Spiritual Interface

Prayer, Warfare, Perception, Discernment, & Everything Involved in Being Truly Spiritual

2/6/17 (recompiled); 3/23/17 (sub-titled);

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Prayer - Warfare - Perception

Prayer - Spirit, Soul, Body - Warfare - Defeat Fear

- Perception [Repent Of Your Perception; Stop setting your heart on things!!]

Get Perceptive

 

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·        Internal vs External Warfare

 

- Connection

Authority & Healing  - Salvation Holy Spirit Bible Study

Spiritual Gifts

NoFlesh

MECenteredChristianity

Meditation

Confessions

DontTolerateYourEnemies

 

>> SPI Additions / TODO!

>> Prayer Additions / TODO!

>> SPW Additions / TODO!

>> Perception Additions / TODO!

>> aah Additions / TODO!

>> SHOSP Additions / TODO!

TODO/ Additions! -- NO Flesh

 

Personal Guidance Spirits

 

>> Prayer, Warfare, & Perception

Prayer, Perception, & Spiritual Warfare

Prayer, Perception, Hearing God, & Spiritual Warfare

>> Prayer, Spiritual Warfare, Perception, & Hearing God

>> Prayer, Perception, Hearing God, & Spiritual Warfare

>> Spiritual Connection

>> Spiritual Athletics

Encounter / Interface / Interact / Dynamics / Exploit / Apprehension / Seizing

 

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Contents

Every Kind of Prayer. 7

Where is Bowing in Bible?. 7

Bowing is Not The Only Way to Pray. 7

Public or Private Prayer?. 7

Loud or Quiet?. 7

Repetition. 7

Some Vital Prayer Examples. 8

To Do. 8

Combine: Prayer / Sp Warefare? / Defeat fear?. 8

Prayer lists. 8

Singing. 8

BBS: Keep Seeking – Prayer? SOM?. 8

How to Pray Early. 8

Watch and Pray. 9

“Watch and Pray” – Taught 9

Preceding Gethsemane Context 9

Matthew 26. 10

Mark 14. 10

Luke 22. 11

John 18. 11

The Spirit of Sleep. 11

Focused Prayer – Zeal – the essential diference. 12

Praying Out Loud. 12

AL’s Great Prayer Goals. 13

Praying to or for Dead People?. 13

BBS: "Defeat Fear"/ Prayer List: Do not Fear/ Recieve Love?. 13

Prepare Your Heart! 13

Seeking out the Mind of God. 14

How to Pray & seek God. 14

Prayer List –. 14

Purpose. 14

Unfaithful Mourning. 14

Consider Examples Of Stubborn Mourning In The Bible. 14

General Principals. 15

Righteous Mourning – Clarifications. 15

Repenting. 15

BBS RTF Notes – On the Spot Notes that were taken while doing this Bible study – Forsake Unfaithful Mourning and Give Your Life Away  16

Dayly Prayers. 17

General Thoughts. 17

Add Bible verses. 18

“The Lord’s prayer” / “The Model prayer”. 18

The Lord’s prayer 18

Side Note on Temptation: 18

Yours is the Kingdom.. 18

As in Heaven. 19

1. Hour / Day. 19

More: 19

Addicted: 19

Good Ideas: 20

Hearing God’s voice. 20

A. Presumptuously. 20

B. Kingdom Principal: 20

-Ps. 37. 20

C. If here’en from God, 20

2. Pray Early (Jesus got alone) 20

Prayer, “the good stuff”. 21

How To Hear God’s Voice. 21

Watching in Prayer. 22

Sweet Sleep. 22

When to Start The Day. 22

Profaning the Morning with Early Activity. 23

Exceptions. 23

prophets were sent, arrising early. 23

Ant 24

Sleep. 24

Sleep. 24

The Prayer of The Pervert 25

Old Versions of Prayer Lists. 25

3. Prayer- Daily Essentials: 25

All Kinds of Prayers. 25

Where is bowing in Bible? (some say its not there…) 25

Bent Knees: 25

Bowed Head: 25

“Only bowing is real prayer”. 25

“Can’t pray in Public”. 26

Biblical Public Prayer: 26

Private: 26

“Loud Vs. Quiet”. 26

Loud Cries: 26

Loud Music: 26

Quiet: 26

Remember: 26

Pray Additions. 26

Leviticus 8 – Don’t Leave the Door of The Tabernacle, Lest You Die. 26

Agonizing In Prayer 27

Spiritual Hangover 27

Pray Early! 28

The Point of Prayer, is to Get Somewhere. 28

Lifted Hands. 28

Listening. 28

Spirit, Soul, Body. 29

Many Dictionaries Blunder The Soul! 29

Cannibalism and Blood Transfusions. 33

Blood. 34

Human Wickedness – The Rebellion Of The Flesh. 34

Don't Eat Soul 34

Cooking is the Soul Solution. 35

Jesus Gave His Soul 35

Sin of Soulishness. 35

The Flesh is defiled. 35

Don't Be of the Flesh! 35

Vaccine. 35

Soulishness is a Sin! 36

Sin of Soulishness. 36

Foolish Pagan Churchy Nonsense Thinks Soul-ishness is OK! 36

Egocentrism.. 36

Self-Denial Cures Soulish Egocentrism.. 36

Spiritual Warfare. 37

Introduction. 37

Main Verses On Spiritual Warfare. 37

Main Passages. 37

A Declaration to Oppose the Devil 38

DAP Notes. 38

Internal vs External Warfare. 39

Main Passages. 39

What are Strongholds?. 39

Strongholds are Internal 39

The Auto-Responsibility of Internal Stronghold Warfare. 39

Start With Relationships to Fight Strongholds. 40

2nd Corinthians 10 – The Weapons Of Our Warfare. 40

Reverence Arch-Rulers. 41

Zechariah 3. 41

2nd Peter 2 – CAB-GRVii+. 41

Jude v 6-10 – CAB-GRVii+. 42

Ephesians 6 – The Armor of God. 43

Ephesians 6 Preceding context 43

Ephesians 6 – CAB-Greek. 43

Various Authorities. 44

Defining Demons. 44

Bible. 44

Socrates / Sokrates. 45

Strong’s. 45

Tormented vs. Demonized. 46

Explanation. 46

Righteously Hurting from Temptation. 46

Tormented. 47

Tortured somewhat Distinguished from Demonized. 47

Real Disciples Cannot be Possessed, but Can Be Tormented. 48

Permanent Disciples Repent of Cooperating with Satan. 48

Canaanite Woman’s Demonized Daughter 49

Demonized, “Lunatic” Son. 49

Willing vs. Unwilling Demonization. 49

Summary of Willing vs. Unwilling Demonization. 50

A Call to Fight 50

Repent, Follow Jesus, Do Warfare. 50

A Few Saved From Sin. 50

Still Demons, Still Temptation to give into Pressure. 50

Commitment 51

Counterfeits. 51

“But I’m Just Sick” or “Stressed” or “I have Psychological Disorders”. 51

Distinguish and Fight Fear Temptation. 51

A Return to Redeemed Anger 51

Fight! 52

Not by Mighty Ability. 52

Personal Guidance Spirits. 53

SOM on Personal Guidance Spirits. 54

Examples of People Who Stumbled in the Intoxication of Personal Guidance Spirits. 54

Personalizing Your Beliefs Might Make You Passionate, But it Does Not Make Them Right 55

Socrates’ Apology. 56

Socrates’ Symposium.. 56

The Nature of the Spiritual Realm.. 56

You Need To Be Spiritual To See And Live. 56

Beginning of Satan. 56

Limited Attack. 56

Fight 56

Trample Enemy. 56

Authority. 56

Don’t Tolerate Your Enemies or Make Excuses for Inability. 57

Gradual Spiritual Warfare. 58

Passive vs. Aggressive Resistance. 58

How to Get Out Of A Rut 59

Intro: A Teaching to Improve Spiritual Warfare. 59

Background Nature of This Teaching. 59

Goal: No Complacency! 59

Examples of Ruts You Might Have Been Stuck In. 59

Learning Objective: You Can Do More than You’ve Though. 59

Prerequisites for Swift Recovery/Vitalization. 60

Truth & Faith – Quick Summary of Recovery Pre-Requisites. 60

Who Needs Integrity to Do Spiritual Warfare?. 60

You Don’t Have to be Stuck Like I was. 60

The Orthodoxy of Harshness & Kindness Which Breaks Free from Ruts. 60

Recognizing False Doctrine -- Review.. 61

Reminder-Summaries of Kindness & Severity -- Prerequisites Review.. 62

“Correct Doctrine” is Despised by Our Culture, Which is Why We Must Make Much of it to be Saved. 63

Confessions of Justice & Power. 64

Disclaimer: God Can Hear Silent Prayers. 64

The Tongue is a Rutter 64

Out of the Overflow of the Heart, the Mouth Speaks. 64

The Fruit of The Lips. 65

We Got to Finally Get Rational And Realize Why Confessions Are Needed. 65

What Are “Good Confessions”?. 66

Good Confessions Are Essential for Justice. 67

Scriptural Examples of Confessions to God and Confrontations With the Devil 68

Power Confessions vs. Shallow Repetition. 68

Biblical Repetition. 69

Mid-Point Review.. 70

Connection is all about truth. 70

Truth is Always Good for the Poor 70

Confessions. 70

Take Care of Business. 70

Humility & Resistance – Quick Summary of the “Swift Procedure”. 71

(A) Humility & It’s Close Relationship with Repentance. 71

General Humility. 72

Getting Humble Can Often Mean Lots of Repentance. 72

The Whole Bible is Big on Forgiveness, and Repentance, and Saying Sorry A Lot 72

Repent of Helping Fear and Unbelief 73

Bad Feelings Are Often Personal Guilt that Requires Repentance. 73

Two Competing Guilt-Goals. 73

The Basics of Learning to Recognize More Subtle Guilt 73

Remembering the Beginning Cause of Your Bad Feelings. 73

Bad Sadness, Bad Mourning, & Pseudo-Victim-Mentalities Are Really Just Guilt 74

Deal With Bad Feelings: Remember Reality & Get Enabled to Do More Than Ever Before. 74

Repenting of Unknown Problems. 74

Who Can Know His Own Errors?. 75

Psalm 139 – Search/Test & Know Me. 76

(B) Resistance – Beginning Rut Warfare with The Basics. 76

Generalities of Rut Warfare. 76

Reminders of the Needful Times to Do Warfare. 76

Different Levels of What You Can Say/Do in Warfare. 76

Sacred-ify the Name with Sure Faith. 76

Breathing Events. 77

Lots of Prerequisites. 77

Let the Audience of This Part of the Teaching Be Limited to Those Who Fully Believe Us. 77

My Limited but Zealous Position on Breathing Events. 78

Ignorant & Superstitious Nervousness vs. Faithful Zeal Toward Breathing Events. 78

No “Breathing Incrimination” Allowed Among the Faithful 78

Clearing the Confusion Over Torment-ation vs. Demonization to Understand Breathing Events. 78

Long-term Triumph vs. Immediate Victories -- Believing Truth for Long-term Freedom vs. Breathing Zeal for Winning the Immediate Battle  79

Jesus Sighed, So Must We. 80

Jesus Breathing Out His Own Spirit 80

Puffs of Soul and Spirit – Puffs That Remind Us of the Blowing Natures of Soul and Spirit 80

Things I Partly Know: Breathing Events Work. 81

“Winds” in the Bible Which We Don’t Want to Tolerate in Us At All 82

Don't Force Your Breath. 82

Activate The Airways -- Sighing, Yawning, Burping, Etc. 83

Stop Working Postures -- Esp. for the Faithful Poor. 84

Doing Spiritual Warfare on Each Other. 84

Jesus & James Promote Agreement & Authoritative Forgiveness. 84

Praying For Each Other Involves…... 85

The Potency We Have Not Yet Fully Apprehended. 85

Defeat Fear. 86

General No Fear Passages. 86

Embrace Providence to Defeat Fear. 87

About this Embrace. 87

Describing The Divine Conspiracy. 87

Crisis Fear is a Result of Daily Anxiety. 89

Don’t Fear Hurt 89

Cheating Hurt = Fearing Hurt 90

Prospering Wisdom vs. Fear-Affirming Cheating. 91

Bulletproof Fearless Theology -- for Everyone. 91

Don’t Fear Anything. 91

Don’t Fear Man. 92

Don’t Fear What Might Happen to Others. 92

Peter’s Hope Gives Sufferers Salvation From Sin (i.e. the REAL Jesus) 92

Acts_14:22 – Suffering is the Way into The Kingdom.. 92

We Are Counted As Sheep For The Slaughter 93

1st Corinthians_13:7 – Love Always Covers/Protects Others?. 93

A Protected Sinner Saved by Suffering?. 93

Examples of What Not to Fear. 94

Don't Fear Wasted Work. 94

The Work Paradox -- Revisited. 94

Don’t Fear Bad Results / Loosing Stuff 94

Defining a Fearless Work Ethic. 94

Don't Trust in Riches. 94

Success Ultimately Comes From God, Not You. 95

Esther – Helping Even When Help Doesn’t Come from You. 96

Don’t Work Unfaithful Works! 96

Luk_15:11-32 – The Prodigal Son. 97

Where to Work? -- The Hart-Core of this Teaching. 97

Jeremiah 36 – Jehoiakim Burns Jeremiah's Scroll 97

Conclusion: Bullet Proof Work Can’t Be Wasted! 97

More Examples of What Not to Fear. 99

Don't Fear Rough Provision. 99

Don’t Fear Hunger 99

Review & Summary: Don't Fear Rough Provision or Hunger 99

Don’t Fear Poverty. 100

Don’t Fear Slavery. 103

Don't Fear Ignorance. 103

Don't Fear Sin. 104

Don’t Fear Being Forsaken. 105

Don't Fear Having a Terrible Life. 105

Don't Fear “Bad News”. 106

Don't Fear Tomorrow.. 106

Don't Fear Disappointment or Discouragement 106

Don't Fear the Distraction of Children. 106

Don't Fear Having Unrighteous Children. 107

Don't Fear Shame. 108

Don't Fear Foster Molestation. 108

Don’t Fear Persecution & Martyrdom.. 108

Don’t Fear Death. 109

Conclusion. 110

Some Ways to Defeat Anxiety. 111

Fear is Everywhere, Because Fear is Paganism.. 112

The Common Charge. 112

The Common Problem.. 112

Tribal Humanity Is Real Humanity. 112

The Fear of Paganism: Being Hurt and Hurting One another 113

Remember these Passages. 113

No Worry. 113

Perception. 115

Josiahs Scott 115

Detection / "physical"/external discernment 115

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Discernment Bible study. 118

Inro. 118

In General 119

Greek – Discernment Means Judging! 119

Salvation Discernment 119

Why it is an issue of Salvation. 119

What is it About Hearing God’s Voice That Saves People?. 120

Man shall not live upon bread alone…... 120

Today If You Hear 122

Order of Events. 122

Historical Problem.. 122

“Aside” to sin – in Hebrews. 123

Defining Divine Appellation. 123

All those who hear will arise. 124

Do Only What you see or Hear God Declaring. 124

Lead by the Spirit 125

Do What is Placed in your Lap. 125

Intro Preparations. 125

The Harshness of God's Testimony. 127

Isiah 55 – Heavens Higher than Earth, God’s Thought Higher Than Ours. 128

First Corinthians 2 – Spiritual People Who Know and Judging Up Everything. 128

Ah Lord! Will You Make A Full End?. 130

Not of Him Who Wills Or Runs…... 130

First Samuel 16 – God’s Testimony Rejects David’s Brothers, But Approves of David. 131

Don't Look At Their Face. 132

What Do You See?. 133

Another Jesus & Another Spirit vs. the Same Spirit 134

Malachi 3 – Return & Discern / Perceive. 135

Php 1 – Pray to Overflow in Knowledge and All Perception. 136

Heb 5 – Exercised Discernment 136

1Co 12 – The Spiritual (Gift) of Discernment 136

1Co 2 – Demonstrate The Right Spirit, with Power 137

2Ti 2 – A Solid, Firm Foundation Proclaims God’s Testimony. 137

The Spirit Pours Forth Words – Hear God’s Testimony! 137

Other Important Scripture about Discernment 138

Also see these Verses. 138

The Cost and Urgent Warning of Discernment 138

What Does it Mean to Hear God's Voice?. 138

No Image. 138

God Speaks in Many Ways. 139

Jer 32 – And I knew it was the word of the Lord. 139

But it is about Being Right, Not Colorful 139

Testing Your Hearing Before Speaking! 139

Jer_23 – Everyone’s Word is His Burden. 139

Jer CH 27-28. 139

Jer 32 – And I knew it was the word of the Lord. 139

Submission to the Bible. 140

Serious Discernment Exhortations. 140

An Early Exhortation. 140

Predestination, Mis-Discerning, and Philosophies. 143

Discernment and Predestination- 143

Mis-Discerning Hurts. 145

More. 145

Philosophies. 146

Discernment – Biblical Proofs and Biblical Exposition. 146

Primary Exhortation. 147

Fear and Trembling. 154

Desire It 154

Discernment vs. What we want to believe. 155

2 Discernments – Gifting vs. Exercising. 156

Email to Jason Dueñas. 159

A Word For Mike About Discernment 159

Rochelle Discernment Question. 160

Josiahs’ Reply To Rochelle’s Question. 160

Discernment Prayers for Angelle. 161

Other Excerpts. 166

Spiritual Gifts Questionnaire. 166

Youth Group Story. 166

Different Covenants. 166

Other Thoughts that Need to be Typed out 167

E:\Files\Js Sounds\Josiahs Preach\_Inspirations\Discernment 167

Spiritual Science. 168

Claiming Discernment Means Hell 168

Paul Loving At A Distance. 168

He Will Not Judge According to His Own Sight of His Eyes. 168

SincereConnection.com.. 168

Intentions, Motives, Sincerity, And Poverty -- What Really Makes You Approved?. 169

Lap Communication. 171

Denis Warning -- September 2005. 172

Principles of withdrawal 174

Get Perceptive. 175

The Focused Life. 175

The Danger: What the bad stuff looks like. 175

Greek Quotations from Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries. 175

Solution?. 176

Work Intentionally. 176

Focused. 176

Prayer to music is Biblical and good. 176

What does The Focused Life Look Like?. 177

Be focused in your words and selective in how you use them. 177

Scripture. 177

Preparation. 178

Rewards. 178

Weights. 178

Desires. 178

Physiological Considerations. 178

V: Dreams. 180

Generosity is not Approval 181

Repent of Your Perception. 182

Intro 1. 182

God Hates Your Flesh. 184

Genesis 6 & 8 – All the Thoughts of Man are Brooding on Evil Continually. 184

Psalm 10 – The Raging of The Strong And Independent Flesh. 186

Leper vs. Luxury?. 186

Leviticus 13, 2-3 – And The Priest Shall Examine The Plague. 186

Leviticus 13, 44-46 – The Leper Cries "Unclean". 187

Leviticus 13, 47-50 – Leprosy in the Clothing. 187

Leprosy Linked with Sin – What does This Shame of Leprosy Ultimately Mean?. 187

“I am Unclean” – The Consistent Response of the Humble. 188

Luke 5 – Peter Says, ‘Go Out from Me, in that I am a Sinful Man, Lord’ 188

2Peter 2 – The Perverts That Riot In Daytime. 188

Jude’s Hatred – Hating The Clothing Stained by the [Leprosy of the Defiled] Flesh. 188

Summary: From Leprosy in Some People’s Flesh to Sin in All Flesh. 189

Romans 8 – Jesus Judged Down Sin In Sinful Man! 189

Mourn Over Your Worthless Death Now, and Hate Your Shameful Evil Before You Are Cursed for it Forever! 189

Ecclesiastes 9 – Flesh is Full of Evil And Madness It’s Whole Life! – Let this Drive You into Exasperation Until You Repent! 190

Ecclesiastes 11 – MT: Go Ahead, Follow Your Happy Heart into Hell! vs. LXX: Only Follow Blamelessly…... 190

Jeremiah 17 – God Searches & Knows Your Exceedingly Complicated & Illusive Heart, And You Don’t! 191

Crimes of Making Guess-Judgments on Hidden Things & Boasting in Your Demonic “Perception”. 191

Numbers 15 – Following Your Own Eyes And Inner-Thoughts Is Harlotry. 191

Deuteronomy 29 – Don’t Approve of Yourself and Judge Others Out of Your Own Fornicating Perception. 192

Flesh Does Not Perceive Any Truth, But Still Wants to Govern God’s Kingdom as an Umpire! 195

Colossians 2 – Stepping / Intruding into Things He Has Not Seen – As an Audacious Umpire! 195

1Timothy 1 – Not Knowing What They Say or Affirm.. 196

Ezekiel 13, Jeremiah 14 & 23 – Prophesying From Yourself Without Seeing Anything. 196

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Jeremiah 3 – No More Selfish, Deluded Hearts Allowed For The Nations When They Come to Jerusalem.. 199

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No On-Demand Prophecy. 199

Connection. 199

Authority. 200

Every Where You Tread: Authority. 200

Feet Authority. 200

Authority And Healing. 201

God’s Will is To Heal 201

Healing And Not Assuming Not Inspiration. 201

Same Payment for Sin and Sickness. 202

Assurance of Healing & Salvation. 202

Healing from a Punishment Sickness for Past Sins. 203

Jesus Did Not Always Heal 203

H’s Notes -- Summary of Exhortation. 203

Jesus Still Needs to Be Revealed. 204

Identity That Heals. 205

Healing Procedures. 205

When Healing Stalls. 205

How Long to Keep Praying if Someone Dies. 207

Predestination Interfaces Healing. 208

Doctors & Supernatural Healing are both Biblical 211

@Al: Cultural Advantages Toward Healing?. 212

What was Paul’s Thorn in the Flesh?. 213

A Sickness Unto Death?. 213

Death by Sickness for the Righteous?. 219

Healing. 219

What About Paul’s Sickness and other Ordained Sicknesses?. 219

Absolute Verses: 220

Greek. 220

Elijah s Prayer of Faith: 220

17  that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases.". 221

1Pe_2:24  who his own self bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed2390. 221

Psa 103. 221

Heb 8. 221

Rachel Bucnis verses. 224

Chantell Verses. 225

How To Believe/ Do Faith. 225

Hebrews. 225

Review.. 225

Heb_10 – 11 – Promises/Firm Pronounced Messages. 225

Heb_11:11 – Sarah's Leading into Faith. 225

Heb_11:11 – Many Children. 225

Heb_11:11 – Targums & Youth Renewal for Pregnancy. 226

Heb_11:11 – Sarah's Laughing & Faith. 226

Side Note: Tamar & the Other Patriarchs were also Righteous. 228

1/13/14 Response. 229

Heb_11:17-18 – Circumcision > Seed. 229

the sons of Joseph. 229

Heb_11:23 - A City Child?. 230

Heb_11:26 – Moses Loved 'the name Reproaches' of the Anointed One. 230

Heb_11:27 < --- > Exo_2:14-15 – MOSES (Not “Israel”) Forsook Egypt 230

We Got to our Main Answer Last Time. 230

Moses "Not Fearing"???. 231

NT Had More Info/ Scriptures than we Have. 231

Why NOT Fearing is Morally Important 232

Heb_11:37 – Wandered. 232

MT: Gen_20:13. 232

Heb_11:37 – Sawn in Two. 232

Will I be Standing Behind?. 232

Faith Bible Study. 233

Easy Miracles. 233

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Faith Crashes. 234

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Authority Everywhere you set your feet 235

Great Commission Passes On Authority. 235

JESUS Teaching. 235

Passed On. 236

Jude/ Rebuke. 237

Judge Church. 237

Forgiveness Authority. 239

The Authority of Forgiveness. 240

Jesus Posture. 240

Always Forgive Horizontal sin. 240

Our Practice:        Clear Command: 240

*Warning* / Conclusion: 241

Extra thoughts. 241

Scrap. 243

Faith. 244

“Little Faith” Is Not The Problem, Meager Faith is! 244

References that Help Understand Meager Faith. 245

When to Go to the Doctor. 246

To An Old Friend. 246

Child Bearing. 254

Conclusion. 254

Salvation Holy Spirit Bible Study. 255

Preface. 255

Great Commission. 255

For A Time, Jesus was ‘the Comforter’ on Earth. 255

3. What John Shows Us – Jesus Still needs to come to you. 255

Living Water 256

What is this Water 256

You Do Not Yet Know, What You Know.. 256

Answer: not NOW! 256

Wait with Salvation, for the Holy Spirit 256

Anointed/ “Christened”. 257

Romans 8 – Adoption. 257

Sealed. 258

4. How Do You Get It? How Do You Know When You Got It?. 258

Prerequisites and Preparations for Getting Filled. 258

The Tendency of Acts – Hands, Tongues, Prophecy, & Verbal Overflow from God – And that’s Not All! 259

Other Acts Notes. 261

Hands for Commissioning, After Filling. 261

Timothy’s Commissioning & Gifting By Hands. 262

Remember: Cornelius – Salvation By Filling, Without Hands! 262

One Main Point: The Spiritual Realm is Multifaceted & Elusive. 262

5. Continuing Beyond Pentecost – The Evidence of Resident Favor. 262

“Gifting” is Really a “Thing” of Favor 262

Favors in Corinthians. 262

Favors in Ephesians. 263

The Reception of Favor Things is Evidence of Filling. 263

Psalms, Hymns, Spiritual Songs. 263

Spiritual Gifts. 265

Government and Gifts. 265

Gifts are for Today. 266

Gifts Given to us as they were to the Apostles. 266

It is Against the Bible to Forbid them.. 266

We are Commanded to be Zealous for them.. 266

They Need to be Done in Order 266

We are commanded to “Stir them Up”. 266

They Define us as parts of the Body of Christ 266

Clean Languages. 266

Demonic Tongues. 266

The Gift of Apostleship. 267

Apostolic Age – Whatever Happened to Apostleship?. 267

Clarifying Variations of “Apostleship”. 267

There Were More than 12 Apostles in the Bible. 267

Proofs of Apostleship. 268

Defining and Addressing Cessationism.. 270

Prophet 271

NO Flesh! 272

The flesh often pretends to be more merciful than the truth. 272

Get Law on Heart and Default to Righteousness! 272

Background: An Old Testament Wish For Internal Law.. 272

Romans 2 – A Law Unto THEMSELVES! 272

2 Corinthians 3 – where is the Law Written Now?. 273

Galatians 4 – When Truth Comes You No Longer Need A Schoolmaster 273

1 Corinthians 9 – Become All Things To All Men – Under Favor, Not Law.. 273

Defaulting To What Is Right 274

Exhortations We Should Not Even Have To Say... 274

Hebrews 5 – You Ought To Be Teachers By Now... Train Your Senses! 275

Heresy is Ultimately Judged as Intentional 277

Idols. 279

True Prophets. 280

 

 

Prayer!

Josiahs Scott, Fri., 3/28/03; 2/10/04; 11/2/10; 11/28/10; (2/26/11-2/28/11; 3/2/11; 3/6/11 morning); 9/19/12; 10/17/12; 5/17/13; 3/3/14-3/4/14; …2/6/17 (recompiled)

TAGS: Pray!

 

 

>> Prayer Additions / TODO!

 

 

Prayer List

This is one of the main reasons I have the prayer list on my website. The prayer list is more or less a record of all of the major ways God has saved me repeatedly throughout my entire spiritual life. Just about every time I’m ‘saved again’ (in a particular way) I make a few updates to the prayer list. I constantly affirm to those I’m privilege to disciple: ‘if you make it to heaven in the end, salvation will never cease to be an issue for you while you’re here on earth!’ – I also tell people: ‘I believe that there is a lot of hope for your life… But I don’t have any idea how you’re ever gonna make it unless you spend at least 2 hours a day in prayer. In the Bible it was even more!’

 

Prayer Challenge

6/3/24

 

Try to pray 2 or more hrs / day (Sounds overwhelming at first, but just wait till you learn...!)

 

1hr in the morning

1hr Mid-day

1hr night (sometimes more -- remember: "pray until you don't sin")

 

Praying in the morning is the most vital place to start.

 

It's not a science, but a helpful, Biblical a template, and once you learn to pray you can't live without it

 

What to Pray?

Start with this list every morning, (and sometimes continue throughout the day):

(1) Worship👋 & ♥Love

(2) Zeal🔥 / Faith

(3) Filled w Spirit

(4) Humility <👣

(5) Confess, Repent, Forgive

(6) Crucifixion (Die to Flesh)

(7) Spiritual Warfare

(8) Lust Warfare 

(9) Intercession 👥👪

(10) Bible 📖

 

 

 

Every Kind of Prayer

[Originally part of Prayer Lists: 4/8/04; 11/28/07; 7/8/09-7/10/09; 8/25/09; 3/1/10; 2/26/11; 12/21/11; 3/25/13; 11/25/17]; 7/5/19 (Recompiled)

 

Clarifying Questions and Misunderstandings to stir up every manner of Biblical Prayer

 

Where is Bowing in Bible?

Bent Knees: 1Ki_8:54; 1Ch_29:20 (Gr: knee; Heb: head); Ezr_9:5; Dan_6:10-11; Eph_3:14

Bowed: Exo_4:31; Neh_8:6; Luk_18:10-14; >> 2Ch_20:18, others: fell on face >> laying on bed

>> Clapping hands and stomping feet

>> “Spiritual Hitting” is Biblical – learn how much do it…  Don’t let social shame rob you of zealously maxing out on faithful strikes of obtaining greatness 

>> Postrate prayer posture – From sticking refs (stomach sticks to ground)

>>Prayer/ sleep: "i know your rising up and your sitting/laying down"

 

Bowing is Not The Only Way to Pray

Sitting: Mat_26:36-46/ Mar_14:32-42/ Luk_22:39-46; Act_1:14; Act_2:1-4; Act_2:15 (the “third hour” is the hour of prayer)

Standing: Zec_3:1; 1Sa_1:26; Mar_11:25; Luk_18:10-14; (Mat_6:5)

Pacing, Laying, & More: 2Ki_4:31-37 – This is by far my favorite prayer story!

With Lifted Eyes: Psa_3:3; Psa_121:1-2; Psa_123:1; Isa_38:14; Joh_11:41; Joh_17:1; (Luk_18:13); >> Dan_4:34 (Nabuchodonosor looked up & received his understanding back); “Watching in prayer” -- implies opened eyes

With Lifted Hands: Job_16:17; Psa_26:6, Psa_134:2; 1Ki_8:54; Ezr_9:5; Neh_8:6; 1Ti_2:8; (Isa_1:15; Mal_1:9-10; Jam_4:8)

>> lift up the hands that hang limp

 

Public or Private Prayer?

Public: 1Ki_8:22-54; Neh_4:9; Joh_17:1-26; Act_1:14; Act_2:1-4, Act_2:15; Act_3:1; Act_4:24-31

Private: Mat_6:5-6; Act_10:30; Heb_5:7

 

Loud or Quiet?

Loud Cries: Ezr_10:1 (LXX); Heb_5:7 -Showed that He feared God!

Loud Music: Psa_33:3; Psa_98:4; Psa_150:5; Ezr_3:11-13;

Quiet: Psa_46:10; Pro_10:19; Ecc_5:2-3; Ecc_5:7;  Mat_6:7

Pray Silently in Heart: 1Sa_1:12-13; Gen_24:12-15 (esp. Gen_24:15 LXX); Neh_2:4-5

 

Repetition

Good Repetition: Mat_26:36-46 / Mar_14:32-42

>> Holy, Holy, Holy; Psalms: Goodness endures forever, & many others

>> Jewish refrains contain repetition

Bad Repetition: Mat_6:7-8

 

Some Vital Prayer Examples

Moses: Exo_24:15-18; Exo_32:7-14; Exo_32:30-34; Exo_33:7-23; Exo_34:1-35;

The Lord's Prayer: Mat_6:9-13; Luk_11:2-4

Others: Isa_6:1-13; Jer_1:4-10; Dan_8:27; Dan_9:1-23; Ezr_9:1-15; Ezr_10:1; Jas_5:13-18; For many other examples, read the book of Psalms

 

[Note: To understand Bible Book Abbreviations, see the Bibliography on TrueConnection.org]

 

Neh_8:6 WEB  and Ezra blessed Yahweh, the great God. All the people answered, Amen, Amen, with the lifting up of their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshiped Yahweh with their faces to the ground.

Neh_8:6 CAB  And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God; and all the people answered, and said, Amen, lifting up their hands. And they bowed down and worshipped the Lord with their face to the ground.

Neh_8:6  καὶ ηὐλόγησεν Εσδρας κύριον τὸν θεὸν τὸν μέγαν, καὶ ἀπεκρίθη πᾶς ὁ λαὸς καὶ εἶπαν Αμην ἐπάραντες χεῖρας αὐτῶν καὶ ἔκυψαν καὶ προσεκύνησαν τῷ κυρίῳ ἐπὶ πρόσωπον ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν.

 

 

12/20/14

Pacing: ...march according to spirit

 

> Add shamefacedness to prayer list (bowed heads) - any more to add to no dating/ avoiding premarital romance

 

> Add: 9/13/11

“if you are not constantly seeking, loving on, speaking to and worshiping Him you lose focus…”

 

 

 

 

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Prescribed Worship

Other dates; 1/30/18

 

>> where is main teaching for this??

 

>> Deu_26:1-10 -- Prescribed worship; Dictated words of a prayer…

>> Rom_8: -- We don’t know what we are obligated to pray…

 

YouTube:

Note: God does not enjoy you by default.

Churchy Pagan perverts like to say that god wants to hear you express yourself.

The Bible actually says to DIE to yourself!

God is not interested in your nasty creativity, apart from His own cleansing and help.

Therefore, Monotheistic worship is always a prescribed ordeal.

If it is not based on and fulfilling prophecy (or at least, on fulfilling known prophecy on a basic level) then it nasty and abominable.

The prayer of the wicked is abomination to God.

 

>> after you fulfill justice, then you rejoice.

>> no helping the Levite (comp. 1Co_9:)? No rejoicing. Just morning if you are evil and perverted and atheistic toward those who labor in the truth.

>> Deu_26:10-19

>> obedience is an absolutely required prerequisite for rejoicing!!!

>> I have HEARD & DONE (Deu_26:13, etc.)

>> Sync: LO | SPI

 

 

To Do

Combine: Prayer / Sp Warefare? / Defeat fear?

4/27/13

 

 

Prayer lists

Defeat fear (sp warfare)

 

Singing

Interesting side thought-

In the hebrew, H5961 seems to speak of a high female voice. And it is applied to singing.

Two ref- 1Ch_15:20 and Psa_46:1

 

 

BBS: Keep Seeking – Prayer? SOM?

Mat_7:1 – SOM

 

Keep seeking; no reson to stop looking!; check your character; don't be as people who served God all the days of Samuel

 

keep seeking means you:

- are always intense

- not lackig in business, fervent in spirit

- never loose down for the night

 

daughter possessed – children's bread

always pray – unjust judge

 

 

Prayer is giving yourself to the addiction that will save your soul and make you great and glorious in God's kingdom
(~2012)

 

How to Pray Early

From Learning to pray over and over again for 20 years

9/8/17

 

Prerequisite: Absolutely No Anxiety

·        This is why we pray at night, leaving nothing unaddressed

·        fix chronic/repeated anxiety with 5 hr prayers, if possible (Spiritual Warfare, crying out, zeal, faith, etc.)

 

Goal: start day as soon as the sun dawns (if not before, as pro 31)

 

>>Scrip:

No Turning on bed

·        Remember that naps are lawful, and maybe even required so you can be obedient to the goal of getting up early to pray.)

·        We might use naps to fight sleep deprivation, as well as to knock out the fear of not getting a minimal amount of sleep. -- not worrying about “getting a minimal amount of sleep” is mission-critical for praying in the morning

 

Jump out with as much energy (faith) as possible, and/or (at least),

Sing when brain is still waking (bypasses limitations/weaknesses of flesh, and goes right into the potency of the spirit)

 

Especially As the sun dawns, at least at some point, focus on praise and Thanksgiving (for the fresh Daily Bread of new mercies given to you as a creature, every new day that you are still alive)

 

Watch & Pray

 

Main Passages -- Summary

Mat_26:36

Mar_14:32

Luk_22:39

(Joh_18)

 

“Watch and Pray” – Taught

 

Mat_24:42 CAB  Watch therefore, for you do not know in what hour your Lord is coming.

Mat_24:42 Greek  γρηγορεῖτε οὖν, ὅτι οὐκ οἴδατε ποίᾳ ὥρᾳ ὁ Κύριος ὑμῶν ἔρχεται.

 

Mat_25:11-13 CAB  Afterward [ὕστερον] the remaining virgins [αἱ λοιπαὶ παρθένοι] came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open [ἄνοιξον] to us!'  12  "But he answered [ἀποκριθεὶς] and said, 'Assuredly I say to you, I do not know [οὐκ οἶ] you.'  13  "Watch therefore [γρηγορεῖτε οὖν], for you do not know [οὐκ οἴδατε] the day nor the hour ·in which the Son of [the] Man is coming [ἐν ἧ ὁ Υἱὸς του ἀνθρώπου ἔρχεται].

Mat_25:11-13 Greek  ὕστερον δὲ ἔρχονται καὶ αἱ λοιπαὶ παρθένοι λέγουσαι· κύριε κύριε, ἄνοιξον ἡμῖν.  12  ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν· ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, οὐκ οἶδα ὑμᾶς.  13  γρηγορεῖτε οὖν, ὅτι οὐκ οἴδατε τὴν ἡμέραν οὐδὲ τὴν ὥραν ἐν ἧ ὁ Υἱὸς του ἀνθρώπου ἔρχεται.

 

Mar_13:32-37 CAB  "But ·[around] concerning [Περὶ] ·that day [there] or [the] hour no one knows [τῆς ἡμέρας ἐκείνης ἢ τῆς ὥρας οὐδεὶς οἶδεν], not [οὐδὲ] even the angels in heaven, nor [οὐδὲ] the Son, but [εἰ μὴ] the Father.  33  ·Take heed [look (out)!], stay awake [watch] and pray [Βλέπετε, ἀγρυπνεῖτε καὶ προσεύχεσθε]; ·for you do not know when the time [season] is [οὐκ οἴδατε γὰρ πότε ὁ καιρός ἐστιν].  34  It is like a man going away on a journey [ἀπόδημος], having left [ἀφεὶς] his house and having given [δοὺς] authority [ἐξουσίαν] to his servants [δούλοις], and to each his work [ἑκάστῳ τὸ ἔργον αὐτοῦ], and commanded the doorkeeper that he should watch [θυρωρῷ ἐνετείλατο ἵνα γρηγορῇ].  35  Watch therefore [γρηγορεῖτε οὖν], for you do not know [οἴδατε] when [πότε] the master [lord] [ὁ κύριος] of the house is coming--at evening [ὀψὲ], or at midnight [μεσονυκτίου], or at dawn [ἀλεκτοροφωνίας], or ·early in the morning [πρωΐ]--  36  lest having come suddenly [ἐξαίφνης], he should find [εὕρῃ] you sleeping [καθεύδοντας].  37  And the things I say to you, I say to all: watch!"

Mar_13:32-37 Greek  Περὶ δὲ τῆς ἡμέρας ἐκείνης ἢ τῆς ὥρας οὐδεὶς οἶδεν, οὐδὲ οἱ ἄγγελοι ἐν οὐρανῷ, οὐδὲ ὁ υἱός, εἰ μὴ ὁ πατήρ.  33  Βλέπετε, ἀγρυπνεῖτε καὶ προσεύχεσθε· οὐκ οἴδατε γὰρ πότε ὁ καιρός ἐστιν.  34  ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἀπόδημος, ἀφεὶς τὴν οἰκίαν αὐτοῦ, καὶ δοὺς τοῖς δούλοις αὐτοῦ τὴν ἐξουσίαν, καὶ ἑκάστῳ τὸ ἔργον αὐτοῦ, καὶ τῷ θυρωρῷ ἐνετείλατο ἵνα γρηγορῇ.  35  γρηγορεῖτε οὖν· οὐκ οἴδατε γὰρ πότε ὁ κύριος τῆς οἰκίας ἔρχεται, ὀψὲ ἢ μεσονυκτίου ἢ ἀλεκτοροφωνίας ἢ πρωΐ·  36  μὴ ἐλθὼν ἐξαίφνης εὕρῃ ὑμᾶς καθεύδοντας.  37  ἃ δὲ ὑμῖν λέγω, πᾶσι λέγω· γρηγορεῖτε.

 

Luk_21:36 CAB  Watch therefore, praying always that you may be counted worthy to escape everything that is about to happen, and to stand before the Son of Man."

Luk_21:36 Greek  ἀγρυπνεῖτε οὐν ἐν παντὶ καιρῷ δεόμενοι ἵνα καταξιωθῆτε ἐκφυγεῖν ταῦτα πάντα τὰ μέλλοντα γίνεσθαι καὶ σταθῆναι ἔμπροσθεν τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου.

 

Luk_6:12-13 CAB  Now it came to pass in those days that He went out to the mountain to pray, and He was spending the night in prayer to God.  13  And when it became day, He summoned His disciples, and having chosen twelve from them, whom He also named apostles:

Luk_6:12-13 Greek  ᾿Εγένετο δὲ ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ταύταις ἐξῆλθεν αὐτὸν εἰς τὸ ὄρος προσεύξασθαι, καὶ ἦν διανυκτερεύων ἐν τῇ προσευχῇ τοῦ Θεοῦ.  13  καὶ ὅτε ἐγένετο ἡμέρα, προσεφώνησε τοὺς μαθητὰς αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐκλεξάμενος ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν δώδεκα, οὓς καὶ ἀποστόλους ὠνόμασε,

 

 

Epistles Teach “Watch and Pray”

1Co_16:13, Eph_6:18 (see: ArmorofGod) 1Pe_4:7, 1Pe_5:8, Rev_16:15

 

Preceding Gethsemane Context

 

Mat_26:17-30 – Passover, betrayal predicted, Communion [“Last Supper”], sing hymn, Mount of Olives (Mat_26:30) / Gethsemane [oil press] (Mat_26:36)

 

Mar_14:12-26 – Day of unleavened bread/Passover, betrayal predicted, Communion, hymn, Mount of Olives (Mar_14:26) / Gethsemane [oil press] (Mar_14:32)

 

Luk_22:7-39 – Day of Unleavened Bread/Pascal Lamb (Luk_22:7)/Passover (Luk_22:15), Communion (Luk_22:17-21), Betrayal predicted (Luk_22:22-23), dispute on which would be the greatest (Luk_22:24-27) you remained through my trials (Luk_22:28) I am giving you a kingdom, you’re going to be sitting on thrones (Luk_22:29-30), Peter’s fall predicted/Satan’s request to “sift” (Luk_22:31-34), take Swords (Luk_22:35-38), Mount of Olives (Luk_22:39)

 

Joh_18:1-12 – went across the winter stream Kidron, where there was a garden

 

Luk_22:15 CAB  Then He said to them, "I have fervently desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;

Luk_22:15 Greek  καὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτούς· ἐπιθυμίᾳ ἐπεθύμησα τοῦτο τὸ πάσχα φαγεῖν μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν πρὸ τοῦ με παθεῖν·

 

Passover, Foot Washing, Long Teaching and Exciting Prayer

Joh_13:1-38Joh_14:1-31Joh_15:1-27Joh_16:1-33Joh_17:1-26

 

 

Matthew 26

Mat_26:30-57 CAB  And having sung hymns, they went out to the Mount of Olives.  31  Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me on this night, for it is written: 'I will strike the Shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'  32  "But after I have been raised, I will go before you to Galilee."  33  Peter answered and said to Him, "Even if all are made to stumble because of You, yet I will never be made to stumble."  34  Jesus said to him, "Assuredly I say to you that on this night, before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times."  35  Peter said to Him, "Even if I have to die with You, by no means will I deny You!" And likewise said all the disciples.  36  Then Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and said to the disciples, "Sit here while I go off and pray over there."  37  And taking along Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, He began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed.  38  Then Jesus said to them, "My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death. Stay here and watch with Me."  39  He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will."  40  Then He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, "What? Were you not strong enough to watch with Me one hour?  41  Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. Indeed the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."  42  Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, let Your will be done."  43  And He came and found them sleeping again, for their eyes were heavy.  44  And leaving them, He went away again, and prayed a third time, saying the same words.  45  Then He came to His disciples and said to them, "Sleep now, and rest. Behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners.  46  Rise up, let us be going. See, he who betrays Me is at hand."  47  And while He was still speaking, behold, Judas, one of the twelve came, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and elders of the people.  48  Now the one betraying Him had given them a sign, saying, "Whomever I shall kiss, He is the One; seize Him."  49  And immediately he went up to Jesus and said, "Greetings, Rabbi!" and kissed Him.  50  But Jesus said to him, "Friend, why have you come?" Then they came and laid hands on Jesus and seized Him.  51  And behold, one of those with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, and striking the servant of the high priest, he cut off his ear.  52  But Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place, for all those who take the sword shall perish by the sword.  53  Or do you think that I cannot now call upon My Father, and He will furnish Me with more than twelve legions of angels?  54  How then would the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must happen thus?"  55  In that hour Jesus said to the crowds, "Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs to arrest Me? I sat daily with you, teaching in the temple, and you did not seize Me.  56  But all this has happened so that the Scriptures of the prophets may be fulfilled." Then all the disciples forsook Him and fled.  57  And those having seized Jesus led Him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were gathered together.

Mat_26:30-57 Greek  Καὶ ὑμνήσαντες ἐξῆλθον εἰς τὸ ὄρος τῶν ἐλαιῶν.  31  Τότε λέγει αὐτοῖς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· πάντες ὑμεῖς σκανδαλισθήσεσθε ἐν ἐμοὶ ἐν τῇ νυκτὶ ταύτῃ· γέγραπται γάρ, πατάξω τὸν ποιμένα, καὶ διασκορπισθήσονται τὰ πρόβατα τῆς ποίμνης.  32  μετὰ δὲ τὸ ἐγερθῆναί με προάξω ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν Γαλιλαίαν.  33  ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ Πέτρος εἶπεν αὐτῷ· εἰ καὶ πάντες σκανδαλισθήσονται ἐν σοί, ἐγὼ οὐδέποτε σκανδαλισθήσομαι.  34  ἔφη αὐτῷ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· ἀμὴν λέγω σοι ὅτι ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ νυκτὶ πρὶν ἀλέκτορα φωνῆσαι τρὶς ἀπαρνήσῃ με.  35  λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ Πέτρος· κἂν δέῃ με σὺν σοὶ ἀποθανεῖν, οὐ μή σε ἀπαρνήσομαι. ὁμοίως καὶ πάντες οἱ μαθηταὶ εἶπον.  36  Τότε ἔρχεται μετ᾿ αὐτῶν ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἰς χωρίον λεγόμενον Γεθσημανῆ, καὶ λέγει τοῖς μαθηταῖς· καθίσατε αὐτοῦ ἕως οὗ ἀπελθὼν προσεύξωμαι ἐκεῖ.  37  καὶ παραλαβὼν τὸν Πέτρον καὶ τοὺς δύο υἱοὺς Ζεβεδαίου ἤρξατο λυπεῖσθαι καὶ ἀδημονεῖν.  38  τότε λέγει αὐτοῖς ο Ιησοῦς· περίλυπός ἐστιν ἡ ψυχή μου ἕως θανάτου· μείνατε ὧδε καὶ γρηγορεῖτε μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ.  39  καὶ προελθὼν μικρὸν ἔπεσεν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ προσευχόμενος καὶ λέγων· πάτερ μου, εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρελθέτω ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο· πλὴν οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ᾿ ὡς σύ.  40  καὶ ἔρχεται πρὸς τοὺς μαθητὰς καὶ εὑρίσκει αὐτοὺς καθεύδοντας, καὶ λέγει τῷ Πέτρῳ· οὕτως οὐκ ἰσχύσατε μίαν ὥραν γρηγορῆσαι μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ.  41  γρηγορεῖτε καὶ προσεύχεσθε, ἵνα μὴ εἰσέλθητε εἰς πειρασμόν. τὸ μὲν πνεῦμα πρόθυμον, ἡ δὲ σὰρξ ἀσθενής.  42  πάλιν ἐκ δευτέρου ἀπελθὼν προσηύξατο λέγων· πάτερ μου, εἰ οὐ δύναται τοῦτο τὸ ποτήριον παρελθεῖν ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ ἐὰν μὴ αὐτὸ πίω, γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου.  43  καὶ ἐλθὼν εὐρίσκει αὐτοὺς πάλιν καθεύδοντας· ἦσαν γὰρ αὐτῶν οἱ ὀφθαλμοὶ βεβαρημένοι.  44  καὶ ἀφεὶς αὐτοὺς ἀπελθὼν πάλιν προσηύξατο ἐκ τρίτου τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον εἰπὼν.  45  τότε ἔρχεται πρὸς τοὺς μαθητὰς αὐτοῦ καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς· καθεύδετε τὸ λοιπὸν καὶ ἀναπαύεσθε. ἰδοὺ ἤγγικεν ἡ ὥρα καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου παραδίδοται εἰς χεῖρας ἁμαρτωλῶν.  46  ἐγείρεσθε ἄγωμεν· ἰδοὺ ἤγγικεν ὁ παραδιδούς με.  47  Καὶ ἔτι αὐτοῦ λαλοῦντος ἰδοὺ ᾿Ιούδας εἶς τῶν δώδεκα ἦλθε, καὶ μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ ὄχλος πολὺς μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων ἀπὸ τῶν ἀρχιερέων καὶ πρεσβυτέρων τοῦ λαοῦ.  48  ὁ δὲ παραδιδοὺς αὐτὸν ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς σημεῖον λέγων· ὅν ἂν φιλήσω, αὐτός ἐστι· κρατήσατε αὐτόν.  49  καὶ εὐθέως προσελθὼν τῷ ᾿Ιησοῦ εἶπε· χαῖρε, ῥαββί, καὶ κατεφίλησεν αὐτόν.  50  ὁ δὲ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἶπεν αὐτῷ· ἑταῖρε, ἐφ᾿ ᾧ πάρει; τότε προσελθόντες ἐπέβαλον τὰς χεῖρας ἐπὶ τὸν ᾿Ιησοῦν καὶ ἐκράτησαν αὐτόν.  51  καὶ ἰδοὺ εἶς τῶν μετὰ ᾿Ιησοῦ ἐκτείνας τὴν χεῖρα ἀπέσπασε τὴν μάχαιραν αὐτοῦ, καὶ πατάξας τὸν δοῦλον τοῦ ἀρχιερέως ἀφεῖλεν αὐτοῦ τὸ ὠτίον.  52  τότε λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· ἀπόστρεψόν σου τὴν μάχαιράν εἰς τὸν τόπον αὐτῆς· πάντες γὰρ οἱ λαβόντες μάχαιραν ἐν μαχαίρῃ ἀποθανοῦνται.  53  ἢ δοκεῖς ὅτι οὐ δύναμαι ἄρτι παρακαλέσαι τὸν πατέρα μου, καὶ παραστήσει μοι πλείους ἣ δώδεκα λεγεῶνας ἀγγέλων;  54  πῶς οὖν πληρωθῶσιν αἱ γραφαὶ ὅτι οὕτω δεῖ γενέσθαι;  55  ᾿Εν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ εἶπεν ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς τοῖς ὄχλοις· ὡς ἐπὶ λῃστὴν ἐξήλθετε μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων συλλαβεῖν με; καθ᾿ ἡμέραν πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐκαθεζόμην διδάσκων ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ, καὶ οὐκ ἐκρατήσατέ με.  56  τοῦτο δὲ ὅλον γέγονεν ἵνα πληρωθῶσιν αἱ γραφαὶ τῶν προφητῶν. Τότε οἱ μαθηταὶ πάντες ἀφέντες αὐτὸν ἔφυγον.  57  Οἱ δὲ κρατήσαντες τὸν ᾿Ιησοῦν ἀπήγαγον πρὸς Καϊάφαν τὸν ἀρχιερέα, ὅπου οἱ γραμματεῖς καὶ οἱ πρεσβύτεροι συνήχθησαν.

 

 

Mark 14

Mar_14:26-54 CAB  And having sung hymns, they went out to the Mount of Olives.  27  Then Jesus said to them, "You all will be made to stumble because of Me on this night, for it is written: 'I will strike the Shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'  28  "But after I am raised, I will go before you into Galilee."  29  But Peter said to Him, "Even if all will be made to stumble, yet not I."  30  Jesus said to him, "Assuredly I say to you, that you, today on this night, before the rooster crows twice, you will deny Me three times."  31  But he kept saying all the more profusely, "If it is necessary for me to die with You, by no means will I deny You!" And they all said likewise.  32  And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane; and He said to His disciples, "Sit here while I pray."  33  And He took Peter, James, and John with Him, and He began to be greatly amazed, and deeply depressed.  34  Then He said to them, "My soul is deeply grieved to the point of death. Remain here and watch."  35  And having gone forward a little, He fell on the ground, and He was praying, that if it were possible, the hour might pass from Him [εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρέλθῃ ἀπ᾿ αὐτοῦ ἡ ὥρα vs. Joh_12:27 – και τι ειπω πατερ σωσον με εκ της ωρας ταυτης].  36  And He said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible to You. Take this cup away from Me; nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will."  37  Then He came and found them sleeping, and He said to Peter, "Simon, are you sleeping? Were you not strong enough to watch one hour?  38  Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. Indeed the spirit is eager, but the flesh is weak."  39  And He went away again and He prayed, saying the same thing.  40  And having returned, He found them sleeping again, for their eyes were heavy; and they did not know what they should answer Him.  41  Then He came the third time and said to them, "Sleep on now, and take your rest [καθεύδετε τὸ λοιπὸν καὶ ἀναπαύεσθε]. It is enough! The hour has come. Behold, the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners.  42  Rise up, let us go. See, the one who betrays Me is at hand."  43  And immediately, while He was still speaking, Judas arrived, being one of the twelve, and with him a large crowd with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.  44  Now His betrayer had given to them a sign, saying, "Whomever I shall kiss, He is the One; take Him and lead Him away safely." [κρατήσατε αὐτὸν καὶ ἀπαγάγετε ἀσφαλῶς]  45  And when he arrived, immediately he approached Him and said to Him, "Rabbi, Rabbi!" and he affectionately kissed Him.  46  Then they laid their hands on Him and seized Him.  47  But a certain one of those standing by drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.  48  Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Have you come out, as against a bandit, with swords and clubs to arrest Me?  49  Daily I was with you in the temple teaching, and you did not seize Me. But that the Scriptures may be fulfilled."  50  Then they all forsook Him and fled.  51  Now a certain young man had followed Him, having a linen cloth thrown around his naked body. And the young men seized him,  52  but leaving behind the linen cloth, he fled from them naked.  53  And they led Jesus away to the high priest; and with him were assembled all the chief priests, the elders, and the scribes.  54  But Peter followed Him from a distance, right into the courtyard of the high priest, and he was sitting together with the attendants and warming himself at the fire.

Mar_14:26-54 Greek  Καὶ ὑμνήσαντες ἐξῆλθον εἰς τὸ ὄρος τῶν ἐλαιῶν.  27  καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς ὅτι πάντες σκανδαλισθήσεσθε ἐν ἐμοὶ ἐν τῇ νυκτὶ ταύτῃ· ὅτι γέγραπται, πατάξω τὸν ποιμένα καὶ διασκορπισθήσονται τὰ πρόβατα·  28  ἀλλὰ μετὰ τὸ ἐγερθῆναί με προάξω ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν Γαλιλαίαν·  29  ὁ δὲ Πέτρος ἔφη αὐτῷ· καὶ εἰ πάντες σκανδαλισθήσονται, ἀλλ᾿ οὐκ ἐγώ.  30  καὶ λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· ἀμὴν λέγω σοι ὅτι σὺ σήμερον ἐν τῇ νυκτὶ ταύτῃ πρὶν ἢ δὶς ἀλέκτορα φωνῆσαι τρίς ἀπαρνήσῃ με.  31  ὁ δὲ ἐκπερισσοῦ ἔλεγε μᾶλλον· ἐὰν με δέῃ συναποθανεῖν σοι, οὐ μή σε ἀπαρνήσομαι. ὡσαύτως δὲ καὶ πάντες ἔλεγον.  32  Καὶ ἔρχονται εἰς χωρίον οὗ τὸ ὄνομα Γεθσημανί, καὶ λέγει τοῖς μαθηταῖς αὐτοῦ· καθίσατε ὧδε ἕως προσεύξωμαι.  33  καὶ παραλαμβάνει τὸν Πέτρον καὶ τὸν ᾿Ιάκωβον καὶ ᾿Ιωάννην μεθ᾿ ἑαυτοῦ, καὶ ἤρξατο ἐκθαμβεῖσθαι καὶ ἀδημονεῖν.  34  καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς· περίλυπός ἐστιν ἡ ψυχή μου ἕως θανάτου· μείνατε ὧδε καὶ γρηγορεῖτε.  35  καὶ προελθὼν μικρὸν ἔπεσεν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, καὶ προσηύχετο ἵνα, εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρέλθῃ ἀπ᾿ αὐτοῦ ἡ ὥρα,  36  καὶ ἔλεγεν ἀββᾶ ὁ πατήρ, πάντα δυνατά σοι· παρένεγκε τὸ ποτήριον ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ τοῦτο, ἀλλ᾿ οὐ τί ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλὰ τί σύ.  37  καὶ ἔρχεται καὶ εὑρίσκει αὐτοὺς καθεύδοντας, καὶ λέγει τῷ Πέτρῳ· Σίμων, καθεύδεις; οὐκ ἴσχυσας μίαν ὥραν γρηγορῆσαι;  38  γρηγορεῖτε καὶ προσεύχεσθε, ἵνα μὴ εἰσέλθητε εἰς πειρασμόν· τὸ μὲν πνεῦμα πρόθυμον, ἡ δὲ σὰρξ ἀσθενής.  39  καὶ πάλιν ἀπελθὼν προσηύξατο τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον εἰπών.  40  καὶ ὑποστρέψας εὗρεν αὐτοὺς πάλιν καθεύδοντας· ἦσαν γὰρ οἱ ὀφθαλμοὶ αὐτῶν καταβαρυνόμενοι καὶ οὐκ ᾔδεισαν τί ἀποκριθῶσιν αὐτῷ.  41  καὶ ἔρχεται τὸ τρίτον καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς· καθεύδετε τὸ λοιπὸν καὶ ἀναπαύεσθε. ἀπέχει· ἦλθεν ἡ ὥρα· ἰδοὺ παραδίδοται ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου εἰς τὰς χεῖρας τῶν ἁμαρτωλῶν.  42  ἐγείρεσθε, ἄγωμεν· ἰδοὺ ὁ παραδιδούς με ἤγγικε.  43  Καὶ εὐθέως, ἔτι αὐτοῦ λαλοῦντος, παραγίνεται ᾿Ιούδας, εἷς τῶν δώδεκα, καὶ μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ ὄχλος πολὺς μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων, παρὰ τῶν ἀρχιερέων καὶ τῶν γραμματέων καὶ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων.  44  δεδώκει δὲ ὁ παραδιδοὺς αὐτὸν σύσσημον αὐτοῖς λέγων· ὃν ἂν φιλήσω, αὐτός ἐστι· κρατήσατε αὐτὸν καὶ ἀπαγάγετε ἀσφαλῶς.  45  καὶ ἐλθὼν εὐθέως προσελθὼν αὐτῷ λέγει· ῥαββὶ ῥαββί, καὶ κατεφίλησεν αὐτόν·  46  οἱ δὲ ἐπέβαλον ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν τὰς χεῖρας αὐτῶν καὶ ἐκράτησαν αὐτόν.  47  Εἷς δέ τις τῶν παρεστηκότων σπασάμενος τὴν μάχαιραν ἔπαισε τὸν δοῦλον τοῦ ἀρχιερέως καὶ ἀφεῖλεν αὐτοῦ τὸ ὠτίον.  48  καὶ ἀποκριθεὶς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· ὡς ἐπὶ λῃστὴν ἐξήλθετε μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων συλλαβεῖν με·  49  καθ᾿ ἡμέραν ἤμην πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ διδάσκων, καὶ οὐκ ἐκρατήσατέ με· ἀλλ᾿ ἵνα πληρωθῶσιν αἱ γραφαί.  50  καὶ ἀφέντες αὐτὸν ἔφυγον πάντες.  51  Καὶ εἷς τις νεανίσκος ἠκολούθησεν αὐτῷ, περιβεβλημένος σινδόνα ἐπὶ γυμνοῦ· καὶ κρατοῦσιν αὐτόν οἱ νεανίσκοι·  52  ὁ δὲ καταλιπὼν τὴν σινδόνα γυμνὸς ἔφυγεν ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν.  53  Καὶ ἀπήγαγον τὸν ᾿Ιησοῦν πρὸς τὸν ἀρχιερέα· καὶ συνέρχονται αὐτῷ πάντες οἱ ἀρχιερεῖς καὶ οἱ πρεσβύτεροι καὶ οἱ γραμματεῖς.  54  καὶ ὁ Πέτρος ἀπὸ μακρόθεν ἠκολούθησεν αὐτῷ ἕως ἔσω εἰς τὴν αὐλὴν τοῦ ἀρχιερέως, καὶ ἦν συγκαθήμενος μετὰ τῶν ὑπηρετῶν καὶ θερμαινόμενος πρὸς τὸ φῶς.

 

Luke 22

Luk_22:39-54 CAB  And going out, He went to the Mount of Olives, according to His custom, and His disciples also followed Him.  40  And having come to the place, He said to them, "Pray that you may not enter into temptation."  41  And He was withdrawn from them about a stone's throw, and He knelt down and prayed,  42  saying, "Father, if You will, remove this cup from Me--nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done."  43  Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him.  44  And being in agony, He prayed more fervently. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down onto the ground.  45  And rising up from prayer, coming to the disciples, He found them sleeping from sorrow.  46  Then He said to them, "Why do you sleep? Rise up and pray, lest you enter into temptation."  47  And while He was still speaking, behold, a crowd; and he who was called Judas, one of the twelve, was going before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him.  48  But Jesus said to him, "Judas, do you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?"  49  And those around Him, seeing what was about to happen, they said to Him, "Lord, shall we strike with the sword?"  50  And a certain one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.  51  But Jesus answered and said, "Stop right there." And touching his ear, He healed him.  52  Then Jesus said to the chief priests, captains of the temple, and the elders who had come to Him, "Have you come out, as against a bandit, with swords and clubs?  53  When I was with you daily in the temple, you did not try to seize Me. But this is your hour, and the power of darkness."  54  And having arrested Him, they led Him and brought Him into the house of the high priest. And Peter was following from a distance.

Luk_22:39-54 Greek  Καὶ ἐξελθὼν ἐπορεύθη κατὰ τὸ ἔθος εἰς τὸ ὄρος τῶν ἐλαιῶν· ἠκολούθησαν δὲ αὐτῷ καὶ οἱ μαθηταί αὐτοῦ.  40  γενόμενος δὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ τόπου εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· προσεύχεσθε μὴ εἰσελθεῖν εἰς πειρασμόν.  41  καὶ αὐτὸς ἀπεσπάσθη ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν ὡσεὶ λίθου βολήν καὶ θεὶς τὰ γόνατα προσηύχετο  42  λέγων· πάτερ, εἰ βούλει παρενεγκεῖν τοῦτο τὸ ποτήριον ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ· πλὴν μὴ τὸ θέλημά μου, ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν γινέσθω.  43  ὤφθη δὲ αὐτῷ ἄγγελος ἀπ᾿ οὐρανοῦ ἐνισχύων αὐτόν.  44  καὶ γενόμενος ἐν ἀγωνίᾳ ἐκτενέστερον προσηύχετο. ἐγένετο δὲ ὁ ἱδρὼς αὐτοῦ ὡσεὶ θρόμβοι αἵματος καταβαίνοντες ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν.  45  καὶ ἀναστὰς ἀπὸ τῆς προσευχῆς, ἐλθὼν πρὸς τοὺς μαθητὰς εὗρεν αὐτοὺς κοιμωμένους ἀπὸ τῆς λύπης,  46  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· τί καθεύδετε; ἀναστάντες προσεύχεσθε, ἵνα μὴ εἰσέλθητε εἰς πειρασμόν.  47  ῎Ετι δὲ αὐτοῦ λαλοῦντος ἰδοὺ ὄχλος, καὶ ὁ λεγόμενος ᾿Ιούδας, εἷς τῶν δώδεκα, προήρχετο αὐτῶν, καὶ ἤγγισε τῷ ᾿Ιησοῦ φιλῆσαι αὐτόν.  48  ᾿Ιησοῦς δὲ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· ᾿Ιούδα, φιλήματι τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου παραδίδως;  49  ἰδόντες δὲ οἱ περὶ αὐτὸν τὸ ἐσόμενον εἶπον αὐτῷ· Κύριε, εἰ πατάξομεν ἐν μαχαίρᾳ;  50  καὶ ἐπάταξεν εἷς τις ἐξ αὐτῶν τὸν δοῦλον τοῦ ἀρχιερέως καὶ ἀφεῖλεν αὐτοῦ τὸ οὖς τὸ δεξιόν.  51  ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἶπεν· ἐᾶτε ἕως τούτου· καὶ ἁψάμενος τοῦ ὠτίου αὐτοῦ ἰάσατο αὐτόν.  52  εἶπε δὲ ᾿Ιησοῦς πρὸς τοὺς παραγενομένους ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν ἀρχιερεῖς καὶ στρατηγοὺς τοῦ ἱεροῦ καὶ πρεσβυτέρους· ὡς ἐπὶ λῃστὴν ἐξεληλύθατε μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων;  53  καθ᾿ ἡμέραν ὄντος μου μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ οὐκ ἐξετείνατε τὰς χεῖρας ἐπ᾿ ἐμέ. ἀλλ᾿ αὕτη ἐστὶν ὑμῶν ἡ ὥρα καὶ ἡ ἐξουσία τοῦ σκότους.  54  Συλλαβόντες δὲ αὐτὸν ἤγαγον καὶ εἰσήγαγον αὐτὸν εἰς τὸν οἶκον τοῦ ἀρχιερέως· ὁ δὲ Πέτρος ἠκολούθει μακρόθεν.

 

 

John 18

Joh_18:1-12 CAB  After saying these things, Jesus went out with His disciples across the winter stream Kidron, where there was a garden, into which He and His disciples entered.  2  Now Judas, the one betraying Him, also knew the place, because Jesus often gathered there also with His disciples.  3  Then Judas, having taken the detachment of soldiers, and attendants from the chief priests and Pharisees, came there with lanterns, torches, and weapons.  4  Jesus therefore, knowing all things coming upon Him, went out and said to them, "Whom do you seek?"  5  They answered Him, "Jesus the Nazarene." Jesus said to them, "I AM." And Judas, the one betraying Him, was standing with them.  6  Therefore when He said to them, "I AM," they stepped back and fell to the ground.  7  Then He asked them again, "Whom do you seek?" And they said, "Jesus the Nazarene."  8  Jesus answered, "I have told you that I AM! Therefore if you seek Me, allow these men to go,"  9  so that the word might be fulfilled which He said, "Those whom You have given Me I have lost none."  10  Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And the servant's name was Malchus.  11  Then Jesus said to Peter, "Put your sword into the sheath. Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?"  12  Then the detachment of soldiers and the captain and the attendants of the Jews arrested Jesus and bound Him.

 

The Spirit of Sleep

 

 

Isa_29:10 WEB  For Yahweh has poured out on you a spirit of deep sleep [תרדמהH8639], and has closed your eyes, the prophets; and he has covered your heads, the seers.

Isa_29:10 CAB  For the Lord has made you to drink a spirit of deep sleep; and He shall close their eyes, and the eyes of their prophets and of their rulers, who see secret things.

Isa_29:10 Greek  ὅτι πεπότικεν ὑμᾶς κύριος πνεύματι κατανύξεως καὶ καμμύσει τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν προφητῶν αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν ἀρχόντων αὐτῶν, οἱ ὁρῶντες τὰ κρυπτά.

 

κατάνυξις

katánuxis; gen. katanúxeōs, fem. noun from katanússō (G2660), to prick, pierce, stab. A piercing through, penetrating, especially of sleep or slumber, stupefying, hence the condition, stupor, slumber, dullness (Rom_11:8; Sept.: Psa_60:3; Isa_29:10). To be silent, dumb (Lev_10:3; Psa_4:4; Dan_10:9, Dan_10:15).”

 

húpnos (G5258), sleep

 

1Sa_26:12  AndG2532 David tookG2983 G* theG3588 spearG1393.2 andG2532 theG3588 flaskG5316.2 of theG3588 waterG5204 fromG575 beforeG4314 his head,G2776 G1473 andG2532 they went forth.G565 AndG2532 there was notG3756 G1510.7.3 oneG3588 seeing,G991 andG2532 there was notG3756 G1510.7.3 oneG3588 knowing,G1097 andG2532 there was notG3756 G1510.7.3 oneG3588 awakening --G1825 allG3956 were sleeping,G5258.1 forG3754 a stupefactionG2285 from the lord G2962 fellG1968 uponG1909 them.G1473

 

Psa_127:2  ForG1519 [2vainG3155 3for youG1473 1it is]G1510.2.3 G3588 to rise up early;G3719 you ariseG1453 afterG3326 G3588 sitting down,G2521 O onesG3588 eatingG2068 the breadG740 of grief,G3601 wheneverG3752 he should giveG1325 [2toG3588 3his beloved onesG27 G1473 1sleep].G5258

 

Pro_3:24  For ifG1437 G1063 you should sit down,G2521 you will be without fear;G869.2 G1510.8.2 and ifG1437 G1161 you should repose,G2518 [2with pleasureG2234 1you shall sleep].G5258.1

Mat_1:24  [3having been awakenedG1326 1AndG1161 G3588 2Joseph]G* fromG575 theG3588 sleepG5258 didG4160 asG5613 [4assignedG4367 5to himG1473 1theG3588 2angelG32 3 of the Lord],G2962 andG2532 he took to himselfG3880 G3588 his wife.G1135

Luk_9:32  G3588 AndG1161 PeterG* andG2532 the onesG3588 withG4862 himG1473 wereG1510.7.6 being weighed downG916 with sleep;G5258 and staying awakeG1235 G1161 they beheldG1492 G3588 his glory,G1391 G1473 andG2532 theG3588 twoG1417 menG435 G3588 standingG4921 with him.G1473

Joh_11:13  [3had spokenG2046 1ButG1161 G3588 2Jesus]G* concerningG4012 G3588 his death;G2288 G1473 but theyG1565 G1161 thoughtG1380 thatG3754 concerningG4012 theG3588 restingG2838 G3588 of sleepG5258 he spoke of.G3004

Act_20:9  And there was sitting downG2521 G1161 a certainG5100 young one,G3494 by nameG3686 Eutychus,G* byG1909 theG3588 window,G2376 being sunkG2702 [2sleepG5258 1in a deep].G901 And with Paul reasoningG1256 G3588 G* for a long time ,G1909 G4183 having sunkenG2702 fromG575 theG3588 sleep,G5258 he fellG4098 fromG575 theG3588 third levelG5152 to below,G2736 andG2532 was lifted upG142 dead.G3498

Rom_13:11  AlsoG2532 this,G3778 knowingG1492 theG3588 time,G2540 thatG3754 the hourG5610 weG1473 alreadyG2235 from out ofG1537 sleepG5258 arise;G1453 for nowG3568 G1063 [2 is nearerG1451 3usG1473 G3588 1deliverance]G4991 thanG2228 whenG3753 we trusted.G4100

 

Rom_11:8 CAB  Just as it is written: "God has given them a spirit of stupor [πνεῦμα κατανύξεως], eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear, to this very day."

Rom_11:8 Greek  καθὼς γέγραπται· ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Θεὸς πνεῦμα κατανύξεως, ὀφθαλμοὺς τοῦ μὴ βλέπειν καὶ ὦτα τοῦ μὴ ἀκούειν, ἕως τῆς σήμερον ἡμέρας.

 

But “piercing down” also means… “To be silent, dumb (Lev_10:3; Psa_4:4; Dan_10:9, Dan_10:15)”

 

 

Aeschylus, Doubtul Fragment 250 (from Plutarch, On Love 15. 758B) (trans. Weir Smyth) (Greek tragedy C5th B.C.) :

"[Hypnos speaks:] ‘For Nyx (Night) brought me not forth to be the lord of the lyre, nor to be seer or leech, but to lull to rest men's souls.’"

 

 

 

Focused Prayer – Zeal – the essential diference

Use prayer list

Insist on less than about 2hrs

On knees repenting often

- we really do need to list out the things that we need to repent of

- never find ways to compulse & avoid faith

- instead of this choose to believe anyway

 

 

Write and repeate out loud: I chose to believe that believing is within my reach and that I can believe and see my entire life instantly changed. - reach out when saying these things... As to hoock your faith onto them and pull them into your heart.

 

 

Praying Out Loud

4/7/12; 4/10/12

- make noise in prayer, and not care if people hear

- what if they hear me pray?

- what if I they perceive my hypocrisy?

- feel like they will despise you…

- they hear you “love God in prayer” but they know you are not living fervent toward/ before them…

- am I just being independent?

- internal struggles

 

Good

- it should not change the way we look at each other

- “not care if people hear you”

-

 

Something about the word “hypocrisy”… – Jesus really did warn against this, but what was their sin?

Jesus went out in the wilderness

What’s the point of closing the door if people can hear you

Does not seem private!

Matthew 6

 

Big struggle: how you are perceived

Big Solution: Pray that you would be invisible (make my heart feel)

(Works with singing too!)

- don’t preserve/ cultivate your appearance

- despising makes you fear that people will despise you, the same way you struggle feeling despising against them… and you need to eradicate it quickly!

 

Why do the perfect Scriptures command you to do opposite things in different passages??? –

We believe Bible= perfect, so how can this be?

Go back and ask yourself what are the different contexts,

and then ask yourself how those contexts are different?

Then you to point yourself in the right direction…

reason being… they are in opposite contexts

 

Why should we let ourselves be hear out loud?

- what I did once, and T-bowing

- appear before men

- who you are around!

- forcing pagans to hear your faith (intrusion) vs. sharing your life with disciples

- the reason that you pray corporteley is to agree, so this does put legitimate restriction on how to pray corporately

- people heard Jesus: - garden… they heard him! He prayed vehenimately (Heb)… stone’s throw away (Gos)…

walking along the road…

 

 

(1) first step: get theology straight

 

(2) Second step is to actually believe it

 

You Pray to God, & God May Answer for Their Sake

Joh_12:27-30 CAB  "Now My soul has been troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save Me from this hour'? But for this reason I came to this hour.  28  Father, glorify Your name." Then a voice came out of heaven, saying, "I have both glorified it and will glorify it again."  29  Therefore the crowd which was standing and heard were saying that it had thundered. Others were saying, "An angel has spoken to Him."  30  Jesus answered and said, "This voice did not come for My sake, but for your sake.

 

However, we may pray as a priest in oder to teach how to pray in directing everyone corporately to connect with God.

 

Not sure what my roomie would call this but here is what we talked about:

 

AL’s Great Prayer Goals

Waking up

Getting up

Staying up/awake

Actually praying

Getting started with the day

 

 

Praying to or for Dead People?

3/13/12

2Sa_1:26

 

saul to Samuel

 

Heb_12:1

 

BBS: "Defeat Fear"/ Prayer List: Do not Fear/ Recieve Love?

3/25/13; 3/28/13; 9/16/18

 

No Fear, Only Faith / Do not fear, only believe: Mar_5:36/Luk_8:50

>> Sync multiple occurrences herein

 

all of Wis_17: !

 

Prepare Your Heart!

 

Kings/ Chronicles: he prepared his heart to see the lord

 

Sir_2:17 Brenton  They that fear the Lord will prepare their hearts, and humble their souls in his sight,

 

Seeking out the Mind of God

4/29/13; 5/17/13 (lots of compilation, incl. How to Pray & seek God); 8/9/20

 

David wondering why someone was struck dead when trying to carry the ark into Jerusalem

 

David wondering why there was a famine

 

David: should we go to battle? should we pursue them in war?

 

 

BBS: prayer lists: when the man hit the ground w arrows

 

 

How to Pray & seek God

- you do want to be desporate and cry out...but...

- You cannot work into God in prayer and twist His arm

(you dare not do this lest you  loose your soul)

 

 

- rather than working, you are to be waiting and seeking for faith. As soon as you have found it you have won and can now chase after God.

 

 

Prayer List –

 

Purpose

an aid, and spring board, not definitive end all, a starter for those needing a place to start

 

there is some sort of 'flexibility' ...as long as you are accomplishing all of these things, but be watchful about not needing them, because you could come all the way back to square one where you actually need to be instructed by the prayer list

 

Unfaithful Mourning

Update:

- pertains to you not knowing of sin (see beginning and slavery references)

- unknown sin is what you don't immediately confess

- Real christians have a life-posture of repenting of sins as soon as they have committed them

- if you come to pray and repent first thing every time, it implies that you have not been repenting already throughout the day

 

- Removing bad morning from women will make such good spouses and remove one of the primary distresses of marriage! (if that comes)

 

Andrea’s Clarification Summary

Last Sunday I mentioned how it is a common practice amongst American christians to approach prayer by first acknowledging their sins and then seeking to honor God. Such a practice can indicate the presence of an unclean conscience. Thank God this does not have to be a normal posture amongst the righteous who have been cleansed of dead works and an unclean conscience by the sprinkling of the blood of Christ upon their hearts (Heb_9:13-14 see also Heb_9:7). This posture does not call for wallowing in guilt, but rather a bold approaching of the throne of favor, being that their past and ignorant sins have been atoned for by the blood of Jesus (Heb_10: 17-23). This is why repenting is the fifth thing on the prayer list, when our conscience is unaware of sins, then we can freely draw near to God by faith, and later in prayer ask him if there are any ignorant sins we can repent of. Now, although this is the overall posture, there are times where our conscience is aware of sin and there is need to humble ourselves and repent before God initially in prayer. An example could be waking up sluggishly and dwindling in bed in laziness instead of heading to prayer. Such an act should be repented of initially in prayer.... 

 

 

As it relates to the prayer list: The Orderly Significance of Denying Unfaithful Mourning

2/26/11-2/28/11; 3/2/11

 

Sometimes there is a stubborn rebellion in our hearts that seems to know how to “mourn” but refuses to know how to be zealous. For this reason, it is very frequently that we need to discipline ourselves to be zealous first before we let ourselves partake in the privilege of mourning.

 

Consider Examples Of Stubborn Mourning In The Bible

Eze_8:14 - Ultimately: wicked women mourning for the death of their pagan god

Gen_4:3-16  - Cain over his sacrifice: God did not like his downcast face [esp. Gen_4:5-7; Gen_4:13 (LXX); and see: 1Jn_3:12; Heb_11:4; Jud_1:11]

- sad enough to mourn, but not broken enough to repent [compare rich young ruller]

- we often recognize this in children, while not recognizing in ourselves in prayer!

Num_11:1-3; Num_11:4-6; Num_11:10 - Israelites mourning because they did not have meet in the wilderness - this means grumbling... Stubborn refusal to believe... A mourning that angers God [TSK: Psa_78:18-20, Psa_106:14; Rom_13:14; 1Co_10:6] – also see: Jas_4:1

- The pain of this ungodly faithless (unfaithful/ treacherous) mourning comes out frequently in the context of leadership (i.e. Heb_13:17 – "that they may do it with joy, not grief...for that would be unprofitable to you")

- Moses not displeased at circumstances, but at their hard response to their circumstances

Mar_3:1 - at times: Pharisees refused to answer (Mar_3:4)

Luk_4:14-30 – they were mad at truth (Luk_4:23-29), refusing to rejoice in favor (Luk_4:18-22)

Mar_6:52 - disciples hardened

Mar_8:13-21 - disciples forgot to take bread [TSK: Mar_7:18, Mar_8:17-18, Mar_8:21; Mat_16:9-11; Luk_24:25...Mar_16:14]

 

Luk_22:45-46 - could not pray in the garden as a result of some bad mourning; [compare what Jesus said earlier: Joh_14:1, (Joh_14:15), Joh_14:27; Joh_16:6; and: at times Jesus asked them and they answered not a word Mar_9:33-34]

 

Think: be impressed with Me so you can be encouraged (way/truth/life/seen the Father)

 

General Principals

I was trying to remember why I put the prayer list in the order I did... And then I remembered...

 

Mat_6:9-12 - the Lord's prayer does not let you mourn (Mat_6:12) until you have first acknowledged His transcendence (Mat_6:9), desired the honor of His Name (Mat_6:9-10), burned for and hastened His kingdom (Mat_6:10), and ask for His bread (Mat_6:11).

- This was a great mystery to me at first: how is it right to pray when you know you are still carrying sin from the things you have done throughout the day, and how is God going to hear you if you don’t get forgiven of all your sins first? But this ended up discipling me as to how to not be like the pagans of darkness I grew up around where the first thing out of their mouth every time they prayed was always: "Lord forgive us of our sins..." (every prayer starts with the same thing...again and again) because we know we are always doing evil, and sin is the first thing we identify with in prayer every time we pray! – Although it is a quickly fading attempt at reverence and humility, yet, this says some powerful things about how we relate to God in this pitiful age of constant slavery to sin!

- Heb_9 & 10

Heb_3:6-19 - if we hold the rejoicing

- it mentions the darkness of Cain (as seen previously), Esau (Heb_12:16; Rom_9:13), and the Israelites (as seen previously)

1Jn_1:1-10 – in 1John obedience and reciprocation (1Jn_1:6-7) come before forgiveness of sins (1Jn_1:8-10 - 1Jn_2:1-6)

Gal_5:1 - stand in freedom

- Gal/ Eph/ COL - rejoicing in being corporately filled... Clean unhindered love for each other... Unity by faith and "homothumadon"... Rejoicing over the Philippians and Thessalonians... Boasting over Timothy -I have no one like him (Php_2:19-23)- - all of these things cannot happen with the stubbornness of flesh pretending to be pious by hiding unbelief within uncooperative disobedient mourning

Act_23:1 - I have lived in all good conscious until this day

 

Righteous Mourning – Clarifications

- the SOM starts with blessing mourning: Mat_5:2-12

- There is a time for psalm 51, but in our church culture we are looking at our constant posture which shows that something is wrong and disagreeing with the model that Jesus left us in His prayer

- we do not by this diminish the excellence of righteous mourning, but we preserve it by attacking the disobedient counterfeit that is done outside of faith (and whatever is not of faith is sin)

- the Israelites/ Cane knew how to 'mourn,' but their hearts did not know how to repent – what does this say about the substance of his mourning?? So we see that just as kindness to others can be counterfeited and hypocritical, so also mourning can be counterfeited.

- when you fasted was it really for me?

- What does God actually desire of you? Mostly brokenness and humility, but that it should be done while obeying Him, not by finding a refuge for your unbelief within the disobedience of mourning without faith

- Despair mourning is never part of Jesus' gospel

 

Repenting

2Co_7:10 - Worldly sorrow

- we need to seek that our heart would become un-hard so we can lift up and zealously burn for God

Ecc_11:10 - put sorrow from your heart that is vain (Ecc_2:23)

1Sa_15:22-23 - to obey is better than sacrifice (Saul learned how to sorrow, but never actually stopped being skilled at hardening his heart)

Heb_13:15 - sacrifice of praise [Psa_27:6; Psa_54:6; see TSK]

 

- Repenting of bad sorrow does not mean chaos throughout your soul

- It means sound repentance and determination to obey God with reasonable and pleasing zeal

- Quite often we do not need to find more reasons to mourn in unbelief, but we need to take ourselves up and obey (compare Heb_10:36)

- What is it that God actually desires? The Bible tells us, and it does not include the stubbornness of the flesh

- You can mourn without liking God; God does not like this kind of mourning!

- The main thing God requires of us is to obey in faith; We ought not to use our own mourning as an excuse to avoid pleasing God by this obedience

 

BBS RTF Notes – On the Spot Notes that were taken while doing this Bible study – Forsake Unfaithful Mourning and Give Your Life Away

Some Applications for Al and beyond

12/2/11-12/3/11 (transcription 12/3/11 italics added in by helpers AB & S); 12/4/11; 12/10/11

 

Prerequisite Reading:

Isa_58; – Hailey quoted this in prayer (12/3/11) after the teaching, even though I did not tell her that this was on the list of reading for this study

1Co_7:30

 

Do not look for comfort on this earth

zeal is like a parachute that will save your life when you are falling down, when you feel like lost energy, (?or mourn, or other limitations....zeal is connected to salvation....?)?

Al salvation tied to being zealous for justice and truly after that vindication will come

 

Mourning passes away, but zeal is impressive to God. So give yourself to zeal, because God's honor is to be preferred above our comfort when we are in the courts of the king

(Eph_2, Heb_12:18 , Heb_4:16::. Sometimes it is easy to mourn because you do not have comfort in this life (1Co_8:

Are you mourning for God, or for temporary comfort? So don't mourn when your enemies lie to you, this is false and fleeting. Instead, reserve zeal for God, he prefers that you'd burn for Him.

[but if you believe the monster in the closet…] This is offensive and dishonoring to God that you'd believe the devil over God. This is a form of injustice. This is a time to get zealous for justice.

 

Mourn as is necessary to serve God, and burn as required to honor Him.

-This is the boundary for mourning.
-Am i serving God in my mourning?

-Wisdom despises mourning over the temporary disruption of your comfort on this Earth.

-He does care about trials and affliction. Let Him wipe your tears away, and [then] get zealous for God.

 

But do not over indulge in "mourning" beyond what is selfless.

It is not fitting to go from serving God to comforting ourselves.

A selfless life is given over to the honor of God, and a proper heart is too occupied with promoting reverence than to be distracted with self-pity.

A pleasure seeker in this life will care about the comforts of men and will be too distracted to honor God.

Are you concerned about the judgments and thoughts of men here on earth or are you occupied with zeal?

The comforts here from men are passing away, and because of this the zeal of God is eternal.

 

Zeal honors God, and sulking destroys men.

Zeal is concerned with honoring another, while sulking is seeking to establish or preserve comfort on this earth

[see Psa_69:9; Joh_2:17]

 

A beloved son and an honored Father are in order with each other.

-If you do righteousness, you've come out of God. [Love is automatically projected out of Him]

- Honor is [automatically] owed back to Him.

[- Because of this, when a Father Loves a son, and the son honors the Father, they both pertain to each other]

 

It is a matter of praise to see a person deny themselves and honor what is right rather than serving their own comfort. So comes the master of the house to serve that servant who only knew to do His master's will.

-The two parables: Part 1, the servant continues to serve; part 2 is where the Master comes and serves the faithful servants (luk_12:37)

 

So salvation comes to the obedient!

Do you want an answer for life and righteousness? Then burn for Him... And will He fail to honor you?

How will you say that God has come behind, if His servant is not occupied with His honor? Do justice to hear and you too will be heard. Speak agreeably and you will be spoken to with agreement. Do life and live. Care about justice and certainly it will care about your life.

 

A sacrificial life is a sweet aroma to God, and pertains well to His reverence and His company.

(Aisha partly referred to this in prayer before we did the study)

 

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Scrap:

 

Zeal is necessary

Much more than, and preferred above current morning

- give and it will be given back to you... - who is blind but my servant?

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Do Not Bow Before The Wicked

12/5/11-12/6/11; 12/12/11; 12/13/11

 

Don’t Let The Righteous Fall Before The Wicked!

Pro_25:26 CAB  As if one should stop a well, and corrupt a spring of water, so is it unseemly [ἄκοσμον] for a righteous man to fall before an ungodly man  [δίκαιον πεπτωκέναι ἐνώπιον ἀσεβοῦς].

 

The Wicked Flees...

Pro_28:1 CAB  The ungodly man flees when no one pursues, but the righteous is confident [πέποιθεν – a form of πείθω (G3982)] as a lion.

 

The Ultimate Result of Such Fear

Luk_8:36-37 CAB  And those also who saw reported to them how the demon-possessed man was healed.  37  Then the whole multitude from the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to go away from them, because *they were gripped with great fear [φόβῳ μεγάλῳ συνείχοντο]. And He got into the boat and returned.

 

(Also see: Mar_5:15-16)

 

Al Notes and War Solutions

 

demonic attacks?

Mat 4- There's a time when you're broken before God. And then there are times when the devil comes to you. When he comes to you, you don't want it to be misunderstood that you are being emotional because of his bullying?

 

But what if you need help and you want to cry out to God for help?

 

If the Lord is particularly sending the devil in your face then it is not so you will humble yourself but that you would fight?

 

Jos_11:20 CAB For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts to go forth to war against Israel, that they might be utterly destroyed, that mercy should not be granted to them, but that they should be utterly destroyed, as the Lord said to Moses.

 

If God sends the devil to you, that is one of the indicators as to what he wants for you at that moment.

 

Jdg_8:20 CAB  And he said to Jether his firstborn, Rise and kill them. But the lad drew not his sword, for he was afraid, for he was yet very young.

 

The Lord is serious. He is not joking when he says in Revelation that cowards won't make it. If you are His follower then he will be determined to make a warrior out of you.

 

Hint, hint; nudge, nudge; (take your sword out!)

 

The Book of Judges notes Isreal’s failures with ultimate end when you don’t learn to war (Dan is removed from the map and forsakes their heritage and apostates)

 

The Lord, like Gideon, gets really excited & about his children taking the sword and cutting to pieces the already weakened king. Do you believe that He's stronger than that pathetic prince, and that He's standing right behind you? The end of not fighting is that you will end up not trusting Jesus

 

The end results of not fighting: 1. You won't defend Gideon's honor 2. When Jesus comes to help and cast out demons then you will not see it as helpful and you will not trust Jesus but on the contrary, want him to leave.

 

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Places where God told them to ''get up''

 

Al

- I think your mourning is acceptable

- feeling bad about mourning – is this where discernment comes in?

 

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Dayly Prayers

>>> Add / Clarify

 

General Thoughts

· Quiet = sometime only way to hear His “still small voice,” (1 King_19:12) tends toward humility

· Loud = Faith, eagerness, desperation, break-threw

· Sign of maturity to pray all kinds of prayers (+ you stay interested and awake)

 

 

Add Bible verses

- Pray pacing, & laying on bead

- “Loner Life” is meaningless! – So Truly Love People.

 

 

 

 

“The Lord’s prayer” / “The Model prayer”

Mat_6:5-15 (esp. Mat_6:9-13); Luk_11:1-4

 

 

 

The Lord’s prayer

“The Model prayer”

 

Luk_11:1 WEB  It happened, that when he finished praying in a certain place, one of his disciples said to him, "Lord, teach us to pray, just as John also taught his disciples."*

 

Þ Don’t be impressed with formalities (See Mt. 5:5-8) but you should be impressed with other people’s prayers that are “powerful and effective” (Jas_5:16-18).

(Read Mt. 5:5-8)

 

Mat_6:9-13 KJB  So pray like this: Our Father in the heavens, Hallowed be your name.  10  Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as it is in heaven, so also upon the earth.  11  Give us today the bread we need.  12  And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.  13  And don’t lead us into temptation3986, but deliver us from evil one: Because yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, into forever. Amen.

 

Mat_6:9-13 MKJV-Based  Therefore [you all 5210] pray like this: ‘Our Father 3962 [who is] in Heaven, Your name is Holy.  10  Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.  11  Give us this day our daily bread;  12  and forgive us our debts as we also forgive our debtors.  13  And lead us not into temptation,3986 (ßß) but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen’.

 

·  This last underlined thought is repeated (partly quoted below): 1Chr_29:10-11, Rev_1:6

·  This prayer is not a limitation on the variety of praying, (either in length or content) but a “model” (so to speak / as they say) starting point to lead into other prayers:

Jesus prayed differently as well: Jn 17 (whole chapter).

Also: Mar_14:36 (Addresses God The Father differently)

* Don’t be impressed with formalities (See Mt. 5:5-8) but you should be impressed with other people’s prayers that are “powerful and effective” (Jas_5:16-18; Also compare Read Mt. 6:5-8)

 

 

Side Note on Temptation:

A. Pray so you will not enter it: Mat_26:41, Mar_14:38, Lk 22:40, 46

B. External (everyone goes through: Jas_1:12 - Blessed is the man

  who endures)

  vs. Internal (Downward spiral. Something that you “enter into”)

C. Jesus was lead in to dessert to be tempted, but not lead in to

  temptation

D. Important Scriptures: Jas_1:2-3, 12-15, 1Cor_10:13

     Don’t think it strange 1Pet_4:12

E. Can Be Good For you: Lk 22:28; Act_20:19; Jam_1:2; 1Pe_1:6;

  1Pe_4:12, 2Pet_2:9

F  Done by the devil: Lk 4:13

 

 

 

Yours is the Kingdom

10/4/16; 7/12/19

 

1Chr_29:10-11, Rev_1:6

 

1Ch_29:11 WEB  Yours, Yahweh, is the greatness, the power, the glory, the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, Yahweh, and you are exalted as head above all.

1Ch_29:11 CAB  Yours, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the might; for You are Lord of all things that are in heaven and upon the earth; before Your face every king and nation is troubled.

1Ch_29:11  σοί, κύριε, ἡ μεγαλωσύνη καὶ ἡ δύναμις καὶ τὸ καύχημα καὶ ἡ νίκη καὶ ἡ ἰσχύς, ὅτι σὺ πάντων τῶν ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς δεσπόζεις, ἀπὸ προσώπου σου ταράσσεται πᾶς βασιλεὺς καὶ ἔθνος.

 

>> TSK

>> Google: Yours is the Kingdom -- is it original

 

As in Heaven

Deu_11:21 WEB  that your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which Yahweh swore to your fathers to give them, as the days of the heavens above the earth.

Deu_11:21 LB that your days may be long, and the days of your children, upon the land which the Lord swore to your fathers to give to them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.

Deu_11:21  ἵνα πολυημερεύσητε καὶ αἱ ἡμέραι τῶν υἱῶν ὑμῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, ἧς ὤμοσεν κύριος τοῖς πατράσιν ὑμῶν δοῦναι αὐτοῖς, καθὼς αἱ ἡμέραι τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς.

 

 

1. Hour / Day

 

A. Why an hour? Mt. 26:40-41 / *Mk 14:27 & 37-38,

      Different Times of Day- *Act_1:14Þ2:1Þ2:15, 3:1, 10:30, 6:4

       3 Times Of Prayer- (for Jews) Dan_6:10, *Ps 55:17

B. At least pray some in the morning, (this means that you have to get up earlier)

      The Morning- Ps. 5:2-3, *55:17, 88:13, *Mk 1:35

       Think: “First Fruits”- of the day, Exo_23:15-19, 34:26, Lev_23:10, Neh_10:35, Pro_3:9, Eze_44:30

C. How to pray an Hour

Sing, be still/quiet/listen…

D. John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible:

seeing it is but the third hour of the day; or nine of the clock in the morning: for till this time it was not usual with the Jews, if men of any sobriety or religion, so much as to taste anything: the rules are these (h),  "it is forbidden a man to taste anything, or do any work after break of day, until he has prayed the morning prayer.   Now. "the morning prayer, the precept concerning it is, that a man should begin to pray as soon as the sun shines out; and its time is until the end of the fourth hour, which is the third part of the day (i). So that a man might not taste anything, either of eatables or drinkables, until the fourth hour, or ten o'clock in the morning: hence it is said (k), that "after they offered the daily sacrifice they ate bread, Nyev ebra Nmzb

 

Every Church persons response:

“It doesn’t mater how long you pray, but how your heart is.  Its not about quantity but quality…”

ÞThat’s the point, it takes time to bake a cake; It necessitates time in prayer to have quality prayer!!!

 

 

 

More:

(Not fully developed thoughts)

 

● Remember for the rest of your life: Never stop doing different things in prayer. Keep it fresh and new.  “You can’t expect different results doing the same things.”

 

● Prayer Journal

 

● If you feel like it, then clap loud before the Lord.  If you don’t feel like it, clap loud before the Lord

 

● When I’m in trouble: 1. Remember “the Armor,” 2. Have I done warfair?

 

(Hard Drive) –but still be a revolutionary -Good zeal based on knowledge

 

● Quiet/ Loud- (Jesus prayed with loud cries, wait on Lord, be still and know)

 

 

Addicted:

● You were mint to be addicted to something!

                                                  “Addicted themselves to the ministry”

            “Paul a bondslave…”

            “Present your members a servants of righteousness”

Become addicted to prayer!

            Jesus may be drawing back just to see if you will notice…

            ‘God withdrew from king at end of his life… to test his heart’

Only way you’ll notice God’s removal is if you are addicted

Only way to keep praying threw out the day

Þ Think: Me praying Stairway at Graphic Design building

 

Good Ideas:

Singing? (Make melody in heart…)

 

Tongues?

1Co_14:5  I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh, with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

 

Strive in prayers with me…: Rom_15:30, Col_4:12

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hearing God’s voice

1.  Be slow/Humble, NOT QUICK: “ God told me… ”

 

A. Presumptuously

Dut_18:20-22  But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.  21  If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken?  22  when a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn't follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.

 

-Even if bad prophecy comes true, only follow Yahweh: Dut_13:1-5

 

B. Kingdom Principal:

if it’s of God 1. It Works, &  2. It Endures

Seams to work… Doesn’t endure:

-Ps. 37

-like the Jn. 15:16 –Remaining fruit

 

C. If here’en from God,

 1. Love people 2. Salty, (more hard core, think: ) 3. Not condemned (dull ache) 4. Produce hope 5. Keeps on despite feelings 6. Not spooky/ Sensual

 

1Co_14:3  But he that prophesies speaks unto men to edification, (‘Archatecture’ that is concretely…confirmation) and exhortation, and comfort.  4  He that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself; but he that prophesies edifies the church.

 

 

 

2. Pray Early (Jesus got alone)

Other dates (~2002-2008); 9/24/16; 10/18/16

 

 

Psa_104:21 WEB  The young lions roar after their prey, and seek their food from God.

Psa_104:21 CAB  even the young lions roar after their prey, and they seek meat for themselves from God.

Psa_104:21  (103:21) σκύμνοι ὠρυόμενοι ἁρπάσαι καὶ ζητῆσαι παρὰ τοῦ θεοῦ βρῶσιν αὐτοῖς.

Psa_104:22 The sun rises, and they steal away, and lay down in their dens.

Psa_104:22 The sun arises, and they shall be gathered together, and shall lie down in their dens.

Psa_104:22  (103:22) ἀνέτειλεν ὁ ἥλιος, καὶ συνήχθησαν καὶ ἐν ταῖς μάνδραις αὐτῶν κοιτασθήσονται·

Psa_104:23 Man goes forth to his work, to his labor until the evening.

Psa_104:23 Man shall go forth to his work, and to his labor till evening.

Psa_104:23  (103:23) ἐξελεύσεται ἄνθρωπος ἐπὶ τὸ ἔργον αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἐργασίαν αὐτοῦ ἕως ἑσπέρας.

Psa_104:24 Yahweh, how many are your works! In wisdom have you made them all. The earth is full of your riches.

Psa_104:24 How great are Your works, O Lord! In wisdom have You done them all; the earth is filled with Your creation.

Psa_104:24  (103:24) ὡς ἐμεγαλύνθη τὰ ἔργα σου, κύριε· πάντα ἐν σοφίᾳ ἐποίησας, ἐπληρώθη ἡ γῆ τῆς κτήσεώς σου.

 

 

 

Jos_6:15 WEB  It happened on the seventh day, that they rose early at the dawning of the day, and marched around the city in the same way seven times. Only on this day they marched around the city seven times.

Jos_6:15 Cab  And on the seventh day they rose up early, and compassed the city on that day seven times.

Jos_6:15  καὶ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ ἀνέστησαν ὄρθρου καὶ περιήλθοσαν τὴν πόλιν ἑξάκις·

 

 

 

Mar_1:35  And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.

(Also see: Ps. 5:2-3, *55:17, 88:13, Mk 1:35)

Important to break threw, Show dependency by making it priority

            -Go out w/ no prayer = no Armor (Of God: Eph. 6:10-19)

 

1Pe_1:13  Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end…

1Pe_4:7  But the end of all things is at hand: therefore, you all be sober, and watch (abstain from wine) in prayer. (KJVB)

 

“continue in prayer being vigelent in it.”

 

Wise take down trusted stronghold

 

Structure can help

 

Ps. 34:8 Taste and see He is good,

-like time with wife, not to much “have to,” but discipline –yes

Look to reward, diligently seek, believe He’s good, (Father who sees what is done in secret)

Do more than ever required

It’s How you get to love people,… everything decided in prayer

Get emotional!

There are right and wrongs…

Wait on the lord, long alone prayer, (solitude) he can pull you to what’s right.

 

Prayer, “the good stuff”

Be anxious for nothing… thanks giving

-Hooked on goodness  -Not condemned -Enjoyable    -Getting stuff done

 

Also see:

Hab_2:7 they will shake you awake

Jdg_16:20 WEB-Based  She said, The Philistines are on you, Samson. He awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times, and shake myself free. But he didn't know that the Lord had departed from him.

(10 had “free”-But skewed by newer versions, 8 didn’t)

 

How To Hear God’s Voice

 

- cry out to God

Seek…find

scripture

diligence

wait till something happens

Moses’ prayer life and the Example of Joshua

 

1. How does God / the Holy Spirit speak today?

It is first important to establish that he does in fact speak today, and this promise is available to us to access by faith and diligently seeking God in prayer.

 

You might have already read the excerpt from my FAQs about spiritual gifts:

 

This addresses some of how the Holy Spirit is available to speak today, since we are still in the same age as those who were in the book of the Acts of the Apostles.

This also addresses some concerns I have faced with the corruption in the American church regarding these things.

 

Scriptures:

My sheep hear my voice…

Those who are led by the Spirit of God these are the sons of god

 


2. How does one distinguish between one's own imaginations, Satan's temptations and the Lord's voice?

 

Believe the Bible above your own opinion

Sacrifice your own concept of religion and morality and be adjusted by truth instead

 

Watching in Prayer

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Sweet Sleep

Pro_3:24; Ecc_5:12

 

When to Start The Day

Based on An Email originally sent to Angelle Mon 8/10/2009 8:58 PM; Revised many times including: 11/28/10;

I had already prepared it in my drafts, and then she actually asked about the need that I had already prepared the beginnings of a Bible Study for

 

Add:

- Jerimiah rising eary

- Marry at the tom: parable of rising early is rewarded by the resurrection..

- if she had not gotten up before day break she would have missed the resurrection!!!

- Aren’t there 12 hrs in the day (to work): but why is it that every time we turn around it is mid day?? – We need to start they day earlier

- The night comes when no one can work

- see that they got started so early, it puts a new spin on the proverbs that say, the sluggard turns on his bed like the hinges of a door – now it actually applys and is convicting

- it so profound that so so many of our deepest struggles can be healed if we would just simply observe divine boundaries given to us in the Bible – this works the same as modesty when people cannot figure out why they cannot stop lusting

- sam bounderies are with holding hands and or clothing

- highered people in his vinyard

- marry at the tomb

 

 

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5/21/16

 

Gen_44:3 KJV+  As soon as the morningH1242 was light,H215 the menH376 were sent away,H7971 theyH1992 and their asses.H2543

Gen_44:3 LB The morning dawned, and the men were sent away, they and their donkeys.

Gen_44:3  τὸ πρωὶ διέφαυσεν, καὶ οἱ ἄνθρωποι ἀπεστάλησαν, αὐτοὶ καὶ οἱ ὄνοι αὐτῶν.

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You can take these side thoughts for what they are worth:

 

By the way: If you are spending lots of time in prayer, it is best and most helpful, physically and spiritually, if you concentrate these large amounts of time after you have done everything that you need to do during the day. It is good to spend hours a day in the morning too, but this is accomplished by rising early, or extra early, to pray. And your long enduring prayers of waiting are best and most appropriate when they are after your daily work is done. (The exception being when you don’t have daily work because you have set the whole day or more aside to pray as in Mat_4:1-11):

 

(These are all from the Complete Apostles' Bible)

 

Rom_12:11 CAB  not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord;

 

“Diligence” – The Definition here is very helpful:

Stong’s:

G4710 σπουδή spoudē spoo-day'

From G4692; “speed”, that is, (by implication) despatch, eagerness, earnestness: - business, (earnest) care (-fulness), diligence forwardness, haste.

 

And the “Word Study” Definition says, “…to speed, urge, hasten, press. Speed, haste, earnestness, diligence, zeal.

 

We also know proverbs says:

 

Pro_31:15 CAB And she rises by night, and gives food to her household, and appointed tasks to her maidens.

 

And we should know that this means she was also up early, (or even earlier?), to pray:

 

Psa_119:147-148 CAB 147  I arose before the dawn, and cried; I hoped in Your words.  148  My eyes prevented the dawn, that I might meditate on Your oracles.

 

And

 

Mar_1:35-38 CAB 35  And in the very early morning before dawn, He arose and He went out, and went away to a deserted place; and there He was praying.  36  And Simon and those who were with Him sought Him out.  37  When they found Him, they said to Him, "Everyone is looking for You."  38  But He said to them, "Let us go to the neighboring towns, that I may preach there also, because for this reason I have come forth."

 

For long enduring night prayers we have:

 

Luk_6:12-13 CAB 12  Now it came to pass in those days that He went out to the mountain to pray, and He was spending the night in prayer to God.  13  And when it became day, He summoned His disciples, and having chosen twelve from them, whom He also named apostles:

 

- Personally, this blows me away how He could operate like this……

 

Col_4:2 CAB Continue earnestly in prayer, being vigilant* in it with thanksgiving;

 

This is where we get the term “Prayer Vigil” (an all night prayer meeting), and the Greek also means “To watch, to refrain from sleep” (Word Study).

 

(Also, Jacob wrestled with the Angel all night: Gen_32:24-26)

 

I hope this is helpful to pursuing prayer. If so, maybe you can let me know. If this was just a good general reminder, then that is good too.

 

Thanks for praying,

 

 

 

Profaning the Morning with Early Activity

5/4/13; 5/30/13

 

Pro_27:14 CAB  Whosoever shall bless a friend in the morning with a loud voice, shall seem to differ nothing from one who curses him.

 

Psa_57:8 CAB  Awake, my glory; awake, psaltery and harp; I will awake early.

 

Pro_24:27 CAB  Prepare your works for your going forth, and prepare yourself for the field; and come after me, and you shall rebuild your house.

 

Pro_31:15 CAB  And she rises by night, and gives food to her household, and appointed tasks to her maidens.

 

She does her own work first, and then when they get up, the are involved

 

Jesus was found praying by Himself in the morning... then Peter tried to involve other people in Jesus' morning time and He skipped to the next city.

 

Exceptions

 

prophets were sent, arrising early

Jer_44:4 CAB  Yet I sent to you My servants the prophets early in the morning; and I sent, saying, Do not do this abominable thing which I hate.

>> get TSK!!

 

Ant

but be like the ant, (which so quickly starts working)

 

 

 

Sleep

3/11/12

 

Sleep troubles

Jesus stored His righteousness in some other lobe (unlike most homans) He stored it outsite the material of His brain, so He must have been being very spiritual!

 

He gives rest to beloved

 

Resting at the wrong time is shameful

Pro - A son causes shame who ---- sleeps? Rests? In harvest....

> tsk this!

 

This is what that shame looks like

Turns upon bead

 

A season for everything

 

Sabath - you shall do no work...

 

Should be a day that you do not plan to do anything.

How can you accomplish this in this society? (wasn't Israel a wise Nation indeed?) - Sunday seems like the best day in our culture, but we do not do it corporatly to consider one day above another.

 

Is this similar to eat meet to your heatt's content?

 

Boundaries

You cannot be treacherous and do it more than one day a week.

In many cases, you must make careful observation that you are giving your self to be a hard worker before you let yourself rest. We do not want to ever fortify lust.

 

Strategies to Overcome Obsticles

I have to excesize my eyes and stretch after hybernating.

 

Diligently seek to make things work with family (hidden within framework of family? Demanded from son-as much as possible-)

 

 

When all is said and done, you may just not have a rest day available to you (if in prison, i.e., with fam) which is why Israel was a wise nation. - pray that God would give you understanding to find nooks in schedules to meet this need, aviod late night like the plauge, and pray for supernatural stamina.

 

 

Always believe before sleeping, and don't neglect this by saying "its my rest day soon." if you believe at night you can wake to faith even in your rest day.

 

 

Sleep deprivation (and of course faith without fear) is probably why Jesus was able to sleep so well, and He was able to wakeup in faith and do miracles even right after His recovery rest.

 

Samuel and Jesus seem to say, "why are you disturbing me from my recovery rest?"

 

 

Seek to sync when in community to renforce labor-fidelity (but if not, do not have an evil eye for the one who really does need to rest)

 

 

Sleep

4/7/12

There is a season for it

- good if you are sick

- gives rest to His beloved

 

don't  love it

Don't turn over like a door on hinges (should not be life-posture)

King reverently lacked it when urgency was a pressing need

Jesus prayed all night

Apostles went without food and had sleepless nights

Sometimes late-night bbs is reasonable for eagerness sake

 

 

The Prayer of The Pervert

 

wow... I had a personally generated spiritual experience...

no one else is having this... mine must be something special that makes me "the one" unlike anyone else

people need to know how special my prayers are

 

I thank you that I am not like others

 

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Old Versions of Prayer Lists

 

3. Prayer- Daily Essentials:

An unofficial list of Daily prayer items that may vary well be essential in helping make you a man or woman of God.

 

Worship Ex. Singing, telling God how good He is, adoration, thanking God! See: Heb_13:15, Ps 33, 92, 149:3

Bible Reading -Also giving attention to meditation. Dut_17:18-20, Josh_1:8, Ps. 105:2 & 97, 119:10-11, Jn 8:31, Tim_2:15

Filled with the Holy Spirit

Eph_5:18 ALT: “And stop getting drunk with wine, in which is reckless behavior, _but_ continue being filled with [the] Spirit.” Also See: Lk 11:9-13, Act_9:17, Gal_5:25, Rom_8:26-27.

“Continue”: Act_2:4, 4:8, & 31, 13:9, 13:52.

Fire! AKA: “Zeal. It leads to Þ Faith, ‘fervent effective prayer’ (Jas_5:16)

Ex. “Awake…Shake…” Isa_52:1-2, Samson Jdg_16:20.

In Other Words: “Jump!”/Whatever it takes to get fervent!

Zeal Verses: Zeal for House Psa_69:9/Jn 2:17, Not Lacking in it Rom_12:11, Always Zealous/Right Zeal Gal_4:18, Stir it up Isa_64:7,

“Phinehas” Num_25:5-13, 1King_19:10, Pro_23:17, Tit_2:14

Confession/Repentance 1Jn_1:8-9, Jas_5:16, Ps 32:5, *51

Crucify Flesh Crucify Daily Lk 9:23, Die daily 1Cor_15:31, To Selfishness etc. *Gal_5:24.

Warfare Most people don’t realize how much they need it. Think: “attitude,” “depression,” “bad day”… *Lk 10:18-20,

*Jas_4:7, Mt 16:19, 18:18-19

Against Lust  For every guy, and for almost every girl, it must be done daily! Þ Break specific “soul ties”! (Ex. Gen_34:2-3,

Pro_6:25, also Vs. 24-35)  Þ Say their name out loud.

See: Ps 66:18, & 139:23 -Hidden things in your heart

Also See: “No Dating list,” especially: *2Tim_2:22, & *1Tim5:1-2

Humility ‘Walk humbly’ Mic_6:8, *Jas_4:10, *1Pet_5:5-7

Intercession Be thankful/bless people, especially Leaders, (me) Tit_2:1-4. 1Tim_2:1, 2Tim_1:3, Phm :4

 

 

 

All Kinds of Prayers

(Dealing with questions/debates that people sometimes have):

And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints, (Eph_6:18 NIV).

For Eph_6:18 (see: ArmorofGod)

 

Where is bowing in Bible? (some say its not there…)

Bent Knees:       

1King_8:54, Dan_6:11, Eph_3:14, Lk. 18:10-14,

Bowed Head:

Ex. 4:31, 1Ch. 29:20 & 30, Neh. 8:6 (+ Lifted Hands)

“Only bowing is real prayer”

Stand: 1Sam_1:26, Mk. 11:25, (Hypocrites Mt. 6:5)

Lifted Eyes: Jn.17:1

Sitting: Act_1:14Þ2:1-4 (Sitting) Þ2:15

“Can’t pray in Public”

(Based on Mtt. 6:5-7) –Read it

Biblical Public Prayer:

1Kin_8:22-54, Act_1:14Þ2:1-4 (Sitting) Þ2:15, 3:1, 4:24-31

Private:

Mt.6:5-7, Act_10:30, Heb_5:7

“Loud Vs. Quiet”

Loud Cries:

Heb_5:7 (*Showed that He feared*)

Loud Music:

Ps.33:3 -Think: Shofar, Warfare… Desperation

Quiet:

Ps. 46:10 (“Be still and know…”)

 

Think:

● Quiet = sometime only way to hear his still small voice, tends toward humility

● Loud = Faith, eagerness, desperation, break-threw

● Sign of maturity to pray all kinds of prayers + you stay interested and awake

 

 

Remember:

● The point is to be intimate with JESUS

See goodness, pearl, you’ll want to pray. Only way to live, only way to pray.

● Remember “The armor”

 

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I took this out of the prayer lists:

 

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Tell God how good He is

Most people don’t realize how much they need it.

Bless people, especially leaders. Tit_2:1-4.

Bible Reading

Psa_105:2

& Psa_97:1

Zeal …leads to → Faith &

(to selfishness etc.)

Dealing with questions and debates that people sometimes have

Psa_46:10 (Be still and know...);

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Pray Additions

 

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Prayer Meeting

8/10/09

 

 

Pray Laying Down in Cave

Search hearts on bead

 

 

Rendering a Reasonable Service of Worship

 

 

praise is comely-- 

play skillfully

humility reverence: bring words with you

appoint singers

not for flesh, but is joyful—play one of the songs of sion—find:  vain songs

this means we do not sing to be inter tained... we must not sing so we can have sung kids church songs. we are not here to be random and foolish, but intentional and strategic with how and why we do things

we can only corporately give the sensitivity of our hearts when we are all committed to per su ing the same thing with reverent and holy copiedsctions for one another 

if we are light hearted and unbelieving we oppose corporate sensitivity, reverence, and faith, not discerning the lords body

not about expressing ourselves but about entering into the per scription of life and relating properly and acceptably to the precious and holy god

if you do not have the  faith to treate this as a holy moment, it is because you do not yet fear and believe god. it is not a healthy thing to lightly approach god, assuming that god is happy for you to go about in front of him as you are and as it seems best in your own eyes

any songs to god should be surrounded as prayer—why should we hate jesus so much and act like lost people not having faith that god hears at the sacred assembly? if we sing songs directed to god and do not naturally continue in prayer, what kind of lie does this tell us that we are willing to live ?

we are often unwilling to consider God holy without music present to pamper our rev er ence . we are not here to sing songs!

 

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Leviticus 8 – Don’t Leave the Door of The Tabernacle, Lest You Die

3/23/17

Lev_8:33 WEB  You shall not go out from the door of the Tent of Meeting seven days, until the days of your consecration are fulfilled: for he shall consecrate you seven days.

Lev_8:33 LB And you shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of witness for seven days, until the day be fulfilled, the day of your consecration; for in seven days shall he consecrate you,

Lev_8:33  καὶ ἀπὸ τῆς θύρας τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου οὐκ ἐξελεύσεσθε ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας, ἕως ἡμέρα πληρωθῇ, ἡμέρα τελειώσεως ὑμῶν· ἑπτὰ γὰρ ἡμέρας τελειώσει τὰς χεῖρας ὑμῶν.

Lev_8:34 WEB  What has been done this day, so Yahweh has commanded to do, to make atonement for you.

Lev_8:34 as he did in this day on which the Lord commanded me to do so, to make an atonement for you.

Lev_8:34  καθάπερ ἐποίησεν ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ταύτῃ, ἐνετείλατο κύριος τοῦ ποιῆσαι ὥστε ἐξιλάσασθαι περὶ ὑμῶν.

Lev_8:35 WEB  You shall stay at the door of the Tent of Meeting day and night seven days, and keep Yahweh's command, that you don't die: for so I am commanded."

Lev_8:35 And you shall remain seven days at the door of the tabernacle of witness, day and night; you shall observe the ordinances of the Lord, so that you do not die; for so has the Lord God commanded me.”

Lev_8:35  καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν θύραν τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου καθήσεσθε ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας ἡμέραν καὶ νύκτα· φυλάξεσθε τὰ φυλάγματα κυρίου, ἵνα μὴ ἀποθάνητε· οὕτως γὰρ ἐνετείλατό μοι κύριος ὁ θεός.

Lev_8:36 WEB  Aaron and his sons did all the things which Yahweh commanded by Moses.

Lev_8:36 And Aaron and his sons performed all these commands which the Lord commanded Moses.

Lev_8:36  καὶ ἐποίησεν Ααρων καὶ οἱ υἱοὶ αὐτοῦ πάντας τοὺς λόγους, οὓς συνέταξεν κύριος τῷ Μωυσῇ.

>> Sync: Pr! | SCF | ROW > Hearing Comprehension

 

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Agonizing In Prayer

Other dates; 3/9/17

>> Sync: SPI > Prayer | bmd

 

Luk_22:43-44 Greek  ὤφθη δὲ αὐτῷ ἄγγελος ἀπ᾿ οὐρανοῦ ἐνισχύων αὐτόν.  44  καὶ γενόμενος ἐν ἀγωνίᾳ ἐκτενέστερον προσηύχετο. ἐγένετο δὲ ὁ ἱδρὼς αὐτοῦ ὡσεὶ θρόμβοι αἵματος καταβαίνοντες ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν.

>> get CAB

 

Col_4:12 Greek  ἀσπάζεται ὑμᾶς ᾿Επαφρᾶς ὁ ἐξ ὑμῶν, δοῦλος Χριστοῦ, πάντοτε ἀγωνιζόμενος ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν ἐν ταῖς προσευχαῖς, ἵνα σταθῆτε τέλειοι καὶ πεπληρωμένοι ἐν παντὶ θελήματι τοῦ Θεοῦ·

 

Church says nobody is perfect

Is Epaphras praying for a vain fairy tale?

Or is it rather that the church has a vain fairy tale, and Epaphras is a real disciple of the Anointed One?

 

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Spiritual Hangover

2/8/17

 

It comes as confusion in the morning.

You are not sure why you feel off, especially because these feelings come before you have done anything “right or wrong” for that day.

But it actually comes as a spiritual hangover from what happened the night before, and how you fell asleep.

 

Solution: repent of not being fervent the night before and watching in prayer.

Why repent for not staying up late, when you could repent instead for not being fervent? -- An excerpt, side-thought from the phantom Guilt Bible study

 

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1/19/17

 

Exo_34:2 WEB  Be ready by the morning, and come up in the morning to Mount Sinai, and present yourself there to me on the top of the mountain.

Exo_34:2 LB And be ready by the morning, and you shall go up to Mount Sinai, and you shall stand there before Me on the top of the mountain.

Exo_34:2  καὶ γίνου ἕτοιμος εἰς τὸ πρωὶ καὶ ἀναβήσῃ ἐπὶ τὸ ὄρος τὸ Σινα καὶ στήσῃ μοι ἐκεῖ ἐπ᾿ ἄκρου τοῦ ὄρους.

 

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1/15/17

 

Exo_30:7 WEB  Aaron shall burn incense of sweet spices on it every morning. When he tends the lamps, he shall burn it.

Exo_30:7 LB And Aaron shall burn upon it fine compound incense every morning; whenever he trims the lamps he shall burn incense upon it.

Exo_30:7  καὶ θυμιάσει ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ Ααρων θυμίαμα σύνθετον λεπτόν· τὸ πρωὶ πρωί, ὅταν ἐπισκευάζῃ τοὺς λύχνους, θυμιάσει ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ,

Exo_30:8 WEB  When Aaron lights the lamps at evening, he shall burn it, a perpetual incense before Yahweh throughout your generations.

Exo_30:8 And when Aaron lights the lamps in the evening, he shall burn incense upon it; a constant incense offering always before the Lord for their generations.

Exo_30:8  καὶ ὅταν ἐξάπτῃ Ααρων τοὺς λύχνους ὀψέ, θυμιάσει ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ· θυμίαμα ἐνδελεχισμοῦ διὰ παντὸς ἔναντι κυρίου εἰς γενεὰς αὐτῶν.

Exo_30:9 WEB  You shall offer no strange incense on it, nor burnt offering, nor meal offering; and you shall pour no drink offering on it.

Exo_30:9 And you shall not offer strange incense upon it, nor and offering made by fire, nor a sacrifice; and you shall not pour a drink offering upon it.

Exo_30:9  καὶ οὐκ ἀνοίσεις ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ θυμίαμα ἕτερον, κάρπωμα, θυσίαν· καὶ σπονδὴν οὐ σπείσεις ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ.

 

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12/31/16

 

Exo_24:15 WEB  Moses went up on the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain.

Exo_24:15 CAB  And Moses and Joshua went up to the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain.

Exo_24:15  καὶ ἀνέβη Μωυσῆς καὶ Ἰησοῦς εἰς τὸ ὄρος, καὶ ἐκάλυψεν ἡ νεφέλη τὸ ὄρος.

Exo_24:16 The glory of Yahweh settled on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days. The seventh day he called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

Exo_24:16 And the glory of God came down upon Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days; and the Lord called Moses on the seventh day out of the midst of the cloud.

Exo_24:16  καὶ κατέβη ἡ δόξα τοῦ θεοῦ ἐπὶ τὸ ὄρος τὸ Σινα, καὶ ἐκάλυψεν αὐτὸ ἡ νεφέλη ἓξ ἡμέρας· καὶ ἐκάλεσεν κύριος τὸν Μωυσῆν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ ἐκ μέσου τῆς νεφέλης.

Exo_24:17 The appearance of the glory of Yahweh was like devouring fire on the top of the mountain in the eyes of the children of Israel.

Exo_24:17 And the appearance of the glory of the Lord was as burning fire on the top of the mountain, before the children of Israel.

Exo_24:17  τὸ δὲ εἶδος τῆς δόξης κυρίου ὡσεὶ πῦρ φλέγον ἐπὶ τῆς κορυφῆς τοῦ ὄρους ἐναντίον τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ.

Exo_24:18 Moses entered into the midst of the cloud, and went up on the mountain; and Moses was on the mountain forty days and forty nights.

Exo_24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and went up to the mountain, and was there in the mountain forty days and forty nights.

Exo_24:18  καὶ εἰσῆλθεν Μωυσῆς εἰς τὸ μέσον τῆς νεφέλης καὶ ἀνέβη εἰς τὸ ὄρος καὶ ἦν ἐκεῖ ἐν τῷ ὄρει τεσσαράκοντα ἡμέρας καὶ τεσσαράκοντα νύκτας.

 

 

Pray Early!

>> combine with previous

 

Exo_24:4 WEB  Moses wrote all the words of Yahweh, and rose up early in the morning, and built an altar under the mountain, and twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel.

Exo_24:4 CAB  And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and built an altar under the mountain, and set up twelve stones for the twelve tribes of Israel.

Exo_24:4  καὶ ἔγραψεν Μωυσῆς πάντα τὰ ῥήματα κυρίου. ὀρθρίσας δὲ Μωυσῆς τὸ πρωὶ ᾠκοδόμησεν θυσιαστήριον ὑπὸ τὸ ὄρος καὶ δώδεκα λίθους εἰς τὰς δώδεκα φυλὰς τοῦ Ισραηλ·

Exo_24:5 He sent young men of the children of Israel, who offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of cattle to Yahweh.

Exo_24:5 And he sent forth the young men of the children of Israel, and they offered whole burnt offerings, and they sacrificed young calves as a peace offering to God.

Exo_24:5  καὶ ἐξαπέστειλεν τοὺς νεανίσκους τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ, καὶ ἀνήνεγκαν ὁλοκαυτώματα καὶ ἔθυσαν θυσίαν σωτηρίου τῷ θεῷ μοσχάρια.

 

 

Pour Out Your Heart

10/14/16

 

Psa_62:8 WEB  Trust in him at all times, you people. Pour out your heart before him. God is a refuge for us. Selah.

Psa_62:8 CAB  Hope in Him, all you congregation of the people; pour out your hearts before Him, for God is our helper. Pause.

Psa_62:8  (61:9) ἐλπίσατε ἐπ᾿ αὐτόν, πᾶσα συναγωγὴ λαοῦ· ἐκχέετε ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ τὰς καρδίας ὑμῶν· ὁ θεὸς βοηθὸς ἡμῶν. διάψαλμα.

>> where is the other ref I had for this? -- in confessions / SPW????

>>> TSK

 

>>Scrip:

Hanna

 

The Point of Prayer, is to Get Somewhere

10/3/16

 

>>Scrip:

The perfection of the commandment is love out of a clean heart…

Things producing faith as opposed to questions

>>TSK

 

 

 

Lifted Hands

10/2/16

 

 

Neh_8:6 WEB  and Ezra blessed Yahweh, the great God. All the people answered, Amen, Amen, with the lifting up of their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshiped Yahweh with their faces to the ground.

Neh_8:6 CAB  And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God; and all the people answered, and said, Amen, lifting up their hands. And they bowed down and worshipped the Lord with their face to the ground.

Neh_8:6  καὶ ηὐλόγησεν Εσδρας κύριον τὸν θεὸν τὸν μέγαν, καὶ ἀπεκρίθη πᾶς ὁ λαὸς καὶ εἶπαν Αμην ἐπάραντες χεῖρας αὐτῶν καὶ ἔκυψαν καὶ προσεκύνησαν τῷ κυρίῳ ἐπὶ πρόσωπον ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν.

 

 

Job_11:13 CAB  For if you have made your heart pure, and lifted up your hands towards Him;

Psa_24:4 CAB  He that is innocent in his hands and pure in his heart; who has not lifted up his soul to vanity, nor sworn deceitfully to his neighbor.

 

 

 

 

Listening

8/8/16

 

>> be still and know

>> if you are careful to obey voice

>> HEAR oh Israel

 

You will hear a voice behind you saying this is the way to walk in

> TSK

>> joshua -- horses on tops of trees

 

Ecc_5:1 WEB  Guard your steps when you go to God's house; for to draw near to listen is better than to give the sacrifice of fools, for they don't know that they do evil.

Ecc_5:1 LB Fear God. Keep Your Vows Keep your foot, whenever you go to the house of God; and when you are near to hear, let your sacrifice be better than the gift of fools; for they do not know they are doing evil.

Ecc_5:1  (4:17) Φύλαξον πόδα σου, ἐν ᾧ ἐὰν πορεύῃ εἰς οἶκον τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ ἐγγὺς τοῦ ἀκούειν· ὑπὲρ δόμα τῶν ἀφρόνων θυσία σου, ὅτι οὔκ εἰσιν εἰδότες τοῦ ποιῆσαι κακόν.

Ecc_5:2 WEB  Don't be rash with your mouth, and don't let your heart be hasty to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven, and you on earth. Therefore let your words be few.

Ecc_5:2 Do not be hasty with your mouth, and do not let your heart be swift to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven above, and you are on earth; therefore let your words be few.

Ecc_5:2  (5:1) μὴ σπεῦδε ἐπὶ στόματί σου, καὶ καρδία σου μὴ ταχυνάτω τοῦ ἐξενέγκαι λόγον πρὸ προσώπου τοῦ θεοῦ· ὅτι ὁ θεὸς ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, καὶ σὺ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, ἐπὶ τούτῳ ἔστωσαν οἱ λόγοι σου ὀλίγοι.

>> Sync: Pr! & ROW

 

Should Disciples Pray Toward The East

7/23/16; 7/24/16; 10/27/16

 

Intro

7/23/16; 7/24/16

 

Jesus lifted up his eyes into heaven to pray (See/compare: Prayer Lists)

Jesus said we should pray to our Father in the heavens.

Jesus also said real/spiritual worshipers would no longer pray in Jerusalem.

 

Is there any value left for praying toward the East?

 

 

Isa_24:15 WEB  Therefore glorify Yahweh in the east, even the name of Yahweh, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea!

Isa_24:15 CAB  Therefore shall the glory of the Lord be in the isles of the sea; the name of the Lord shall be glorious.

Isa_24:15  διὰ τοῦτο ἡ δόξα κυρίου ἐν ταῖς νήσοις ἔσται τῆς θαλάσσης, τὸ ὄνομα κυρίου ἔνδοξον ἔσται Κύριε ὁ θεὸς Ισραηλ.

 

 

Sun-Worship is Bad

7/23/16

 

Job_31:26 WEB if I have seen the sun when it shined, or the moon moving in splendor,

Job_31:26 CAB (do we not see the shining sun eclipsed, and the moon waning? For they have not power to continue:)

Job_31:26  ἦ οὐχ ὁρῶ μὲν ἥλιον τὸν ἐπιφαύσκοντα ἐκλείποντα, σελήνην δὲ φθίνουσαν; οὐ γὰρ ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῖς ἐστιν.

Job_31:27 and my heart has been secretly enticed, and my hand threw a kiss from my mouth,

Job_31:27 and if my heart was secretly deceived, and if I have laid my hand upon my mouth and kissed it:

Job_31:27  καὶ εἰ ἠπατήθη λάθρᾳ ἡ καρδία μου, εἰ δὲ καὶ χεῖρά μου ἐπιθεὶς ἐπὶ στόματί μου ἐφίλησα,

Job_31:28 this also would be an iniquity to be punished by the judges; for I should have denied the God who is above.

Job_31:28 let this also then be reckoned to me as the greatest iniquity: for I should have lied against the Lord Most High.

Job_31:28  καὶ τοῦτό μοι ἄρα ἀνομία ἡ μεγίστη λογισθείη, ὅτι ἐψευσάμην ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ ὑψίστου.

 

 

Deu_17:2 If there be found in the midst of you, within any of your gates which Yahweh your God gives you, man or woman, who does that which is evil in the sight of Yahweh your God, in transgressing his covenant,

 

 

Deu_17:2 And if there should be found in any of your cities which the Lord your God gives you, a man or a woman who shall do that which is evil before the Lord your God, so as to transgress His covenant,

 

 

Deu_17:2  Ἐὰν δὲ εὑρεθῇ ἐν σοὶ ἐν μιᾷ τῶν πόλεών σου, ὧν κύριος ὁ θεός σου δίδωσίν σοι, ἀνὴρ ἢ γυνή, ὅστις ποιήσει τὸ πονηρὸν ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου παρελθεῖν τὴν διαθήκην αὐτοῦ,

 

 

Deu_17:3 WEB and has gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, or the sun, or the moon, or any of the army of the sky, which I have not commanded;

Deu_17:3 CAB and they should go and serve other gods, and worship them, the sun, or the moon, or any of the host of heaven, which He commanded you not to do,

Deu_17:3  καὶ ἐλθόντες λατρεύσωσιν θεοῖς ἑτέροις καὶ προσκυνήσωσιν αὐτοῖς, τῷ ἡλίῳ ἢ τῇ σελήνῃ ἢ παντὶ τῶν ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τοῦ οὐρανοῦ, ἃ οὐ προσέταξεν,

Deu_17:4 and it be told you, and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire diligently; and behold, if it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is done in Israel,

Deu_17:4 and it be told you, and you shall have inquired diligently, and behold, the thing really took place, this abomination has been done in Israel;

Deu_17:4  καὶ ἀναγγελῇ σοι, καὶ ἐκζητήσεις σφόδρα, καὶ ἰδοὺ ἀληθῶς γέγονεν τὸ ῥῆμα, γεγένηται τὸ βδέλυγμα τοῦτο ἐν Ισραηλ,

Deu_17:5 then you shall bring forth that man or that woman, who has done this evil thing, to your gates, even the man or the woman; and you shall stone them to death with stones.

Deu_17:5 then shall you bring out that man, or that woman, and you shall stone them with stones, and they shall die.

Deu_17:5  καὶ ἐξάξεις τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἐκεῖνον ἢ τὴν γυναῖκα ἐκείνην καὶ λιθοβολήσετε αὐτοὺς ἐν λίθοις, καὶ τελευτήσουσιν.

>>Scrip -- Read!:

Eze_8:9-18 (esp. Eze_8:15-17)

 

Ezekiel_43:1-2 “Then he lead me to the gate which faces the east, and there I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east”

“And the glory of the Lord came into the house, by the way of the gate looking eastward:” (Eze_43:4 Brenton)

 

Ezekiel_44:1-2 “Then He brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary facing the east; but it was closed; it is not to be opened for any one to enter by it since the LORD, the God of Israel has entered by it, it shall remain closed”

 

“And if the prince should prepare as a thanksgiving a whole-burnt-peace-offering to the Lord, and should open for himself the gate looking eastward, and offer his whole-burnt-offering, and his peace-offerings, as he does on the sabbath-day; then shall he go out, and shall shut the doors after he has gone out.” (Eze_46:12 Brenton )

 

 

Isaiah_46:11  “I call from the east a bird of prey from the distant land, one to carry out my plan”

>>Scrip:

And the Glory of the LORD rose from the city and took a stand on the mountain which is to the east of the city

 

Gen3: 34 “When he expelled the man, he settled him east of the garden of Eden”  “Then the LORD God planted a garden in Eden in the east.” (Gen_2:8).

 

 

 

Clarke: “This was the Persian worship, as their turning their faces to the east plainly shows they were worshipping the rising sun.”

 

Pulpit: “I SUN WORSHIP IS MOST FASCINATING. This was the most common, and perhaps also the most primitive, heathen cult. It was very prominent in the ancient Egyptian religion the rising, the midday, and the setting sun being honoured with separate names and rites; it was the essential idea of the Canaanite Baal worship, as well as of the Babylonian religion; and it lies at the heart of the Aryan mythology in Sanscrit, Greek, and Teutonic forms. If any material object should be selected for worship, it is natural that the earth"s great source of light, power, and life should be the universal favourite. Our modern idolatries do not reach this material form, but they contain the same ideas.

1. The worship of light. This takes two forms.

(1) AEstheticism. Grace of form and tone are set up as supreme objects of admiration, to the neglect of moral goodness.

(2) Science. This is put on a pinnacle as lord of all thought and life.”

(See: Pulpit for more)

 

Worshiping “the creature, rather than the Creator”, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

Further reading (not read yet):

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/photos/2009/04/021361.html

 

There is obviously “The worship of the sun, or heliolatry (Greek ‘helios’: Sun and ‘latry’: worship or excessive devotion), is known to have been prevalent since the beginning of recorded history of man”.

http://yahshua-ha-mashiach.weebly.com/facing-east-to-pray-is-an-abomination.html

7/23/16

 

Eastern pray-er include: ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Catholics, muslims, jews, etc.

“Sun worship was very important among many cultures; particularly the Egyptian, Indo-European (Greek, Roman, Babylonian, Persian, Sumerian, Vedic Aryan etc), and Meso-American (Aztec, Mixtec, Maya etc) civilizations.

The influence of the sun was also important or formed an integral part of religious beliefs of, among others, the Druids of England, the Incas of Peru and many Native North American tribes. Among Eastern religions, Japanese mythology refers to ‘Amaterasu’ the Sun Goddess, while there are distinct influences of sun worship in certain forms of Buddhism. Sun worship has been a very important element of ancient and modern Hinduism.”

 

Avoiding Sun Worship

7/24/16

 

There’s Relatively No Temptation For Us to Worship the Sun

Obviously, none of us are significantly tempted by Sun worship. (We probably got to ask what other “pretty”/admirable things our temptations have been transferred to by our culture)

 

Don’t Pray Facing the Sun -- Keep Facing East After the Sun Has Past to the West

If praying toward the east, I have always avoided facing the sun (or moon) itself.

In fact, after the sun has moved on toward setting in the West, we might could still pray in the same direction, because the Sun is only the parable marking the path of Anointed one’s return. After it passes by, we are still anticipating for the point of the parable to “come in like manner”.

 

 

 

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And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies." (Num_2:3

 

>>Scrip:

Sing unto God, ye kingdoms of the earth: 0 sing praises unto the Lord: to Him that rideth upon the Heavens of heavens towards the East

 

 

>> Solomon

 

God answers:

2Ch_7:16 KJV+  For nowH6258 have I chosenH977 and sanctifiedH6942 (H853) thisH2088 house,H1004 that my nameH8034 may beH1961 thereH8033 for ever:H5704 H5769 and mine eyesH5869 and mine heartH3820 shall beH1961 thereH8033 perpetually.H3605 H3117

2Ch_7:16 And now I have chosen and sanctified this house, that My name should be there forever; and My eyes and My heart shall be there always.

2Ch_7:16  καὶ νῦν ἐξελεξάμην καὶ ἡγίακα τὸν οἶκον τοῦτον τοῦ εἶναι ὄνομά μου ἐκεῖ ἕως αἰῶνος, καὶ ἔσονται οἱ ὀφθαλμοί μου καὶ ἡ καρδία μου ἐκεῖ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας.

 

 

2 Chronicles_6:26 "26 When the heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; yet if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou dost afflict them"

 

Daniel_6:10 " Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime."

 

 

Joh_4:21

Sun revolutions are prophetic

Mal_4:2

Isa_60:19

Eph_5:14; Isa_60:1; [Isa_51:17; Isa_52:1]

 

1Th_5:1-10, esp. 1Th_5:5 (sons of the Day), 1Th_5:8 (we are of the day)

Luk_22:53

 

He was crucified on the Cross, had His face turned toward the west

 

 

Jesus stood up Very Early Sunday morning

 

 

Sleep is a continual parable of death, and waking up is continual parable of resurrection, because Aanointed One comes from the east!

>> as lightening

>> he will come back the same way he departed

>> eastern gate

 

 

“As the lightning cometh out of the East and shineth even unto the West, so also shall the coming of the Son of Man be” (Matt_24:27)

 

 

“For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man” (Matthew_24:27)

 

“…Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner[2] as ye have seen him go into heaven.” (Acts_1:11)

 

“the tent of Moses7 had its veil and mercy seat8 towards the East.

Also the tribe of Judah as the most precious pitched their camp on the East.9

Also in the celebrated temple of Solomon, the Gate of the Lord was placed eastward.

Moreover Christ, when He hung on the Cross, had His face turned towards the West, and so we worship, striving after Him.”

2 I John_1:5.

3 Mal. 4:2.

4 Zach. 3:8, 6:12, Luke_1:78

5 Ps. 68:32, 33.

6 Gen. 2:8.

7 Levit. 16:14.

8 Ibid. 2.

9 Num. 2:3.

10 Acts. 1:11.

11 Matt. 24:27

http://www.orthodox.net/journal/2009-05-16.html

7/23/16

 

““…Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner[2] as ye have seen him go into heaven.” (Acts_1:11)

 

We believe that our Lord ascended on the Mount of Olives, and when He comes back, He will come on a cloud[3] from the East.”

http://www.orthodoxprayer.org/Facing%20East.html

7/23/16

 

““Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, (2) Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.” (Mat_2:1-2)

 

Ezekiel saw the “glory of the Lord” when facing East:

 

“And the glory of the Lord came into the house, by the way of the gate looking eastward:” (Eze_43:4 Brenton)”

 

 

 

Rev_11: – the "east"/Jerusalem/temple area still matters, even while waiting for it to be redeemed

 

 

Tag-Team Prayers

2/17/16

 

>>Scrip:

Ezekiel wheels spirit flowing between them

 

 

Blocked Prayers – What to Do When You Can’t Get Through

12/8/15

Comp.:

What to do when you can repent: Phantom Guilt vs. Agreeing with God [Pop: Rep]

Blocked Prayers – What to Do When You Can’t Get Through [Pop: pr!]

What to do when God testifies against you [Pop: ??]

>> Note: I should probably link these at some point

 

Principle: Your prayers can be blocked by injustice, especially when it is to those under your authority / strength / to those who are vulnerable before you.

 

>>Scrip:

If I hide lawlessness in my heart you would not hear me

John we know God does not hear sinners

Be mindful of your wife lest your prayers be cut off

 

Ultimately, this obviously includes obeying everything God already told you to do…

 

Ultimately perversion will get you something worse than “unanswered prayers” – it will get you demonic interceptions, and they will even give you joys that are “agreeable to your mind”

>> See: Shechem, etc.

>> I will choose your delusions

 

If you have done all these things and it is still not helped, then it might just be a case of needing to press on through until God crowns you with the victory of endurance and winning in faith.

 

Examples of Endurance Prayers

 

Is Pacing Biblical?

3/8/15; 12/8/15

Spreading incense throughout the Temple

Truth is Better than Catholics

Elijah pacing

 

 

 

Spirit, Soul, Body

7/17/12; 8/5/12; 9/10/12; 10/3/12; 1/25/13; 1/27/13 (Cannibalism and Blood Transfusions); 3/7/13; 3/19/13; 3/28/13; 4/29/13; 6/29/13; 9/29/13; 7/20/15 (OJMS); 6/9/16; 8/18/16; 8/29/16; 10/26/16; 11/4/16; 12/8/16; 12/24/16; 2/6/17 (recompiled); 4/11/17; 7/10/17

tags: body, soul / body soul

 

>> get all references to touching a dead body / soul

 

 

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Many Dictionaries Blunder The Soul!

3/18/18

 

ευψυχωG2174

 

Strong’s is part of the big blunder:

 

Strong’s: “G2174 εὐψυχέω eupsucheō yoo-psoo-kheh'-o

From a compound of G2095 and G5590; to be in good spirits, that is, feel encouraged: - be of good comfort.

(Marked out correction added)

 

Word Study: “G2174 εὐψυχέω

eupsuchéō; contracted eupsuchṓ, fut. eupsuchḗsō, from eúpsuchos (n.f.), of good courage, which is from (G2095), well, and psuchḗ (G5590), soul, mind. To be animated, be in good spirits (Php_2:19).

(Marked out correction added)

 

Although other dictionaries are better than Strong’s and WS, they still don’t ever actually speak of what the actual word is saying…:

 

AMGL+: “G2174 *† εὐψυχέω, -

(< εὔψυχος, courageous),

to be of good courage: Php_2:19.

 

L&J: “G2174 εὐψυχέω εὐψῡχ-έω, to be of good courage, Ep.Php_2:19, J. AJ 11.6.9, BGU 1097.15 (i A.D.), Poll. 3.135 . II εὐψύχει farewell ! a common inscr. on tombs, IG 12(2).393 ( Mytilene ), etc.

2. εὐψυχεῖν, = χαίρειν, in a letter of condolence, POxy. 115.1 (ii A.D.) .

 

VGNT: “G2174 εὐψυχέω εὐψυχέω [page 268]

     The force of this rare verb, as in Php_2:19, comes out well in a letter from a wife to her husband, BGU IV. 1097.15 (time of Claudius or Nero) ]γὼ γὰρ οὐco ovligwrw/( avlla. euvyucο̣ῦσα πα[ρα]μένω. It is found, instead of the usual χαίρειν, in the salutation of a letter of condolence, P Oxy I. 115.1 (ii/A.D.) (= Selections, p. 96) Εἰρήνη Ταοννώφρει καὶ Φίλωνι εὐψυχεῖν. See also Hermas Vis. i. iii 2 σὺ μόνον μὴ ῥᾳθυμήσῃς, ἀλλὰ εὐψύχει καὶ ἰσχυροποίει σου τὸν οἶκον. Εὐψύχει is very common in sepulchral inscrr., as Preisigke 46 Νίγερ μαχαιροφόρος, εὐψύχι, (ἐτῶν) ξ̄. For the subst. see Syll 686.30 (ii/A.D.) ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον δὲ καὶ ἀρετῆς καὶ εὐψυχίας ἦλθεν. 

 

 

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11/6/17

 

Deu_19:11 WEB  But if any man hates his neighbor, and lies in wait for him, and rises up against him, and strikes him mortally so that he dies, and he flees into one of these cities;

Deu_19:11 LB  “But if there should be in you a man hating his neighbor, and he should lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and strike him, that he should die, and he should flee to one of these cities,

Deu_19:11  ἐὰν δὲ γένηται ἄνθρωπος μισῶν τὸν πλησίον καὶ ἐνεδρεύσῃ αὐτὸν καὶ ἐπαναστῇ ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν καὶ πατάξῃ αὐτοῦ ψυχήν, καὶ ἀπεθάνῃ, καὶ φύγῃ εἰς μίαν τῶν πόλεων τούτων,

 

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2Co_7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

2Co_7:1  ταύτας οὖν ἔχοντες τὰς ἐπαγγελίας, ἀγαπητοί, καθαρίσωμεν ἑαυτοὺς ἀπὸ παντὸς μολυσμοῦ σαρκὸς καὶ πνεύματος, ἐπιτελοῦντες ἁγιωσύνην ἐν φόβῳ Θεοῦ.

2Co_7:1  ταυτας ουν εχοντες τας επαγγελιας αγαπητοι καθαρισωμεν εαυτους απο παντος μολυσμου σαρκος και πνευματος επιτελουντες αγιωσυνην εν φοβω θεου

2Co_7:2 Receive us in your hearts. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have defrauded no one.

2Co_7:2  Χωρήσατε ἡμᾶς· οὐδένα ἠδικήσαμεν, οὐδένα ἐφθείραμεν, οὐδένα ἐπλεονεκτήσαμεν.

 

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Num_35:15 WEB For the children of Israel, and for the stranger and for the foreigner living among them, shall these six cities be for refuge; that everyone who kills any person unwittingly may flee there.

Num_35:15 It shall be a place of refuge for the children of Israel, and for the stranger, and for him that sojourns among you; these cities shall be for a place of refuge, for everyone to flee there who has killed a man unintentionally.

Num_35:15 φυγάδιον ἔσται τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ, καὶ τῷ προσηλύτῳ καὶ τῷ παροίκῳ τῷ ἐν ὑμῖν ἔσονται αἱ πόλεις αὗται εἰς φυγαδευτήριον φυγεῖν ἐκεῖ παντὶ πατάξαντι ψυχὴν ἀκουσίως. --

 

Num_35:30 WEB Whoever kills any person, the murderer shall be slain at the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person that he die.

Num_35:30 Whoever kills a man, you shall slay the murderer on the testimony of witnesses; and one witness shall not testify against a soul that he should die.

Num_35:30 πᾶς πατάξας ψυχήν, διὰ μαρτύρων φονεύσεις τὸν φονεύσαντα, καὶ μάρτυς εἷς οὐ μαρτυρήσει ἐπὶ ψυχὴν ἀποθανεῖν.

 

“Oprah: What is the soul?

Bell: It’s the thing that keeps telling you there’s more.”

http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/07/oprah-rob-bell-and-faux-self-empowerment-for-the-self-centered/

5/16/17

 

Num_31:19 WEB  Encamp outside of the camp seven days: whoever has killed any person, and whoever has touched any slain, purify yourselves on the third day and on the seventh day, you and your captives.

Num_31:19 CAB  And you shall remain outside the camp for seven days; whoever has killed, and whoever has touched a dead body, shall be purified on the third day, and you and your captivity shall purify yourselves on the seventh day.

Num_31:19  καὶ ὑμεῖς παρεμβάλετε ἔξω τῆς παρεμβολῆς ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας· πᾶς ὁ ἀνελὼν καὶ ὁ ἁπτόμενος τοῦ τετρωμένου ἁγνισθήσεται τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ τρίτῃ καὶ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ, ὑμεῖς καὶ ἡ αἰχμαλωσία ὑμῶν·

Num_31:19  AndG2532 youG1473 campG3924.2 outsideG1854 theG3588 campG3925 sevenG2033 days,G2250 every oneG3956 G3588 doing away withG337 a soul!G5590 AndG2532 allG3956 G3588 having touchedG680 theG3588 one being piercedG5103.1 shall be purifiedG48 in theG3588 thirdG5154 day,G2250 andG2532 in theG3588 [2dayG2250 G3588 1seventh]G1442 youG1473 andG2532 G3588 your captivity.G161 G1473 

Num_31:19  καιG2532 υμειςG1473 παρεμβαλετεG3924.2 εξωG1854 τηςG3588 παρεμβοληςG3925 επταG2033 ημεραςG2250 παςG3956 οG3588 ανελωνG337 ψυχηνG5590 καιG2532 παςG3956 οG3588 αψαμενοςG680 τουG3588 τετρωμενουG5103.1 αγνισθησεταιG48 τηG3588 τριτηG5154 ημεραG2250 καιG2532 τηG3588 ημεραG2250 τηG3588 εβδομηG1442 υμειςG1473 καιG2532 ηG3588 αιχμαλωσια υμωνG161 G1473

 

Num_31:28 WEB  Levy a tribute to Yahweh of the men of war who went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the cattle, and of the donkeys, and of the flocks:

Num_31:28 And you shall take a tribute for the Lord from the warriors that went out to battle; one soul out of five hundred, from the men and from the cattle, even from the oxen, and from the sheep, and from the donkeys; and you shall take from their half.

Num_31:28  καὶ ἀφελεῖτε τέλος κυρίῳ παρὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων τῶν πολεμιστῶν τῶν ἐκπεπορευμένων εἰς τὴν παράταξιν μίαν ψυχὴν ἀπὸ πεντακοσίων ἀπὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν κτηνῶν καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν βοῶν καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν προβάτων καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν αἰγῶν·

 

Num_31:35 WEB  and thirty-two thousand persons in all, of the women who had not known man by lying with him.

Num_31:35 and of women who had not known a man intimately were thirty-two thousand.

Num_31:35  καὶ ψυχαὶ ἀνθρώπων ἀπὸ τῶν γυναικῶν, αἳ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν κοίτην ἀνδρός, πᾶσαι ψυχαὶ δύο καὶ τριάκοντα χιλιάδες.

 

Num_31:40 WEB  The persons were sixteen thousand; of whom Yahweh's tribute was thirty-two persons.

Num_31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand, and the tribute of them to the Lord was thirty-two souls.

Num_31:40  καὶ ψυχαὶ ἀνθρώπων ἑκκαίδεκα χιλιάδες, καὶ τὸ τέλος αὐτῶν κυρίῳ δύο καὶ τριάκοντα ψυχαί.

 

Num_31:46 WEB  and sixteen thousand persons),

Num_31:46 and persons, sixteen thousand.

Num_31:46  καὶ ψυχαὶ ἀνθρώπων ἓξ καὶ δέκα χιλιάδες --

 

 

Lev_19:28 WEB  " 'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you. I am Yahweh.

Lev_19:28 LB  And you shall not make cuttings in your body for a dead body, and you shall not inscribe on yourselves any marks. I am the Lord your God.

Lev_19:28  καὶ ἐντομίδας ἐπὶ ψυχῇ οὐ ποιήσετε ἐν τῷ σώματι ὑμῶν καὶ γράμματα στικτὰ οὐ ποιήσετε ἐν ὑμῖν· ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

 

Num_19:11 WEB  He who touches the dead body of any man shall be unclean seven days:

Num_19:11 LB  ‘He that touches the dead body of any man, shall be unclean for seven days.

Num_19:11  Ὁ ἁπτόμενος τοῦ τεθνηκότος πάσης ψυχῆς ἀνθρώπου ἀκάθαρτος ἔσται ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας·

Num_19:12 WEB  the same shall purify himself with water on the third day, and on the seventh day he shall be clean: but if he doesn't purify himself the third day, then the seventh day he shall not be clean.

Num_19:12 He shall be purified on the third day and the seventh day, and shall be clean; but if he is not purged on the third day and the seventh day, he shall not be clean.

Num_19:12  οὗτος ἁγνισθήσεται τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ τρίτῃ καὶ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ καὶ καθαρὸς ἔσται· ἐὰν δὲ μὴ ἀφαγνισθῇ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ τρίτῃ καὶ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ, οὐ καθαρὸς ἔσται.

Num_19:13 WEB  Whoever touches a dead person, the body of a man who has died, and doesn't purify himself, defiles the tabernacle of Yahweh; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water for impurity was not sprinkled on him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet on him.

Num_19:13 Everyone that touches the body of a man who has died, and has not been purified, has defiled the tabernacle of the Lord: that soul shall be cut off from Israel, because the water of sprinkling has not been sprinkled upon him; he is unclean, his uncleanness is yet upon him.

Num_19:13  πᾶς ὁ ἁπτόμενος τοῦ τεθνηκότος ἀπὸ ψυχῆς ἀνθρώπου, ἐὰν ἀποθάνῃ, καὶ μὴ ἀφαγνισθῇ, τὴν σκηνὴν κυρίου ἐμίανεν· ἐκτριβήσεται ἡ ψυχὴ ἐκείνη ἐξ Ισραηλ· ὅτι ὕδωρ ῥαντισμοῦ οὐ περιερραντίσθη ἐπ᾿ αὐτόν, ἀκάθαρτός ἐστιν, ἔτι ἡ ἀκαθαρσία αὐτοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ ἐστιν.

 

Num_19:16 WEB  Whoever in the open field touches one who is slain with a sword, or a dead body, or a bone of a man, or a grave, shall be unclean seven days.

Num_19:16 And everyone who shall touch a man slain by violence, or a corpse, or human bone, or tomb, shall be unclean for seven days.

Num_19:16  καὶ πᾶς, ὃς ἐὰν ἅψηται ἐπὶ προσώπου τοῦ πεδίου τραυματίου ἢ νεκροῦ ἢ ὀστέου ἀνθρωπίνου ἢ μνήματος, ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας ἀκάθαρτος ἔσται.

 

Num_19:18 WEB  and a clean person shall take hyssop, and dip it in the water, and sprinkle it on the tent, and on all the vessels, and on the persons who were there, and on him who touched the bone, or the slain, or the dead, or the grave:

Num_19:18 And a clean man shall take hyssop, and dip it into the water, and sprinkle it upon the house, and the furniture, and all the souls that are in there, and upon him that touched the human bone, or the slain man, or the corpse, or the tomb.

Num_19:18  καὶ λήμψεται ὕσσωπον καὶ βάψει εἰς τὸ ὕδωρ ἀνὴρ καθαρὸς καὶ περιρρανεῖ ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ σκεύη καὶ ἐπὶ τὰς ψυχάς, ὅσαι ἐὰν ὦσιν ἐκεῖ, καὶ ἐπὶ τὸν ἡμμένον τοῦ ὀστέου τοῦ ἀνθρωπίνου ἢ τοῦ τραυματίου ἢ τοῦ τεθνηκότος ἢ τοῦ μνήματος·

 

Num_19:22 WEB  Whatever the unclean person touches shall be unclean; and the soul that touches it shall be unclean until evening.

Num_19:22 LB  And whatsoever the unclean man shall touch shall be unclean, and the soul that touches it shall be unclean till evening.’”

Num_19:22  καὶ παντός, οὗ ἐὰν ἅψηται αὐτοῦ ὁ ἀκάθαρτος, ἀκάθαρτον ἔσται, καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ ἡ ἁπτομένη ἀκάθαρτος ἔσται ἕως ἑσπέρας.

 

 

 

Job_34:14; Isa_42:5

 

Exo_6:9 WEB  Moses spoke so to the children of Israel, but they didn't listen to Moses for anguish of spirit, and for cruel bondage.

Exo_6:9 CAB  And Moses spoke thus to the sons of Israel, and they hearkened not to Moses, on account of their faint-heartedness, and for their hard tasks.

Exo_6:9  ἐλάλησεν δὲ Μωυσῆς οὕτως τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ, καὶ οὐκ εἰσήκουσαν Μωυσῇ ἀπὸ τῆς ὀλιγοψυχίας καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν ἔργων τῶν σκληρῶν.

 

 

Jer_15:9 WEB  She who has borne seven languishes; she has given up the spirit [soul]; her sun is gone down while it was yet day; she has been disappointed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, says Yahweh.

Jer_15:9 CAB  She that bore seven is spent; her soul has fainted under trouble; her sun is gone down while it is yet noon; she is ashamed and disgraced. I will give the remnant of them to the sword before their enemies.

Jer_15:9  ἐκενώθη ἡ τίκτουσα ἑπτά, ἀπεκάκησεν ἡ ψυχὴ αὐτῆς, ἐπέδυ ὁ ἥλιος αὐτῇ ἔτι μεσούσης τῆς ἡμέρας, κατῃσχύνθη καὶ ὠνειδίσθη· τοὺς καταλοίπους αὐτῶν εἰς μάχαιραν δώσω ἐναντίον τῶν ἐχθρῶν αὐτῶν.

>> we see that not only does the spirit "fly away" (See: Ecc) but now also we see that the soul goes away...

 

Isa_10:18 WEB  He will consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body. It will be as when a standard bearer faints.

Isa_10:18 CAB  In that day the mountains shall be consumed, and the hills, and the forests, and fire shall devour both soul and body; and he that flees shall be as one fleeing from a burning flame.

Isa_10:18  ἀποσβεσθήσεται τὰ ὄρη καὶ οἱ βουνοὶ καὶ οἱ δρυμοί, καὶ καταφάγεται ἀπὸ ψυχῆς ἕως σαρκῶν· καὶ ἔσται ὁ φεύγων ὡς ὁ φεύγων ἀπὸ φλογὸς καιομένης·

 

 

Bar_2:17 Open thine eyes, and behold; for the dead that are in the graves, whose souls are taken from their bodies, will give unto the Lord neither praise nor righteousness:

Bar_2:17 ἄνοιξον, κύριε, τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς σου καὶ ἰδέ· ὅτι οὐχ οἱ τεθνηκότες ἐν τῷ ᾅδῃ, ὧν ἐλήμφθη τὸ πνεῦμα αὐτῶν ἀπὸ τῶν σπλάγχνων αὐτῶν, δώσουσιν δόξαν καὶ δικαίωμα τῷ κυρίῳ,

Bar_2:18 But the soul that is greatly vexed, which goeth stooping and feeble, and the eyes that fail, and the hungry soul, will give thee praise and righteousness, O Lord.

Bar_2:18 ἀλλὰ ἡ ψυχὴ ἡ λυπουμένη ἐπὶ τὸ μέγεθος, ὃ βαδίζει κύπτον καὶ ἀσθενοῦν καὶ οἱ ὀφθαλμοὶ οἱ ἐκλείποντες καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ ἡ πεινῶσα δώσουσίν σοι δόξαν καὶ δικαιοσύνην, κύριε.

 

 

Sir_40:11  All that is of earth returns to earth,

and what is from above returns above.1

>> get all variations

 

 

Luk_16:24  CAB Then he cried [φωνήσας] and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send [πέμψον] Lazarus ·so that [ἵνα] he may dip [βάψῃ] the tip [ἄκρον] of [that of (τοῦ)] his finger ·in water [ὕδατος] and cool [καταψύξῃ = κατα + ψύχω (verb) vs. ψυχή (noun)] my tongue

 

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"We next thank the Almighty for ennobling man with a Divine soul, the source of his spirituality and moral excellence"

(OJMS, p. 20)

 

 

>> get refs from dar book!: dead soul

 

>> look up/get from ES:

Mat_15:17-20 -

belly = where the soul is?

Hert = ?

Lungs = Spirit?

is this how strongholds can still be in your body without you being sinful/defilled?

 

 

Sir_5:2 Brenton  Follow not thine own mind [רץק – soul (as NETS says)] and thy strength, to walk in the ways [ניטץלביע – lustful heatings upons] of thy heart:

 

Sir_5:2 Greek  ל מבךןכןטוי פ רץק ףןץ ךב פ ףקי ףןץ נןסווףטבי ם ניטץלביע ךבסהבע ףןץ·

 

 

Wis_16:14 Brenton  A man indeed killeth through his malice: and the spirit, when it is gone forth, returneth not; neither the soul received up cometh again.

 

Wis_16:14  םטסשנןע ה נןךפםםוי לם פ ךבךίᾳ בפן, מוכטם ה נםולב ןך םבףפסצוי ןה םבכוי רץקם נבסבכחלצטוףבם.

 

on one hand, it sounds like "soul" is in prison, but the spirit is 'departed to Him who gave it' (as Ecc says), but compare with:

 

1Pe_3:19  by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

1Pe_3:19  ום ש ךבי פןיע ום צץכבךח נםוץלבףים נןסוץטויע וךחסץמום

 

 

 

 

Wis_15:8-17 Brenton  And employing his labours lewdly, he maketh a vain god of the same clay, even he which a little before was made of earth himself, and within a little while after returneth to the same, out when his life [פע רץקע] which was lent him shall be demanded [see Greek].  9  Notwithstanding his care is, not that he shall have much labour, nor that *his life is short [* גסבקץפוכ גןם קוי]: but striveth to excel goldsmiths and silversmiths, and endeavoureth to do like the workers in brass, and counteth it his glory to make counterfeit things.  10  His heart is ashes [ףנןהע], his hope is more vile than earth, and his life [גןע] of less value [פילפוסןע] than clay:  11  Forasmuch as he knew not his Maker, and him that inspired [לנםוףבםפב] into him an active soul [רץקם םוסדןףבם], and breathed in a living spirit [לצץףףבםפב נםולב זשפיךם].  12  But they counted our life [פם זשם לם] a pastime [נבדםיןם], and *our time [of life] here [* גןם] a market for gain: for, say they, we must be getting every way, though it be by evil means.  13  For this man, that of earthly matter maketh brittle vessels and graven images, knoweth himself to offend above all others.  14  And all the enemies of thy people, that hold them in subjection, are most foolish, and are more miserable than very [souls of] babes [רץקם םחנןץ].  15  For they counted all the idols of the heathen to be gods: which neither have the use of eyes to see, nor noses to draw breath, nor ears to hear, nor fingers of hands to handle; and as for their feet, they are slow to go.  16  For man made them, and he that borrowed his own spirit [נםולב הוהבםויףלםןע] fashioned them: but no man can [ףקוי] make a god like unto himself.  17  For being mortal [טםחפע], he worketh a dead [םוךסם] thing with wicked hands: for he himself is better than the things which he worshippeth: whereas he lived once, but they never.

 

 

 

 

Wis_11:22-26 Brenton  For the whole world before thee is as a little grain of the balance, yea, as a drop of the morning dew that falleth down upon the earth.  23  But thou hast mercy upon all; for thou canst do all things, and winkest at the sins of men, because they should amend.  24  For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.  25  And how could any thing have endured, if it had not been thy will? or been preserved, if not called by thee?  26  But thou sparest all: for they are thine, O Lord, thou lover of souls  [ציכרץקו].

 

Wis_12:1  For thine incorruptible Spirit is in all things.

Wis_12:1  פ דס צטבספם ףןץ נםול ףפים ם נףים.

Wis_12:2  Therefore chastenest thou them by little and little that offend, and warnest them by putting them in remembrance wherein they have offended, that leaving their wickedness they may believe on thee, O Lord.

 

Cannibalism and Blood Transfusions

…; 2/6/17 (recompiled); 2/4/18

TAGS: Canablism, canibleism

>> Belongs here or OUC?

 

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Deu_28:53-57

Deu_28:55, Deu_28:57, Lev_26:29, 2Ki_6:28, 2Ki_6:29, Jer_19:9, Lam_2:20, Lam_4:10, Eze_5:10, Mat_24:19

>> Sync: LO | SPI (not OUC?) > Cannibalism

 

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Cannibalism is wrong because it desecrates the body.

>> see: OUC

 

>> Saul

They would rather risk their lives to sacred-ify Saul’s body, and this is commended

 

Hard Issues

>> Saul gets burnt

>> Judges: man w wife

 

Tragedy prophesied as Judgement

Just as rape, death, etc.

>> this implies that you are supposed to want this to never happen so much that you would rather die

 

Conclusion:

>> King tore clothes because it happened

 

 

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Wis_12:3-7 Brenton  For it was thy will to destroy by the hands of our fathers both those old inhabitants of thy holy land,  4  Whom thou hatedst for doing most odious works of witchcrafts, and wicked sacrifices;  5  And also those merciless murderers of children, and devourers of man's flesh, and the feasts of blood,  6  With their priests out of the midst of their idolatrous crew, and the parents, that killed with their own hands souls destitute of help [compare NETS]:  7  That the land, which thou esteemedst above all other, might receive a worthy colony of God's children.

> compare other occurentce of this passage under, Abortion

 

 

 

 

 

Zec_12:1 CAB  The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel. Thus says the Lord, that stretches out the sky, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit [נםולב] of man [םטסנןץ] within [ם] him.

 

Hab_1:11 CAB  Then shall he change his spirit [KJV faslifies this as "mind"], and he shall pass through, and make an atonement, saying, This strength belongs to my God.

 

LXX only:

Zep_3:4 CAB  Her prophets are insolent [נםוץלבפןצסןי – carried (and פן-?) by spirit-winds] and scornful men: her priests profane the holy things, and sinfully transgress the law.

 

think: blood covenants...:

Zec_13:6 WEB  One will say to him, 'What are these wounds between your arms?' Then he will answer, 'Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.'

 

Animals Have A Spirit and a Soul

(Ecc_3:21)  And who has seen the spirit of the sons of men, whether it goes upward? And the spirit of the beast, whether it goes downward to the earth?

 

(Pro_12:10)  A righteous man has pity for the lives (lit. soul) of his cattle, but the bowels of the ungodly are unmerciful.

 

 

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Blood

6/1/12; 7/3/13; 2/6/17 (recompiled); 2/18/17 (random nuggets imported from No Flesh); 4/8/17

 

Human Wickedness – The Rebellion Of The Flesh

The heart of man brewing over evil continually

I despise myself

Trust in own heart is a fool

condemned sin in sinful man

Too much for the flesh to keep up with

Got to live by the word of God... Anything else is a life of worthless learning of vanity... "ever learning but never able to acknowledge truth"

 

 

Don't Eat Soul

The Soul Alters the flesh

Other date(s); 9/21/19

 

Gen_9:3-6

Lev_17:10-14

Deu_12:23-25

 

 

Lev_17:10 WEB  " 'Any man of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who live as foreigners among them, who eats any kind of blood, I will set my face against that soul who eats blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

Lev_17:10 LB  ‘And whatever man of the children of Israel, or of the strangers abiding among you, shall eat any blood, I will even set My face against that soul that eats blood, and I will destroy that soul from among its people.

Lev_17:10  Καὶ ἄνθρωπος ἄνθρωπος τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ ἢ τῶν προσηλύτων τῶν προσκειμένων ἐν ὑμῖν, ὃς ἂν φάγῃ πᾶν αἷμα, καὶ ἐπιστήσω τὸ πρόσωπόν μου ἐπὶ τὴν ψυχὴν τὴν ἔσθουσαν τὸ αἷμα καὶ ἀπολῶ αὐτὴν ἐκ τοῦ λαοῦ αὐτῆς.

Lev_17:11 WEB  For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that makes atonement by reason of the life.

Lev_17:11 For the life of flesh is its blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for its blood shall make atonement for the soul.

Lev_17:11  ἡ γὰρ ψυχὴ πάσης σαρκὸς αἷμα αὐτοῦ ἐστιν, καὶ ἐγὼ δέδωκα αὐτὸ ὑμῖν ἐπὶ τοῦ θυσιαστηρίου ἐξιλάσκεσθαι περὶ τῶν ψυχῶν ὑμῶν· τὸ γὰρ αἷμα αὐτοῦ ἀντὶ τῆς ψυχῆς ἐξιλάσεται.

Lev_17:12 WEB  Therefore I have said to the children of Israel, "No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who lives as a foreigner among you eat blood."

Lev_17:12 Therefore I said to the children of Israel, ‘No soul of you shall eat blood, and the stranger that abides among you shall not eat blood.

Lev_17:12  διὰ τοῦτο εἴρηκα τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Πᾶσα ψυχὴ ἐξ ὑμῶν οὐ φάγεται αἷμα, καὶ ὁ προσήλυτος ὁ προσκείμενος ἐν ὑμῖν οὐ φάγεται αἷμα.

Lev_17:13 WEB  " 'Whatever man there is of the children of Israel, or of the strangers who live as foreigners among them, who takes in hunting any animal or bird that may be eaten; he shall pour out its blood, and cover it with dust.

Lev_17:13 And whatever man of the children of Israel, or of the strangers abiding among you shall take any animal in hunting, beast, or bird, which is eaten, then shall he pour out the blood, and cover it in the dust.

Lev_17:13  καὶ ἄνθρωπος ἄνθρωπος τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ καὶ τῶν προσηλύτων τῶν προσκειμένων ἐν ὑμῖν, ὃς ἂν θηρεύσῃ θήρευμα θηρίον ἢ πετεινόν, ὃ ἔσθεται, καὶ ἐκχεεῖ τὸ αἷμα καὶ καλύψει αὐτὸ τῇ γῇ·

Lev_17:14 WEB  For as to the life of all flesh, its blood is with its life: therefore I said to the children of Israel, "You shall not eat the blood of any kind of flesh; for the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off."

Lev_17:14 LB  For the blood of all flesh is its life; and I said to the children of Israel, ‘You shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood: everyone that eats it shall be destroyed.

Lev_17:14  ἡ γὰρ ψυχὴ πάσης σαρκὸς αἷμα αὐτοῦ ἐστιν, καὶ εἶπα τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Αἷμα πάσης σαρκὸς οὐ φάγεσθε, ὅτι ἡ ψυχὴ πάσης σαρκὸς αἷμα αὐτοῦ ἐστιν· πᾶς ὁ ἔσθων αὐτὸ ἐξολεθρευθήσεται.

>> SPI | API

 

 

This even applies to all humans descended under the covenant of Noah, including pagans.

 

Zec_9:6-7 WEB  Foreigners will dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines.  7  I will take away his blood out of his mouth, and his abominations from between his teeth; and he also will be a remnant for our God; and he will be as a chieftain in Judah, and Ekron as a Jebusite.

 

Cooking is the Soul Solution

Lev_3:16-17; 1Sa_14:32-35

 

Jesus Gave His Soul

Mat_20:28; Rev_5:9

 

Sin of Soulishness

See: Soulishness is a Sin!

 

 

The Flesh is defiled

Gal_5:17-24

Rom_7:18, Rom_7:21-25, Rom_8:5, Rom_8:6, Rom_8:13;

 

Don't Be of the Flesh!

Rom 7 & 8

Gal 5 & 6

Esp:

Gal_5:16-18

 

 

Pour out the blood of animals, and cover it with dust

 

 

Lam_4:14 CAB  ( נ ) NUN. Her watchmen staggered in the streets, they were defiled with blood in their weakness, they touched their clothing with it.

Lam_4:14 WEB  They wander as blind men in the streets, they are polluted with blood, So that men can't touch their garments.

 

Hos_4:2 CAB  Cursing, and lying, and murder, and theft, and adultery bound in the land, and they mingle blood with blood.

Hos_4:2 KJV  By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

[Hos_4:2 WEB  There is cursing, lying, murder, stealing, and committing adultery; they break boundaries, and bloodshed causes bloodshed.]

 

TSK: Lam_2:20, Eze_9:5-7, 1Pe_4:17,

Reciprocal: 2Ch_36:17 - in the house Job_1:19 - it fell Job_22:20 - our substance Psa_74:4

 

Vaccine

- Tetnis

- Rabise

 

anti-vhenom = from horses

 

Albumin = proteen (from plazma?)

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7/3/13

 

H: im at the interview plaxe

 

H: after interviewing this is my main question

 

H: is it ok to mix human blood with animal blood for the sole purpose of calibrating a machine not for human consumption?

 

hd joined the chat

 

hd: wow......

 

H: I know that Jesus mentions peoples blood getting mixed with the sacrifices...but im not sure if ut is morally wrong to mix the human blood outside if it wont go inside a human...

 

H: like if my blood dropped into my dogs blood did a moral issue just happen similar ti her blood falling into my mouth or something...?

 

H: *my drop into my dogs blood that is spilled on the floor vs her blood dropping inro my mouth

 

H: hello amazing wise overseer!!

 

hd: 11:43 AM – Hi clean H!

 

hd: this 'mixing' is a form of intentional desecration and dishonor for those who were killed

 

hd: Luk_13:1-3 CAB And some people were present at that very time, reporting to Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 Not at all, I tell you; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.

 

hd: "they suffered such things" = death + mixed blood (cheapening/desecration/defilement after death)

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went over the above Scriptures...

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H: wow...thanks for opening my eyes at how serious this issue is...I am very glad this aspect of what they do slipped out of their mouth. they treated it like some small aspect and I would have never known if it didnt slip out their mouths. thank you sir now I know that I should dcline the job if I get it.

 

Soulishness is a Sin!

The Sin of Soulishness

8/16/14; 2/21/17 (recompiled); 3/6/17

tags: soulishness

 

Sin of Soulishness

Our Soul is defiled -- Being Soulish is sin

Other dates; 3/6/17 (moved)

 

ψυχικός – psuchikos (G5591)

1Co_2:14;

1Co_15:44;

1Co_15:46;

Jas_3:15;

Jud_1:19;

 

 

Foolish Pagan Churchy Nonsense Thinks Soul-ishness is OK!

I IN PRAYER AND PRAISE THEIR IS AN ELEMENT OF EMOTION AND COMMUNION. Human nature is so constituted that it is capable of great excitement, and Oriental nature, as is well known, is peculiarly sensitive to impressions and susceptible of enthusiasms and hallucinations. Now, religion, which consists in the relation and intercourse of the soul with the unseen, has peculiar power to raise some natures to a high pitch of excitement. The gesticulations, the self inflicted tortures of devotees, the religious campaigns and wars of the East, are illustrations. Even at Corinth, a Grecian city, though largely frequented by Orientals, manifestations of enthusiasm were common in the Christian society. Paul himself was sometimes transported, in a trance, into unfamiliar and celestial regions of experience. He has not a word to say against those religious exercises which took place in "the spirit," i.e. which consisted in highly wrought feeling, in a consciousness of the presence of God

(Pulpit on 1Co_14:15)

 

Egocentrism

3/6/17

Tags: Egocentricism

 

>>Scrip:

The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself

 

Nabal – egocentric & egotistical

·        “You can’t speak to him” because he’s already got filthiness rattling around in his useless and foolish head

 

Self-Denial Cures Soulish Egocentrism

compare: all the self-denial of Jesus & Paul, etc.

 

Spiritual Warfare

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

Compiled: 8/24/09 - 8/25/09; Edited: 9/16/09; 11/7/09; 2/3/10; 11/8/10; 4/30/12; Strongholds: 5/12/12-5/13/12; 5/18/12-5/19/12; 9/29/12 (N.o.Sp.R.); 10/5/12; 10/9/12; 10/11/12; 2/06/14-2/7/14; 10/30/14 (The Gaderine Demoniac << link this…); 2/6/17 (recompiled)

 

http://www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html

>> SPW Additions / TODO!

How To Get Out Of A Rut

Doctrine Despised

Mid-Point Review

>> Examples of Ruts

Humility

>> Bad Feelings Are Often Personal Guilt that Requires Repentance

Resistance

Breathing Events

>> review: Ignorant & Superstitious Nervousness vs. Faithful Zeal Toward Breathing Events

>> etc.

>> Puffs of Soul and Spirit

>> Things I Partly Know: Breathing Events Work

Stop Working Postures

Doing Spiritual Warfare for Each Other

 

 

 

Introduction

This Bible Study is only at the point of somewhat being my personal notes so far. But nonetheless these things below have some extremely useful Bible verses concerning Spiritual Warfare to memorize and always quote in prayer and fighting. Please keep in mind to take these things seriously and be disciplined to especially quote these out loud to violently attack satan during times of prayer, in the morning and the evening.

 

[Note: If you can think of other Bible verses that could be helpful here, please email me with your thoughts.]

 

Main Verses On Spiritual Warfare

Other dates (many years older ~ 2009 or so); 4/8/18 (Eph_6 significantly enhanced)

Eph_6:18 (see: ArmorofGod)

 

Main Passages

·        ArmorofGod

·        WeaponsOfOurWarfare

 

 

Mat_10:1 – Jesus gives authority to His disciples (and see Mar_6:7 Luk_9:1; as well as Luk_10:19-20 below)

 

Mat_28:18 – Jesus has all authority, so we have confidence to go with what He’s given us. (also compare Mar_16:15-18 for “power” authority)

 

Luk_10:19-20 WEB  Behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will in any way hurt you.   20  Nevertheless, don't rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

 

The Keys of the Kingdom: Mat_16:19, Mat_18:18-19;

 

Pro_28:1 WEB  The wicked flee when no one pursues; But the righteous are as bold as a lion.

 

Mar_5:36 WEB  But Jesus, when he heard the message spoken, immediately said to the ruler of the synagogue, "Don't be afraid, only believe."

>> Sync multiple occurrences herein

 

1Jn_4:18 WEB  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment.* He who fears is not made perfect in love.

 

*[In other words, fear is for those who have the judgment of God looming over their head, But not for those who have real Love from God]

 

2Ti_1:7 Jos.Trans. For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

 

Rom_16:20 WEB  And the God of peace will quickly crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

 

Jesus says about satan:

Joh_12:31 WEB  Now is the judgment of this world. Now the prince of this world will be cast out.

 

Jas_2:19 WEB  You believe that God is one. You do well. The demons also believe, and shudder.

Mar_12:29-31 WEB  Jesus answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one:   30  you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment.   31  The second is like this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

 

A Declaration to Oppose the Devil

>> Get / merge this passage from LO !!!

Php_2:5-11 WEB  Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus,  6  who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider it robbery to be equal with God, [a better summary would be “didn’t consider [lit. lead himself into (thinking)] equality with God (was) something to be snatched”]  7  but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.  8  And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross.  9  Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;  10  that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth,  11  and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

>> Sync: ROW (Php_2:3-12) | SPI (Php_2:5-11) | LO (Php_2:1-4) | LLO | Dis (Php_2:2-3) | PFO (Php_2:12) | BBMem

 

 

Jas_4:7-10 EMTV Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.  8  Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.  9  Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter change into mourning and your joy into dejection.  10  Be humbled before the Lord, and He will exalt you.

>> quoted in other BBS…

 

1Pe_5:5-9 EMTV ...And all of you...be clothed with humility, because "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."  6  Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,  7  casting all your anxiety upon Him, because He cares about you.  8  Be sober, be watchful; your adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion, seeking someone he may devour.  9  Resist him, being steadfast in your faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.

>> quoted in other BBS…

 

 

DAP Notes

8/23/20 (Typed by V); 8/30/20

 

8/23/20

Sometimes there are times of distinctions and sometimes there is time to clump things together.

 

distinction - don't worship angels of God

 

clumping together - how can Satan cast out Satan. Satan clump with demons.

Angels can be clump together with Holy Spirit.

 

1 Cor 12 and 1 John 3-4

 

1 John 3 is the  heart of the book.ii

clumping if they are out of God.

 

we need help and we are in danger of not asking enough

angel sent to help Peter out of jail

God sent messages through Messengers

 

God divis out gifts as he will so we would depend on each other

 

Revelation 1:1 the book of Revelation was brought to John by an angel

 

bottom line: ask for angels in warfare type things and when whenever you need help especially with external warfare. think of angels as God extended arms.

 

cherimbim - cute things?

serif/sherif/serephim - burning one, snake

arch angels - like Michael

messenger - Angelo, Malick

 

Sir regularly prays that the One Spirit that is holy to save him

 

Sir prays that God send angel Messengers to send anything that he doesn't have yet (salvation, wisdom, free of emotional bondage, etc)

 

overall goal - don't blasphem, speak evil of, speak falsely , speak in a damaging way/damage speak

 

The word God is a gift to us

is a concept of a development. In Hebrew the word The word God went through a radical development.

the original aleph was a bull's head (L) Shepherd staff.

power ruler

a king is making himself God. he wears an (A) crown on his head and he has a Shepherd's staff septer in his hand.

AL - Aleph El

A - power, horn

L - pull in whatever direction you want. lead, rule

 

Genesis 1 is a poem possibly written by Adam

Genesis 2 has Moses' finger

print on it. not same format, more descriptive.

 

anything in be

warfare -the main command is the stand (your ground)

 

really pray fire and brimstone, torment, go out and do spiritual warfare, pray for all the saints and pray for Sir

 

VcSun 2:40pm

 

 

I have 2 questions

Hd: Here is a question I have wondered. It might be simple but I have wondered if there is ever room for mercy for demons/devil's. Especially in light of us judging angels.

Question #2 relating to this topic

Are all evil spirits incapable of doing righteousness?

 

Internal vs External Warfare

8/2/20; 8/3/20; 8/9/20

 

Main Passages

·        2nd Corinthians 10 – WeaponsOfOurWarfare (Strongholds)

·        2Pe_2:10-12; Jud_1:6-10ReverenceArchRulers

·        Ephesians 6 – ArmorofGod (Fight Arch-Rulers)

 

What are Strongholds?

8/2/20; 8/9/20

 

VcSun 8:17pm

Strongholds - it's words, thoughts, knowledge that oppose God's knowledge.

 

Strongholds are Internal

AySun 8:18pm

Strongholds are always internal?

 

@Ay: Yes, strongholds are internal unless of course you are fighting someone else's internal strongholds (like Paul), in which case they would be external to you.

 

In short: Strongholds are inherently internal in their Warfare.

 

Do internal spiritual warfare to tear down these strongholds.

 

Internal spiritual warfare is a requirement to not get kicked out of the church and be crushed by Jesus' mighty power.

 

The Auto-Responsibility of Internal Stronghold Warfare

·        You already automatically inherently own authority over your own internal atmosphere / weather.

·        In fact, you are personally responsible for own internal atmosphere “out of the box” without any special commission or authorization (somewhat unlike external warfare)

·        Auto-responsibility is unique and particular to internal warfare.

·        Auto-responsibility means Auto-authority, because in a Kingdom of Justice there is no “responsibility” (or pseudo-responsibility) without authority.

·        With external Warfare you have to be given and you have to take authority, whereas with internal Warfare you already have authority unless you have previously relinquished it to the wrong master.

 

Start With Relationships to Fight Strongholds

 

VcSun 8:24pm

Start with relationships

Lust, making sure you're loving people- (if a demon bring an accusation against someone don't fornicate with them [the demons], Fight!!! And quickly bring the accusation under the knowledge of God with God's powerful ability)

Believe sure God loves you

Believe there is hope for your life

 

1Jn_2:10  – if we love the brothers there is no scandal in us!

1Jn_2:10 CAB  He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.

1Jn_2:9 GRVii+  οG3588T-NSM  the λεγωνG3004V-PAP-NSM λέγω to lay forth ενG1722PREP ἔν in τωG3588T-DSN  the φωτιG5457N-DSN φῶς luminousness ειναιG1511V-PXN εἰμί to exist καιG2532CONJ καί and τονG3588T-ASM  the αδελφονG80N-ASM ἀδελφός a brother αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it μισωνG3404V-PAP-NSM μισέω to detest ενG1722PREP ἔν in τηG3588T-DSF  the σκοτιαG4653N-DSF σκοτία dimness εστινG2076V-PXI-3S εἰμί he is εωςG2193CONJ ἕως a conjunction αρτιG737ADV ἄρτι just now

1Jn_2:10 GRVii+  οG3588T-NSM  the αγαπωνG25V-PAP-NSM ἀγαπάω to love τονG3588T-ASM  the αδελφονG80N-ASM ἀδελφός a brother αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it ενG1722PREP ἔν in τωG3588T-DSN  the φωτιG5457N-DSN φῶς luminousness μενειG3306V-PAI-3S μένω to stay καιG2532CONJ καί and σκανδαλονG4625N-NSN σκάνδαλον a trap-stick ενG1722PREP ἔν in αυτωG846P-DSM αὐτός he, she, it ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not εστινG2076V-PXI-3S εἰμί he is

1Jn_2:11 GRVii+  οG3588T-NSM  the δεG1161CONJ δέ but μισωνG3404V-PAP-NSM μισέω to detest τονG3588T-ASM  the αδελφονG80N-ASM ἀδελφός a brother αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it ενG1722PREP ἔν in τηG3588T-DSF  the σκοτιαG4653N-DSF σκοτία dimness εστινG2076V-PXI-3S εἰμί he is καιG2532CONJ καί and ενG1722PREP ἔν in τηG3588T-DSF  the σκοτιαG4653N-DSF σκοτία dimness περιπατειG4043V-PAI-3S περιπατέω to tread all around καιG2532CONJ καί and ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not οιδενG1492V-RAI-3S οἶδα to see πουG4225PRT πού somewhere υπαγειG5217V-PAI-3S ὑπάγω to lead under οτιG3754CONJ ὅτι that, because ηG3588T-NSF  the σκοτιαG4653N-NSF σκοτία dimness ετυφλωσενG5186V-AAI-3S τυφλόω to make blind τουςG3588T-APM  the οφθαλμουςG3788N-APM ὀφθαλμός the eye αυτουG846P-GSM αὐτός he, she, it

 

 

2nd Corinthians 10 – The Weapons Of Our Warfare

 

Compare

·        Internal vs External Warfare

·        2Pe_2:10-12; Jud_1:6-10ReverenceArchRulers

·        Ephesians 6 – ArmorofGod

 

2Co_10:3-6 EMTV  For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.  4  For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty by God to the pulling down of strongholds,  5  casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ,  6  and being ready to avenge every act of disobedience, whenever your obedience is fulfilled.

 

2Co_10:3 GRVii+  ενG1722PREP ἔν in σαρκιG4561N-DSF σάρξ flesh γαρG1063CONJ γάρ assigning a reason περιπατουντεςG4043V-PAP-NPM περιπατέω to tread all around ουG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not καταG2596PREP κατά down σαρκαG4561N-ASF σάρξ flesh στρατευομεθαG4754V-PMI-1P στρατεύομαι to serve in a military campaign

2Co_10:4 GRVii+  ταG3588T-NPN  the γαρG1063CONJ γάρ assigning a reason οπλαG3696N-NPN ὅπλον an implement τηςG3588T-GSF  the στρατειαςG4752N-GSF στρατεία military service ημωνG2257P-1GP ἐγώ of us ουG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not σαρκικαG4559A-NPN σαρκικός pertaining to flesh αλλαG235CONJ ἀλλά other things δυναταG1415A-NPN δυνατός powerful τωG3588T-DSM  the θεωG2316N-DSM θεός god προςG4314PREP πρός forward to καθαιρεσινG2506N-ASF καθαίρεσις demolition οχυρωματωνG3794N-GPN ὀχύρωμα a castle

2Co_10:5 GRVii+  λογισμουςG3053N-APM λογισμός computation καθαιρουντεςG2507V-PAP-NPM καθαιρέω to lower demolish καιG2532CONJ καί and πανG3956A-ASN πᾶς all υψωμαG5313N-ASN ὕψωμα an elevated place επαιρομενονG1869V-PMP-ASN ἐπαίρω to raise up καταG2596PREP κατά down τηςG3588T-GSF  the γνωσεωςG1108N-GSF γνῶσις knowing τουG3588T-GSM  the θεουG2316N-GSM θεός god καιG2532CONJ καί and αιχμαλωτιζοντεςG163V-PAP-NPM αἰχμαλωτίζω to make captive πανG3956A-ASN πᾶς all νοημαG3540N-ASN νόημα a perception ειςG1519PREP εἰς to τηνG3588T-ASF  the υπακοηνG5218N-ASF ὑπακοή attentive hearkening τουG3588T-GSM  the χριστουG5547N-GSM Χριστός anointed

2Co_10:6 GRVii+  καιG2532CONJ καί and ενG1722PREP ἔν in ετοιμωG2092A-DSN ἑτοίμος adjusted εχοντεςG2192V-PAP-NPM ἔχω to hold εκδικησαιG1556V-AAN ἐκδικέω to vindicate πασανG3956A-ASF πᾶς all παρακοηνG3876N-ASF παρακοή inattention οτανG3752CONJ ὅταν whenever πληρωθηG4137V-APS-3S πληρόω to make replete υμωνG5216P-2GP σύ of you ηG3588T-NSF  the υπακοηG5218N-NSF ὑπακοή attentive hearkening

 

Reverence Arch-Rulers

Other date(s) (much earlier 2000s); 8/9/20; 8/30/20 (Zec 3)

 

Compare

·        Internal vs External Warfare

·        2nd Corinthians 10 – WeaponsOfOurWarfare

·        Ephesians 6 – ArmorofGod

 

 

Zechariah 3

Zec 3:1 WEB  He showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Yahweh, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary.

Zec 3:1 CAB  Fourth Vision: Joshua and Satan And the Lord showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the Lord, and the devil stood on his right hand to resist him.

Zec 3:1  Καὶ ἔδειξέν μοι Ἰησοῦν τὸν ἱερέα τὸν μέγαν ἑστῶτα πρὸ προσώπου ἀγγέλου κυρίου, καὶ ὁ διάβολος εἱστήκει ἐκ δεξιῶν αὐτοῦ τοῦ ἀντικεῖσθαι αὐτῷ.

Zec 3:2  WEB  Yahweh said to Satan, "Yahweh rebuke you, Satan! Yes, Yahweh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Isn't this a burning stick plucked out of the fire?"

Zec 3:2 And the Lord said to the devil, “The Lord rebuke you, O devil, even the Lord that has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you. Behold, is not this as a brand plucked from the fire?”

Zec 3:2  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς τὸν διάβολον Ἐπιτιμήσαι κύριος ἐν σοί, διάβολε, καὶ ἐπιτιμήσαι κύριος ἐν σοὶ ὁ ἐκλεξάμενος τὴν Ιερουσαλημ· οὐκ ἰδοὺ τοῦτο ὡς δαλὸς ἐξεσπασμένος ἐκ πυρός;

 

The following redemption context is similar to Rom_8:

·        Election secures divine defence & forgiveness

·        Arch rulers cannot separate us

 

2nd Peter 2 – CAB-GRVii+

2Pe_2:10-12 CAB  and especially those who walk [πορευομένους] after [ὀπίσω] the flesh in the lust [ἐπιθυμίᾳ] of uncleanness [μιασμοῦ] and despise [καταφρονοῦντας] authority [κυριότητος]. ·They are bold [τολμηταί (Strong: “daring (audacious)… - presumptuous”)], self-willed [αὐθάδεις], ·illustrious persons [?], they do not tremble at blaspheming [glories],  11  whereas angels, being greater in might and in power, do not bring a slanderous judgment against them before the Lord.  12  But these, as unreasoning natural animals, having been born for capture and destruction, blaspheme at things which they are ignorant of, and shall be destroyed in their destruction,

 

2Pe 2:10-12 Greek  μάλιστα δὲ τοὺς ὀπίσω σαρκὸς ἐν ἐπιθυμίᾳ μιασμοῦ πορευομένους καὶ κυριότητος καταφρονοῦντας. τολμηταί αὐθάδεις, δόξας οὐ τρέμουσι βλασφημοῦντες,  11  ὅπου ἄγγελοι, ἰσχύϊ καὶ δυνάμει μείζονες ὄντες, οὐ φέρουσι κατ᾿ αὐτῶν παρὰ Κυρίῳ βλάσφημον κρίσιν.  12  οὗτοι δέ, ἄλογα ζῷα φυσικὰ γεγεννημένα εἰς ἅλωσιν καὶ φθοράν, ἐν οἷς ἀγνοοῦσι βλασφημοῦντες, ἐν τῇ φθορᾷ αὐτῶν καταφθαρήσονται,

 

2Pe_2:10  μαλισταG3122ADV μάλα most δεG1161CONJ δέ but τουςG3588T-APM  the οπισωG3694ADV ὀπίσω to the back σαρκοςG4561N-GSF σάρξ flesh ενG1722PREP ἔν in επιθυμιαG1939N-DSF ἐπιθυμία a longing μιασμουG3394N-GSM μιασμός contamination πορευομενουςG4198V-PNP-APM πορεύομαι to traverse καιG2532CONJ καί and κυριοτητοςG2963N-GSF κυριότης mastery καταφρονουνταςG2706V-PAP-APM καταφρονέω to think against τολμηταιG5113N-NPM τολμητής a daring man αυθαδειςG829A-NPM αὐθάδης self-pleasing δοξαςG1391N-APF δόξα glory ουG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not τρεμουσινG5141V-PAI-3P τρέμω to tremble βλασφημουντεςG987V-PAP-NPM βλασφημέω to vilify 

2Pe_2:11  οπουG3699ADV ὅπου what where αγγελοιG32N-NPM ἄγγελος a messenger ισχυιG2479N-DSF ἰσχύς forcefulness καιG2532CONJ καί and δυναμειG1411N-DSF δύναμις force μειζονεςG3173A-NPM-C μέγας big οντεςG5607V-PXP-NPM εἰμί being ουG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not φερουσινG5342V-PAI-3P φέρω to bear κατG2596PREP κατά down αυτωνG846P-GPM αὐτός he, she, it παραG3844PREP παρά near κυριωG2962N-DSM κύριος lord ντσβ [κυριουG2962N-GSM κύριος lord] α βλασφημονG989A-ASF βλάσφημος scurrilious κρισινG2920N-ASF κρίσις decision 

2Pe_2:12  ουτοιG3778D-NPM οὗτος the he δεG1161CONJ δέ but ωςG5613ADV ὡς which how αλογαG249A-NPN ἄλογος irrational ζωαG2226N-NPN ζῶον a live thing γεγεννημεναG1080V-RPP-NPN γεννάω to procreate να φυσικαG5446A-NPN φυσικός physical [γεγενημεναG1080V-RPP-NPN γεννάω to procreate] τσβ ειςG1519PREP εἰς to αλωσινG259N-ASF ἅλωσις capture καιG2532CONJ καί and φθορανG5356N-ASF φθορά decay ενG1722PREP ἔν in οιςG3739R-DPM ὅς who, which αγνοουσινG50V-PAI-3P ἀγνοέω not to know βλασφημουντεςG987V-PAP-NPM βλασφημέω to vilify ενG1722PREP ἔν in τηG3588T-DSF  the φθοραG5356N-DSF φθορά decay αυτωνG846P-GPM αὐτός he, she, it καιG2532CONJ καί and να φθαρησονταιG5351V-2FPI-3S φθείρω to shrivel να [καταφθαρησονταιG2704V-2FPI-3P καταφθείρω to spoil entirely] τσβ 

 

Jude v 6-10 – CAB-GRVii+

 

Jud_1:6-10 CAB  And the angels who did not keep their own domain [αρχην – see: Eph_1:21 (singular), Col_1:16 (plural)], but rather having left their own habitation, He has kept with everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;  7  as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to fornication and having gone after other flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.  8  Likewise indeed even these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme glories.  9  Yet Michael the archangel, when taking issue with the devil, was arguing about the body of Moses, dared not to bring a railing accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"  10  But these speak blasphemously of those things which they do not know; but what they do know naturally, like unreasoning animals, they are destroyed by these things.

 

Jud_1:6  αγγελουςG32N-APM ἄγγελος a messenger τεG5037PRT τέ both τουςG3588T-APM  the μηG3361PRT-N μή not τηρησανταςG5083V-AAP-APM τηρέω to guard τηνG3588T-ASF  the εαυτωνG1438F-3GPM ἑαυτού -self αρχηνG746N-ASF ἀρχή a commencement αλλαG235CONJ ἀλλά other things απολιπονταςG620V-2AAP-APM ἀπολείπω to leave behind τοG3588T-ASN  the ιδιονG2398A-ASN ἴδιος pertaining to self οικητηριονG3613N-ASN οἰκητήριον a residence ειςG1519PREP εἰς to κρισινG2920N-ASF κρίσις decision μεγαληςG3173A-GSF μέγας big ημεραςG2250N-GSF ἡμέρα day δεσμοιςG1199N-DPM δεσμόν a band αιδιοιςG126A-DPM ἀΐδιος everduring υποG5259PREP ὑπό under ζοφονG2217N-ASM ζόφος gloom τετηρηκενG5083V-RAI-3S τηρέω to guard 

Jud_1:7  ωςG5613ADV ὡς which how σοδομαG4670N-NPN Σόδομα Sodoma καιG2532CONJ καί and γομορραG1116N-NSF Γόμορῥα Gomorrha καιG2532CONJ καί and αιG3588T-NPF  the περιG4012PREP περί through αυταςG846P-APF αὐτός he, she, it πολειςG4172N-NPF πόλις a town τονG3588T-ASM  the ομοιονG3664A-ASM ὅμοιος similar [τουτοιςG5125D-DPM οὗτος to these] τσβ τροπονG5158N-ASM τρόπος a turn τουτοιςG5125D-DPM οὗτος to these να εκπορνευσασαιG1608V-AAP-NPF ἐκπορνεύω to be utterly unchaste καιG2532CONJ καί and απελθουσαιG565V-2AAP-NPF ἀπέρχομαι to go off οπισωG3694ADV ὀπίσω to the back σαρκοςG4561N-GSF σάρξ flesh ετεραςG2087A-GSF ἕτερος other προκεινταιG4295V-PNI-3P πρόκειμαι to lie before the view δειγμαG1164N-ASN δεῖγμα a specimen πυροςG4442N-GSN πῦρ fire αιωνιουG166A-GSN αἰώνιος perpetual δικηνG1349N-ASF δίκη right υπεχουσαιG5254V-PAP-NPF ὑπέχω to hold oneself under 

Jud_1:8  ομοιωςG3668ADV ὁμοίως similarly μεντοιG3305CONJ μέντοι indeed though καιG2532CONJ καί and ουτοιG3778D-NPM οὗτος the he ενυπνιαζομενοιG1797V-PNP-NPM ἐνυπνιάζομαι to dream σαρκαG4561N-ASF σάρξ flesh μενG3303PRT μέν in fact μιαινουσινG3392V-PAI-3P μιαίνω to sully κυριοτηταG2963N-ASF κυριότης mastery δεG1161CONJ δέ but αθετουσινG114V-PAI-3P ἀθετέω to set aside δοξαςG1391N-APF δόξα glory δεG1161CONJ δέ but βλασφημουσινG987V-PAI-3P βλασφημέω to vilify 

Jud_1:9  οG3588T-NSM  the δεG1161CONJ δέ but μιχαηλG3413N-PRI Μιχαήλ Michael οG3588T-NSM  the αρχαγγελοςG743N-NSM ἀρχάγγελος a chief angel οτεG3753ADV ὅτε at which too τωG3588T-DSM  the διαβολωG1228A-DSM διάβολος a traducer διακρινομενοςG1252V-PMP-NSM διακρίνω to separate thoroughly διελεγετοG1256V-INI-3S διαλέγομαι to say thoroughly περιG4012PREP περί through τουG3588T-GSM  the μωυσεωςG3475N-GSM Μωσεύς Moseus να [μωσεωςG3475N-GSM Μωσεύς Moseus] τσβ σωματοςG4983N-GSN σῶμα the body ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not ετολμησενG5111V-AAI-3S τολμάω to venture κρισινG2920N-ASF κρίσις decision επενεγκεινG2018V-2AAN ἐπιφέρω to bear upon βλασφημιαςG988N-GSF βλασφημία vilification αλλαG235CONJ ἀλλά other things να [αλλG235CONJ ἀλλά other things] τσβ ειπενG2036V-2AAI-3S ἔπω to speak επιτιμησαιG2008V-AAO-3S ἐπιτιμάω to tax upon σοιG4671P-2DS σύ to thee κυριοςG2962N-NSM κύριος lord 

Jud_1:10  ουτοιG3778D-NPM οὗτος the he δεG1161CONJ δέ but οσαG3745K-APN ὅσος as as μενG3303PRT μέν in fact ουκG3756PRT-N οὐ no, not οιδασινG1492V-RAI-3P οἶδα to see βλασφημουσινG987V-PAI-3P βλασφημέω to vilify οσαG3745K-APN ὅσος as as δεG1161CONJ δέ but φυσικωςG5447ADV φυσικῶς physically ωςG5613ADV ὡς which how ταG3588T-NPN  the αλογαG249A-NPN ἄλογος irrational ζωαG2226N-NPN ζῶον a live thing επιστανταιG1987V-PNI-3P ἐπίσταμαι to put the mind upon ενG1722PREP ἔν in τουτοιςG5125D-DPN οὗτος to these φθειρονταιG5351V-PPI-3P φθείρω to shrivel

 

Ephesians 6 – The Armor of God

Other date(s) (~2009 or so); 4/8/18 (enhanced: Greek added, etc. & partly presented); 4/9/18

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Compare

·        Internal vs External Warfare

·        2nd Corinthians 10 – WeaponsOfOurWarfare

·        2Pe_2:10-12; Jud_1:6-10ReverenceArchRulers

 

Ephesians 6 Preceding context

instructions/admonitions/warnings given to children, fathers, slaves, & masters (Eph_6:1-9).

 

Ephesians 6 – CAB-Greek

Eph_6:10 CAB  Finally [TSBΤὸ TSBλοιπόν |Aτου Aλοιπου| (see: below)], TSBmy TSBbrothers, ·[you all 2P] be [being] strong [ἐνδυναμοῦσθεV-PPM-2Ppowerfully enabled (Present, Passive, iMperative), (same as v. 11)] in the Lord and in the power [κράτει – mightiness] of His might [ἰσχύος – strength].

Eph_6:10  TSBΤὸT-ASN |AτουT-GSN| TSBλοιπόνA-ASN |AλοιπουA-GSN|, TSBἀδελφοί TSBμου, ἐνδυναμοῦσθε ἐν Κυρίῳ καὶ ἐν τῷ κράτει τῆς ἰσχύος αὐτοῦ.

Eph_6:10  Aτου Aλοιπου TSBτο TSBλοιπον TSBαδελφοι TSBμου ενδυναμουσθε εν κυριω και εν τω κρατει της ισχυος αυτου

Eph_6:11 Put on the full armor [πανοπλίαν 1] of [the] God, ·so [πρὸς – toward] ·that you may be [powerfully (same as v. 10)] able [τὸ δύνασθαι ὑμᾶς] to stand ·against [πρὸς – toward] the stratagems [μεθοδείας] of the devil [διαβόλου – thorough accusation thrower].

[(1) πανοπλίαν = πᾶς (all) + ὅπλον (“an implement or utensil or tool (…especially offensive for war)”*) < (“Probably”) ἕπω (“to be busy about”*); *Strong’s on G3696; ὅπλον = same root as 2Co_10:4 (the “weapons” of our warfare), 2Co_6:7, and Rom_13:12]

Eph_6:11  ἐνδύσασθε τὴν πανοπλίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ πρὸς τὸ δύνασθαι ὑμᾶς στῆναι πρὸς τὰς μεθοδείας τοῦ διαβόλου·

Eph_6:12 For ·we wrestle [ἡμῖν ἡ πάλη (vibrate/wrestle)] not ·against [πρὸς] ·flesh and blood [αἷμα καὶ σάρκα], but [ἀλλὰ] against [πρὸς] principalities [τὰς ἀρχάς], against [πρὸς] ·[the] powers [τὰς ἐξουσίας – those bring-out-into-being-ers / authorities ], against [πρὸς] ·the [mighty-(arranged)-world] rulers of the darkness [τοὺς κοσμοκράτορας τοῦ σκότους] ·TSBof TSBthis TSBage [TSBτοῦ TSBαἰῶνος], against [πρὸς] [the (τὰ)] ·spiritual forces of [perverted] evil [πνευματικὰ τῆς πονηρίας] in the heavenlies.

Eph_6:12  ὅτι οὐκ ἔστιν ἡμῖν ἡ πάλη πρὸς αἷμα καὶ σάρκα, ἀλλὰ πρὸς τὰς ἀρχάς, πρὸς τὰς ἐξουσίας, πρὸς τοὺς κοσμοκράτορας τοῦ σκότους TSBτοῦ TSBαἰῶνος τούτου, πρὸς τὰ πνευματικὰ τῆς πονηρίας ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις.

Eph_6:13 Because of this, take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having accomplished all things, to stand.

Eph_6:13  διὰ τοῦτο ἀναλάβετε τὴν πανοπλίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἵνα δυνηθῆτε ἀντιστῆναι ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ πονηρᾷ καὶ ἅπαντα κατεργασάμενοι στῆναι.

Eph_6:14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,

Eph_6:14  στῆτε οὖν περιζωσάμενοι τὴν ὀσφὺν ὑμῶν ἐν ἀληθείᾳ, καὶ ἐνδυσάμενοι τὸν θώρακα τῆς δικαιοσύνης,

Eph_6:15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Eph_6:15  καὶ ὑποδησάμενοι τοὺς πόδας ἐν ἑτοιμασίᾳ τοῦ εὐαγγελίου τῆς εἰρήνης,

Eph_6:16 TSBabove [TSBἐπὶ |Aεν| – TSBupon/Ain] all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the [TSBτὰ |Aτα (questioned)|] ·flaming arrows [πεπυρωμένα] of the evil one.

Eph_6:16  TSBἐπὶ |Aεν| πᾶσιν ἀναλαβόντες τὸν θυρεὸν τῆς πίστεως, ἐν ᾧ δυνήσεσθε πάντα τὰ βέλη τοῦ πονηροῦ TSBτὰ |Aτα (questioned)| πεπυρωμένα σβέσαι·

Eph_6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

Eph_6:17  καὶ τὴν περικεφαλαίαν τοῦ σωτηρίου TSAδέξασθε |Bδεξασθαι|, καὶ τὴν μάχαιραν τοῦ Πνεύματος, ὅ ἐστιν ῥῆμα Θεοῦ.

Eph_6:18 through every prayer and petition, praying in every season in the Spirit, being watchful to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints--

Eph_6:18  διὰ πάσης προσευχῆς καὶ δεήσεως, προσευχόμενοι ἐν παντὶ καιρῷ ἐν Πνεύματι, καὶ εἰς αὐτὸ TSBτοῦτο ἀγρυπνοῦντες ἐν πάσῃ προσκαρτερήσει καὶ δεήσει περὶ πάντων τῶν ἁγίων,

Eph_6:19 and for me, that utterance may be given unto me, in the opening of my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Eph_6:19  καὶ ὑπὲρ ἐμοῦ, ἵνα μοι BAδοθῇ |TSδοθειη| λόγος ἐν ἀνοίξει τοῦ στόματός μου, ἐν παρρησίᾳ γνωρίσαι τὸ μυστήριον τοῦ εὐαγγελίου,

>> Eph_6 -- quoted/cited elsewhere herein

 

Eph_6:10-18 EMTV  Finally, my brothers, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.  11  Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the stratagems of the devil.  12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies.  13  Because of this, take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having accomplished all things, to stand.  14  Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,  15  and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;  16  above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one.  17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;  18  through every prayer and petition, praying in every season in the Spirit, being watchful to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints--

 

Compare: Be like courageous soldiers: Eph_6:13-17, 1Ti_6:12, 2Ti_2:3-5 {2Ti_2:1 - strong in favor}, 2Ti_4:7, Heb_11:32-34 (from WkEth Bible study)

>> more refinement /\

>> should this be recompiled into SPI????

 

2Ti_2:1 CAB  You therefore, my child [τέκνον], be empowered [ἐνδυναμοῦ] by [ἐν] the grace [χάριτι] which is in Christ [Χριστῷ] Jesus.

2Ti_2:1  Σὺ οὖν, τέκνον μου, ἐνδυναμοῦ ἐν τῇ χάριτι τῇ ἐν Χριστῷ ᾿Ιησοῦ,

2Ti_2:2 And the things which you have heard from me through many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be competent to teach others also.

2Ti_2:2  καὶ ἃ ἤκουσας παρ᾿ ἐμοῦ διὰ πολλῶν μαρτύρων, ταῦτα παράθου πιστοῖς ἀνθρώποις, οἵτινες ἱκανοὶ ἔσονται καὶ ἑτέρους διδάξαι.

2Ti_2:3 You therefore endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

2Ti_2:3  σὺ οὖν κακοπάθησον ὡς καλὸς στρατιώτης ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ.

 

Various Authorities

Heb_11:3 - the invisible made the visible

Neh_9:6 - God made it all

Col_1:15-16 - Jesus (i.e. God) made it all

2Pe_2:10 - reverence it (see: previously quoted)

Col_2:15 -  disarmed!

Eph_1:19-23 - above all authority...unto the Assembly (comp Php_2:)

Eph_3:9-12 - communicating superiority to the Spiritual realm!

1Pe_3:22 - current victory

1Co_15:24 - Ultimate Victory

 

2Co_10:3-5 - Weapons Of Our Warfare

Rev_12:3-9 - war in heaven

 

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1/8/04 (original title: Demonology); 4/1/04; 3/4/17 (recompiled)

 

4 Classes of Evil Spirits

Eph_6:12 KJV-Based  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against4314 principalities,746 against powers,1849 against the rulers2888 of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.

(see: ArmorofGod)

 

against4314 G4314 πρός pros pros

A strengthened form of G4253; a preposition of direction; forward to, that is, toward (with the genitive case the side of, that is, pertaining to; with the dative case by the side of, that is, near to; usually with the accusative case the place, time, occasion, or respect, which is the destination of the relation, that is, whither or for which it is predicated): - about, according to, against, among, at, because of, before, between, ([where-]) by, for, X at thy house, in, for intent, nigh unto, of, which pertain to, that, to (the end that), + together, to ([you]) -ward, unto, with (-in). In compounds it denotes essentially the same applications, namely, motion towards, accession to, or nearness at.

 

Principalities746 G746 ἀρχή archē ar-khay'

From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.

 

powers1849 G1849 ἐξουσία exousia ex-oo-see'-ah

From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.

 

rulers2888 G2888 κοσμοκράτωρ kosmokratōr kos-mok-rat'-ore

From G2889 and G2902; a world ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.

 

Principalities?:

Dan_10:13 (“Prince of Persia”) & 20 (“Persia/ Greece”)

Michael only good prince? V 21

Dan_12:1 “Prince of Israel”

 

Linked with “powers”?:

Rom_8:38  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities,746 nor powers,1411 [Not the same word] nor things present, nor things to come…

 

powers1411 G1411 δύναμις dunamis doo'-nam-is

From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself): - ability, abundance, meaning, might (-ily, -y, -y deed), (worker of) miracle (-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.

 

Eph_3:10 KJV  To the intent that now unto the principalities746 and powers1849 in heavenly2032 places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God

 

Col_1:16 KJV For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones,2362 or dominions,2963 or principalities,746 or powers:1849

 

Col_2:15 KJV-Based  And having spoiled principalities746 and powers,1849 he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

 

More:

Act_23:8  For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

9 …but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.

 

 

think: “Disembodied” Vs Heavenly Bodies

1Co_15:40-44 LITV  And there are heavenly bodies, and earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly is truly different, and that of the earthly different;  41  one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.  42  So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.  43  It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.  44  It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body; there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Devil Tries to dig Under us and Undermine Us

2/21/17

 

ES Search:

kataskáptō (G2679)

 

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Defining Demons

 

Bible

 

Isa_65:11 CAB  But you are they that have left Me, and forget My holy mountain, and prepare a table for the devil [δαίμονι], and fill up the drink offering to Fortune [τύχῃ].

 

Deu_32:16-18 CAB  They provoked Me to anger with strange [gods] [ἀλλοτρίοις]; with their abominations they bitterly angered Me.  17  They sacrificed to demons [δαιμονίοις], and not to God [θεῷ]; to gods [θεοῖς] whom they knew not: new and fresh gods came in, whom their fathers knew not.  18  You have forsaken God that begot you, and forgotten God who feeds you.

 

Psa_96:3-5 CAB  Proclaim His glory among the Gentiles, His wonderful works among all people.  4  For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised; He is to be feared above all gods [τοὺς θεούς].  5  For all the gods [οἱ θεοὶ] of the heathen are demons [LXX: δαιμόνια; MT: idols H457]; but the Lord made the heavens.

 

Psa_106:35-37 CAB  but were mingled with the heathen, and learned their works.  36  And they served their graven images; and it *became an offense [* εἰς σκάνδαλον] to them.  37  And they sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons [δαιμονίοις],

 

Act_17:22 WEB  Paul stood in the middle of the Areopagus, and said, "You men of Athens, I perceive that you are very religious [δεισιδαιμονεστέρους] in all things.

 

Act_25:19 WEB  but had certain questions against him about their own religion [δεισιδαιμονίας], and about one Jesus, who was dead, whom Paul affirmed to be alive.

 

1Co_8:5-6 CAB  For even if they are being called "gods" whether in heaven or on earth (just as there are many gods [θεοὶ πολλοὶ] and many lords [κύριοι πολλοί]),  6  yet for us there is one God [εἷς Θεὸς], the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

 

1Co_10:19-21 CAB  What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?  20  No, but that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons [δαιμονίοις] and not to God [Θεῷ], and I do not desire that you should *have fellowship with demons [* κοινωνοὺς τῶν δαιμονίων γίνεσθαι].  21  You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons [δαιμονίων]; you cannot partake of the Lord's table and of the table of demons [δαιμονίων].

 

(also 1Co_12:2)

 

2Co_11:2-4 CAB  For I am jealous [ζηλῶ] over you with godly jealousy [Θεοῦ ζήλῳ], for I have betrothed you to one husband [ἑνὶ ἀνδρὶ], to present you as a pure virgin [παρθένον ἁγνὴν] to Christ.  3  But I fear, lest perhaps as the serpent deceived [ἐξηπάτησεν] Eve by his craftiness [πανουργίᾳ], so your minds [νοήματα] may be corrupted from the simplicity [ἁπλότητος – untwisted-together-ness] that is in Christ.  4  For if [εἰ μὲν] he who comes to you preaches another Jesus whom we did not preach, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you did not accept, you may well put up with him!

 

Socrates / Sokrates

 

http://www.unco.edu/philosophy/arg.html

http://daemonpage.com/socrates-daimon.php

 

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...if we read the whole Apology and some of Plato’s other dialogues-we learn that Sokrates often speaks of this “daimon,” or “guardian spirit,” and says of it just what he says right here: that it always warned him against saying or doing anything that wouldn’t be good-anything “not right”...

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Sokrates is, in effect, simply asking the people he’s talking to (and that means, in effect, us too) to take his word for it that he was literally blessed with a remarkable sort of eudaimonia.*

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9.         “Eudaimonia” is the ordinary Greek word for happiness, but literally it means “having a good daimon,” and if taken literally-as Sokrates asks his supporters on the jury to take it-it’s a word that would have struck most of them as having the same sort of oddly superstitious quality to it that the phrase “born under a lucky star” would, if taken literally, strike most of us as having today. [Back]

10.       Consequentialism in ethics is simply the view that what makes actions ethically right or wrong is the goodness or badness of their consequences.

 

Strong’s

 

The root word for a demon is:

G1142 da??µ?? daimo?n dah’ee-mown

From da??? daio? (to distribute fortunes); a demon or super natural spirit (of a bad nature): - devil.

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OT: 1 time- Isa 65:11 (LXX)

NT: 5 times- Mat. 8:31; Mark 5:12; Luke 8:29; Rev. 16:14; 18:2

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G1140 da?µ?????? daimonion dahee-mon’-ee-on

Neuter of a derivative of G1142; a daemonic being; by extension a deity: - devil, god.

 

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OT: 7 times- Deu. 32:17; Psa. 91:6; 96:5; 106:37; Isa. 13:21; 34:14; 65:3; [see explinations below...]

NT: 52

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Deu. 32:17 (“demons7700”); Psa. 91:6; (“destruction4480”) 96:5 (“gods430” i.e.: “’e?lo?hi?ym” > “da?µ???a”); 106:37 (“demons7700”); Isa. 13:21 (wild goats8163 Strong includes “Devil” from Heb.); 34:14 (<same); 65:3 (see below);

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Isa 65:3 KJV  A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

But LXX says “...they offer sacrifices in gardens, and burn incense on bricks to devils, [da?µ?????? 1140] which exist not...”

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            > A Hebrew Equivelant is…

H7700 ??? she?d shade

From H7736; a daemon (as malignant): - devil.

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H7736 ????? shu?d shood

A primitive root; properly to swell up, that is, figuratively (by implication of insolence) to devastate: - waste.

 

The “fortune” aspect of the root for demon (G1142) is directly present only in the Old testament (LXX) passage that uses this word:

Isa 65:11 WEB  But you who forsake Yahweh, who forget my holy mountain, who prepare a table for Fortune,1408 [LXX: da?µ??? 1142] and who fill up mixed wine to Destiny4507;[LXX: ?e?asµa?? - w/ no Strong’s num. assigned]

/\ WEB reflects the same “fortune” aspect that the LXX does, but the KJV is hard to incorperate in this…\/

Isa 65:11 KJV  But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop,1408 and that furnish the drink offering unto that number4507.

LXX translated says, “11 But ye are they that have left me, and forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table for the devil, and fill up the drink-offering to Fortune.”

Whereas the Hebrew is clearly relating to the LXX this time:

H1408 ??? gad gad

A variation of H1409; Fortune, a Babylonian deity: - that troop.

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H4507 ??? meni?y men-ee’

From H4487; the Apportioner, that is, Fate (as an idol): - number.

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Derived from:

H1409 ??? ga?d gawd

From H1464 (in the sense of distributing); fortune: - troop.

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H1464 ????? gu?d goode

A primitive root (akin to H1413); to crowd upon, that is, attack: - invade, overcome.

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H4487 ??? ma?na?h maw-naw’

A primitive root; properly to weigh out; by implication to allot or constitute officially; also to enumerate or enroll: - appoint, count, number, prepare, set, tell.

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Note: English Translations from the LXX are the: “Septuagint as originally translated by Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton and was first published in London in 1851.”

 

 

Tormented vs. Demonized

Tormented vs. Possessed

Other dates(s) (mostly ~2009-2012); 12/11/16; 3/1/24

Go back to: Resist | Breathing Events

 

 

Explanation

People can often get really confused when you start talking about spiritual warfare, and it can get so bad to the point that they think you are talking about “casting out a demon” every time you resist a demonic temptation. But this is not the case at all.

    The Bible does make a distinction between being tormented and being possessed. It is only reasonable from this that we also treat these two different cases as two different types of fights, especially when seeking the freedom for each demonically attacked person in question.

    In addition to these common confusions, there are many other misunderstandings concerning how to treat a person when and if they are actually completely possessed.

 

Here are some verses that we can use to help us see some distinctions that God makes in the Bible for us to use when doing spiritual warfare:

 

Some demons came out with a shriek -- fully demonized

·        Lunatic son

·        Etc.

 

Others influenced people without/before demonizing them / fully breaching them

·        1Ch_21:1 – Satan persuaded/motivated [LXX: ἐπέσεισεν – stirred up (ABP)] David to take a census

·        Spirit of jealousy: Num_5:14, Num_5:30; (TSK: Pro_6:34; Son_8:6; Zep_3:8; 1Co_10:22) -- not always bad!

·        Jesus to Peter: Get behind me Satan

·        The devil [τοῦ διαβόλου]/satan had already put it into the heart of Judas: Joh_13:2

·        Satan [ὁ Σατανᾶς] enters Judas (after receiving a piece of bread from Jesus): Joh_13:27; Luk_22:3

 

>>Scrip: (check)

Others Were Variously Oppressed with No Incrimination at All

·        Gen_37:34-36 – Jacob sorrowed for many years for Joseph who seemed dead -- and played an immense divine parable of the Father!

·        Luk_13:10-17 – Woman was bent over by satan many years

·        Mar_8:10-13 – Jesus sighed after finding refuge from (shallow) unworthy unbelievers

>>TSK

 

 

Notice the different levels of interaction with the devil ‘putting things in people’s hearts’ vs. ‘entering’ them.

 

Righteously Hurting from Temptation

2Pe_2:7 CAB  and He rescued righteous [δίκαιον] Lot, who was oppressed [καταπονούμενον] by the indecent conduct of lawless men [ὑπὸ τῆς τῶν ἀθέσμων ἐν ἀσελγείᾳ ἀναστροφῆς]

2Pe_2:7  καὶ δίκαιον Λὼτ καταπονούμενον ὑπὸ τῆς τῶν ἀθέσμων ἐν ἀσελγείᾳ ἀναστροφῆς ἐρρύσατο·

2Pe_2:8 (for that righteous man [ὁ δίκαιος], living among them day after day, tormented [ἐβασάνιζεν] his righteous soul [ψυχὴν δικαίαν] by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds [ἀνόμοις ἔργοις])--

2Pe_2:8  βλέμματι γὰρ καὶ ἀκοῇ ὁ δίκαιος, ἐγκατοικῶν ἐν αὐτοῖς, ἡμέραν ἐξ ἡμέρας ψυχὴν δικαίαν ἀνόμοις ἔργοις ἐβασάνιζεν·

2Pe_2:9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptation and how to keep the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,

2Pe_2:9  οἶδε Κύριος εὐσεβεῖς ἐκ πειρασμοῦ ῥύεσθαι, ἀδίκους δὲ εἰς ἡμέραν κρίσεως κολαζομένους τηρεῖν,

>> Interestingly enough, the people literally, physically paralleled this by mobbing in front of his door (as the Gospels describe demonic tormentation)…

 

Second Peter Summary

·        2Pe_2:7Lot in Sodom (καταπονουμενονG2669) painfully toiled down*

·        2Pe_2:8tormented [ἐβασάνιζεν] G928 (βασανίζω – torcher) < G931(βάσανος – “base” torcher stone)

 

* This Greek terminology speaks of being “laboriously worn down” by “painful toil” due to being around dis-arrangement / fig. ungodliness.

 

 

Heb_11:36 CAB  Still others took a trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and of prison.

Heb_11:36  ἕτεροι δὲ ἐμπαιγμῶν καὶ μαστίγων πεῖραν ἔλαβον, ἔτι δὲ δεσμῶν καὶ φυλακῆς·

Heb_11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tried, they were slain, being murdered with the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, being in want, being afflicted, being ill treated,

Heb_11:37  ἐλιθάσθησαν, ἐπρίσθησαν, ἐπειράσθησαν, ἐν φόνῳ μαχαίρας ἀπέθανον, περιῆλθον ἐν μηλωταῖς, ἐν αἰγείοις δέρμασιν, ὑστερούμενοι, θλιβόμενοι, κακουχούμενοι,

Heb_11:38 of whom the world was not worthy, wandering in deserts and mountains and caves, and the holes of the earth.

Heb_11:38  ὧν οὐκ ἦν ἄξιος ὁ κόσμος, ἐν ἐρημίαις πλανώμενοι καὶ ὄρεσι καὶ σπηλαίοις καὶ ταῖς ὀπαῖς τῆς γῆς.

 

Tormented

Other dates (as seen in the main title); 12/11/16

 

Luk_6:17 CAB  And having come down with them, He stood on a level place, with a crowd of His disciples and a great multitude of people from all Judea and Jerusalem, and from the seacoast of Tyre and Sidon, who came to hear Him and be healed of their diseases,

Luk_6:17  καὶ καταβὰς μετ᾿ αὐτῶν ἔστη ἐπὶ τόπου πεδινοῦ, καὶ ὄχλος μαθητῶν αὐτοῦ, καὶ πλῆθος πολὺ τοῦ λαοῦ ἀπὸ πάσης τῆς ᾿Ιουδαίας καὶ ᾿Ιερουσαλὴμ καὶ τῆς παραλίου Τύρου καὶ Σιδῶνος,

Luk_6:18  a  οἳ ἦλθον ἀκοῦσαι αὐτοῦ καὶ ἰαθῆναι ἀπὸ τῶν νόσων αὐτῶν…

Luk_6:18 as well as those who were tormented [TSBοχλούμενοιG3791 / AἐνοχλούμενοιG1776] by [TSBυπο Aαπο]  unclean spirits [πνευμάτων ἀκαθάρτων], and they were being healed [καὶ ἐθεραπεύοντο].

Luk_6:18 b …καὶ οἱ TSBοχλούμενοιG3791 [AἐνοχλούμενοιG1776] ἀπὸ [TSBυπο Aαπο] πνευμάτων ἀκαθάρτων, καὶ ἐθεραπεύοντο·

 

Act_5:15  CAB   so that they were bringing the sick and placing them on couches and pallets, so that as Peter was passing, at least his shadow might overshadow some of them.

Act_5:15  ὥστε κατὰ τὰς πλατείας ἐκφέρειν τοὺς ἀσθενεῖς καὶ τιθέναι ἐπὶ κλινῶν καὶ κραβάττων, ἵνα ἐρχομένου Πέτρου κἂν ἡ σκιὰ ἐπισκιάσῃ τινὶ αὐτῶν.

Act_5:16  And also the multitude from the surrounding cities were coming together into Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those who were tormented [ὀχλουμένους] by unclean spirits [ὑπὸ πνευμάτων ἀκαθάρτων], who were all being healed.

Act_5:16  συνήρχετο δὲ καὶ τὸ πλῆθος τῶν πέριξ πόλεων TSBεἰς ῾Ιερουσαλήμ φέροντες ἀσθενεῖς καὶ ὀχλουμένους ὑπὸ πνευμάτων ἀκαθάρτων, οἵτινες ἐθεραπεύοντο ἅπαντες.

 

Summary of Luke 6 & Acts 5

·        Luk_6:18 - tormented (TSBοχλούμενοιG3791 / AἐνοχλούμενοιG1776) by unclean spirits

·        Act_5:16 - tormented (οχλουμενουςG3791) by unclean spirits

 

The above word used for “tormented,” [ἐνοχλούμενοι / οχλουμενους (ochloumenos)] means this in the sense of being mobbed, or, being jumped and overwhelmed by a crowd, especially seeing that even the primary root for this word means “crowd” (ὀχλέω - ochléō, as in Strong’s G3793: ὄχλος - óchlos, crowd).

 

Tortured somewhat Distinguished from Demonized

 

Matthew 4 – Being Demonized is distinguished from be tormented

Mat_4:23 CAB  And Jesus went about all of Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every disease and every illness among the people.

Mat_4:23  Καὶ περιῆγεν ὅλην τὴν Γαλιλαίαν ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς διδάσκων ἐν ταῖς συναγωγαῖς αὐτῶν καὶ κηρύσσων τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τῆς βασιλείας καὶ θεραπεύων πᾶσαν νόσον καὶ πᾶσαν μαλακίαν ἐν τῷ λαῷ.

Mat_4:24 And the report of Him went throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all those were ill [κακῶς], suffering with various diseases [ἔχοντας ποικίλαις νόσοις] and ·[griping/holding-together] torments [βασάνοις συνεχομένους (comp. Luk_8:37)], and those who were demon-possessed [δαιμονιζομένους], epileptics [σεληνιαζομένους], and paralytics [παραλυτικούς]; and He healed them.

Mat_4:24  καὶ ἀπῆλθεν ἡ ἀκοὴ αὐτοῦ εἰς ὅλην τὴν Συρίαν, καὶ προσήνεγκαν αὐτῷ πάντας τοὺς κακῶς ἔχοντας ποικίλαις νόσοις καὶ βασάνοις συνεχομένους, καὶ δαιμονιζομένους καὶ σεληνιαζομένους καὶ παραλυτικούς, καὶ ἐθεράπευσεν αὐτούς·

 

Luk_8:36 CAB  And those also who saw reported to them how the demon-possessed [δαιμονισθείς] man was healed.

Luk_8:36  ἀπήγγειλαν δὲ αὐτοῖς οἱ ἰδόντες πῶς ἐσώθη ὁ δαιμονισθείς.

Luk_8:37 Then the whole multitude from the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to go away from them, because they were gripped [συνείχοντο (comp. Mat_4:24)] with great fear [φόβῳ μεγάλῳ]. And He got into the boat and returned.

Luk_8:37  καὶ ἠρώτησεν αὐτὸν ἅπαν τὸ πλῆθος τῆς περιχώρου τῶν Γαδαρηνῶν ἀπελθεῖν ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν, ὅτι φόβῳ μεγάλῳ συνείχοντο. αὐτὸς δὲ ἐμβὰς εἰς πλοῖον ὑπέστρεψεν.

 

(A) Demonized (by demons)

δαιμονιζομενουςG1139 - (same word as discussed again below)

 

Luk_8:36 - This word is used to describe the man possessed by the legion of demons

 

(B) Tortured (by demons)

συνεχομενουςG4912 - to hold / press together or “pressure”, or, figuratively, to torture.

 

This “torture” word, as used in Mat_4:24 above, is also used for the influence upon the people after the demons of the demoniac were cast out:

 

Luk_8:37 - these people gave into their fear – “torture”/ pressure

 

Though these people were not demonized the same way the demoniac was, they did give into the torment of fear since the daemons were still there, having been left over from being cast out of the demoniac.

 

Real Disciples Cannot be Possessed, but Can Be Tormented

We see from above that Lot was “Righteously Hurting” without any sin being attributed to him, as he lived among very wicked people, which certainly involved many demonic things on their behalf.  We can understand from this that there is no inherent sin on our part in the face of the on slot of wickedness against our souls. We too may be in a situation like righteous Lot.

    A summary of the Scriptures above (and many others throughout the Bible) can communicate to us that the next level of demonic attack is gaining a strong hold (2Co_10:4-5 – see: WeaponsOfOurWarfare) in a person’s soul and mind. In this condition, the victim is vulnerable to being “tormented by the unclean spirits,” whether they are a believer or an unbeliever. This is why Jesus said:

 

 

Joh_14:30 EMTV  …the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.

 

So also we must ‘pull down strong holds’ (2Co_10:4-5 – see: WeaponsOfOurWarfare), and resist the devil (Jas_4:7), lest his “painful” opposition to us becomes a condition of “mobbing torment.”

 

By the time a person gets so wickedly overrun from the unresisted opposition and unsound temptation from the devil (Joh_13:2), that they enter into possession (Joh_13:27), then they are considered “apostate” from the faith (Act_1:25) and disqualified as Jesus’ disciple, until and unless there may be repentance and freedom unto life.

 

Permanent Disciples Repent of Cooperating with Satan

If a disciple is under the pressure of demons, though not yet demonized, they can directly exhibit satan in different ways. But what must we do if we ever find ourselves in this case? We must repent quickly that our soul may be spared, so that we never enter into the demonization like Judas did!

 

Mar_8:32-33 WEB  He spoke to them openly. Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.  33  But he, turning around, and seeing his disciples, rebuked Peter, and said, "Get behind me, Satan! For you have in mind not the things of God, but the things of men."

 

We see here that Peter was rebuked after having given into the opposition put in his soul directly by satan, and that these very words of satan himself came out of Peter’s mouth, after having previously spoken directly from the Father (Mat_16:16-19). We also see it indirectly implied that Peter repented, in that he continued faithfully walking with Jesus after this, and we know from history that Mark’s Gospel is essentially that of Peter, which means that Mark heard the story we just read from Peter’s own preaching, and that in the end of his life Peter also faithfully obeyed Jesus unto the point of “taking up” his very own literal cross, which he had previously discouraged Jesus from taking in this passage above when speaking by the devil!

 

So even if we have serious issues, there is hope if we repent like Peter did. But if we do not quickly repent, then there is the very real and fearful possibility of ending up demonized:

 

Joh_12:4-8 WEB  Then Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, one of his disciples, who would betray him, said,  5  "Why wasn't this ointment sold for three hundred denarii, and given to the poor?"  6  Now he said this, not because he cared for the poor, but because he was a thief, and having the money box, used to steal what was put into it.  7  But Jesus said, "Leave her alone. She has kept this for the day of my burial.   8  For you always have the poor with you, but you don't always have me."

 

Mat_26:12-16 WEB  For in pouring this ointment on my body, she did it to prepare me for burial.   13  Most assuredly I tell you, wherever this gospel is preached in the whole world, what this woman has done will also be spoken of as a memorial of her."  14  Then one of the twelve, who was called Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests,  15  and said, "What are you willing to give me, that I should deliver him to you?" They weighed out for him thirty pieces of silver.  16  From that time he sought opportunity to betray him.

 

We see that Peter repented when he was rebuked for speaking from satan, but Judas hardened his heart and spurned the rebuke he received for his wickedness, and ended up fully demonized. Which destiny will we serve if we find ourselves in such faults?

 

Canaanite Woman’s Demonized Daughter

 

Mat_15:22 - Canaanite woman with terribly demonized daughter

terribly: "evil-ly": κακωςG2560 - kakos

demonized: δαιμονιζεταιG1139 - daimonízetai

 

Demonized, “Lunatic” Son

 

Mat_17:15 - Son called a “Lunatic”

 

Greek: σεληνιαζεταιG4583 (selēniazetai): “moon struck” – a term for something demonic (compare: Mat_17:18 below).

In English: "Lun-" in the word Lunatic” is the same stem as used in "Lunar" (pertaining to the moon). We can see that our English word originally retained the same “moon struck” idea, which those in Bible days, including Jesus Himself, understood and applied as something demonic:

 

Mat_17:18 - Jesus rebuked the spirit in the “Lunatic” calling it a “demon” (δαιμονιονG1140)

 

Mar_9:17 - Also called: “Having a spirit...” (lit. “having a spirit unspeaking”: χοντα πνεῦμα λαλον)

 

Mar_9:25 - ...that unclean spirit

(τω πνεύματι τω ἀκαθάρτῳͅG169)

 

Luk_9:39 - a spirit “takes” the son (λαμβανειG2983)

 

Luk_9:42 - called a “demon” (δαιμονιονG1140), and an “unclean spirit” (τω πνεύματι τω ἀκαθάρτῳͅG169)

 

Willing vs. Unwilling Demonization

Other dates; 4/11/17 (Lev_19:31 quoted); 4/15/17

Tags: Willing possession Willing Examples vs. Unwilling Examples Willing Demonization

 

Most of the examples mentioned above are cases where the victim was unwillingly demonized, but there are also a good number of examples of how to treat people much differently if they are willingly participating and cooperating in their demonization:

 

Lev_19:31 WEB  " 'Don't turn to those who are mediums, nor to the wizards. Don't seek them out, to be defiled by them. I am Yahweh your God.

Lev_19:31 LB  ‘You shall not attend to those who have in them divining spirits [ἐγγαστριμύθοις], nor attach yourselves to enchanters, to pollute yourselves with them: I am the Lord your God.

Lev_19:31  οὐκ ἐπακολουθήσετε ἐγγαστριμύθοις καὶ τοῖς ἐπαοιδοῖς οὐ προσκολληθήσεσθε ἐκμιανθῆναι ἐν αὐτοῖς· ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

 

 

Lev_19:31 – demonized people associated with / similar to wizards (i.e. wizards are people who are willingly demonized); Same affect, but one is willingly participating and the other may not be.

 

Lev_20:6 / Lev_20:27 – A man or woman with a divining/ familiar spirit, or a wizard (Heb.)/ charmer (Gr.)

 

Lev_20:27 WEB  " 'A man or a woman that is a medium, or is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones; their blood shall be upon them.' "

Lev_20:27 LB  “And as for a man or woman whosoever of them shall have in them a divining spirit, or be an enchanter, let them both die the death: you shall stone them with stones, they are guilty.”

Lev_20:27  Καὶ ἀνὴρ ἢ γυνή, ὃς ἂν γένηται αὐτῶν ἐγγαστρίμυθος ἢ ἐπαοιδός, θανάτῳ θανατούσθωσαν ἀμφότεροι· λίθοις λιθοβολήσατε αὐτούς, ἔνοχοί εἰσιν.

 

Exo_22:18, Deu_18:10-12, 1Sa_28:7-9

 

Greek: (1) With a spirit: εγγαστριμυθος

ἐνG1722 (en) + γαστρὶG1064 (gastri) + μῦθοςG3454 (muthos) =

In + Blowel-ed + Myth or fig.fortune” “teacher” (see: G3453), or, “Fortune Teller.”

These first two words (ἐνG1722 + γαστρὶG1064), if left alone, mean “pregnant.” In this case, the person is “pregnant” with a demon which lies about a person’s future.

 

(Compare: 1Sa_28:7-9; 1Ch_10:13-14; 2Ch_33:6; Isa_19:3-4)

 

So in the Old Testament, such people were killed, but though we do not kill people at all under the New Covenant, the same principals of opposition are applied:

 

Act_13:6-12 - Barjesus: willingly possessed

 

But the unwillingly demonized are set free:

 

Act_16:16-18 - Slave girl: unwillingly possessed

Girl said to “have a spirit” of “Python” (Πύθων - Púthōn;): “divination” or fortune-telling.

 

The Gaderine Demoniac was Unwillingly Demonized, But the People were Guilty

The Demoniac was healed, but the people were left in fear of the demons which were cast out!

 

The Full Story

Mat_8:30-34

Mar_5:1-20

Luk_8:26-39

 

Jesus would not completely drive out the legion from the region of the Gadarenes (or Gergesenes) (Mat_8:31-32; Mar_5:10, Mar_5:12-13; Luk_8:31, Luk_8:33) because the fearful people were clinging to the demons that tormented the previously possessed man (Mat_8:34; Mar_5:15-18 (compare Mar_5:21); Luk_8:35-37; (compare Luk_8:40))

 

>> Witch of Endor

 

Isa_29:4 WEB  You will be brought down, and will speak out of the ground. Your speech will mumble out of the dust. Your voice will be as of one who has a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and your speech will whisper out of the dust.

Isa_29:4 CAB  And your words shall be brought down to the earth, and your words shall sink down to the earth, and your voice shall be as they that speak out of the earth, and your voice shall be lowered to the ground.

Isa_29:4  καὶ ταπεινωθήσονται οἱ λόγοι σου εἰς τὴν γῆν, καὶ εἰς τὴν γῆν οἱ λόγοι σου δύσονται· καὶ ἔσται ὡς οἱ φωνοῦντες ἐκ τῆς γῆς ἡ φωνή σου, καὶ πρὸς τὸ ἔδαφος ἡ φωνή σου ἀσθενήσει.

 

 

>> Note: Jesus does not cast satan out of Judas or even out of Peter -- it is for them to repent and be cleared from satan

 

Summary of Willing vs. Unwilling Demonization

Do you see that they treated people differently from Deuteronomy to the book of Acts, depending on weather they were willingly or unwillingly demonized? If we pay attention and consider these things thoroughly, we can see that there is some definite sense where Moses, The Apostles, and a number of cases in-between, treated some “possessions” differently than others.

 

Age Insanity

 

Sir_3:12-16 Brenton  My son, help thy father in his age, and grieve him not as long as he liveth.  13  And if his understanding fail, have patience with him; and despise him not when thou art in thy full strength.  14  For the relieving of thy father shall not be forgotten: and instead of sins it shall be added to build thee up.  15  In the day of thine affliction it shall be remembered; thy sins also shall melt away, as the ice in the fair warm weather.  16  He that forsaketh his father is as a blasphemer; and he that angereth his mother is cursed: of God.

 

Sir_3:24-26 Brenton  For many are deceived by their own vain opinion; and an evil suspicion hath overthrown their judgment.  25  Without eyes thou shalt want light: profess not the knowledge therefore that thou hast not.  26  A stubborn heart shall fare evil at the last; and he that loveth danger shall perish therein.

 

Sir_3:24-26 NETS

24

For their presumption has led many astray,

and their evil fancy has diminished their

understanding.

[25

If you have no pupils, you will be at a loss for

light,]

[and when you want for knowledge, do not

profess it.]

26

A hard heart will fare badly at the end,

and he who loves danger will perish in it.

 

A Call to Fight

There are countless reasons that we should do spiritual warfare, but below I would like to give a general challenge toward all of these things, temporarily making special use of the temptation of fear as a primary example of all the demons that we must fight.

 

Repent, Follow Jesus, Do Warfare

In light of the Scriptures given above I would like to exhort the readers to consider the challenge given to us to step out into the extreme walk of following Jesus. This walk will definitely and necessarily take you into the spiritual realm, interacting with spiritual and supernatural things that you never imagined!

This fight is not for the fearful, but for the redeemed who have decided to follow Him who is supremely courageous:

 

Rev_21:8  But the cowardly, and unbelieving, and sinners, and abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and drug users, and idolaters, and all who are false shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

 

If you have been unwilling in the past to follow and obey because of fear, now is the time to repent of fear and your previous ways of life, and take Jesus head on and believe Him to deliver you in the midst of these things.

 

A Few Saved From Sin

So many people experience so many problems, and all the more do we see this as our foolishness and sin increase in our world and in our churches, and as our sin increases, our social accommodations and sanctions for our sin also increase. We protect the things most that hurt and kill us the most. But out of all this mess, there are a few people who eagerly seek to resolve their guilt with God by repentance, and fight and stand for truth, committing their whole life to obey the extreme mandates of Jesus.

 

Still Demons, Still Temptation to give into Pressure

For those who come to Jesus, there is still the reality that they often face many problems and conflicts with living, and they struggle to guide their life in a way that is consistent with one who follows Jesus. Now what is a real Christian to do after they have met the extreme call to forsake all to follow Jesus, when they afterward feel themselves pressured and tormented by internal conflict that seems to slavishly compulse them toward unbelief and even disobedience? This is where Spiritual warfare comes in.

 

Commitment

Among the very first resolutions and commitments needed when facing such ailments, to resist the attacks opposed toward us, is the basic need and resolution to consider such oppositions as spiritual fights, not physical ones. As I have told so many in these cases, you have to commit to never resort to physical means again to sooth spiritual problems. (This includes Anti-depressants, TV, music, other “winding down for the day” entertainments, food, other physical “alternative” means, and all other counterfeits). Such problems are spiritual, and they need to be treated that way. If you treat them as physical, then you basically have no hope of standing in the end when all is said and done.

 

Counterfeits

Inasmuch as any person ever goes unto a counterfeit to solve their spiritual problems, to this same degree they always forfeit the true.  It is certainly true that God is merciful and pities us in our ignorance when we do not realize what we’re doing, but we know that upon the reception of the knowledge of truth, we are all the more held accountable to fight what we previously indulged in, and accepted in our ignorance.

 

“But I’m Just Sick” or “Stressed” or “I have Psychological Disorders”

Who is the author of fear?  It is the same one who authored doubt. Such things weary us unto sin if we give in. But there is no sickness or condition that is morally neutral, which also compulses us toward sinning. And while we humans are prone to go about sinning and being tempted with sin, we absurdly are also prone to go about trying to diagnose such things as Physiological or Psychological problems.  We sin and become slaves of sin, and we become so deluded that we deny the personal evil we serve every day!

 

But the Scriptures are definite on this matter:

 

2Ti_1:7 EMTV  For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

 

Did you notice that God calls it a “spirit”?  We have no right to call it or treat it as anything else. I hope you know very well that there are many Scriptures to this effect; fear does not come about apart from Satan and his angels, since he authored it and they are the promoters of it.  If fear comes, the Bible calls it a demon and so should we.

 

Distinguish and Fight Fear Temptation

I hope that it’s clear from this that I would like to distinguish falling into sin sharply with being tempted and opposed by sin.  In the case of fear and anxiety attacks, I know very personally the feelings of attack that many face.  I also know that a person can resist such attacks with all the strength that they have, and still be overwhelmed and over flooded to the point of helpless despair.  I do not describe these attacks as “sin,” because it is the evil attacking a person which is evil, not the broken victim.  But such attacks from the evil will be our own evil if we give into them, if we accommodate them, if we agree with them, if we do not resist them. We ought not to welcome, help and own the evil who presents himself to us, but we ought to fight him.

    If we pamper such attacks with physical remedies we are agreeing with the lie that opposes us, as though a personal evil were not actually pressuring us to an evil belief. When we fear and describe it as a physiological or psychological condition, then we justify the devil who temps us as though he were not sinful in his work.  What kind of agreement is this that we are making?  Is this not wrong?  Does this not shoot ourselves in the foot by not holding him guilty who seeks our life?

 

A Return to Redeemed Anger

Perhaps in your lifetime you are familiar with what it means to be angry at a human and to lift ones voice to its height in rage against them.  In most every case like this, this is a great evil, and a perversion of right things.  But what are those right things which it perverts?  Because a perversion can never be stronger or more profound than the right thing that it is twisting, since darkness can never overcome light (Joh_1:5).

    The rage of (vocal) anger against a human being is the perversion of what we ought to be doing instead when it comes to the devil.  Do you remember that Jesus dealt vocally with the devil when He was tempted in the wilderness (Mat_4:1-11)?  He did not “pray” in His heart against Satan when He was attacked, but as Satan spoke to Him in whatever form the temptations came, Jesus responded to this verbally with great might and authority from the Scriptures.

 

Mat_4:10 EMTV  Then Jesus said to him [the devil], "Get behind Me, Satan!...

 

Mar_8:33 EMTV But when He had turned and saw His disciples, He rebuked Peter...

 

Mat_16:23 EMTV ...and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block unto Me, because you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

 

Mar_1:24-25 WEB …"Ha! What do we have to do with you, Jesus, you Nazarene? Have you come to destroy us? I know you who you are: the Holy One of God!"  25  Jesus rebuked him, saying, "Be quiet, and come out of him!"

 

(Also see other examples of Jesus’ strictness with demons: Mar_1:34, Mar_3:11-12, Mar_9:25; Luk_4:35, Luk_4:41)

 

Mar_1:27  Then they were all amazed, so that they were disputing among themselves, saying, "What is this? What new doctrine is this, that He commands even the unclean spirits with authority, and they obey Him?"

 

Luk_4:36  And amazement came upon all, and they spoke among themselves, saying, "What is this word! For with authority and power He commands the unclean spirits, and they come out."

 

Act_16:17-18  This girl, following after Paul and us, was crying out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation."  18  And this she did for many days. But Paul, being greatly annoyed and turning around, said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out in that very hour.

 

(Notice that the Apostles understood that we were supposed to confront the devil just like Jesus did. Compare: Act_4:13)

 

Fight!

It is time to fight! No longer are we allowed to play around with the spiritual forces that play with us to seduce us unto their desired end, to bring us to sinful unbelieving destruction. It is time to embrace Biblical Spiritual Warfare, so that we can actually resist the evil that all other humans are allowing to compulse, dictate, and define their lives.

 

I urge you: Fight! And let us finally see Jesus’ kingdom working again on earth:

 

Mat_12:28 CAB  But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

 

(Also see: Luk_11:20)

 

Not by Mighty Ability

8/26/18

 

Joshua 23

Jos_23:3 WEB  You have seen all that Yahweh your God has done to all these nations because of you; for it is Yahweh your God who has fought for you.

Jos_23:3 LB  And you have seen all that the Lord our God has done to all these nations before us; for it is the Lord your God who has fought for you.

Jos_23:3  ὑμεῖς δὲ ἑωράκατε ὅσα ἐποίησεν κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν πᾶσιν τοῖς ἔθνεσιν τούτοις ἀπὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, ὅτι κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν ὁ ἐκπολεμήσας ὑμῖν.

 

 

Jos_23:9 WEB  For Yahweh has driven great and strong nations out from before you. But as for you, no man has stood before you to this day.

Jos_23:9 LB  And the Lord shall destroy them before you, even great and strong nations; and no one has stood before us until this day.

Jos_23:9  καὶ ἐξωλέθρευσεν αὐτοὺς κύριος ἀπὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, ἔθνη μεγάλα καὶ ἰσχυρά, καὶ ὑμῖν οὐθεὶς ἀντέστη κατενώπιον ὑμῶν ἕως τῆς ἡμέρας ταύτης·

Jos_23:10 WEB  One man of you shall chase a thousand; for it is Yahweh your God who fights for you, as he spoke to you.

Jos_23:10 One of you has chased a thousand, for the Lord our God, He fought for you, as He said to us.

Jos_23:10  εἷς ὑμῶν ἐδίωξεν χιλίους, ὅτι κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν ἐξεπολέμει ὑμῖν, καθάπερ εἶπεν ὑμῖν.

 

 

Jos_23:11 WEB  Take good heed therefore to yourselves, that you love Yahweh your God.

Jos_23:11 LB And take great heed to love the Lord our God.

Jos_23:11  καὶ φυλάξασθε σφόδρα τοῦ ἀγαπᾶν κύριον τὸν θεὸν ὑμῶν.

Jos_23:12 WEB  Else if you do at all go back, and hold fast to the remnant of these nations, even these who remain among you, and make marriages with them, and go in to them, and they to you;

Jos_23:12 For if you shall turn aside and attach yourselves to these nations that are left with you, and make marriages with them, and become mingled with them and they with you,

Jos_23:12  ἐὰν γὰρ ἀποστραφῆτε καὶ προσθῆσθε τοῖς ὑπολειφθεῖσιν ἔθνεσιν τούτοις τοῖς μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν καὶ ἐπιγαμίας ποιήσητε πρὸς αὐτοὺς καὶ συγκαταμιγῆτε αὐτοῖς καὶ αὐτοὶ ὑμῖν,

Jos_23:13 WEB  know for a certainty that Yahweh your God will no longer drive these nations from out of your sight; but they shall be a snare and a trap to you, a scourge in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from off this good land which Yahweh your God has given you.

Jos_23:13 know that the Lord will no more destroy these nations from before you; and they will be to you snares and stumbling blocks, and nails in your heels, and darts in your eyes, until you are destroyed from off this good land, which the Lord your God has given you.

Jos_23:13  γινώσκετε ὅτι οὐ μὴ προσθῇ κύριος τοῦ ἐξολεθρεῦσαι τὰ ἔθνη ταῦτα ἀπὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, καὶ ἔσονται ὑμῖν εἰς παγίδας καὶ εἰς σκάνδαλα καὶ εἰς ἥλους ἐν ταῖς πτέρναις ὑμῶν καὶ εἰς βολίδας ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ὑμῶν, ἕως ἂν ἀπόλησθε ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς τῆς ἀγαθῆς ταύτης, ἣν ἔδωκεν ὑμῖν κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

>> Sync: LO | SPI

 

Personal Guidance Spirits

Tags: personal guiding spirits

>> see: LO

Add:

- vast majority of spiritual activity = demonic

- easy to connect w demons, hard to connect w Monotheism (i.e. enter the narrow gate) that's why there are many surprised religious people at Judgement…

>> SOM: Lord, Lord didn't we...

- 'another jesus' (RTF bb notes?)

 

>> See: Dis: 1Sa_13:1 -- Saul’s Rebellion

>> See: Love: personal relationship sacrifice

>> dis: the value of the individual

>> should "the value of the individual" be moved into personal guidance Spirits, or should personal guidance Spirits be otherwise combined with the value of the individual?

>> get an Interlinear resource of Socrates and his demon

 

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“A pastor is a feeder. Who's primary teaching needs to point people back to Jesus and get you ready to meet God. ( We will all stand and give a account, how we lived our lives, gift, talents ect)

 

We walk with Jesus. My sheep hear my voice.”

Friederike Maragela

 

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Sodom and gomorah & Jerico

8/3/18

 

‘no matter how dirty you are and given your whole life over to evil, all you got to do is turn toward the truth and believe God’s abasadors and join to God’s people and you will be snatched out of accursed paganism and saved

 

All it takes is one righteous person and anyone whos lives were otherwise completely accursed that they believe and everyone who jam pack in with their life is saved…

 

 

 

Jos_6:25 WEB  But Rahab the prostitute, her father's household, and all that she had, Joshua saved alive. She lived in the midst of Israel to this day, because she hid the messengers, whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

Jos_6:25 LB?  And Joshua spared Rahab the harlot, and all the house of her father, and caused her to dwell in Israel until this day, because she hid the spies which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

Jos_6:25  καὶ Ρααβ τὴν πόρνην καὶ πάντα τὸν οἶκον τὸν πατρικὸν αὐτῆς ἐζώγρησεν Ἰησοῦς, καὶ κατῴκησεν ἐν τῷ Ισραηλ ἕως τῆς σήμερον ἡμέρας, διότι ἔκρυψεν τοὺς κατασκοπεύσαντας, οὓς ἀπέστειλεν Ἰησοῦς κατασκοπεῦσαι τὴν Ιεριχω. --

 

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Dedicating your Life to J.C. Can Send You to Hell

8/3/18

 

Trump praised a guest in his speech for having been a former bank robber and afterward “dedicating his life” to j.c.

This is evangelicalism, not truth.

In the Bible they did not “dedicate their life” to an unseen conception, but to the DOCTRINE of those whom Jesus sent who were actually right in front of the preaching truth!

 

Act_2:40 LB  And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this crooked generation."

Act_2:40  ετεροις τε λογοις πλειοσιν Aδιεμαρτυρατο TSBδιεμαρτυρετο και παρεκαλει Aαυτους λεγων σωθητε απο της γενεας της σκολιας ταυτης

Act_2:41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added.

Act_2:41  οι μεν ουν TSBασμενως αποδεξαμενοι τον λογον αυτου εβαπτισθησαν και προσετεθησαν Aεν τη ημερα εκεινη ψυχαι ωσει τρισχιλιαι

Act_2:42  And they were continuing in the teaching of the apostles, and in fellowship, and in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Act_2:42  ησαν δε προσκαρτερουντες τη διδαχη των αποστολων και τη κοινωνια TSBκαι τη κλασει του αρτου και ταις προσευχαις

 

 

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Song/Hymn: wherever he leads I’ll go

8/2/18

 

Comp. CeCo

This hypocritical independent emotion, as though you are actually submitting to someone else!

The best you are doing here is submitting to your own conscious, and while that has a sense of satisfaction through being better off than those who sin against their own conscious, yet this satisfaction ultimately breeds the most insane deception, since you lie to yourself as if submitting your will to the truth, but you are only accountable to your own misguided and ignorant conscious!

 

You hypocrites leave off the weightier matters of the law!

 

Oh, Your sick superstitions of men and their demonic lies!

 

Complacent and content with your own hell bound soul…

Sub mitting to and worshiping your own self-centered ego

As though the monotheistic divine is as your own leading and concious!

You will follow your PIMP antichrist because he says he “loves you so”… but you are so luxurious and wallowing in unconvicted sin that you won’t even soften you heart or turn your foolish mindlessness to respect or even care about the truth!

 

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The madness of Golden Calves

9/17/17

 

Jeroboam put golden calves in the temples in liberal Northern Israel.

It did not matter how many Bible verses or clearly confirmed Monotheistic history went against him.

! People did not read or care to read or believe the truth about how their relationship was condemned, they just wanted their own perverted lust that was independent to the righteous ones, and they did not care about any accountability to reality…

 

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Num_14:40-45 – fleshballs try to inherit Promised Land their own way in extended rebellion (by personal guidance spirits)

Prayer

Num_14:40 – fleshballs got up early to the top of a mountain saying they will go up to the promised land

 

Deu_1:41 WEB  Then you answered and said to me, We have sinned against Yahweh, we will go up and fight, according to all that Yahweh our God commanded us. You girded on every man his weapons of war, and were forward to go up into the hill country.

Deu_1:41 LB  ‘And you answered and said, ‘We have sinned before the Lord our God; we will go up and fight according to all that the Lord our God has commanded us.’ And everyone, having taken up their weapons of war, and being gathered together, went up to the mountain.

Deu_1:41  καὶ ἀπεκρίθητέ μοι καὶ εἴπατε Ἡμάρτομεν ἔναντι κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν· ἡμεῖς ἀναβάντες πολεμήσομεν κατὰ πάντα, ὅσα ἐνετείλατο κύριος ὁ θεὸς ἡμῶν ἡμῖν. καὶ ἀναλαβόντες ἕκαστος τὰ σκεύη τὰ πολεμικὰ αὐτοῦ καὶ συναθροισθέντες ἀνεβαίνετε εἰς τὸ ὄρος.

Deu_1:42 WEB  Yahweh said to me, Tell them, Don't go up, neither fight; for I am not among you; lest you be struck before your enemies.

Deu_1:42 And the Lord said to me, ‘Tell them, “You shall not go up, neither shall you fight, for I am not with you; lest you be destroyed before your enemies.’”

Deu_1:42  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Εἰπὸν αὐτοῖς Οὐκ ἀναβήσεσθε οὐδὲ μὴ πολεμήσετε, οὐ γάρ εἰμι μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν· καὶ οὐ μὴ συντριβῆτε ἐνώπιον τῶν ἐχθρῶν ὑμῶν.

Deu_1:43 WEB  So I spoke to you, and you didn't listen; but you rebelled against the commandment of Yahweh, and were presumptuous, and went up into the hill country.

Deu_1:43 “And I spoke to you, and you did not listen to me; and you transgressed the commandment of the Lord; and you forced your way and went up into the mountain.

Deu_1:43  καὶ ἐλάλησα ὑμῖν, καὶ οὐκ εἰσηκούσατέ μου καὶ παρέβητε τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου καὶ παραβιασάμενοι ἀνέβητε εἰς τὸ ὄρος.

Deu_1:44 WEB  The Amorites, who lived in that hill country, came out against you, and chased you, as bees do, and beat you down in Seir, even to Hormah.

Deu_1:44 And the Amorite who dwelt in that mountain came out to meet you, and pursued you as bees do, and wounded you from Seir to Hormah.

Deu_1:44  καὶ ἐξῆλθεν ὁ Αμορραῖος ὁ κατοικῶν ἐν τῷ ὄρει ἐκείνῳ εἰς συνάντησιν ὑμῖν καὶ κατεδίωξαν ὑμᾶς, ὡς εἰ ποιήσαισαν αἱ μέλισσαι, καὶ ἐτίτρωσκον ὑμᾶς ἀπὸ Σηιρ ἕως Ερμα.

Deu_1:45 WEB  You returned and wept before Yahweh; but Yahweh didn't listen to your voice, nor gave ear to you.

Deu_1:45 And you sat down and wept before the Lord our God, and the Lord would not listen to your voice, neither did He take heed to you.

Deu_1:45  καὶ καθίσαντες ἐκλαίετε ἔναντι κυρίου, καὶ οὐκ εἰσήκουσεν κύριος τῆς φωνῆς ὑμῶν οὐδὲ προσέσχεν ὑμῖν.

 

 

SOM on Personal Guidance Spirits

Jesus foresaw that people would treat him as though he was a personal guidance Spirit, even when He was not around!

 

 

Examples of People Who Stumbled in the Intoxication of Personal Guidance Spirits

8/6/17

 

 

 

mom: the ghost is a personal guidance spirit

 

divorced lady: did not want to commit idolatry with worshiping the God of the righteous assembly, but treacherously and perversely disoriented to not care about committing idolatry with their own perverted and disgusting dirty personal guidance spirit!

through perversity and twisted unfaithfulness, and treachery, and loving sin, and loving her own soul, and loving this life, she could not acknowledge the Divinity of Jesus's bride, and the upcoming exaltations of those who know the Truth.

she was willing to look up at the idolatry above her own head and serve her own soul and worship her own personal idolatry, but was not willing to look above the head of the righteous who are clean and true and honest and Washed by Bible obedience in order to worship the clean righteous true biblical God witch is above their heads. she dares to call Worshiping someone else's God, idolatry!

and she has no conviction at all when wallowing in the bed of her fornication, and playing around in the defilement of her own prostitutions, with their own perverse and disgusting idolatrous personal guidance spirit gods.

 

Balsinger:

lost everything, and his wife left him. went into the woods and prayed for days crying out for answers. Doesn't understand why some people seem to have a piece about them. looked everywhere inside himself with his own personal relationship and did everything that he could to find answers, and then when truth was staring him right in the face, he couldn't bring himself to believe or move towards doing the slightest bit of justice and acknowledgement of reality and honest Justice.

willing to do anything except the one thing that is absolutely righteous and demanded for him to live.

John 5&6 not willing to come to us that he may have life.

 

MrS

this all comes from the absolutely horrible and disgusting perversion of not realizing how ugly and defiled and perverted you are, in wallowing in unbridled sins and untold amounts of Satan worship.

 

following your personal relationship over the Bible is Satan worship

you can feel free to break all of the Bible and insist on the Antichrist of evangelicalism and insist that it is wrong to worship someone else's God, but remember that worshiping Satan and loving sin will make your flesh as if it were to be peeled away when you're roasting in the fire hell.

 

you have not taken up your cross. you have loved and preserved your own soul. you have found your own life in this life, and now you are destined to lose it.

You have worshiped the vanity of what popular culture has taught you. You have bowed your head to worship the sinful Antichrist of popular opinion.

you have trusted the reputation of numbers (saying, there is safety in numbers) rather than respecting the salty fiery qualitative Truth of perfect monotheism, and the Divinity of the words of God. in respect of persons, you have been emotionally persuaded and moved to warmly love the opinion of the majority, even though the Bible says that you will not follow a crowd to do evil. and followed pigs headlong into suicidal plunging destruction.

 

praise the peer pressure to sin

 

you have trusted many people, rather than reverencing the actual truth of the actual words of scripture, which God actually says.

 

although the truth is right in front of your face, in the Bible and in those who obey it, and they might be standing and living right in front of you or speaking in your ears, you can't seem to overcome your hesitation to defy all of the worthless sinful perverted and imperfect apostate preachers and Church people that impress your heart so much with their good feelings and impressive appearances. you cannot overcome your worthless impressions of worthless people, and your beloved and cherished warmly delighted false doctrines...

 

 

Your Own Spirituality Will Send You to Hell

6/22/17; 6/23/17

the goal of almost all evangelicalism is to get people excited to practice their own spirituality.

 

the goal of monotheism is to demand that you repent of and die to your own spirituality and submit and worship someone else's -- the absolutely perfect and true spirituality you have never known before.

 

the huge problem with your own spirituality is that you are not actually spiritual in order to practice it. otherwise, your spirituality would lead you into 100% perfect Bible obedience.

but in order to practice your own spirituality you actually have to be soulish, not spiritual.

 

 

your own spirituality is  divination, or personal guidance spirits.

 

it is abomination that Jesus condemns and came casting out

 

Pagan Personal Relationship Rebellions

6/11/17; 4/3/18

 

 

 

 

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Psa_138:6 WEB  For though Yahweh is high, yet he looks after the lowly; but the proud, he knows from afar.

Psa_138:6 LB For the Lord is on high, and yet regards the lowly [ταπεινὰ]; and He knows [γινώσκει] high things [τὰ ὑψηλὰ] from afar off.

Psa_138:6  (137:6) ὅτι ὑψηλὸς κύριος καὶ τὰ ταπεινὰ ἐφορᾷ καὶ τὰ ὑψηλὰ ἀπὸ μακρόθεν γινώσκει.

>> Sync: LUX | SPI √

 

This proves that your “personal relationship” with J.C. is worthless and unbiblical.

>> Sync: LUX | SPI √

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Num_14:40 WEB  They rose up early in the morning, and got them up to the top of the mountain, saying, Behold, we are here, and will go up to the place which Yahweh has promised: for we have sinned.

Num_14:40 LB  And they rose early in the morning and went up to the top of the mountain, saying, “Behold, we that are here will go up to the place of which the Lord has spoken, because we have sinned.”

Num_14:40  καὶ ὀρθρίσαντες τὸ πρωὶ ἀνέβησαν εἰς τὴν κορυφὴν τοῦ ὄρους λέγοντες Ἰδοὺ οἵδε ἡμεῖς ἀναβησόμεθα εἰς τὸν τόπον, ὃν εἶπεν κύριος, ὅτι ἡμάρτομεν.

Num_14:41 WEB  Moses said, Why now do you disobey the commandment of Yahweh, seeing it shall not prosper?

Num_14:41 And Moses said, “Why do you transgress the word of the Lord? You shall not prosper.

Num_14:41  καὶ εἶπεν Μωυσῆς Ἵνα τί ὑμεῖς παραβαίνετε τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου; οὐκ εὔοδα ἔσται ὑμῖν.

Num_14:42 WEB  Don't go up, for Yahweh isn't among you; that you not be struck down before your enemies.

Num_14:42 Do not go up, for the Lord is not with you; so shall you fall before the face of your enemies.

Num_14:42  μὴ ἀναβαίνετε· οὐ γάρ ἐστιν κύριος μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν, καὶ πεσεῖσθε πρὸ προσώπου τῶν ἐχθρῶν ὑμῶν.

Num_14:43 WEB  For there the Amalekite and the Canaanite are before you, and you shall fall by the sword: because you are turned back from following Yahweh, therefore Yahweh will not be with you.

Num_14:43 For Amalek and the Canaanite are there before you, and you shall fall by the sword; because you have disobeyed the Lord and turned aside, and the Lord will not be among you.”

Num_14:43  ὅτι ὁ Αμαληκ καὶ ὁ Χαναναῖος ἐκεῖ ἔμπροσθεν ὑμῶν, καὶ πεσεῖσθε μαχαίρᾳ· οὗ εἵνεκεν ἀπεστράφητε ἀπειθοῦντες κυρίῳ, καὶ οὐκ ἔσται κύριος ἐν ὑμῖν.

Num_14:44 WEB  But they presumed to go up to the top of the mountain: nevertheless the ark of the covenant of Yahweh, and Moses, didn't depart out of the camp.

Num_14:44 And having forced their passage, they went up to the top of the mountain; but the ark of the covenant of the Lord and Moses did not leave the camp.

Num_14:44  καὶ διαβιασάμενοι ἀνέβησαν ἐπὶ τὴν κορυφὴν τοῦ ὄρους· ἡ δὲ κιβωτὸς τῆς διαθήκης κυρίου καὶ Μωυσῆς οὐκ ἐκινήθησαν ἐκ τῆς παρεμβολῆς.

Num_14:45 WEB  Then the Amalekite came down, and the Canaanite who lived in that mountain, and struck them and beat them down, even to Hormah.

Num_14:45 And Amalek and the Canaanite that dwelt in that mountain came down, and routed them, and destroyed them unto Herman; and they returned to the camp.

Num_14:45  καὶ κατέβη ὁ Αμαληκ καὶ ὁ Χαναναῖος ὁ ἐγκαθήμενος ἐν τῷ ὄρει ἐκείνῳ καὶ ἐτρέψαντο αὐτοὺς καὶ κατέκοψαν αὐτοὺς ἕως Ερμαν· καὶ ἀπεστράφησαν εἰς τὴν παρεμβολήν.

 

Num_16:3 WEB and they assembled themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said to them, You take too much on you, seeing all the congregation are holy, everyone of them, and Yahweh is among them: why then lift yourselves up above the assembly of Yahweh?

Num_16:3 They rose up against Moses and Aaron, and said, “Let it be enough for you that all the congregation is holy, and the Lord is among them; and why do you set up yourselves against the congregation of the Lord?”

Num_16:3 συνέστησαν ἐπὶ Μωυσῆν καὶ Ααρων καὶ εἶπαν Ἐχέτω ὑμῖν, ὅτι πᾶσα ἡ συναγωγὴ πάντες ἅγιοι καὶ ἐν αὐτοῖς κύριος, καὶ διὰ τί κατανίστασθε ἐπὶ τὴν συναγωγὴν κυρίου;

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Personalizing Your Beliefs Might Make You Passionate, But it Does Not Make Them Right

10/22/16

 

So many people simply inherit beliefs and values from others, and the complacency of this leaves us with a society of extremely shallow people.

 

While most people are content to simply be a complacent and predictably shallow product of their culture, passionate leaders are usually birthed out of striving through their beliefs and internalizing values so that they have a personal zeal for what they believe.

 

The shallow people have not thought through what they have inherited, but they are usually willing to outsource this responsibility to leaders who can seem to successfully motivate them from the personalized zeal these leaders have developed.

 

And this affords a very big and profound problem that very few people come to realize.

 

The answer that is given to a shallow society is that they need to personalize and internalize their faith in order to be passionate about it, but no one ever seems to concern themselves with considering the vanity of being personally convinced with what is made of flesh.

 

 

personalizing and internalizing what you want to believe does not make it more true, it just makes you more committed and even potentially passionate and zealous you might be toward what you believe, no matter whether it may or may not be true.

 

and this is a big problem because "zeal without knowledge is not good" and "love is not zealous" in that dirty way.

 

being more personally and enthusiastically persuaded about something that you believe, without it being based on absolute truth, is evil, filthy, and sinful lawlessness.

 

 

Zeal without knowledge (truth) is a sure foundation for every injustice.

10/22/16

 

 

Socrates’ Apology

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/apology.html

 

“You have often heard me speak of an oracle or sign which comes to me, and is the divinity which Meletus ridicules in the indictment. This sign I have had ever since I was a child. The sign is a voice which comes to me and always forbids me to do something which I am going to do, but never commands me to do anything, and this is what stands in the way of my being a politician.”

 

Socrates’ Symposium

"What then is Love?" I asked; "Is he mortal?" "No." "What then?" "As in the former instance, he is neither mortal nor immortal, but in a mean between the two." "What is he, Diotima?" "He is a great spirit (daimon), and like all spirits he is intermediate between the divine and the mortal."

Symposium, By Plato

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/symposium.html

8/2/13

 

 

“Of what order is this daimon, which manifested itself to Socrates in childhood but was also heard by Apollonius of Tyana only after he had begun to put into practice the Hermetic principles? "They are intermediate powers of a divine order. They fashion dreams, inspire soothsayers," says Apuleius. "They are inferior immortals, called gods of the second rank, placed between earth and heaven," says Maximus of Tyre. Plato thinks that a kind of spirit, which is separate from us, receives man at his birth, and follows him in life and after death. He calls it "the daimon which has received us as its portionment." The ancient idea of the daimon seems, therefore, to be analogous to the guardian angel of Christians. Possibly the daimon is nothing but the higher part of man's spirit, that which is separated from the human element and is capable, through ecstasy, of becoming one with the universal spirit. ²

http://daemonpage.com/socrates-daimon.php

8/3/13

 

 

 

Other

“loves of youths share the evil repute in which philosophy and gymnastics are held because they are inimical to tyranny; for the interests of rulers require that their subjects should be poor in spirit and that there should be no strong bond of friendship or society among them, which love, above all other motives, is likely to inspire, as our Athenian tyrants-learned by experience”

 

“But when parents forbid their sons to talk with their lovers, and place them under a tutor's care, who is appointed to see to these things, and their companions and equals cast in their teeth anything of the sort which they may observe, and their elders refuse to silence the reprovers and do not rebuke them-any one who reflects on all this will, on the contrary, think that we hold these practices to be most disgraceful.”

 

 

 

 

The Nature of the Spiritual Realm

Here are some additional verses (like Homework) that you can be reading and thinking about when fighting the Devil

 

“The notion that a causally effective incorporeal body is even coherent requires the belief that something can effect what's material, without physically existing at the point of effect. A ball can directly effect another ball by coming in direct contact with it, and is visible because it reflects the light that directly reaches it. An incorporeal field of influence, or immaterial body could not perform these functions because they have no physical construction with which to perform these functions.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporeality

10/9/12

 

First Intro Passages

This is where we climax with reading Enoch

9/29/12

 

Gen_6:1 –

Job_1:6

1Ki_22:19-23

Heb_11:5

 

2Pe_2:4 –

Jud_1:6 –

 

Mat_8:29

Mar_5:1-20; Luk_8:26-39;

Luk_8:31

 

Luk_11:24

 

Mat_12:43

 

Eph_6:12 -- ArmorofGod

 

 

False Prophets have Unclean Spirits

Zec_13:2 CAB  And it shall come to pass in that day, says the Lord of hosts, that I will utterly destroy the names of the idols from off the land, and there shall be no longer any remembrance of them: and I will cut off the false prophets and the evil spirit from the land.

 

Compare this with the fact that Jesus was accused of having an unclean spirit!

 

You Need To Be Spiritual To See And Live

Joh_3:3 – born again/ perceive the (spiritual) kingdom

Joh_4:24 -

Dan_12:10 – only the wise will understand

 

Beginning of Satan

Eze_28:11-19 - prince of Tyre...You were in...the paradise of God...you were with the cherub; I set you on the holy mount of God...stones of fire...You were faultless...you have been cast down

Isa_14:7-23 - Hell from beneath is provoked to meet you...Lucifer...fallen from heaven...you have said in your heart, I will go up to heaven...

 

1Co_13:12 - 3rd Heaven

 

See: Various Authorities under ArmorofGod (also: Weapons Of Our Warfare)

 

Limited Attack

Job_1:10 -

Psa_34:7 -

 

Fight

Eph_6:11-14 - Whole Armor (see: ArmorofGod)

 

Trample Enemy

Isa_54:17 - No weapon;

Mal_4:3 - you shall tread down the wicked;

Luk_10:19 - I give unto you power;

Rom_8:38-39  - no separate from love;

Jas_4:7 -  ... Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.;

1Jo_4:4  - greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world;

 

Authority

Luk_9:1 -

Luk_10:19 -

Mat_10:6-8 -

1Jo_3:8 -

Eph_4:27 -

2Co_2:11 - not ignorant

1Th_2:17

Rev_12:11 -

Dan_10:12-13 -

1Th_2:18 -

1Co_9:26 -

Luk_4:4 -

Luk_4:10 -

Luk_4:12 -

2Ti_2:3-5 - a good soldier

 

Eph_6:11-17 - the whole Armor of God

1Pe_5:8-9 - be vigilant… a roaring lion…resist steadfast;

1Jo_5:4-5 - overcome…the world

 

Word of God

Eph_6:17 (see: ArmorofGod)

Mar_11:24-25;

Num_13:30;

 

Church Perverts Oppose Authority

“You are not big enough to accuse the whole age effectively, but let us say you are in dissent. You are in no position to issue commands, but you can speak words of hope. Shall this be the substance of your message? Be human in this most inhuman of ages; guard the image of man for it is the image of God. --Thomas Merton”

http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/2012/05/treat-them-as-pagan-or-tax-collector.html

7/16/17

 

 

 

Strongholds

 

“I will no longer drive out your enemies” – compromise is serious

Num_33:55; Jos_23:10-13; Exo_23:33

Pro_15:19

 

Rom_13:14 – Make no provision for flesh

"...don't do something in your mind ahead of time into heatings upons of the flesh" Rom_13:14 translation

 

Eph_5:8-16 – Have no partnership with darkness

 

Questions and Definitions

- dormant, potential sin

- difference between Being a slave to sin (out of Egypt) vs. places Israel still needs to over through

- is it more general than this? It could be anything that opposes you?

 

Isa_24:21-22 CAB  And God shall bring His hand upon the host of heaven, and upon the kings of the earth.  22  And they shall gather the multitude thereof into prisons, and they shall shut them into a stronghold; after many generations they shall be visited.

 

Isa_24:21-22 WEB  It shall happen in that day that Yahweh will punish the army of the high ones on high, and the kings of the earth on the earth.  22  They shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison; and after many days shall they be visited.

 

(also see: Zec_9:12 – LXX vs. MT)

 

Strongholds Are for War

Dan_11:7 CAB  and shall come against the host, and shall enter into the strongholds of the king of the north, and shall fight against them, and prevail.

 

Nah_3:14 WEB  Draw water for the siege. Strengthen your fortresses. Go into the clay, and tread the mortar. Make the brick kiln strong.

 

If Stronghold Successful

Zec_9:3 WEB  Tyre built herself a stronghold, and heaped up silver like the dust, and fine gold like the mire of the streets.

 

The Weapons of Our Warfare

2Co_10:1-7 CAB  Now I, Paul, myself appeal to you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, I who face to face am lowly among you, but when I am away am bold toward you.  2  But I beseech you that when I am present I may not be bold with the confidence with which I plan to be bold toward some, who consider us as walking according to the flesh.  3  For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.  4  For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty by God to the pulling down of strongholds,  5  casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ,  6  and being ready to avenge every act of disobedience, whenever your obedience is fulfilled.  7  Do you look at things as they appear? If anyone has persuaded himself that he is Christ's, let him again consider this in himself, that just as he is Christ's, even so we are Christ's.

 

(compare this with test: 1Co_9:27; 2Co_13:5)

 

Do NOT Dwell (get comfortable) feeling “safe” in a pagan Stronghold!

1Sa_22:4-5 [but compare 1Sa_24:22; 2Sa_5:17; 2Sa_23:14]

 

Physical Parable: Agreement Helps!

1Ch_11:3-11 CAB  And all the elders of Israel came to the king at Hebron; and King David made a covenant with them in Hebron before the Lord. And they anointed David to be king over Israel, according to the word of the Lord by Samuel.  4  And the king and his men went to Jerusalem (this is Jebus); and there the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, said to David,  5  You shall not enter in here. But he took the stronghold of Zion: this is the City of David.  6  And David said, Whoever first smites the Jebusite, even he shall be chief and captain. And Joab the son of Zeruiah went up first, and became chief.  7  And David dwelt in the stronghold; therefore he called it the City of David.  8  And he fortified the city round about.  9  And David continued to increase, and the Lord Almighty was with him.  10  And these are the chiefs of the mighty men, whom David had, who strengthened themselves with him in his kingdom, with all Israel, to make him king, according to the word of the Lord concerning Israel.  11  And this is the list of the mighty men of David: Jashobeam, son of a Hachmonite, first of the thirty; he drew his sword once against three hundred, whom he killed at one time.

 

Think: if two or three of you agree

- we can do warfare for each other

- no conditional agreement

- this is what Paul comes against in Corinthians

 

Good Strongholds Have Been taken Over By Saints

- Pro_10:29

- all enemies under his feet

2Co_1:3-4

 

Tear them Down!

TSK – on Strongholds

 

Jos_6:20, Isa_30:25, Jer_1:10, Heb_11:30

 

Mic_5:9-15 CAB  Your hand shall be lifted up against them that afflict you, and all your enemies shall be utterly destroyed.  10  And it shall come to pass in that day, says the Lord, that I will utterly destroy the horses out of the midst of you, and destroy your chariots;  11  and I will utterly destroy the cities of your land, and demolish all your strongholds:  12  and I will utterly destroy your sorceries out of your hands; and there shall be no soothsayers in you.  13  And I will utterly destroy your graven images, and your statues out of the midst of you; and you shall never any more worship the works of your hands.  14  And I will cut off the groves out of the midst of you, and I will abolish your cities.  15  And I will execute vengeance on the heathen in anger and wrath, because they did not obey.

 

 

Punishment

Isa_23:14

Isa_34:13, Isa_37:26, Jer_48:7, Jer_48:18, Jer_48:41, Jer_49:22, Lam_2:2, Lam_2:5

Hab_1:9-10, etc. (gathers as sand)

 

How to Do Deep Spiritual Warfare & Surgery On Yourself

 

Keep Hitting vs. Not Being Impressed with It

 

Good story

 

 

 

Spw Additions

 

 

 

 

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Don’t Tolerate Your Enemies or Make Excuses for Inability

8/17/18-8/18/18

 

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Jos_17:12 WEB  Yet the children of Manasseh couldn't drive out the inhabitants of those cities; but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.

Jos_17:12 LB  And the sons of Manasseh were not able to destroy these cities; and the Canaanite began to dwell in that land.

Jos_17:12  καὶ οὐκ ἠδυνάσθησαν οἱ υἱοὶ Μανασση ἐξολεθρεῦσαι τὰς πόλεις ταύτας, καὶ ἤρχετο ὁ Χαναναῖος κατοικεῖν ἐν τῇ γῇ ταύτῃ·

Jos_17:13 WEB  It happened, when the children of Israel had grown strong, that they put the Canaanites to forced labor, and didn't utterly drive them out.

Jos_17:13 And it came to pass that when the children of Israel were strong, they made the Canaanites subject to them, but they did not utterly destroy them.

Jos_17:13  καὶ ἐγενήθη καὶ ἐπεὶ κατίσχυσαν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ, καὶ ἐποίησαν τοὺς Χαναναίους ὑπηκόους, ἐξολεθρεῦσαι δὲ αὐτοὺς οὐκ ἐξωλέθρευσαν.

Jos_17:14 WEB  The children of Joseph spoke to Joshua, saying, "Why have you given me just one lot and one part for an inheritance, since I am a great people, because Yahweh has blessed me so far?"

Jos_17:14 The Sons of Joseph Protest And the sons of Joseph answered Joshua, saying, “Why have you caused us to inherit one inheritance, and only one lot, seeing we are a great people, and God has blessed us?”

Jos_17:14  Ἀντεῖπαν δὲ οἱ υἱοὶ Ιωσηφ τῷ Ἰησοῦ λέγοντες Διὰ τί ἐκληρονόμησας ἡμᾶς κλῆρον ἕνα καὶ σχοίνισμα ἕν; ἐγὼ δὲ λαὸς πολύς εἰμι, καὶ ὁ θεὸς εὐλόγησέν με.

Jos_17:15 WEB  Joshua said to them, "If you are a great people, go up to the forest, and clear land for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim; since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you."

Jos_17:15 And Joshua said to them, “If you are a great people, go up to the forest, and clear the land for yourself, if Mount Ephraim is too small for you.”

Jos_17:15  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Ἰησοῦς Εἰ λαὸς πολὺς εἶ, ἀνάβηθι εἰς τὸν δρυμὸν καὶ ἐκκάθαρον σεαυτῷ, εἰ στενοχωρεῖ σε τὸ ὄρος τὸ Εφραιμ.

Jos_17:16 WEB  The children of Joseph said, "The hill country is not enough for us. All the Canaanites who dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron, both those who are in Beth Shean and its towns, and those who are in the valley of Jezreel."

Jos_17:16 And they said, “Mount Ephraim does not please us, and the Canaanite dwelling in it in Beth Shean, and in its villages, and in the valley of Jezreel, has choice cavalry and iron.”

Jos_17:16  καὶ εἶπαν Οὐκ ἀρκέσει ἡμῖν τὸ ὄρος τὸ Εφραιμ, καὶ ἵππος ἐπίλεκτος καὶ σίδηρος τῷ Χαναναίῳ τῷ κατοικοῦντι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐν Βαιθσαν καὶ ἐν ταῖς κώμαις αὐτῆς ἐν τῇ κοιλάδι Ιεζραελ.

Jos_17:17 WEB  Joshua spoke to the house of Joseph, even to Ephraim and to Manasseh, saying, "You are a great people, and have great power. You shall not have one lot only;

Jos_17:17 And Joshua said to the sons of Joseph, “If you are a great people, and have great strength, you shall not have only one inheritance.

Jos_17:17  καὶ εἶπεν Ἰησοῦς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ιωσηφ Εἰ λαὸς πολὺς εἶ καὶ ἰσχὺν μεγάλην ἔχεις, οὐκ ἔσται σοι κλῆρος εἷς·

Jos_17:18 WEB  but the hill country shall be yours. Although it is a forest, you shall cut it down, and it's farthest extent shall be yours; for you shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they are strong."

Jos_17:18 For you shall have the wood, for there is a wood, and you shall clear it, and the land shall be yours; even when you shall have utterly destroyed the Canaanite, for he has chosen cavalry; yet you are stronger than he.”

Jos_17:18  ὁ γὰρ δρυμὸς ἔσται σοι, ὅτι δρυμός ἐστιν καὶ ἐκκαθαριεῖς αὐτὸν καὶ ἔσται σοι· καὶ ὅταν ἐξολεθρεύσῃς τὸν Χαναναῖον, ὅτι ἵππος ἐπίλεκτός ἐστιν αὐτῷ, σὺ γὰρ ὑπερισχύεις αὐτοῦ.

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Jos_18:1 WEB  The whole congregation of the children of Israel assembled themselves together at Shiloh, and set up the Tent of Meeting there. The land was subdued before them.

Jos_18:1 LB  The Remainder of the Land Divided And all the congregation of the children of Israel were assembled at Shiloh, and there they pitched the tabernacle of witness. And the land was subdued by them.

Jos_18:1  Καὶ ἐξεκκλησιάσθη πᾶσα συναγωγὴ υἱῶν Ισραηλ εἰς Σηλω καὶ ἔπηξαν ἐκεῖ τὴν σκηνὴν τοῦ μαρτυρίου, καὶ ἡ γῆ ἐκρατήθη ὑπ᾿ αὐτῶν.

Jos_18:2 WEB  Seven tribes remained among the children of Israel, which had not yet divided their inheritance.

Jos_18:2 And the sons of Israel remained, even those who had not received their inheritance, seven tribes.

Jos_18:2  καὶ κατελείφθησαν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ, οἳ οὐκ ἐκληρονόμησαν, ἑπτὰ φυλαί.

Jos_18:3 WEB  Joshua said to the children of Israel, "How long will you neglect to go in to possess the land, which Yahweh, the God of your fathers, has given you?

Jos_18:3 And Joshua said to the sons of Israel, “How long will you be slack to inherit the land, which the Lord our God has given you?

Jos_18:3  καὶ εἶπεν Ἰησοῦς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Ἕως τίνος ἐκλυθήσεσθε κληρονομῆσαι τὴν γῆν, ἣν ἔδωκεν κύριος ὁ θεὸς ἡμῶν;

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Jos_21:43 WEB  So Yahweh gave to Israel all the land which he swore to give to their fathers. They possessed it, and lived in it.

Jos_21:43 LB  The Promise Fulfilled So the Lord gave to Israel all the land which He swore to give to their fathers: and they inherited it, and dwelt in it.

Jos_21:43  Καὶ ἔδωκεν κύριος τῷ Ισραηλ πᾶσαν τὴν γῆν, ἣν ὤμοσεν δοῦναι τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν, καὶ κατεκληρονόμησαν αὐτὴν καὶ κατῴκησαν ἐν αὐτῇ.

Jos_21:44 WEB  Yahweh gave them rest all around, according to all that he swore to their fathers. Not a man of all their enemies stood before them. Yahweh delivered all their enemies into their hand.

Jos_21:44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, as He swore to their fathers; not one of all their enemies maintained his ground against them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hands.

Jos_21:44  καὶ κατέπαυσεν αὐτοὺς κύριος κυκλόθεν, καθότι ὤμοσεν τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν· οὐκ ἀνέστη οὐθεὶς κατενώπιον αὐτῶν ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἐχθρῶν αὐτῶν· πάντας τοὺς ἐχθροὺς αὐτῶν παρέδωκεν κύριος εἰς τὰς χεῖρας αὐτῶν.

 

 

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Gradual Spiritual Warfare

10/11/17

 

Deu_7:22 WEB  Yahweh your God will cast out those nations before you by little and little: you may not consume them at once, lest the animals of the field increase on you.

Deu_7:22 LB  And the Lord your God shall consume these nations before you by little and little: you shall not be able to consume them speedily, lest the land become desert, and the wild beasts of the field be multiplied against you.

Deu_7:22  καὶ καταναλώσει κύριος ὁ θεός σου τὰ ἔθνη ταῦτα ἀπὸ προσώπου σου κατὰ μικρὸν μικρόν· οὐ δυνήσῃ ἐξαναλῶσαι αὐτοὺς τὸ τάχος, ἵνα μὴ γένηται ἡ γῆ ἔρημος καὶ πληθυνθῇ ἐπὶ σὲ τὰ θηρία τὰ ἄγρια.

Deu_7:23 WEB  But Yahweh your God will deliver them up before you, and will confuse them with a great confusion, until they be destroyed.

Deu_7:23 And the Lord your God shall deliver them into your hands, and you shall destroy them with a great destruction, until you have utterly destroyed them.

Deu_7:23  καὶ παραδώσει αὐτοὺς κύριος ὁ θεός σου εἰς τὰς χεῖράς σου καὶ ἀπολέσει αὐτοὺς ἀπωλείᾳ μεγάλῃ, ἕως ἂν ἐξολεθρεύσῃ αὐτούς,

Deu_7:24 WEB  He will deliver their kings into your hand, and you shall make their name to perish from under the sky: there shall no man be able to stand before you, until you have destroyed them.

Deu_7:24 And He shall deliver their kings into your hands, and you shall destroy their name from that place; none shall stand up in opposition before you, until you have utterly destroyed them.

Deu_7:24  καὶ παραδώσει τοὺς βασιλεῖς αὐτῶν εἰς τὰς χεῖρας ὑμῶν, καὶ ἀπολεῖται τὸ ὄνομα αὐτῶν ἐκ τοῦ τόπου ἐκείνου· οὐκ ἀντιστήσεται οὐδεὶς κατὰ πρόσωπόν σου, ἕως ἂν ἐξολεθρεύσῃς αὐτούς.

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NT Apocrypha Explanations of Demonization

7/9/99 (fri*); 3/4/17; 3/6/17 (recompiled)

[* original title(s): may be insight.wps; Early Church; may be insight -- may be wisdom -- .wps]

 

Clementine Homilies > Homily 9

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/080809.htm

 

 

 

Chapter IX.-How Demons Get Power Over Men.

 

 

 

 

 

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Defining Evil Spirits

 

Superman & Super Heros

9/21/14; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

http://earlychristianfellowship.org/?page_id=7385

 

 

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Enduring in Spiritual Warfare

1/8/17

 

Exo_23:29 spw -- Rom_16:20; 1Pe_5:10

 

 

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Passive vs. Aggressive Resistance

Other date(s); 8/20/16

On one hand: all you got to do is stand -- Armor of God

On the other hand, Resistance includes aggressive attack (best defense is a good offence)

Church People Often Assume Passive Resistance, but this is not the idea

“Spiritual resistance” does not mean shallow and simple, gritting your teeth

Examples of aggressive resistance: 2Ch_20:12; Act_13:8; Psa_17:8

Just stand your ground: Heb_12:4; Job_41:11

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Amor of God

There is a shield, a sword, and that’s just the beginning!

 

The gates of hell will not prevail against Jesus’ called-out-Assembly

·        this is not passive

·        in this description, “gates” are not hopping off their hinges to go attack the camp of God

·        This shows that the righteous terrorize evil so much that even when they think they have a safe retreat by running back into their city, their gates cannot keep them protected against the aggressive and terrorizing attack of the righteous

 

OT Blessings: may you have/posses the gates of your enemies

 

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How to Get Out Of A Rut

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#GetOutOfARut

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#MidPointReview

Effective Re-Connection

Swiftly / Quickly Getting Re-Connected

Getting swiftly back "on"

8/6/16-8/7/16; …8/14/16; 8/19/16-8/21/16 (3 main days of labor and initial presentation); …8/28/16

 

Structure Review

Wife remembered the structure and considered it very practical for those who heard what we were saying.

Mid-Point Review

8/22/16-8/23/16; 8/26/16

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#MidPointReview

 

Intro: A Teaching to Improve Spiritual Warfare

This is A Mini-Help & Orderly Teaching that Can Make Warfare Much Swifter than You Thought

8/6/16-8/7/16

 

Background Nature of This Teaching

·        On One Hand: This is like a mini-Spiritual-Warfare in a nutshell.

·        On the Other Hand: For the sake of particularity, we are not necessarily covering all the vital ground needed from the whole Spiritual Warfare teaching/realm

·        I could wish that I could have taught everyone these vital principles by example a long time ago (which might have been the ideal of how these things should be taught by default), but now, by teaching in this way I am giving you a chance to believe me first, and I am determined in this occasion to redeem the situation to teach these needful things (weapons) in the way of an orderly memorial, so that if you do take occasion to believe, you can also now more effectively teach others in these strengths as well. (The ideal did not originally happen, but now we hope to make the redemption of it even bigger than it would have originally been at the beginning.)

 

Goal: No Complacency!

Get Zealous for Spiritual Warfare!

·        Don’t let spiritual ruts endure.

·        By far, zeal/indignation is the greatest need in spiritual warfare -- although that is not the main thing we are talking about here.

·        Be sure to tend fire and add faith-zeal to the basic helps we are giving here

·        Take care of things

 

Wife Said

·        ‘Zeal and indignation are the main needs for spiritual warfare’, but make sure that you are not jealous for the ‘wrong things’, because if you are, then ‘you will be disconnected’.

·        The spiritual realm is very meticulous, and at some point we have got to get this thing right.

8/22/16-8/23/16; 8/26/16

 

Examples of Ruts You Might Have Been Stuck In

10/2/16

 

·        Fear/anxiety

·        Unforgiveness

·        Discouragements

·        Dull aches of feeling guilty / worthless / like a failure

·        Can you think of others?

 

Learning Objective: You Can Do More than You’ve Though

·        Recovery is Closer At Hand than you Thought -- As long as You Know the Truth & Believe.

·        You do not have to stay down / let you attitude / actions be affected as much as it feels like you have to.

·        While some seasons might be harder than others, and you may have other years of consolation, the little battles you fight on a day to day and week to week basis do not have to keep you in a rut every time you turn around.

·        Seasons of good and seasons of bad both have battles / potential ruts, and you do not have to stay stuck in them whenever they might come along.

·        It might sometimes take many hours to get out of a rut, but that’s better than being stuck for many years.

·        As long as some basic fundamental goods are in place, you can recover and get out of a rut and get re-connected to the truth much swifter than you thought.

 

Prerequisites for Swift Recovery/Vitalization

8/6/16; 8/19/16; 8/21/16; 9/18/16

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

 

Truth & FaithQuick Summary of Recovery Pre-Requisites

·        (1) Orthodoxy/Correct Doctrine/Truth

·        (2) Faith -- Normal/unpolluted, operating/active lively/loving

 

DAP Notes

·        Everywhere you are disconnected, you do not have truth somewhere.

·        Nerve mind the foolish heresy you’ve been taught. You CANNOT have correct doctrine and an empty heart.

·        When you are disconnected you should be listening to what you believe because disconnectedness is a symptom of false doctrine.

·        This can happen amongst us, you should be listening to yourself and others for falsehood

·        If you are actually saying everything correctly, then you should quickly add faith and zeal towards that least you allow deception to enter in (i.e. Jas_1:22-25).

 

Despite the countless lopsided counterfeits*, you need: (1) correct facts, and, (2) an eager heart toward those true realities in order to live. (“1” is your apprehension of knowledge, and, “2” is your response to that knowledge.)

 

* Lopsided Counterfeits include: pseudo-conservatives/fundamentalists (ex. Calvinists -- who act like they care about “doctrine”) and liberals (who act like sincerity is all that matters.)

 

Who Needs Integrity to Do Spiritual Warfare?

·        You do not have to be true to throw out demons (from yourself or others), but,

·        You do need to be true to keep them out, and,

·        You do need truth to get out of a real moral rut / recover / connect / re-connect. -- that’s what we are talking about first here…

 

You don’t necessarily have to understand all truth but what you actually think you know needs to be true in order to get out of a rut.

 

The heretics rut is happiness vs unhappiness, but our rut is truth vs. non-truth (or, being really connected vs. not being connected).

 

Note: Powerful heretics are always in a constant moral rut, they just don’t care that they are writhing in the same things we mourn over. Their consciences are so seared* they can’t feel any problem with living in a cesspool, but even if we suspect just a hint of their glutted filth, we are in pain and grief. When they refer to getting out of a challenge, all they need is sugar and entertainment to recover and feel good again, but (in great contrast) we need truth to get out of any of our ruts.

 

[* Seared (i.e. Lack of Integrity)

1Ti_4:2 YLT  in hypocrisy speaking lies [ψευδολόγων], ·being seared [κεκαυστηριασμένωνG2743] ·in their own conscience [τὴν ἰδίαν συνείδησιν],

1Ti_4:2 WEB  through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron;

1Ti_4:2 CAB  speaking lies in hypocrisy, having been seared with a hot iron as to their own conscience,

1Ti_4:2  ἐν ὑποκρίσει ψευδολόγων, κεκαυστηριασμένων τὴν ἰδίαν συνείδησιν,

 

(A) Strong’s & WS on G2545

St: “καίω kaiō kah'-yo

Apparently a primary verb; to set on fire, that is, kindle or (by implication) consume: - burn, light.”

WS: “To burn, and the mid. kaíomai, to be burned.

(I) Causative: to make to burn, to kindle, light, e.g., a fire, lamp. Pass. part. kaiómenos, burning, flaming…

(II) Trans.: to burn, i.e., to consume with fire…”

 

(B) Strong’s & WS on G2743

St: “Καυτηριάζω kautēriazō kow-tay-ree-ad'-zo

From a derivative of G2545; to brand (“cauterize”), that is, (by implication) to render unsensitive (figuratively): - sear with a hot iron.”

WS: “καυτηριάζω

kautēriázō; fut. kautēriásō, from kautḗrion (n.f.), a red-hot iron, which is from kaíō (G2545), to burn. To cauterize, brand with a hot iron; used in the pass. in 1Ti_4:2, meaning branded or having the marks of their guilt burnt in upon their own consciences, making them seared or hardened in their consciences…”]

 

You Don’t Have to be Stuck Like I was

·        I did not have all of these perfect helps reinforced on my weak and vulnerable soul when I was starting out.

·        Although I did much warfare, I was stuck for the vast majority of 3 years.

·        If you all learn from me, you do not have to be stuck like I was.

 

The Orthodoxy of Harshness & Kindness Which Breaks Free from Ruts

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

·        Faith often means getting zealous -- and we are talking about doing that for the right things (i.e. in this case: the right Harshness &/or Kindness).

·        Zeal for the wrong things gets you disconnected.

·        Since zeal often = faith, we need zeal-faith for the true/orthodox harshness for the rich & kindness for the poor, including yourself & others.

·        Orthodoxy = obeying harsh (zealous) truth against luxury, but also obeying good/consoling/gentle/powerful approval for the poor, and likewise,

·        Unorthodoxy / wrong things / bad zeal / untruth = going light on the rich and/or withholding goodness/justice from the poor/humble (both sins are virtually equated as an abomination before God: Pro_17:15; Rom_11:22).

·        I stayed stuck for my first 3 years because of the seething injustice/condemnation against the poverty/innocence of my soul (done by Balaam & evil impostures).

·        Most people are blocked from truth because they really do love/like luxury in their deepest heart.

·        The remnant of weak righteous ones can also get blocked from truth whenever they might believe unreasonable/untrue harshness against themselves.

·        In any case, whether lacking harshness for the rich or lacking kindness for the poor, lack of perfection in your concept of Orthodoxy/Truth goes a long way at keeping you disconnected from the Perfect Truth.

·        Do you see how lacking harshness or lacking kindness, for yourself or others, can easily disqualify you from the Pre-Requisites for getting out of a rut?

·        Are you in a dis-connected rut? It is usually because of lack of truth (Harshness &/or Kindness), &/or lack of zeal-faith toward that truth.

·        Once you got your settings right (orthodox), all you need to do then is push with all your zeal in prayer to get somewhere.

·        Getting out of a rut requires justice / truth / orthodoxy / the full sentence of what God is saying -- for yourself and others.

·        Repent of indulging vanities of flattery / cheap sugar / justifying filthy perversion / saying the flesh is saved / knows or perceives anything true -- toward yourself and others.

·        Repent of unjust harshness toward the poor / flesh judgements / heretical condemnations / phantom guilts / etc. -- toward yourself and others (if indeed, any are poor).

·        Especially because of weaknesses, let us all be diligent/careful/thorough/serious/ultra-sensitive about repenting!

·        No false doctrine / heresies / pollutions / disqualifications are allowed.

·        If you can just get all the bad unorthodoxy / heresy / false doctrine / lack of zeal / unbelief / accidental sins out, a very simple/poor an innocent creature which has hope, faith, and love can often simply endure and do the truth to break free of a rut, and run into life.

 

Rom_11:22 LB  Behold [ἴδε] then [οὖν] the kindness [χρηστότητα – favorable/useful/kindness] and severity [ἀποτομίαν – lit. cut-from(off)-ness; think: severity severs (i.e. cuts)] of God: upon those that fell, severity [ἀποτομίαν – cut-from(off)-ness]; but upon you, kindness [χρηστότητα], if [it may be] [ἐὰν] you continue in [ἐπιμείνῃς – remain upon] His kindness [χρηστότητι]. Otherwise [ἐπεὶ] you also shall be cut off [out] [ἐκκοπήσῃ].

Rom_11:22 Greek  ἴδε οὖν χρηστότητα καὶ ἀποτομίαν Θεοῦ, ἐπὶ μὲν τοὺς πεσόντας ἀποτομίαν, ἐπὶ δὲ σὲ χρηστότητα, ἐὰν ἐπιμείνῃς τῇ χρηστότητι· ἐπεὶ καὶ σὺ ἐκκοπήσῃ.

 

Jud_1:22-23 LB  And [(a)men/indeed/truly (μὲν)] have mercy [ἐλεεῖτε] on some [οὓς], ·making a distinction [διακρινόμενοι];  23  but others [οὓς] save [σώζετε] with fear, snatching [ἁρπάζοντες] them out of the fire, hating even the ·[inner] garment [χιτῶνα – i.e. shirt, etc.] having been stained [ἐσπιλωμένον] by [ἀπὸ – from] the flesh.

Jud_1:22-23 Greek  καὶ οὓς μὲν ἐλεεῖτε διακρινόμενοι,  23  οὓς δὲ ἐν φόβῳ σώζετε, ἐκ πυρὸς ἁρπάζοντες, μισοῦντες καὶ τὸν ἀπὸ τῆς σαρκὸς ἐσπιλωμένον χιτῶνα.

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[Reminder Side Note: we can talk about how loving and patient the Creator is, and we can talk about how stern He is, and how He has insisted on the required necessity of truth, and neither of these things competes or contradicts each other as long as we are speaking in truth.

For more, See: Absolute Truth]

 

Summaries of Dangers for the Rich & Poor to Guard Against in Fighting Falsehood/Unorthodoxy

8/6/16; 8/20/16; 8/20/16; 8/20/16

Applying some of the Prerequisites we previously went over to the Need for Repentance

 

·         Temptations/Dangers For The Rich (Who are in Probation):
Believing good about yourself / your soul / your flesh that is lawless/evil/defiled/deceitful

·         Dangers For The Poor (Who Are Falsely Accused):
Not believing in goodness / heaven's testimony about yourself

·         Truth is always better / kinder yoke / more relieving than falsehood for those who believe.

 

 

Recognizing False Doctrine -- Review

8/22/16-8/23/16; 8/26/16

 

Disconnection & Doctrine

When you are disconnected, check your doctrine.

Disconnection is a symptom of false doctrine.

 

False Doctrine is Not So Obvious

False doctrine might not be as obvious as saying “sin is Ok”.

 

False doctrine might slip in as subtle as this:

·        “I know the Bible is true” [√]

·        “I really need help” [√]

·        “I’ve just messed up so many times this week” [x]

 

You cannot be reconnected to the truth through falsehood, even if that falsehood looks like humility / the most humble thing to do.

 

Reminder-Summaries of Kindness & Severity -- Prerequisites Review

8/22/16-8/23/16; 8/26/16-8/27/16; 8/28/16

“Behold the kindness and severity of God” -- and remember the dynamic of that with poverty and riches…

Use that Orthodoxy to fine-tune impeccable spiritualness to get reconnected and get on…

 

Remember the potent stories we told about how not having the prerequisites can stop you from getting out of a rut even if you do all of the other right things in spiritual warfare.

 

Are you in a rut? -- you need truth to get out.

Where do you start?

Are you obeying the Bible to look at the kindness and severity of God?

One very important place to start is to check your level of truth when it comes to kindness and severity.

 

Goal: Orthodox Repentance for the Rich & Poor

The Rich tend to excel in Phantom Innocence (i.e. outsourcing responsibility & sanctifying abominations), and the poor are often vulnerable to the attacks of phantom guilt. Let each repent away from their correlating temptations.

Orthodoxy for the rich is to ‘blame yourself’ (Pro_28:13 LXX), but repentance for the poor means it’s time to receive mercy, love, kindness, truth, and life, and remember to only repent in ways that do not cooperate with phantom guilt.

 

Pro_24:24 WEB  He who says to the wicked, "You are righteous;" peoples shall curse him, and nations shall abhor him--

Pro_24:24 LB He that says of the ungodly [ἀσεβῆ], “He is righteous,” shall be cursed by peoples, and hateful among the nations.

Pro_24:24  ὁ εἰπὼν τὸν ἀσεβῆ Δίκαιός ἐστιν, ἐπικατάρατος λαοῖς ἔσται καὶ μισητὸς εἰς ἔθνη·

Pro_24:25 WEB  but it will go well with those who convict the guilty, and a rich blessing will come on them.

Pro_24:25 But they that reprove [ἐλέγχοντες] him shall appear more excellent, and blessing shall come upon them;

Pro_24:25  οἱ δὲ ἐλέγχοντες βελτίους φανοῦνται, ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς δὲ ἥξει εὐλογία ἀγαθή·

Pro_24:26 WEB  An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.

Pro_24:26 and men will kiss the lips that answer well.

Pro_24:26  χείλη δὲ φιλήσουσιν ἀποκρινόμενα λόγους ἀγαθούς.

 

Pro_17:15 WEB  He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the righteous, both of them alike are an abomination to Yahweh.

Pro_17:15 LB He that pronounces the unjust just, and the just unjust, is unclean and abominable before God.

Pro_17:15  ὃς δίκαιον κρίνει τὸν ἄδικον, ἄδικον δὲ τὸν δίκαιον, ἀκάθαρτος καὶ βδελυκτὸς παρὰ θεῷ.

 

DAP

It seems like you can't do one (example: justifying the wicked) without eventually doing the other (condemning the righteous), so stay far from all injustices to begin with.

 

The great ambition when seeking truth for the poor is to maintain goodness and successfully target and repent of the actual problems and not to cooperate and reinforce the phantom guilt promoted by those very same problems.

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Especially for the poor, refer to the repentances (which are the most likely needs) we discussed in Phantom Guilt, esp. Some Real Things that You Can Directly Repent of

>> Pop: rep

See: Phantom Guilt vs. Agreeing with God

12/6/15

Phantom-Guilt-vs-Agreeing-with-God--PART-1--12.06.15.mp3

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Repent/Repentance.html#PhantomGuilt -- this is currently hidden

 

DAP Notes

·        Faith is accessible when you repent of the right things, but if you try to repent of the wrong things faith will not be accessible.

·        The things you can't resolve are unresolved because there is not faith, you are not addressing the right things to truly address the issue. Faith without truth is superstition. As soon as you repent and believe that you are going to get forgiven, you're forgiven.

·        Why do people not believe? It’s mainly because of untruth. If you can get untruth out everything really, potently works!

·        The easiest way to tell whether you are poor or rich is how you respond to good nourishing food. You should watch yourself, are you compatible with the truth that you hear? Are you bearing good fruit? Food is readily compatible with poor, beggarly, hungry people.

 

I cannot sufficiently express how vital and changing it has been to finally increase in knowing how to actually repent of the right things…

 

“Correct Doctrine” is Despised by Our Culture, Which is Why We Must Make Much of it to be Saved

Other dates; 8/28/16; Other date; 9/4/16; 9/11/16 (1st Bible study after having a baby! :+)

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#DoctrineDespised

Rut-Part-3--9.11.16.mp3

 

True Doctrine Is Despised, But it is So Practically Needed!

 

Truth is not old fashion it is pre-old fashion its original fashion it is true fashion and it is the most practical of all. It is the only fashion that will actually get you out of a rut.

 

A Hateful Pagan French Unitarian preacher said:

'Purity of heart and life is more important than correctness of opinion,' to which Dean Doumergue (reportedly another French preacher) answered more “shrewdly” saying, ‘Healing is more important than the remedy; but without the remedy there would be no healing.’

 

We have a blended culture of enlightenment and romanticism (both of which are liberal), so that we praise “education” because we are so “enlightened” (with darkness) and then we praise sincerity without truth because of goofy romanticism. (But modern “education” just makes you more skillful and strong with independent knowledge, even if none of it is true.)

 

It is very interesting how today’s age minimizes “theology”/truth so much, despite the very urgent and practical fact that you actually cannot connect and get anywhere spiritually or get free without knowing the correct truth. So who is actually promoting “love” and compassionate help to actually meet the needs of desperate humanity in this case?

For example, if you wanted to get out of depression but could not help but feel the actual reality of sin and death, then virtually all counselors and psychologists would be the most hateful people in the world to you.

 

Incorrect doctrine / false theology can leave you vulnerable to actually sin against people, and especially against God, which is why it is actually very practical and urgent to get truth so you can live.

 

When you believe things that are not true you are more likely to hurt people (including God), that’s why you need to urgently get truth

 

Your level of false/untrue doctrine is directly equal to your inability to truly love people or connect to the Clean and Monotheistic God.

 

[Our plastic/indulgent culture praises shallow people for being shallow, and feeling good/entertained/helped/healed when other rich people make them feel satisfied and satiated.]

 

 

Our culture praises putting on a bandage and pretending that the disease does not exist. There will always be Columbine shooting because there will be some people that will realize that there is no hope with the liberal answer to life. Columbine shooting is a honest and reasonable response to….

 

Obviously, the flesh of our liberal culture might well squirm at this, but Jesus is very clear:

 

Joh_8:29-32 CAB  And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, because I always do the things pleasing to Him."  30  While He spoke these words, many believed in Him.  31  Then Jesus said to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you abide in My word, truly you are My disciples.  32  And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

Joh_8:29-32 Greek  καὶ ὁ πέμψας με μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ ἐστιν· οὐκ ἀφῆκέ με μόνον ὁ πατήρ, ὅτι ἐγὼ τὰ ἀρεστὰ αὐτῷ ποιῶ πάντοτε.  30  Ταῦτα αὐτοῦ λαλοῦντος πολλοὶ ἐπίστευσαν εἰς αὐτόν.  31  ῎Ελεγεν οὖν ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς πρὸς τοὺς πεπιστευκότας αὐτῷ ᾿Ιουδαίους· ἐὰν ὑμεῖς μείνητε ἐν τῷ λόγῳ τῷ ἐμῷ, ἀληθῶς μαθηταί μού ἐστε.  32  καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν, καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.

 

Joh_8:36 CAB  Therefore if the Son sets you free, you will be truly free.

Joh_8:36  ἐὰν οὖν ὁ υἱὸς ὑμᾶς ἐλευθερώσῃ, ὄντως ἐλεύθεροι ἔσεσθε.

 

Notice also that orthopraxy (v. Joh_8:29, Joh_8:31) is absolutely fused with actual orthodoxy / knowing truth (v. Joh_8:31-32).

 

Jas_1:22, etc. – Don’t be hearers only, so deceiving yourselves

2Pe_1:8, etc. – How to not be barren or unfruitful in the knowledge of truth

 

Remember: If you know truth, put action to it real quick.

Example: if you know you should be zealous/do warfare and don’t, you might get stuck in a rut of untruth.

 

So knowing truth is important, including the “action” part of it.

 

If it’s in the Bible but not Supported By Our Culture = Major on Supporting it

The negligence/pessimism of today is one of the very reasons why we should make much of Truth:

(1) It is supported in the Bible.

(2) It is mostly minimalized today. Therefore,

(3) We should champion it as one of the main answers / Gospel proclamations we need to be saved (esp. so evil rich enculturated people will not even think to get in without forsaking all).

 

Truth is Exclusive

·        Every time you try to enter in by another way, you will not be able to enter clean Divinity.

·        Incorrect/untrue/non-factual beliefs will block/keep you from the True/clean/Orthodox/Perfect Spirit, esp. whenever you zealously hold onto un-truth.

 

Debriefing After Zeal

·        Have you been zealous / emotionally moved toward anything today?

·        Debrief every day in prayer, and always carefully repent if there is ever the slightest chance of being off.

·        Repentance for unknown things is very important (as seen later).

 

Confessions of Justice & Power

Extended Prerequisites

Other dates; 8/20/16-8/21/16; 8/26/16; 8/28/16; 9/4/16; 9/11/16; 9/27/16; 5/26/17 (The Tongue is a Rutter & Out of the Overflow of the Heart);

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

>> Lov

>> See: ROW | NOW?

 

·          Truth & Faith are the main prerequisite of getting out of a rut (that we have gone over)

·          Nevertheless, for the sake of establishing basic principles to build on, we are still in a prerequisite posture of laying some basic principles before going into the heart of getting out of ruts

·          You would think we might already know these things, but we are still going to be methodic to make sure we all get everything and, this time, we hope nothing will fall through the cracks / get missed.

 

Disclaimer: God Can Hear Silent Prayers

9/4/16

Most church people should all know that God can hear the prayers of the heart

·        1Sa_16:7 WEB  …man looks at the outward appearance, but Yahweh looks at the heart."

·        1Sa_16:7 CAB  …man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.”

·        Neh_2:4 – Nehemiah “prayed to the God of heaven” (CAB) in his heart while standing before the king

·        Pray without ceasing…

·        >> DAPs: can you find us some more references?

 

Notice the context that essentially compelled Nehemiah to ‘pray in his heart’.

Just because God can hear heart prayers does not mean that fruit from your mouth is unnecessary.

 

The Tongue is a Rutter

5/26/17

 

Jas_3:3 CAB  Consider that we put bits in horses' mouths that they may obey us, and we guide their whole body.

Jas_3:3  εἰ δὲ τῶν ἵππων τοὺς χαλινοὺς εἰς τὰ στόματα βάλλομεν πρὸς τὸ πείθεσθαι αὐτοὺς ἡμῖν, καὶ ὅλον τὸ σῶμα αὐτῶν μετάγομεν.

Jas_3:4 Consider also the ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the impulse of the pilot desires.

Jas_3:4  ἰδοὺ καὶ τὰ πλοῖα, τηλικαῦτα ὄντα καὶ ὑπὸ σκληρῶν ἀνέμων ἐλαυνόμενα, μετάγεται ὑπὸ ἐλαχίστου πηδαλίου ὅπου ἂν ἡ ὁρμὴ τοῦ εὐθύνοντος βούληται.

>> TSK

 

 

Out of the Overflow of the Heart, the Mouth Speaks

5/26/17

 

In one sense the tongue directs the whole body (including the heart, as seen below under good confessions)

In another sense the heart determines what ends what comes out of the mouth.

 

Mat_12:33 CAB  "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten; for a tree is known by its fruit.

Mat_12:33  ῎Η ποιήσατε τὸ δένδρον καλὸν, καὶ τὸν καρπὸν αὐτοῦ καλόν, ἢ ποιήσατε τὸ δένδρον σαπρὸν, καὶ τὸν καρπὸν αὐτοῦ σαπρόν· ἐκ γὰρ τοῦ καρποῦ τὸ δένδρον γινώσκεται.

Mat_12:34  Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Mat_12:34  γεννήματα ἐχιδνῶν, πῶς δύνασθε ἀγαθὰ λαλεῖν πονηροὶ ὄντες; ἐκ γὰρ τοῦ περισσεύματος τῆς καρδίας τὸ στόμα λαλεῖ.

Mat_12:35 A good man out of his good treasure brings forth good things, and an evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth evil things.

Mat_12:35  ὁ ἀγαθὸς ἄνθρωπος ἐκ τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ θησαυροῦ ἐκβάλλει ἀγαθά, καὶ ὁ πονηρὸς ἄνθρωπος ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ θησαυροῦ ἐκβάλλει πονηρά.

Mat_12:36 But I say to you, that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

Mat_12:36  λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶν ῥῆμα ἀργὸν ὃ ἐὰν λαλήσωσιν οἱ ἄνθρωποι, ἀποδώσουσι περὶ αὐτοῦ λόγον ἐν ἡμέρᾳ κρίσεως·

Mat_12:37 For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned."

Mat_12:37  ἐκ γὰρ τῶν λόγων σου δικαιωθήσῃ καὶ ἐκ τῶν λόγων σου καταδικασθήσῃ.

 

Luk_6:45 CAB   A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

Luk_6:45  ὁ ἀγαθὸς ἄνθρωπος ἐκ τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ θησαυροῦ τῆς καρδίας αὐτοῦ προφέρει τὸ ἀγαθόν, καὶ ὁ πονηρὸς ἄνθρωπος ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ θησαυροῦ τῆς καρδίας αὐτοῦ προφέρει τὸ πονηρόν· ἐκ γὰρ τοῦ περισσεύματος τῆς καρδίας λαλεῖ τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ.

>> Sync: SOM > LO: DO | SPI

 

Note: before Luke 6 & Matthew 12, the context is what kind of tree are you?

 

>> TSK

 

 

The Fruit of The Lips

Other date; 8/28/16; 9/11/16

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

 

There are at least 4 or 5 references to “the fruit of the lips” in the Bible.

I found 3 or 4 in the Old Testament (Pro_12:14; Pro_18:20; (Pro_31:31); Hos_14:2) & 1 in the New Testament (Heb_13:15):

 

Pro_12:14 WEB  A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth. The work of a man's hands [same as Pro_31:31 MT *] shall be rewarded to him.

Pro_12:14 LB  The soul of a man shall be filled with good from the fruits of his mouth, and the recompense of his lips [same as Pro_31:31 LXX *] shall be given to him.

Pro_12:14  ἀπὸ καρπῶν στόματος ψυχὴ ἀνδρὸς πλησθήσεται ἀγαθῶν, ἀνταπόδομα δὲ χειλέων αὐτοῦ δοθήσεται αὐτῷ.

Pro_12:15 WEB  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but he who is wise listens to counsel.

Pro_12:15 The ways of fools are right in their own eyes, but a wise man heeds counsel.

Pro_12:15  ὁδοὶ ἀφρόνων ὀρθαὶ ἐνώπιον αὐτῶν, εἰσακούει δὲ συμβουλίας σοφός.

 

[* Pro_31:31 WEB (MT)  Give her of the fruit of her hands!...; LB (LXX): Give her of the fruit of her lips…]

 

Pro_18:20 WEB  A man's stomach is filled with the fruit of his mouth. With the harvest of his lips he is satisfied.

Pro_18:20 LB  A man fills his belly with the fruits of his mouth, and he shall be satisfied with the fruits of his lips.

Pro_18:20  ἀπὸ καρπῶν στόματος ἀνὴρ πίμπλησιν κοιλίαν αὐτοῦ, ἀπὸ δὲ καρπῶν χειλέων αὐτοῦ ἐμπλησθήσεται.

Pro_18:21 WEB  Death and life are in the power of the tongue; those who love it will eat its fruit.

Pro_18:21 LB  Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and they that rule it shall eat the fruits thereof.

Pro_18:21  θάνατος καὶ ζωὴ ἐν χειρὶ γλώσσης, οἱ δὲ κρατοῦντες αὐτῆς ἔδονται τοὺς καρποὺς αὐτῆς.

 

Pro_31:31 WEB Give her of the fruit of her hands! Let her works praise her in the gates!

Pro_31:31 CAB Give her of the fruit of her lips; and let her husband be praised in the gates.

Pro_31:31  δότε αὐτῇ ἀπὸ καρπῶν χειρῶν αὐτῆς, καὶ αἰνείσθω ἐν πύλαις ὁ ἀνὴρ αὐτῆς.

 

Hos_14:2 WEB  Take words with you, and return to Yahweh. Tell him, "Forgive all our sins, and accept that which is good: so we offer our lips like bulls.

Hos_14:2 LB  Take with you words, and turn to the Lord your God. Speak to Him, that you may not receive the reward of unrighteousness, but that you may receive good things; and we will render in return the fruit of our lips.

Hos_14:2  (14:3) λάβετε μεθ᾿ ἑαυτῶν λόγους καὶ ἐπιστράφητε πρὸς κύριον τὸν θεὸν ὑμῶν· εἴπατε αὐτῷ ὅπως μὴ λάβητε ἀδικίαν καὶ λάβητε ἀγαθά, καὶ ἀνταποδώσομεν καρπὸν χειλέων ἡμῶν.

 

Luk_15:17-18 – Prodigal son took words with him

 

Heb_13:15 LB  Therefore through Him let us continually [διαπαντος] offer up a sacrifice [θυσιαν] of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, confessing to His name.

Heb_13:15  δι αυτου Aουν TSBουν αναφερωμεν θυσιαν αινεσεως BAδια BAπαντος TSδιαπαντος τω θεω BAτουτ BAεστιν TSτουτεστιν καρπον χειλεων ομολογουντων τω ονοματι αυτου

Heb_13:16 But do not forget the doing of good and generosity [κοινωνίας], for with such sacrifices God is well pleased._

Heb_13:16  τῆς δὲ εὐποιΐας καὶ κοινωνίας μὴ ἐπιλανθάνεσθε· τοιαύταις γὰρ θυσίαις εὐαρεστεῖται ὁ Θεός.

 

We Got to Finally Get Rational And Realize Why Confessions Are Needed

Other date; 8/28/16

 

·        At some point we got to get it through our thick hearts that we got to verbalize almost every important thing, much as if God didn’t already know it.

·        We got to realize that we are not as successful at silently doing/thinking/wanting good as we think we are.

·        God’s omniscience (quality of knowing everything) does not contradict/negate/compete with our need to proactively acknowledge the truth.

·        God’s omniscience, or our discovery of God’s omniscience, does not end our moral need to use our mouth.

·        The Blessed Creator knew everything before He made man’s mouth.

·        When He made man’s mouth, this did not contradict/frustrate/compete with the fact that God already knew everything, but in knowing everything, God still made man’s mouth to talk with Him.

·        Before man ever talked with any other person, God made man’s mouth to talk with God.

·        It was not “telepathy” that God primarily designed, but a mouth to talk.

 

In fact, one of God’s greatest communications was to Moses, and it says,

 

Num_12:8 WEB  With him I will speak mouth to mouth, even plainly, and not in riddles; and he shall see Yahweh's form. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant, against Moses?"

Num_12:8 LB I will speak plainly to him, mouth to mouth, and not in riddles; and he has seen the glory of the Lord; and why were you not afraid to speak against My servant Moses?”

Num_12:8  στόμα κατὰ στόμα λαλήσω αὐτῷ, ἐν εἴδει καὶ οὐ δι᾿ αἰνιγμάτων, καὶ τὴν δόξαν κυρίου εἶδεν· καὶ διὰ τί οὐκ ἐφοβήθητε καταλαλῆσαι κατὰ τοῦ θεράποντός μου Μωυσῆ;

 

[Exo_33:11 WEB  Yahweh spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. He turned again into the camp, but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, didn't depart out of the Tent.

Exo_33:11 LB And the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as if one should speak to his friend; and he retired into the camp: but his servant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart from the tabernacle.

Exo_33:11  καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν ἐνώπιος ἐνωπίῳ, ὡς εἴ τις λαλήσει πρὸς τὸν ἑαυτοῦ φίλον. καὶ ἀπελύετο εἰς τὴν παρεμβολήν, ὁ δὲ θεράπων Ἰησοῦς υἱὸς Ναυη νέος οὐκ ἐξεπορεύετο ἐκ τῆς σκηνῆς.]

 

So though Moses knew things from God in his heart (Act_7:23-26*) and prophesied countless times, he still went away to meet and talk with God mouth-to-mouth as if talking with a warmly loved friend.

 

And if Moses and even God feel the need to talk to each other with their mouths, we are found shallow and hypocritical if we pretend to have no need to verbalize our prayers and make confessions with our mouths.

 

[* Act_7:23-25 CAB  Now when he had turned forty years old, it came into his heart [ἀνέβη ἐπὶ τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ] to look upon [ἐπισκέψασθαι] his brothers, the sons of Israel.  24  And seeing someone being wronged [ἀδικούμενον], he retaliated, and avenged [ἐποίησεν ἐκδίκησιν] him who was being oppressed [καταπονουμένῳ], and struck [πατάξας] the Egyptian.  25  For he supposed that his brothers understood [ἐνόμιζε δὲ συνιέναι τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ] that God was giving to them deliverance [σωτηρίαν – salvation] by [διὰ] his hand, but they did not understand [συνῆκαν].]

>> Dis | SpWa

 

There are obviously many more general things we could say about confessions, but we are seeking to focus on getting out of ruts…

 

What Are “Good Confessions”?

5/26/17

>> there have got to be lots more

 

Deu_26:3 WEB  You shall come to the priest who shall be in those days, and tell him, I profess this day to Yahweh your God, that I am come to the land which Yahweh swore to our fathers to give us.

Deu_26:3 LB And you shall come to the priest who shall be in those days, and you shall say to him, ‘I testify this day to the Lord my God, that I have come into the land which the Lord swore to our fathers to give to us.’

Deu_26:3  καὶ ἐλεύσῃ πρὸς τὸν ἱερέα, ὃς ἐὰν ᾖ ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ἐκείναις, καὶ ἐρεῖς πρὸς αὐτόν Ἀναγγέλλω σήμερον κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ μου ὅτι εἰσελήλυθα εἰς τὴν γῆν, ἣν ὤμοσεν κύριος τοῖς πατράσιν ἡμῶν δοῦναι ἡμῖν.

Deu_26:4 WEB  The priest shall take the basket out of your hand, and set it down before the altar of Yahweh your God.

Deu_26:4 And the priest shall take the basket out of your hands, and shall set it before the altar of the Lord your God.

Deu_26:4  καὶ λήμψεται ὁ ἱερεὺς τὸν κάρταλλον ἐκ τῶν χειρῶν σου καὶ θήσει αὐτὸν ἀπέναντι τοῦ θυσιαστηρίου κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου,

 

Deu_26:17 WEB  You have declared Yahweh this day to be your God, and that you would walk in his ways, and keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his ordinances, and listen to his voice:

Deu_26:17 LB  You have chosen God this day to be your God, and to walk in all His ways, and to observe His statutes and judgments, and to hearken to His voice.

Deu_26:17  τὸν θεὸν εἵλου σήμερον εἶναί σου θεὸν καὶ πορεύεσθαι ἐν ταῖς ὁδοῖς αὐτοῦ καὶ φυλάσσεσθαι τὰ δικαιώματα καὶ τὰ κρίματα αὐτοῦ καὶ ὑπακούειν τῆς φωνῆς αὐτοῦ·

Deu_26:18 WEB  and Yahweh has declared you this day to be a people for his own possession, as he has promised you, and that you should keep all his commandments;

Deu_26:18 And the Lord has chosen you this day, that you should be to Him a peculiar people, as He said, to keep His commands;

Deu_26:18  καὶ κύριος εἵλατό σε σήμερον γενέσθαι σε αὐτῷ λαὸν περιούσιον, καθάπερ εἶπέν σοι, φυλάσσειν πάσας τὰς ἐντολὰς αὐτοῦ

 

Isa_44:5 WEB  One will say, 'I am Yahweh's;' and another will be called by the name of Jacob; and another will write with his hand 'to Yahweh,' and honor the name of Israel."

Isa_44:5 LB  One shall say, ‘I am God's’; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall write with his hand, ‘I am God's,’ and shall call himself by the name of Israel.

Isa_44:5  οὗτος ἐρεῖ Τοῦ θεοῦ εἰμι, καὶ οὗτος βοήσεται ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματι Ιακωβ, καὶ ἕτερος ἐπιγράψει Τοῦ θεοῦ εἰμι, ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματι Ισραηλ.

 

>>Scrip:

>> Get: Matthew \/\//\/\

Luk_12:8 CAB  "Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God.

Luk_12:8  Λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν· πᾶς ὃς ἂν ὁμολογήσῃ ἐν ἐμοὶ ἔμπροσθεν τῶν ἀνθρώπων, καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ὁμολογήσει ἐν αὐτῷ ἔμπροσθεν τῶν ἀγγέλων τοῦ Θεοῦ·

Luk_12:9 But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

Luk_12:9  ὁ δὲ ἀρνησάμενός με ἐνώπιον τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἀπαρνηθήσεται ἐνώπιον τῶν ἀγγέλων τοῦ Θεοῦ.

 

Who do You Say that I Am?

Mat_16:13-20, etc.

Mar_8:29, etc.

>> verify / look up

 

Peter makes the, Divinely inspired, good confession of the real spiritual nature of whom Jesus is.

 

Rom_10:6 CAB  But the righteousness of faith says thus, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who shall ascend into heaven?' " (that is, to bring Christ down)

Rom_10:6  ἡ δὲ ἐκ πίστεως δικαιοσύνη οὕτω λέγει· μὴ εἴπῃς ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου, τίς ἀναβήσεται εἰς τὸν οὐρανόν; τοῦτ᾿ ἔστι Χριστὸν καταγαγεῖν·

Rom_10:7 or, " 'Who shall descend into the abyss?' " (that is, to bring up Christ from the dead).

Rom_10:7  ἤ τίς καταβήσεται εἰς τὴν ἄβυσσον; τοῦτ᾿ ἔστι Χριστὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν ἀναγαγεῖν.

Rom_10:8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we proclaim):

Rom_10:8  ἀλλὰ τί λέγει; ἐγγύς σου τὸ ῥῆμά ἐστιν, ἐν τῷ στόματί σου καὶ ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου· τοῦτ᾿ ἔστι τὸ ῥῆμα τῆς πίστεως ὃ κηρύσσομεν.

Rom_10:9  that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and you believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.

Rom_10:9  ὅτι ἐὰν ὁμολογήσῃς ἐν τῷ στόματί σου Κύριον ᾿Ιησοῦν, καὶ πιστεύσῃς ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου ὅτι ὁ Θεὸς αὐτὸν ἤγειρεν ἐκ νεκρῶν, σωθήσῃ·

Rom_10:10 For with the heart one believes resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

Rom_10:10  καρδίᾳ γὰρ πιστεύεται εἰς δικαιοσύνην, στόματι δὲ ὁμολογεῖται εἰς σωτηρίαν.

Rom_10:11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him shall not be put to shame."

Rom_10:11  λέγει γὰρ ἡ γραφή· πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ οὐ καταισχυνθήσεται.

Rom_10:12 For there is no difference between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord of all is rich to all who call upon Him.

Rom_10:12  οὐ γάρ ἐστι διαστολὴ ᾿Ιουδαίου τε καὶ ῞Ελληνος· ὁ γὰρ αὐτὸς Κύριος πάντων, πλουτῶν εἰς πάντας τοὺς ἐπικαλουμένους αὐτόν·

Rom_10:13 For "whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be saved."

Rom_10:13  πᾶς γὰρ ὃς ἂν ἐπικαλέσηται τὸ ὄνομα Κυρίου σωθήσεται.

 

 

 

1Ti_6:12 CAB Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold of eternal life, to which you were called and have confessed the good confession before many witnesses.

1Ti_6:12  ἀγωνίζου τὸν καλὸν ἀγῶνα τῆς πίστεως· ἐπιλαβοῦ τῆς αἰωνίου ζωῆς, εἰς ἣν καὶ ἐκλήθης καὶ ὡμολόγησας τὴν καλὴν ὁμολογίαν ἐνώπιον πολλῶν μαρτύρων.

1Ti_6:13  I charge you before God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate,

1Ti_6:13  παραγγέλλω σοι ἐνώπιον τοῦ Θεοῦ τοῦ ζῳογονοῦντος τὰ πάντα, καὶ Χριστοῦ ᾿Ιησοῦ τοῦ μαρτυρήσαντος ἐπὶ Ποντίου Πιλάτου τὴν καλὴν ὁμολογίαν,

1Ti_6:14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Ti_6:14  τηρῆσαί σε τὴν ἐντολὴν ἄσπιλον, ἀνεπίλημπτον μέχρι τῆς ἐπιφανείας τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ,

 

 

Good Confessions Are Essential for Justice

Other date(s); 8/28/16; 9/4/16

·        Your commitment to make a confession is an acknowledgement of your responsibility to establish a good relationship with the truth.

·        At the very heart-core of making a confession esp. in order to repent, is an acknowledgement of your responsibility for your moral status in the past, and a commitment to the faithfulness of doing justice right now in earnest determination to change.

·        We are seeking to make good confessions in order to do justice and gain eternal life. -- For example: Just as confessing together “Lord Jesus” [Rom_10:8-10] saves, so also confessing together our sins [1Jn_1:7-10] saves.

·        Almost all clean/orthodox power in your life comes by faith / righteousness / justice -- and that is so, so often directly equal to the truth that actually comes out of your mouth.

·        If you have done anything evil, one way or the other you absolutely have to make a justice statement of faith out of your mouth in hopes of flipping things back around to justice / righteousness / life.

·        Oh Rich Person: Vomit out / be repulsed by / abominate the vile and filthy perversions of wanting a fairy to come along and magically change you as you passively sit by without any responsibility or virtue.

·        I recognize a rich person when I give them my best and they walk away discourage. A Poor person knows how to suck nourishment out of garbage, and when I give them more than garbage and they are still discourage they are not poor but rich.

·        That religious/superstitious fairy tale is an evil/sinful way for you to justify your perversion and imagine that God has been at fault and your sin is not dirty enough to make you liable or in need of confessing and repenting.

·        We condemn/anathematize every bit of the luxury of non-responsibility.

·        You are responsible for everything about you that is morally off. (It goes without saying that this does not include “being born blind”, etc.)

·        You are responsible, through truth, repentance, and warfare, to get your soul morally on. (This is good news to the poor -who are rich in faith-, but this is a dreaded threat to the wicked who hate faith/truth/moral responsibility to perfect standards that condemn injustice & indulgence in entertaining abominations.)

·        (BTW Reminder Side Note: people often feel off as soon as they are invited to sin, but you actually get off when you cooperate with that invitation. You do not have to pre-own the nature of demons any more than being born blind makes you guilty.)

·        Are you “off”? -- You are sinning as long as you refuse to get right.

·        Being “morally off” includes doing/cooperating with fear, anxiety, divided cares, unsoundness, un-saved-mindedness, continuing in confusion, irrationality, mindlessness, unforgiveness, unbelief, mental hypocrisy without zealous love, making morally wrong decisions, being untrue, foolish, blind, wallowing in ignorance, not knowing God, and everything else that is demonic (to whatever degree) and disobeys the Bible.
[comp: SOM -- A More Sensitive Conscience]

·        Can you think of any other examples of what makes a person “morally off”?

·        Even if you don’t know what might could be causing any of these things in you, the simple fact that they are there is more than enough reason for you to feel urgently obliged to humble yourself, confess, and say “sorry”. -- Its more than enough reason to drive you to repent.

·        If you keep repenting for things every time you might stumble across them, there is a good chance you can change, even if you don’t understand everything at first.

·        Being responsible means we seek to be the very first ones who will say how we have been wrong, no matter how much we have to incriminate ourselves to do it.

·        Being responsible for our actions means we are desperate beggars who will do anything to speak the truth out of our mouth so that we might escape evil and live.

·        It is time to get responsible and make good together-confessions to the truth, including the good humility of repentance.

 

Scriptural Examples of Confessions to God and Confrontations With the Devil

Other date(s); 8/28/16

 

(1-a) The Ball is in Your Court

Mat_9:28-30 – According to your faith, let it be unto you (CAB) [κατὰ τὴν πίστιν ὑμῶν γενηθήτω ὑμῖν]

 

(1-b) Your Faith Has Healed/Saved You -- Proven 7 Times!

Mar_5:34 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε]; Mar_10:52 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε], Luk_7:50 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε], Luk_8:48 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε], Luk_17:19 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε], Luk_18:42 [ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε], Act_14:9 [ἰδὼν ὅτι πίστιν ἔχει τοῦ σωθῆναι]

 

(2) Confess to God

Hos_14:2 WEB  Take words with you, and return to Yahweh. Tell him, "Forgive all our sins, and accept that which is good: so we offer our lips like bulls.

Hos_14:2 LB Take with you words, and turn to the Lord your God. Speak to Him, that you may not receive the reward of unrighteousness, but that you may receive good things; and we will render in return the fruit of our lips.

Hos_14:2  (14:3) λάβετε μεθ᾿ ἑαυτῶν λόγους καὶ ἐπιστράφητε πρὸς κύριον τὸν θεὸν ὑμῶν· εἴπατε αὐτῷ ὅπως μὴ λάβητε ἀδικίαν καὶ λάβητε ἀγαθά, καὶ ἀνταποδώσομεν καρπὸν χειλέων ἡμῶν.

 

(3) Required Confessions to the Devil -- Make Declarations to Resist the Devil

Mat_4:1-11; Luk_4:1-15 – Jesus fasting in the wilderness & Answering/fighting the devil

 

Note: these “1-2-3” Scriptural examples we just saw are a partial reference to the main procedure for getting out of ruts.

 

Power Confessions vs. Shallow Repetition

Other date(s); 9/11/16

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

 

Intro

·          We talked about the need for confessions, now let’s talk about the need to repeat them.

·          Now that we have reviewed the importance and justice of confessions, now we are talking about some very potent & specific answers as to how they can help us get out of ruts.

·          Note: We are speaking in a very basic way here because of weakness… (you should apply wisdom and fulfill these elementary descriptions with rich applications throughout your life)

 

Songs are repetitions, examples are “His Mercy Endures Forever”

 

·        In a partial attempt to honor “the lord’s prayer” against vain repetition*, many have held off meaningful repetition and many have given up on repeatedly coming to God and repeatedly striking at the devil...
Mat_6:7  Προσευχόμενοι δὲ μὴ βατταλογήσητε ὥσπερ οἱ ἐθνικοί· δοκοῦσι γὰρ ὅτι ἐν τῇ πολυλογίᾳ αὐτῶν εἰσακουσθήσονται.

·        But See: Biblical Repetition

·        We’re not taking about moving the mouth without activity in the heart,

·        We are not taking about multiplying words

·        We are taking about substance that drives the repetition

·        Power confessions are ways to throw yourself in  the right ball park so you won’t fall into vainly babbling multiplication of words

·        Power confessions are ways of repeating things that have the potential to continue pumping out depth when they’re repeated

·        3 Power Confessions: (A) “I believe / choose to believe You” / “Your Words are True”, (B) “I’m sorry this” / “I’m sorry that” (C) “I resist you, evil spirit” [Resist the devil] -- These are Power Confessions worth repeating/cycling through until their reality is birthed in your faith/belief/spirit & you get connected / re-connected

·        V: Also: saying “I Love You” to your God/spouse

·        “I’m sorry” (Getting Humble) & Resisting are the ones we are focusing on here

·        Limited Repetition: “please, please, please, please, please, please” -- shallow repetition does not pay. (If you repeat these words, do so sparingly, esp. if you are facing connection problems.)

·        Remember!: Hos_14:2  Take words with youLuk_15:17-18 – Prodigal son took words with him

·        The difference between effective power and shallow repetition is a faithful giving over / sacrifice vs. treacherous/mindless/non-logos outsourcing. -- When you are not taking responsibility for what you can change (not thinking). God requiress you to think about what you can change and believe for that change

·        With poor people they not only need to make a confession, but sometimes they need to even repeat it

·        With rich people they are so luxurious/complacent they won’t gather words together to make a good confession, therefore when they repeat things, their repetition is shallow.

·        It is cursed filthy shallowness, and anti-logos luxury of non-responsibility whenever someone finds ways to not think. This cursedness can often be why any such prayers are actually ignored / not heard by Heaven.

·        Don’t seek to maintain a façade / hypocritical fantasy by blaming / pointing the finger / redirecting responsibility to God when He has required you to be logos-reverencing and be logos-active in taking responsibility for your actions and thinking with logos to repent/make justice confessions.

·        Power Confessions can be very relevant and repeatable for re-connection because they have so many applications, and often, you won’t exhaust their need before you actually get somewhere.

·        Repeating “I’m sorry” can be one of those power confessions to never give up on, until it is powerful and real in your prayer.

·        You are done saying “I’m sorry” when you are done sinning and when your conscience is cleared

·        If you are going around and your conscience is not cleared and you are still vulnerable/prone to making moral mistakes, then you are probably not done saying “I’m sorry” yet.

 

 

 

Biblical Repetition

Power Repetition Confessions Are Biblical

Other date(s); 8/28/16; 9/11/16

 

Luke 18 – The Repetition of the Poor Widow to the Unjust Judge

 

Luk_18:1 CAB Then He spoke a parable to them, that one must [δεῖν] always pray and not lose heart [lit. be (falling) out (from) nasty-evil] [τὸ δεῖν πάντοτε προσεύχεσθαι αὐτοὺς καὶ μὴ ἐκκακεῖν (ἐκ + κακὸς)],

Luk_18:1  ῎Ελεγε δὲ καὶ παραβολὴν αὐτοῖς πρὸς τὸ δεῖν πάντοτε προσεύχεσθαι αὐτοὺς καὶ μὴ ἐκκακεῖν,

Luk_18:2 saying: "A certain judge was in a certain city, who did not fear God nor have regard for men.

Luk_18:2  λέγων· κριτής τις ἦν ἔν τινι πόλει τὸν Θεὸν μὴ φοβούμενος καὶ ἄνθρωπον μὴ ἐντρεπόμενος.

Luk_18:3 Now there was a widow in that city; and she kept coming to him, saying, 'Give justice to me against my adversary.'

Luk_18:3  χήρα δὲ ἦν ἐν τῇ πόλει ἐκείνῃ, καὶ ἤρχετο πρὸς αὐτὸν λέγουσα· ἐκδίκησόν με ἀπὸ τοῦ ἀντιδίκου μου.

Luk_18:4 And he did not want to for a time; but afterward he said within himself, 'although I do not fear God, nor have regard for man,

Luk_18:4  καὶ οὐκ ἠθέλησεν ἐπὶ χρόνον· μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα εἶπεν ἐν ἑαυτῷ· εἰ καὶ τὸν Θεὸν οὐ φοβοῦμαι καὶ ἄνθρωπον οὐκ ἐντρέπομαι,

Luk_18:5 yet because this widow bothers me I will give justice to her, lest she ·wear me out [ὑπωπιάζῃ* – ὑπό + οπς / WS: ōps -- under the eye… See: WS G5299] by forever [εἰς τέλος] coming to me.' "

Luk_18:5  διά γε τὸ παρέχειν μοι κόπον τὴν χήραν ταύτην ἐκδικήσω αὐτήν, ἵνα μὴ εἰς τέλος ἐρχομένη *ὑπωπιάζῃ* με [* WS: hupó (G5259), under, and ōps (n.f.), eye, face, countenance. To strike under the eyes, beat the face black and blue, give a black eye. In the NT generally to mistreat, trans. spoken of the body, to subject to hardship, mortify (1Co_9:27)”]

Luk_18:6 Then the Lord said, "Hear what the unjust judge said.

Luk_18:6  εἶπε δὲ ὁ Κύριος· ἀκούσατε τί ὁ κριτὴς τῆς ἀδικίας λέγει·

Luk_18:7 And God, shall He not execute justice for His own elect, who cry out day and night to Him, and yet He is patient with them?

Luk_18:7  ὁ δὲ Θεὸς οὐ μὴ ποιήσῃ τὴν ἐκδίκησιν τῶν ἐκλεκτῶν αὐτοῦ τῶν βοώντων πρὸς αὐτὸν ἡμέρας καὶ νυκτός, καὶ μακροθυμῶν ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῖς;

Luk_18:8 I tell you that He will execute justice for them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?"

Luk_18:8  λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι ποιήσει τὴν ἐκδίκησιν αὐτῶν ἐν τάχει. πλὴν ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐλθὼν ἆρα εὑρήσει τὴν πίστιν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς;

 

·        Notice that the repetition of the Poor Widow was (basically) ‘give me justice’.

·        Should you be prayerfully repeating ‘give me justice’ or ‘forgive me for my injustice’?

·        Here is how to know: Are you like a poor widow?

·        How do you need to activate the faith of repetition?

·        Whether you sin in public or in your closet, know for sure that sin increases the afflictions of innocent and even righteous people throughout the earth, so there is a lot to repent of if you have sinned.

 

Matthew & Mark – Jesus’ Repeated Prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane

 

Mat_26:44 LB  And leaving them, He went away again, and prayed a third time, saying the same words [τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον N-ASM εἰπὼν].

Mat_26:44 Greek  καὶ ἀφεὶς αὐτοὺς ἀπελθὼν πάλιν προσηύξατο ἐκ τρίτου τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον εἰπὼν.

 

Mar_14:39 LB  And He went away again and He prayed, saying the same thing [word] [τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον N-ASM εἰπὼν].

Mar_14:39 Greek  καὶ πάλιν ἀπελθὼν προσηύξατο τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον εἰπών.

 

·        Have you been tempted or have you already sinned?

·        Should you be just repeating resistance confessions (against the devil) or should you also be repeating repentance prayers (to God)?

·        (In any case, you should be repeating submission prayers until you are submitted.)

 

Pop Quiz: The Widow’s Requests & Jesus’ Prayers

·        Is faithful repetition Biblical? [Luk_18:1-8, Mat_26:44; Mar_14:39]

·        Is faithful repetition required? [Luk_18:1 (δεῖν), Luk_18:3 (she kept coming to him, saying)]

·        Is faithful repetition faith? [Luk_18:8: …will He really find faith on the earth?]

 

·           It is also good to repeat over and over until you believe and your words work deeply (in/through you) 8/10/16:

·           i renounce/reject evil...get out

·           I believe you...

·           i'm sorry...

 

Mid-Point Review

9/13/16; 9/15/16; 9/18/16; 9/24/16-9/25/16

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#MidPointReview

Rut-Part-4-A--Humility-and-Resistance-Intro-to-the-Swift-Procedure--9.25.16.mp3

Rut-Part-4-B--QNAs--9.25.16.mp3

 

 

Connection is all about truth

 

Joh_4:24 – Worship in spirit and truth

 

If you are in a rut & having connection problems, check your bases:

 

Got Truth? --

·        If not, it is often due to lacking the right kind of harshness or kindness…

·        So what is the truth you need?

·        What is really right?

·        You should continually be asking this when examining your harshness or kindness.

 

Do you have faith to the degree that you actually love that which is true, or is it only a duty to you? -- “only duty” sentiments are not actually having faith in the truth which you supposedly know.

 

Truth is Always Good for the Poor

·        If you are humbled and yet still having problems loving the truth, you might not actually have your settings correct on what truth is…

·        Truth is always good news (the good announcement) to poor people.

·        Truth is always the most appealing and irresistible life and resurrection to those who are totally disenchanted with this life.

 

Confessions

If you happily love truth (i.e. you believe it) and are still experiencing being stuck, then have you also fulfilled the need to take responsibility for where you are, and make confessions?

 

Make good confessions to men, to God, and the devil, however much as needed to fill up Justice.

 

Take Care of Business

No complacency allowed among us when it comes to demons

9/15/16; 9/25/16

        

The atmosphere we live in tends to bring a certain “feeling/spiritual atmosphere” with it. Its time we no longer tolerate this bully us around. We need to set the atmosphere and not let it set us. We need to be a thermostat and not a thermometer.

If you want God to like you, then start being a thermostat / zealous against demons! (fleshball come through with a harlot, time to pierce them through with a spear)

The plague happens when people are complacent.

Have you tolerated gossip in your ear from a demon? Then you are a thermometer

One of the first things that Sir feels when he boots out a demon is the love of God. It’s faithfulness that makes or breaks a pathway to us that shows God’s love.

 

When people stop tolerating demons that’s when demons start being terrified of them.

 

·        Zeal/indignation is one my main goals for us concerning spiritual warfare.

·        It is high time that no one any longer in our Assembly just let’s problems continue.

·        If something is stopping you from doing whatever truth you want to do, don’t tolerate it anymore.

·        If something stops you, get diligent, determined, and zealous (in truth) to fight it, and don’t give up until you have taken care of business and kicked it out!

·        In that light, let’s get down to business and talk about a Swift Procedure for Getting out of a Rut

 

 

Swift Procedure: Humility & Resistance – Quick Summary of the “Swift Procedure”

8/6/16; 8/17/16; 8/21/16; 8/28/16; 9/15/16; 9/24/16-9/25/16; 3/1/24

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare | Humility & Resistance | Humble | Resist

http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.htm#HumilityAndResistance

Intro to the Swift Procedure for Getting out of a Rut

 

Here is a very simple CPR for spiritual warfare to get reconnected/unstuck/out of a rut:

 

(A) Get Humble

(B) Resist

 

You can often go back and forth between these two answers until something breaks.

 

James & Peter – The Main Passages that Show You What We’re talking About Here

8/6/16

 

Jas_4:6-10

1Pe_5:5-9, etc.

 

Just like in the Old Testament where they say an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth so you need to give a proper correlating response to the devil when the he tries to kill you or those in the assembly.

 

Use logos and word together a good confession against the devil, like Jesus did in the wilderness…man shall not live by bread alone etc. Most of the time you need to give a verbal confession.

 

When you are submitting to God, it often involves repentance.

 

James & Peter Notes

·        You do not necessarily have to sin in order to get in a rut (2Co_1:8-10, etc.; Jas_5:15), but all ruts require humility to get out.
>> who sinned, this man or his parents…

·        Although not all ruts involve sin, a significant percent usually have at least something (be it ever so small or big) that requires at least some repentance.

·        Notice the types of real sins named in the context: Jas_4:6-11, etc.

·        These are examples of real things to repent of.

·          Contrast these with the fake accusations that evil/dirty spirits make against the poor humble.

·        Notice that James usually criticizes the rich, but always shows mercy to the poor.

 

Be Clothed With Humility

εγκομβωσασθεG1463 V-ADM-2P < ἐγκομβόομαι

Strong: “κομβόω komboō (to gird); to engirdle oneself (for labor), that is, figuratively (the apron being a badge of servitude)”

WS: “kombóō (n.f.), to gather or tie in a knot, hence to fasten a garment, to clothe. To clothe or girdle oneself. Egkómbōma is a long white apron or outer garment with strings worn by slaves. Metaphorically in 1Pe_5:5, to tie or bind oneself into an egkómbōma, meaning to put on, to clothe…”

 

(A) Pray to God (humbling yourself): I am sorry for cooperating / please help me not to cooperate with this/that sin/evil thing/spirit/demon

(B) Say to the devil (resisting/standing against): I resist/reject/renounce cooperating with this/that sin/evil thing/spirit/demon

 

·        Both the poor & the rich should pray this way whenever stuck in a rut.

·          [A & B Might be the same sin/spirit, or B might be the next need you need to move on to…]

·        Generally, keep using both A & B until something breaks.

·        As soon as both A & B connect to faith & swiftly go on to fulfill all justice, then you win!

·        (We are obviously not saying A & B cover everything you will ever need in prayer [example: rejoicing, intercession, etc., etc.], but certainly, so many ruts could so quickly be dissolved by enduring in these two realms.)

 

[Side Note: See/comp (if needed): Passive vs. Aggressive Resistance]

 

(A) Humility & It’s Close Relationship with Repentance

Other dates; 8/11/16; 8/16/16-8/17/16; 8/19/16; 9/2/16; 10/1/16

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare | Humility & Resistance | Humble | Resist

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#Humility

>> Add to Rep -- eventually?

Rut-Part-5-A-- Humility-and-Repentance--10.2.16.mp3

Rut-Part-5-B--QNAs--10.2.16.mp3

 

General Humility

Other dates (above); 9/2/16

·        Bowing (knees and/or Prostrate)

·        In general, (A)  pray to be less than other people (even the souls of their feet) / repent for being like them, and, (B) pray to fear God (even with trembling)

 

Sir_7:17  More and more, humble your pride;

what awaits man is fire and worms.4 [4 [Sir7:17] Heb / LXX “; the punishment of the ungodly is fire and worms”]

 

There is, of course, lots more we could say about getting humble… but of course we are focusing on getting out of ruts.

 

The specific humility that gets people out of ruts often focuses on repentance for sin, and prayers to be saved/spared from sin (i.e. get out of ruts).

 

Getting Humble Can Often Mean Lots of Repentance

Other dates (above); 9/2/16

·        Humility often has a lot to do with repenting -- and as for getting out of ruts, repenting is one of the main “humilities” needed.

·        Goal of Humbling Repentance: make the acknowledgement of lowering of yourself/humility/repentance/orthodoxy connect with faith

·        If you can somehow successfully repent in faith, then you are very well on your way to getting out of a rut.

·        If there is something you did that you know was wrong (to whatever degree) then you want to reverse that posture with the Justice of your words.

·        When repenting, seek to be as specific as possible.

 

What to Say When Repenting

·        I am sorry (repeatedly) -- you might be bowing when saying this

·        In repentance, say “I’m sorry” over and over again, until something is helped / something breaks / lets go.
(obviously, we do not say repetition works even in unbelief, but in general, as long as there is clean faith, we can’t stress how important it is to endure with good words until help comes).
(See: Power Confessions vs. Shallow Repetition)

·        Please forgive and send away all my sins -- sometimes you might even be raising your hands asking for this

 

Remember: When repenting and repeating “I’m sorry”, the goal is not to let you off the hook for thinking (so that you can continue in your error and sin more), but the goal is to oblige you to think and consider, and verbalize any and all sins, and confess them out of your mouth in humble self-contradiction/denial:

 

TSK on Eze_18:28 MT: he considereth: Eze_18:14, Eze_12:3, Deu_32:29, Psa_119:1, Psa_119:6, Psa_119:59, Jer_31:18-20, [Luk_15:17-18]

 

The Whole Bible is Big on Forgiveness, and Repentance, and Saying Sorry A Lot

9/23/16; 10/2/16

 

OT sacrifices & solemn assemblies

 

Lord’s prayer is at least covering repentance every day, if not every time you go and pray.

·        Forgive us as we forgive

·        Lots of side-notes after that on forgiveness

 

With the SOM promoting a more sensitive conscious, there is very easily a lot more to repent about than if you were a typical church person.

 

If your brother comes to you 70 x 7 in one day and says sorry

·        Mat_18:22 (Mat_18:21-35 – incl. King forgiving debt);

·        Luk_17:4 (Luk_17:3-10 – forgiving is only doing your duty)

 

Mar_11:25-26 – Jesus: When you stand praying: forgive!

 

Jas_5:16 – James: pray for healing -- confess sins!

 

Sir_39:5 His care is to rise early to seek Yahweh, his Maker, to petition the Most High,

to open his lips in prayer, to ask pardon for his sins.

 

It is always good to check and watch your need to confess sins and forgive others.

 

 

Repent of Helping Fear and Unbelief

·        ‘Don’t fear. Only believe’ (Mar_5:36, Luk_8:50) -- and repent for everything you might be doing contrary to that.

>> Sync multiple occurrences herein

·        ‘Oh unbelieving and perverse generation’ (Mat_17:17, Mar_9:19, Luk_9:41)

 

When you feel bad feelings, are you truly obeying these perfect commands?

 

Perfect Requirements Challenge Your Claim to Innocence

·        When you apply the perfect faith requirements of the Scriptures, how guilty are you in reality?

·        When you don’t just include what you were aware of, but also what you were not aware of, then how many times have you really sinned in a given day?

 

 

Bad Feelings Are Often Personal Guilt that Requires Repentance

Getting Humble Often Means Acknowledging Personal Responsibility for Bad Feelings of Guilt (When You Have Cooperated)

9/2/16; 9/24/16-9/25/16; 10/1/16-10/2/16

 

Two Competing Guilt-Goals

·        Flesh’s Goal: It is the goal of humans to say, “We aren’t guilty for anything. We cannot change who we are. god made us sinful like this!”

·        Bible’s Goal: It is the goal of the Bible to convict the guilty and make humans own up for their real crimes that they committed, including the additional crimes of not perceiving or acknowledging or admitting their guilt/liability.

 

The Basics of Learning to Recognize More Subtle Guilt

·        It can be a life-changing “revelation” to find out that “boredom is a mild form of guilt”.

·        Now also we need to consider how other bad feelings can be some kind of subtle and disguised forms of guilt.

·        Typically, we don’t recognize and associate and learn that these bad feelings are guilt, because our consciences are so luxuriously dull, and at first we don’t even initially notice our soul doing anything wrong to bring these bad feelings on us.

·        We don’t end up recognizing that flavor of guilt because we don’t notice ourselves doing something wrong when those bad feelings started.

·        There are lots of different bad feelings that might oppose you: fear, shame, bitterness, confusion, and countless other oppositions and temptations

·        When you are stuck in a rut and don’t know why unidentified feelings won’t leave, these are often just guilt

 

Remembering the Beginning Cause of Your Bad Feelings

·        One of the ways to wage war against a dull and forgetful conscience -by means of self-discipline- is to stop and apply yourself to remember what caused the bad feelings to begin with.

·        You cannot be stuck in any debt without first owing something

·        When you are stuck/indebted something is making a claim that you owe something and it might be right.

·        This is another very important procedure when sifting through the negativities of your soul.

·        For example, if you finally remember that you were consuming things, or speaking words (especially multiplied words), or engaging in social vanity, or exuding confidence, strength, pride, capability, or forwardness when evil feelings started, you might have done something wrong.

·        Someone will say, “how do I know if the bad guilt feelings are Phantom or real??”

·        If you were being rich when bad feelings came, I am pretty sure you did something wrong.

·        If you were being poor when bad feelings came, these bad feelings are probably mostly very subtle and disguised Phantom Guilt feelings.

·        For example, if bad feelings started when your parents started persecuting you without a cause, then this is fundamentally Phantom guilt, although now you also, btw, have to also guard against (and repent if necessary) from cooperating (by hurt, fear, or even anger) and becoming like them (whether you look like the victim, or an aggressor).

·        Persecution = false accusation.

·        Note: if the guilt is indeed phantom, then it can be broken with spiritual warfare. If the guilt is real, then it requires humility and repentance.

·        If you just apply “warfare” against real guilt and never repent, this can eventually sear your conscience -- like most church people, incl. Pentecostals who tell the devil to ‘get behind them’, even though the sinners are the ones who need to repent.

·        It really can pay off to keep going through the swift procedure until things are broken.

·        If you try to repent and you can’t it is either a lack of faith on your end or the guilt could be phantom. Phantom is successful and morally resolve by warfare and real guilt is successful and  morally resolve by repentance.

 

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10/5/16

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oranges boost imune system

other things help other needs

we can be just the medicine each other needs to throw out ruts

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The more you can identify your guilt, the more you can particularly believe you are guilty, and be sufficiently convicted and broght to an acknowledgement of sorrow and real remorse, and finish faithful brokenness of your will, and repent in faithfulness and justice.

When you give a reasonable responce to the reality of guilt, you are well on your way to being forgiven.

 

Bad Sadness, Bad Mourning, & Pseudo-Victim-Mentalities Are Really Just Guilt

Getting Sensitive and Convictable, While Also Staying Protected Against Phantom Enemies

More on recognizing guilt

·        While we certainly want to oppose phantom guilt, remember that part of opposing phantom guilt is repenting of the right things that actually make a difference and relieve your conscience and don’t leave you hanging with unknown nags and griefs and moral failures.

·        Opposing phantom guilt includes identifying where real guilt is at. -- (and, btw, if no guilt [or at least temptation] is there, then you usually won’t have any real debilitating challenges getting out of a rut.)

·        Remember: you are personally responsible for getting morally “on”.

·        Very often people confuse and misidentify personal guilt (whether mild/poorer or great/richer) as though it were sadness / depression / discouragement / hopelessness / fear / other bad feelings. -- this is being “morally off” & not acknowledging your own liability/responsibility.

·        Very often, people are not really the victims, they are actually proactively doing wrong with their own hands / mouths / words / strength, and to add insult to injury, they have not yet admitted / come to terms with / repented over the fact that they are cooperating and are even guilty of doing anything wrong at all.

·        Even those who are victimized are not without guilt from their raper, unless truly, they proactively did everything right they could in crying out against their attacking spirits (Deu_22:22-27).

·        You might be “caught in the field” in some cases, but most of the time you are “in the city” and you can escape out of the violent clutches of bad feelings and walk out bearing no guilt as a result (as long as you have truth and faith).

·        When repenting of the guilt behind particular sadnesses & bad feelings, remember the (relative) principles of harsh-to-richness and gentleness-to-poverty.

·        If you are poor, have you ever needed to repent of the “milder guilt” of believing bad things about yourself?

·        To what degree could your potential guilt be “mild”, and all you got to say is “sorry”/ “excuse me”?

·        If you are rich, to what degree have you ever needed to take your own atrocities more seriously and own up to your greater guilt and stop playing it off and outsourcing it as “the devil making you do it”?

·        Instead of being strongly emotionally moved about how sad you might be (“I’m so sad, I’m so sad!”), why are you not instead taking integrity and honor into consideration, and loving truth, and getting honest and seriously moved inside yourself to start repenting for proactively doing evil with your raper?

·        Feeling sorry for yourself / unfaithful mourning does not help save your soul -- you need honest integrity / love for the truth to win.

 

Deal With Bad Feelings: Remember Reality & Get Enabled to Do More Than Ever Before

·        Make a strong determination to remember and deal with all the evils that oppose your soul, and deal with them.

·        Facing reality enables you to repent in faith.

·        Also remember that faithfully dealing with what is within your reach enables you succeed in dealing with those things outside of your reach.

 

Repenting of Unknown Problems

Other dates; 9/2/16; 9/25/16; 10/1/16-10/2/16

Tags: Repenting of Unknown Sins

Compare: Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution -- esp. the sub-points starting with, Biblical Fact: Ignorant Sin Exists – If you Don’t Believe, Repent!

·        Suppose you have dull aches in your conscience, bad feelings, and possibly subtle guilts.

·        Knowing that it is very easy to contract guilt/liability by cooperating with your enemies without even knowing it, why haven’t we spent much more time repenting, even if we don’t know what we did wrong?

·        Goal: Learn how to repent of sin-problems you can’t express with words & you didn’t even know were there.  -- very important!

·        We said earlier: “When repenting, seek to be as specific as possible”, but,

·        When it is not possible to repent specifically and your problems are unknown, repent of feelings associated with something that feels bad/off/wrong/unbelieving/defiled/guilty.

·        DAP Notes:
The sin of omission is dependent on knowledge and the sin of commission is regardless of knowledge.

·        He who knows the good He ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin.

·        The world says: What you don’t know won’t hurt you.  The Bible: What you don’t know kills you. It is in your court to find out about ignorant sins.

·        Pray: please help me watch and know where I am messing up at.

·        When bad feelings are stuck, there is often something soliciting your cooperation -- so if you can’t get it out by Spiritual Warfare, often you have to repent of somehow giving it permission to stay.

·        Pray: “I’m sorry for that” / “That bad feeling I am feeling right now” / “that I have not been resisting like I ought to” (repent as much as it is affecting you).

·        Repeated/thorough repentance (“list-style”) is the answer to so many countless “mountains”/walls that don’t ever seem to move.

·        So often, you might not have just said sorry enough times to mean it, and/or you were not specific enough and/or you did not have the prerequisites (like warm love-faith).

·        Repenting of unknowns is an extremely vital “virtue skill”.

·        It can end countless distractions (like a movie or song stuck in your head). << hint: that was important!

·        When you find yourself wandering/bored/not in control of your thoughts, give an answer to your confused conscious, and repent of unknowns or go find out what they are (even better).

·        Often, someone might not know why they feel bad, but as soon as they start repenting for what they did not notice/ know was there, then they can start to know why they were feeling bad.

·        It is amazing: Simply admitting you’re wrong does a world of good, and it potently benefits/saves those who never even suspected they were guilty to begin with.

·        Since it is so easy to become guilty of something small or great, why have we not always stayed close to humbling ourselves in repentance (as the Lord’s Prayer indicates) so we can always stay morally on?

·        If you cannot as directly ‘identify were real guilt is at’ to repent in the most specific way, often you should just start with the likely types of things we listed in Phantom Guilt, and then keep going on from there saying you’re sorry until all guilt and all disguised guilt is broken and goes away.

·        A lot of ambiguous things / confusing feelings that disconnect you are actually just spiritual guilt.

·        God and the rest of the spiritual realm care about and keenly notice the details of cleanness and perfect carefulness, and these things make all the difference in the world to them, but we sit by and don’t even have the idea that we contracted guilt to begin with. If we are at least blessed with “the unhappiness when being disconnected”, often all we know is we feel bad/messed up, and can’t figure out why.

·        Our consciences are usually so ignorant and confused and even dull that they don’t notice the many vile and dirty evils that disconnect us spiritually.

·        Whether you know or don’t know what is needed, often when you simply get to the point where you actually admit you are wrong where you previously did not care/cooperate, then these things can start changing you and you can start getting freed up.

·        You must do whatever you possibly can do to make the right confession to the truth, even if you are ignorant…

·        Justice and truth are constant powers at work that do not pause or wait on account of ignorance.

·        Until you learn how to repent of inexpressible issues, you will very likely be stuck for very prolonged amounts of time.

·        Shallowness and non-perception take their toll on you morally, and they very often set the limits and boundaries on how close you are allowed to come to God.

·        Learn to love spiritual/mysterious/inexpressible realities so that you will be favored/liked/loved by Wisdom and the Clean Spirit from above (like Daniel).

·        When you love mysterious inexpressible spiritual things then it is a lot easier to repent of unknown problems

·        Repenting of unknowns is life and favor and relief to those who believe enough to lovingly repent.

 

Who Can Know His Own Errors?

Psa_19:12 WEB  Who can discern his errors? Forgive me from hidden errors.

Psa_19:12 CAB  Who will understand his transgressions? Purge me from my secret sins.

Psa_19:12  (18:13) παραπτώματα τίς συνήσει; ἐκ τῶν κρυφίων μου καθάρισόν με.

Psa_19:13 Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins. Let them not have dominion over me. Then I will be upright. I will be blameless and innocent of great transgression.

Psa_19:13 And spare Your servant ·from the attack of strangers [ἀπὸ ἀλλοτρίων – CT: for those of others; ABP: from the aliens]; if they do not gain the dominion over me, then shall I be blameless, and I shall be clear from great sin.

Psa_19:13  (18:14) καὶ ἀπὸ ἀλλοτρίων φεῖσαι τοῦ δούλου σου· ἐὰν μή μου κατακυριεύσωσιν, τότε ἄμωμος ἔσομαι καὶ καθαρισθήσομαι ἀπὸ ἁμαρτίας μεγάλης.

Psa_19:14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, Yahweh, my rock, and my redeemer.

Psa_19:14 So shall the sayings of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be pleasing continually before You, O Lord my helper, and my redeemer.

Psa_19:14  (18:15) καὶ ἔσονται εἰς εὐδοκίαν τὰ λόγια τοῦ στόματός μου καὶ ἡ μελέτη τῆς καρδίας μου ἐνώπιόν σου διὰ παντός, κύριε βοηθέ μου καὶ λυτρωτά μου.

 

TSK on Psa_19:12: can: Psa_40:12, Job_6:24, Isa_64:6, 1Co_4:4, Heb_9:7

 

Psalm 139 – Search/Test & Know Me

Psa_139:23 WEB  Search me, God, and know my heart. Try me, and know my thoughts.

Psa_139:23 CAB  Prove me, O God, and know my heart; examine me, and know my paths;

Psa_139:23  (138:23) δοκίμασόν με, ὁ θεός, καὶ γνῶθι τὴν καρδίαν μου, ἔτασόν με καὶ γνῶθι τὰς τρίβους μου

Psa_139:24 See if there is any wicked way in me, and lead me in the everlasting way.

Psa_139:24 and see if there is any way of iniquity in me, and lead me in an everlasting way.

Psa_139:24  (138:24) καὶ ἰδὲ εἰ ὁδὸς ἀνομίας ἐν ἐμοί, καὶ ὁδήγησόν με ἐν ὁδῷ αἰωνίᾳ.

 

 

and it can happen all the sudden,
(although thoroughness is often they key need)

 

(B) ResistanceBeginning Rut Warfare with The Basics

Spiritual Warfare Against Ruts

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#Resistance

Compare: Tormented vs. Demonized

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare | Humility & Resistance | Humble | Resist

Rut-Part-6--Resistance--11.06.16.mp3

 

Note: as we said previously, this Bible study assumes that you already know and remember the difference between Tormented vs. Demonized.

 

Positive Feedback for this Rut Teaching

·        Thanks for the recent Positive Feedback

·        While we were Bible studying, V said there were numerous things she could think of to repent of, and,

·        V said she had been feeling like there was something wrong with her not being able to forgive

·        and then after repenting (etc.) she could say, “that’s not me” -- you don’t have to be defined by demons anymore…

 

Generalities of Rut Warfare

11/5/16

·        We are going to start going into some warfare aspects of fighting ruts by reviewing some basic and general reminders and needs when doing spiritual warfare.

·        These are just a few examples of things that can affect the effectiveness of your warfare -- especially if you forget to do some of them. -- or whenever you finally remember to start doing them again…

 

Reminders of the Needful Times to Do Warfare

9/27/16; 10/16/16

·        When do you need to do warfare? -- When you can’t do the righteousness you want to do.

·        If you can’t do what you want to do, it is because someone is stopping you from doing it.

·        When you’re dealing with internal struggles and behavioral patterns inside of you, and it is not like you are facing a physical brick wall in front of you, or something like that. -- You are dealing with an evil personality/being.

·        If a physical case might need to be ‘thrown into the sea’ as a ‘un-submissive fig tree’, how much more should internal oppositions be confronted and their personal evils be exposed, and even expelled? 

·        Like we always say: if there is anything stopping you from doing the good you know you are required to do, then resist it.

·        Address the particular opposition against you and give it a directly correlating opposition of justice in fighting back against it.

 

Different Levels of What You Can Say/Do in Warfare

Other dates; 11/6/16 (presented)

·        Reject/renounce -- goes along with 1st base repentance

·        Stand against / resist -- required for all who humble themselves

·        [then, after particularly apprehending faith…]

·        Strike/oppose

·        Take authority

·        Command to get out / go away

·        Break their power

·        Pray & do torments on them

·        See / Compare: EC Quotes for more (hopefully we may get to do a thorough teaching on this one day)

 

Sacred-ify the Name with Sure Faith

·        Expect something to happen and obey you whenever you say the name of Jesus.

·        Sacred-ify/hallow the Name -- only use it when you actually believe something is going to happen.

·        We obviously don’t want to be like the seven sons of Sceva (Act_19:11-20).

·        If you are in the process of building up courage to believe that when you use the Name demons will obey, then in the meantime, you can simply stand against/"resist" (as James & Peter say in general).

·        And btw: Sacred-ifying the Name is directly related to Jesus’ (& James’) absolute faith requirements to walk in the supernatural (Mat_21:21, etc.; Mar_11:23, etc.; Jas_1:7, etc.).

·        On one hand: if you do not Sacred-ify the name then you might step beyond the boundaries of your faith and disobey romans 12, and you might even become like the seven sons of Sceva.

·        On the other hand: just because results don’t happen immediately, that does not mean you really failed in having absolute faith.

·        Remember: (A) fig trees may take time to wither (Mar_11:20-21, etc., -- Gadarene demoniac, no fear, only faith is always the answer), and, (B) you might need to “stand praying” (Mar_11:25) and/or (C) have knowledge added* so as to complete our spiritual work
[* Have Knowledge Added To Your Faith: Mar_8:23-24, etc. (men as trees -- "2 miracles" needed); 2Pe_1:5 (add/supply-upon/ἐπιχορηγήσατε...in that of your faith...knowledge)]

 

Mar_11:23 CAB  For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that the things which he says are coming to pass, what ever he says shall be his.

Mar_11:23 Greek  ἀμὴν TSBγὰρ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι ὃς ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ὄρει τούτῳ, ἄρθητι καὶ βλήθητι εἰς τὴν θάλασσαν, καὶ μὴ διακριθῇ ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ, ἀλλὰ πιστεύσῃ ὅτι ἃ λέγει γίνεται, ἔσται αὐτῷ ὃ ἐὰν εἴπῃ.

Mar_11:23 GNT-V  αμην TSBγαρ λεγω υμιν οτι ος αν ειπη τω ορει τουτω αρθητι και βληθητι εις την θαλασσαν και μη διακριθη εν τη καρδια αυτου αλλα Aπιστευη TSBπιστευση οτι Aο TSBα Aλαλει TSBλεγει γινεται εσται αυτω TSBο TSBεαν TSBειπη

 

TSK (very appropriate answers to the “conditions”): whatsoever: Psa_37:4, Joh_14:13, Joh_15:7

 

Rom_12:3 CAB   For I say, through the grace [χάριτος – Favor] given to me, to everyone who is among you, ·not to think of himself too highly, beyond what you should think [μὴ ὑπερφρονεῖν παρ᾿ ὃ δεῖ φρονεῖν], but to think soberly [ἀλλὰ φρονεῖν εἰς τὸ σωφρονεῖν], ·as God has imparted to each one a measure of faith [ἑκάστῳ ὡς ὁ Θεὸς ἐμέρισε μέτρον πίστεως].

Rom_12:3  Λέγω γὰρ διὰ τῆς χάριτος τῆς δοθείσης μοι παντὶ τῷ ὄντι ἐν ὑμῖν, μὴ ὑπερφρονεῖν παρ᾿ ὃ δεῖ φρονεῖν, ἀλλὰ φρονεῖν εἰς τὸ σωφρονεῖν, ἑκάστῳ ὡς ὁ Θεὸς ἐμέρισε μέτρον πίστεως.

Rom_12:2  και μη Bσυσχηματιζεσθαι TSAσυσχηματιζεσθε τω αιωνι τουτω αλλα Bμεταμορφουσθαι TSAμεταμορφουσθε τη ανακαινωσει του νοος TSBυμων εις το δοκιμαζειν υμας τι το θελημα του θεου το αγαθον και ευαρεστον και τελειον

 

 

Breathing Events

Alternatively: Air-way Expelling Events / Movements

Be Open To Breathing/Respiration Events -- Sighing, Yawning, Burping… -- Seriously!

A Particular, Largely Neglected Way To Resist And Evict / Throw Out Invaders From Your Soul

…8/14/16; 8/17/16; 8/20/16-8/21/16; 10/1/16; 10/12/16; 11/4/16; 11/19/16; 11/19/16; 11/20/16 (major revisions/completions continued); 11/26/16; …12/11/16

(presented?)

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

http://www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#BreathingEvents

Rut-Part-7--Breathing-Events--12.11.16.mp3

>> story: hamster died: squealed

>> story: Uncle died with a last breath

 

Breathing events are also somewhat related to rest.

 

Have you ever had so much discouragement or untruth that it could make you feel sick?

 

Do you know the different affects, both taxes as well as joyous rewards, of either having truth or having falsehood in your stomach?

 

We call certain “feelings”, suspicion, but Numbers 5 calls it a “spirit of jealousy/zealousness”

 

We call it depression, but Isiah calls it a, “Spirit of heaviness” (Isa_61:3).

>>Scrip:

>> Psalms were carrying around great grief and sorrow… \/\/

 

Lots of Prerequisites

·        In many ways, we are deferring for an update while temporarily (for this season) giving you the little bit we have so far.

·        This is one of those keys that you might be hard pressed to find, but can be extremely critical for getting free.

·        The first few sub-points are made up of numerous prerequisites before diving into the important things we actually want to say about breathing events.

 

Let the Audience of This Part of the Teaching Be Limited to Those Who Fully Believe Us

·        If you are reading or listening to this part of the Bible study, make sure you have authorization from your immediate accountability helpers / mini-overseers.

·        (it might not be suited for those still seeking to be established in the faith / whenever someone is still struggling with despising us -- these types of things are for those who already believe us… )

·        (it might even be challenging for us to apprehend by faith…).

·        We are not interested in sharing this Bible study with most of those who are still counting the cost as to whether or not they will think -- that is: trust and believe that basically everything that we say is reliable.

·        If people are not fully persuaded that our experience is canonical, there is no honor or value or usefulness or appropriateness in them listening to this part of the teaching.

·        For the unworthy nosy pagan atheistic critic outsider, it is none of their rude and beast-like business what special and sacred things we teach and help each other with among ourselves, and we even have to be careful with those who are shaky and still in certain levels of probation.

 

My Limited but Zealous Position on Breathing Events

Even if Embracing Breathing Events is Only A Partial Answer, We Still Can’t Tolerate Complacency with Demons

·        I am troubled if any of us keeps going about in long-term unresolve-s for multiple days.

·        We don’t have to be defeated like this.

·        Even at the real risk of being “a beggar helping a beggar” I am seeking to help you in my weakness (as long as I can do so without becoming the blind leading others into blindness).

·        I defer to updates after any of us are helped in surpassing ways (i.e. beyond my partial descriptions here).

 

Ignorant & Superstitious Nervousness vs. Faithful Zeal Toward Breathing Events

Two Main Ways People Interface with Breathing Events

·        Someone might freely and enthusiastically harp on how they “struggle with this” and “struggle with that”, but when you encourage them to consider breathing events they back off with fear and superstition, and they are very sure that they do not need that!

·        They are making fearful associations with being Demonized, and this has (comparatively) very little to do with that.

·        Good Angel-messengers and bad ones, demons and various spirits -- When will we finally realize that these are all constantly part of everyday life for everyone?

·        What is a spirit? The blowing-ness of a conscious being. A personal wind.

·        You are breathing aren’t you? Then you are dealing with spirits all the time.

·        Beware because if you’re superstitious that actually makes you more vulnerable to demons than being rational and precautionary.

·        Paying attention to and even beckoning breathing events is an important part of being intentional and war-like toward what everyone else lets happen randomly by accident.

·        Most likely, you are already having some (mini & subtle?) breathing events (very possibly without even noticing it), but now you can actually do something about them by faith so that it is actually to your credit, and praises the zeal of your virtue.

·        An answerto cabin fever is to take deep breaths. Sometimes when the room feels stuffy it is actually a demon you are dealing with

·        You can either be ignorant and fearful and let yourself be drug around in the mud, or you can get intentional and faithful and win a noble victory in fighting spiritual warfare.

·        Ironically, those who might embrace breathing events can stand a much better chance of being much more demon-free than those who are too nervous to possibly start feeling like & admitting that they need to get demons out of their soul.

 

No “Breathing Incrimination” Allowed Among the Faithful

·        Because we are not talking about being Demonized, therefore, “Breathing Incrimination” is not allowed!

·        If we go into this, we have to insist on it NOT being incriminating!

·        It would be better for me not to cover this, rather than having covered it, for it to open up evil and inaccurate suspicions among us.

·        We have got to get raw and “brutally honest” about how much evil can be in us, and we have to be courageous and “bring it to the light”.

·        If we can’t open up the deep wounds of our hearts to each other we are individuals and not a body.

·        We have got to get rid of every hint of despising so we can be a clean community that is able to expel darkness without hypocritical despising against those who are getting more saved than your own inactivity.

 

Clearing the Confusion Over Torment-ation vs. Demonization to Understand Breathing Events

·        Reminder: Tormented vs. Demonized -- know the difference!

·        Countless people who teach on “exorcism” make no difference or distinction between Tormented vs. Demonized -- and most of their motives are typically perverted because they want to believe that their demonized clients that overtly get taken over by demons are still saved. (Alternatively, I have also seen people make no distinction so as to incriminate the innocent who manifest nothing at all.)

·        Several Levels of Demonic Involvement: (1) Being Tormented, (2) cooperating with tormentation (& demonic influence) (3) Willingly Being Partly Demonized / Sorcery / Witchcraft (which is most of what we have faced), and, (4) Being Unwillingly Demonized.

·        Goal: Repent (to God) of what is willful & fight/cast out what is unwilful.

·        We usually should not want to seek to “cast out” anything with brute force that is willful or involves active cooperation. (think: Simon the Sorcerer & Bar-Jesus vs. the girl with a spirit of Python)

·        Resolving willful cooperation is generally what repentance is for (unless your spiritual warfare is done in terms of “breaking a league” with something).

·        Fighting both Torment-ation as well as Demonization can involve Breathing Events, but the capacities and moral implications are very different.

·        Escaping Torment-ation can mean a willful, and even controlled/cooperative, Breathing Event by the individual.

·        Escaping Demonization can mean an unwilful (uncontrolled) Breathing Event by the evil spirit.

·        A scream/shriek (for example) is typically associated with escaping demonization in the Bible (although it might not be necessarily limited to that).

·        Escaping Torment-ation is often more about a “sigh of relief” (or yawn, or burp, etc.) than a scream of a spirit being defeated (although it might not be necessarily limited to that**).

·        A demonization breathing event can mean a spirit inside of a person breathing its way out in defeat, from having previously taken over the person’s body.

·        A tormentation breathing event can mean a (hopefully spiritual) human in control of their body acting by faith to push an alternative personality out of their soul lest it influence them any further.

·        When you intentionally/conscientiously cooperate/work with Breathing Events in Fighting Torment-ation, it necessarily involves the faith and will of the patient.

·        When Breathing Events occur in Fighting Demonization, you are bypassing the inactive/victimized will of the patient.

·        Whenever the will is still available/intact/involved you should engage the will in cooperating with Breathing Events for yourself and others in kicking spirits out of your soul.

·        (of course, Whenever the will would not be involved then you would simply address the spirit itself.)

·        Being Tormented is when evil spirits are mostly hurting someone.

·        Being fully Demonized is when evil spirits take over someone.

·        Being Tormented can happen externally, or internally, inside the soul.

·        Whenever tormentation is prolonged (and hard to defeat) it is usually because it is inside the soul as a type of “strong hold” (2Co_10:4-5), and it needs to be breathed out.

·        Demonization is always internal, as a takeover of the (entire) emotional and spiritual capacity of a person. -- and that’s NOT what we are focusing on here!

·        Being Demonized is not just being stuck in a Rut, it means being totally and fundamentally lost, and walking on the totally wrong path to begin with, and needing an initial basis of clean salvation to even get started in the right direction.*

·        Your soul is who you are individually in this life in terms of how you feel and live and experience life.

·        Your spiritual capacity is who you are a part of corporately in terms of how you relate to God and the rest of the spiritual realm.

·        Your spiritual capacity is the most important and defining aspect of your identity because it determines what god you serve and represent with your life and the direction of your eternal destiny.

·        Being Tormented is trouble with someone’s soul (as seen with righteous Lot and others), and being demonized is a takeover of someone’s spiritual capacity (and you can’t have the Holy Spirit there at the same time!).

·        You can’t have two Lords -- contrary to numerous exorcists…

·        When the most spiritual things about you are demonic, you need a new Lord.

·        In this “Rut” Bible study, we are not focusing on being Demonized (taken over by demonic manifestations, etc.) but we are focusing on different levels of being Tormented.

·        Using breathing events on yourself to get out of a rut (for example) simply means facing torments against your soul, not the total demonization of your spiritual capacity.

 

It is often when you are believing is when you get the most resistance to getting things out.

You want to fight demons with virtues and not circumstances, because circumstantial victories are given and can be taken away. You want virtues to rage a conscientious warfare against demons.

 

* As we said previously, “By the time a person gets so wickedly overrun from the unresisted opposition and unsound temptation from the devil (Joh_13:2), that they enter into possession (Joh_13:27), then they are considered “apostate” from the faith (Act_1:25) and disqualified as Jesus’ disciple until and unless there may be repentance and freedom unto life.

 

** Yelling to Escape Tormentation

 

Luk_23:46, Act_7:59, Act_7:60

 

Screams vs. Yelling

 

You can use Breathing Events on yourself to expel torments, and you can command a breathing out of others who are demonized

 

Long-term Triumph vs. Immediate Victories -- Believing Truth for Long-term Freedom vs. Breathing Zeal for Winning the Immediate Battle

·        Breathing events are no replacement for long-term truth and big healing and victory, but they are a way to cooperate with faith in kicking evil out.

·        Breathing events (in and of themselves) only help kick out evil at the moment that you need them to go.

·        Keeping evil Out Requires your doctrine to be fortified in truth -- that means you often have to fundamentally change in the deepest parts of your heart and soul!

·        Although the use of breathing events is only one small tool for getting out of a rut, it is a neglected one, and a confused one, and it is a small tool that can sometimes need lots of explanation.

·        Although the use of breathing events might seem small at first, it might tilt the scales just enough for a weak person to win more battles.

·        Breathing events might indeed be relatively small, but add them on top of the big weapons of knowing and believing the truth of goodness, and you can do a lot with breathing events to get out of some ruts.

 

Jesus Sighed, So Must We

Got to consider the context to unlock the answer as to why Jesus sighed

 

Mar_7:34, etc. [ἐστέναξε];

Mar_8:12 [ἀναστενάξας τῷ πνεύματι αὐτοῦ]

Raising Lazarus: (A) Joh_11:33 [ἐνεβριμήσατοG1690 τῷ πνεύματι] (B) Joh_11:35 [ἐδάκρυσεν] (C) Joh_11:38 [πάλιν ἐμβριμώμενοςG1690 ἐν ἑαυτῷ] (C) Joh_11:43 [εἰπὼν φωνῇ μεγάλῃ ἐκραύγασε]

[Exo_2:23; Eze_21:6-7; Heb_5:7; Isa_53:3; Luk_19:41]

 

Pulpit: “we might almost have expected a momentary smile of loving joy when he was about to give back to this afflicted man the use of these valuable instruments of thought and action. But he sighed even then…”

[Wesley heresy: “Christ had a perpetual fund of power residing in himself, to work all miracles whenever he pleased, even to the raising the dead”]

 

Heb_4:15 – Jesus faced the same temptations as we do

 

Jesus "had smoke blown in his face", and we should seek to exhale it too

Rom_8:23 [καὶ ἡμεῖς αὐτοὶ ἐν ἑαυτοῖς στενάζομεν]; 2Co_5:2 [στενάζομεν], 2Co_5:4 [στενάζομεν]; Heb_13:17 [μὴ στενάζοντες]; Jam_5:9 [μὴ στενάζετε κατ᾿ ἀλλήλων]

 

The Point of Jesus Sighing

·        Jesus sighed lest the negative feelings, and moral evils of others, seep deeper into His sinless soul.

·        Jesus sighed in disapproval and intolerance of the evil, which was seeking prolonged/extended acceptance/tolerance by Him.

·        Jesus breathed out negative feelings when “smoke was blown in his face”.

·        We should also seek to get everything out of us that wars against our souls and threatens to destroy our faith and coerce us to sin.

·        A bad breath held in too long establishes itself as a stronghold, so do whatever breathing you can to get them out as swiftly as morally possible.

 

Jesus Breathing Out His Own Spirit

12/3/16

 

Ironically, Jesus’ climatic breathing event was when He breathed out His own righteous spirit* -- and we are seeking to breath out other spirits that do not lawfully belong in our bodies.

 

Luk_23:46 CAB   And Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, "Father, 'into Your hands I will commit My spirit [τὸ πνεῦμά μου].' " And after He said these things, He expired [ἐξέπνευσεν].

Luk_23:46  καὶ φωνήσας φωνῇ μεγάλῃ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἶπε· πάτερ, εἰς χεῖράς σου παρατίθεμαι τὸ πνεῦμά μου· καὶ ταῦτα εἰπὼν ἐξέπνευσεν.

εις χειρας σου Aπαρατιθεμαι TSBπαραθησομαι το πνευμα μου Aτουτο TSBκαι Aδε TSBταυτα ειπων εξεπνευσεν

 

Mar_15:37: εξεπνευσεν

 

Things to Learn From Jesus Breathing Out His Own Spirit

·        We have seen that Jesus “out-spirited” (blew out) His Spirit.

·        While His “exiting Spirit” was infinitely clean, this spiritual “exit” through breathing also happens to show us some general insight on how all spirits & spiritual activity can work -- including our own spirit, good spirits, and even unclean spirits.

·        When a person breaths out their own spirit their body dies (Jas_2:26; Psa_104:29; Psa_146:4, Ecc_12:7,  Luk_23:46, Act_7:59, Act_7:60)

·        Whenever a person might breathe out a bad spirit, they can die to the flesh & sin. (That’s why crucifixion and spiritual warfare can go good together).

·        If anyone breaths out a second-party spirit, they reposition their faith.

 

Puffs of Soul and Spirit – Puffs That Remind Us of the Blowing Natures of Soul and Spirit

Other date(s); 12/18/16; 12/24/16-12/25/16 (presented)

Rut-Part-8--Breathing-Events--B--12.25.16.mp3

>> where to put this? as a re-into?

 

Puffed into a Living Soul

Gen_2:7 WEB  Yahweh God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed [ויפח – נפח – nâphach (H5301)] into his nostrils the breath [נשׁמת – נשׁמה – neshâmâh (H5397)] of life; and man became a living soul [לנפשׁ (H5315)].

Gen_2:7 CAB  And God formed the man of the dust of the earth, and breathed [ἐνεφύσησεν (same as Joh_20:22)] into his nostrils [πρόσωπον] the breath [πνοὴν] of life, and man became a living soul [εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν].

Gen_2:7  καὶ ἔπλασεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν ἄνθρωπον χοῦν ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς καὶ ἐνεφύσησεν εἰς τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ πνοὴν ζωῆς, καὶ ἐγένετο ὁ ἄνθρωπος εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν.

 

Puffed into Spirit – Jesus Breathed/Spirited On Them

Joh_20:22 CAB  And when He had said this, ·He breathed on them [ἐνεφύσησε – Lex: ἐμφυσάω (ἐν + φυσάω), (same as Gen_2:7)], and said to them, "Receive [λάβετε – take hold of] the ·Holy Spirit [Πνεῦμα ῞Αγιον].

Joh_20:22  καὶ τοῦτο εἰπὼν ἐνεφύσησε καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς· λάβετε Πνεῦμα ῞Αγιον·

 

Soul of Adam and Spirit of Jesus

1Co_15:45 CAB  Thus also it is written, "The first man Adam became a living soul [εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν];" the last Adam became a life-giving spirit [εἰς πνεῦμα ζῳοποιοῦν].

1Co_15:45  οὕτω καὶ γέγραπται· ἐγένετο ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ᾿Αδὰμ εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν· ὁ ἔσχατος ᾿Αδὰμ εἰς πνεῦμα ζῳοποιοῦν.

 

We Want to Blow Bad Winds/Spirits Out of Our Souls

·        “Blowing winds” / spirits look for every opportunity to influence us as much as they can externally, and then,

·        to whatever degree anyone might ever slightly cooperate with them, they look and seek how they might jump as deep inside as they possibly can.

·        Cooperation may also lead to tormentation.

·        If you keep cooperating with tormentation, you may very well end up fully demonized like Judas.

 

 

Things I Partly Know: Breathing Events Work

Other dates; 12/3/16; 12/17/16-12/18/16; 12/24/16-12/26/16

http://www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#BreathingEventsWork

 

Although I am very willing and eager to describe how breathing events mystify me, yet I am also still eager to bring out the fact that they still work, and they are at least partly indicated in the Bible (as torment-ation and the examples given below)

 

·        “Soul” pertains to breathing (and sometimes “puffing”), etc., and “spirit” pertains to blowing (as in “wind”), etc.

·        Both spiritual and soul-ish things generally pertain to moving through the air (as also seen in Eph_2:2 below).

·        We can often use our basic understanding about “breathing” and “blowing things” to help us get free.

·        I don’t understand it all, I just know that Breathing Events work way more than they are ever typically used.

·        I have been greatly mystified by these principles, but I just know that cleanness is good, and I must pursue and promote it.

·        Examples of My Enigmas: can Jacob (and/or Paul? -- 2Co_1:9) prophesy while having spirits of sorrow/death opposing/oppressing them?

·        Jacob bore trouble, even “spiritual death”, from lies over many years… what do we make of all this?
and when Jacob finally heard the truth, ‘his spirit revived’…/ ‘alive-up-fire-again-ed:
“the spirit of Jacob, their father, revived [Gr: Alive-up-fire-again-ed].” (Gen_45:27 WEB) / [ἀνεζωπύρησεν τὸ πνεῦμα Ιακωβ τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῶν]

·        The long-held sorrow of his soul suppressed the very life of his spirit so that it needed to be revived again -- we are talking about a major rut! …and yet, who can accuse him of wrong?

·        Reminder note: this is why there is No “Breathing Incrimination” Allowed Among the Faithful

·        Notice that Jacob did not “manifest” anything, but something of his breath (blowing spirit-wind) was made alive and healed -- he had some kind of a breathing event.

·        It does not say if he gasped, sighed, or something else; it just tells us that the blowing of his spirit-wind (which includes his breathing/blowing) was intensely affected/changed/revived/alive-up-fire-again-ed. -- and that is exactly what we want, especially all the more when doing intentional spiritual warfare.

·        How does Jacob’s sorrow compare with Paul’s trial when he was bearing the “sentence of death” (2Co_1:8-10; 2Co_7:5-8, etc., 2Co_7:13-16; [2Co_1:3-7]), and not being refreshed until he saw Titus?

·        [and how does this compare with Jesus’ “death sentence” when being done/made into sin, even to the point of entering hell?]

·        How much are we called to bear sorrow and evil while sitting next to Job?

·        At what point do we finally say that enough evil is enough deception already, and it’s got to go now!?

·        Breathing events can partly be an “exiting ceremony” for whatever you are no longer willing to tolerate.

·        In some cases, being open (in faith), or not being open, could very well make the difference between whether you get somewhere or if you stay stuck/enslaved for days, weeks, months, or years…

·        In some cases in particular, if I pray for you to be helped against demons, you may never get free (and embrace it by faith) unless you are faithful to breath it out.

·        Many people need to seriously seek to use this proactive advantage more.
(ie breathing events and trusting each other more)

·        As soon as justice/faith happens, things can change.

·        As soon as you start believing against dirt/evil/falsehood, you might just breathe it out.

·        I would that we would be ambitious/determined/believing/perceptive toward Breathing Events

 

2Ti_1:16 CAB  May the Lord grant [δῴη] mercy to the household [οἴκῳ] of Onesiphorus, because [ὅτι] he often [πολλάκις] refreshed [ἀνέψυξε] me, and he was not ashamed [ἐπαισχύνθη] ·of [that of] my chain [τὴν ἅλυσίν];

2Ti_1:16  δῴη ἔλεος ὁ Κύριος τῷ ᾿Ονησιφόρου οἴκῳ, ὅτι πολλάκις με ἀνέψυξε καὶ τὴν ἅλυσίν μου οὐκ ἐπαισχύνθη,

2Ti_1:17 but when he arrived in Rome, he more diligently sought me out and found me.

2Ti_1:17  ἀλλὰ γενόμενος ἐν ῾Ρώμῃ σπουδαιότερον ἐζήτησέ με καὶ εὗρε·

2Ti_1:18 May the Lord grant to him to find mercy from the Lord in that Day--and you very well know how many ways he served in Ephesus.

2Ti_1:18  δῴη αὐτῷ Κύριος εὑρεῖν ἔλεος παρὰ Κυρίου ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ· καὶ ὅσα ἐν ᾿Εφέσῳ διηκόνησε, βέλτιον σὺ γινώσκεις

 

“Winds” in the Bible Which We Don’t Want to Tolerate in Us At All

Other dates; 10/12/16; 11/20/16; 12/18/16; 12/24/16-12/25/16

 

We have seen Jesus (and Steven) breathing out their good spirit, but we want to use this particularly (for the purposes of this Bible study) to learn how to breathe out bad spirits.

 

Demons and their parent fallen angels operate through the airways of:

·        the earth’s atmosphere / wind (“spirit”), and,

·        through the spirit-wind of men that blows through (and stays in) their body (in one form or the other)

 

Ephesians 2 – Devil = Arch-Ruler (Prince?) and Authority of the Air (esp. in this cursed/evil age)

Eph_2:2 LB  in which you formerly walked ·according to the course [ongoing/perpetual age] of this world [κατὰ τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ κόσμου τούτου], according to the prince of the power of the air [κατὰ τὸν ἄρχοντα τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος], the spirit [πνεύματος] that is now working in [ἐνεργοῦντος] the sons of disobedience [ἀπειθείας],

Eph_2:2 Greek  ἐν αἷς ποτε περιεπατήσατε κατὰ τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ κόσμου τούτου, κατὰ τὸν ἄρχοντα τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος, τοῦ πνεύματος τοῦ νῦν ἐνεργοῦντος ἐν τοῖς υἱοῖς τῆς ἀπειθείας·

 

·        We do not want any of this “air” in us.

·        Compare this idea with Peter when Jesus said, “get behind me satan”.

 

TSK on air: Job_1:7, Job_1:16, Job_1:19, Rev_16:17

 

Revelation 16 – A Willing Possession Comes Out of Mouth

Rev_16:13 CAB  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the False Prophet.

Rev_16:13 Greek  Καὶ εἶδον ἐκ τοῦ στόματος τοῦ δράκοντος καὶ ἐκ τοῦ στόματος τοῦ θηρίου καὶ ἐκ τοῦ στόματος τοῦ ψευδοπροφήτου πνεύματα τρία ἀκάθαρτα ὡς βάτραχοι·

 

Although this is more like “willing possession” in the spirit, we want to be very unwilling to let any of this be in our soul to begin with.

 

John 14 – The Arch-Ruler Has Nothing in Jesus

Joh_14:30 CAB  …the ·[arch] ruler [ἄρχων] ·of the [that of this] world [ὁ τοῦ κόσμου] is coming, and he has nothing in Me [ἐν ἐμοὶ οὐκ ἔχει οὐδέν].

Joh_14:30 Greek  οὐκέτι πολλὰ λαλήσω μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν· ἔρχεται γὰρ ὁ τοῦ κόσμου ἄρχων, καὶ ἐν ἐμοὶ οὐκ ἔχει οὐδέν·

 

·        We don’t want any of this wind in us.

 

absolute problem with the (more limited/temporary) influence displayed through

 

Don't Force Your Breath

11/10/16; 11/12/16; 11/20/16; 12/18/16; 12/24/16-12/25/16

 

Don't try to naturally force anything out with the brute strength of your soul, and so be soul-ish, but be spiritual & perceptive.

 

Breathing events Need the Same Propriety as managing tongues & prophecy:

don't make it up, but if you see the possibility, then be proactive.

 

Tongues Are like prophecy: you usually still have to choose it, but at the same time, it is a flow from heaven which earth cannot effectively fabricate. --

So also here when breathing: look for things that you can be proactive with, and as long as you catch on to how these spiritual things work, it can work quite readily, just as fast as believing and being spiritual.

 

Activate The Airways -- Sighing, Yawning, Burping, Etc.

Other dates; 10/12/16; 11/20/16; 12/18/16; 12/24/16-12/25/16

 

Here is where we rap this all up and get ready to apply some faith and evicting warfare.

 

·        When we talk about Breathing Events, we include sighing, yawning, and even burping, etc.

·        Goal: breath in the good faith/truth, exhale “smoke” (i.e. letting go of / sending away / releasing / dismissing negative/bad/destructive/insane/untrue feelings and spirits).

·        Disclaimer 1: Although it might seem like there “is a demon behind every bush”, in most cases there is definitely not “a demon behind every breathing event”.

·        Disclaimer 2: God made the airways to be fully active and functional before demons came into being.

·        Disclaimer 3: Although “demons and their parent fallen angels operate through the airways”, they do not automatically occupy all airways.

·        Disclaimer 4: You can do plenty of breathing (and even “breathing gymnastics”) without “exhaling a demon”, and, likewise, a demon can leave without a noticeable breathing event, but you should still be spiritual and perceptive so that you might evict/push/kick out/away demons through breathing events.

·        We might find ourselves overly-nervous about this at first because our upbringing typically mis-associates “breathing out/away demons” exclusively with casting out / exorcizing evil spirits from “possessed people”.

·        We often don’t want to feel that “dirty” / admit we could be that guilty / messed up, so as to need to “breath out an unclean spirit out from our heart and soul”, but favor and winning is given unto the humble, those who refuse to save face, and only want the truth no matter what.

·        Besides, Breathing Events can happen even when you are not dirty at all.

·        But back on the other hand, in other cases, some breathing events will only work with a very humbling acknowledgement of how dirty you have become, and with a potent determination to drastically change from what you are now disgusted with.

·        Don’t ever be offended at the truth.

·        It will make you free to love the truth, love the truth raw.

·        Your refusal to believe you need to breath sin and dirt out of you can it can ultimately mean your permanent downfall -- so if you ever find yourself in this spot, get zealous, repent, and believe the truth!

·        Can we do this with knowledge/cleanness without going crazy / getting superstitious, esp. against each other?

·        ‘if you judge yourself, you will not be judged’ -- We all have this same goal for each of us.

·        When praying for yourself, you should seek to determine how guilty you may be (esp. during the “repentance” & humility parts of the swift procedure).

·        When praying for others, you should often seek to completely put all accusations against the patient out of your heart, because you cannot be a savior to someone while entertaining their enemies.

·        We want to always insist on leaving room for other people to judge themselves -- lest our nasty old self gets even more defiled in meddling with “another man’s servant”, esp. when we should (instead) be serving them.

·        Exhalation (and inhalation) should be spiritual, and not just soul-ish.

·        We are not interested in forcing “breathings” to happen (this can easily be done without faith), but we are interested in being spiritual and responsive and even proactive for whenever doors are open to those who are perceptive, taking along with us zeal and faith and wisdom, to kick things out/away and get change moving.

·        Whenever something darkening/evil/untrue has been stuck in you, then pray to breathe it out.

·        Listen spiritually for a faithful (and spiritually active) sigh, yawn, burp, etc.

·        Especially listen & seek breathing events when resisting/standing against/commanding evil & believing that it has to leave.

·        (Remember: by this point, you should have already humbled yourself and repented in the swift procedure, and now you have absolute faith requirements upon you to believe that evil has to flee when you take a stand against it by faith).

·        Seek to exhale an evil breath out by faith, and apprehend relief.

·        Get loving and faithful so that your spiritual “gag” reflexes allow you to smile at the truth and yawn out the evil that once tormented, terrified, and hurt you.

·        You can repent/reject/oppose and possibly breathe out false identities and suddenly have justice/truth/faith abilities that were not there before.

·        Once you successfully boot out/away a third-party spirit, your "identity" orientation can instantly change, because a pseudo-identity just left you! [with or without a breathing event].

·        Breathing Events can do a lot to instantly get you out of a rut, especially when built on top of believing the truth.

·        Believe and know what you need to call out by name -- that’s the main thing, then the rest is downhill from there

 

 

--------------- Extra Notes:

Just Imagine the Potential of Apprehending Breathing Events

12/24/16

·          If any of us catch on to breathing events for helping their own soul, I wonder how fast it might accelerate their helps, relief, and progress.

·          This might be one way to access leverage in a concrete way so that your will is definitely no longer cooperating with evil, and is expressly choosing good works and doing the will of God.

·          Breathing events can tilt the scales enough to make your entire day absolutely different, and full of righteousness and good fruits and favor under God.

 

Identity: Think: the icon of him who made him (Col_3:10 (Eph_4:24))… forgetting what lies behind (Php_3:13-14)

 

Movement is generally good.

 

In General, Ideally: take lots of deep breaths throughout the day

 

WIKI on Signing

“A sigh is a kind of paralinguistic respiration in the form of a deep and especially audible, single exhalation of air out of the mouth or nose, that humans use to communicate emotion… It often arises from a negative emotion, such as dismay, dissatisfaction, boredom, or futility.[10] A sigh can also arise from positive emotions such as relief,[12] particularly in response to some negative situation ending or being avoided. Like a gasp, a yawn, or a moan, a sigh is often an automatic and unintentional act.[10]

 

…Scientific studies show that babies sigh after 50 to 100 breaths. This serves to improve the mechanical properties of lung tissue, and it also helps babies to develop a regular breathing rhythm. Behaviors equivalent to sighing have also been observed in animals such as dogs, monkeys, and horses.”

 

 [provoke yourself to the closes prophetic thing accessible to you ]

 

 

Stop Working Postures -- Esp. for the Faithful Poor

Earlier dates; 9/2/16; Other dates; 11/05/16-11/6/16; 11/12/16; 12/17/16

www.TrueConnection.org/BibleStudies/Spiritual-Interface.html#StopWorkingPostures

>>Verify:

Rut-Part-8--Stop-Working--11.26.16.mp3

Rut-Part-7-b--Breathing Events--11.26.16.mp3

Old: Rut-Part-7-a--Stop-Working--and--Breathing Events--11.26.16.mp3

 

 

stand still = a type of rest to end fear

Exo_14:13 WEB  Moses said to the people, "Don't be afraid. Stand still, and see the salvation of Yahweh, which he will work for you today: for the Egyptians whom you have seen today, you shall never see them again.

Exo_14:13 CAB  And Moses said to the people, Be of good courage: stand still and see the salvation of the Lord, which He will work for us this day; for as you have seen the Egyptians today, you shall see them again no more forever.

Exo_14:13  εἶπεν δὲ Μωυσῆς πρὸς τὸν λαόν Θαρσεῖτε· στῆτε καὶ ὁρᾶτε τὴν σωτηρίαν τὴν παρὰ τοῦ θεοῦ, ἣν ποιήσει ἡμῖν σήμερον· ὃν τρόπον γὰρ ἑωράκατε τοὺς Αἰγυπτίους σήμερον, οὐ προσθήσεσθε ἔτι ἰδεῖν αὐτοὺς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα χρόνον·

Exo_14:14 Yahweh will fight for you, and you shall be still."

Exo_14:14 The Lord shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace.

Exo_14:14  κύριος πολεμήσει περὶ ὑμῶν, καὶ ὑμεῖς σιγήσετε.

 

 

2 Notes: Prerequisites Before Going Further into Rut Warfare

 

If you still seem stuck after humility, repentance, and warfare, check your Spiritual Work Ethic.

Believing truth might be accomplished by the postures of “Stop working”

 

How do Eager vs. Lazy People “Stopped Working”?

Other dates; 11/6/16

·        This point can apply somewhat differently depending on if you are talking to eager people or lazy people

 

[Getting Humble also includes a clean faith and bold pursuit of forgiveness of all sins and even strongholds.]

 

Sample References to Remind Us of Righteous Rest

Other dates; 11/05/16-11/6/16; 11/19/16

 

Not Doing Our Own Works When Striving In Warfare

There are, of course, many more examples we could give about “resting from your own works”, but here are just a few sample references to quickly remind us and stir us toward postures of not doing our own works, especially whenever we might be seeking to strive in warfare to get out of ruts:

 

Isa_7:4 WEB  Tell him, 'Be careful, and keep calm. Don't be afraid, neither let your heart be faint because of these two tails of smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin and Syria, and of the son of Remaliah.

Isa_7:4 CAB  And you shall say to him, Take care to be quiet, and fear not, neither let your soul be disheartened because of these two smoking firebrands; for when My fierce anger is over, I will heal again.

Isa_7:4  καὶ ἐρεῖς αὐτῷ Φύλαξαι τοῦ ἡσυχάσαι καὶ μὴ φοβοῦ, μηδὲ ἡ ψυχή σου ἀσθενείτω ἀπὸ τῶν δύο ξύλων τῶν δαλῶν τῶν καπνιζομένων τούτων· ὅταν γὰρ ὀργὴ τοῦ θυμοῦ μου γένηται, πάλιν ἰάσομαι.

 

Isa_26:2 WEB  Open the gates, that the righteous nation may enter: the one which keeps faith.

Isa_26:2 CAB  Open the gates, let the nation enter that keeps righteousness, and keeps truth,

Isa_26:2  ἀνοίξατε πύλας, εἰσελθάτω λαὸς φυλάσσων δικαιοσύνην καὶ φυλάσσων ἀλήθειαν,

Isa_26:3 You will keep whoever's mind is steadfast in perfect peace, because he trusts in you.

Isa_26:3 supporting truth, and keeping peace; for on You, O Lord,

Isa_26:3  ἀντιλαμβανόμενος ἀληθείας καὶ φυλάσσων εἰρήνην. ὅτι ἐπὶ σοὶ

Isa_26:4 Trust in Yahweh forever; for in Yah, Yahweh, is an everlasting Rock.

Isa_26:4 they have trusted with confidence forever, the great, eternal God;

Isa_26:4  ἤλπισαν, κύριε, ἕως τοῦ αἰῶνος, ὁ θεὸς ὁ μέγας ὁ αἰώνιος,

 

[Just MT:

Isa_30:7 WEB  For Egypt helps in vain, and to no purpose; therefore have I called her Rahab who sits still.

Isa_30:7 CAB  The Egyptians shall help you utterly in vain; tell them, This your consolation is vain.

Isa_30:7  Αἰγύπτιοι μάταια καὶ κενὰ ὠφελήσουσιν ὑμᾶς· ἀπάγγειλον αὐτοῖς ὅτι Ματαία ἡ παράκλησις ὑμῶν αὕτη.]

 

Isa_30:15 WEB  For thus said the Lord Yahweh, the Holy One of Israel, "You will be saved in returning and rest. Your strength will be in quietness and in confidence." You refused,

Isa_30:15 CAB  Thus says the Lord, the Holy Lord of Israel; When you shall turn and mourn, then you shall be saved; and you shall know where you were, when you trusted in vanities; then your strength became vain, yet you would not hearken;

Isa_30:15  οὕτω λέγει κύριος ὁ ἅγιος τοῦ Ισραηλ Ὅταν ἀποστραφεὶς στενάξῃς, τότε σωθήσῃ καὶ γνώσῃ ποῦ ἦσθα· ὅτε ἐπεποίθεις ἐπὶ τοῖς ματαίοις, ματαία ἡ ἰσχὺς ὑμῶν ἐγενήθη. καὶ οὐκ ἠβούλεσθε ἀκούειν,]

 

Isa_32:17 WEB  The work of righteousness will be peace; and the effect of righteousness, quietness and confidence forever.

Isa_32:17 CAB  And the works of righteousness shall be peace; and righteousness shall ensure rest, and the righteous shall be confident forever.

Isa_32:17  καὶ ἔσται τὰ ἔργα τῆς δικαιοσύνης εἰρήνη, καὶ κρατήσει ἡ δικαιοσύνη ἀνάπαυσιν, καὶ πεποιθότες ἕως τοῦ αἰῶνος·

 

Psa_125:1 WEB  Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion, which can't be moved, but remains forever.

Psa_125:1 CAB  A Song of Degrees. They that trust in the Lord shall be as Mount Zion: he that dwells in Jerusalem shall never be moved.

Psa_125:1  (124:1) Ὠιδὴ τῶν ἀναβαθμῶν. Οἱ πεποιθότες ἐπὶ κύριον ὡς ὄρος Σιων· οὐ σαλευθήσεται εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα ὁ κατοικῶν Ιερουσαλημ.

 

Mat_11:28-30 – the good, kind yoke of truth

 

And don’t forget:

 

 

Happiness & Zeal Can Sometimes Help You Repent

9/2/16; 11/6/16; 11/12/16

 

Happiness is Somewhat related to rest.

 

 

 

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unfaithful Mourning

 

Comparing and Contrasting Elijah

 

 

 

Doing Spiritual Warfare on Each Other

10/3/16-10/5/16; 10/23/16; 1/8/17

 

Most of what we have said so far has been focused on individual application, but I don’t want to be negligent on the matter of helping each other when there is so much potential in it to get out of a rut.

 

Jesus can throw demons out of those who are demonized, and similarly, how much more readily can we help throw each other's tormentors away when we have cooperation and agreement, and we are not actually demonized?

[Compare: Tormented vs. Demonized]

 

Jesus & James Promote Agreement & Authoritative Forgiveness

(A) Jesus: where two or three of you agree: Mat_18:18-22 --

·        Includes agreement: Mat_18:18-20, and,

·        Includes forgiveness: Mat_18:21-22, etc.

·        Mat_18:18 – “will be bound” vs. “has already been perfectly bound” (Greek) -- comp. KJV with WEB, CAB, ALT, YLT, LITV, MLV, & WPNT

 

(B) James: confess and pray for one another: Jas_5:14-16, Jas_5:20, etc.

·        this expresses a Scriptural ideal and glory of vulnerable and faithful community faith and interdependence

·        Big question: why are the Catholics sometimes (somewhat) trying to do this more than us?

 

 

Praying For Each Other Involves…

11/5/16

 

·         'asking the elders (and the youngers) to pray for you'

·         believing with warm and encouraging love that we are warmly persuaded that this is going to work

·         love and faith/faithfulness make all the difference in heaven

·         praying in faith and zeal together

·         this is NOT the time to 'struggle with social inhibitions'

·         now is the time to love someone else sacrificially enough to get zealous

·         get more determined to be heard than when praying for your own soul -- love your neighbor as yourself, and your brother more than yourself...

 

have favor in this!

come back to a first love!

get eager and move with love to believe and save your sister!

 

Getting faithful and loving and optimistic for each other

 

praying life for one another

faithful intercession like Samuel

get zealous like V praying for my wrist, and get faith to the point of mighty encouragement of full persuasion -- then we'll win!

“Calming down from Pentecostalism” is not actually the goal with truth -- we are actually seeking to have a righteous zeal that surpasses the hypocrites in order to be saved.

 

 

The Potency We Have Not Yet Fully Apprehended

·        There are many good things at work within us, but there is a whole, whole lot more we could do…

·        The great majority of all ruts can be readily broken with agreement, sometimes counseling, love, and spiritual warfare.

·        We can be each other’s absolutely dynamite secret weapon to overcome all levels of debilitations.

·        We are behind in this.

·        we have not even been doing 1/3 of what is very available for us,

·          There is a lot that we have done, such as Al helping H in prayer, for example (one of the bigger potencies among us), but there is a whole, whole lot more we could do…

 

We can change and actually apprehend this by…

·        Loving each other more

·        Getting zealous to trust and believe in each other

·        Pulling down despising so we can always hit up warfare and have the safety of each other’s faith guarding our backs

 

Oh, if we just had eager faithfulness into each other…

 

To do spiritual warfare on each other, you need eager potent innocence that loves and trusts each other for super help beyond the inability of your own soul.

 

We Need More of the Favor that has Worked in those Less Faithful Than Us!

·        Old brothers: Pat & Jason & myself were very eager and effective at helping each other get unstuck.

·        This favor, and more also besides, is absolutely essential if we want all glory out of this world.

·        I have seen people who are a whole lot less spiritual than all of us, still yet do more than most of us in receiving spiritual help from me, and doing spiritual help into me. -- and these things ought not to be so!

·        All of us are way beyond anything 1st Assembly ever dreamed.

·        Almost everything that hinders us from doing more is completely unnecessary.

 

Get zealous. Have faith. And be for each other, and then you will have comparatively very little problem saving and being saved by the help given through each other.

 

When we get righteous in this area, we will even be able to lay hands on each other and throw out what we can't throw out individually... imagine what that shinning and exciting glory could be like...

 

Let’s get rid of doubt and despising, and get eagerly faith-ing into each other so that we will all be powerful and effective at healing and saving each other from demons.

 

The Significance of Mini-Rut-Battles in Spiritual Warfare

9/14/16

 

12/27/16

repenting in faith, even for the bad feeling your flesh thought you weren't responsible for, makes a huge difference.

i have had a bit more of that in recent seasons.

sp gag reflexes can mk things leave even at this "early stage" before even officially resisting

 

Defeating Bad Feelings

What it Can Look Like to Defeat Bad Feelings

10/4/16; 10/16/16

>> Defeating Bad Feelings

 

Getting Re-Saved All Over Again

 

Acts 16 – Philippian Jailor Rejoiced!

Act_16:33 CAB  And taking them along [παραλαβὼν] in that same hour of the night and washed [ἔλουσεν] their wounds [πληγῶν], and immediately [παραχρῆμα] he and all his family [αὐτὸς καὶ οἱ αὐτοῦ πάντες] were baptized [ἐβαπτίσθη].

Act_16:33 Greek  καὶ παραλαβὼν αὐτοὺς ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ τῆς νυκτὸς ἔλουσεν ἀπὸ τῶν πληγῶν, καὶ ἐβαπτίσθη αὐτὸς καὶ οἱ αὐτοῦ πάντες παραχρῆμα,

Act_16:34 CAB  And ·bringing [leading] them up [ναγαγών] into his house [εἰς τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ], he set a meal before them; and he rejoiced [ἠγαλλιάσατο] ·with his whole house [πανοικεὶ], having believed in [the] God [πεπιστευκὼς τῷ Θεῷ].

Act_16:34 Greek  ἀναγαγών τε αὐτοὺς εἰς τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ παρέθηκε τράπεζαν, καὶ ἠγαλλιάσατο πανοικεὶ πεπιστευκὼς τῷ Θεῷ.

>> Sync: Baptism | Rut / SPW | Hospitality

 

Acts 8 – Ethiopian Eunuch Rejoiced!

Act_8:39 CAB  Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught up Philip, and the eunuch did not see him any longer; and he went on his way rejoicing.

Act_8:39  ὅτε δὲ ἀνέβησαν ἐκ τοῦ ὕδατος, Πνεῦμα Κυρίου ἥρπασε τὸν Φίλιππον, καὶ οὐκ εἶδεν αὐτὸν οὐκέτι ὁ εὐνοῦχος· ἐπορεύετο γὰρ τὴν ὁδὸν αὐτοῦ χαίρων.

 

Why should people be “happy” when they come to the truth?

Where does all of this rejoicing come from?

 

Isaiah 12 – The Wells of Salvation

Isa_12:1 WEB  In that day you will say, "I will give thanks to you, Yahweh; for though you were angry with me, your anger has turned away and you comfort me.

Isa_12:1 CAB  And in that day you shall say, I will bless You, O Lord; for You were angry with me, but You have turned aside Your wrath, and have pitied me.

Isa_12:1  Καὶ ἐρεῖς ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ἐκείνῃ Εὐλογήσω σε, κύριε, διότι ὠργίσθης μοι καὶ ἀπέστρεψας τὸν θυμόν σου καὶ ἠλέησάς με.

Isa_12:2 Behold, God is my salvation. I will trust, and will not be afraid; for Yah, Yahweh, is my strength and song; and he has become my salvation."

Isa_12:2 Behold, my God is my Savior; I will trust in Him, and not be afraid; for the Lord is my glory and my praise, and has become my salvation.

Isa_12:2  ἰδοὺ ὁ θεός μου σωτήρ μου κύριος, πεποιθὼς ἔσομαι ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ καὶ σωθήσομαι ἐν αὐτῷ καὶ οὐ φοβηθήσομαι, διότι ἡ δόξα μου καὶ ἡ αἴνεσίς μου κύριος καὶ ἐγένετό μοι εἰς σωτηρίαν.

Isa_12:3 Therefore with joy you will draw water out of the wells of salvation.

Isa_12:3 Therefore draw water with joy out of the wells of salvation.

Isa_12:3  καὶ ἀντλήσετε ὕδωρ μετ᾿ εὐφροσύνης ἐκ τῶν πηγῶν τοῦ σωτηρίου.

 

Read the great following context!

 

TSK: Isa_55:12, Isa_57:17, Isa_57:18, Isa_58:7-11, Isa_61:10, Luk_15:22-25, Luk_15:32, Rom_5:2, Rom_5:11, Rom_15:13, Gal_5:22, Phi_4:4, 1Pe_1:6-8

 

[Heb_3:6 CAB  but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the boast of hope firm until the end.

Heb_3:6  Χριστὸς δὲ ὡς υἱὸς ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ, οὗ οἶκός ἐσμεν ἡμεῖς, ἐάνπερ τὴν παρρησίαν καὶ τὸ καύχημα τῆς ἐλπίδος μέχρι τέλους βεβαίαν κατάσχωμεν. ]

 

 

We are saved again whenever we may defeat real guilt and rescued, delivered, and saved again whenever we defeat phantom guilt.

 

Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

Return to: Summary-Review of Anti-Rut Warfare

 

When Seeking to get out of a rut…

>> Add New content!!

 

Since cycling through the “swift procedure” covers both the humility of repentance and the warfare of resistance, it covers both Phantom Guilt and real guilt.

 

Conclusions

 

 

Do Some Warfare Like This

Some Ideas You Can Do to Stop Striving

Earlier dates; 9/2/16; 11/6/16

·        Resort/return to potentially appropriate/proper spiritual and faithful ways to cease from your own works / stop working

 

>>Scrip:

>> David's rut ...also: lo -- i.e. “letteral” applications of David’s Letteral Example

 

Stop Demons From Coming Back

8/14/16

 

Big Problem: Spiritual Warfare is Not Always Permanent for Everyone

 

Maintenance Needs vs. Needing Real Freedom

 

Defining Our Goal

(A) Coming Back is a Problem: Mat_12:38-45; Luk_11:16-36 – Found the house Swept clean _

(B) Don’t Come Back is the Goal: (Mat_17:14, etc.); Mar_9:25 – Come out of him and never return again

[It is always on them, not on Jesus: Mat_8:2; Mar_1:40-42]

 

Make your house not be “empty”/vulnerable.

This is the way rental units seem to work… (with my Dad and Bro)

As soon as / to the degree you believe truth, untruth cannot come back in.

 

Sometimes: faith peaks at its height enough to get evil out, but then later in the day or week someone might slump back down from discouragement/depression, and then evil seems to be crouching at their door waiting for the opportunity to come right back in as soon as possible (it thinks of the person as its house -- gross!)

 

Prioritize your permanent doctrine to be truly orthodox all the way down in the depth of your heart.

Example: Reject depression, which is deep-set doubt/hurt/fear/anxiety

 

Summary of Summary on Mini Spiritual Warfare

 

 

Rejoicing in Hurting Demons

9/17/13

 

- i saw satan fall like lightening

- devils knew they could be torchered

 

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7/15/16

Lev_16:29 KJV+  And this shall beH1961 a statuteH2708 for everH5769 unto you: that in the seventhH7637 month,H2320 on the tenthH6218 day of the month,H2320 ye shall afflictH6031 (H853) your souls,H5315 and doH6213 noH3808 workH4399 at all,H3605 whether it be one of your own country,H249 or a strangerH1616 that sojournethH1481 amongH8432 you:

Lev_16:29 “And this shall be a perpetual statute for you; in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble your souls, and shall do no work, the native and the stranger who abides among you.

Lev_16:29  Καὶ ἔσται τοῦτο ὑμῖν νόμιμον αἰώνιον· ἐν τῷ μηνὶ τῷ ἑβδόμῳ δεκάτῃ τοῦ μηνὸς ταπεινώσατε τὰς ψυχὰς ὑμῶν καὶ πᾶν ἔργον οὐ ποιήσετε, ὁ αὐτόχθων καὶ ὁ προσήλυτος ὁ προσκείμενος ἐν ὑμῖν.

>> re context… get other key verses…

 

 

 

Get humble

Stand against devil.

Stop working.

Ask for forgiveness

Throw bad things out.

 

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5/21/16

 

All that turmoil and death -- all because of being led to hear a lie…

All you need to do is hear the right words, and you cn be alive again.

 

Gen_45:25 KJV+  And they went upH5927 out of Egypt,H4480 H4714 and cameH935 into the landH776 of CanaanH3667 untoH413 JacobH3290 their father,H1

Gen_45:25 And they went up out of Egypt, and came into the land of Canaan, to Jacob their father.

Gen_45:25  Καὶ ἀνέβησαν ἐξ Αἰγύπτου καὶ ἦλθον εἰς γῆν Χανααν πρὸς Ιακωβ τὸν πατέρα αὐτῶν

Gen_45:26 KJV+  And toldH5046 him, saying,H559 JosephH3130 is yetH5750 alive,H2416 and heH1931 is governorH4910 over allH3605 the landH776 of Egypt.H4714 And Jacob's heartH3820 fainted,H6313 forH3588 he believedH539 them not.H3808

Gen_45:26 And they reported to him, saying, “Your son Joseph is living, and he is ruler over all the land of Egypt.” And Jacob was amazed, for he did not believe them.

Gen_45:26  καὶ ἀνήγγειλαν αὐτῷ λέγοντες ὅτι Ὁ υἱός σου Ιωσηφ ζῇ, καὶ αὐτὸς ἄρχει πάσης γῆς Αἰγύπτου. καὶ ἐξέστη ἡ διάνοια Ιακωβ· οὐ γὰρ ἐπίστευσεν αὐτοῖς.

Gen_45:27 KJV+  And they toldH1696 H413 him(H853) allH3605 the wordsH1697 of Joseph,H3130 whichH834 he had saidH1696 untoH413 them: and when he sawH7200 (H853) the wagonsH5699 whichH834 JosephH3130 had sentH7971 to carryH5375 him, the spiritH7307 of JacobH3290 their fatherH1 revived:H2421

Gen_45:27 But they spoke to him all the words uttered by Joseph, whatsoever he said to them; and having seen the chariots which Joseph sent to take him up, the spirit of Jacob their father revived [ἀνεζωπύρησεν].

Gen_45:27  ἐλάλησαν δὲ αὐτῷ πάντα τὰ ῥηθέντα ὑπὸ Ιωσηφ, ὅσα εἶπεν αὐτοῖς. ἰδὼν δὲ τὰς ἁμάξας, ἃς ἀπέστειλεν Ιωσηφ ὥστε ἀναλαβεῖν αὐτόν, ἀνεζωπύρησεν τὸ πνεῦμα Ιακωβ τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῶν.

Gen_45:28 KJV+  And IsraelH3478 said,H559 It is enough;H7227 JosephH3130 my sonH1121 is yetH5750 alive:H2416 I will goH1980 and seeH7200 him beforeH2962 I die.H4191

Gen_45:28 And Israel said, “It is a great thing for me if Joseph my son is yet alive. I will go and see him before I die.”

Gen_45:28  εἶπεν δὲ Ισραηλ Μέγα μοί ἐστιν, εἰ ἔτι Ιωσηφ ὁ υἱός μου ζῇ· πορευθεὶς ὄψομα αὐτὸν πρὸ τοῦ ἀποθανεῖν με.

 

 

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3/21/16

 

God does not take every spiritual voice He hears at face value, and neither should you!

 

Gen_18:20 KJV+  And the LORDH3068 said,H559 BecauseH3588 the cryH2201 of SodomH5467 and GomorrahH6017 is great,H7231 and becauseH3588 their sinH2403 is veryH3966 grievous;H3513

Gen_18:20 And the Lord said, “The cry of Sodom and Gomorrah has reached My ears, and their sins are very great.

Gen_18:20  εἶπεν δὲ κύριος Κραυγὴ Σοδομων καὶ Γομορρας πεπλήθυνται, καὶ αἱ ἁμαρτίαι αὐτῶν μεγάλαι σφόδρα·

Gen_18:21 KJV+  I will go downH3381 now,H4994 and seeH7200 whether they have doneH6213 altogetherH3617 according to the cryH6818 of it, which is comeH935 untoH413 me; and ifH518 not,H3808 I will know.H3045

Gen_18:21 I will therefore go down and see, if they completely correspond with the cry which comes to Me, and if not, I will know.”

Gen_18:21  καταβὰς οὖν ὄψομαι εἰ κατὰ τὴν κραυγὴν αὐτῶν τὴν ἐρχομένην πρός με συντελοῦνται, εἰ δὲ μή, ἵνα γνῶ.

 

 

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See: G500

 

YEARS OF CHRISTIANITY

In the following years of Christianity, Hellenism as paganism presented demonology that far line the word "demon" with the meaning of "insider." This has been developed in detail the issue concerning "goods, prudent and wise Greek demons." In this section refers here only the example of neoplatonic philosophers with Chaldaean reasons or oracles and the passage 147a: "Thrust me the real Asclepius, dicha Whose contrast planodaimonos" (Send me the true Asclepius, removing any opposite demon who seduces.) (5).

ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΙΣΜΟΥ

Στα κατόπιν του Χριστιανισμού χρόνια, ο ελληνισμός ως παγανισμός παρουσίασε δαιμονολογία που κάθε άλλο παρά συνάδει τον όρο «δαίμων» με την σημασία του «γνώστη». Αυτό έχει αναπτυχθεί αναλυτικότερα στο ζήτημα περί των «αγαθών, συνετών & σοφών ελληνικών δαιμονίων». Από αυτή την ενότητα αναφέρεται εδώ μόνο το παράδειγμα των νεοπλατωνικών φιλοσόφων με τους Χαλδαϊκούς λόγους ή χρησμούς και το απόσπασμα 147α: «Πέμψον μοι τὸν ἀληθινὸν Ἀσκληπιόν, δίχα τινὸς ἀντιθέου πλανοδαίμονος» (Στείλε μου τον αληθινόν Ασκληπιόν, απομακρύνοντας κάθε αντίθετον δαίμονα που αποπλανά.) (5).

http://www.apologitis.com/gr/ancient/glossa.htm

1/6/16

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MT: Goats / Demons

Other dates; 3/26/16

Lev_17:7 ;

2Ch_11:15

Dan_8:21?

 

WS: “Used as the emblem of wicked men because of their inferior value (Mat_25:32 [cf. Lev_16:5-26])”

 

Isa_13:21 KJV+  But wild beasts of the desertH6728 shall lieH7257 there;H8033 and their housesH1004 shall be fullH4390 of doleful creatures;H255 and owlsH1323 H3284 shall dwellH7931 there,H8033 and satyrs [shaggy/goat]H8163 shall danceH7540 there.H8033

Isa_13:21 LB But wild beasts shall rest there; and the houses shall be filled with howling; and monsters shall rest there, and demons shall dance there,

Isa_13:21  καὶ ἀναπαύσονται ἐκεῖ θηρία, καὶ ἐμπλησθήσονται αἱ οἰκίαι ἤχου, καὶ ἀναπαύσονται ἐκεῖ σειρῆνες, καὶ δαιμόνια ἐκεῖ ὀρχήσονται,

 

 

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11/27/14

 

Demons coming out w a Shriek

how is it that the virtue of one man can out do the overrun state of another man and change his defeated will toward truth? So a demon is thrown out, and a man shrieks a cry as the defeated demon exits his will.

Exorcism light – maybe not a shriek, but a yelling that renounces the will of evil

 

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Levels of 'possession'

Satan had already put it in the heart of Judas

Satan entered Judas

act5:3 - filled

act5:4 - you arranged it is your heart

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5/4/14

Rom_16:17-19, etc.

 

Rom_16:18 - BBS: SOM: DO (as a slave!)

 

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BBS: Pray/ BBS: Spiritual Warefare

11/27/13; 12/29/13

 

Isa_42:13-14 CAB The Lord God of hosts shall go forth, and crush the war; He shall stir up jealousy, and shall shout mightily against His enemies. 14 I have been silent; shall I also always be silent and forbear; I have endured like a travailing woman; I will now amaze and wither at once.

 

one of the things that gets you feeling like you are stuck in a rut and cannot get out, is not maintaining a high security system to protect your booders/ letting things just slip into your head unchecked.

 

 

 

3/26/13

H: btw there seems to be something special about doing spiritual warfare verbally, even if its under your breath. so

H: sorry...ao

H: sorry my phone can be too finicky sometimes...I was trying to say that atleast for me somehow getting atleast a wisper out of my mouth when doing spiritual warfare works way better than doing something in my head. I was wondering if this was the case for everyone. If it is does this have to do with bringing things out into being with your words?

 

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I need to add something like:

How Do I recognize what is demonicly influenced in my life so that I can renounce it in spiritual warfare?

Discernment

God’s Goodness

Everything that is not sound

Anything that makes you want to disobey, or makes you feel chained and compulsed to do or believe contrary to the Bible. Almost always when you “cannot seem to shake it,” you need to resist the devil.

 

Future additions:

 

Add strategic and hierarchical nature of demons

Wrestle not against…flesh blood… but….

 

Demons - 

they can have strongholds without possession:

 

so...

‘do not let the devil have a foot hold’ because ‘we are not ignorant of his devices’

 

 

Defeat Fear

How to Face Demons and Take Persecution with Faith and Joy

>> Additions -- DefeatFear

 

12/11/10-12/12/10 (Started it sometime earlier that week); 12/28/10; 1/22/11-1/23/11; (3/5/11); 6/19/12 (No Social Shame – where is this now?); 12/29/12-1/1/13 (No Worry); 5/16/13-5/17/13; 6/27/13 (SOM: No Worry / Sufficient); 8/14/13 (No Worry again); 5/31/16 (Rom_8:15); 7/22/18-7/28/18; other dates (seen below);

 

General No Fear Passages

1Jo_4:18  – “Perfect Love Casts Out All Fear”

Psa_62:1-8

Psa_91:1-16

 

Pro_3:21, Pro_3:23-24

 

Isa_12:2

Isa_35:4

Joh_14:27

2Ti_1:7

Rom_8:14-19, esp. Rom_8:15

Psa_56:3

 

No Fear, Only Faith / Do not fear, only believe: Mar_5:36/Luk_8:50

>> Sync multiple occurrences herein

 

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Jdg_7:3 WEB  Now therefore proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, Whoever is fearful and trembling, let him return and depart from Mount Gilead. There returned of the people twenty-two thousand; and there remained ten thousand.

Jdg_7:3 LB  And now speak in the ears of the people, saying, ‘Who is afraid and fearful? Let him turn and depart from Mount Gilead.’” And there returned of the people twenty-two thousand, and ten thousand were left.

Jdg_7:3  καὶ νῦν λάλησον δὴ ἐν ὠσὶν τοῦ λαοῦ λέγων Τίς ὁ φοβούμενος καὶ δειλός; ἐπιστρεφέτω καὶ ἐκχωρείτω ἀπὸ ὄρους Γαλααδ καὶ ἐπέστρεψεν ἀπὸ τοῦ λαοῦ εἴκοσι καὶ δύο χιλιάδες, καὶ δέκα χιλιάδες ὑπελείφθησαν.

 

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>> Love The Offence, And you Will be Free From Fear of Persecution! -- moved to LLO

 

Rom_8:15 CAB For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again unto fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father."

Rom_8:15  οὐ γὰρ ἐλάβετε πνεῦμα δουλείας πάλιν εἰς φόβον, ἀλλ᾿ ἐλάβετε πνεῦμα υἱοθεσίας, ἐν ᾧ κράζομεν· ἀββᾶ, ὁ πατήρ.

Rom_8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

Rom_8:16  αὐτὸ τὸ Πνεῦμα συμμαρτυρεῖ τῷ πνεύματι ἡμῶν ὅτι ἐσμὲν τέκνα Θεοῦ.

 

Sir_2:12-14 Brenton  Woe be to fearful hearts, and faint hands, and the sinner that goeth two ways!  13  Woe unto him that is fainthearted! for he believeth not; therefore shall he not be defended.  14  Woe unto you that have lost patience! and what will ye do when the Lord shall visit you?

 

 

Embrace Providence to Defeat Fear

& why we are pursuing it…

Resolving to Trust Providence within the New Covenant

7/22/18; other date; 7/27/18-7/29/18 (initial presentation); 8/2/18

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-1--7.29.18.mp3

File:///C:\Files\Proclamation\Spiritual-Interface\Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-1--7.29.18.mp3

 

About this Embrace

 

Practical Aspects as we Teach

·        BBS: Defeating Fear / WkEth -- this is a hybrid overlap

·        Please make notes in chat

·        Toward the beginning I have a lot of explaining to do, and then as we get further, there are more Scriptures and examples to give.
(This does not replace and might not supply daily Bible reading)

 

Pending Treasures

·        This BBS is in a state of development.

·        In some aspects I have answers.

·        In other aspects I need answers.

·        In many aspects I have answers, but I still need more answers.

·        In the meantime, I am seeking to uncover some secrets to the goals which we theoretically think we are supposed to have.

·        I am trying to enable our knowledge so that we can have a strong & more thorough Foundation to always be spiritual and persuaded fully in the Truth.

 

Goal: Bullet-Proof Faith

A Basis For Bullet Proof Faith

 

Not my will, but Yours be done: Mat_26:39; Mar_14:36; Luk_22:42; Joh_6:38

 

If The Creator helps us, we are on course in seeking to apprehend a whole new depth and spiritualness to this saying…

 

Premature Contractions

·        Remember what I pressed us toward when my wife was having premature contractions with our first son?

·        I am very grateful that I had been wrestling through these types of fears before getting married.

·        Getting married meant to me that I absolutely could not worry about the loss of life in seeking to produce life.

·        Note: there is an important sense in which I had to “distance” myself from (responcibility for controling / determining) the results and focus by faith solely on my responsibility… (remember Abraham?)

 

Now we just need to consistently apply this “crisis faith” and subjection in these extreme cases to every (other) part of life…

Moving from “crisis fear” to “crisis faith” starts right here with your daily work ethic, and your most basic concepts of success…

 

Describing The Divine Conspiracy

 

A Paradoxical Embrace

·        Trusting Providence and yet Strict Responsibility -- these two Biblical realities are definitely paradoxical, but both are necessary in their extreme for virtue and ultimate success...

·        Diligent hands (typically) bring wealth (Pro_10:4), but,

·        Now let's also consider a deeper and more elusive answer to life...

 

It’s Not For Vanity, But it is a Conspiracy

·        There is an extremely important sense in which you are assigned tasks that are aimed toward a practical goal, but The One who assigned you these tasks does not actually primarily care about whether you personally achieve them or not.
(That doesn’t mean He doesn’t care about your feelings of value and success at all, just that your actual achievement means very little in and of itself, unless it can be used as a testimony or something.)

·        This Paradox is like a Parent & Child: Imagine a parent telling a child to “walk to mommy” -- it is the effort that counts, even if mommy has to finish the walk for them
(and a day come when the righteous will be complete and perfectly grown, and then they will not only walk, but fly!)

·        The Creator has told you to get from point A to point B, but then He is actually standing back and concentrating and deeply thinking and pondering on your performance throughout the process in between.

·        Is He not able to instantly and powerfully do everything way better than us? Isn’t He overqualified to even make us to succeed with superpowers to easily jump over every challenge?

·        To stay hired in some smaller companies in some seasons you have to personally distance yourself from the success or failure of the business...

·        If you are stuck in a small business, you often got to fight for self-control to bite your tongue and be strategic and remember what your real goals are!

·        Your ultimate goal has to be to advance even if your current employment situation does not provide room for temporary success along the way.

·        In some sense you are not being paid a salary or a percentage based on your success or the success of the company, but an hourly wage which is not directly tied to what the outcome of the business is.

·        So endure. Save up what funds you need. Do your best in the meantime (lest you get fired and that negatively affects or endangers future employment) and by all means remember your hope and ultimate goal.

·        Story: I met a former coworker in Dollar tree who no longer had a job.
When I asked her what she was doing now, she said she was “taking care of so-and-so’s lawn...”
The Cause of this: She had previously helped the business succeed, and when newer management came along she would not tolerate their recklessness.
Be careful where you are invested and where you get successful. It may land you without a job so that you never have the funds to ultimately succeed…

·        Again, this Divine work ethic conspiracy is much like the case interviews for Consultants that I started learning about when researching more about corporate businesses...

·        Suppose you are now interviewing for a bigger company and they give you a simulated problem to solve (a “case interview”) in order to test your problem solving skills and see you in action to determine if they want to permanently higher you to be on their team and work with you every day.

·        Part of the mystery behind this divine conspiracy is that we seem to be living a life which seems has successes and failures based on the good things and the bad things of this age, but when this "simulation" is all over, in a very vital sense, nothing will be left and nothing will matter except how we behaved and performed along the way... (and that performance is measured in units of virtue, not strength or practical success).

·        Somebody has got to finally learn how to stay focused on the real goal of this test so that we can be qualified and approved to finally move out of these debased jobs we live in. What good would it do to solve the simulation (“case interview”) and never get hired?

·        This is not that “the ends justify the means” but rather that “the means justify the ends”*.

·        If children were to play volley ball in the back yard, good parents don’t even want them to compete against each other, or get wrapped up in the game, they just want their kids to have good behavior and love each other.
If any of the kids forget this, they can get in deep trouble and no one even cares about what the “score” was!

·        It is as though we are playing a game of success, and the Judge cares solely about who is humble, and He often despises those who theoretically win the game while missing what He actually cares about.

·        Whoever is humble (and faithful) is the True sport and the real winner of all such “games”.

 

>>Scrip:

>> take things well = the point

 

* the means justify the ends

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_end_justifies_the_means

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-quote-The-end-justifies-the-means

 

Mat_20:1-16 – Heaven’s Surprise Rules for the Distracted

·        Jesus describes the Judgement as a big surprise where the rules of winning were not at all like the people imagined.

 

Is Everything Vain Then?

·        Aren’t there real lives at stake here?

·        If they perish, is that really meaningless?

·        Yes, real lives really matter, because their preservation works out salvation for the elect, and indeed,

·        You will be held liable if they perish through your irresponsibility, but,

·        Ultimately the “results” of whether or not they live or perish does not pertain to you or your responsibility.

·        As a conclusion: You should never cheat through worry or fear or over-responsibility when seeking “success”, because the means can “corrupt the ends” (as some morally objecting philosophers have pointed out).

 

Crisis Fear is a Result of Daily Anxiety

8/5/18 (created and presented)

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-2--8.5.18.mp3

File:///C:\Files\Proclamation\Spiritual-Interface\Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-2--8.5.18.mp3

 

·        The extreme courage needed for extreme tests of faith actually starts being formed and firmed up in the normal daily life of those facing (or avoiding) any and all fears and/or worries…

·        Fearing in crisis is actually just a symptom of fearing & worrying in normal life.

·        Are you perceptive enough to imagine what you might feel like in the worst-case scenario?

·        The righteous and the wise love to think through and simulate practice tests for themselves in their hearts and minds so that when they are tested by the Master they will securely win with flying colors.

·        Winning in your prayers is shown by a life free of anxiety.

·        Defeating your worst fears makes your daily anxiety easier to push aside.

·        Both overt worry as well as “cheating your way through life” are fear-affirming sins that cause you to fail in times of crisis.

·        Do everything you can throughout life to prepare to stand throughout the worst crises, and do this by living each day in virtue and in Truth.

 

The Revealing Standard of Real Life Tells us Truth

 

Don’t Fear Hurt

Other dates; 8/5/18 (presented 1st part)

 

Defining Fearlessness, Sadness, & Willingness to Hurt

·        Many people live like they can find a way to fearlessness by avoiding everything that makes them week, sad, and hurt, but,

·        The very essence of virtuous fearlessness is standing firm in the presence of all of these negative things.

·        Someone says: I think I will be fearless by not facing anything that is fearful…On the other hand,

·        Religious people have often acted like fearlessness was carelessness (emotional detachment from the results).

·        Both of these avoidances are cheating.

·        Is the only way to “not fear” to “not care”?

·        Is “not caring” the only way to “not fearing”?

·        “Don’t Fear” ≠ “Don’t Care

·        “Don’t Fear” ≠ “Don’t Feel Sad” (be hurt), but actually,

·        “Don’t Fear” = Being Willing to Hurt & be sad

·        Being Willing to Hurt = Wisdom that Can Help Us Fight Fear!

·        Hurt = Poverty/hunger / coming behind in need, Failure (in daily life), Damage (in general), & even loss of life (ultimately)

·        The vanity of unlawful/obsessive/controlling hurt-avoidance can be at the root of untold fears…

 

>>Story: Become willing to throw up - if it looks like this is the will of God...

 

Jump into The Net!

·        Be a courageous cow and a fish that jumps into the net!

·        The stunning righteousness and redemption of Jesus caused lesser creatures to willingly and enthusiastically be eaten by greater ones.

·        Every time a hamburger is eaten, it represents a cow that was (often painfully) taken from its (animal) society, and possibly pained in the process of being killed (perhaps possibly even in some of the best scenarios).

·        Cows complain and fuss and get emotional when one of them is taken away, but most people agree that it is still fitting to eat hamburgers.

·        Why do we “draw back” in inconsistency when it is time for us to hurt or make a sacrifice?

·        While it is right to avoid the unnecessary hurts of sin, it is high time we jumped into the virtue of embracing the hurt which has been ordained for us from heaven.

·        Whenever heaven has granted you a chance to suffer (Php_1:29) on behalf of the will of God, it is high time we jumped on into this greatness!

 

Side note: notice that those who are zealous for justice find where any is lacking among humans and enthusiastically do the exact opposite of this debt in much shocking mightiness to smash down some justice on the earth! When are we going to get as zealous as those fish who were affected by Jesus?

 

1Pe_4:14 If you are reviled in the name of Christ, blessed are you, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.

1Pe_4:14  ει ονειδιζεσθε εν ονοματι χριστου μακαριοι οτι το της δοξης και το του θεου πνευμα εφ υμας αναπαυεται TSBκατα TSBμεν TSBαυτους TSBβλασφημειται TSBκατα TSBδε TSBυμας TSBδοξαζεται

1Pe_4:15  For let not anyone of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evildoer, or as a meddler in other people's affairs;

1Pe_4:15  μη γαρ τις υμων πασχετω ως φονευς η κλεπτης η κακοποιος η ως Aαλλοτριεπισκοπος TSBαλλοτριοεπισκοπος

1Pe_4:16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be put to shame, but let him glorify God in this matter.

1Pe_4:16  ει δε ως χριστιανος μη αισχυνεσθω δοξαζετω δε τον θεον εν τω Aονοματι TSBμερει τουτω

 

Rats...

Shame....

exaggerations of the difficulty

 

Cheating Hurt = Fearing Hurt

Other dates; 8/12/18

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-3--8.12.18.mp3

 

>>Scrip:

1Sa_13:8 – Saul did not wait for Samuel Long Enough

>> Levite Cheated at the end of Judges!

 

What is Cheating?

·        Heaven often providentially places hurtful scenarios upon you that contradict (or at least seem to contradict) and ruin your goals.

·        To avoid hurtful providences, you often have to cheat and break rules.

·        Interestingly enough, you CAN actually, temporarily cheat the (desired) will of God, but don’t congratulate yourself!

·        Cheating = Pursuing your goals by breaking rules

·        Cheating = compromising virtue to gain an advantage

·        Cheating = doing what you want instead of what is right

·        Doing things the most (temporarily) successful way instead of doing things the most virtuous way

·        Prioritizing temporary immediate short-term results and success over long-term righteousness/respectable-ness/honorable-ness
(This is shadowed by preferring benefits before/without investing to gain sufficient understanding)

·        Instant Technology provides so many more opportunities to cheat!

·        Cheating = Seeking Success first / Wrong Priorities (applies to any goal at all, weather financial or even caring for others)

·        Cheating can be as overt as being a Rock and Pop Star or it can be as subtle as choosing to prioritize pragmatics over prayer.

·        Cheating can =

·        going faster than virtue

·        Going on throughout your day without resolving your conscience.

·        Prayerlessness, irresponsibility, mis-priorities, caring about & pursuing unneeded comforts/affirmations, etc.

·        Getting rich/prosperous/successful faster by neglecting justice &/or doing injustice.

·        Buying a sandwich you cannot really afford to avoid temporary hunger.

·        Narcissism/ARPOX -- Emotional predators who use manipulation tactics to succeed in society/relationships

·        Keeping yourself strong by living beyond your means

·        Going into debt to avoid discomfort

·        Almost all willful debt is cheating

·        Cheating = Seeking to avoid what God has placed upon you (as though you can outsmart God…).

·        Story: Patrick thanked god(s) for pain killers, because it was so nice and loving of him to provide a way for us to not have to hurt.

·        What utter and pathetic disgusting vanity and foolishness…

·        Simply cheating pain can invalidate your courage and your prayers, and any basis for healing, so why so foolishly boast in your pride and luxury?

·        What is more important: Your personal goals of avoiding pain, or the will of God being done?

 

Cheating Stores Up Fear

·        For those who seem to be not worrying (while still living in sin) fear is often disguised, hidden, and covered up as “doing whatever it takes to succeed…” (cheating)

·        Remember: Nabal! (1Sa_25:37, etc.)

·        Cheating undermines all righteous courage needed to courageously embrace ordained pain.

·        A man without courage buries and cushions the pain of his anxieties under the satiation of lusts, indulgence, and unlawful comforts.

·        Subtle cheating is usually detected by the conscience - even subconsciously - and is tagged/labeled with (ignored & unresolved) fear for a future disaster.

·        Avoiding ordained pain stores up anxieties for an awful day of fear.

·        After all, you should be afraid since you have made it this far by cheating.

 

The Point: One of the definitive ways to defeat fear is to carefully repent and remove all hints of cheating.

 

Jdg_9:5He would not even have that opportunity if it weren’t for the righteous reputation of his dad…

 

Prospering Wisdom vs. Fear-Affirming Cheating

Other date(s) (seen above); 8/18/18

The Subtle Difference That Adds Up and Takes it’s Toll!

 

2 Methods for Avoiding Bad

·        Be happy and rejoice to avoid bad circumstances by wisdom.

·        Good/wise avoidance of bad: foresee evil and prevent it from getting really bad: Pro_22:3 (esp. MT), Pro_27:12

·        Do not be happy to avoid hardship by cheating -- this is motivated by vain fear/apprehension.

·        This brings up the question of how much* life-support should we use if someone’s life seems to be already fading away… (especially when God has ordained that men should die…)
(* notice I did not say we should not use life-support)

·        Key Example: Aren’t blood transfusions cheating?

 

H: Work Question

Thanks for caring great proclaimed Sir. I had a question maybe for next time. Does that mean that I should just work at this job and not be concerned about whether I leave or not?

Also does that mean you can pray and stuff and not be afraid of your health failing. I think I still have an unresolved conflict somewhere with health stuff and prayer etc”

(H in Chat, Sun 7:00pm, 7/29/18, Underlines added)

 

V: Stomach Issues

·        bulldoze prayer?

·        Tend to stomach things first?

·        General Answer: let pain motivate toward better schedule.

 

Remember: Not Fearing ≠ Not Caring

Big Question: What are you responsible for?

 

>>Scrip:

>> all things for life and good reverence

 

·        Taking care of your stomach ulcer

·        Responsible management of your body

·        If you are spiritual, your only resolve will be submitting to hurt IF it is the will of God.

 

1Pe_3:16 having a good conscience, so that in what they speak against you as evildoers, those reviling your good conduct in Christ may be put to shame.

1Pe_3:16  συνειδησιν εχοντες αγαθην ινα εν ω Aκαταλαλεισθε TSBκαταλαλωσιν TSBυμων TSBως TSBκακοποιων καταισχυνθωσιν οι επηρεαζοντες υμων την αγαθην εν χριστω αναστροφην

1Pe_3:17  For it is better to suffer for doing good, if [ει] it is the will of God, than for doing evil.

1Pe_3:17  κρειττον γαρ αγαθοποιουντας ει BAθελοι TSθελει το θελημα του θεου πασχειν η κακοποιουντας

1Pe_3:18 For Christ also suffered once to atone for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring you to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive by the Spirit,

1Pe_3:18  οτι και χριστος απαξ περι αμαρτιων επαθεν δικαιος υπερ αδικων ινα BAυμας TSημας προσαγαγη τω θεω θανατωθεις μεν σαρκι ζωοποιηθεις δε TSτω πνευματι

>> Sync: SPI | PFO

 

>> see: Being Rescued from Persecution & Avoiding Martyrdom

Peter: good to suffer if it is the will of God

 

·        What this allows us to do is objectively focus on the facts without getting all tangled up in all the potential emotional strains and confusions of each situation.

·        Make logical and objective decisions based on the facts, not subjective and whimsical feelings.

 

Being Faithful with A Little Fearlessness

If we can start right where we are at, then we have a basis to hope to be ready for the ultimate sacrifice.

 

Bulletproof Fearless Theology -- for Everyone

Bulletproof Theological Reasons For Absolutely No Fear Of Any Circumstance

Embrace Providence to Defeat Fear -- Continued

Other date(s); 8/3/18; 8/18/18; 8/19/18

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-4--8.19.18.mp3

 

I know these things are easier said than done, but we can at least start by intentionally committing our knowledge toward the Truth…

 

Don’t Fear Anything

·        God can instantly heal your disease whenever it pleases him, and raise you from the dead, and even pull you straight up out of hell, and,

·        The Blessed Creator Works everything out for the good of those who love him intentionally (Rom_8:28), so…

·        Don't fear poverty, jail, famine nakedness or sword (Rom_8:35, etc.)

·        there is absolutely nothing of any circumstance that can ever possibly happen that is so bad that it should be taken seriously enough to be afraid of...

 

Don’t Fear Man

·        NEW>> Deu_31:6; Psa_27:1-3; Pro_29:25; 1Pe_3:13-14

·        Psa_56:1-4 <<<NEW (LO), Psa_56:11; Psa_118:5-7, etc.; Heb_13:5-6 – I will not fear what man can do to me

·        Mat_10:28, Luk_12:4 – don't fear those who can destroy the body but afterwards cannot destroy the soul

 

Pro_29:25 WEB  The fear of man proves to be a snare, but whoever puts his trust in Yahweh is kept safe.

Pro_29:25 Those who fear and reverence men have been overthrown, but he that trusts in the Lord shall rejoice. Ungodliness causes a man to fall, but he that trusts in the Lord shall be safe.

Pro_29:25  φοβηθέντες καὶ αἰσχυνθέντες ἀνθρώπους ὑπεσκελίσθησαν· ὁ δὲ πεποιθὼς ἐπὶ κύριον εὐφρανθήσεται. ἀσέβεια ἀνδρὶ δίδωσιν σφάλμα· ὃς δὲ πέποιθεν ἐπὶ τῷ δεσπότῃ, σωθήσεται.

 

1Sa_15:24 – Saul

 

Don’t Fear What Might Happen to Others

·        “Not fearing man” is an absolute standard which not only applies to you individually, but also to those you may be protecting.
(especially as seen in the 2nd bullet point above)

·        Notice the particular value of each statement: “what man can do to me” (applies to me) vs. “those who can destroy” (applies to them)

·        Think about it: if you were allowed to fear for the sake of others, then you would absolutely have to fear man who can only destroy the body...

·        The only possible way to not fear man absolutely necessarily logically includes not fearing what may happen to others as well as yourself...

·        Warm up with the Council of Paul who exhorted people that through many trials we must enter into the kingdom of heaven (Act_14:22)

·        Don't even fear what bad can happen to others, because only those who believe can be saved in the end anyway...

·        Don’t fear so much what might could happen to them in this life, but pray that they would be righteous!
(Then you will be operating in faith instead of fear)

 

>> Ideal: Jesus in garden to deliver his disciples

But what happens when this is NOT THE WILL of GOD?

 

Peter’s Hope Gives Sufferers Salvation From Sin (i.e. the REAL Jesus)

1Pe_4:1 CAB  ·Therefore, since [οὖν] Christ [Χριστοῦ] suffered [παθόντος] ·for [TSBὑπὲρ] us [ὑμῶν |TSBημων|] ·in the flesh [σαρκὶ], you also ·arm yourselves [ὁπλίσασθεV-AMM-2P] ·with the same mind [τὴν αὐτὴν ἔννοιαν], because [ὅτι] ·he who [ὁ] suffered [παθὼν] ·in [TSBεν] the flesh ·has ceased [πέπαυταιV-RPI-3S] ·from sin [ἁμαρτίαςN-GSF],

1Pe_4:1  Χριστοῦ οὖν παθόντος TSBὑπὲρ ὑμῶν |TSBημων| σαρκὶ καὶ ὑμεῖς τὴν αὐτὴν ἔννοιαν ὁπλίσασθεV-AMM-2P, ὅτι ὁ παθὼν |TSBεν| σαρκὶ πέπαυταιV-RPI-3S ἁμαρτίαςN-GSF,

>> Sync: SPI | SRP (Multiple occurrences)

 

Note: Peter’s epistles are all about encouraging others to be faithful in suffering persecution.

 

Cooperating and being willing to hurt (embracing the experience of passionately “suffering in flesh” like Anointed One did) makes you stop sinning.

 

Peter’s Reputation: Remember the (Monotheistic) Lord

Warning: we have this tradition through a heretic, but can we still see any truth through it nevertheless?

 

“They say, accordingly, that the blessed Peter, on seeing his wife led to death, ·rejoiced [and here can we see the heresy?] on account of her call and conveyance home, and called very encouragingly and comfortingly, addressing her by name, “Remember thou the Lord.” Such was the marriage of the blessed and their perfect disposition towards those dearest to them.70

Thus also the apostle says, “that he who marries should be as though he married not,” (1Co_7:29. S.) and deem his marriage free of inordinate affection, and inseparable from love to the Lord; to which the true husband exhorted his wife to cling on her departure out of this life to the Lord.

Was not then faith in the hope after death conspicuous in the case of those who gave thanks to God even in the very extremities of their punishments? For firm, in my opinion, was the faith they possessed, which was followed by works of faith.

In all circumstances, then, is the soul of the Gnostic strong, in a condition of extreme health and strength, like the body of an athlete.

    For he is prudent in human affairs, in judging what ought to be done by the just man; having obtained the principles from God from above, and having acquired, in order to the divine resemblance, moderation in bodily pains and pleasures. And he struggles against fears boldly, trusting in God. Certainly, then, the gnostic soul, adorned with perfect virtue, is the earthly image of the divine power; its development being the joint result of nature, of training, of reason, all together. This beauty of the soul becomes a temple of the Holy Spirit, when it acquires a disposition in the whole of life corresponding to the Gospel. Such an one consequently withstands all fear of everything terrible, not only of death, but also poverty and disease, and ignominy, and things akin to these; being unconquered by pleasure, and lord over irrational desires. For he well knows what is and what is not to be done; being perfectly aware what things are really to be dreaded, and what not. Whence he bears intelligently what the Word intimates to him to be requisite and necessary; intelligently discriminating what is really safe (that is, good), from what appears so; and things to be dreaded from what seems so, such as death, disease, and poverty; which are rather so in opinion than in truth.

    This is the really good man, who is without passions; having, through the habit or disposition of the soul endued with virtue, transcended the whole life of passion. He has everything dependent on himself for the attainment of the end. For those accidents which are called terrible are not formidable to the good man, because they are not evil. And those which are really to be dreaded are foreign to the gnostic Christian, being diametrically opposed to what is good, because evil; and it is impossible for contraries to meet in the same person at the same time. He, then, who faultlessly acts the drama of life which God has given him to play, knows both what is to be done and what is to be endured.”

[In e-Sword at 2.05.46 (ANF, Vol 2) -- Clement of Alexandria (Cont.), The Stromata, Or Miscellanies. (Cont.), Book VII. (Cont.), Chap. XI. - Description of the Gnostic’s Life.]

>> Sync: SPI | OUC

 

Acts_14:22 – Suffering is the Way into The Kingdom

Act_14:21 CAB  And having preached the gospel to that city and having made many disciples, they returned to Lystra, and Iconium, and Antioch,

Act_14:21  Εὐαγγελισάμενοί τε τὴν πόλιν ἐκείνην καὶ μαθητεύσαντες ἱκανοὺς ὑπέστρεψαν εἰς τὴν Λύστραν καὶ |Aεις| ᾿Ικόνιον καὶ |Aεις| ᾿Αντιόχειαν,

Act_14:22 CAB strengthening [ἐπιστηρίζοντεςV-PAP-NPM] the souls [τὰς ψυχὰς] of the disciples, urging them [παρακαλοῦντεςV-PAP-NPM] ·to continue [ἐμμένεινV-PAN – be remaining (present tense)] in the faith, ·saying, "[καὶ ὅτι – and that: “]Through many tribulations [διὰ πολλῶν θλίψεων] we ·must [δεῖV-PAI-3S] · [(in) going into] enter into [εἰσελθεῖν V-2AAN εἰς PREP] ·the kingdom of [the] God [τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ]."

Act_14:22  ἐπιστηρίζοντεςV-PAP-NPM τὰς ψυχὰς τῶν μαθητῶν, παρακαλοῦντες ἐμμένειν τῇ πίστει, καὶ ὅτι διὰ πολλῶν θλίψεων δεῖ ἡμᾶς εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ.

Act_14:23 And having chosen elders for them in every church, and having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.

Act_14:23  χειροτονήσαντες δὲ αὐτοῖς TSBπρεσβυτέρους κατ᾿ ἐκκλησίαν |Aπρεσβυτερους|, προσευξάμενοι μετὰ νηστειῶν παρέθεντο αὐτοὺς τῷ Κυρίῳ εἰς ὃν πεπιστεύκασι.

>> Sync: SPI | LLO | Dis

 

A Church Hypocrite might protest and claim that only j.c. is the way…

But isn’t Jesus the suffering servant?

Isn’t Jesus The Way?

 

We Are Counted As Sheep For The Slaughter

 

Rom_8:36 Just as it is written: "For Your sake we are put to death the whole day long; we are accounted as sheep for slaughter."

Rom_8:36  καθὼς γέγραπται ὅτι |BAενεκεν| TSἕνεκά σου θανατούμεθα ὅλην τὴν ἡμέραν· ἐλογίσθημεν ὡς πρόβατα σφαγῆς.

 

TSK: Isa_53:7, Jer_11:19, Jer_12:3, Jer_51:40, Act_8:32

 

As A Lamb to The Slaughter

Isa_53:6 WEB  All we like sheep have gone astray. Everyone has turned to his own way; and Yahweh has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Isa_53:6 LB  All we like sheep have gone astray; everyone has wandered in his way; and the Lord has delivered Him up for our sins.

Isa_53:6  πάντες ὡς πρόβατα ἐπλανήθημεν, ἄνθρωπος τῇ ὁδῷ αὐτοῦ ἐπλανήθη· καὶ κύριος παρέδωκεν αὐτὸν ταῖς ἁμαρτίαις ἡμῶν.

Isa_53:7 WEB  He was oppressed, yet when he was afflicted he didn't open his mouth. As a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep that before its shearers is mute, so he didn't open his mouth.

Isa_53:7 And He, because of His affliction, opened not His mouth; He was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before the shearer is silent, so He opened not His mouth.

Isa_53:7  καὶ αὐτὸς διὰ τὸ κεκακῶσθαι οὐκ ἀνοίγει τὸ στόμα· ὡς πρόβατον ἐπὶ σφαγὴν ἤχθη καὶ ὡς ἀμνὸς ἐναντίον τοῦ κείροντος αὐτὸν ἄφωνος οὕτως οὐκ ἀνοίγει τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ.

 

Note: READ full context (if providence/time permits)

 

Jeremiah 11, 12, & 51 – First The Righteous Are Slaughtered, then The Wicked

Jer_11:19 WEB  But I was like a gentle lamb that is led to the slaughter; and I didn't know that they had devised devices against me, saying, Let us destroy the tree with its fruit, and let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name may be no more remembered.

Jer_11:19 LB  But I, as an innocent lamb led to the slaughter, did not know. Against me they devised an evil device, saying, “Come and let us put wood into his bread, and let us utterly destroy him from off the land of the living, and let his name not be remembered any more.”

Jer_11:19  ἐγὼ δὲ ὡς ἀρνίον ἄκακον ἀγόμενον τοῦ θύεσθαι οὐκ ἔγνων· ἐπ᾿ ἐμὲ ἐλογίσαντο λογισμὸν πονηρὸν λέγοντες Δεῦτε καὶ ἐμβάλωμεν ξύλον εἰς τὸν ἄρτον αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐκτρίψωμεν αὐτὸν ἀπὸ γῆς ζώντων, καὶ τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ οὐ μὴ μνησθῇ ἔτι.

>> Sync: SPI | API

 

Jer_12:3 WEB  But you, Yahweh, know me; you see me, and try my heart toward you: pull them out like sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of slaughter.

Jer_12:3 LB  But You, O Lord, know me; You have tested my heart before You; purify them for the day of their slaughter.

Jer_12:3  καὶ σύ, κύριε, γινώσκεις με, δεδοκίμακας τὴν καρδίαν μου ἐναντίον σου· ἅγνισον αὐτοὺς εἰς ἡμέραν σφαγῆς αὐτῶν.

 

Jer_51:40 WEB  I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with male goats.

Jer_51:40 LB  And bring them down as lambs to the slaughter, and rams with kids.

Jer_51:40  (28:40) καταβιβάσω αὐτοὺς ὡς ἄρνας εἰς σφαγὴν καὶ ὡς κριοὺς μετ᾿ ἐρίφων.

 

1st Corinthians_13:7 – Love Always Covers/Protects Others?

KJV: Love “BearethG4722 all things” (1Co_13:7 KJV)

NIV: “It always protects” (1Co_13:7 NIV)

Greek: πάντα στέγει < στέγω (G4722 -- roof over) < στέγη (G4721) / τέγος (primary word) -- thatch/deck/roof

 

Strong’s: G4722 στέγω stegō steg'-o

From G4721; to roof over, that is, (figuratively) to cover with silence (endure patiently): - (for-) bear, suffer.

/\

G4721 στέγη stegē steg'-ay

Strengthened from a primary word τέγος tegos (a “thatch” or “deck” of building); a roof: - roof.

 

A Protected Sinner Saved by Suffering?

·        We cannot assume that all of those we are responsible for protecting will be in our faith.

·        Even if someone is trying to get into the kingdom, they should still courageously embrace ordained suffering and possible martyrdom because it is through these very things that we must enter!

·        On one hand, (as I say:) you cannot plan out when you should start obeying, you can only choose it right now, but on the other hand,

·        What if this pain and even death, as the thief on the cross, is the very thing someone were to need in order to stop sinning (like Peter says) and enter into the Kingdom (like Paul says)?

·        How do you know, oh disciple, whether (or not) this suffering will save your loved one? (1Co_7:16)

 

Profitable Suffering for Unbelievers?

·        Sometimes it is the will of God for unbelievers to suffer.

·        How do you know when it is the will of god for unbelievers to suffer?

·        When it requires cheating in order to protect them from hurt.

 

The Point: the boundary for Truly protecting others stops short in reverence before it ever trespasses the glorious call to suffer for righteousness.

 

Story: Consider what reasonings Mennonites have to go through when establishing themselves in a “turn the other cheek” posture even with raising their children!

 

Examples of What Not to Fear

Embrace Providence to Defeat Fear -- Continued

>> Mid-Point Review!!!! /\/\/\/\/\

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-a--9.16.18.mp3

 

>> see: General No Fear Passages

 

Note: one of the purposes for going through all of these examples is to demonstrate through these examples why every single case should be led by rationality into not fearing.

 

Don't Fear Wasted Work

>> Sync / see: TOC | RiFi

Compare: Work Ethic & Righteous Finances

 

The Work Paradox -- Revisited

·        There is a Divine conspiracy & paradox surrounding our work ethic.

·        This is one of those secrets to being saved from the world, the love of money, etc.

·        We have talked at length in our Work Ethic Bible study that we should be profitable, but now we have considered this paradox…

·        This is the REAL answer to working as hard and honorable as you can and leaving the results up to heaven.

 

Don’t Fear Bad Results / Loosing Stuff

·        Lot lost everything (Genesis 19), but we consider him righteous (2Pe_2:7) / blessed...

·        why do we struggle to consider ourselves blessed when we are saved from luxury?

> Story: Glass bomb

> Story: Cracked Cellphone, 9/21/18

 

The Point: Job’s faith was bullet-proof when he lost everything he had worked for. How established is our faith?

 

Defining a Fearless Work Ethic

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-b--9.30.18.mp3

·        Not fearing wasted work means maintaining a constant view upward as the motivation and purpose for your work and labor

·        When you are in a simulation, is it really the virtual product/deliverable that counts or is it the performance while making this virtual, simulated product?

·        Whether you witness and see no converts or you work for money which is later stolen, or if you build something that another tears down -- what are you working for?

 

Don't Trust in Riches

>> Sync / see: TOC | RiFi

 

Psa_49:6-9, etc.; Pro_11:28 (Pro_18:11 MT); Mar_10:24; 1Ti_6:17

Jer_49:4, Eze_28:5; Hos_10:13

 

Note: Church People act as if Jesus was correcting them when He said not to “trust” -- but in actuality He only reinforced their amazement by referencing the camel unto the point that they felt like no one could be saved…! [PART-5-e]

 

·        We might like to think we don’t trust in money, but,

·        If we worked and had nothing, we might could get worried

·        If we worked and had money, we probably wouldn’t worry

·        This can amount to trusting in money and working for money

·        Setting your heart on the results and upon receiving the value or wage of your labor leaves you wide open to trusting in riches. [PART-5-e]

·        Reframe and refocus your heart rather on the value of the virtue of the work process instead, and you will have no need to fear wasted work. [PART-5-e]

 

The Point: What should you be working for and trusting in if you want to Not Fear Wasted Work?

 

Pro_23:1 WEB  When you sit to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before you;

Pro_23:1 LB  If you sit to eat at the table of a prince, consider attentively the things set before you;

Pro_23:1  ἐὰν καθίσῃς δειπνεῖν ἐπὶ τραπέζης δυναστῶν, νοητῶς νόει τὰ παρατιθέμενά σοι

Pro_23:2 WEB  put a knife to your throat, if you are a man given to appetite.

Pro_23:2 and apply your hand, knowing that it behooves you to prepare such meats; but if you are very insatiable,

Pro_23:2  καὶ ἐπίβαλλε τὴν χεῖρά σου εἰδὼς ὅτι τοιαῦτά σε δεῖ παρασκευάσαι·

Pro_23:3 WEB  Don't be desirous of his dainties, seeing they are deceitful food.

Pro_23:3 do not desire his provisions; for these belong to a false life.

Pro_23:3  εἰ δὲ ἀπληστότερος εἶ, μὴ ἐπιθύμει τῶν ἐδεσμάτων αὐτοῦ, ταῦτα γὰρ ἔχεται ζωῆς ψευδοῦς.

Pro_23:4 WEB  Don't weary yourself to be rich. In your wisdom, show restraint.

Pro_23:4 If you are poor, do not measure yourself with a rich man, but refrain yourself in your wisdom.

Pro_23:4  μὴ παρεκτείνου πένης ὢν πλουσίῳ, τῇ δὲ σῇ ἐννοίᾳ ἀπόσχου·

Pro_23:5 WEB  Why do you set your eyes on that which is not? For it certainly sprouts wings like an eagle and flies in the sky.

Pro_23:5 If you should fix your eye upon him, he will disappear; for wings like an eagle’s are prepared for him, and he returns to the house of his master.

Pro_23:5  ἐὰν ἐπιστήσῃς τὸ σὸν ὄμμα πρὸς αὐτόν, οὐδαμοῦ φανεῖται, κατεσκεύασται γὰρ αὐτῷ πτέρυγες ὥσπερ ἀετοῦ, καὶ ὑποστρέφει εἰς τὸν οἶκον τοῦ προεστηκότος αὐτοῦ.

>> Sync: Fear  [PART-5-e] | ElTr > Heaven, Hell (Pro_23:5 LXX)

>> Sync: LUX > Enough < --- PENDING

 

 

 

Psa_62:10 WEB  Don't trust in oppression. Don't become vain in robbery. If riches increase, don't set your heart on them.

Psa_62:10 LB  Do not trust in unrighteousness, and do not lust after robberies. If wealth should flow in, do not set your heart upon it.

Psa_62:10  (61:11) μὴ ἐλπίζετε ἐπὶ ἀδικίαν καὶ ἐπὶ ἅρπαγμα μὴ ἐπιποθεῖτε· πλοῦτος ἐὰν ῥέῃ, μὴ προστίθεσθε καρδίαν.

 

TSK on Psa_62:10

Trust: ...Isa_59:4, Jer_13:25, Jer_17:11

riches: Psa_39:6, Psa_52:7, Deu_6:10-12, Deu_8:12-14, Job_27:16-23, Job_31:24, Job_31:25, Mar_8:36, Mar_8:37, Mar_10:23, Luk_12:15-21, 1Ti_6:17

set: Psa_91:14, Pro_23:5 ...Mat_13:22 - the deceitfulness Mar_10:24 - trust Luk_12:19 - Soul Col_3:2 - Set 1Pe_1:18 - vain

 

Job’s Curse for Those Trusting in Riches

Job_31:21 WEB  if I have lifted up my hand against the fatherless, because I saw my help in the gate,

Job_31:21 LB  if I lifted my hand against an orphan, trusting that my strength was far superior to his:

Job_31:21  εἰ ἐπῆρα ὀρφανῷ χεῖρα πεποιθὼς ὅτι πολλή μοι βοήθεια περίεστιν,

Job_31:22 WEB  then let my shoulder fall from the shoulder blade, and my arm be broken from the bone.

Job_31:22 then let my shoulder start from the blade bone, and my arm be crushed off from the elbow.

Job_31:22  ἀποσταίη ἄρα ὁ ὦμός μου ἀπὸ τῆς κλειδός, ὁ δὲ βραχίων μου ἀπὸ τοῦ ἀγκῶνός μου συντριβείη.

Job_31:23 WEB  For calamity from God is a terror to me. Because his majesty, I can do nothing.

Job_31:23 For the fear of the Lord constrained me, and I cannot bear up by reason of His burden.

Job_31:23  φόβος γὰρ κυρίου συνέσχεν με, καὶ ἀπὸ τοῦ λήμματος αὐτοῦ οὐχ ὑποίσω.

Job_31:24 WEB  "If I have made gold my hope, and have said to the fine gold, 'You are my confidence;'

Job_31:24 If I made gold my treasure, and if I too trusted the precious stone;

Job_31:24  εἰ ἔταξα χρυσίον ἰσχύν μου, εἰ δὲ καὶ λίθῳ πολυτελεῖ ἐπεποίθησα,

Job_31:25 WEB  If I have rejoiced because my wealth was great, and because my hand had gotten much;

Job_31:25 and if I also rejoiced when my wealth was abundant, and if I laid my hand on innumerable treasures

Job_31:25  εἰ δὲ καὶ εὐφράνθην πολλοῦ πλούτου μοι γενομένου, εἰ δὲ καὶ ἐπ᾿ ἀναριθμήτοις ἐθέμην χεῖρά μου,

Job_31:28 WEB  this also would be an iniquity to be punished by the judges; for I should have denied the God who is above.

Job_31:28 let this also then be reckoned to me as the greatest iniquity: for I should have lied against the Lord Most High.

Job_31:28  καὶ τοῦτό μοι ἄρα ἀνομία ἡ μεγίστη λογισθείη, ὅτι ἐψευσάμην ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ ὑψίστου.

 

 

>> Compare: RiFi

 

Success Ultimately Comes From God, Not You

·        Deu_8:18 – you will remember that it is God who gives you strength to gain wealth

·        Jam_1:17 – every good and perfect gift comes from above

·        There are times when we got to face up to the boundary where we are supposed to simply focus on, and attribute, everything good to the Truth

·        The results can always go either way, so stop measuring True success and contentment this way.

·        Even if results are bad this time when you thought they would win, they may be better next time when you thought they would lose (because where does success come from, after all?)

·        If we get no real credit for our success, then neither will we fear when success is broken.

·        The Point: The same good trust throughout success will also save us from all fear whenever we may fail or fall (just like it did with Job)

 

Luk_5:6; Joh_21:1-17 – Fish Jumping Into Net

·        Work all night

·        Be satisfied with your work even when heaven emphasis your irrelevance to success

·        If heaven tells you Truth, don’t ever complain!

·        If heaven sometimes provides for you in this way, what does that tell you about how your heart should always be when working?

·        After you are exhausted and spent and then success comes to you by a miracle, what should your hope be in at this point?

·        Have we learned our lesson yet?

 

The Point: If you go fishing, what should you be doing and what kind of mindset should you maintain as you seek to work?

 

Esther – Helping Even When Help Doesn’t Come from You

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-c--10.7.18.mp3

 

Est_4:14 WEB  For if you remain silent now, then relief and deliverance will come to the Jews from another place, but you and your father's house will perish. Who knows if you haven't come to the kingdom for such a time as this?"

Est_4:14 LB  For if you shall refuse to heed on this occasion, help and protection will be to the Jews from another quarter; but you and your father's house will perish. And who knows if you have been made queen for this very occasion.’”

Est_4:14  ὡς ὅτι ἐὰν παρακούσῃς ἐν τούτῳ τῷ καιρῷ, ἄλλοθεν βοήθεια καὶ σκέπη ἔσται τοῖς Ιουδαίοις, σὺ δὲ καὶ ὁ οἶκος τοῦ πατρός σου ἀπολεῖσθε· καὶ τίς οἶδεν εἰ εἰς τὸν καιρὸν τοῦτον ἐβασίλευσας;

>> Sync: SPI > Fear | RiFi | FSR > Steve T

 

To Work is a Privilege & is Not an Ultimate Cause of Success

 

The Point: If you are disposable yet your work is great, what kind of hope should you labor in?

·        I must not overrate myself

·        I must be very excited to persevere in this exciting hope

·        I must not trust in my dispensable self, yet because my privileged work is so great, I must labor endlessly in the faith of this hope

·        Exciting hope and labors of Love are the Opposite of trusting in yourself and the fearful instability which it brings.

 

Don’t Work Unfaithful Works!

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-d--10.14.18.mp3

 

Rom_4:4-5 – To Him Who Does Not Work

 

Context: Works of THE LAW

One will say “that’s your interpretation”. But to answer in KJV: “Thow fool”. You  do not know the Spirit who wrote this writing, nor do you know the Scriptures in the preceding chapter! (you are blinded by your ignorance and the uninspired chapter break…

We wrote the Scriptures and you ignorantly follow the uninspired chapter breaks which your hearitage introduced!)

Rom_3:27  Ποῦ οὖν ἡ καύχησις; ἐξεκλείσθη. διὰ ποίου νόμου; τῶν ἔργων; οὐχί, ἀλλὰ διὰ νόμου πίστεως.

Rom_3:28  λογιζόμεθα |Aγαρ| TSBοὖν TSBπίστει δικαιοῦσθαι |Aπιστει| ἄνθρωπον χωρὶς ἔργων νόμου.

NIV Lie: Rom_3:27-28: “observing the law”; Rom_4:2-6: “works”

Gal_3:12 – Law ≠ of Faith

See: Fav > WORKS-BASED SALVATION

 

Joh_6:27-29 – Don't Labor For The Bread Which Perishes

·        Jesus’ works are of faith (Joh_6:29)!

·          TSK: the meat: Joh_4:13, Joh_4:14, Ecc_5:11-16, Ecc_6:7, Isa_55:2, Hab_2:13, Mat_6:19, Mat_6:31-33, Luk_10:40-42, 1Co_6:13, 1Co_7:29-31, 1Co_9:24-27, 2Co_4:18, Col_2:22, Col_3:2, Heb_4:11, Heb_12:16, Jam_1:11, 1Pe_1:24, 2Pe_3:11-14

>TSK: many other passages herein

 

Joh_6:27  ἐργάζεσθε μὴ τὴν βρῶσιν τὴν ἀπολλυμένην, ἀλλὰ τὴν βρῶσιν τὴν μένουσαν εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον, ἣν ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ὑμῖν δώσει· τοῦτον γὰρ ὁ πατὴρ ἐσφράγισεν ὁ Θεός.

 

Sir_11:10-13

10  My son, why increase your cares,

since he who is avid for wealth will not be blameless? Even if you chase after it, you will never overtake it;

however you seek it, you will not find it.

11  One may toil and struggle and drive, and fall short all the more.

12  Another goes his way a weakling and a failure, with little strength and great misery

yet the eyes of Yahweh look favorably upon him;

he raises him free of the vile dust,

13  lifts up his head and exalts him

to the amazement of the many.

NETS: There exists one who is sluggish and in need of assistance, lacking strength ...

 

The Point: No Bad Works = No Fear of Their Judgement

·        If we “Don’t Work Unfaithful Works” then we won’t Fear them being wasted when they are inevitably burned up

·        What kind of faith and focus do we need to have in order to not do the bad works, and,

·        how can this save us from the fear of our mission being wasted?

 

Luk_15:11-32 – The Prodigal Son

>> Sync / see: TOC | RiFi

·        The Father is industrious and prosperous

·        The Father disregards money in order to love his son

·        All that time working and being creative to gain money, and then forgetting it all for the love of his son…

·        This father lost all kinds of money and was still happy in the end…

 

The Point: In this story which Jesus tells, what is this ideal Father working for? What is his work ethic?

 

Where to Work? -- The Hart-Core of this Teaching

Eph_6:8; Col_3:24 – from the Lord he will receive a reward

·        What particular faith does this require?

·        Good works are invincible!

 

Mat_24:41; Luk_17:35 – Two Women Will Be Grinding…

·        What profound work ethic do we learn from the surprise of her who wins in being taken?

 

>>>>>> Feedback & QNA

@Hd i really enjoyed that finale verse. It is very amazing that they were both doing the same work and one was doing it in faith and the other was not. Very profound. [PART-5-e]

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V: @Hd: How do you know you are doing bad works when it's things that you have to do. Example raising children [PART-5-e]

 

Jeremiah 36 – Jehoiakim Burns Jeremiah's Scroll

Evil King Jehoiakim cut Jeremiah's Scroll and threw it into the Fire

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-e--10.28.18.mp3

>>>>>> QNA /\/\/\/\

 

Jer_36:27 WEB  Then the word of Yahweh came to Jeremiah, after that the king had burned the scroll, and the words which Baruch wrote at the mouth of Jeremiah, saying,

Jer_36:27 LB  Then the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, after the king had burnt the scroll, and all the words which Baruch had written by the mouth of Jeremiah, saying,

Jer_36:27  (43:27) Καὶ ἐγένετο λόγος κυρίου πρὸς Ιερεμιαν μετὰ τὸ κατακαῦσαι τὸν βασιλέα τὸ χαρτίον, πάντας τοὺς λόγους οὓς ἔγραψεν Βαρουχ ἀπὸ στόματος Ιερεμιου, λέγων

Jer_36:28 WEB  Take again another scroll, and write in it all the former words that were in the first scroll, which Jehoiakim the king of Judah has burned.

Jer_36:28 “Again take another scroll, and write all the words that were on the scroll which King Jehoiakim has burned.

Jer_36:28  (43:28) Πάλιν λαβὲ σὺ χαρτίον ἕτερον καὶ γράψον πάντας τοὺς λόγους τοὺς ὄντας ἐπὶ τοῦ χαρτίου, οὓς κατέκαυσεν ὁ βασιλεὺς Ιωακιμ.

Jer_36:32 WEB  Then took Jeremiah another scroll, and gave it to Baruch the scribe, the son of Neriah, who wrote therein from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire; and there were added besides to them many like words.

Jer_36:32 LB  And Baruch took another scroll, and wrote upon it by the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which Jehoiakim had burned. And there were yet more words added to it like the former.

Jer_36:32  (43:32) καὶ ἔλαβεν Βαρουχ χαρτίον ἕτερον καὶ ἔγραψεν ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ ἀπὸ στόματος Ιερεμιου ἅπαντας τοὺς λόγους τοῦ βιβλίου, οὗ κατέκαυσεν Ιωακιμ· καὶ ἔτι προσετέθησαν αὐτῷ λόγοι πλείονες ὡς οὗτοι.

 

Testimony Beats “Success” on Judgement Day

Mat_10:18 CAB  And you will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the nations.

Mat_10:18  καὶ ἐπὶ ἡγεμόνας δὲ καὶ βασιλεῖς ἀχθήσεσθε ἕνεκεν ἐμοῦ εἰς μαρτύριον αὐτοῖς καὶ τοῖς ἔθνεσιν.

Mat_10:19 But whenever they hand you over, do not worry how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak;

Mat_10:19  ὅταν δὲ παραδιδῶσιν ὑμᾶς, μὴ μεριμνήσητε πῶς ἢ τί λαλήσητε· δοθήσεται γὰρ ὑμῖν ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ τί λαλήσετε.

Mat_10:19  οταν δε Aπαραδωσιν TSBπαραδιδωσιν υμας μη μεριμνησητε πως η τι λαλησητε δοθησεται γαρ υμιν εν εκεινη τη ωρα τι Aλαλησητε TSBλαλησετε

 

We see that God’s goals often don’t evidently materialize until judgement day.

 

The Point: Better do redo all your work as a prophet than to have success at all the evil you do as a sinner!

 

Conclusion: Bullet Proof Work Can’t Be Wasted!

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-5-f--11.11.18.mp3

 

 

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All Works Burned Up in the Earth

2Pe_3:7 CAB  but the present heavens and earth, having been stored up by His word, are being reserved for fire until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

2Pe_3:7  οἱ δὲ νῦν οὐρανοὶ καὶ ἡ γῆ τῷ αὐτοῦ λόγῳ τεθησαυρισμένοι εἰσὶ πυρί τηρούμενοι εἰς ἡμέραν κρίσεως καὶ ἀπωλείας τῶν ἀσεβῶν ἀνθρώπων.

2Pe_3:7  οι δε νυν ουρανοι και η γη SBAτωT-DSM SAαυτωP-DSM TBαυτουP-GSM λογω τεθησαυρισμενοι εισιν πυρι τηρουμενοι εις ημεραν κρισεως και απωλειας των ασεβων ανθρωπων

2Pe_3:10 CAB  But the day of the Lord shall come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with a rushing noise, and the elements, burning with heat, shall be dissolved, both the earth and the works that are in it shall be burned up [TSBκατακαησεται Aευρεθησεται – NIV: everything in it will be laid bare].

2Pe_3:10  ῞Ηξει δὲ ἡμέρα Κυρίου ὡς κλέπτης ἐν νυκτί, ἐν ᾗ οὐρανοὶ ῥοιζηδὸν παρελεύσονται, στοιχεῖα δὲ καυσούμενα λυθήσονται, καὶ γῆ καὶ τὰ ἐν αὐτῇ ἔργα κατακαήσεται.

2Pe_3:10  ηξει δε TSBη ημερα κυριου ως κλεπτης εν TSBνυκτι TSBεν η οι ουρανοι ροιζηδον παρελευσονται στοιχεια δε καυσουμενα Aλυθησεται TSBλυθησονται και γη και τα εν αυτη εργα Aευρεθησεται TSBκατακαησεται

2Pe_3:11 Therefore, seeing that all these things shall be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,

2Pe_3:11  Τούτων οὖν πάντων λυομένων ποταποὺς δεῖ ὑπάρχειν ὑμᾶς ἐν ἁγίαις ἀναστροφαῖς καὶ εὐσεβείαις,

2Pe_3:11  τουτων Aουτως TSBουν παντων λυομενων ποταπους δει υπαρχειν Aυμας TSBυμας εν αγιαις αναστροφαις και ευσεβειαις

2Pe_3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens, being set of fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements, burning with heat, shall melt?

2Pe_3:12  προσδοκῶντας καὶ σπεύδοντας τὴν παρουσίαν τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμέρας, δι᾿ ἣν οὐρανοὶ πυρούμενοι λυθήσονται καὶ στοιχεῖα καυσούμενα τήκεται;

2Pe_3:13 But according to His promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

2Pe_3:13  καινοὺς δὲ οὐρανοὺς καὶ γῆν καινὴν κατὰ τὸ ἐπάγγελμα αὐτοῦ προσδοκῶμεν, ἐν οἷς δικαιοσύνη κατοικεῖ.

2Pe_3:14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot or blemish;

2Pe_3:14  Διό, ἀγαπητοί, ταῦτα προσδοκῶντες, σπουδάσατε ἄσπιλοι καὶ ἀμώμητοι αὐτῷ εὑρεθῆναι ἐν εἰρήνῃ,

 

The Works of the Righteous Follow Them

Rev_14:13 CAB  And I heard a voice out of heaven saying, "Write: 'Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on,' "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow with them."

Rev_14:13  Καὶ ἤκουσα φωνῆς ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ λεγούσης· γράψον, μακάριοι οἱ νεκροὶ οἱ ἐν Κυρίῳ ἀποθνήσκοντες ἀπ᾿ ἄρτι. ναί, λέγει τὸ Πνεῦμα, ἵνα ἀναπαήσονται ἐκ τῶν κόπων αὐτῶν· τὰ δὲ ἔργα αὐτῶν ἀκολουθεῖ μετ᾿ αὐτῶν.

Rev_14:13  και ηκουσα φωνης εκ του ουρανου λεγουσης Bμοι TSμοι γραψον μακαριοι οι νεκροι οι εν κυριω αποθνησκοντες BAαπ TSαπαρτι BAαρτι TSAναι λεγει Bναι το πνευμα ινα Aαναπαησονται TSBαναπαυσωνται εκ των κοπων αυτων τα Aγαρ TSBδε εργα αυτων ακολουθει μετ αυτων

 

TSK: and their: Psa_19:11, Psa_85:13, Mat_25:35-40, Luk_16:9, 1Co_15:58, Gal_6:7, Gal_6:8, Phi_2:17, 2Ti_4:7, 2Ti_4:8, Heb_6:10, Heb_6:11

 

1Co_3:11-17 – The Work of Saving or loosing men’s lives

 

This most important work of saving people’s lives can also partly show us some generalized reapplications for our work ethic (if handled Orthodoxly).

 

Heb_6:9 CAB  But we are persuaded concerning you, beloved, of better things and those pertaining to salvation, even though we speak in this manner.

Heb_6:9  Πεπείσμεθα δὲ περὶ ὑμῶν, ἀγαπητοί, τὰ κρείττονα |BAκρεισσονα TSκρειττονα| καὶ ἐχόμενα σωτηρίας, εἰ καὶ οὕτω λαλοῦμεν.

Heb_6:10  For God is not unjust to forget ·[that of] your work [τοῦ ἔργου ὑμῶν] and ·[TSBthe TSBchopping] TSBlabor [TSBτοῦ TSBκόπου] of [the] love [τῆς ἀγάπης] which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Heb_6:10  οὐ γὰρ ἄδικος ὁ Θεὸς ἐπιλαθέσθαι τοῦ ἔργου ὑμῶν καὶ TSBτοῦ TSBκόπου τῆς ἀγάπης ἧς ἐνεδείξασθε |Sενδειξασθε TBAενεδειξασθε| εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ, διακονήσαντες τοῖς ἁγίοις καὶ διακονοῦντες.

Heb_6:11 But we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end,

Heb_6:11  ἐπιθυμοῦμεν δὲ ἕκαστον ὑμῶν τὴν αὐτὴν ἐνδείκνυσθαι σπουδὴν πρὸς τὴν πληροφορίαν τῆς ἐλπίδος ἄχρι τέλους,

Heb_6:12 lest you become dull, but become imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Heb_6:12  ἵνα μὴ νωθροὶ γένησθε, μιμηταὶ δὲ τῶν διὰ πίστεως καὶ μακροθυμίας κληρονομούντων τὰς ἐπαγγελίας.

 

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·        Righteous works really are invincible.
(remember: Eph_6:8; Col_3:24?)

·        It is impossible to have righteous works wasted or predestination reversed, so we have absolutely no reason to fear.

 

TSK on Romans_9:19

Thou: Rom_3:8, 1Co_15:12, 1Co_15:35, Jam_1:13

Why doth: Rom_3:5-7, Gen_50:20, 2Ch_20:6, Job_9:12-15, Job_9:19, Job_23:13, Job_23:14, Psa_76:10, Isa_10:6, Isa_10:7, Isa_46:10, Isa_46:11, Dan_4:35, Mar_14:21, Act_2:23, Act_4:27, Act_4:28

 

Sir_39:18 -- Hebrew-Based

18  He has but to command and his will is done;

nothing can limit his achievement.

 

 

More Examples of What Not to Fear

Embrace Providence to Defeat Fear -- Continued

 

Don't Fear Rough Provision

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-6--Don't-Fear-Rough-Provision-or-Hunger--11.18.18.mp3

Healing-QNA--After--Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-6--11.18.18.mp3

Other date(s); 11/18/18; 12/2/18 (updated link after revising source text)

See: Surviving Cabin Fever

 

>> Reminder: DEFERRING to UPDATES…….

 

--------------- Update From: (The Intro to) Surviving Cabin Fever \/

The heroes of faith endured much discomfort like “good soldiers” and became Cabin Survivors:

 

Noah, Jonah, Samson Thirsting, Levites waiting inside the tabernacle (Leviticus 8), Apostles in rags and suffering cold like Jacob, Lot and David and Hebrews 11 Heroes living in Caves, patriarchs living in tents, and the prophets of old and the prophets to come are seen wearing rough clothes, rags, and sackcloth…

 

The list goes on for those who did not regard the comfort of their lives as valuable to themselves, and happily endured the roughest conditions for the privilege of serving the Truth.

 

Apostles: 1Co_4:11-12, 2Co_6:10, 2Co_8:9, 2Co_11:27; Php_4:11-13*
[* comp. Php_4:11: ὑστέρησιν & Php_4:12: ὑστερεῖσθαι with Psa 23:1: οὐδέν με ὑστερήσειV-FAI-3S]

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Don’t Fear Hunger

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>> Reminder: DEFERRING to UPDATES…….

 

It seems that we're very early in our journey of defeating fear, trusting in provision, etc.

 

Mat_6:34 – SOM: Don’t worry (don’t divide up cares) about tomorrow = be willing to go hungry

Deu_8:3, Mat_4:4, Luk_4:4 – Man will not live on bread alone…

 

“Jones states that by replying with nothing but quotes from scripture Jesus illustrates his "perfect detachment from everything except God's will."[3]

Jones, Alexander. The Gospel According to St. Matthew. London: Geoffrey Chapman, 1965.

 

God WANTED them to hunger and not be flesh balls complaining!

 

If God multiplies bread, then great!

If He makes you wait, this is also great!

 

Php_4:11-13 (comp. Phi_3:8) – Paul: Learned the secret of being content

>> Sync: Fer | SCF < --------------- PENDING

 

Wilderness Reminders

1.        Exo_14:10-12: At the Red Sea where it seemed Pharaoh’s army would destroy them.

http://magazine.biola.edu/article/14-spring/a-curious-number-in-numbers/

7/27/18

 

Num_14:11 WEB  Yahweh said to Moses, How long will this people despise me? and how long will they not believe in me, for all the signs which I have worked among them?

Num_14:11 Moses Intercedes for the People And the Lord said to Moses, “How long will these people provoke Me? And how long do they refuse to believe Me for all the signs which I have done among them?

Num_14:11  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν Ἕως τίνος παροξύνει με ὁ λαὸς οὗτος καὶ ἕως τίνος οὐ πιστεύουσίν μοι ἐν πᾶσιν τοῖς σημείοις, οἷς ἐποίησα ἐν αὐτοῖς;

 

Num_14:22 WEB  because all those men who have seen my glory, and my signs, which I worked in Egypt and in the wilderness, yet have tempted me these ten times, and have not listened to my voice;

Num_14:22 For all the men who see My glory, and the signs which I have done in Egypt, and in the wilderness, and have tempted Me this tenth time, and have not hearkened to My voice,

Num_14:22  ὅτι πάντες οἱ ἄνδρες οἱ ὁρῶντες τὴν δόξαν μου καὶ τὰ σημεῖα, ἃ ἐποίησα ἐν Αἰγύπτῳ καὶ ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ ταύτῃ, καὶ ἐπείρασάν με τοῦτο δέκατον καὶ οὐκ εἰσήκουσάν μου τῆς φωνῆς,

Num_14:23 WEB  surely they shall not see the land which I swore to their fathers, neither shall any of those who despised me see it:

Num_14:23 surely they shall not see the land which I swore to their fathers; but their children which are with Me here, as many as do not know good or evil, every inexperienced youth, to them shall I give the land; but none who have provoked Me shall see it.

Num_14:23  ἦ μὴν οὐκ ὄψονται τὴν γῆν, ἣν ὤμοσα τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν, ἀλλ᾿ ἢ τὰ τέκνα αὐτῶν, ἅ ἐστιν μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ ὧδε, ὅσοι οὐκ οἴδασιν ἀγαθὸν οὐδὲ κακόν, πᾶς νεώτερος ἄπειρος, τούτοις δώσω τὴν γῆν, πάντες δὲ οἱ παροξύναντές με οὐκ ὄψονται αὐτήν.

 

Review & Summary: Don't Fear Rough Provision or Hunger

Other dates (11/18/18; 11/20/18; 11/25/18; as seen in Don’t Fear Poverty); 12/2/18

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-7--Don't-Fear-Poverty--12.2.18.mp3

 

·        Interestingly, it was only after Jesus majorly ‘stood behind’ in the wilderness Deu_8:3, Mat_4:4, Luk_4:4 that He later became…

·        the ‘Lord who is the shepherd Psa_23:1, etc. of our souls’ 1Pe_2:25, and,

·        made the people sit down in green grass (1-C) by the (still) waters Psa_23:2 (1-D), and,

·        multiplied bread and fish (1) so that they ‘came behind in nothing’ Psa_23:1; (Php_4:12)

·        and through this He charged them to seek the real and ultimate bread that goes into forever Joh_6:27-29; (2)

·        (Not to mention that He also made fish jump into the net Luk_5:6; Joh_21:1-17; (3) and made coins appear in fish mouths Mat_17:24-27, etc.)

 

[(1) Multiplying Bread And Fish: (A) Feeding of the 5,000: Mat_14:13-21; Mar_6:31-44; Luk_9:12-17; Joh_6:1-14 (B) Feeding of the 4,000: Mat_15:32-39 and Mar_8:1-9; (C) the people sat down in green grass: Mat_15:35, Mar_6:39, Joh_6:10; (D) it was by the waters: Mat 14:13-14; Mar 6:31-34; (Luk 9:10-11); Joh 6:1-3; Mat 15:29 (Mar 8:1)]

[(2) Joh_6:27-29Don't Labor For The Bread Which Perishes, as already seen in Don’t Work Unfaithful Works!]

[(3) Fish Jumping Into Net: Luk_5:6; Joh_21:1-17, as already seen in Success Ultimately Comes From God, Not You]

 

And we also should be like Paul who came behind [ὑστέρησιν (v. 11)…ὑστερεῖσθαι (v. 12)] in prison Php_4:11-13; (1) and was later rewarded into overflowing provisionPhp_4:12 through the generosity of the Philippians.

 

[(1) Apostles Coming Behind: 1Co_4:11-12, 2Co_6:10, 2Co_8:9, 2Co_11:27 -- as already seen in Don't Fear Rough Provision / Surviving Cabin Fever]

 

Being A Hurting Sacrifice Makes You a Comforting Shepherd

The Reward of Being a Hurting Sacrifice Makes You Fit to Be a Comforting Shepherd

2Co_1:3 CAB  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies [οἰκτιρμῶνN-GPM – House-hold-compassions] and God ·of all [πάσης] comfort [παρακλήσεως],

2Co_1:3  Εὐλογητὸς ὁ Θεὸς καὶ πατὴρ τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ πατὴρ τῶν οἰκτιρμῶν καὶ Θεὸς πάσης παρακλήσεως,

2Co_1:4  who comforts [παρακαλῶν] us in [ἐπὶ] all our tribulation [θλίψει], ·so that [εἰς τὸ] we may be [powerfully] able [δύνασθαιV-PNN *] to comfort those who are in any [πάσῃ] affliction [θλίψει], ·by means of [διὰ] the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by [ὑπὸ] God.

[* Present, middle or passive depoNent, Mood: iNfinitive (Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes)]

2Co_1:4  ὁ παρακαλῶν ἡμᾶς ἐπὶ πάσῃ τῇ θλίψει ἡμῶν, εἰς τὸ δύνασθαι ἡμᾶς παρακαλεῖν τοὺς ἐν πάσῃ θλίψει διὰ τῆς παρακλήσεως ἧς παρακαλούμεθα αὐτοὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ·

2Co_1:5 Because [ὅτι] just as [καθὼς] the sufferings [παθήματα] of [the] Christ [τοῦ Χριστοῦ] abound in[to] [εἰς] us, so [οὕτω] our consolation also abounds through [διὰ] [BAthe (BAτου)] Christ.

2Co_1:5  ὅτι καθὼς περισσεύει τὰ παθήματα τοῦ Χριστοῦ εἰς ἡμᾶς, οὕτω διὰ |BAτου| Χριστοῦ περισσεύει καὶ ἡ παράκλησις ἡμῶν.

2Co_1:6 Now if [εἴτε δὲ] we are afflicted, ·it is for [ὑπὲρ] [that of (τῆς)] your consolation and salvation [σωτηρίας], [NIV: if we are comforted, it is for your comfort -- Aειτε Aπαρακαλουμεθα Aυπερ της Aυμων Aπαρακλησεως Aτης (see: 2Co_1:7 TSB)] | which is effective for enduring [ἐνεργουμένης ἐν ὑπομονῇ] the same [τῶν αὐτῶν] sufferings which we also suffer [παθημάτων ὧν καὶ ἡμεῖς πάσχομεν].

2Co_1:6  εἴτε δὲ θλιβόμεθα, ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑμῶν παρακλήσεως καὶ σωτηρίας |Aειτε Aπαρακαλουμεθα Aυπερ της Aυμων Aπαρακλησεως Aτης| τῆς ἐνεργουμένης ἐν ὑπομονῇ τῶν αὐτῶν παθημάτων ὧν καὶ ἡμεῖς πάσχομεν· <|> εἴτε παρακαλούμεθα, ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑμῶν παρακλήσεως καὶ σωτηρίας·

2Co_1:6  ειτε δε θλιβομεθα υπερ της υμων παρακλησεως και σωτηριας Aειτε Aπαρακαλουμεθα Aυπερ της Aυμων Aπαρακλησεως Aτης ενεργουμενης εν υπομονη των αυτων παθηματων ων και ημεις πασχομεν | (2Co_1:7)…

2Co_1:7 CAB  (And our hope concerning you is steadfast); if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation, | knowing that as you are partakers of the sufferings, thus also you will partake of the consolation.

2Co_1:7 NIV  And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.

2Co_1:7  καὶ ἡ ἐλπὶς ἡμῶν βεβαία ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν· εἰδότες ὅτι ὥσπερ |Aως TSBωσπερ| κοινωνοί ἐστε τῶν παθημάτων, οὕτω καὶ τῆς παρακλήσεως.

Bκαι Bη Bελπις Bημων Bβεβαια Bυπερ Bυμων TSBειτε TSBπαρακαλουμεθα TSBυπερ TSBτης TSBυμων TSBπαρακλησεως και TSBσωτηριας TSκαι TSAη TSAελπις TSAημων TSAβεβαια TSAυπερ TSAυμων

 

>> READ: Php_4: > 3!!!!! (followup)

Php_4:11-13 (comp. Phi_3:8)

 

>> Scrip:

Romans 8: don't fear famine or nakedness or sword...

so I can boldly say that the Lord is a cry helper to me

 

Don’t Fear Poverty

Other dates; 9/23/18; other date(s); 10/7/18; 11/18/18; 11/20/18; 11/25/18; 12/2/18; 12/8/18

Embrace-Providence-to-Defeat-Fear--PART-8--Don't-Fear-Poverty--12.9.18.mp3

 

>> Heb_12 competitive agonizing simulation / race / game (followup)

 

 

>> Sync / see: TOC | RiFi

 

The Danger and the Opportunity of Poverty

·        I have noticed that a lot of people get “traumatized” by the pain of lacking everything they need.
Stop Selling Start Closing
Grant Cardone
https://youtu.be/--Eu64Sfadc

·        Some react the rest of their lives in raging lust and sinful indulgence, but,

·        a small blessed remnant minority finds the answer to life and receives the brokenness afforded by the pain and courageously becomes heroes of righteousness and courageous truth upon the earth….

 

Game Plan for Not Fearing Poverty

·        Let’s hate money A, and

·        make sacrifices B, and

·        not fear the poverty heaven may subject us to C,

·        nor even the poverty sinners may persecute us with D, and

·        let’s defy the fear of poverty by faith and just wait and see if heaven blasts us with love and salvation E.

·        After all, what else do we have to live for? E

·        Better to die in hope than to live in lust and luxury and indulgence! E

 

(A) General Reminder: Hating Money Displaces its Fear

·        Hate Money B

·        Soul = more than food C, etc.

·        Heb_13:5-6 ‘let your lives be free from the liking of money’ (as referenced in Don’t Fear Man)

·        (also: Father of prodigal son, etc.)

                                     

(A) Turn the Other Cheak: Mat_5:38-48 (esp. 38-42); Luk_6:27-38; (B) Hate Money: Mat_6:19-24; Luk_12:13-21, etc. (C) Don't Be Anxious: Mat_6:25-34; Luk_12:22-43, etc.

 

(B) Don’t Fear Poverty -- Because of Sacrifice

Jos_6:19 -- anathema sacrifice

 

Luk_12:22-34 (esp. Luk_12:32) – Sell your possessions

 

Mar_12:41-44, etc. – Widow giving her last bit of money

 

2Co_8:3 – they gave beyond their ability

 

(C) Don’t Fear Poverty -- Because of General Providence

Sirach 2 (Hebrew-based)

4    Accept [δέξαι – receive/welcome; (Br: take cheerfully – very periphrastic); (note: not tolerate)] whatever [πᾶν, ὃ ἐὰν] befalls [ἐπαχθῇ] you,

·in crushing misfortune10 [[ Sir_2:4] Syr “in disease and poverty”] be patient [ἐν ἀλλάγμασιν ταπεινώσεώς σου μακροθύμησον – Br: be patient when thou art changed to a low estate; NETS: in the vicissitudes {changes} of your humiliation be patient];

5    for in [ἐν (NETS: with)] fire gold is tested,

and worthy [NETS: acceptable] men in the crucible [NETS: furnace] of humiliation. [In sickness and poverty put your trust in him.]11 [[ Sir_2:5] LXX(O) adds]

6    Trust God [NETS: Have faith in him] and he will help [NETS: support] you;


make straight your ways and hope in him.1 [[ Sir_2:6] LXX(O), Syr “hope in him, and he will make straight your ways”]

 

(D) Don’t Fear Poverty -- Because of Sinners

Mat_5:38-42; Luk_6:27-31 – SOM: TOC / Give to stealers = Be willing to live in a garbage heap!

 

Has oppressive poverty ever happened to us?

How can we resolve this?

Note: Keep looking throughout lots of Scriptures because there are lots of answers…

 

Luk_12:13 CAB  Then someone from the crowd said to Him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide [μερίσασθαι] the inheritance [κληρονομίαν] with me."

Luk_12:13  Εἶπε δέ τις TSBαὐτῷ ἐκ τοῦ ὄχλου· |Aαυτω| διδάσκαλε, εἰπὲ τῷ ἀδελφῷ μου μερίσασθαι μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ τὴν κληρονομίαν.

Luk_12:14 But He said to him, "Man, who appointed [κατέστησε] Me ·a judge [TSBδικαστην Aκριτην – TSBjustice-er/Ajudge] or ·an arbitrator [μεριστὴν] over [εφ] you?"

Luk_12:14  ὁ δὲ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· ἄνθρωπε, τίς με κατέστησε δικαστήν |TSBδικαστην Aκριτην| ἢ μεριστὴν ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς;

Luk_12:15  And He said to them, ·"Take heed and beware [ὁρᾶτεV-PAM-2P (Strong’s on G3708: “Properly to stare at”) καὶ φυλάσσεσθεV-PMM-2P] of [ἀπὸ] [|TSBτης| Aπάσης] covetousness [πλεονεξίας], for [ὅτι] ·one's life [τινὶ ἡ ζωὴ TSAαὐτοῦP-GSM |BαυτωP-DSM| (D = Dative / indirect object)] does not ·consist [ἐστιν ἐκ] ·in the abundance [ἐν τῷ περισσεύειν] of his [TSBαὐτοῦ P-GSM |AαυτωP-DSM|] possessions [τῶν ὑπαρχόντων]."

Luk_12:15  εἶπε δὲ πρὸς αὐτούς, ὁρᾶτε καὶ φυλάσσεσθε ἀπὸ |TSBτης| Aπάσης πλεονεξίας· ὅτι οὐκ ἐν τῷ περισσεύειν τινὶ ἡ ζωὴ TSAαὐτοῦP-GSM |BαυτωP-DSM| ἐστιν ἐκ τῶν ὑπαρχόντων TSBαὐτοῦ P-GSM |AαυτωP-DSM|.

>> Sync: SPI > Fer | RiFi | ROW > Exclusivity < --- PENDING

 

Small Textual variations: Bto his life…TSBof his possessions OR TSAof his life… Ato his possessions…

Variation summary: B: toof; A: ofto; TS: ofof

T = Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus

S = Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus

 

The Old Testament is full of examples where Moses determined people’s rightful allotments of inheritance and other prophets stood up for social justice to get things right… Now in their day and (superior) culture, Jesus’ response was a strange and unexpected answer, especially since that’s what teachers and Rabbis did in their society -- make decisions for social justice. (At that time society actually respected those with knowledge sufficient to teach.) -- Make no mistake: this is definitely a new teaching about the New Covenant Kingdom of heaven and its new emphasis and priorities. If the man from the crowd had realized this from Jesus’ previous teaching he might not have gotten such an unexpected answer.

                                                                                                                                                    

Several Reasons Jesus Answered this way…

·        The man from the crowd was seeking to use Jesus’ public position in society as a teacher to serve a purpose other than what Jesus was there for.

·        Instead of giving the man social justice Jesus questioned the man’s values and priorities.

·        There are no needs to gain abundance in an age which entirely focuses on a heavenly kingdom to come, even if that means suffering social injustice in the meantime

·        Even if social injustice happened, it was now more important to proclaim and promote personal justice from the heart…

·        Therefore, in order to promote the best salvation you have to be very ready to suffer injustice and even poverty because of the wicked…

·        (Although Jesus does not directly rebuke the alleged unjust brother who was not dividing the inheritance, if he happened to be in the crowd or might have heard Jesus’ reply, he could realize how evil he was without social pressure or threat of immediate Justice, and therefore if the suspect repented it would be more inclined to be willingly from the heart by faith in a judgement to come that will condemn those who treasure money.)

 

(E) So where are the answers and hope and resolve?

 

Psalm 55 – Burdened Righteous Sustained in the Face of the Condemned Wicked

Psa_55:22 WEB  Cast your burden on Yahweh, and he will sustain you. He will never allow the righteous to be moved.

Psa_55:22 LB  Cast your cares [τὴν μέριμνάν σου] upon the Lord, and He shall sustain you; He shall never permit the righteous to be moved.

Psa_55:22  (54:23) ἐπίρριψον ἐπὶ κύριον τὴν μέριμνάν σου, καὶ αὐτός σε δια θρέψει· οὐ δώσει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα σάλον τῷ δικαίῳ.

Psa_55:23 WEB  But you, God, will bring them down into the pit of destruction. Bloodthirsty and deceitful men shall not live out half their days, but I will trust in you.

Psa_55:23 But You, O God, shall bring them down to the pit of destruction; bloody and crafty men shall not live out half their days; but I will hope in You, O Lord.

Psa_55:23  (54:24) σὺ δέ, ὁ θεός, κατάξεις αὐτοὺς εἰς φρέαρ διαφθορᾶς· ἄνδρες αἱμάτων καὶ δολιότητος οὐ μὴ ἡμισεύσωσιν τὰς ἡμέρας αὐτῶν. ἐγὼ δὲ ἐλπιῶ ἐπὶ σέ, κύριε.

 

1Pe 4:19 CAB  Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God entrust their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

1Pe 4:19  ὥστε καὶ οἱ πάσχοντες κατὰ τὸ θέλημα τοῦ Θεοῦ, |TSBως| πιστῷ κτίστῃ παρατιθέσθωσαν τὰς ψυχὰς αὐτῶν |BAαυτων TSεαυτων| ἐν ἀγαθοποιΐᾳ.

 

Don’t Fear Slavery

1Co_7:21  If you are a slave, DON’T CARE FOR IT

1Pe_2:21 – Submitting to slavery is following the example of willful hurting

 

Note: Not caring for Slavery defeats the vanity and false values that empower fear when real life hits.

 

Righteous Slavery

·          Gen_16:9 – God Told Hagar to return to Sarah, and,

·          Phm_1:12 – Paul sent Onesimus back to Philemon

 

If you can change your situation, use it rather.

If you can do good to your health, “use it rather”.

If you can Avoid evil by wisdom/virtue/etc., “use it rather”.

Remember NOT to suffer as an evil doer that does not do what is best!

Don’t suffer from negligence/complacency/irresponsibility, because this is in the same realm as “suffering as an evil doer” -- this includes “not rather using good” that is lawfully/morally/spiritually available to you.

 

Don't Fear Ignorance

8/26/18; other date(s); 10/7/18

 

>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

eating from the tree of knowledge prematurely is a sin

 

most of life is evidence based, not science / experiential knowledge based

 

Often, evidence-based decisions are where Faith Can Happen, and often people can insist on and reach for science / experiential knowledge because they don't trust / believe others whom they really ought to believe for the sake of Justice.

 

the experiential knowledge of science can be very honorable and good when the creator has assigned it to us and put it within our lawful reach for our careful use, but it is treacherous and unfaithful and unjust and unrighteous to be a discontent, unhappy, flustered, and frustrated flesh ball without it.

 

God has held back most knowledge from humans foremost of history and only now have humans achieved such large amounts of experience in knowledge and we should be very careful and reverent and fearful toward God lest we hastily abuse and sin with the tree of knowledge beyond what has righteously been given to us...

 

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Abraham Deceived off the path to “wander” in the wilderness.

 

Ignorance is one of the important ways we are held (hopefully cooperatively and willingly) in subjection to the Father of Spirits.

 

Aren’t there many more proofs and examples???

 

Deu_29:29 WEB  The secret things belong to Yahweh our God; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

Deu_29:29 LB  The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, to do all the words of this law.

Deu_29:29  (29:28) τὰ κρυπτὰ κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ ἡμῶν, τὰ δὲ φανερὰ ἡμῖν καὶ τοῖς τέκνοις ἡμῶν εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα ποιεῖν πάντα τὰ ῥήματα τοῦ νόμου τούτου.

>> Sync: LO | SPI | PFO > Responsibility

 

Context: cheating by serving other gods and consequently receiving harsh wrath and judgement as a result.

 

Pro_3:5

 

Joh_14:26-27 – Advocate / Monotheistic Spirit… will teach you all things

 

Php_4:13 – I can do all things

 

Don't Fear Sin

8/26/18; 9/16/18

 

Psa_23:4 – I will not be made to fear the nasty evils

 

1Jo_2:1 – IF we sin we have a defense attorney / advocate / Caller-next-to

(Remember: Joh_14:26-27 – Advocate / Monotheistic Spirit… will teach you all things)

 

Isa_43:1 – “Don’t fear, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name; you are Mine.”

 

Psa_94:18-19

 

Don’t Fear Being Forsaken

 

Deu_3:22

Deu_31:6

Deu_31:8  – “He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.”

 

Jos_1:5-9

>> Sync: Elsewhere herein

 

Zep_3:16-17

 

Rom_8:31 – If God is for us, who can be against us?

 

Gen_28:16 – “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I did not know it”

 

Mar_6:50 – “Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid.”

 

Mat_28:20 – Letterally Present Commission

 

Don’t Fear Not Being Helped

 

Isa_41:8-10

 

Psa_46:1

 

Remember: Heb_13:5-6 ‘Not in no way…forsake…Lord is a cry helper to me’ (as referenced in Don’t Fear Man)

 

Remember:  Psa_118:5-7 ‘with me… a helper’ (as referenced in Don’t Fear Man)

 

 

Isa_41:10

Isa_41:13-14

 

Don't Fear Having a Terrible Life

Other date(s); 10/14/18

 

Job

 

Jacob!

 

Jephthah's Tragic Request……

>> Don’t Fear Bad Decisions?

>> don’t fear having made a terrible mistake -- Ultimately

>> notice she was willing to hurt

Jdg 11 – 12:1

 

 

Don't Fear “Bad News”

 

Psa_112:7  – He will not fear bad news; his heart is steadfast

 

No Fear, Only Faith / Do not fear, only believe: Mar_5:36/Luk_8:50

>> Sync multiple occurrences herein

 

Isa_8:11-12 – do not fear what they fear

 

Pro_12:25

>> Sync: herein

 

 

Don't Fear Tomorrow

Mat_6:34

1Pe_5:7 / JAS?

>> TSK

 

Php_4:6-7

Pro_12:25

>> Sync: herein

 

 

Don't Fear Disappointment or Discouragement

Don't Fear Having Your Hopes/Dreams/Wishes Disappointed

8/26/18

 

Jos_1:5-9

Jos_1:9 – “Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.”

>> Sync: Elsewhere herein

 

 

1Ch_28:20 – “David also said to Solomon his son, “Be strong and courageous, and do the work. Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD God, my God, is with you. He will not fail you or forsake you until all the work for the service of the temple of the LORD is finished.

 

>>Scrip:

·        Joseph was thrown into prison after he dreamed of being a king

·        they pushed back Moses

·        Messiah was crucified, and they said, we had hoped he would deliver Israel

·        Corinthians were disappointed when Paul did not show up in time.

·        Aren’t there many more examples?

 

Jer_29:11-14

 

Don't Fear the Distraction of Children

11/3/18

 

don't fear any supposed spiritual disadvantage under the Providence of God assigning you while you're trying to pray.

 

if you feel like you would do better with a different Providence this is only deception and nothing else...

 

and if it's not in spiritual healthiness that you're concerned about then what other strange wasted vanity is wrapped around our heart?

 

now we're getting real relevant....

 

 

Don't Fear Having Unrighteous Children

8/26/18; other date(s); 10/7/18

 

See: Family Commands

 

>> Scrip:

one will be taken

> it must needs be this way, even among the families were the righteous dwell

 

Mat10:21

don't fear!

 

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if righteous people had unrighteous children why should we fear being righteous?

 

but instead, be like Isaiah, Hosea, and other prophets who said, 'here am I and the children the Lord has given me for signs to the nations'... (Isa_8:18)

 

Where all of Hosea’s children positive prophecies?

 

the way to defeat the fear of having unrighteous children is to pray that in every case the Word of God would increase on the Earth.

 

this is so our faith will be built on a bullet-proof Foundation.

 

sometimes it can seem like people always default to assuming that they should pray to escape the edge of the sword like Hebrews gloriously describes, but no one is praying to courageously obtain a mightier Resurrection by being torturously martyred... like Hebrews also describes.

 

the big question is always: what are you called too and what is the will of God?

 

 

having unrighteous children might be your ordained way to suffer into the greatness of Jacob, for example, just like martyrdom or any other suffering that might be the will of God.

 

wasn't it God's will that Isaac would have two sons, and that the scripture might be fulfilled, so that God would have someone to hate, and someone to play an important role in producing Antichrist's Kingdom, and someone who could display the full wrath of God through their complete destruction?

 

so don't pray to not be great!

 

praying to only have righteous children can be compared to being rescued out of the mouth of the lion. It is extremely glorious, if it is the will of God.

 

the blessedness of Philip is only appropriately arranged for those who are called to this special miracle, and every other ambition will be shallow non greatness.

 

>>Scrip:

That being said, we ‘have hope of better things’ concerning our children, not because we are idealistic, but because we have been called in such a way as this…

 

Don't Fear Shame

Other dates; 9/5/18; 9/9/18

 

Gen_3:7 – After they sinned they were ashamed

Mat_27:28-30; Joh_19:23 – The guards stripped Jesus

Rev_11:9 – the pagans would not let their bodies be put into tombs (in the city which also their lord was crucified)

Heb_12:2 – Jesus “despised” the shame

 

See: BDC

 

>>Scrip:

SOM: you are blessed when you are treated as evil doers

> TSK, col?, etc.

 

the law uncovers the head of her who has been accused of evil doing (whether she is innocent or guilty)

 

if you are falsely accused of evil doing, you are blessed, but very importantly, you have to be willing to hurt along with the virtues of women like Susanna.

>> Sync: fear | Pur > unrecognized punishment

 

 

Isa_54:4 – “Do not be afraid; you will not be put to shame. Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated. You will forget the shame of your youth and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood.”

 

Don't Fear Foster Molestation

Moses in Pharaoh’s court.

 

Don’t Fear Persecution & Martyrdom

 

Remember: 1Pe_3:13-14, etc. (as referenced in Don’t Fear Man)

 

Remember: Psa_56:1-4, etc. (as referenced in Don’t Fear Man)

 

2 Maccabees_7  – 7 sons & Mother martyred

>> other Mac examples?

 

Rom_8:36 – we are killed all day long

 

Supposedly we should know these things as our earnest ambition with all our strength, and yet it is easy to wonder how we can ever be prepared for the ultimate sacrifice, but let it all start right here with dying to the practical current fears we are facing right NOW…

 

Don’t Fear Death

>> Samson was not afraid to die by faith

 

Mar_4:39-40 – Wind and the Waves

Mat_10:29-31 – “you are worth more than many sparrows”

 

Php_1:21-23, etc. – to live is Anointed One and to die is gain… departing is far better

 

H: Mar_8:31-35 -- Don’t Demonically Resist Suffering

“I read mark 8:31-35 last night and it reminded me of the Bible study that if its God's will for us to suffer its demonic to try to push it off/not receive it. Seems to be the basic call of the good announcemnt.”

(8/19/18 12:59 PM, edited by H)

 

Courageously Face Death, Even for Others

Gen_31:3 – God tells Jacob to Return to his father’s house

Gen_35:19 – Rachel died along the way to Ephratha

 

Jacob lost his wife in the dangers of travel in obeying God’s voice.

 

·        Did Jacob regret it?

·        Did he revise his account of what happened to include that he missed God’s voice somewhere?

·        Are we afraid of evil chance happening to us, or are we willing to trust God and courageously do what He says even if it kills us?

·        Are we resolved to not fear and Trust heaven’s providence and not regret or reinterpret any possible evils that may befall us as though we failed in anything by obeying God?

·        Remember: Paul was tempted to regret, but chose not to.

·        Paul maintained his integrity even when he could not make it to Corinth on schedule. (2Co_1:12-24, etc. -- as partly quoted in Letteral Obedience)

>>Scrip: /\/\

 

Heb_11:19 – Abraham knew that the Lord could raise up his son

·        Abraham did not fear for the sake of another human, his own son!, whom he was supposed to be protecting.

·        think about all of the hopes, all of the dreams, all of the labor, all of the waiting...

·        and whatever was begun in the spirit was not allowed to be made complete in the flesh (Gal_3:3)

 

Note: Whenever you find yourself compromising to defend your dreams, beware to return to what is spiritual, readjust your work ethic and perception of trust, and reestablish your courage of Hope where it belongs, and do what is true even if it kills your only begotten son...

 

Joh_11:38-44 – Lazarus raised from the dead

 

we do not even need to fear sickness or death

all we need to be occupied with is justice, and then we will be saved.

 

~Judges 20-21 – don't fear damage and the loss of life

 

 

Conclusion

 

>> see: General No Fear Passages

>> why did I put this?: In love, slave serve each other as anointed one

 

Psa_34:4  “I sought the LORD, and he answered me; he delivered me from all my fears.”

 

Psa_34:7

 

Psa_94:19

Isa_43:1 – When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought me joy.

 

Rom_8:38-39

 

Interfacing Divinity

Mat_14:27

Rev_1:17

Joh_14:1, Joh_14:27

Luk_1:30-31 – Favor Removes Fear from Marry

 

The Point

~Oct 2018; 10/31/18; 11/3/18

 

the point of a lot of this 'no fearing anything' exercise is so that we will finally see that everything in life is a win-win for those who live by faith.

 

we absolutely have to stop thinking that we may win or we may lose and we have to start thinking that all things work together for the good for those who are intentionally called...

 

if it is raining then I say, this is good I get to work on profitable writing and labor.

if the electricity is out then I say, this is great I get to exercise and pray and work on more manual things.

 

 

if I finally get to preach the good announcement I can say, I finally get to be faithful to do what I was made for!!!

If I'm too busy running errands in the meantime then I remember that those who are deacons have great reward, and I am thankful that the Creator is polishing and Preparing Me For Greater things.

 

if I Prosper I say, this is great I finally get to rejoice in God's good generosity.

if I suffer loss in anything then I can boldly say through Logos, this is great I get to finally get something hard so that I might be saved from Sodom!

 

when are we finally going to stop being children as though we should be completely destitute of wisdom in such things, and when will we start consistently acting as grown up spiritual ones who have faith?

when will we start living as those giving over a reasonable response of consistency 4 the real way the Creator has been faithful to us?

 

whether we are abased or whether we abound we've got to start setting every situation as to our advantage.

 

 

Some Ways to Defeat Anxiety

6/9/16

 

Don’t be set up for anxiety.

 

Using deep wisdom and insistent logos to wage war to zealously believe that it does not matter like you think it does.

Say to your soul: be wise! Logically speaking, it probably does not matter like you think it does.

 

Change your values and your faith.

Change the rules you use when feeling like you have to do something / you need something.

If you think you need things that God does not think you deserve or need, you are very vulnerable / set up for anxiety.

 

A person with orthodox needs is stable and has a basis to fight to regain their down-standing and sanity.

A person with artificial needs cannot stand against the rape of anxiety, because they have already agreed to their defeat (to whatever degree their agreement is true.)

 

Demons of fear and anxiety can already have an inroad (a stronghold) to compulse you into fear, long before you start the battle against their temptations.

 

Have you ever been tempted and it feels like you are already loosing before you have even begun resisting the temptation?

 

Change your doctrine/theology/beliefs/values/assumptions/needs now…

 

When you need what you should not need don’t be surprised when you are anxious about what you have no reason to worry about.

 

 

Battling the confusion of Anxiety

There are real needs, and there are fake ones.

Never let the multiplication of real needs ever convince you of unreal ones.

 

Luk_2:48

 

Fear is Everywhere, Because Fear is Paganism

 

The Common Charge

Although we are in different places and this can apply in so many ways, the charge that applies to everyone in one way or the other is to commit to choose to oppose and no longer cooperate with fear.

 

The Common Problem

It is amazing to me that everywhere you go, whenever you find people/ (lost tribes) scattered everywhere in remote and forgotten places of the earth they are consumed with fear and concerned about appeasing the demons that rake at them and drive them into violence, hatred, voodoo/ sorcery, and the wicked idolatry of venerating and worshiping images and objects.

 

Man’s compulsive and demonic fear disproves evolution, because all of mankind has certainly developed a horrifying perpetual problem that is not only not in anyone’s best interest, but we even need a Savior to save us from!

 

In the midst of Humans first major Mixture with (fallen) angelic beings, in the midst of the creation of demons, it says:

 

Gen_6:5 CAB  (6:6) And the Lord God, having seen that the wicked actions of men were multiplied upon the earth, and that everyone in his heart was intently brooding over evil continually,

 

Tribal Humanity Is Real Humanity

What we have in civilized societies is a temporary gloss, a concerted effort to be cultivated toward something more thoughtful, particular, self controlled and intentional; But as soon as crises strikes (unexpected epidemic, or an emergency), fear also strikes, and evil, compulsive humanity comes to the surface in an instant; People are really not as polite, loving, and self-sacrificing toward other people and general humanity as they would like to think they are; tell them a building is on fire and they will insanely trample others to get out; (Did you hear some of these types of stories from 911/ other survivors?)

    Just forget the courtesy you think that your neighbor has to you on a sunny day… It is worthless because it will immediately vanish in the pressured night when his safety is taken away and it comes down to your life or his.

 

Examples: Someone Drowning; crisis/ social panic/ corporate frenzy; emergency/ calamity situations

 

End Times

Ultimately, this is part of the chaos and insanity of the end times, and is part of the reason people are hating each other, and betraying even family members, because they are already enslaved to fears… etc.

 

– Ever wondered how could the cruelty described in the end times ever happen today in our “enlightened” and highly “sophisticated” society? (ex. We are so smart now, we even are talking about, “Eco justice”??) But despite all of this pretense, our compulsive fear is already built in, and it is already presently hiding in us. In the end, we are indeed no different than the Nazis, who followed their evil and impossibly dark social agendas, and we too are already prepared to mindlessly follow anti-christ as soon as he shows up.

(remember: XA persecution)

 

The Fear of Paganism: Being Hurt and Hurting One another

* You will forever continually hurt other people, and you will never find the honor and the life of faithfulness to people (especially the ones you should be loving the most) as long as you remain in the dark fear of paganism. [this applies to physical > and then even spiritual family (remember end times)]

* Do not be perpetually embondaged to this death!  Be set free by the life of faith in a hope that is far beyond our capacities as humans to come up with!

* Don't be dead any longer as the heathens around you are dead; Be without fear, and in love with the truth that does not fear persecution and death! (This is something that only Jesus can produce because none of the tribes on the earth have found freedom from these things)

* deal with these things before crises strikes (remember Jesus and the garden)

* Evil-lution offers no actual explanation or solution to this very real dilemma (all they can say is that their god randomly backfired!)!

* stop being as so many foreign women I have met (and am related to) who insist on being slaves of zealous worship to fear

 

Tit_3:3-4 CAB For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, being deceived, being enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.  4  But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared…

 

Heb_2:14-15 CAB  Therefore since the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same things, in order that through death He might destroy the one having the power of death, that is, the devil,  15  and that He might set free these, as many as by fear of death through all of their lives, were subject to bondage.

 

Remember these Passages

- what can man do to me?

- do not fear their threats or be dismayed (1Pe_)

- Do NOT fear them which destroy the body (Mat_10)

 

Because all humans compulse toward fear, darkness and bitter evil at all times, therefore fear is of our worst enemy because it is a proponent of our apostasy and paganism.

 

No Worry

Wis_9:14-18 Brenton  For the thoughts of mortal men are miserable, and our devices are but uncertain. 15  For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things.  16  And hardly do we guess aright at things that are upon earth, and with labour do we find the things that are before us: but the things that are in heaven who hath searched out?  17  And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send thy Holy Spirit from above?  18  For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through wisdom.

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Compare SOM – don’t worry about your soul, or the body

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‘sufficient’

 

 

Mat_6:34 CAB  Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own affairs. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

Mat_6:34 Greek  μὴ οὖν μεριμνήσητε εἰς τὴν αὔριον· ἡ γὰρ αὔριον μεριμνήσει τὰ ἑαυτῆς· ἀρκετὸν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ἡ κακία αὐτῆς.

 

How to not worry?

·        Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness

·        What is the most disciplined thing to do?

·        When I do undisciplined things, I set myself up to worry about tomorrow!

·        If I’m always doing what is most disciplined (seeking His righteousness/justice) then I never have to worry about tomorrow again!

 

 

Luk_3:14 

2Co_12:9

 

>> See: Lux!!!!!

1Ti_6:5-10 CAB  constant wranglings of men of corrupt minds and having been deprived of the truth, supposing that godliness is a means of profit. Withdraw from such people.  6  But godliness with contentment is great gain.  7  For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain that neither can we carry anything out!  8  But having food and clothing, with these things we shall be content [ἀρκεσθησόμεθα].  9  But those desiring to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and many senseless and harmful lusts which sink men in destruction and perdition.  10  For the love of money is a root of all evils, of which some by aspiring have strayed away from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1Ti_6:5-10 Greek  διαπαρατριβαὶ διεφθαρμένων ἀνθρώπων τὸν νοῦν καὶ ἀπεστερημένων τῆς ἀληθείας, νομιζόντων πορισμὸν εἶναι τὴν εὐσέβειαν. ἀφίστασο ἀπὸ τῶν τοιούτων.  6  ἔστι δὲ πορισμὸς μέγας ἡ εὐσέβεια μετὰ αὐταρκείας.  7  οὐδὲν γὰρ εἰσηνέγκαμεν εἰς τὸν κόσμον, δῆλον ὅτι οὐδὲ ἐξενεγκεῖν τι δυνάμεθα·  8  ἔχοντες δὲ διατροφὰς καὶ σκεπάσματα, τούτοις ἀρκεσθησόμεθα.  9  οἱ δὲ βουλόμενοι πλουτεῖν ἐμπίπτουσιν εἰς πειρασμὸν καὶ παγίδα καὶ ἐπιθυμίας πολλὰς ἀνοήτους καὶ βλαβεράς, αἵτινες βυθίζουσι τοὺς ἀνθρώπους εἰς ὄλεθρον καὶ ἀπώλειαν.  10  ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστιν ἡ φιλαργυρία, ἧς τινες ὀρεγόμενοι ἀπεπλανήθησαν ἀπὸ τῆς πίστεως καὶ ἑαυτοὺς περιέπειραν ὀδύναις πολλαῖς.

>> See: Lux!!!!!

 

Heb_13:5-6 CAB  *Let your way of life [* ὁ τρόπος] be *without loving money [* ᾿Αφιλάργυρος], being satisfied [ἀρκούμενοι] *with what you have [* τοῖς παροῦσιν]. For He Himself has said, "By no means shall I desert you, nor in any way shall I forsake you;"  6  so that being confident, we may say: "The LORD is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?"

Heb_13:5-6 Greek  ᾿Αφιλάργυρος ὁ τρόπος, ἀρκούμενοι τοῖς παροῦσιν· αὐτὸς γὰρ εἴρηκεν· οὐ μή σε ἀνῶ οὐδ᾿ οὐ μή σε ἐγκαταλίπω·  6  ὥστε θαρροῦντας ἡμᾶς λέγειν· Κύριος ἐμοὶ βοηθός, καὶ οὐ φοβηθήσομαι· τί ποιήσει μοι ἄνθρωπος;

 

 

 

 

 

 

Physical need

 

Do Not Entail Many Things

11/28/12

 

>> get AL refs!!

 

Wis_4:11-12 Brenton  Yea speedily was he taken away, lest that wickedness should alter his understanding, or deceit beguile his soul.  12  For the bewitching of naughtiness doth obscure things that are honest; and the wandering of concupiscence doth undermine the simple mind.

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See NETS p. 701!_

AL: I cannot help but remember your wisdom when reading Wis_4:11-12 (NETS p. 701)

 

Fear of Dreams

11/20/12

 

 - what little i got from prayer so far: oppose "fear of dreams" (this might also be particularly meaningful to H)

 

 

 

Defeat Fear Additions

 

 

Isa_44:8 KJV+  FearH6342 ye not,H408 neitherH408 be afraid:H7297 have notH3808 I toldH8085 thee from that time,H4480 H227 and have declaredH5046 it? yeH859 are even my witnesses.H5707 Is thereH3426 a GodH433 besideH4480 H1107 me? yea, there is noH369 God;H6697 I knowH3045 notH1077 any.

Isa_44:8 Do not hide yourselves, nor go astray; have you not heard from the beginning, and have I not told you? You are witnesses if there is a God beside Me.’”

Isa_44:8  μὴ παρακαλύπτεσθε· οὐκ ἀπ᾿ ἀρχῆς ἠνωτίσασθε καὶ ἀπήγγειλα ὑμῖν; μάρτυρες ὑμεῖς ἐστε, εἰ ἔστιν θεὸς πλὴν ἐμοῦ· καὶ οὐκ ἦσαν τότε.

Isa_44:9 KJV+  They that makeH3335 a graven imageH6459 are allH3605 of them vanity;H8414 and their delectable thingsH2530 shall notH1077 profit;H3276 and theyH1992 are their own witnesses;H5707 they seeH7200 not,H1077 norH1077 know;H3045 thatH4616 they may be ashamed.H954

Isa_44:9 Idolatry is Foolishness But they that framed false gods did not then hearken; and they that engraved images are all vain, performing their own desires, which shall not profit them, but they shall be ashamed

Isa_44:9  οἱ πλάσσοντες καὶ γλύφοντες πάντες μάταιοι οἱ ποιοῦντες τὰ καταθύμια αὐτῶν, ἃ οὐκ ὠφελήσει αὐτούς· ἀλλὰ αἰσχυνθήσονται

>> Pop: Defeat Fear / SpW

 

(other date); 6/4/13-6/5/13

Sir_2:1-2 Brenton  My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation.  2  Set thy heart aright, and constantly endure, and make not haste in time of trouble.

 

Sir_3:17 Brenton  My son, go on with thy business in meekness; so shalt thou be beloved of him that is approved.

 

Sir_3:27 Brenton  An obstinate heart shall be laden with sorrows; and the wicked man shall heap sin upon sin.

 

 

 

>>  This bbs has Scripture refs Marked with the Style

 

Additions

>> the weak among you will be like David

- wicked flees

- Wis_17:11-13

- Wis_17:21

 

 

 

Let me say some things, "by way of reminder" "though you once knew these things"

 

 

Perception

Discernment & Hearing God's Voice!

>> Change Name to perception?

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

>> add dates of original discernment docs

Hearing God's Voice: 8/27/09; 8/28/09; 1/9/10; 1/12/10; 4/9/11(made the framework for the “Discernment Bible Study”) 4/23/11 (did “Discernment basic compilation”) Revision: 4/24/11-4/25/11; 6/18/11; 8/24/11-9/4/11 (What About Hearing Saves People?); 9/29/11; 10/16/11; 5/20/12 (Another Jesus & Another Spirit vs. the Same Spirit); 10/19/12; 2/18/13; 8/15/14-8/16/14; 8/18/14 (1Co2); 8/23/14; 8/26/14-8/28/14 (Another Jesus & Another Spirit vs. the Same Spirit); 8/29/14; 9/9/14-9/10/14; 9/13/14; 9/16/14 (Into Preparations); 9/16/14-9/17/14; 10/7/14; 11/21/14; 12/20/14; other dates; 3/12/15-3/14/15; 5/15/15; 5/26/15; 6/1/15; 8/5/15; 11/6/15; 11/24/15; 2/6/17 (recompiled)

 

 

>> Perception Additions / TODO!

 

 

 

Note: we need A LOT of help bringing this Bible study to a much more finished and presentable state. If you want to help, let me know.

 

This Bible study is in a very primitive stage of “personal notes” at this point. It is nowhere near being ready to publish publically.

 

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DHG

Deu_31:16 -- The real voice is blunt, especially to God's favorites in prayer

a skunk by any other name

2/28/18

 

>>MVP

 

in Exodus they made the idle and called it by the Divine name

 

2co11 another Jesus

> Lux | etc.

 

Etc.

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Deu_34:1-7 -- Moses' Eyes

Saturday, February 24th 2018

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why did Isaac like Esau?

1/21/18

 

did Isaac simply not have discernment?

could some Among Us really have more perception than Isaac?

 

part of the answer to this dilemma is that you can like a certain cashier as you checked out at the store, only to have Heaven later testify strongly against them that He hates them.

 

you may be able to physically like some of your relatives, only to find out later after much consideration, that they don't care about the truth.

 

this can happen many times with children, probably much like it happened with Isaac and Esau, that your child submits to you, and honors you, and you think they like you, only to eventually perceive that their heart loves the devil even though they have been subjected to you.

 

this scenario is one of the very potent ways which God drew that out for Isaac.

 

part of the point in the stories is that God is working out his love for Jacob and making the very key defining points in these twins lives where Jacob ends up loving his father Isaac's fear.

 

God had already prophesied something to this effect, but especially after God Drew out his hatred against Esau and his love for Jacob, then Isaac willingly agreed.

 

we also should always be learning more and more perception as God continually teaches us that what he prophesied is actually indeed drawn-out to be perfectly and infinitely True.

 

what you can experience is that: these both seem like my boys, and they both seem like understandable human beings, and this certain one over here has some characteristics that are very pleasing to me, but then, all of the sudden, as their lives are working their ways out, the least expected one with the least desirable qualities suddenly makes a leap of faith and profound truth that honors the desirableness of your greatness way more than the physical cooperation of the first child. now the desirable qualities of the first child are eclipsed and dwarfed in light of the profound faith and love of Divine Justice that has now suddenly been worked out in the second child.

….

 

 

 

 

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Gullible

>where is this, and where does it belong?

 

Scrip:

the simple believe every word

 

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Deu_31:21, Deu_31:27-29 -- Real prophecy flows its Divinity perfectly through human vessel

Prophecy = God in a Moses Suit

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Detection / "physical"/external discernment

5/23/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

Potipher saw that the Lord was with Joseph

 

...

Num_12:7, etc. – Not so with My servant Moses....

 

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3/28/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

"Guileless people are often not prepared to recognize guile in others. So those who are responsible for the spiritual welfare of the flock need to warn the people about who should be avoided." (WPNT on Rom_16:13)

 

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BBS: dhg

BBS: monotheism

1/21/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

context: why have I failed before them?

 

Jer_15:19 WEB  Therefore thus says Yahweh, If you return, then will I bring you again, that you may stand before me; and if you take forth the precious from the vile, you shall be as my mouth: they shall return to you, but you shall not return to them.

Jer_15:19 CAB  Therefore thus says the Lord: If you will return, then will I restore you, and you shall stand before My face. And if you will bring forth the precious from the worthless, you shall be as My mouth; and they shall return to you; but you shall not return to them.

Jer_15:19  διὰ τοῦτο τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἐὰν ἐπιστρέψῃς, καὶ ἀποκαταστήσω σε, καὶ πρὸ προσώπου μου στήσῃ· καὶ ἐὰν ἐξαγάγῃς τίμιον ἀπὸ ἀναξίου, ὡς στόμα μου ἔσῃ· καὶ ἀναστρέψουσιν αὐτοὶ πρὸς σέ, καὶ σὺ οὐκ ἀναστρέψεις πρὸς αὐτούς.

Jer_15:20 I will make you to this people a fortified bronze wall; and they shall fight against you, but they shall not prevail against you; for I am with you to save you and to deliver you, says Yahweh.

Jer_15:20 And I will make you to this people as a strong bronze wall; and they shall fight against you, but they shall by no means prevail against you.

Jer_15:20  καὶ δώσω σε τῷ λαῷ τούτῳ ὡς τεῖχος ὀχυρὸν χαλκοῦν, καὶ πολεμήσουσιν πρὸς σὲ καὶ οὐ μὴ δύνωνται πρὸς σέ, διότι μετὰ σοῦ εἰμι τοῦ σῴζειν σε

Jer_15:21 I will deliver you out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem you out of the hand of the terrible.

Jer_15:21 For I am with you, to save you, and to deliver you out of the hand of wicked men; and I will ransom you out of the hand of pestilent men.

Jer_15:21  καὶ ἐξαιρεῖσθαί σε ἐκ χειρὸς πονηρῶν καὶ λυτρώσομαί σε ἐκ χειρὸς λοιμῶν.

 

 

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> Main Scriptures

>> Samuel listening before understanding – incl. the example of HCGs

Trust until the issue of justice comes forward and then you can make hard core statements / calling people out like Jesus did

 

> Reading Mark

 

12/10/14; 12/17/15

fear of Lord beginning of wisdom… depart from evil

Fear of Lord is clean

Jas_3:17first holy-clean

Balaam saw pleased lord

Finding out what pleases / finding what is pleasing to the Lord...

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Contents

Discernment Bible study.. 2

In General. 2

Greek – Discernment Means Judging!. 3

Salvation Discernment. 3

Why it is an issue of Salvation.. 3

What is it About Hearing God’s Voice That Saves People?. 3

Man shall not live upon bread alone…... 3

Today If You Hear. 5

Order of Events. 6

Historical Problem... 6

“Aside” to sin – in Hebrews. 6

Defining Divine Appellation.. 6

All those who hear will arise.. 7

Do Only What you see or Hear God Declaring.. 7

Lead by the Spirit. 8

Do What is Placed in your Lap.. 8

Primary Scriptures. 8

Malachi 3 – The Prophet’s Prophecy of Promised Perception.. 8

Php 1 – Perception is in the Basic Prayer!. 8

Heb 5 – Exercised Discernment. 9

1Co 12 – The Spiritual (Gift) of Discernment. 9

1Co 2 – Demonstrate The Right Spirit, with Power. 9

2Ti 2 – A Solid, Firm Foundation Proclaims God’s Testimony.. 9

Hear God’s Testimony!. 10

Other Important Scripture about Discernment. 10

Also see these Verses. 10

The Cost and Urgent Warning of Discernment. 10

What Does it Mean to Hear God's Voice?. 10

No Image.. 10

God Speaks in Many Ways. 11

But it is about Being Right, Not Colorful. 11

Testing Your Hearing Before Speaking! 11

Serious Discernment Exhortations. 12

An Early Exhortation.. 12

Predestination, Mis-Discerning, and Philosophies. 15

Discernment and Predestination-. 15

Mis-Discerning Hurts. 17

More.. 17

Philosophies. 18

Discernment – Biblical Proofs and Biblical Exposition.. 18

Primary Exhortation.. 19

Fear and Trembling.. 25

Desire It. 26

Discernment vs. What we want to believe. 27

2 Discernments. 28

Email to Jason Dueñas. 31

A Word For Mike About Discernment. 31

Rochelle Discernment Question.. 32

Josiahs’ Reply To Rochelle’s Question.. 32

Discernment Prayers for Angelle. 33

Other Excerpts. 38

Spiritual Gifts Questionnaire.. 38

Youth Group Story.. 38

Different Covenants. 38

Other Thoughts that Need to be Typed out. 39

 

Discernment Bible study

 

Inro

 

Joh_5:42-47 CAB  But I have known you, that you do not have the love of God in yourselves.  43  I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.  44  How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and do not seek the glory which is from the only God?  45  Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, in whom you have hoped.  46  For if you believed Moses, you would have believed Me; for he wrote about Me.  47  But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

 

Those workers of lawlessness, partners in crime was Satan himself, they love darkness!

 

Jesus made us accountable to our ‘belief in the scriptures’, by bringing Himself in the flesh, and making the word come right in front of their face in the flesh.

 

He came to be a person right in front of them, to shine the light and expose the hypocrisy of those who theoretically claim to believe the scriptures, but did not do it’s works.

 

Today these same hypocrites read Jesus’ Words, and conveniently apply them to back then, but refuse to come to the truth that is place right in front of their eyes.

 

Instead of actually obeying what this actually commands us to do, they turn it and twist it, and make it out to only apply back then to what was right before them, but they only apply it today a theoretical ‘relationship w JC’ that is right back in the dark, where no one can hold them accountable as Jesus demanded of them. They glory in their cursed fate and turn the charge to obey God’s current voice in the earth, and turn it to the shadows as though it was a charge to reverence personal guidance spirits that no one can see.

 

They turn it to the invisible so that the blinded masses cannot see the judgment call they are making.

 

And because they know the masses don’t discern a thing, they can get away with whatever wickedness they want, as long as they claim to believe and Jesus.

 

Jesus said that the theoretical claim to ‘believe the scriptures’ would be tested, and proven, and held accountable by the light that was shining right in front of your eyes, yes, that was in shining straighten your face.

 

Jesus call people to light, social accountability, confirmable truth that had integrity!

 

Then we turn it around only to make it a comfortable convenience of vague and unspecified spiritual ideas, so that no one can call us out on our spiritual crimes

 

(that sound biblical and use bible words)

 

Bringing your works to the light means that everyone can see that what you do is been done of God, but those were of the darkness say that ‘no one can know what your works are’, and ‘no one can know whether or not you’re saved’.

 

It is high time to expose people, and show with light who serves God, and glory in truth, and absolutely demand social accountability (LIGHT) so that truth is known before all men, and no one can make any more silly claims that make big and religious boasts about their personal guidance spirits,

 

Religion is a personal matter? Yes, your religion is obsessed with darkness isn’t it? You want to keep your morality “personal” so that no one knows the evil you constantly do, and the lusts you commit every day! You want it ‘personal’ so you can worship your own ego in secret and still have all the social benefits of looking like an honorable chirstian who is praying to Jesus! Fool and dirty hypocrite! Lover of Darkness! Hater of light, that exposes everything you really are so that all know what is really going on in your homosexual heart!

 

You take everything Jesus said to demand accountability and twist it as though it encouraged the worst filthiness that He hates!

 

 

In General

- It is an issue of integrity

- it is the question of trying to answer the age-old question:

who is right? Now what exactly is morality? Is there a such a thing as righteousness?

We all seem to theoretically know that right and wrong exist, but does it really exist in an absolute sense so I can know exactly where people are at??

 

When do I have a right to promote what I like?

When have I actually stopped promoting paganism and demon worship??

 

On another note:

Some have had insightful detection of problems, but now we seek Divine discernment of truth

 

Greek – Discernment Means Judging!

διάκρισις (G1253) – lit. Judge through; fig. thoroughly discern

 

G1253: Rom_14:1 (False Dis.); 1Co_12:10; Heb_5:14;

 

Strong’s Greek

G1253 διάκρισις diakrisis dee-ak’-ree-sis

From G1252; judicial estimation: - discern (-ing), disputation.

 

Word Study Greek

G1253 διάκρισις

diákrisis; gen. diakríseōs, fem. noun from diakrínō (G1252), to distinguish, decide, judge. A distinguishing, discerning clearly, i.e., spoken of the act or power (1Co_12:10; Heb_5:14). By implication Rom_14:1, literally meaning not for scrutinizing of thoughts, i.e., not with searching out and pronouncing judgment on their opinions (cf. Rom_14:5, Rom_14:13). This also could be rendered as doubts, scruples.

Syn.: diágnōsis (G1233), diagnosis, judgment, thorough understanding; gnṓmē (G1106), opinion.

Ant.: apátē (G539), deceit; plánē (G4106), delusion, error; agnóēma (G51), ignorance.

 

 

Salvation Discernment

 

Why it is an issue of Salvation

- Real sheep will not listen to another

- be attracted to the right gospel

- Do Exercised discernment, or your blood will be on your own head!

 

Joh_6:44  CAB No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me should draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.  45  It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be taught of God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to Me.

(also see Joh_6:63)

 

What is it About Hearing God’s Voice That Saves People?

 

One goal:

- that you love Jesus

- Don’t ever forget the context we speak in here

- Pentecostal > Mennonites

- Always remember that teaching is different than being confused

- don’t be silly and mix up the attacker and the victim!

 

Not being desperate to hear God’s voice is not being a follower of Jesus

Believe in Goodness… Lust after hearing God’s voice!

 

Man shall not live upon bread alone…

But “upon every spoken word [ῥήματι] that goes out through [διὰ] the mouth of God,” (Mat_4:4 Jos.Trans.; from Deu_8:3, and also found in Luk_4:4)

 

Charge:

- Be emotionally, vitally dependent on something happening in your life to where you hear God’s voice to live.

- If you live any other way, you are dead!

- If you promote your death as though God’s ideal were lost flesh service, you are a heretic.

 

- Apostates speak rebellion and hypocrisy with hateful words like, “we hear his voice through his word” – if that treachery has found any place at all in your heart, desperately repent to find life!

- (remember Galatians)

- it must never be that we go from Pentecostalism (perverseness in demons) to Dry-ism (perverting the Bible) – if so, you have not really changed at all!

- We ought not to go from perverting the commands of the Scriptures (Pentecostalism) to perverting our claim of reverence for it (anti-Pentecostalism), and still breaking its commands

- unlike the patriarchs, people who say such things declare plainly that they do not love life or honor or truth from God’s hand

- those who claim the spirit but openly disrespect the Bible do so by demons, and those who claim the Bible, but disobey its commands do so by demons. But the enemy is always the same and the answer has never changed

- we need to be solid!

- Dry-ism promotes the heresy that this fleshly service to God is what he approves of and wants as his ideal

- how does the Bible command us to hear His voice? – now don’t go and break it and cover over your wicked treachery with a hypocritical, disobedient claim to honor God by filthy sin

 

Act_21:10-11 CAB  And while we remained there several days, a certain prophet from Judea named Agabus came down.  11  And coming to us and taking Paul's belt, and binding his feet and hands, he said, "Thus says the Holy Spirit, ' The man whose belt this is, the Jews will bind in this way in Jerusalem, and they will deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.' "

 

- we are not in a different covenant here!

 

- Consider the context: in the desert, not reading in church!

- it says “spoken word” not your quiet time

- if you have any respect at all for what is written, banish this hypocrisy of pretending to ‘honor the word’ while breaking all of its favor and pronouncements for life!

- The original concepts in the Bible which Pentecostalism perverts are not the enemy!! Don’t take man’s apostasy out on God! Don’t kick God to get back at Pentecostalism!

- although what I’m saying sounds beyond ridiculous, this is common-place among anti-faith traditions that worship deadness and hate faith in the goodness of God and being saved from sin to actually be the truth in the Scriptures

- we are not fleshly Israel here… we can be the Bible

 

- hold yourself accountable to hearing more than the fleshly Joe

- Don’t make the reverence of the Bible out to contradict its own Commands!!

 

>> What about Peter??

>> everyone who hears comes to truth

 

Mar_12:24 WEB  Jesus answered them, "Isn't this because you are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God?

[Mat_22:29]

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Luk_11:42 WEB  But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, but you bypass justice and the love of God. You ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone.

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Mat_23:23-25 WEB  "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone.  24  You blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel!  25  "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and unrighteousness.

 

1Sa_15:22, Hos_6:6,

 

Isa_29:10-15 CAB  For the Lord has made you to drink a spirit of deep sleep; and He shall close their eyes, and the eyes of their prophets and of their rulers, who see secret things.  11  And all these things shall be to you as the words of this sealed book, which if they shall give to a learned man, saying, Read this, he shall then say, I cannot read it, for it is sealed.  12  And this book shall be given into the hands of a man that is unlearned, and one shall say to him, Read this; and he shall say, I am not learned.  13  And the Lord has said, This people draw near to Me with their mouth, and they honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; and in vain do they worship Me, teaching the commandments and doctrines of men.  14  Therefore behold, I will proceed to remove this people, and I will remove them; and I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will hide the understanding of the prudent.  15  Woe to them that deepen their counsel, and not by the Lord. Woe to them that take secret counsel, and whose works are in darkness, and they say, Who has seen us? And who shall know us, or what we do?

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Isa_29:11-14 WEB  All vision has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one who is educated, saying, "Read this, please;" and he says, "I can't, for it is sealed:"  12  and the book is delivered to one who is not educated, saying, "Read this, please;" and he says, "I can't read."  13  The Lord said, "Because this people draws near with their mouth and with their lips to honor me, but they have removed their heart far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment of men which has been taught;  14  therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and a wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their prudent men will be hidden."

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Mat_15:6-9 WEB  …You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition.  7  You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,  8  'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9  And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.' "

 

Mar_7:6-9 WEB  He answered them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.  7  But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'  8  "For you set aside the commandment of God, and hold tightly to the tradition of men-the washing of pitchers and cups, and you do many other such things."  9  He said to them, "Full well do you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.

 

Mar_7:13 WEB  making void the word of God by your tradition, which you have handed down. You do many things like this."

 

>> you refuse to come to me

 

Jer_2:8 CAB  The priest said not, Where is the Lord? And they that held by the law knew Me not: the shepherds also sinned against Me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and went after that which profited not.

 

 

Today If You Hear

Initial: Psa_95:8; Heb_2:1-3no esc; Heb_3:7, Heb_3:15-17; Heb_4:1-2; Heb_4:7; Heb_10:28-29 no esc

Primary: Exo CH 19-20; Deu_5:22-28; Deu_18:16, Act_7:38; Heb_12:18, etc.

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Heb_12:25 – no escaping!

 

 

Order of Events

- Burning speaking

 

- They ‘request themselves aside’ – no more hearing voice

- God says, “good”/ right

- Moses Speaking to them now

 

- they ‘asked aside’ again in making a calf??

 

- they disobey (idolatry)

- They do not escape punishment

- today if you hear do not harden

- don’t ‘ask yourself aside’ from hearing voice, because you will not escape either

 

Historical Problem

- Fleshly and complacent Jews have continually considered themselves sinful (unavoidable with Moses’ law) but have firmly and stubbornly believed that they were still received by God (false equation of physical life with spiritual- eternal life of resurrection)

- The Prophets and Hard-core Judaism (including Jesus and original Christianity) consistently taught that God only tolerated them and continually demanded more and threatened punishment without change

 

“Aside” to sin – in Hebrews

Heb_2:1 – παραρρυωμεν WE SHOULD SLIP

Heb_2:2 – παραβασις TRANSGRESSION

Heb_3:8 – παραπικρασμω PROVOCATION

Heb_3:15 – παραπικρασμω PROVOCATION

Heb_3:16 – παρεπικραναν PROVOKED

Heb_6:6 – παραπεσοντας " WHO " FELL AWAY

Heb_9:15 – παραβασεων TRANSGRESSIONS

Heb_10:24 – παροξυσμον PROVOKING

Heb_12:12 – παρειμενας HANGING DOWN

Heb_12:19 – παρητησαντο ASKED/ EXCUSED THEMSELVES ASIDE

Heb_12:25 – παραιτησησθε ASKED/ EXCUSED ASIDE

 

Defining Divine Appellation

(G5494 / G5490)

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(possibly from G5495  Hand)

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(G5530 χράομαι   to furnish what is needed/ touch slightly- entreat, use/ make the most of/ treat well or badly)/ (G5531 χράω – to lend)

Compare G5534 χρή - ought

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G5536 χρῆμα useful or needed, that is, wealth, price: - money, riches

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G5537 χρηματίζω   an affair, business (Sept.: 1Ki_18:27)

 

(compare the secular sense of G5532)

 

Of kings and magistrates, to do business publicly, to give audience; to answer as to ambassadors, petitioners, to warn, advise, give a response or decision.

 

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(G5538), an oracle, response or decision

 

 

They could not endure God's voice

Heb 12

- Don't let us hear anymore lest we die!

- there is an infinite guilt that even they could feel that builds up when wicked people hear the voice of God

 

‘You search the Scriptures, but refuse to come’

not as the liberals say…

There is a valid level which it applies:

 

There are those who drag their feet and act like lap-communication is the only thing they are responsible for acting on!

Such are evil, and supposing that God wanted service from those who hate Him.

 

All those who hear will arise

Joh_5:24-28 WEB  "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.  25  Most certainly, I tell you, the hour comes, and now is, when the dead will hear the Son of God's voice; and those who hear will live.  26  For as the Father has life in himself, even so he gave to the Son also to have life in himself.  27  He also gave him authority to execute judgment, because he is a son of man.  28  Don't marvel at this, for the hour comes, in which all that are in the tombs will hear his voice,

 

Joh_5:30-32 WEB  I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don't seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.  31  "If I testify about myself, my witness is not valid.  32  It is another who testifies about me. I know that the testimony which he testifies about me is true.

 

TSK – Every: Joh_6:37, Joh_6:65, Joh_5:38-40, Joh_10:27, Joh_16:14, Joh_16:15, Mat_11:27, Mat_17:5, Eph_1:17, 1Jo_4:1-3

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Hearts burn

 

End

I aspire for all of you to go home and seek to hear God’s voice till you live

 

 

Do Only What you see or Hear God Declaring

Be in Submission to Divine Direction

Joh_5:19 - Can do nothing unless He sees the Father doing it

Joh_5:30 - As I hear I judge

Joh_6:38 - the will of Him who sent me

Joh_8:29 - with me... always do what is pleasing

(Compare Holy Spirit: Joh_16:13)

Joh_18:37 - He who is of the Truth

 

>> where is the master version of this??? – John Summaries?

Sheep Hear Voice

Joh_10:3-4 - He goes before them

Joh_10:5 - not voice of stranger

Joh_10:8 - Sheep did not hear robbers

Joh_10:10 - thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy

Joh_10:12 - wolf snatches scatters

Joh_10:14 - I am known by My own \/ added 8/27/11

Joh_10:16 – “other sheep” will hear

Joh_10:26-27 – Not my sheep, you will not hear (read Joh_10:26-30)

Joh_10:40-42 – The Sheep show up!

 

WAIT for God to Speak:

Hab_2:1 CAB  I will stand upon my watch, and mount upon the rock, and watch to see what He will say by me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.

 

Lead by the Spirit

Gal_5:18

Rom_8:14

 

Do What is Placed in your Lap

Do what's in your (refined) heart

1Ch_17:2

2Sa_7:3;

 

The Justice Of Discernment

The justice of Discernment can be summed up in the SOM.

 

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4/30/15

 

Some men's sin are clear ahead of time but others come after judgement

 

So don't lay on hands quickly... Keep yourself pure...

 

Paul does not judge himself... But only testimony matters as a way to stop hidden motives from condemning you later

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The most basic of all excesised discernment is found in the words "you will know the by their fruit" - but make sure you are a SOM fruit inspecter, and not a silly niceness justifyer - He said, "did you do what I told you to do?" doing fruit is different than haveing "niceness" qualities. Whenever you think fruit justifys santa, you have become a hypocrite who dos not know what Jesus looks like because you did not take His warnings at the end of the SOM seriously.

 

Jesus flipps the scandal accusation onto those who disobey.

If they recieve you they recieve me...

 

Both exercised dis. As well as saving your own soul will fall in places like this.

 

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...i am extremely thankful and excited that we are not dealing w competitions w false prophesys, and that we don't srive w foolish quick "words" thrown out all the time. (we reverence getting judged/not pentecostal vanity)

 

- Discern/judge yourself (remove your own plank) so that you are turned within yourself until you are finally made of truth... - Add: How to perceive

 

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Main Scriptures

>> Also see critical considerations of favor recognition!

>> Check authority and healing (and others?) to see if they have refs

>> JCH, and Judging Poem

 

>> Intro

Discernment has the potential to easily revolutionize the way you feel valued.

 

It took me a lot of trials and adventures to finally percieve how th mighty and overwhelming testimony of God was still Just and merciful. -- I wrote a section called “the Justice of Discernment” so that I could pull down from all the mysteries of heaven why God speaks so harshly against people and rejecting those who seem to be “good people”.

 

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Not wanting to put the pressure on you or make you feel lousy for not hearing things, but seeking to provoke you with the faith and favor I have been given so you will be provoked to believe that you definitely can hear God’s voice…

 

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We are still not seeking to directly teach you how to hear God's voice, but I am doing everything I can to entice you in that direction...

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Accuracy...

God did not let any of Samuel words fall to the ground...

Now that's integrty! -- I have been increasing with vital determination in this great direction...

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Discernment Can Be the Reward of Being Punished Much

Discernment can make you truer than everyone else as a result of being rebuked and corrected more than everyone else

The domestic Discipline references we have made recently are very appropriate (and hopefully we’ll get to do a whole Bible study on that)

If you do not beg for correction you’re are not likely to ever have a lot of discernment

 

Discernment is about the most vulnerable and subjected posture you can be before God, i.e. Moses is faithful in all My house

 

Discernment is about the solid integrity of truth that results in being corrected to the most thorough depths

It is about getting assurance from weakness and proclamation from many rebukes

 

 

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Mk sure this is emphasized at an intro/at the top: 'without discernment, in one or two generations it will be s thow we never did anything, (except what we leave in writing). Paul: Act 20: grievious woulves will arrise from your own number...'

>> fear of the Lord is clean

>> don’t Morn Over their Dead god!

 

>> ADD 1Jn (that you may know you have...) and add it to justice of SOM?

 

>>Scrip:

That the eyes of your understanding may be enlightened

>> I would like to pray this over you

>> if you believe me, you will perceive -- (if not now, then later)

 

Eph_5:17 - understanding the will of the Lord

>> incl. Rom_12: changing mind to test and approve God’s perfect will

 

>> put w 1Co_2 (below…) – when CAN know things beyond human wisdom

>> or rather: with exercised discernment

>>  Balaam saw that it pleased the Lord

 

1Ki_19:11-12 - Elijah: God was not in the fire, wind, etc.

This is the height of discernment in action!

Talk about discerning what everything is!

 

Moses was faithful in all My house

 

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6/19/14

Joh2 - not trusting

 

Gift vs. Discipline of it

 

Finding out the will of God - what you do makes a difference

 

Intro Preparations

 

 

2/16/15; 7/15/18

 

Intro/purpose

If we were at an assembly and someone was the leader/preacher there and had some things on but a few things off, I still do not know that you would be able to consistently know what was on and perfect and what was not promoting the favor of God and approved by His testimony. Right now you have been mostly in an incubator towere you just hear me (and Al) and maybe you prefer to just have me as a 'cannon' so that you know that you will be safe and point toward God's approval, but although that can work for now, if I am martyred I need you to be able to reproduce truth and not error when I am away...

 

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>> Lest anyone should think of me above what they should…

 

 

I speak of excelent things, but I am worthy of none of it... In myself I am a fool, but I have been mecied to speak of things out of this world...

Acts: Not through our own righteousnes

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do not set your heart on any of your spiritual perceptions, even about yourself. becuase you are worth more than you know, and usually you do not understand your own salvation and cleanness. Discernment will tell you about your birthright... which is much better than you think it is.

In terms of excersized dis. You may be working and learning, but issues of birthright are much higher than even that. Since we do not have a lot of higher discernment going on, we should not each walk quickly or much at all in these higher areas.

A blind person does not walk himself, but waits to be lead. Similarly, even though excersized is working, we still need some heafty discernment and even prophesy before basing our actions on what we do not really see.

If you do see hints and fragments, at this point, be clear and firm: you do not yet understand them. Virtually Absolute posture: store them in your heart, wish for everything but commit to nothing, ask lots of questions. I solomly charge you to zealously and militantly keep this righteous and obedient and reverent and safe and faithful sober posture.

you are not doing good when you have ideas and specifics, you are doing good when you are sitting still and waiting on truth and asking lots of questions about yourself and others in the meantime.

 

I am warning you: I am desparate to make you an assembly that would keep reproducing truth on the earth after i might be martyered. If you don't be gripped with exact and reverent obedience you will mistakenly reproducing false converts just like everyone else, even after all we have been though! You still have the capacity to put everything right back to squre one, just as the early church did at Nicea.

- as JD would do when she was w us, and as she finally did do as soon as her harlotry got the best of her

- dispite all our progress, we still have the capacity to reproduce XA disciples who go off in their "prayer groups" and pray to other gods for each other in the corner.

- I am not saying that you ARE hitting bad material, but I am saying you certinly WILL if you do not hold a strict grip to keep your faithful boundaries as creatures until you are helped with divinity to even touch these higher things.

- glorify the "Gidion effect"

- don't be proactive, but be eternally patient

 

You shall reverently hold your heart and know that your own goodness is still your accedent, and you do not yet own a copy right capacity.

 

I am intentionally working on the weighty and eternal distinctions that you do not yet see.

 

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When I speak of excellent things, know that they are holy things that people do not usually get to hear

As such, they will tend to make you overwhelmed, and possibly even sad or discouraged in some cases, but keep in mind that this is why God has not told you these things yet. He would rather you understand less and believe more from what you already have than to tempt you with what you do not yet know how to believe / be faithful with.

So respond to the rare privilege in the most pure and light-filled way possible so that God may be entreated to show you more things after showing yourself as a good candidate to be one who is “faithful in all God’s house”.

 

When you feel like you should be sad or even as if the Word of God has dashed your hopes to the ground – know and recognize your life, and respond with better hope and optimism and even cheerfulness so that you will be trusted.

 

Remember: If you are made sad, you really do not understand (or even have a clue?) what good things are being said to you!

 

If you do not understand, Just listen and breath for life. If you must be sad because of the weighty sobriety and serious implications, then after you have mourned, then very quickly get up and rejoice at the Word of God until you may one day know how it all fits together to profit you…

 

 

The Harshness of God's Testimony

The Unexpected & Shocking Harshness of Discerning the Real Voice of God

 

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9/27/15

 

At first God's testimony sounds shockingly harsh, and seems crewl for no reason...

 

Macc: they found idols in their coat pockets

Joh: Those who reguard lying vanities...

 

Men are always surprisingly more evil than our blind and evil heart ever wants to admit:

 

Luk13: The tower fell on them... Were they worse sinners?

 

Gen: heart of man brewds on evil continually

 

 

And even if God's testimony seems mean spirited to abominablly crew and evil people, yet on Judgement no one will escape the reality of His mercy and truth and overflowing kindness and Justice on intollerably wicked and evil men.

 

 

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Isiah 55 – Heavens Higher than Earth, God’s Thought Higher Than Ours

 

Isa_55:6-9, etc. (esp.  Isa_55:8-9)

Isa_55:8 WEB "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," says Yahweh.

Isa_55:8 CAB For My counsels are not as your counsels, nor are My ways as your ways, says the Lord.

Isa_55:8  οὐ γάρ εἰσιν αἱ βουλαί μου ὥσπερ αἱ βουλαὶ ὑμῶν οὐδὲ ὥσπερ αἱ ὁδοὶ ὑμῶν αἱ ὁδοί μου, λέγει κύριος·

Isa_55:9 WEB "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isa_55:9 CAB But as the heaven is distant from the earth, so is My way distant from your ways, and your thoughts from My mind.

Isa_55:9  ἀλλ᾿ ὡς ἀπέχει ὁ οὐρανὸς ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς, οὕτως ἀπέχει ἡ ὁδός μου ἀπὸ τῶν ὁδῶν ὑμῶν καὶ τὰ διανοήματα ὑμῶν ἀπὸ τῆς διανοίας μου.

 

God does not think like we do

God does not think like us

Aids

Death

Etc.

God had Samson marry a philistine and go through grief just to get back at His enemies

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3/18/15

Moses was faithful in all God's House...

He would agree w everything God was saying... No matter how hard or painful...

"You are a stiff necked generation"

Therefore, this is why Moses is called God's Therapy!

 

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First Corinthians 2 – Spiritual People Who Know and Judging Up Everything

 

(A) Summary of Preceding Context: We Refused To Impress You, Oh Foolish And Freshly Corinthians

1Co_2:1-6 – No “passionate”/“Persuasiveness” [πειθοῖς] of “man’s Wisdom Words” [ἀνθρωπίνης σοφίας λόγοις] (1Co_2:4) [also: ὑπεροχὴν λόγου ἢ σοφίας (1Co_2:1)], or wisdom which is being destroyed [σοφίαν…καταργουμένων] (1Co_2:6), but weakness [ἀσθενείᾳ], fear [φόβῳ], much trembling [πολλῷ ἐγενόμην] (1Co_2:3), self-denial, and flesh crucifixion [᾿Ιησοῦν Χριστὸν, καὶ τοῦτον ἐσταυρωμένον] (1Co_2:2) and power (1Co_2:5) instead!

 

1Co_2:6-8 – But Apostle-glorifying, Devine Wisdom is spoken among the Perfect/fully grown/“initiated”/“sanctified”/“consecrated for special Service” [Σοφίαν δὲ λαλοῦμεν ἐν τοῖς τελείοις]

 

(B) Main Passage: Soul-ish Fool vs. Wise Spiritual Person Who Knows the Deep Infinity of God by Divine Revelation

1Co_2:9-16 CAB  But as it is written: "Eye [:\ὀφθαλμὸς:\] has not seen [:\εἶδεν:\ (i.e. perceived)], nor ear heard [:\ἤκουσεν:\], nor have ·entered into [:\ἀνέβη:\ – lit. arisen up again (in)] the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."  10  But God has revealed [:\ἀπεκάλυψεν:\] them to us ·through His Spirit [:\διὰ τοῦ Πνεύματος αὐτοῦ:\]. ·For the Spirit searches all things, even [:\καὶ:\] the depths of God [:\τὸ γὰρ Πνεῦμα πάντα ἐραυνᾷ, καὶ τὰ βάθη τοῦ Θεοῦ:\].  11  For who among men knows [:\οἶδεν:\] the things of a man, except [:\εἰ μὴ:\] the spirit of the man [:\τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ ἀνθρώπου:\] which is in him? Even so, no one [:\οὐδεὶς:\] knows [:\οἶδεν:\] the things of God except [:\εἰ μὴ:\] the Spirit of [the] God [:\τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ Θεοῦ:\].  12  Now we did not receive [:\ἐλάβομεν:\] the spirit of the world, but ·the Spirit [the one] which is :\from:\ [:\ἐκ –:\ out of] God [:\τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ:\], ·in order that [:\ἵνα:\] we might know [:\εἰδῶμεν:\ – perceive] the things granted to us by [:\ὑπὸ –:\ lit. under] God [:\ἵνα εἰδῶμεν τὰ ὑπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ χαρισθέντα ἡμῖ:\];  13  which things we also speak, ·not in words taught in human wisdom [:\οὐκ ἐν διδακτοῖς ἀνθρωπίνης σοφίας λόγοις:\], but [:\ἀλλ᾿:\] ·in [:\ἐν:\] :\words:\ [:\no Greek for this:\] [fig. that which is] taught by the Holy Spirit [:\ἐν διδακτοῖς Πνεύματος ῾Αγίου:\], comparing [:\συγκρίνοντες –:\ judging together] spiritual things with spiritual [:\πνευματικοῖς πνευματικὰ συγκρίνοντες:\].  14  But the natural [:\ψυχικὸς –:\ soul-ish] man [:\ψυχικὸς δὲ ἄνθρωπος:\] does not receive [:\δέχεται:\] the things of the Spirit of [the] God [:\τὰ τοῦ Πνεύματος τοῦ Θεοῦ:\], for they are foolishness [:\μωρία:\] to him; nor can [:\δύναται:\] he know [:\γνῶναι –:\ i.e. know the knowledge of (i.e. different word than v. 11, etc.)] them [:\οὐ δύναται γνῶναι:\], because [:\ὅτι –:\ (in) that] they are spiritually [:\πνευματικῶς:\] [fig:] discerned [:\ἀνακρίνεται –:\ lit. (intensely/thoroughly) judged up again].  15  But he that is spiritual [:\πνευματικὸς:\] [:\μὲν –:\ truly/verily/indeed/amen (omitted in Eng)] discerns [:\ἀνακρίνει –:\ judges up again] all things [:\τὰ πάντα –:\ the everything], ·yet [:\δὲ:\] he himself [:\αὐτὸ:\] is discerned [:\ἀνακρίνεται –:\ lit. (intensely) judged up again] by [:\ὑπ᾿ –:\ under] no man [:\οὐδενὸς:\] [:\αὐτὸς δὲ ὑπ᾿ οὐδενὸς ἀνακρίνεται:\].  16  For "Who has known [:\ἔγνω:\] the mind [:\νοῦν:\] of :\the:\ LORD, that he may instruct [:\συμβιβάσει:\] Him?" But we have the mind [:\νοῦν:\] of Christ [:\Χριστοῦ –:\ anointed one].

1Co_2:9-16 Greek  ἀλλὰ καθὼς γέγραπται, ἃ ὀφθαλμὸς οὐκ εἶδε καὶ οὖς οὐκ ἤκουσε καὶ ἐπὶ καρδίαν ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἀνέβη, ἃ ἡτοίμασεν ὁ Θεὸς τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν αὐτόν.  10  ἡμῖν δὲ ὁ Θεὸς ἀπεκάλυψε διὰ τοῦ Πνεύματος αὐτοῦ· τὸ γὰρ Πνεῦμα πάντα ἐραυνᾷ, καὶ τὰ βάθη τοῦ Θεοῦ.  11  τίς γὰρ οἶδεν ἀνθρώπων τὰ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου εἰ μὴ τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ ἀνθρώπου τὸ ἐν αὐτῷ; οὕτω καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ οὐδεὶς εἶδεν εἰ μὴ τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ Θεοῦ.  12  ἡμεῖς δὲ οὐ τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ κόσμου ἐλάβομεν, ἀλλὰ τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἵνα εἰδῶμεν τὰ ὑπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ χαρισθέντα ἡμῖν.  13  ἃ καὶ λαλοῦμεν οὐκ ἐν διδακτοῖς ἀνθρωπίνης σοφίας λόγοις, ἀλλ᾿ ἐν διδακτοῖς Πνεύματος ῾Αγίου, πνευματικοῖς πνευματικὰ συγκρίνοντες.  14  ψυχικὸς δὲ ἄνθρωπος οὐ δέχεται τὰ τοῦ Πνεύματος τοῦ Θεοῦ· μωρία γὰρ αὐτῷ ἐστι, καὶ οὐ δύναται γνῶναι, ὅτι πνευματικῶς ἀνακρίνεται.  15  ὁ δὲ πνευματικὸς ἀνακρίνει μὲν τὰ πάντα, αὐτὸς δὲ ὑπ᾿ οὐδενὸς ἀνακρίνεται.  16  τίς γὰρ ἔγνω νοῦν Κυρίου, ὃς συμβιβάσει αὐτόν; ἡμεῖς δὲ νοῦν Χριστοῦ ἔχομεν.

1Co_2:9-16 iGNTtr - Grm  9  ἀλλὰ But G235 CONJ  καθὼς According As G2531 ADV  γέγραπται It Has Been Written, G1125 V-RPI-3S  Things Which G3739 R-APN  ὀφθαλμὸς Eye G3788 N-NSM  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  εἶδεν Saw Not, G1492 V-2AAI-3S  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  οὖς Ear G3775 N-NSN  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἤκουσεν Heard Not, G191 V-AAI-3S  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  ἐπὶ Into G1909 PREP  καρδίαν Heart G2588 N-ASF  ἀνθρώπου Of Man G444 N-GSM  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἀνέβη Came Not, G305 V-2AAI-3S  Which G3739 R-APN  ἡτοίμασεν Prepared G2090 V-AAI-3S  G3588 T-NSM  θεὸς God G2316 N-NSM  τοῖς For Those That G3588 T-DPM  ἀγαπῶσιν Love G25 V-PAP-DPM  αὐτόν Him, G846 P-ASM  10  ἡμῖν G2254 P-1DP  δὲ But To Us G1161 CONJ  G3588 T-NSM  θεὸς God G2316 N-NSM  ἀπεκάλυψεν Revealed Them G601 V-AAI-3S  διὰ By G1223 PREP  τοῦ G3588 T-GSN  πνεύματος G4151 N-GSN  αὐτοῦ· His Spirit; G846 P-GSM  τὸ G3588 T-NSN  γὰρ For The G1063 CONJ  πνεῦμα Spirit G4151 N-NSN  πάντα All Things G3956 A-APN  ἐρευνᾷ, Searches, G2045 V-PAI-3S  καὶ Even G2532 CONJ  τὰ The G3588 T-APN  βάθη Depths G899 N-APN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ Of God. G2316 N-GSM  11  τίς G5101 I-NSM  γὰρ For Who G1063 CONJ  οἶδεν Knows G1492 V-RAI-3S  ἀνθρώπων Of Men G444 N-GPM  τὰ The Things G3588 T-APN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  ἀνθρώπου Of Man, G444 N-GSM  εἰ G1487 COND  μὴ Except G3361 PRT-N  τὸ The G3588 T-NSN  πνεῦμα Spirit G4151 N-NSN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  ἀνθρώπου Of Man G444 N-GSM  τὸ Which Is G3588 T-NSN  ἐν In G1722 PREP  αὐτῷ Him? G846 P-DSM  οὕτως So G3779 ADV  καὶ Also G2532 CONJ  τὰ The Things G3588 T-APN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ Of God G2316 N-GSM  οὐδεὶς No One G3762 A-NSM  οἶδεν Knows, G1492 V-RAI-3S  εἰ G1487 COND  μὴ Except G3361 PRT-N  τὸ The G3588 T-NSN  πνεῦμα Spirit G4151 N-NSN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ Of God. G2316 N-GSM  12  ἡμεῖς G2249 P-1NP  δὲ But We G1161 CONJ  οὐ Not G3756 PRT-N  τὸ The G3588 T-ASN  πνεῦμα Spirit G4151 N-ASN  τοῦ Of The G3588 T-GSM  κόσμου World G2889 N-GSM  ἐλάβομεν Received, G2983 V-2AAI-1P  ἀλλὰ But G235 CONJ  τὸ The G3588 T-ASN  πνεῦμα Spirit G4151 N-ASN  τὸ Which Is G3588 T-ASN  ἐκ From G1537 PREP  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ God, G2316 N-GSM  ἵνα That G2443 CONJ  εἰδῶμεν We Might Know G1492 V-RAS-1P  τὰ The Things G3588 T-APN  ὑπὸ By G5259 PREP  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ God G2316 N-GSM  χαρισθέντα Granted G5483 V-APP-APN  ἡμῖν· To Us : G2254 P-1DP  13  Which G3739 R-APN  καὶ Also G2532 CONJ  λαλοῦμεν We Speak, G2980 V-PAI-1P  οὐκ Not G3756 PRT-N  ἐν In G1722 PREP  διδακτοῖς Taught G1318 A-DPM  ἀνθρωπίνης Of Human G442 A-GSF  σοφίας Wisdom G4678 N-GSF  λόγοις Words, G3056 N-DPM  ἀλλ' But G235 CONJ  ἐν In Those G1722 PREP  διδακτοῖς Taught G1318 A-DPM  πνεύματος Of The Spirit G4151 N-GSN  ἁγίου, Holy, G40 A-GSN  πνευματικοῖς By Spiritual  Means  G4152 A-DPN  πνευματικὰ Spiritual Things G4152 A-APN  συγκρίνοντες Communicating. G4793 V-PAP-NPM  14  ψυχικὸς G5591 A-NSM  δὲ But The Natural G1161 CONJ  ἄνθρωπος Man G444 N-NSM  οὐ G3756 PRT-N  δέχεται Receives Not G1209 V-PNI-3S  τὰ The Things G3588 T-APN  τοῦ Of The G3588 T-GSN  πνεύματος Spirit G4151 N-GSN  τοῦ G3588 T-GSM  θεοῦ Of God, G2316 N-GSM  μωρία G3472 N-NSF  γὰρ For Foolishness G1063 CONJ  αὐτῷ To Him G846 P-DSM  ἐστιν They Are; G2076 V-PXI-3S  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  οὐ G3756 PRT-N  δύναται He Cannot G1410 V-PNI-3S  γνῶναι Know Them, G1097 V-2AAN  ὅτι Because G3754 CONJ  πνευματικῶς Spiritually G4153 ADV  ἀνακρίνεται· They Are Discerned; G350 V-PPI-3S  15  G3588 T-NSM  δὲ But The G1161 CONJ  πνευματικὸς Spiritual G4152 A-NSM  ἀνακρίνει G350 V-PAI-3S  μὲν Discerns G3303 PRT  πάντα All Things, G3956 A-APN  αὐτὸς G846 P-NSM  δὲ But He G1161 CONJ  ὑπ' By G5259 PREP  οὐδενὸς No One G3762 A-GSM  ἀνακρίνεται Is Discerned. G350 V-PPI-3S  16  τίς G5101 I-NSM  γὰρ For Who G1063 CONJ  ἔγνω Did Know The G1097 V-2AAI-3S  νοῦν Mind G3563 N-ASM  κυρίου Of The Lord? G2962 N-GSM  ὃς Who G3739 R-NSM  συμβιβάσει Shall Instruct G4822 V-FAI-3S  αὐτόν Him? G846 P-ASM  ἡμεῖς G2249 P-1NP  δὲ But We The G1161 CONJ  νοῦν Mind G3563 N-ASM  Χριστοῦ Of Christ G5547 N-GSM  ἔχομεν Have. G2192 V-PAI-1P

 

 

 

 

 

Ah Lord! Will You Make A Full End?

Real prophesy and discernment is not what the prophet’s own personality agrees with!

 

Eze_11:10-16 WEB  You shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and you shall know that I am Yahweh.  11  This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall you be the flesh in its midst; I will judge you in the border of Israel;  12  and you shall know that I am Yahweh: for you have not walked in my statutes, neither have you executed my ordinances, but have done after the ordinances of the nations that are around you.  13  It happened, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down on my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord Yahweh! will you make a full end of the remnant of Israel?  14  The word of Yahweh came to me, saying,  15  Son of man, your brothers, even your brothers, the men of your relatives, and all the house of Israel, all of them, are they to whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from Yahweh; to us is this land given for a possession.  16  Therefore say, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Whereas I have removed them far off among the nations, and whereas I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them a sanctuary for a little while in the countries where they are come.

 

Eze_11:10-16 CAB  You shall fall by the sword; I will judge you on the mountains of Israel; and you shall know that I am the Lord.  11  (TEXT OMITTED)  12  (TEXT OMITTED)  13  And it came to pass, while I was prophesying, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. And I fell upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Alas, alas, O Lord! Will you utterly destroy the remnant of Israel?  14  And the word of the Lord came to me, saying,  15  Son of man, your brethren, and the men of your captivity, and all the house of Israel have come to the full, to whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem said, Keep far away from the Lord: the land is given to us for an inheritance.  16  Therefore say, Thus says the Lord: I will cast them off among the nations, and will disperse them into every land, yet will I be to them for a little sanctuary in the countries which they shall enter.

 

>> Eat this…. – Surely not Lord!

>> this is a proof that you are dealing with a true spiritual thing that did not originate with you

 

 

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Not of Him Who Wills Or Runs…

 

Rom_9:15-18 CAB  For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."  16  So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God who shows mercy.  17  For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very thing I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be proclaimed in all the earth."  18  So then He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

 

See full context!: Rom_9:1-33; Rom_11:29-36 (esp. Rom_11:32-36)

 

Dis is about having a strong eye on predestination, because ultimately you are listening to "someone else’s" understanding rather than your own... It demands a harsh condemnation for people you would easily sympathize w, and you need to say, "Ah Lord God! You have chosen to do what pleases you! ...and.... Alase! Do not make a full end"

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8/27/14

Predestination: even God's temporary favor on Saul, the Lord's Anointed/Christ, was something to reverence... sometimes favor happens in unlikely places, with people whose character is not worthy, and we still need to acknowledge this kind substence, while simultaneously not approving of character flaws.

Sometimes, possibly even among us, an appreciation of favor can be mistaken as an absence of character flaws... As Samson apparently saw himself... This seems to always be the human condition of confusion toward the extra mercies of God... FEAR GOD! Don't let His kindness be used as leverage by you to neglect reverence for your duty that He demands of you!

) see:

- Balam BBs

- incl. Eli -- blessed Hanna, but was flawed himself

I want to justify God for all time: He does use Samsons, Eli's, Sauls, and God is clean, justified, and cleared of all responsiblity for all the ways they mess up.

 

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>> approval -- need to make a section on this

3/24/17

>>Scrip: not only do these very things, but also approve of those who practice them

 

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First Samuel 16 – God’s Testimony Rejects David’s Brothers, But Approves of David

Real prophesy and discernment is not what the prophet’s own personality agrees with!

 

1Sa_16:5-14 WEB  …He [Samuel] sanctified Jesse and his sons, and called them to the sacrifice.  6  It happened, when they had come, that he looked at Eliab, and said, Surely Yahweh's anointed is before him.  7  But Yahweh said to Samuel, "Don't look on his face, or on the height of his stature; because I have rejected him: for Yahweh sees not as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but Yahweh looks at the heart."  8  Then Jesse called Abinadab, and made him pass before Samuel. He said, Neither has Yahweh chosen this.  9  Then Jesse made Shammah to pass by. He said, Neither has Yahweh chosen this.  10  Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. Samuel said to Jesse, Yahweh has not chosen these.  11  Samuel said to Jesse, Are here all your children? He said, There remains yet the youngest, and behold, he is keeping the sheep. Samuel said to Jesse, Send and get him; for we will not sit down until he come here.  12  He sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful face, and goodly to look on. Yahweh said _, Arise, anoint him; for this is he.  13  Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brothers: and the Spirit of Yahweh came mightily on David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah.  14  Now the Spirit of Yahweh departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from Yahweh troubled him. 15  Saul's servants said to him, See now, an evil spirit from God troubles you.

1Sa_16:5-14 CAB  …And he [Samuel] sanctified Jesse and his sons, and he called them to the sacrifice.  6  And it came to pass when they came in, that he saw Eliab, and said, Surely the Lord's anointed is before Him.  7  But the Lord said to Samuel, Look not on his appearance, nor on his stature, for I have rejected [ἐξουδένωκα] him; for God sees [ὄψεται] not as man sees; [ἐμβλέψεται]for man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.  8  And Jesse called Abinadab, and he passed before Samuel. And he said, Neither has God chosen this one.  9  And Jesse caused Shammah to pass by. And he said, Neither has God chosen this one.  10  And Jesse caused his seven sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said, the Lord has not chosen these.  11  And Samuel said to Jesse, Have you no more sons? [1Sa_3:19] And Jesse said, There is yet a little one; behold, he tends the flock. And Samuel said to Jesse, Send and fetch him, for we may not sit down till he comes.  12  And he sent and fetched him. And he was ruddy, with beautiful eyes, and very good looking. And the Lord said to Samuel, Arise, and anoint David, for he is good.  13  And Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brothers. And the Spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward. And Samuel arose, and departed to Ramah.  14  And the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him. 15 And Saul's servants said to him, Behold now, and evil spirit from the Lord torments you.

1Sa_16:5-14 Greek  καὶ εἶπεν Εἰρήνη· θῦσαι τῷ κυρίῳ ἥκω, ἁγιάσθητε καὶ εὐφράνθητε μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ σήμερον. καὶ ἡγίασεν τὸν Ιεσσαι καὶ τοὺς υἱοὺς αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐκάλεσεν αὐτοὺς εἰς τὴν θυσίαν.  6  καὶ ἐγενήθη ἐν τῷ αὐτοὺς εἰσιέναι καὶ εἶδεν τὸν Ελιαβ καὶ εἶπεν Ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐνώπιον κυρίου χριστὸς αὐτοῦ.  7  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Σαμουηλ Μὴ ἐπιβλέψῃς ἐπὶ τὴν ὄψιν αὐτοῦ μηδὲ εἰς τὴν ἕξιν μεγέθους αὐτοῦ, ὅτι ἐξουδένωκα αὐτόν· ὅτι οὐχ ὡς ἐμβλέψεται ἄνθρωπος, ὄψεται ὁ θεός, ὅτι ἄνθρωπος ὄψεται εἰς πρόσωπον, ὁ δὲ θεὸς ὄψεται εἰς καρδίαν.  8  καὶ ἐκάλεσεν Ιεσσαι τὸν Αμιναδαβ, καὶ παρῆλθεν κατὰ πρόσωπον Σαμουηλ· καὶ εἶπεν Οὐδὲ τοῦτον ἐξελέξατο κύριος.  9  καὶ παρήγαγεν Ιεσσαι τὸν Σαμα· καὶ εἶπεν Καὶ ἐν τούτῳ οὐκ ἐξελέξατο κύριος.  10  καὶ παρήγαγεν Ιεσσαι τοὺς ἑπτὰ υἱοὺς αὐτοῦ ἐνώπιον Σαμουηλ· καὶ εἶπεν Σαμουηλ Οὐκ ἐξελέξατο κύριος ἐν τούτοις.  11  καὶ εἶπεν Σαμουηλ πρὸς Ιεσσαι Ἐκλελοίπασιν τὰ παιδάρια; καὶ εἶπεν Ἔτι ὁ μικρὸς ἰδοὺ ποιμαίνει ἐν τῷ ποιμνίῳ. καὶ εἶπεν Σαμουηλ πρὸς Ιεσσαι Ἀπόστειλον καὶ λαβὲ αὐτόν, ὅτι οὐ μὴ κατακλιθῶμεν ἕως τοῦ ἐλθεῖν αὐτόν.  12  καὶ ἀπέστειλεν καὶ εἰσήγαγεν αὐτόν· καὶ οὗτος πυρράκης μετὰ κάλλους ὀφθαλμῶν καὶ ἀγαθὸς ὁράσει κυρίῳ· καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Σαμουηλ Ἀνάστα καὶ χρῖσον τὸν Δαυιδ, ὅτι οὗτος ἀγαθός ἐστιν.  13  καὶ ἔλαβεν Σαμουηλ τὸ κέρας τοῦ ἐλαίου καὶ ἔχρισεν αὐτὸν ἐν μέσῳ τῶν ἀδελφῶν αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐφήλατο πνεῦμα κυρίου ἐπὶ Δαυιδ ἀπὸ τῆς ἡμέρας ἐκείνης καὶ ἐπάνω. καὶ ἀνέστη Σαμουηλ καὶ ἀπῆλθεν εἰς Αρμαθαιμ.  14  Καὶ πνεῦμα κυρίου ἀπέστη ἀπὸ Σαουλ, καὶ ