DTA – Discipleship Training Apprenticeship

Becoming a Real Apprentice-Learner of the REAL Jesus by Obeying Those He Sent

 and Finding The Path of True, Original Christianity

The Submissive Obedience you Have to do to the Divine Truth on Earth in Order to Inherit the Kingdom of Heaven

The pursuit of becoming Apprentice Learners of Jesus

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

12/28/07 (original title: Discipleship); 1/6/08 (Original Sunday Morning Presentation); 5/18/08; 5/30/09; 8/19/09; (7/24/10); (3/14/11; 3/21/11 – Asks Questions); 10/17/11; 10/19/11; 1/29/12-1/30/12; 2/17/12; 4/10/12-4/11/12; 5/20/12; 9/15/12; 9/27/12; 11/28/12 (added Wis_4:1-2); 7/22/13-7/23/13 (Independent Salvation); 2/22/14; 8/6/16; 2/13/17 (retitled: Saving Discipleship); 2/21/17 (recompiled Foundations); 3/24/17; other date(s); 2/8/19; 3/15/21; 3/31/21-4/1/21

 

Compare: Salvation Basics

 

Intro

·        DTA – Discipleship Training Apprenticeship comes from the Biblical word for discipleship: μαθητὴς.

·        You have to be a Biblical disciple to inherit heaven: Luk_14:25-35.

·        Biblical discipleship starts with baptism…

·        You Have to Have a Matthew 28 (ObeyAll) Romans 6 (NoSin) Baptism to Inherit Heaven.

·        Biblical discipleship means Obeying all the Bible and Stopping All Sin.
see: Salvation Basics

·        If you are still sinning and not obeying All the Bible then your baptism was useless and you have not been discipled or saved.

·        TrueConnection.org’s DTA is the only known Biblical Discipleship Program still existing today so far (let us know if you find others!).

·        Do you want to sign up for our DTA?
Email: Secretary@TrueConnection.org

·        (Keep reading if you want to know a little bit about what Biblical discipleship is all about...)

 

These are unfinished notes for our community.

Like usual, in cases like this, you should contact us so that we can teach you all of these exciting and helpful things.

 

 

>> TODO/ Additions!

Mediators vs. Priests

>> PeopleCanSavePeople

Independent Salvation

The Value of the Individual

Distinctions Between God and Man

Waiting for Believers to Believe

Salvation

Great Commission

 

Recompiled:

Assuming Non-Inspiration

Believe in God on Earth

Divine Mistakes

 

 

Contents

Intro. 1

Preface. 2

1. Defining Discipleship. 2

Language (“Etymology”) – What is a Disciple?. 2

Functional Definitions of Discipleship. 3

Discipleship Digs Deep. 4

Disciples Are Eager for Discipleship. 5

2. The Proof of Discipleship. 6

Are you Truly Following Jesus?. 6

Discipleship Scarcity. 8

A Problem.. 8

How Do You Know When You’re REAL?. 9

Are You Paying the Price of Discipleship?. 9

Are You Disciplined and Committed to Discipleship?. 10

Personal Proofs of Discipleship. 10

Disciples Discontinue Depravity. 11

The Hard-Core Way. 12

3. Imitation – Where We Finally Find Out if You Are a Real Disciple! 12

Intro Basics – The Solid Proclamation of Imitation. 12

My Gospel; Our Gospel 14

The Gospel I Preach. 14

Imitate me and Peace Will be with You. 15

Humility Produces Real Discipleship that Actually Imitates! 15

Mediators vs. Priests. 16

Saul Proves that Your Personal Relationship Sends you to Hell 16

4. The Hope & Reward of Discipleship. 19

Confronting The Heresy Of No New Revelation. 21

Salvation. 21

Salvation Defined. 21

Terms of Salvation. 22

Two Aspects. 22

What is Eternal Life. 22

Common Belief / Superstition Does not Save. 22

Great Commission. 22

Summary Preview of Commissions. 23

The Pre-commissions – The 12 Sent Out 23

The Pre-commissions – The 70 Sent Out 23

(B) The Great Commission. 23

(C) The Pre-commissions Compared with the Great Commission. 23

You are Imagining Yourself on the Wrong Side. 24

Commission Initiated. 24

The Commission Rebooted Today! 24

How to Successfully Call up on Jesus' Name. 26

We do not Preach Ourselves. 28

 

Especially See:

Preface | Language… What is a “Disciple” | Functional Definitions of Discipleship | Mat 7 | Luk_14:25 | Mat_10:32-39

 

The MP3 of this teaching should be available at:

www.trueconnection.org/av/Discipleship_1.6.08_ED.mp3

(The MP3 is only a brief overview of all the details that you can see here below)

 

Preface

If you are an American christian beware! The path that Jesus trod and set for us and our salvation is one of discipleship rather than the theoretical and shallow commitment of converts that we see in most churches in Westernized culture. If we don’t follow this extreme and unpopular path that Jesus called being His apprentice learner (or “disciple”), we only have the Broadway to Hell and destruction as our alternative!

Avail yourself to know and understand this eternal distinction called “Discipleship.”

