to watch out for and listen to the One coming) and they would need to heed the upgraded terms of the Covenant. They would need to turn the other cheek, for example, until their Messiah comes back and brings his kingdom on earth again, and THEN they will be able to physically fight and kill again.
As it is now, if the Jews were really keeping their law then they would be admitting to their liberalness and disobedience. The law doesn't tell Israel to fight their enemies when they themselves are breaking the law. They need to submit to the spanking and yield their necks under a yoke. If then if they would become truly obedient to the Law then they wouldn't even need to fight cuz their Messiah would bust through and fight for them (as the Scriptures declares and prophesies).
AlSun 5:29pm(edited)
Israel's military rules, including hating your enemy, is based on a theocracy, which is a form of government where God is reigning as king. When Jesus said love your enemies, he was predicting something that no one could have foreseen. When he said love your enemies he was predicting that Israel would not have God as their king on earth for a time. Cuz when God is king on the earth then people will be annailated.
Right now, you have to choose what you're going to primarily prioritize. Prioritize either preserving society, or prioritize saving people's souls. You have to ask yourself what is God wanting to do now, and with whom does he want to do it through.
There are two ways which Jews can validly fight for their land right now - either they (1) obey the Law and then their Messiah starts doing supernatural activity to help them which will ultimately end in Him coming back and establishing a Theocracy again, OR (2) God raises up a "judge" to help them fight their battles. Example - woman who runs in the wilderness and gets provided for in the book of Revelation, and this is simultaneously in contrast to those who hold the testimony of Jesus (so the woman who runs in the wilderness seems to be a remnant of the Jewish people). And all of this is also simultaneously happening when the two witnesses are on the scene. The 2 witnesses are types of judges. Btw, judges are saviors of Israel who are not kings.
Talk about peace doing, when you repent of your sins and then you also go and love your enemies. This is above and beyond, abundant, and really extreme.
Jewish
Excommunication
8/11/24-8/12/24
Listener Email
Mon 8/12/2024 11:40 AM
What is an example of
a way a Jew could have sinned in a way that he could not be executed but was
segregated to the court of the gentiles? And was this a hopeless situation or was
there any way that he could have been reconciled?
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God himself will seek out to blot out that man
After they threw the blind man out Jesus found him
They will put you out of their synagogues
7/6/25
Wife’s Notes with titles added by Overseer
>>> Most of this has
NOT been harvested & incorporated into RiFi yet…
7/6/25
Deuteronomy
15 – don't
send your brother-servant away empty
managing poor people and slaves
v 12-13 mentions that during the 7th year of
release, don't send your brother-servant away empty.
Don't be like Laban who dealt deceitfully with Jacob and was willing to
send him away empty if he could.
But what about Hagar & Ishmael?
They served Abraham and Sarah much more than 7 years but they were sent
away almost empty?
They were sent away prematurely because of injustice.
Mocking Isaac, despising... And Hagar was supposed to be keeping that
situation in check and not allowing that to happen...
No justice = Ishmael sent away empty
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A servant can become a true "son" when he does well (i.e.
justice)- Gal 4:7
7/6/25
What about "virgins on the altar"?
These basically live at the temple and they are not tied to one person's
particular house.
7/6/25
Coming under someone's roof = becoming a servant and having all their
needs met by the household point person. We need to let people manage all those
who are under their roof. They are the ones who need to give an answer of
hospitality and blameless management to God.
It doesn't quite work to say, "here, take care of this person, and
I'm going to also give this person money on the side as well".
7/6/25
Managing one roof is different than multiple
roofs being provided for.
Various roofs/households being managed happens either through a personal
individual decision to support that particular household, or the Assembly as a whole
can make a decision to support that household.
7/6/25
How support from The Assembly officially works:
First, things are laid at the "apostles" feet. These things
can include anything from food, clothes, lands, money, etc
The apostles can delegate to whom they choose (i.e. worthy deacons) to
help distribute the goods laid at their feet.
7/6/25
The deacons distribute according to need so that no one has need among
them.
What the deacons do is a consistent giving of a consistent supply to
those who are consistently in need of it.
But this distribution to all in the church does not involve a
wage/consistent monetary donations (which is a recognition
of work done). The Assembly distributing money to people is reserved for the
overseers, elders, and widows. If a female widow is under 60 years old then she
needs family to take care of her and/or she needs to work. And her work needs
to be recognized as excellent according to 1 Tim 5:10.
7/6/25
In the assembly church, everyone gets their
needs met, but not everyone gets a wage. And everyone gets their needs met by
working, cuz if you don't work you don't eat - 2Thess
3:10). And the deacons are there to make sure Justice happens to all. That
money and a wage is given to whom it's due, and that
all other supplies are distributed to whom it is due.
-- Under Construction --
Obey ALL Reminders
2/9/25; 3/1/25
The saying that you can say
everything right and still live wrong is totally wrong
Another example: “you can
have all your doctrine as straight as a barrel and still be just as empty”
James says that if you can
teach and not stumble in word then you are a perfect person
You CANNOT bridle your
tongue and still steer your body wrongly
The actual Bible is
declaring that saying everything truthfully without stumbling then your entire
life can be perfect
Truth is that powerful!
James says that you HAVE TO
tame the tongue or else your religion/reverence is empty worthless vain
Job does not guarantee
wealth from righteousness, but rather Job teaches that you might be righteous
and still lose all your wealth
Is it biblical to teach
that you can be righteous and get a lot of stuff- yes
But does that orthodox
principle reinforce prosperity preachers? No
Why? Because within that
orthodox principle is the teaching that you can be righteous and lose all your
wealth and receive boils, sores, and evil, yet still be blessed by God (as we
clearly see in Job)
Job_29:3 God
has the prerogative to make you feel like you are unrighteous and lost and like
He's abandoned you. God can put you through things to where your mind doesn't
feel saved, even though YOU ARE NOT supposed to actually be doing sin
Riches- if you get anything
then it had better be through virtue or else it was by the devil
You are sinning when you
get stuff without righteousness
If you get money without
virtue then you're stealing from God
Cuz God has made good things for good people
When you decide what you
are going to be prospered with (i.e. without virtue) then that's stealing from
God (and inevitably from poor people)
In all your
getting get wisdom. Do virtue first. Then get whatever God wants to give you.
This is the way the book of
Job describes him.
Job 29
Job describes the
"good ol' days" when God provided a head of
protection around him
God was with him and THEN
physical blessings followed
All this prospering
happened because:
He delivered the poor
He confronted sin and
stopped the pervert from hurting others
He got a blessing from
those ready to perish
And caused the widow's
heart to sing for joy
(Btw, when someone is
humbled YOU NEED THEIR BLESSING. You need the blessing of those who have been
sinned against)
Righteousness clothed him
and justice was a robe upon him
He was eyes to the blind
and feet to the lame
He searched out the cause
of righteous strangers (and the cause of that which wasn't intuitive,
conventional, or obviously perceivable to him. To do justice to a stranger you
need to think in a logically ethical way that benefits others)
Job disabled the
unrighteous and saved others from the teeth of cruelty
He smiled on the weak when
they had no confidence. Talk about faithfulness
He comforted the mourners
He blessed poor,
marginalized, exploited people
Giving makes prospering
righteous
It can holy-ify your abundance
12/15/24
Sun 5:03pm(edited)
Jesus said to hate your own family and even your own soul
But if you conclude that you should be angry with your family then you are not hating your own soul. But you would rather be validating your own soul
By including your soul as an object of hatred, Jesus has excluded emotional activity from hatred (cuz your soul is your emotions)
Jesus has amputated the part of hatred that you know how to naturally identify with
"No man ever spoke like this man" - Joh 7:46
Who ever talked about hating in a non emotional way? That is a new concept actually
If you can at least obey Jesus by "hating" your soul, then you can begin to understand how you are to hate your family in a non emotional valid way
John 12 context:
Murderous greedy Judas -Judas loved money
Worldly Pharisees preoccupied by numbers by the world going after Jesus in Bethany, when they were hoping that people would be gathering "to their church" in Jerusalem to celebrate the feast (Passover?)
Pharisees must have thought Jesus was sheep stealing (and we've heard that before)
People coming to see Lazerus
Greeks coming to see Jesus...
Neither Jesus' response (i.e. the words he said) nor the narrative itself (i.e. what John communicates to us) tells us what happened to the Greeks.
Usually you don't use an exclusion to make a point, however this is a pointed exclusion.
All we get after the introduction of the Greeks is instructions on how to die.
Sidenote: church people like to preach "JC alone" but Jesus said that dieing makes him not alone. Jesus himself said that he was dying so that he would not be alone.
There is some kind of contrast with "the Greeks want to see you" and "Die"
John includes the Greeks just to show that Jesus doesn't care about that
And look at what Jesus goes on to say next
John 12:25
The one hating his soul IN THAT OF THIS ARRANGED WORLD will save it and keep it in the next age
The sense, or the way, that you hate your soul is to hate your soul in the existence of this world
Notice how hating your soul in this world is towards the purpose of saving it I to eternal life
This has nothing to do with interrupting the Bible figuratively
I am commanded to literally hate my soul as it exists in this current world
It is totally, literally, morally relevant to hate your soul in this very world...because it is junked up with sin
Pharisees were complaining about jealousy for the world
And Jesus is telling us to die to the world
Glory and honor are being paralleled
And this is accomplished through dying (i.e. following Jesus unto death)
V31 NOW is being the judgement of that of this arranged world
See the word "now" being paralleled with world
Do you see the judgement of this now world?
He is throwing the ruler of this world out, together with this world, like it's garbage
Tasteless salt or thrown out. In the same way the arch ruler of this world is thrown out
If you love money, for ex, then you follow the devil and get thrown out with his rulership
I need to look forward to dying well
And John 12 will help you know how to beat your brain in the right shape to think right and thus die well in the end
If you're on Jesus' team and you die well then your death will produce more life for others
If you're not living everyday like that then it's questionable if you'll ever have the courage to die like that
It's talking about dying in an optimistical context -looking at the reward of saving others
Notice that something has especially happened against worldliness
The world would never be the same after Jesus intersects death to this now age.
Now that Jesus has condemned all sin in the flesh, the world has never been the same, and the new testament has been updated with a superior way of living, into the purpose of salvation for others and for your own soul too
John 12:43 the now age is about the glory of men
Let's pray for courage to escape the social pressures of this now age
Now you can obey hating all in the sinfulness of this world!
People always want to draw
back unto destruction, recoiling away from the hard sayings of the
Scriptures, by saying you can’t take it literally.
