Judging
The Church
The Bible Passages that Practically No One Obeys Anymore About Judging those in the church
Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org
[6/20/02
Contents
1. Don’t
Associate with Unrepentant church People2
2Th 3 – Withdrawal from the Disorderly christians. 2
1Co 5-6 – Judge/ Disassociate/ Hand-over to satan. 2
1Ti 6 – Wholesome Words, and the Doctrine According to Good-Reverence. 3
2. Especially
Reject Heretics Harshly!3
Tit 3 – Reject A Self-Condemned Heretic Man. 3
Gal 1; 2Co 11 – Another Gospel4
Rom 16 – Turn Away from those who are Contrary to
the Teaching4
2Jn 1 – Don’t Welcome them into Your House, or Wish them Any Goodness. 4
3. Don’t Give
into the Manipulation of Heretics4
2Co_11:20-21 – Don't “Turn the other Cheek” to Manipulative church
People5
Judge those who Claim to be Apostles5
4. What
Should a Real Disciple do?5
Psalms and More – A Biblical Attitude of Withdrawing. 5
Biblical Commands when Confronting sin in the Church. 5
First Check Your Heart for Mercy, and See if You’re Right with God! 6
5. What
Should The Repentant Church Person Do?8
Mat 12 – Acknowledge that the Stakes are High (Count the Cost) 8
Psa 101 – Get Away From the Bad Things and the Bad People. 8
2Co 6 – Come Out from Among Them8
Luk 10; 1Jo 4 – Listen to Those Whom God Has Sent 8
Come Out From The Midst Of Them.. 9
Have
you ever wondered why the Modern church is dead and why spiritual cancer seems
to spread so freely like wildfire? Here are the Bible verses that practically
no one wants you to believe about judging those in the church, especially those
who live in sin and call themselves Christians.
If you have other Scriptures that you would like to suggest adding to
this study please email Josiahs@TrueConnection.org
2Th_3:4 KJV
We have confidence in the Lord concerning you,
that you both do and will do the things we command…
2Th_3:6-7 KJV
Now we command you, brethren, in
the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that
you withdraw yourselves from every brother that walks disorderly, and not
after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For
yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves
disorderly among you;
2Th_3:13-15 KJV
But ye, brethren, be not weary
[ἐκκακήσητε
– lit. (fall) out (into) evil-nasty-bad-ness;
i.e. do not go out of your current state into
bad-feeling-ness (as if sick or exhausted) so that you let off] in well doing. 14 And if any
man obey not [οὐχ ὑπακούει – lit. does not (submissively) listen under (unto obeying)]
our word [τῷ λόγῳ ἡμῶν]
by this epistle, note [σημειοῦσθε
– lit. put a sign/ “mark” (on)] that man, and *have no company with
[* μὴ συναναμίγνυσθαι
– lit. no together-up/again-mixing, or, do not up-again-(i.e. repeatedly/ thoroughly/ intensely)-mix-together
(with)] him, that *he may be ashamed
[* ἐντραπῇ
– lit. in-turned; i.e. inverted,
or fig. humbled down – so that he is put down on
the ground from his lofty/ “proud” stance]. 15 Yet
[καὶ
– and] count [ἡγεῖσθε
– lead yourself (to act with)] him not as an enemy, but admonish* [νουθετεῖτε
(G3560) – lit. mind-ify (him);
i.e. (make him) mindful/ “put him in mind”] him as a brother.
* That is, “νου-”
(nou-)
from “νοῦς”
(noús;
G3563) – meaning mind, combined
with “τίθημι”
(títhēmi;
G5087), to place.
Strong’s says:
G3560 νουθετέω noutheteō noo-thet-eh'-o
From the same as G3559; to put in
mind, that is, (by implication)
to caution or reprove gently: - admonish, warn.