 

Intro Requirements For Discipleship from The Righteous

4/3/15

Faith -- believe in Prophet

forsake all (Stuff & Sin)

>> combine w other Forsake All sections

Discipleship

 

Shocking Truth You Need to Learn

Repenting of your god and obeying someone else’s God is the only way you can go to heaven. 9/25/13

>> get other quotes from insp…

 

Intro

 

1. Defining Discipleship

Below: A. Language… – What is a “Disciple” | B. Functional Definitions of Discipleship

 

Language (“Etymology”) – What is a Disciple?

 

(1) The Hebrew ָלַמד (lāmaḏ) is literally “to goad, that is, (by implication) to teach (the rod being an Oriental incentive)” (Strong’s on H3925), or (depending on grammar) to learn.  Lāmaḏ (H3925) naturally produces ִלמּוּד (limmûḏ), (H3928) which is basically someone who is taught.*

 

[* Technical Grammar Note: the first word is an action verb and the second is a descriptive adjective – but isn’t it like noun (thing/person)?]

 

“...the acquisition of instruction...” (The Complete Word Study Dictionary on H3925)

[Disclaimer Note: The Complete Word Study Dictionary is a heretical resource. I am only referencing it for this limited purpose.]

[Technical Grammar: “to teach” would be the “active voice” while “...the acquisition of instruction...” – wouldn’t this be the “middle voice”?]

 

(2) The Greek μανθάνω (manthanō), (G3129) very simply means to learn, and this produces μαθητής (mathētḗs), (G3101) a learner. But to be a learner in ancient cultures usually implied the seriousness of an apprentice learner.

 

[Strong’s: G3129: “…to learn (in any way)”; G3101: “…a learner, that is, pupil …”]

 

(3) The English word “disciple” ends up “…coming to English by way of the Latin discipulus meaning ‘a learner’.”

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple_%28Christianity%29]

 

(4) The Bible is very clear that becoming an apprentice learner (that is, discipleship) is the only way to heaven, and it is not some advanced form of christianity, but that it is indeed, the one and only form of ancient, original, historical, True, Biblical Christianity:

 

Read

Mat_28:19-20; Mar_16:20 – ‘go make disciples’/ ‘go apprentice people as learners’ (etc.)/ “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved” (Mar_16:16 CAB)

Act_11:26 – “...And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” (CAB)

 

It is clear that there is no difference from a real Biblical Christian and a disciple. We ought to reject the common heresy of easy-believeism which insults the entire body of Truth by implying that christians need not necessarily be full-fledged disciples in order to go to heaven, as though a person could be saved from eternal hell without truly and completely forsaking everything to follow Jesus and becoming His extreme and devoted learner through those He sent them (see Matthew and Mark referenced previously).

 

(5) For a Summary we could almost say that a disciple simply means a student, but this means so much more than something as shallow as “intellectual instruction” as we are prone to think of it. To those in the Bible, truly learning is more like apprenticeship, and this is why we use the word “disciple”, avoiding the shallow assumptions Westernized thinkers often connect to “learning.” This Divine apprenticeship is the only way to follow Jesus and be saved from sin and hell unto eternal glory with Him forever.

 

Functional Definitions of Discipleship

 

Discipleship…

·        Is training in righteousness by a real man or woman of God to fully obey and follow Jesus.

·        Is a mentoring process to become a man or woman of God.

·        Means being committed to this process of mentoring and training.

·        Is harder than you ever expected, and infinitely more rewarding than you ever dreamed.

·        Filters and separates the modern christian from someone who is REALLY following Jesus.

·        Weeds out the fake and shallow, from the truly committed.

 

·        When someone is ready to commit to discipleship, that’s when you know they’re really ready to commit to following Jesus.

      - Do these things describe you?

·        Making disciples is sealing the deal to call people to absolute and total commitment to live according to the eternal mandates of the Bible.

·        Saying, “I don’t need training…” is saying, “I don’t need Jesus’ way of getting to God” – You are rejecting Jesus’ only provision for salvation because He’s the One that ordained discipleship: Mat_28:18-20 (“Make disciples”) Luk_10:16; Mat_10:40; Joh_13:20 (“Whoever listens to you, listens to me”).

·        Humanism says, “I worship God in my own way” and “I don’t need anyone to help me know God… I trust my own heart to guide me to him.”

 

Are you a follower of Jesus and the Bible (including those He sent you) or are you an independent follower of Humanism?

 

Pro_14:12 CAB  There is a way which seems to be right with men, but the ends of it reach to the depths of hell.

 

We think we came up with this independent idea ourselves, but actually we’re our culture’s disciples when we think like this.

 

MT Refs:

Pro_28:26 KJ2000  He that trusts in his own heart is a fool: but whosoever walks wisely, he shall be delivered.

 

Jer_17:9 KJV  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

 

Pro_14:12 WEB  There is a way which seems right to a man, But in the end it leads to death.

 

Also see: Psa_51:5 (naturally corrupt); Ecc_9:3 (full of evil); Mar_7:21-23 (you sin because there’s sin in your heart)

 

·        According to the Bible, we stand in desperate need of Jesus’ discipleship, and He has ordained that this training be done through submitting to other people that He has put in a person’s life as ambassadors of His proclamation (such as, Apostles, Overseers, Leaders, Mentors, etc.).

·        Truly, we ALL stand in desperate need… the question is: are we going to walk in foolish self-confidence relying on ourselves, or are we going to acknowledge our need and embrace discipleship?

 

A Disciple Asks Questions

>> combine with “Questions” below!

- A disciples is a learner

 

General Thoughts

- This is always followed by a hunger for truth, and - interestingly enough this always plays out in eager, faith demanding questions

 

- So many people want to think what they want to think, but Jesus' learners have renounced this insubordination to obey absolute truth

 

- If you need training, it is your responsibility to 'cry out for it' (compare Pro)

 

- If you disagree with or do not understand the direction of things, it is your responsibility to be a learner and find out what is the truth behind the matter

 

Fleshly Contentment to not do more Justice

- So many people dangerously want to think various ways but then do not make hearing truth a priority (do not forsake... but provoke so no hardness)

 

- If you are being tempted to think what you want to think, if you are going to be in league with Jesus, it is your duty and crying need to chase after truth and help

 

Discipleship Digs Deep

 

Jer_13:23 CAB  If the Ethiopian H3569/ G128 shall change his skin, or the leopardess her spots, then shall you be able to do good, having learned H3928/ G3129 [MT: למדי (limmûd); LXX: μεμαθηκότες (memathēkotes)– that is, having been discipled/ trained] to do evil.

 

Ethiopian” (H3569/ G128) – Hebrew (H3569) כושׁי (kûshîy*) – i.e. A Cushite/ a descendant of Cush, son of Ham (Gen_10:6); Greek (G128) Αθοψ** (Aithiops) – literally means someone with a burnt (αθ) face (οψ) speaking of the adjusted skin color of their face (same as in Num_12 and Act_8:27); From all of this we eventually get “Ethiopian”; i.e. the African descendants of Cush]

 

Jer_13:23 KJ2000  Can the EthiopianH3569/ G128 change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may you also do good, that are accustomedH3928/ G3129 to doing evil.

 

·        The “leopardess” is obviously not sinning by having her spots, just like the African is not tainted by the uniqueness of the color of his face, but from these analogies we see the deep set nature that describes discipleship.

·        When you’ve TRULY been discipled it becomes cemented in you as a solid part of your nature!

·        When you’ve TRULY been discipled it becomes as pronounced as the skin on your face!

·        Mat_7:16-23 “You will know them by their fruits”

·        Is discipleship where you are going?  Or are you drifting spiritually? (You’re not going to get godly by accident.)

·         Ultimately, whoever you are learning from and imitating, you are being discipled by these same people.

 

Also Compare:

The Disciples of John: Mat_11:2; Mar_2:18; Luk_5:33; Luk_7:18; Joh_3:25

Said to be of Moses: Joh_9:28

The disciples of the Pharisees: Mar_2:18

 

Details:

From the Hebrew Old Testament (the original language), and the Greek Old Testament (The “LXX” translated ~200BC and quoted throughout the New Testament)

 

Disciples Are Eager for Discipleship

 

Questions

If you are a disciple and don’t understand, then you will ask questions as they did: Mat_13:10; Mat_13:36;  Mat_15:12; Mat_24:1; Mat_24:3; Mat_26:17

 

It is Not “Forced” Externally

 

Act_2:41-42 KJV  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.  42  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

Ruth’s Example

Rth 1:15 WEB  She said, Behold, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people, and to her god: return after your sister-in-law.

Rth 1:15 KJV+  And she said,H559 Behold,H2009 thy sister in lawH2994 is gone backH7725 untoH413 her people,H5971 and untoH413 her gods:H430 returnH7725 thou afterH310 thy sister in law.H2994

Rth 1:15 LB  And Naomi said to Ruth, “Behold, your sister-in-law has returned to her people and to her gods; turn now also after your sister-in-law.”

Rth 1:15  καὶ εἶπεν Νωεμιν πρὸς Ρουθ Ἰδοὺ ἀνέστρεψεν ἡ σύννυμφός σου πρὸς λαὸν αὐτῆς καὶ πρὸς τοὺς θεοὺς αὐτῆς· ἐπιστράφητι δὴ καὶ σὺ ὀπίσω τῆς συννύμφου σου.

Rth 1:16 WEB  Ruth said, "Don't entreat me to leave you, and to return from following after you, for where you go, I will go; and where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God;

Rth 1:16 KJV+  And RuthH7327 said,H559 IntreatH6293 me notH408 to leaveH5800 thee, or to returnH7725 from following afterH4480 H310 thee: forH3588 whitherH413 H834 thou goest,H1980 I will go;H1980 and whereH834 thou lodgest,H3885 I will lodge:H3885 thy peopleH5971 shall be my people,H5971 and thy GodH430 my God:H430

Rth 1:16 LB  And Ruth said, “Do not urge me to leave you, or to return from following you; for wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God.