People act like if they
obey it literally then that means you are doing to be angry with your family
But he is literally saying
to hate your own soul (included soul) and that excludes emotional hatred
because he has chop off the emotional part of you that emotional hatred your family which means that you would have to be hating them in
an non-emotional sense
The very thing you are
afraid and complaining about is the very thing he has amputated from the
context of what he is talking about
Whoever talked about non
emotional hatred? That is a new concept actually
No man ever spoke like this
man
Jesus doesn’t use words like
everyone else, he is talking about something
specific/special you don’t already know about
When we talk about emotions
the Bible is talking about the soul
The reason people can’t understand
how to obey it literally because they are not doing the hating your own soul
part
But how are you supposed to
hate your soul when you are supposed to save it?
How am I supposed to hate
my soul when it is not just temporarily here ?
Disciple-Notes.htm#theWorldsSeason
Dying to the World’s Season
Shorten season
You need to die to your sadness
and you need to die to your happiness and this leads you to die to your
purchases
Not using it down means
being anti-consumptive
That of this world
is parallel to a shorten season
The arrange world has a
certain doom to it which is associated with a doom (temporary) time in history
World ≈ season
Sun 5:10pm(edited)
Die to the Now Age
You must
die to both sadness and happiness, rejecting the purchases and pleasures of
this passing, doomed world.
1Cor 7:29...
You need to die to your
sadness
You need to die to your
happiness
And this leads you to dying
to your purchases
Not "using it
down" means being anti-consumptive
"That of this
world" is paralleled with a shortened season
The arranged world has a
certain doom to it, and it is associated with a temporary doomed time in
history
If you are dying to the
"crying" of this life then you need to also die to the rejoicing of
this life (buying stuff and marriage is included)
If you don't die to/aren’t
in the posture of dying to the rejoicings of this life then you are not going
to be able to overcome the sorrows of this life
The Doomed Age vs. Perpetual Life
The
"now" age—temporary and evil—is passing away. It contrasts sharply
with eternal life, the age to come, which remains forever.
The world = sinful
here-n-now life = season = passing away (1John 2 cross ref)
The word "now" is
associated with a time or age where we are required to hate because it's evil
This is telling us to not
hold on to it, so don't hold on to it because it's passing away and is doomed
Contrasted with
"remaining into the perpetualness"
1Tim 4:8, 2Tim 4:10
This now life = this now
age
They both stand as
opposites to that which is about to be
The god of This Age
The devil
rules this evil age, blinding unbelievers. The time of this world is as bad as
it gets, destined for judgment and destruction.
2Cor 4:4
'The god of this age has
blinded the minds of unbelievers'
The time of this age is
possessed by the devil, as its god
Is it bad enough yet?
That's as bad as it's going to get
This is implicitly,
contextually directly contrasted with what is about to be
John 12:31
Sometimes a season of an
evil age is directly associated with "this world". And sometimes
"now" is associated with this world
Woes for This Worldly Now
Luke 6
condemns worldly laughter of this now age, standing in direct contrast to the
eternal joy of the coming life. Take this warning literally.
So when Luke 6 says
"woe to those who are laughing now...", then yes we ought to still
take that literally and continue to obey all the Bible
by concluding that those who are laughing according to this now age (i.e.
worldly laughter) will be condemned.
Now is talking in direct
contrast to eternal life (the age to come)
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Context: Now vs. Eternal
The Bible’s
hyper-contextual nature highlights contrasts like "now" versus the
eternal kingdom. Luke 6 condemns worldly laughter and fullness now, not all
laughter or abundance, as God’s future filling and joy are everlasting.
The Bible is dependent on
context. It is hyper contextual actually.
We can safely say, as those
obeying all the bible, that this is not talking about
all abundance filling and laughing. It is specifically talking about NOW, as
opposed to the kingdom of heaven coming. Luke 6 is not talking about any
laughter; he is talking about NOW laughter. Whatever laughter we can apprehend
from future kingdom laughter will never be lamented or taken away. As one
obeying all the bible, I am not allowed to say that
this is talking about all laughter.
Redeeming Time in Evil Days
Ephesians
5:16 urges wisdom in redeeming the season because the days are perverted—rooted
in the same word for the devil as "the evil one" in the Lord’s
Prayer.
Eph 5:16
Walk around not as unwise
but as wise, buying out the season (fig. redeeming the time) because the days are
being perverted evil (the same word to describe the devil in the Lord's prayer
- perverted one...it means bad, evil!)
Godly Fulfillment vs. Fleshly Filling
Luke 6
warns against being filled by the world, while Luke 1 and Matthew 5 promise
hope for the hungry and righteous who are filled by
God.
Luke 1:46-55 (God will fill
the hungry with good things) + Luke 6 (woe to those who are filled by the world
with worldliness) = Matt 5:6 (a hope of the righteous being filled)
There's a direct contrast
when God fills someone versus someone already being filled NOW by the means of
the flesh
Laughter That Lasts
Laughter
isn’t condemned but must arise from faith in God’s eternal goodness, not
fleeting worldly satisfaction that perishes with this age.
Laughing chronologically
now is ok, as long as you are reaching forward and your laughter is by faith in
the good that will come and remain.
But laughing in a way that
will die with the destruction of this world then that is the NOW laughter that
is bad
Are you laughing because
you're making yourself happy, or is God putting a smile on your face and making
you happy?
Die to Self-Indulgence
Righteousness
means dying to this age: sharing blessings, rejecting selfish indulgence, and
trusting in God’s ongoing provision rather than storing up for yourself
So the righteous can laugh
and even be filled and such...But the catch - die to this life, hate this age,
keep giving your bread away when God blesses you so that you don't cut off
supernatural provision
Don't store up for
yourself, and hold down tightly for yourself, and treat yourself, etc
Testing Your Laughter
Evaluate
the fruit of your laughter: does it draw you closer to God’s soundness,
reverence, and love, or erode your integrity and bring emptiness?
When you bow your knee in
prayer then you need to be close to what God is saying.
If you can't hear what God
is saying then reflect back on your day and repent of being fleshly. You've got
too much of this NOW life in between you and God, and you may have even laughed
at things or entertained the things of this temporary life that will be
destroyed.
Repent from the Fleshly Life
If you can’t hear God in prayer, reflect on your day, repent of indulging in fleeting worldly joys, and align yourself with the eternal.
Walk throughout your life and test your laughter:
What fruit does it bear?
Are you closer towards soundness? Are you closer to entering into being heard by God (thru your reverence and obedience- Heb 5:7; John 9:31 says that God doesn't hear sinners)? Are you closer to prophecy? Are you closer towards loving people?
Or do you keep jeopardizing & eroding your integrity? Are you closer towards emptiness at the end of the day? Or are you closer to letting out a sigh of relief and rejoicing at having been helped by God?
Prayer Through Obedience
Hearing God requires reverence and obedience (Hebrews 5:7), for God does not listen to sinners (John 9:31).
9/1/24; 11/21/24
-- Under Construction --
The shield of faith is putting 2 and 2 together. The Bible is not vague.
Vagueness leads to confusion. God is not the author of confusion. Wolves will
come in and try to rape the Scriptures by saying the Bible is vague and needs
to be interpreted by them. The wolves will usually be successful in raping
those who do not know how to obey the Scriptures.
If you say a passage of Scripture is subject to interpretation then you
are saying that the Scriptures are not Lord. You can’t go to heaven while
saying or implying that the Scriptures are Not Lord. Whenever you hear a
preacher saying something about the Bible and it sounds vague, then that is not
what the monotheistic Lord is saying.
The Bible is structured in such a way that you have to be spiritual and
thinking about it for a long time for you to truly understand it. Sir is teaching
from a morality way.
You have to cooperate with His generosity to receive His benefits. You
cannot oppose his character and receive his benefits
You have to give redemptive mercy in order to get redemptive mercy
Mat_5 give mercy
get mercy
Mat_6 give mercy
get rewarded and
Give forgiveness get
forgiveness
if you see continuity you get it,
if you don’t see continuity you don’t get it
This is not about nuclear disarmament. This is not a political gospel
that makes you feel good about your world or society. God does not love your
world; He hates your world and is going to destroy it. DO not love the world.
The new covenant is saving people not society.
He keeps telling you to hate money, don’t love it. This is getting you
ready to be ready for the end times. After reading Mat_6 then go read Rev_12
Tent of booth –
He keep saying don’t worry, hate money because he is getting you ready
to
The SOM is a condense blast of Jesus’ most condense sayings which he
repeats over and over again
Example: if you go to Luke you will hear him say no lights a lamp and
puts it under a basket then later he says no one lights a lamp and puts it into
a hidden place. If you are keeping up with him and
If you start counting by 2s from Luke chapter 4 onward then every single
2s have a statement about hating money and each of them expand on how to hate
money and it explains Mat_6. When you
ready Mat_6 you
The word of God is righteousness, and if you hunger and thirst for
righteousness you will be stuffed filled
For He is getting you ready to be the people who will jump in the
wilderness and get supernatural provision so you can be those people in
Revelation 12
This is the vain that connects you to the Jewish feast tent of booths
We are not Jewish so we are not required to do the physical
I need God to give it to me not me fight for it for myself.
In exodus he said let my people go so they may worship me in the
Wilderness. He didn’t say let them go so they can go to the promise land. He
was memorializing making a covenant with them and then taking them home “the
promise land” afterwards. Wilderness wondering is what prepares you to get
married to God!!!!
What does it mean to forsake all?
I gave up stuff then God gives. If you don’t keep forsaking things then
you can’t be his disciple. You better have a good reason for why you have
anything on the day of judgement. The ultimate goal of everything in your house
is to give it away.
Dying well is better than being born well; you need to be thinking about
how to get out of here without being destroyed in the process.
The Lord’s Prayer has seven commands. Why does God like the number 7?
Because it has a point to it, you have an even numbers on both sides and a 1 in
the middle.
You should do everything you can to start your prayers positively.
In the Lord’s Prayer he does not teach you to start off prayer asking
for forgiveness like the Baptist do by default because they are always sinning.
God does not intend for you to always be sinning.
The Lord’s Prayer starts off with 3 positive.
You name be holy-ified – this starts being holy-ified
when the 2 witness start plaguing the earth.
You Kingdom come your will be
done in the Heaven so also upon the earth-
The kingdom starts coming when the devil gets thrown down. It is not in
vain that he mentioned the prophets of old because there is a sense you are
like them and you are supposed to be living a persecuted like.
He is predicting
When you pray your will be done that is at your expense like Jesus
praying that in the garden in agony
Revelation 11 is very focus on martyrdom
It is connecting you with Israel’s past and its future
The 3 negatives
Forgive send away our sin/ temptation
Don’t lead us into temptation
Deliver us from the devil himself
Right in the middle – is asking for daily bread, like in the wilderness
when they only collected what was needed for that day and not extra for the
next day. Don’t worry about what you will eat or drink or what you will wear.
This is taught more and expanded upon in Luke
In Acts people were selling all they have and doing mercy.
How to live out Acts 4 and 5 – which is obeying Luke 12 to sell your
possession and give mercy alms
And Luk_14:25-35 -
You have to get discipleship (if available) to live it out
This is tying in with you being a poor crouching beggar
When you are rich you take care of yourself too much to prevent the
oscillation of life, so you don’t go through famine fasting and hunger. If you
are trying to stop yourself from the oscillation of life you are violating the
SOM. In the wilderness they had bread but they didn’t have meat. And when they
demanded meat they ate and died as lust mongers
SOM is teaching us to trust Him like grass and to trust Him like birds,
which means to you have to be willing to hunger and fast. A person can make God
happier than a bird and grass of the field. Therefore He wants to do more
provision to us than the birds and the grass. He gives and He takes away, but
blessed be the name of the Lord. Like Job did
The creator designed our body to fast. I trust God to bring me through
abundance and famine. I have learnt to be abase and
abound
Most fleshly people want to get over their traumatic seasons and times of
scarcity but God memorialized it and cherished it. He loves them trusting Him
for their daily bread
9/1/24
AlSun_5:52pm
HATING MONEY
Sirach says 'alms dissolves your sins'
[Sirach 3; Sirach 4; Sirach 12; Sirach 29]
Jesus gives a parable about a man being forgiven like a million dollars but then he can't be merciful and give away like $1K to his fellow man. This in turn results in that man not ending up forgiven
Jesus says blessed are the merciful cuz they will receive mercy in Mat 5, and then in Mat 6 he gives illustrations (and fulfillments) of what giving mercies looks like (i.e. giving alms to the poor)
Therefore, forgiving people and giving away alms (money, riches, gifts that are not tithes) will cause you to be forgiven and mercied by Heaven
Mat 5 give mercy and get mercy
Mat 6 give mercy and get rewarded
Mat 6 give forgiveness and get forgiveness (forgive people and you get forgiven)
You can't earn your salvation. It's too expensive. But you do have to cooperate with his generosity. You cannot oppose his character AND receive his benefits.
Btw, whenever Bible verses seem very vague then that's because you're not treating those verses like a Lord
The Bible is very logical
It's just doesn't think like natural man thinks
And if you can read correlations then you might be having some sort of real understanding
But if you can't see how things relate then you don't understand
Forgiving people is not about nuclear disarmament
This is the New Covenant
This is not a political maneuver to save society
This is about saving individuals
Stop looking at society and trying to save it with a monotheistic gospel. The New Covenant has moved on. We are not doing that anymore right now. Instead God is "going to teach every man his neighbor"
Jesus spends half of Mat 6 (mercies, the Lord's prayer, and fastings) gearing you up to be the people of the end times wandering in the wilderness (who hate money and are not worried)
The children of Israel want to move on and get over that "traumatic time" of past scarcity in the wilderness. God held on to it, and cherished it, and memorialized it, and plans to do it yet again.
Revelation 12 is about the Feast of Booths
This is whats being memorialized in the Sermon on the Mount
Jesus is seeking to get you ready to jump out of this worldly, frantic, money loving, anxiety riden mess, and run to God in the wilderness to be provided for, awaiting your salvation which is near at hand.
Matt 6 is the road to the 2 witnesses, it is to connect you to Revelation 12
Even though we are not Jewish, but thank God he is connecting us,through Mat 6, to observe this spiritual phenomena of the Feast of Booths
Btw, see how Moses focused on saying 'let my people go so that we can go worship God on the mountain'. He didn't focus on going to conquer the land of Canon but on that holy mountain. Why?? When you observe the feast of booths you are memorializing, not the conquest of canon, but the wilderness wanderings and that mountain where God makes a marriage covenant with them and prepares to bring them home into the promised land.
If you read Mat 6 and you understand what it's saying and why He keeps harping on don't worry, then you will have spiritual ears and eyes to see that he is getting you ready to learn to be provided for in the wilderness, and to pass the test unlike those who wandered in the wilderness the first time under the old covenant
Matt 4:4 and Luke 4:4 man will not live off of bread alone but in every word of God
Mat 6 he teaches to pray for your daily bread
From Luke 4-18, every 2 chapters says something significant about money. When you string these statements together then all of them help explain what Matthew is saying in Matthew 6
(Btw, the Sermon on the Mount is a condensed blast of Jesus' most famous sayings, which he replies on multiple occasions)
AlSun 5:52pm
Think like this- God will provide, God is the one who exalts, give and God will give
You need to connect to the right God cuz he's going to give you everything you need (a real, moral, useful need)
To be a disciple you need to be in a posture of continually giving and being given to by God
Don't try to hold on to anything, unless God gave it to you to temporarily steward
Once something becomes a treasure FOR YOURSELF then your soul is in danger
You better have a good reason before heaven of why you have what you have (do you have a real, moral, useful need of it?)
It's not the beginning of a better that is most glorious but the end of a matter. You need to be tailoring your life to get ready to jump into the wilderness.
You don't say I'm ready to start life now and be successful; you say I need to get a good exit strategy of this life. You need to be thinking about how to get out of this life and not get destroyed by luxury.
The Lord's prayer is referring to patterns that prepares us for the end times.
You're praying to live a spiritual representation of what's coming in the future.
The New Covenant people are supposed to be like the old covenant prophets.
One of the ways to be like the prophets is you're supposed to be living a gentile version (i.e. spiritual representation) of the Feast of Booths that predict the future. Predict the future by the spiritual hope that your living out.
Remember how God told certain prophets to lay on their sides and bear the sins of the people?
Jesus tells us to do some things that sounds kinda weird, like hate money for example. You're participating in prophecy!
The Lord's prayer has 7 parts. It's an odd number, which is exactly what you need for a chiastic structure (a point in the middle and an even number of things on one side and an even number of things on another side). Why does God like the number 7? Because it has a point to it
Our Father the One in the heavens...
By default you should be starting off your day and your prayers positively (NOT negatively)! As positively as you can (unless of course here is a snarling dragon in your face (i.e. spiritual warfare).
Praying for God's name to be holified is praying for the power of the end times to come upon us.
Power starts coming before the arrival of the kingdom.
Your will be done- when you're praying "your will be done" this is at your expense. Remember Jesus in the garden, whether by life or death he insisted, through sweating drops of blood, that God's will be done. It's a sacrificial prayer, yielding the outcome to a faithful Creator.
Ask for your daily needs
And then afterwards you ask God to help you deal with the 3 negatives (our sins, our temptation, and the devil himself)
Again, the Lord's prayer prepares us for the end times:
Let your name be holified - this is indeed climatically fulfilled with the 2 witnesses
Your kingdom come- with power from people like the 2 witnesses
Your will be done- even at the expense of martyrdom. The book of Revelation is very focused on martyrdom
Give us this day our daily bread - he is connecting you in with the end times (the wilderness wanderings with manna). Conquer now the lust for here-n-now luxuries.
Deliver us from the perverted One, the devil himself - the end times is heavy with pressure from evil to deny the truth, sin, apostate, etc
AlSun 5:54pm(edited)
For reciprocating riches:
Living out Acts 4 and 5
The New Covenant ideal dynamic is that the community has all things in common and no one said anything was their own. At the same time Peter does not helicopter people over this but rather he gives lawful room for the things that are yours/in your jurisdiction to be in your discretion. This shows that there is a strong emphasis on WILLINGNESS in this Covenant (willing cheerful "hilarious" giving -2 Cor 9:7)
It is our ambition to have the same conscience and to determine what luxury is.
You have to get discipleship where it's available, which includes obeying Luke 14 to forsake all, and Luke 12 to sell all and give alms. You do need to get discipleship to live all that out.
When you're rich you're taking care of yourself too much so that you can prevent the osscilations of life, so that you don't go through famine, fastings, and hunger. You just have this mentality of God up and stay up. You do not know who God is. And you're going to die a lust monger and be buried in the spiritual graves of lusts when you violate the Sermon on the Mount to not worry.
Trust him like grass. Trust him like birds. That includes a willingness to trust him in fastings and famine. The Psalms say he opens his hand and the animals are glad, and he closes it and they are troubled.
He gives and he takes away, but what are you supposed to do? Bless the name of the Lord.
The Creator designed our bodies to fast. Consider how the body knows how to convert fat to energy...
The Creator did not design us to eat and be full all the time. Doesn't nature itself teach you? You do not require a streak of "enoughness".
When you're learning to rejoice in what's good for you, that means you learn for your stomach to be hungry. The fleshball is grumpy and complains when their stomach is hungry.
The way that you get supernatural provision is by saying, "Im ok to be without". If you live a life of luxury and always in abundance and taking care of yourself then why would God want to give you anything? Why would angels fight to bring anything to you?
He is really eager to reward us but we need to cooperate with his hand of provision.
The point is to put you in a posture of a poor crouching beggar.
Whatever He has not given me, I want to max out on whatever poverty I can.
Grow where you're planted and embrace wherever your poverty is.
You keep giving so that God keeps rescuing you.
You work hard. And you work for abundance to take care of other people, NOT to please yourself and live in comfort. You need to give heaven a reason to keep blessing you and proving for you.
No one would despise someone for spending money to buy a specialized vehicle to bring food and water to starving people in Africa. Well, your body is the most specialized equipment that exists. If you're going to use your body to help people, then know that your body is the most specialized equipment you can use. So spending money to make it functional for others is good. By default it is lawful to spend all you have to fix your body. It is also commendable to pluck out your own eyes to give to another (Galatians 3?). But in general, the Bible does support the principle of making yourself enabled to help other people.
Do take care of your body by default. Unless you are told otherwise.
He ate, he drank, and he got up to do righteousness (Jeremiah 22:15)
It's lawful and good and ordained by God to take care of yourself, and to eat and drink what you need, and then to get up and do righteousness.
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9/2/24
Monday, September 2nd 2024
AlMon 8:27am
Been thinking about End Times...
Thank you lord Sir for special, privileged words into our ears
yesterday!
HdMon 8:35am
aww Thanks :+)
AlMon 8:37am(edited)
Been thinking about how to live as the
prophets, who did prophetic things that spoke of the future (like lying on
their sides, or tieing girdles around them, or eating
locusts & honey, etc). And how we ourselves can now have a mentality that prepares for
& testifies of the wilderness, so that even if we ourselves don't get to
flee into the wilderness, we can be serving those who are up and coming after
us. And that's like the prophets too! Whose writings and actions weren't
serving themselves but for us now (1Pet 1:12). We also, either we're going to
be those who actually get to literally physically flee into the wilderness to
the mountain of God, or, even if we don't see all the fulfillments come upon us
in our lifetime, we can live to serve those after us; and our obedient
prophetic lives, with and without words, will still speak even after we're
gone, and testify and encourage those who will be, just like Abel whose life
& blood still speaks. And all of us, both the prophets before us, and us
now, and those to come, are not made perfect without each other.
haMon 11:00am
Yes that's exciting : )
AlMon 1:39pm
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9/15/24
Disciple-Notes.htm#LordsEndtimesPrayer
If you don’t hate money then you’re going to be like Lot’s wife.
Being fully invested in what God is doing right now is what it means to
bring fully loaded faith.
Find out what God is doing right now and be fully invested not like
church people who sit back and let the pastor do all the work. Church people
are lazy and do not involve themselves because their conscience know that is
not what God is doing right now, therefore it is empty and not worth investing
in.
The Bible commands you to be involve and bring something 1Co_12 and14
People who are lazy in churchianity have a conscience that doesn’t
believe what they are doing, that is why they leave it to the pastor.
People who are lazy in the context of being around the truth have a
seared conscience.
You are supposed to be living an inspired life, and this will take you
into the end times.
Live a prophetic life to where you’re testifying of end times/
Live a meaningful life by knowing what God is currently doing, and be
fully persuaded (like Hebrews says – carrying fully loaded faith), and be fully
invested in the monotheism that God is doing upon the earth.
Your life is meaningful when you’re doing what God is doing.
When God makes a woman pregnant out of wedlock then you want to be
Mariam or Elizabeth, etc
When he is about to bring a flood then you want to be Noah chopping away
on the ark.
When God is upgrading his covenant terms then you want to be the
apostles announcing and writing down His new and revealed oracles.
If He is multiplying food then you want his to take your fish.
If you propose something and we find that it is accurately describing
the universe or the world or the bible, etc, then
because it is a theory of everything we put it to the test and see if it can
predict what we don’t see.
If you keep putting something up against a test, and that test keeps
working, then you are scientifically required to believe its “true”
If you describe it accurately, then you will be able to predict accurately, and thus you will be able to prescribe
accurately.
End times references
Mat_6:9 asking for Gods name and reputation to be redeemed
We are in an apostasy, and Gods name does need to be holy-ified. Therefore you are requesting that something happens
in the future. And for us, it only climactically happens in the end times.
Gods name was holy-ified in the early church.
But especially since Catholic type influences Gods name has been blasphemed.
And we don’t get any indication that Gods name will be redeemed until
Revelation 11
2Pe_2:2 – the way of Truth will be blasphemed
Therefore Gods
reputation needs to be redeemed, and that’s what the Lord’s prayer is
requesting.
V10
Your kingdom come – that only happens one time. Think, Revelation.
Directly after the 2 witnesses are demanding repentance and such, Gods kingdom
comes.
V11
Daily bread ≈ manna, which happened in the wilderness
V13
Being rescued from the Devil climatically happens in the end times
V16
Fasting which no doubt
climatically happens in the wilderness
And don’t forget that 2 chapters previous to
Matt 6 Jesus was in the wilderness and fasting and there was a discussion about
bread. Jesus was praying that the Father would provide bread.
In the wilderness the devil tempts Jesus to turn the stones into bread.
“If you are the son of God…” – the devil was tempting Jesus based on his own
independent divinity. He didn’t say, “if you trust God…”.
He said “if you are the son of God…”. He’s tempting
Jesus to step out and take matters into your own hands and act independent of
what God wants to do at that time. The devil points things to Jesus, but Jesus
points things to God. Jesus dies to bread and then he teaches us to point to
God and puts things back in God’s hand by saying ‘You Father gives us our daily
bread’. And then angels came and ministered to him.
You fast, God provides. And that’s how you get supernatural provision.
When you don’t fast then you are relying on the power of money and
wealth to get by.
The preceding authoritating governing context…
If you do the true fast, mentioned in Isa_58, it includes giving your
bread to the poor, doing justice, breaking yoke, etc. All of
which Matt 4 and such highlights. And THEN the Lord will shine on you
and provide.
If you do enough secret fasting then you will participate in the
corporate fast of jumping out of the harlot and being in the wilderness in the
end times.
V19
Don’t arrange away and store up treasures for yourself on the dirt.
Don’t take valuables and put it on dirt. If you don’t pile up stuff on dirt
then it does not get dirty.
If you build anything in Egypt then you’re going to lose it. Because
Egypt is paralleled with Sodom
The fact that the children of Israel were detached from Egypt then their
very sandals didn’t wear out. They were not attached to the land. They were
wandering on the desert land. And because they were detached from Egypt, their
sandals didn’t wear out. The moth and the rust didn’t destroy. This is a
supernatural provision context.
Over and over in Revelation it is teaching that there is homelessness
for the righteous. They dismount and are not allowed to attach to the land.
If you leave Egypt then your very sandals are going to experience
supernatural provision.
The land is defiled by innumerable, immeasurable injustices that have
soaked into the earth. And it cries out against men. The defilement of the land
oozes out and envelopes all the possessions and such of men, and corrodes it.
Don’t be lustful and foolish and cleave to this stuff! But if you detach
yourself then you set yourself up for supernatural provision, and for eating
from God’s garden when he causes “the desert to blossom”
Individually fast and forsake all now so that you can corporately
forsake all later and be provided for as the people of God. Do your part now so
that you can be counted worthy to participate & inherit with his people
later.
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The pessimism against the land in Mat_6: ≈ The
pessimism against the land when the righteous are detached from it in the end
times in Rev_11 – 12
Supernatural Provision = Hating Luxury & Worry
Rejecting Luxury to
Embrace True Righteousness
You need to vomit out the garbage so you can hunger and thirst for real righteousness of food
If you
stop liking luxury you will likely stop having fleshly temptation
A lot
of pastor (prosperity preachers) have mistaken supernatural provision with God
wants me to be rich. Supernatural includes times of scarcity built into it and
times of abundance. Being rich means you never have to have a low point which
is dangerous. Jesus intentionally chose times of scarcity while the children of
Israel refuse it and complained against it
The
root is a hidden source which could eventually cause a
certain type of fruit, it could be subterranean and you might not know it and
that is why it is a trap.
The Biblical Call to
Reject Wealth and Love of Money
OT vs. NT on being rich –
[Paul & John: it’s passing away]
The Hebrew include gathering and working and being happy with that
It can include the idea of gathering / working being happy from gathering
The Greek it comes from being full. It has a very strong aspect of abundance i.e. having more than you need (fill to over flowing)
Again reminder the OT did have rich people including rich righteous people and the NT came along and updated it.
When Jesus says woe to the rich he is not drawing off of the Hebrew part that you work really hard he is against the Greek part where you are stuff full from all the money you have
The point now is we are commanded to hate money more than ever
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GPT – compulsive rephrasing of the disciple notes [even when told not to]
The Old Testament (OT) and New
Testament (NT) offer contrasting views on wealth—where the OT allows for
righteous riches, the NT calls for caution, with Paul and John describing worldly
wealth as “passing away.” While Hebrew scripture includes gathering and being
content with work, the Greek concept centers on fullness and abundance, a
warning Jesus addresses in His “woe to the rich.” Jesus’ teaching urges us to
hate money, moving beyond the OT’s acceptance of wealth to a stricter NT stance
on material possessions.
Distinguishing Provision from Riches
Many prosperity preachers misinterpret supernatural
provision as an endorsement of wealth. True provision includes both scarcity
and abundance; constant abundance, or wealth, is spiritually dangerous. Jesus
embraced scarcity while Israel resisted it, highlighting how an unchecked
desire for wealth can subtly lead to spiritual ruin, like a trap with hidden
roots bearing corrupt fruit.
The Trap of Liking Money
The love of money is warned against in 1 Timothy 6.
This isn’t just about loving money explicitly but also includes liking it or
feeling satisfied by it. Paul warns that even a “warm liking” (philao) of money is spiritually hazardous. This aligns with
Jesus’ warnings about lust, equating the desire for wealth with lustful
admiration. Just as a man must reject lustful admiration of a woman to avoid
defilement, Christians must actively abhor money to avoid its trap. If wealth
brings us more joy than its absence, we may already be ensnared.
Faithfulness Over Ownership
Luke 16 advises using unrighteous wealth to make friends who can receive us in
eternal dwellings—referring to heavenly beings and righteous individuals. Money
is a transient resource to manage faithfully, not something to hoard as if it
belonged to us. If we cling to it as ours, we’re ensnared by the same trap that
entrapped the Pharisees, who valued silver and mocked Jesus’ teaching,
revealing a divided loyalty to God and mammon.
Signs of Trapped Wealth Pursuits
Seeking wealth can reveal itself in pride,
unforgiveness, or hurriedness to avoid life’s slower rhythms. Prosperity
teaching, like the pursuit of wealth, produces behavior contrary to the “safe
words” of Jesus that bring peace. Faithful management, deep satisfaction in
spiritual things, and resisting materialism align us more closely with Christ’s
teaching on wealth and foster a truly righteous life, free from the traps of
earthly riches.
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1Ti_6
Church people will never stop saying you don’t need to hate money it is about the heart. The church person says you can be rich as long as your heart doesn’t love money. Jesus says you can’t be rich.
This is one of the most anti-money chapters in the Bible but church use it to say it is ok to like money as long as you don’t love it.
He is teaching Jesus’ doctrine of hating money
There is a moral tangible way to hate money
The point is to hate money.
Minding /thinking to gain useful things, to gain furnishings
1Ti_6:9 – those wanting to be rich = those strategically/counseling/planning/wanting to go about being full/abundant
Full/rich (1Ti_6:9) ≈ woe to the rich/full (Luk_6:20-26)
It does not say those who are careful when they are rich won’t fall or those who are reckless will fall. It says if you are counseling to do fullness you are falling. There are things happening simultaneously. Fullness and falling happen side by side you can’t escape it? It is a trap that means you do not know what is happening to you!
Why is it a problem to be brainless?
Because God has ordain for you to hear the word of God through your brain and conform your life likewise
Destruction is the abyss that leads into hell, which is why in Revelation it says there is an angel over the abyss that leads down to Apoleon.
The Love of money is a root of all evils
Temptation (1Ti_6:9) = Lord’s prayer
Doing strategic-fullness = falling
However those counseling to be doing fullness are falling into going through a trial of temptation = a trap
Church people say you can like money as long as you don’t love it. They are guilty even if they don’t know Greek they are guilty because Jesus explicitly say to hate it!
Philao is warm happy fondness
That is why when Jesus said to Peter do you love (agape, seriously love you) me? and Peter says Lord you know Philao (I like happy warm feeling) you
Warming liking of (Philao) silver
If you get happy when you see money you are falling into a trap
Money is offering an appearance of value to you. When you see something at face value and you take it you are liking it
When Paul is telling you that warm liking of money sends you to hell he is directly telling you to hate money.
Paul makes a link with the lust of money with the lust of a woman..
If a man looks at a woman and does not abominate the beauty prostitution murder, he will be defiled by her because he is presented with something that looks like something of value to him. He needs to viciously push back and abominate it, so he doesn’t heat up in lust from her
Lust includes admiring and be modify by it.
If you are more happy looking at money than not looking at it then you are in a trap.
Hating money is the direct opposite to liking silver. If you like money you go to hell.
Luk_16 you need to make for yourself friends with people who have the authority to welcome you into paradise (these friends include angels)
You want to get faithful with little not hoard a bunch of money
Unrighteous money is a lie and you need to be faithful with the little money so you can be trusted with the real treasure in heaven
The steward was managing money than did not belong to him and he used that to gain friends
So you have money that does not belong to you and so it will be taken away from you so you need to use it to make friends that can take you in.
If you believe the money you have is your own, you are already in a trap.
The Pharisee were mocking him because they were warm liking silver. Therefore they despise God and are serving mammon and hating God
He is contrasting hating money with the Pharisees that liked silver
When we still are tempted to be rich when:
We rush around and paying to not slow down
Having trouble forgiving someone
Puffed up with pride
Assuming non inspiration
Healthy safe, non-sick words of Jesus are not going to make you have dark circles around your eyes.
You need to get deep satisfaction with hating money.
Blind (1Ti_6:4) ≈ a trap (1Ti_6:9) ≈ deceived/strayed (1Ti_6:10)
Saying enough (1Ti_6:6, 1Ti_6:8) ≈ enough nasty evil (Mat_6:)
Puffed with blinding smoke pride, and doing other
Teachings (1Ti_6:4)
Words of Jesus (1Ti_6:3)
v.4 seeking questions includes Greek philosophers skeptics like in 1Co_2
Epistemology is talking about knowledge in the Bible what you know
Other teaching generates bad behavior
Just like loving money /liking silver generates destruction
Other teaching including prosperity gospel of nice furnishing produces bad behavior
If I already have comfort
from the money that means I’m missing out on the comfort that comes from God
and his kigdom that is coming in he
future
The idea of already having
your reward is in the sense of premature previliges
through similar crossreferense
He concluded a 3 part woe
with the word now
When those nice-sits are
tied in with the now age – whose God is the devil,
where the time is evil
If you are laughing with
the things of the here and now life
If anything you take
pleasure in stops when this age stops you are dwho
with this life to the same degree you indulged
Everything you do, whether
you eat or drink or wear etc better be because God
commanded it
You should celebrate when
you can eat food when God can do that in the same way in eternal life
This is exactly why Paul
said
if you eat or drink doing it all to the glory of God… and in
the name of Jesus Anointed One
Isa_66: Jewish feasts are
fulfilled in the Kingdom of God
Eating the way God has
commanded is NOT part of this now age, but of the age to come in the new
heavens and new earth, which is all under the rule of the Kingdom of God
There is an escape for the
dreaded condemnation of the here and now age.
…
The Point: Hopefully now we know that this “Now” is the Time (or
“age”) to Hate Money, so that we can inherit the next age
11/24/24
Jesus’ words are so hardcore that it is even mentally challenging academically for us to understand what we are supposed to do with the Words.
The conventional solution or response has been to try to change the Bible which is hypocrisy/blasphemy/apostasy/rebellion
Any JC that is not the Bible is antichrist. The Bible in its original essense is Jesus
>>Scrip:
The Scripture cannot be broken
Let God be true and every man a liar
The word Jesus spoke will judge you on the last day
The scandal of Jesus has not only scandal hypocrites in our day but it has scandal people who seem to be real brother and sisters
If you do not do something to submit to these hard verses you will apostate from whatever you have
Sinning against the Bible includes the sinning that hardens you like what the Bible warns you against
Wisdon literature in the Bible means you obey it until you understand it and that pre-suppose that you believe in its track record
We owe a tremdous debt from how evil our flesh is when we trevilize how evil we are then we cros examine the Scriptures
In Luk_16:13 hate and despise and love and hold loyal to are pointing in the other direction
What does it mean to hate money and why hate it in the first place?
You are a worker of injustice because you are not strong enough to enter into that door
Whatever the case I got to be last
You are not suppose to understand these words in this flesh
Joh_6 we know you have the word of life
Luke 13 storng enough to go through the door gate, Luk_6:strong enough
Key word stragetic counsel
You can only hear if you can hear
Can you see from these passages that you need to be last somehow you need to hate your family memebers
Somehow you need to arrange your begginging under substances
To enter into the narrow gates and be Jesus’ disciples
Being last would be poor humble losing out in this life the least honored in a company of people
As soon as you lose perpective of what is spiritual then even the assembly can be the world.
You are being looked at by God the devil, the angels a great cloud of witness
If it was just the heavenly Jerusalem you would not need headcovering but
The instant the flesh recognizes then you are dealing with the world/men
What sets the stage for the context of this passage is that great multitudes were following him….
Parallels with many will seek to enter in
To the degree that
11/24/24
AlSun 5:31pm
Jesus' words in Luke is so
hard core that it's actually challenging to know what he even wants you to do, cuz it can be so overthrowing.
It's mentally challenging
to acedemically understand what we're supposed to do
with his words
You have hating money,
hating people (from him who told us to love even our enemies)...in the book of
Luke
The conventional response
and solution is to try to change the Bible, which is
hypocrisy/blasphemy/apostasy/rebellion
You're not making Jesus
Lord of nothing if you're trying to change the Bible
And Jesus said that if you unlordify the Scriptures then you are a hypocrite
The Bible is Jesus (the
Word of God)
And changing the Bible is
not going to work
Jesus said he scriptures cannot be broken
Let God be true and every
man a liar. Even if the Bible seems to call me a liar then that's very much a
possibility; but it is impossible for God to be called a liar.
The scandal of Jesus has
not only scandaled hypocrites in our day but it has scandaled people who have otherwise seemed to be real
brothers and sisters
If you don't do something
to submit to the "hard verses" then you will become bad and apostate.
'Even what one seems to have will be taken away from him'
Luke 6
Woe to you who are filled
now - does that mean I should never eat unto being full?
Woe to you who laugh now-
does that mean that I should never laugh?
Luke might be declaring
what Jesus initially spoke to the crowds ('many crowds were following him')
In the Matthew accounts
there is more explanation to Jesus' own disciples on the side
Wisdom literature in the
Bible says that you obey it before you understand it, and that presupposes that
you believe what you heard first
Luke 13:22-
Are there few who are
saved?
V24 you need to agonize and
be strong enough to enter into
V27 Workers of injustice
are not strong enough to enter into the door
V30 the only hope in this passage
is that whatever happens you better be counted as the "LAST" who will
be first
Luke 14:25-35
V27 not doing powerful
ability to be his disciples
Luke 16:13-
Hate & despise vs Love
& hold loyal to
Can you see from these
passages that you need to be last? (Poor, humble, missing out on this life, the
least exalted in the world)
Somehow you need to hate
your family members
Somehow you need to hate
money
Somehow you need to arrange
away all your substance to be counted as his disciple
Hardcore Luke, Mystery Obedience, “Hate” Required to Be
Saved
Luke especially has more
hard core statements of Jesus than the rest of the Bible.
They are so hardcore it is
even hard for the righteous to obey them even when they want to.
This dynamic is actually
part of the gospel, like gospel of Luke for example to leave you hanging on
issues of salvation
Church gives you messages
of salvation assurance, there is a place for a type of assurance but church
people are violating the mystery of salvation that Jesus and Paul and others as
well warn us not to intrude upon
Violating a mystery
includes places like 11Ti_3 when talking about the requirements of the overseer
and deacon servant. The deacon servant is supposed to hold onto the mystery of
the faith /truth with a pre conscience without violating it
That doesn’t mean there is no
answer to the mystery it teaches us that the flesh cannot carry its intuitions
into violating that mystery
If Jesus says to hate your
money and even your family it doesn’t matter if flesh groans in darkness and
complains that that doesn’t make sense because the truth has already declare
the holiness of Jesus hardcore statements to be mysterious
Complaining is begging the
question and you are not allowed to be illogical as a human.
So church is giving you
salvation assurance while Jesus is leaving salvation issues hanging so that
something in you that doesn’t happen in church where salvation never ceases to
be an issue. The false prophets are saying peace, peace where there is no
peace. Salvation and peace and synonymous in the Bible
If the gospels leave
salvation issues an issue we need to say yes Lord, even if you don’t understand
When someone says he
didn’t really mean that, that actually shows that they are not saved. They
are violating the mystery and they are not making Jesus their Lord
Luke is the hardcore
gospel, and there is still a lot of questions need to be answered
Sun 5:44pm(edited)
If the Gospels leave
salvation issues a mystery, then to obey that mystery we need to say "yes
Lord", even if we don't understand
Does "woe to
laughing" exclude the possibility that God could give you good laughter?
Hate family...?
Hate & despise
money...?
Jesus said you're bad if
you are filled now
Paul said that at times
he's been filled
What do we conclude from
this? Not that Jesus thinks that Paul is bad. Paul himself said that for was
happy with him, as with a pleasing aroma
Scripture References:
Isa 65:15-15
PSA 37:29
PSA 112:1-3
Isa 32:17
Luke 12:31-34
Mar 10:29-30
1Co 3:21-23
Everything you do better be fruitful unto God. If it is fruitful
then it will remain into the perpetual age, and it will not be considered as
part of the "now" age (i.e. woe to those who laugh NOW).
Whatever you say, eat, wear, do, buy, etc, better be
fruitful unto God
Obeying God's commands are
not apart of this now age because the heavens &
earth will pass away but his words WILL NOT
So yay, there is an escape
for the dreaded condemnation of this now age!
Your conscious nagging
you is a plea to get poor
If your flesh has un-crucified
strongholds in you then it bothers you
Your body is in the shape
of sin and it should be dismantled to the point of not even working
Your body is the temple
of Anointed One
God cares about the
redemption of the body therefore [you need to make it holy], so that your body
can be an acceptable temple for the one spirit who is holy [and so that it will
be resurrected to live forever]
If your body still have
the shape of sin and hasn’t been dismantled in this way then it can be awaked
to lust in this way whether sexual or luxury sin
Therefore your conscious
with the divine awareness from Anointed One will nag you until you change
Don’t stop your conscious
from nagging you by drowning it out by entertainment.
Entertainment numbs and drowns
what God and monotheism awaken and sharpen
You never put
entertainment upstream in your life instead entertainment needs to be
downstream
That’s why you need to
think right when you wake up in the morning, and ask yourself “how can I be
less consumptive?”
When you consume more
than you should you will have a troubled conscious
If anything is wasted in
your life… [a working conscience will testify against
you]
Your flesh has a
stronghold; you might not be sinning but you need to pull it down
If you press into
intensively embracing extremist flesh crucifying Scriptures
sufficiently/completely it is encouraging, if you neglect it then it is
discouraging
The flesh cannot be
extreme like the monotheist Scriptures call us to be
Mat_5:27-30 – quoting it
every day is encouraging
Monotheism is not there
to coward back unto destruction but to press forward unto a more complete
victory
If you will beg God
enough then you will start honoring the righteous more because you know they
have the answer, and your flesh is stubbornly against that
-- Under Construction --
The Danger of
Trivializing Sin
Beware to not trivialize your sin, don’t underestimate how much your flesh contributes to your own problems.
Church Flesh today is not even caught up to the honest confession of Aken, who died for his sin.
Morning Reflections
on Responsibility
When you wake up in the morning your first response needs to be: how can I be less consumptive, how can I be more humble, how can I prioritize the hard worker,
Owning Up to Sin
how can I own up to my sin more, I am my worst enemy and am responsible for the most evil in my life to date. Don’t trivialize your sin.
Tremble Before God
for Redemption
Find out how you can find ways to be on your knees trembling before God asking for redemption. How can I get the Truth to the people across the world begging for Truth and dying in their sin.
Fear Taking What’s
Forbidden
You better be afraid when you take when you shouldn’t take. -- see: Didache
Good Intentions
Aren’t Enough
You can still be disposable even with good intentions.
-- Under Construction --
Sun 5:37pm
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GPT title addition, the
original is below
Humanity’s Struggle with Goodness
The goodness of gold reflects
humanity's challenge to handle God's good gifts responsibly, waiting for full
restoration through Christ.
Borrowing God’s Goodness
Sirach 39 reminds us that
humanity, once good, now borrows God’s goodness until ultimate redemption after
probation.
Adam’s Failure, Our Responsibility
Adam and Eve failed,
leaving us responsible for restoring goodness through faith and obedience.
Goodness for the Believing Righteous
Numbers 14 shows the promised land intended for the faithful, but humanity’s sin
thwarted its goodness.
Premature Exploitation of Good
Genesis 3-4 illustrates
humanity’s misuse of good things, leading to thorns and worsening corruption.
From Good to Evil Desires
Genesis 6 depicts the sons
of God turning good beauty into temptation, repeating the cycle of sin.
Plundering Egypt with Purpose
Exodus 12 reveals God’s
favor in Israel plundering Egypt, preparing for a marriage covenant at Sinai.
Golden Calf: Goodness Defiled
Exodus 32 shows gold, once
a blessing, becoming an abomination when Israel sins with it.
Burning Bush to Burning Mountain
Exodus charts the journey
from God's revelation at the burning bush to Israel’s rebellion with the golden
calf.
Forced Acknowledgment of Evil
Moses made Israel drink
their idol’s ashes, confronting the evil they made of their wealth.
The Stinking Idolatry of Gold
Deuteronomy 7 emphasizes
God's hatred for idolatrous gold, illustrating how sin corrupts good things.
Anathema: Devoted for Destruction
The term “anathema” signifies
cursed items destined for destruction unless redeemed for God’s use.
Hypocrisy of Loving Money
Church
teachings that minimize money's evil contrast sharply with the Bible’s call to
hate sin-stained wealth.
Lessons from Israel’s Failure
Paul uses Israel’s downfall
to teach the doctrine of sin, calling us to reject love for defiled riches.
Extremes Reveal Moral Rules
Moral extremes, like
anathematized money, teach universal principles about sin and goodness.
Money’s Defilement and Redemption
Anathematized money teaches
us to hate sin-stained wealth and use resources only for God’s glory.
Serving God with All Blessings
Devote every
blessing—money, beauty, knowledge, and strength—to building God’s kingdom.
Flesh’s Contribution to Ruin
Recognize how much your
flesh worsens your problems, contributing to sin and failure.
Morning Pleas for Humility
Begin each day asking how
to be less consumptive, more humble, and more faithful in serving others.
Wake Up to Responsibility
Admit your sin, stop blaming
others, and own up to your responsibility for the world’s evil.
Daily Choices with Eternal Impact
Luxury denies the needs of
the poor; judgment will reveal the consequences of selfish indulgence.
Begging as Morning Discipline
Humble yourself daily in
prayer, crying out for righteousness and wisdom to meet others’ needs.
Prioritize True Virtue
Reject superficial
self-congratulations; seek righteousness and genuine virtue through God’s
pleasure.
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The goodness of gold is
about humanity's struggle to do good with the good
things that God gave to them
It started good, but it has
gone bad for now, and we are waiting for God to make it good again through
Jesus; so in the meantime, we are not willing to say that it is pleasant in our
sight, by default.
Sir 39 good things were
originally created for good people
People used to be good
Now we can borrow God's
goodness to participate in God's goodness, to partake of any good things,
through his mercy
We await a day where we are
not just borrowing God's goodness, but we will be entirely good again, actually
fully partaking of it after graduating from our human probation
Adam and Eve failed, and
now the ball is in our court to stop failing
Numbers 14 the good promised land was intended for the believing righteous
God's children were
supposed to be good
All of the references of
good in Genesis 3 are describing an exploitation of good, by a premature I
diligence before graduating probation
Gen 3 &4
The same land that grew
good fruit is now giving thorns
And things just take a
nosedive and get worse
Gen 6
At first reading the
ignorant church person sees discontinuity, but when you're morally educated you
see and excellence of unity and continuity
God's sons saw that the
daughters of men were good beautiful
We got
to ask ourselves if there are any times where we are tempted to turn good
things into bad things?
The money has gone from
good to evil, and so has the beauty of the rich prostitute who has sinned in
order to get it.
Exo 12
We're seeing a repeat of
humanity's fall into sin, as exemplified through the children of Israel.
God wanted his children to
gain from the lost of the Egyptians
Through Moses God commanded
the children of Israel to plunder the Egyptians
This shows God's delight
and FAVOR given to them to do so
The luxury of the garden of
delights is most appropriate when it is tied with Eden's last survivors of
celebrating a marriage
God had been anticipating
the covenant of Sinai from the beginning of confronting pharaoh
They are collegting jewels because they are getting ready to go make
a marriage covenant
God was absolutely lovestruck with them and cherished this event, according to
Jeremiah 2
Preview of exodus 17,
Amalek interrupts and gets in the way and fights Israel. But by exodus 19/20
they are finally arriving at Sinai...Exodus 32/33 before God can get much done,
Israel is making a golden calf, and their gold is made again into a filthy and
condemned stinky abomination
Things started as a burning
bush in Exo 3 and ended up a burning mountain by Exodus 33
Moses makes them drink the
powdered ash water of their idol- there is a forced acknowledgement of how evil
they have made their money
After the golden calf they
are commanded to take off their gold (God took it from them when they signed
with it)
The fleshly temptations is
to say that "that doesn't apply to me cuz I
didn't make a golden calf", but the rest of the Bible shows us that it
does apply to us.
Remember that Paul is the
answer to understanding how all this applies to us. They are illustrating the
downfall of goodness for all of us.
Instead of Israel being a
beacon of light & truth, she became an object lesson of sin.
Paul takes the example of
the Israelites, and is teaching us about sin (not about light, which should
have been).
Sun 5:37pm
Moving from Exodus Calf to
Deuteronomy Anathema
The term Anathema:
Hebrew version connotates 'gathering up for doom'
In Greek - to arrange up,
in a total way, and to give up to burning
Church people say that
money is not the problem, your heart is the real
problem
"The heart is what
really matters; the material itself is not bad"
But this in essence is
pagan philosophy
The doctrine of anathema
teaches us that the stuff itself is bad
Idolatry of gold stinks to
God, and this tying the golden calf with the golden idols of the pagans
Deut 7:24-26 God tells them to imitate Moses's hot anger with
them
It did not say here that it
is a heart issue.
It said that God hates IT.
God thinks it stinks
It becomes a heart issue
when you don't hate it
Am I willing to enjoy
something that has been abominated by sin?
If you bring it into your
house then you will become disgusting to God by it
You need to be asking
yourself what are the boundaries
First step is to admit that
something stinks
Next question is how much
does it stink and why?
How much does the money of
our age stink?
Are you sinning with it, or
did the "Egyptians" sin with it?
Is there a way to redeem
it?
Be zealous to abhor idols
If it's anathema then you
can't even bring it into your house
The worse
thing you can do with an anathema thing is to lust and bring it into your house
Deut 7/ Joshua 7
When fighting jerico Joshua said to 'only keep YOURSELF
from the devoted/accursed/anathema things...'
But all the silver and gold
and containers of brass and iron are holy unto God, and they will be carried
into the Treasury of the Lord. In this particular example he is telling us how
an anathema thing can be redeemed without grinding it into powder. How to
redeem it? By taking it to God's house, NOT your own house, and use it to honor
God, not yourself.
Whenever it comes to dirty
money, you always have to follow Divine revelation in how to clean it.
Hating money is essentially
the same as the doctrine of sin.
And you don't understand a
basic elementary teaching of sin when you don't hate money.
We really got to confront
the hypocrisy of the flesh
Extremes are not the
exceptions to the rules, they are the rules
Extremes teach us moral
rules that carry over into "moderate" situations
The reason we can say this
is because we are talking about MORALITY
We are not talking about
physics and a balanced diet and such. In this physical realm, a flesh monger
finds refuge in his cherished philosophys of being
balanced, and therefore excludes extremes as though they are the exceptions to
the rules.
So we need to ask the
question, is the hatred of money because of physics? Is it not pretty?
Even if it's pretty you
still need to hate it
Anathematized money is the
worst riches (not all $ is anathema; anathema is the extreme of dirty money)
Does the most extremely
defiled money mean that it's the exception to the rule? Or is it the rule?
Anathematized money teaches
us the rules about the extreme dirtiness of money
The anathematized passages
teach us to have a negative view on money to the degree that it has been
defiled by sin. Jesus' general money hatred is backed up by, and comparable to,
Moses' particular anathema hatred, even if it's to particular degrees.
You might can take
unspecified money into your house, but be careful to hate it so that it doesn't
become accursed unto you and anathematiz you
When you give all the blessings
that God has given you to build us his house then you are safe.
Blessings include not just
money, but beauty, knowledge, strength, your advantages, possessions, etc.
Are you tempted to think
independently? And to act independently? Is it hard
for you to agree with the righteous? Ismitmhard form
the righteous to agree with you?
If you're tempted to think
different from each other and from the counsel of heaven, then you are not far
from anathema.
Don't underestimate how
much your flesh contributes to your own problems and ruin.
Sun 6:13pm(edited)
How to practically hate
& handle money?
First ask yourself and obsess over "How can I do
good?"
Next ask yourself, "what is God saying [to do]?
Next, be fully convicted
over the reality that you are often your worst enemy. Your flesh clunks about
and bongles things up, and gets yourself in more
moral failures than you need to be in.
So next, STOP:
Trivializing your sin
Down playing your
responsibility
Outsourcing your guilt
Stop acting like you know
more than you do
Stop seeking out &
prioritizing independent knowledge
Stop doing what seems good
in your eyes
Wake up in the morning and
say
How can I be less
consumptive?
How can I be more humble?
How can I think right?
How can I give wages to the
hard working laborer?
How can I be more
responsible?
How can I give more truth
to people who ache for it & are crying out for it?
How can I give people food?
How can I serve truth to
others?
How can I own up to my sin
more?
How can I admit & come to
terms with the fact that i am my worst enemy. My flesh does not know God; I am
most responsible for all the evil in my life
Don't be naive
Don't congratulate yourself
Find out more reasons to be
on your knees
More reasons to cry out
Morning begging:
the reasonable and consistent response to these urgent morning
pleas is begging
It is therefore easier to
think right when you have already been prepared to receive from others almost
everything you so desperately need
Your daily choices have a
resounding effect on what happens throughout the whole world
Luxury is so bad because
someone else over there is crying out for help while you give yourself more
than you need
There is a danger of you
taking more than you need
On judgment there is none
of this nonsense of ignoring cause & effect
Yes you are most
responsible for those in your local locality
But if you don't work to
discover the needs of the poor then you will not be excused for that
How can I reach the person
who has no coat because I have "2 coats"?
How can I prioritize the
right people?
Let kings do what they do;
but you better tremble.
Don't reward yourself
Don't live in pleasure!
Warm fuzzies
from doing something socially commendable is totally dispensable
Getting righteousness in prayer
to do real virtue and interfaceing with the burning
pleasure of God is everything
[Disciple]
Sun 10:17pm
Thanks for taking notes, I
appreciate reading through them again as I prepare for prayer.
Monday, November 11th 2024
[Overseer’s
Wife]
Mon 7:38am(edited)
= -) thanks
Yeah I'm reading over those
"wake up in the morning and say to yourself" questions/statements
now...
[Overseer]
Mon 7:38am
Yayy for notes! :+)
Mon 8:01am
morning begging:
I was going to also mention
(but didn't get to):
the reasonable and consistent response to these these urgent morning pleas is begging
It is therefore easier to
think right when you have already been prepared to receive from others almost
everything you so desperately need
[Overseer’s
Wife]
Mon 8:27am
I added that in my notes
above. Cuz I'm putting it in my prayer journal list
document now
[Overseer]
Mon 8:27am
that makes me smile :+)
….
Idolizing
Sincerity / Trusting in Sincerity
Aken’s Story: Lessons on
Sincerity
It’s a sad story, what should we
learn from that story?
Aken didn’t confess until the lot
incriminated him
He seems like he has come to the
point of sincerity.
Sincerity
Falls Short of Salvation
Sincerity does not make up for
luxury
Mr. S kept on accidentally using
the word sincere, it is real hard for your flesh to accept what we started
seeing in Aken
The
Danger of Trusting Sincerity
When you trust in sincerity you
embrace insincerity
Your flesh is still hard hearted
because your flesh still believes in sincerity
Orthodoxy
Over Sincerity
When you realize that sincerity doesn’t
save you, the only other option is orthodoxy: does anyone know what the right
word is? The only thing you have left when you kill the idol of sincerity is
Biblical begging.
The
Struggle Against Strongholds
You still struggle with begging
because you still have strongholds in your flesh of admiring sincerity, you
still believe in it in your flesh and that is why you still struggle.
[strongholds imply the need to beg more.
therefore, if you feel the threatening doom of luxury and
consumptiveness and you're not urgently eagerly asking, you're being illogical
and inconsistent and need to repent and change
hating money is for the purpose of becoming a beggar.]
The
Conviction of Aken’s Story
You are hard of hearing so lean
it and let the story of Aken convict your flesh unless you are willing for his
entire destruction to be in vain for no reason
The
Idol of Sincerity Exposed
Motives, intentions, sincerity-
you don’t understand your own energizing and inner workings of your own heart.
You are ignorant as you can possible be
when your actions are bowing to the idol of sincerity – just in the same way
church people praise it out right, just in the same way they praise liking
money, they still don’t know the doctrine of sin.
Sincerity
Cannot Ransom the Soul
What we are seeing with Aken is
an illustration that sincerity does not make up for luxury; it will not ransom
your soul
Back to Joshua 7- Achan Followup:
When you justify yourself because of sincerity then you still have no idea
about the doctrine of sin and how sinful the flesh really is
Even Achan confessed to his sin, and church people, haven't even caught up to
that
And we see with Achan that sincerity will not makeup
for luxury. It will not ransom your soul. It will not save you.
When you realize that sincerity can't save you then the only thing you have
left (when you kill the idol of sincerity) is orthodoxy and biblical begging
When you struggle with begging then you still have strongholds in your flesh of
admiring sincerity. You still believe in it in your flesh. That's why you
struggle so much with begging.
Don't be hard of hearing. Lean into the truth. Crucity your flesh. Take Achans example more seriously. Unless indeed you're willing for his entire destruction to be in vain and not taken to heart.
Gen 2
A naive person is going to think that God is talking all good about gold cuz he just has no problem with it
But we see that in Gen 3 God promises a crushing of the serpent's head and a
redemption from the bad that is occuring
We are very short sighted, but the Bible is the longest running adventure saga
in human history
Ex Isa introduces the "suffering servant" but then we have to wait
hundreds & hundreds of years to know what he's talking about
Similarly there is a history of Havilah, and it is just introduced in the beginning
of Genesis, but that is not where it stops! Yes it starts with good, but bad
does happen...
Why does Gen 2 talk about the "good gold of
Havilah"?
Started out good
But got dirty by Amalek...
Gen 25 Ismaelites were living from Havilah to Shur
Amalek likes the sinful gold of Havilah cuz he
attacked Israel in Exo 17 when she was simply passing through Sur
"Sinful gold" cuz Amalek is sinning with it
by buying selling trading and fighting for it
1 Sam 15 Saul felt the enmity of the people
But God hated them all the way to every single good thing they had
Wake up call- your flesh does not hate sinful gold
enough!
Sincerity didn't save Saul either in 1Sam 15!
God hated Amalek's prosperity which included the goodness of Havilah that God
had to anathematize
Strongholds That Discourage
How to overcome feeling overwhelmed and hopeless and
depressed and such over the fear of being snared and trapped and hated and
destroyed with any move you make in this luxurious culture and setting we live
in?
If you press into it sufficiently then it is encouraging
If you are neglecting it then is it discouraging
Your conscious can nag you because something is not fixed. Something is still
wrong
It is not necessarily saying that you are sinning
But if your flesh has uncrucified strongholds in it
then that will and should disturb you
Your conscious nags you until you pray enough; your conscious is pleading with
you to get poor.
If your body has not been dismantled in a particular, AND you have a working
conscious because you have exposed yourself to monotheism (which serves the
purpose of convicting your flesh as guilty of sin), then your
awakened & sharpened conscious will nag you about sin until it is resolved
by knowledge and willful cooperation with the truth.
Don't drown & numb your conscious by outside stimulation and entertainment
and nicetys
Your flesh has strongholds that need to be dismantled
so that your body can be an acceptable temple for the One Spirit that is holy
When you're begging God in prayer sufficiently then the fruit of that will be that you see the righteous as having the answers you need and you will be dependent on them (as opposed to acquiring your own independent knowledge and being content with your own way of surving in life)
Biblical humility always begs
>> GPT added the Titles:
Real Love: The Subtle
Dangers of "Liking" Before Loving
I fear that Disney still has an appeal to us to like before we love instead of loving each other before we like each other. Is the liking of the wrong things defiling our brain so we do not like the right things we should be liking?
Community: The Power
of Living in Community
Living in community makes it to where you don’t have to be individually rich. There is a very strong communal emphasis in the OT. You shouldn’t prefer the divide-and-conquer mindset of being individualized. If you just believe into each other, then you don’t have to be an individualized society.
Helping Others:
Wealth as a Means to Abundance for All
You don’t need personal wealth; you need to make many abundant with your wealth, not to build up yourself. You will not be a part of God’s community in the long run if you don’t love living like that.
Patience: Embrace the
Slowness & Self-denial of Monotheism
Don’t ever complain when monotheism slows you down; it will wreck you whether fast or slow if you complain. Do not follow your heart, your dreams, or your way of thinking/wrong thinking. If you are thinking right, you will be at peace with the righteous. Are you willing to give up your wrong way of thinking in order to have peace? All these issues tie into the root issue of loving silver and the wrong things in general.
10/13/24
-- Under Construction --
AlSun
5:43pm
Conference Notes:
Silver
We see in the Bible that the rich are
unforgiving
And it is not a coincidence that the rich
have a track record of dragging people to court
When you like silver, for example, you
might fight against people because of selfishness and envy
When you're hoping in the wrong thing ki.e. the
uncertainty of riches) then you're more susceptible to depression
Those counseling /strategizing to doing
abundance are falling into temptations unto ruining destruction.
You would have a lot less fleshly
temptations if you would stop liking silver
Matthew 6: Fast, trust God, deny the love
of stuff and consumptiveness, and forgive people that you might be forgiven
& free
You need to intentionally embrace not
having everything that you crave
If you sin in order to get it then you
have the wrong master
Luke 11:42 religious people are full of
lustful... covetousness and snatching greed
How do you turn evil things into
cleanness? You give (be generous)
Luke 16
The Pharisees despised Jesus and "mocking
him on our", and as a logical conclusion they are hating
him. This is correlating with them liking silver.
You will be the exact same way of you
don't escape find fondness of riches.
Hebrews 13
To not like riches means that you have to
be believing that God is with you and won't forsake
you. If you struggle with believing in the goodness that God is taking care of
you indicates that you are still vulnerable to liking riches & abundance
9/29/24; 10/1/24
-- Under Construction --
Disciple notes
10/13/24
You need to vomit out the garbage to so you can hunger and thirt for real righteousness of food
If you
stop liking luxury you will likely stop having fleshly temptation
A lot
of pastor (posperity preachers) have mistaken
supernatural provision with God wants me to be rich. Supernatural includes
times of scarcity built into it and times of abundance. Being rich means you
never have to have a low point which is dangerous. Jesus intentionally chose
times of scaricity while the children of Israel
refuse it and complained against it
The
root is a hidden source which could eventually cause a certain type of fruit,, it could be subterranean and you might not know it and that
is why it is a trap.
Pending Salvation from Luxury – it’s still need
9/29/24;
10/1/24; 10/11/24-10/12/24…10/20/24
Still Needing To Be Saved from Sinful Money
See: Pending Salvation from Luxury | SalvationfromLuxury
Are
you hating and despising the sight of money, especially whenever you're not
giving it away?
Hd
we are not free and immune from the dangers of money when we are still often being tempted to default default to...
· Being consumptive
· Thinking wrong
· Paying to avoid trials
· Wanting to buy things quickly at times when heaven has preferred us to forage like squirrels looking for acorns
· Liking the power of money
· Being persuaded by Rush and doing things fast at the expense of virtue and being spiritual and trusting
…
Going
Too Fast
10/12/24; 10/13/24
Have
you passed the probation yet of thinking wrong and wanting to do things fast?
If
not, you are not worthy to have more benefits, privileges, features and income.
Don't
want, wish for, crave, idealize what you're not worthy of.
Anti-Scarcity
10/12/24
You
have not overcome the deception of money when you're still traumatized by
scarcity and emotionally persuaded to not let it ever happen again
With
money, like many other things, it doesn't so much matter if you have good
intentions, or well intentions, but what really matters is if you have good
motives!
It
doesn’t matter say what you say or think you want it matters if you are
motivated by it
Almost
everyone intends to do good, but very few people are
motivated by what's right.
10/11/24
…
10/13/24; 10/16/24; 10/20/24
Assuming non-inspiration
Wrong Thinking
Preferring less mature ways of thinking even after better ways have been demonstrated
Unforgiveness: Still Struggling With Unforgiveness?
Defiled Admiration: marveling at the claims of value from perverse sources. -- Strategic prudence is valid to the degree it is logical and can be transferred into a virtuous application, but empty bragging leads to hell.
Believing in Yourself: believe in virtue, not yourself! Perverse fools follow their dreams, but intellectual honesty and logical integrity follows the Truth of morality. Don't ignorantly fool around with the hope of what you can accomplish. Be seriously strategic enough to incorporate the hope of being exalted from virtue (as Luke 16 teachers).
Self-justification: still vulnerable to justifying your own way of thinking (even if it's less mature and not really better)?
Don't justify your wrong thinking and misguided and immature preferences! Be expecting that someone has a better way of thinking than yourself!
Perversely self-justifying wrong thinking includes everything from preferring errors, inferiority, and immaturity in general, to feeling more free (liberal) to move faster than the restrictions of harry monotheists, assuming non-inspiration against those with a better track record than yourself and treating your own imaginations with more credit than they are worthy.
>>Scrip:
Isa_5:20 – exchanging bidder for sweet and Sweet for better
Isa_5:20 NKJV Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet,
and sweet for bitter!
Isa_5:20 MT ה֣וֹי
הָאֹמְרִ֤ים
לָרַע֙ ט֣וֹב
וְלַטּ֔וֹב
רָ֖ע שָׂמִ֣ים
חֹ֑שֶׁךְ לְא֖וֹר
וְא֣וֹר לְחֹ֑שֶׁךְ
שָׂמִ֤ים מַר֙
לְמָת֔וֹק
וּמָת֖וֹק
לְמָֽר׃
Isa_5:20 Berry Woe to them that call evil good, and good
evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for
sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isa_5:20 LXX Οὐαὶ οἱ
λέγοντες τὸ
πονηρὸν καλόν,
καὶ τὸ καλὸν
πονηρόν, οἱ
τιθέντες τὸ
σκότος φῶς, καὶ
τὸ φῶς σκότος, οἱ
τιθέντες τὸ
πικρὸν γλυκὺ
καὶ τὸ γλυκὺ
πικρόν.
What is it going to take to force your flesh to let go of its inferior delusions?
the perverse, rebellious, liberal flesh says...
>>Scrip:
Psa_2:3 – Break
Their Bonds: let us break
their bonds in pieces
Psa_2:3 NKJV "Let us break Their bonds in pieces and
cast away Their cords from us."
Psa_2:3 MT
נְנַתְּקָ֣ה
אֶת־מוֹסְרוֹתֵ֑ימוֹ
וְנַשְׁלִ֖יכָה
מִמֶּ֣נּוּ
עֲבֹתֵֽימוֹ׃
Psa_2:3 Berry "Let us break their bands asunder, and
cast away their cords from us."
Psa_2:3 LXX
"Διαρρήξωμεν
τοὺς δεσμοὺς αὐτῶν
καὶ ἀπορρίψωμεν
ἀφ' ἡμῶν τὸν
ζυγὸν αὐτῶν."
Moving Too Fast;
Hating Righteous Speedbumps
So if a monotheist has an essence that slows you down, humbles you, demotes you, holds you in probation, you should be very careful not to assume non-inspiration and be a perverted liberal who is more free because you think you see around the restrictions and see more commendable ways to move faster with more freedom, and your prideful liberal indulgence comes straight from liking money and having too much money, because you both in the prideful strength of this life which is rotting and dying.
>>Scrip:
because you say I see therefore your sin remains
This hypocritical boasting of righteous knowledge is the liberal freedom of sin that your flesh boasts in.
>>Scrip:
1Co_5:6 – you're boasting is not good don't you know a little leaven leavens the whole lump
1Co_5:6 NKJV "Your glorying is not good. Do you not know
that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"
1Co_5:6 SBL "Οὐ καλὸν
τὸ καύχημα ὑμῶν.
Οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι
μικρὰ ζύμη ὅλον
τὸ φύραμα ζυμοῖ;"
1Co_5:6 CAB Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven
leavens the whole batch?
1Co 5:6 Οὐ
καλὸν τὸ
καύχημα ὑμῶν.
οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι
μικρὰ ζύμη ὅλον
τὸ φύραμα
ζυμοῖ;
√ GNT-V
Therefore you do not see and you have no ground to boast in anything or rejoice in any hope that is outside of removing the leaven of defiled flesh and finding the clean virtue of integrity.
You don't need to "break" the restrictions of rough monotheists, you need to decrease the privileges you already have until you finally save your soul and repent of being a pervert in the flesh.
We probably don't struggle with all of these things to the same degrees, however do whatever degree we are vulnerable to such temptations, these character breaches are clear evidences that we are still vulnerable and in danger and need to escape luxury and liking money, which is at the root of all such temptations toward reckless and chaotic nastiness.
…
9/29/24;
7:01pm Sun
We are not out of the forest yet if we still have these issues on a regular basis:
Being worldly
Being fleshly
Struggling to agree
Struggling to be unified
Struggling to reciprocate
Struggling to forgive each other – we see in james that the rich cannot forgive people but have a track record of dragging people t court. You might not think there is a cause and effect but that doesn’t mean it is not there,
Having differences in your own way of thinking...
All these indicators are signs of luxury
---------------
The way to not slave serve money is to hate and despise it
Hate means to hate, it does not mean to love less this is heresy
A slightly more literal word is to detest which means you are irked by it
Despising – the way you think about something to lower it and put it down
When Sir speaks the harsh truth from the Bible to cut off the flesh then people say he has the wrath of man. They do this because they do not have the law of God written on their heart
2Ti_6:9 wanting to be rich = falling
Thoroughly nourishment and scooped into burrowing things
You can have a room where you can take off your outer garment and lean back to eat – this is what it means to lose down
The nastiness of worrying into tomorrow in Matt 6 directly correlate with the sinfulness of wanting more money
If you want abundance, much to where you have more than what you need then you go to hell
You are trap, you thought you were going to do good with your money but you go into a trap, ruin and sinking away
Sunday, November 3rd 2024
haSun
12:29am(edited)
Btw I was considering the
list of topics that come up on reddit again. I
mentioned it before, but it would be neat if the website addresses these hot
topics. Just mentioning it since you are updating the Bible studies....
· Overcoming lust (male and female).
· Pornography (male and female)
· Masturbation (make and female)
· Suicide
· Homosexuality and being trans and lgbtq+. Breaking free, what to do to follow jesus, what if your feelings don't go away after following truth.
· Divorce and remarriage issues. What allows for divorce, can you remarry (i know you have a book on this topic already)
· How to court to get your spouse
· Dating nonchristians
· Dating christians. What do you do if you started fornicating. How do you proceed with the relationship.
· Spouse cheated on you, what do you do now? Divorce?
· What is modest (male and female)
· Mental health in general - depression, hopelessness, bipolar, etc
· What do you do if your spouse/family/friends/community isn't as serious about obeying the Bible as you are
haSun
12:37am
Also btw, hopefully you can
add your free ssl certificate to the website soon.
Your host should have
instructions on how to do this. It should take less than 30 min to implement it
once you understand the instructions.
haSun
12:47am(edited)
I went for a walk today and
didn't finish my energy hydration drink on the wall. I finished it right before
I started prayer a few hours ago and now Im not
sleepy.... hopefully it will wear off soon....
AySun 5:01am(edited)
I think the "how to
court to get your spouse" goes well with the purity no dating Bible study.
I like the no dating battle list but it gives the impression the only way to be
pure in this life is celibacy because it doesn't provide info on how to
righteously get a spouse/wife instead. I've shared the bible study to outsiders
but wished that it included an answer to what to do instead of dating. The
"how" seems to provide a hope for a fundamental need especially since
celibacy doesn't seem to be the default for most men or I guess humans in
general.
AlSun 6:50am
= -)
HdSun 7:37am
@team: yayy
and thanks for all of these thoughts!
haSun 8:07am
Yes and for all the topics,
there is always the question,.can
I be a Christian and be a porn addict, or mastrabate,
or be gay, or be suicidal etc.
haSun 8:11am
Also as far as being gay,
there are generally 3 camps of christians:
those who participate in a gay lifestyle and claim to be christian,
those who have gay desires but choose to be celibate as a christian,
those who somehow manage to get legitimately married but still suffer from same
sex attraction and claim to be christian.
In general lgbtq+ is a major topic in today's society. I think it
should be addressed more on our website beyond just a sin list.
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(compare: Judging the Church
You're struggle between the flesh and the spirit
You will hurt other people by rejoicing when you're told you to be sad, and you will be sinning
Example, rejoicing in lawful marriage
In general, God's prescriptions are against the flesh
The flesh is going to groan when God tells it to rejoice
For you to be spiritual you got to follow God's prescriptions
God has told you how to mourn and He has told us how to rejoice
Crucifixion is exciting & thrilling
On order to embrace the excitement of crucifixion we need to upgrade our faith
We don't need to stay meager souled or meager faith-ed
Strong in faith verses meager in faith
Be patient towards all- long hot breathing
The flesh groans because the flesh doesn't want to
crucify itself
You might have all kinds of sorrows but at least there's crucifixion
Think about all the possibilities of how crucifixion can be exciting...
You're discouraged when you're not thinking reality and when the flesh is resisting crucifixion
Reality is that there is a higher standard, and you're not rejoicing in it enough successfully
We are describing missing out on this life and...
Do you really believe that crucifixion is exciting?
We have to fight for crucifixion-faith
The flesh is avoiding sacrifice
The flesh is a de-educated sinful fallen creation that is resistant towards crucifixion
The miracle of the fish running into the net is precisely what crucifixion is
It is absolute bufunary to not be excited about crucifixion
You will be just another insignificant buffoon passing this life if you don't get on that alter
Yes you will be just another fish eating the dung of everyone else in the sea
Why would you want dung when you can seize and opportunity to be Jesus' breakfast!??
And Yes, I'm prayerful for you...