It is good if you can read all of
1Corinthians 5 through 6:10 to get a complete understanding on judging the
church. Here are the main parts of this teaching:
1Co_5:1-7 CAB It is
actually heard that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is
not even named among the Gentiles--that a man has his father's wife! 2 And
you are puffed up, and have not rather grieved, so that
he who did this deed would be removed from your midst. 3 For I indeed, as being absent in body but
present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him
who has done this deed in this way, 4 in
the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with
my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, in order
that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus [see: 2Co_2:4-11]. 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not
know that a little leaven leavens the whole batch? 7 Purge out the old leaven…
1Co_5:9-13 I wrote to
you in my epistle not to associate with fornicators. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the fornicators
of this world, or with the covetous, or swindlers, or idolaters,
since then you would need to go out of the world! 11 But
now I write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, who is a fornicator,
or covetous person, or an idolater, or abusive person, or
a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a person. 12 For
what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do
you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God will
judge. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person."
1Co_6:2-3 CAB Do you
not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by
you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Do
you not know that we will judge angels? Let alone ordinary matters!
1Co_6:9-10 Jos.Trans. ...don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,G3120 nor homosexuals,G733 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor criticizers,G3060 nor forceful takers,G727 will inherit the kingdom of God.
(compare Mat 7
notes below)
Jesus Had this Extreme Attitude
This is an extreme attitude of opposition
toward those who claim to be christians
and live in sin! In fact, Jesus puts it this way:
Mat_10:34-36 WEB "Don't think that I came to send peace on the earth. I
didn't come to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to set a man at odds against his father, and a
daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 A man's foes will be those of his own household.
And this extreme “war-like” attitude of
opposition to corrupters dates back throughout the Old Testament, as it was
given to the Church of their day. It gave charges concerning those who were inside
the community who would try to justify being in sin and leading others into
it.
People are still around today, living in sin and promoting this cancer
for others to take in just like those warned against in the Old Testament, and
if you ever get close to applying these above verses today, those who live in
sin will often say that, “that was the Old Testament, but now we are under
grace!” But this argument is only a foolish westernized perversion. And how do
we know this for sure? Because in the above Corinthian passage it quotes from
this Old Testament attitude when Paul applies it to Christians and charges them
to oppose and expel those who try to pollute the New Testament Church:
“But those who are outside God will
judge. Therefore "put away from yourselves [as opposed to
outsiders] the evil person,” (1Co_5:13 CAB).
Deuteronomy is The Basis For 1Co 5-6
This is a direct quote from Deuteronomy
showing that Paul specifically charges us to reaffirm this Old Testament
attitude into the current practice of judging those in the Church today:
Deu_13:1-11 CAB And
if there arise within you a prophet, or one who dreams a dream, and he gives
you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder come to pass which
he spoke to you, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you know
not; 3 you
shall not hearken to the words of that prophet, or the dreamer of that dream,
because the Lord your God is testing you, to see whether you love your God with
all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall follow the Lord your God,
and fear Him, and you shall hear His voice, and attach yourselves to Him. 5 And that prophet or that dreamer of a dream
shall die; for he has spoken to make you err from the Lord your God who brought
you out of the land of Egypt, who redeemed you from bondage, to thrust you out
of the way which the Lord your God commanded you to walk in. So shall you abolish the evil from among you. 6 And if your brother by your father or mother,
or your son, or daughter, or your wife in your bosom, or friend who is equal to
your own soul, entreat you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods,
which neither you nor your fathers have known,
7 of the gods of the nations that are round
about you, who are near you or at a distance from you, from one end of the
earth to the other; 8 you shall not consent to him, neither shall you hearken to him; and your eye
shall not spare him, you
shall feel no regret for him, neither shall you at all protect
him: 9 you shall surely report concerning him, and
your hands shall be upon him among the first to
slay him, and the hands
of all the people at the last. 10 And they shall stone him with stones,
and he shall die, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God who
brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 11 And
all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall not again do according to this evil
thing among you.
This is
repeated:
Deu_17:7 CAB And the
hand of the witnesses shall be upon him among the first to put him to death,
and the hand of the people at the last; so shall
you remove the evil one from among yourselves.
And it is repeated again and again:
Deu_19:19, Deu_22:21, Deu_22:24, Deu_24:7;
Though this harsh teaching is old, it is not
obsolete. In fact, this teaching still stands today as a powerful charge of
commitment to Love God more than the comfort of men, even if that means
confronting sin in them.
Though we don’t kill people with the death penalty today as they did in
their day (being a theocracy on earth that we no longer have) we are commanded
to put them out of the church, hand them over to satan, and declare them damned to Hell (“anathema”)
as the above Corinthian passage and many others show.
1Co_16:22 KJV If any
man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema…
Withdraw From People who
Teach Contrary to the Wholesome Words, those of Jesus, and the Doctrine
According to Good- Reverence:
1Ti_6:3-5 CAB If anyone *teaches differently [* ἑτεροδιδασκαλεῖ – lit. does other teaching] and does not *consent to [* προσέρχεται – lit. come/ “draw” near to] sound words, even those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine [διδασκαλίᾳ – teaching] which accords with godliness [εὐσέβειαν – lit. good (εὐ) reverence (σέβειαν)/ adoration; see: G2150 > G2152 > G2095 + G4576], 4 he is puffed up, understanding [ἐπιστάμενος – lit. standing upon; fig. establishing the mind on] nothing, but is *morbidly concerned with [* νοσῶν περὶ – lit. sick around/ “concerning”] disputes [ζητήσεις – lit. seekings/ “questions”] and word battles, from [ἐξ – out (of)] which come [γίνεται – becomes/ ‘is begotten’] envy, strife, slanders [βλασφημίαι – blasphemies; lit. damage-speakings; fig. slander-speakings (against God or people)], evil suspicions [1ὑπόνοιαι 2πονηραί – 2evil/ wicked/ “perverted,” 1under-minded-thinking], 5 constant wrangling [διαπαρατριβαὶ] of men of corrupt minds [νοῦν] and having been deprived [ἀπεστερημένων] of the truth, supposing [νομιζόντων] that godliness [εὐσέβειαν – lit. good reverence] is a means of profit. Withdraw from such people.
Tit_3:9-11 – I translated verse
10 to be as accurate as possible
Tit_3:9 CAB But avoid foolish disputes and genealogies, and strifes and legal fights; for they are unprofitable and futile.
Tit_3:10 Jos.Trans A hereticG141
man, after the first and second warningG3559, rejectG3868
Tit_3:11 CAB knowing that such a person has been perverted and is sinning, being
self-condemned.
[compare 1Ti_6:3-5 “wholesome words”]
Greek
hereticG141 man – “αἱρετικὸν
G141 ἄνθρωπον”
(aihretikon anthrōpon): The Greek
word heretic here (aihretikon) has to do
with “choosing” things that are outside the main body of truth, which is
essentially the same as “αἵρεσις”
(haíresis), G139 – Heresy; compare
Gal_5:20; 2Pe_2:1)
warningG3559 – This Greek word “νουθεσίαν”
(nouthesía) is basically the same as “νουθετέω” (noutheteō), as quoted previously (G3560).
rejectG3868 - “παραιτοῦ”
(paraituo) literally means to “ask aside”;
Strong’s says:
G3868 παραιτέομαι paraiteomai par-ahee-teh'-om-ahee
From G3844 and the
middle of G154; to beg off, that is, deprecate, decline,
shun: - avoid, (make) excuse, intreat, refuse, reject.
Parallel Passage
2Ti_2:14-19 – Oppose Error
2Ti_2:23-24 – No foolishness for The Servant of the Lord
Gal_1:8-9 KJV But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached
unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before,
so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you
than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (and
see 1Co_16:22)
2Co_11:2-4 CAB For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy, for I have
betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest perhaps as the
serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the
simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes
to you preaches another Jesus whom we did not preach, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you did not accept, you may well put
up with him!
Rom_16:17-20 WEB Now I beg you, brothers, look out for those who are causing the divisions
and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrineG1322
which you learned, and turn
away from them.
18 For
those who are such don't serve our Lord, Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth
and flattering speech, they deceive the hearts of the innocentG172. 19 …But I desire to have you wise in that
which is good, but innocent G185
[simple (or
unmixed)] in that which is evil. 20 And the God of
peace will quickly crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ be with you.
Note: I corrected
the two words above that are frequently misrepresented as the same word; most
versions typically either have them both represented as simple
or innocent. We should distinguish them
like this since they are two very different words in Greek, as the Strong’s numbers above indicate.
2Jn_1:7-11 WEB For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the Antichrist. 8 Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have accomplished, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teachingG1322 of Christ, doesn't have God. He who remains in the teachingG1322, the same has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teachingG1322, don't receive him into your house, and don't welcomeG5463 him, 11 for he who welcomesG5463 him participates in his evil works.
Greek
G1322 - “διδαχή” (didachē): Teaching or Doctrine
G5463 – “χαίρω” (chairō) directly means to favor/ “rejoice”, because in the Biblical mindset, “favoring” is rejoicing. In 2Jn_1:10-11 the word is used twice in the Present Tense and Active Voice [“χαιρειν” (chairein)] – which means that a real Christian is forbidden to wish such a heretic to be favor-rejoicing, which was a common practice of wishing someone well and displaying kindness as a greeting, and this is forbidden for real disciples to wish upon the defiled favor-rejoicing of heretics, because it is overtly evil in promoting sin.
Deu_13:5 WEB That prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he has spoken rebellion against Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to draw you aside out of the way which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk in. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.
Deu_13:5 And that prophet or that dreamer of a dream shall die; for he has spoken to make you err from the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, who redeemed you from bondage, to thrust you out of the way which the Lord your God commanded you to walk in. So shall you abolish the evil from among you.
Deu_13:5
(13:6) καὶ ὁ προφήτης
ἐκεῖνος ἢ ὁ τὸ ἐνύπνιον
ἐνυπνιαζόμενος
ἐκεῖνος ἀποθανεῖται·
ἐλάλησεν γὰρ
πλανῆσαί σε ἀπὸ
κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ
σου τοῦ ἐξαγαγόντος
σε ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου
τοῦ λυτρωσαμένου
σε ἐκ τῆς δουλείας
ἐξῶσαί σε ἐκ τῆς
ὁδοῦ, ἧς ἐνετείλατό
σοι κύριος ὁ θεός
σου πορεύεσθαι
ἐν αὐτῇ· καὶ ἀφανιεῖς
τὸν πονηρὸν ἐξ ὑμῶν
αὐτῶν.
Don't let the proud take advantage of you and
manipulate you into doing things on their behalf
2Ti_3:5-6 CAB
...And from these people turn away!
6 For of
these are those who creep into
houses and captivate gullible
women having been loaded down with sins, who are led by various lusts,
Pro_22:24 CAB Be not companion to a furious man, neither
lodge with a passionate [or "furious" (KJV)] man,
(Compare Pro_19:19)
If this applies to the outside world, how much more would it
apply to a heretic or hypocrite inside the church?
2Co_6:14-18 CAB
Do not become unequally yoked with unbelievers;
for what participation is there for righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion
is there for light with darkness? 15 And what agreement
is there for Christ with Belial? Or what part is there for a believer with an infidel? 16 And what union is there for the temple
of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God, just as God has
said: "I will dwell in them and walk among them, and I will be their God,
and they shall be My people." 17 Therefore "Come out from the
midst of them and be separated," says the Lord. "Do not touch what is
unclean, and I will receive you." 18 "I will be a
Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says the LORD
Almighty."
2Co_11:20-21 CAB
For you put up with it if someone enslaves you, if someone devours you, if someone takes from you, if someone exalts himself, if
someone strikes you in the face. 21 To our shame, I
say that we were too weak for that!...
Paul rebukes them with a stroke of sarcasm at the
end here. Also compare:
Pro_25:26 WEB
Like a muddied spring, and a polluted well, So is a
righteous man who gives way before the wicked.
So don't give way to manipulation, but instead have the REAL Love that
God gives, because:
"Love...doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;" (1Co_13:4, 6 WEB).
Rev_2:2; 1Jo_4:1-6
If they claim to be
Apostles and are not, then don’t help them (2Jn_1:9-11)!
This is also seen from the fact that if the church puts someone out, or if you are called to reject them personally, you cannot agree with this judgment while helping that very same person with what they have need of.
Psa_15:1-5 CAB …O Lord, who shall sojourn in Your
tabernacle? And who shall dwell in Your holy
mountain? 2 He that walks blameless, and works
righteousness, who speaks truth in his
heart. 3 Who has not spoken craftily with his
tongue, neither has done evil to his neighbor, nor taken up a reproach against
them that dwell nearest to him. 4 In his sight an evil worker is set at nought*,
but he honors them that fear the Lord… 5
…He that does these things shall never be moved.
* Greek (LXX) is: “ἐξουδένωταιG1847” (exoudenōtai): to make nothing or to despise
Psa_119:115 CAB Depart from me, You evildoers; for I will search
out the commandments of my God.
Psa_6:8 CAB Depart from me, all you that work iniquity; for
the Lord has heard the voice of my weeping.
And this is quoted
by Jesus:
Mat_7:23 CAB "And then I will confess to them, 'I
never knew you! Depart from Me,
you who work iniquity!'
Psa_26:3-6 CAB For Your mercy is before my eyes; and I am
well pleased with Your truth. 4 I have not sat with
the council of vanity, and shall by no means enter in with transgressors. 5 I have hated
the assembly of evildoers; and will not sit with the ungodly. 6 I will wash my hands in innocence, and
compass Your altar, O Lord;
Jer_15:15-18 CAB O Lord, remember me, and visit me, and
vindicate me before them that persecute me. Do not bear long with them; know
how I have met with reproach for Your sake, from those
who nullify Your words. 16 Consume them, and
Your word shall be to me for the joy and gladness of my heart. For Your name
has been called upon me, O Lord Almighty.
17 I
have not sat in the assembly of them as they mocked, but I feared because of
Your power. I sat alone, for I was filled with bitterness. 18 Why do they that grieve me prevail
against me? My wound is severe; when shall I be healed? It has indeed become to
me as deceitful water that has no faithfulness.
Psa_101:1-8 CAB A Psalm of David. I will sing to You, O
Lord, of mercy and judgment; I will sing a psalm, 2
and I will be wise in a blameless way. When will You
come to me? I walked in the innocence of my heart, in the midst of my
house. 3 I have not set before my eyes any
unlawful thing; I have hated transgressors.
4 A
perverse heart has not cleaved to me; I have not known an evil man, forasmuch
as he turns away from me. 5 Him that secretly
speaks against his neighbor, him have I driven from me; he that is proud in look and insatiable in heart — with
him I have not eaten. 6 My eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell
with me; he that walked in a perfect way, the same ministered to me. 7 He that is proud dwelled not in the
midst of my house; the unjust speaker prospered not in my sight. 8 Early did I slay all the sinners of
the land, that I might destroy out of the city of the Lord all that work
iniquity.
Also see:
Psa_1:1; [Pro_9:6, MT] Pro_13:20; Psa_26:9; Psa_31:6 [compare LXX vs. MT]; Psa_119:63; Psa_139:19; Psa_139:21, Psa_139:22; 2Ki_3:13, 2Ki_3:14; Est_3:2; Isa_32:5-6; Dan_5:17-31; Mat_9:11, Mat_9:12; Mat_25:41; Bad flattering Lawyers: Act_24:2-3, But Paul: Act_24:25; 1Co_5:9-11; 1Co_15:33; 2Co_6:17; Jam_2:1-9
(edited from TSK)
Jud_1:22-23 WEB
On some have compassion, making a
distinction, 23 and some
save, snatching them out of the fire with fear, hating even the clothing
stained by the flesh.
Tit_3:10-11 KJVCNT A man that is a heretic after the first and
second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted,
and sins, being condemned of himself.
Luk_17:1-4 WEB He said to the disciples, "It is impossible that no occasions of
stumbling should come, but woe to him through whom they come! 2 It
would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were
thrown into the sea, rather than that he should cause one of these little ones
to stumble. 3 Be careful. If your brother sins
against you, rebuke him. If he
repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins
against you seven times in the day, and seven times returns, saying, 'I
repent,' you shall forgive him."
Mat_18:15-18 WEB "If
your brother sins against you, go, show him his fault between you and him
alone. If he listens to you, you have gained back your brother. 16 But if he doesn't listen, take one or
two more with you, that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may
be established. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell
it to the assembly. If he refuses to hear the assembly also, let him be to you
as a Gentile [i.e. a nation
(that means YOU)] or a tax collector. 18 Most assuredly I tell you, whatever
things you will bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever things you
will release on earth will be released in heaven. 19 Again, assuredly I tell you, that if two of
you will agree on earth concerning anything that they will ask, it will be done
for them by my Father who is in heaven.
20 For
where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst of
them." 21 Then Peter came and said to him,
"Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times?"
22 Jesus
said to him, "I don't tell you until seven times, but, until seventy times
seven.
Mat_18:35 KJV And his lord was wroth, and
delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto
him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father
do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every
one his brother their trespasses.
Mat_9:13 CAB But go and learn what this means: 'I
desire mercy and not sacrifice…'
Seek Peace, Don’t Take to Court
Mat_5:21-26 KJV
Ye have
heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever
shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That
whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the
judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca,
shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be
in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if thou
bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest
that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before
the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come
and offer thy gift. 25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles
thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to
the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into
prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by
no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
(compare Pro_25:8-11, MT vs.
LXX)
Don’t Take to Court
Luk_12:57-59 WEB Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? 58 For when you are going with your adversary before the magistrate, try diligently on the way to be released from him, lest perhaps he drag you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. 59 I tell you, you will by no means get out of there, until you have paid the very last penny."
Compare 1Co_6:1-8: ‘Possibly take before the
church if they claim to be a christian,
but not before the courts,’ just as it is seen above in Luk_17:1-4 and Mat_18:15-18.
If they are a Real Christian
Mat_7:1-5 KJV
Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what
judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall
be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest
not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a
beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the
beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
If they are Not a Real Christian
Mat_7:13-29 CAB "Enter in through the narrow gate;
because wide is the gate, and broad is the way which leads to destruction, and many
are those who enter in through it. 14 How narrow the
gate, and confined the way which leads to life, and there are few who find
it! 15 "But beware of false prophets,
who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous
wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do
men gather grape clusters from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 Thus every good tree produces good
fruit, but a rotten tree produces evil fruit.
18 A
good tree cannot produce evil fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good
fruit. 19 Every tree not producing good fruit is
cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Consequently, by
their fruits you shall know them. 21 "Not everyone
who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does
the will of My Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to
Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name
we cast out demons, and in Your name we did many mighty works?' 23 "And then I will confess to them,
'I never knew you! Depart from Me, you who work
iniquity!' 24 "Therefore, everyone who hears these
words of Mine and does them, I will compare him to a wise man who built his
house upon the rock: 25 and the rain came down, and the floods came,
and the winds blew and fell against that house; and it did not fall, for it had
been founded upon the rock. 26 And everyone who
hears these words of Mine and does not do them, will be compared to a foolish
man who built his house on the sand:
27 and the rain came down, and
the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And
its fall was great." 28 And so it was,
when Jesus finished these words, the crowds were astonished at His
teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority,
and not like the scribes.
Compare this teaching on not judging with:
Mat_7:13-27 - how to judge;
and again, compare:
1Co_4:2-5 - How not to judge, with
1Co 5 & 6 - How to judge;
And also notice the overall prohibitions in these passages against
judging the hidden motives of others, especially of real Christian “brothers,”
and notice this same principle in Jas_4:11-12.
Jealous for Justice
Luk_12:13-15 KJV
And one of
the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance
with me. 14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me
a judge or a divider over you? 15 And he said unto
them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
Rom_14:10-14 KJV
But why
dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall
all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For
it is written, As I live, saith
the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to
God. 12 So then every one of us shall give
account of himself to God. 13 Let us not
therefore judge one another any more: but judge this
rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an
occasion to fall in his brother's
way. 14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord
Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but
to him that esteemeth any thing
to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
1Jo_5:16-18 KJV
If any man
see his brother sin a sin which is not
unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto
death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there
is a sin not unto death. 18 We know that
whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is
begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Gal_6:1-5 CAB Brothers, if a man is overtaken in any
trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a person in a spirit of
gentleness, looking out for yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another's burdens, and thus
fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone
thinks that he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each person examine his own work, and then he
will have boasting in himself alone, and not in the other. 5 For each one shall bear his own load.
Jas_5:19-20 CAB Brothers, if anyone among you wanders away
from the truth, and anyone turns him back,
20 let him know that he who turns
a sinner back from the error of his way will save a soul from death and will
cover a multitude of sins.
The Servant of the Lord – Confronting Sin when
there is still Hope
2Ti_2:24-26 KJV
And the
servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those
that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the
acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may
recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him
at his will.
Luk_3:19-20
WEB but Herod the
tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias, his brother's wife, and for all
the evil things which Herod had done,
20 added this also to them all,
that he shut up John in prison.
Mar_6:11 CAB And as many as do
not receive you nor hear you, as you leave from there, shake off the dust
underneath your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it
will be more tolerable for Sodom or for Gomorrah in the day
of judgment than for that city!"
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Mat_10:23 CAB But whenever they persecute you in this city,
flee to another. For assuredly I say to you, by no means will you have gone
through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
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Mar_6:12 CAB And when they went
out, they were preaching that people
should repent.
(This is called the Gospel in Luk_9:6; Also see: Act_13:51)
Joh_7:7 CAB The world cannot
hate you, but it hates Me because I testify about it, that its works are evil.
Joh_3:18-21 CAB He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he
who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in
the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And
this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved
the darkness more than the light, because their works were evil. 20 For everyone that does evil hates the
light and does not come to the light, lest his works be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the
light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."
Mat_10:26-28 CAB Therefore do not
fear them. For nothing is concealed that shall not be unveiled, and secret that
shall not be made known. 27 "What I say
to you in the dark, say in the light; and what you hear in the ear, proclaim on
the housetops. 28 And do not fear those who kill the
body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both
the soul and the body in hell.
Mat_12:30 WEB "He who is not with me is against me, and he who doesn't gather with me,
scatters.
Psa_101:2-4 KJ2000 I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when will you come unto
me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart. 3 I will set no wicked thing before my
eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me. 4 A perverse heart shall depart from me:
I will not know a wicked person.
2Co_6:17-18 WEB Therefore, "'Come out from among them, And be separate,' says the Lord,
'Touch no unclean thing. I will receive you.
18 I
will be to you a Father. You will be to me sons and daughters,' says the Lord
Almighty."
Luk_10:16 CAB He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me."
1Jn_4:6 CAB We are of God. He that knows God hears us; he that is not of God does not hear us. By
this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
See Bible study on Repenting:
http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/Repent/Repentance.html
Here is where we talk more and more about separating from the rest of the world (not just the church).
These principles apply not only to the church but to all people who sin.
1Ti_5:22 WEB Lay hands hastily on no one, neither be a participant in other men's sins. Keep yourself pure.
Dan_1:8 -
"Daniel purposed...not [to] defile himself"...so how should we handle others? (Compare 1Ti_5:22 above).
Eph_5:11 WEB
Have no fellowship with the
unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them.
- How can you "reprove them" if you are knowingly
helping them happen?
More on "don't participate in other’s sins": 2Jo_1:11;
Rev_18:4
Isa_41:6-7 - Don't help with Idolatry
Jer_23:14 KJV …they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
Eze_13:22-23 WEB Because
with lies you have… strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not
return from his wicked way, and be saved alive:
Could this isolate you from society, your church, or even your own
family? In light of all this, it is easy to see why Jesus said these things:
Mat_10:16-23 KJ2000 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of
wolves: be therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware
of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you
in their synagogues; 18 And
you shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony
against them and the Gentiles… 22 And you shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake… 23 But
when they persecute you in this city, flee into another… 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not
to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against
his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law
against her mother-in-law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own
household. 37 He that loves father or mother more than me is
not worthy of me: and he that loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy
of me. 38 And he that takes not his cross, and follows
after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that finds his life shall lose it: and he
that loses his life for my sake shall find it.
- Why should we “beware of men” if they are no challenge to our
own pursuit of God?
- Why does Jesus’ expectation anticipate that A LOT of people are
going to be offended at those who follow Him?
- Where is our persecution?
- Are we “going with the flow” to some degree to keep a “peace,”
that Jesus did not come to bring?
Luk 6:22 KJ2000 Blessed are you, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
- How does this happen if we are agreeable to most men’s ways?
1Co_10:24-33 – Food Sacrificed to Idols
This entire principal of not helping sin is powerfully displayed
in avoiding food sacrificed to idols... can you imagine saying, “No, I cannot
eat your food that you prepared for me because you told me it would help you
participate in your sin of idolatry.”?
This shows the principal
of “awareness” as being the basis of your liability for going along with and
helping in other people’s sins.
Isa_26:8 b - 'your name & renown,
are the desire of our soul'... So how can I possibly help promote anything to
the contrary?
If we can relate to not promoting propaganda for Hitler if we were
in Nazi Germany, why is it we cannot relate to not promoting material that
dishonors God? Why is it that our heart would naturally
cringe away from things that would promote the death of other human beings, but
we can’t relate to naturally detesting the idea of helping pass out
things that dishonor God? Is His name and renown the
desire of our soul?
If someone were promoting literature falsely defaming your own
mother, you would not even think of helping one step of the way. If someone
asked, “Could you hand me that ‘Anti-mom’ flyer there?” You would resolutely
say “No!” Is it right that we give more honor to our
mothers than to God? It is true that our mothers bore us, but God created us.
Yes they are our authority, but God is our Lord and King:
Act 5:29 KJV …We ought to obey God rather than men.
Compare:
Rom_14:22 - 'blessed is he who does not condemn himself by what he approves'
2Co_6:12-18 CAB 12 …you are restricted by your own affections… 14 Do not become unequally yoked with unbelievers; for what participation is there for righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion is there for light with darkness? 15 And what agreement is there for Christ with Belial? [that is, the devil] Or what part is there for a believer with an infidel? [that is, “ἄπιστος” (apistos) - an unbeliever] 16 And what union is there for the temple of God with idols?... 17 Therefore "Come out from the midst of them and be separated," says the Lord. "Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you." 18 "I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty."
(Also: Isa_52:11/ Eze_20:34,
Eze_20:41)
It is time to be like Job…
Job_1:1 WEB There
was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job. That
man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God, and
turned away from evil.
Whether it is the hypocritical dirtiness of the church, or the more overt sin of the rest of the world, it is high time to Come Out From The Midst Of Them.
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By default, unless
indicated otherwise, Males are automatically socially responsible for what
their city does...
Deu_20:13-18
-- TSK
comp. w Abbigale
annihilate people (but not
the things)?
vs.
Anathema --
completely destroy everything with burning
Deu_20:16
how does this correlate with the
different levels of JCH?
for example, in the worse Judging, you
arte to "hate even the garment stained by the flesh" -- i.e. with a
full anathema, you don't take anything that belongs to them.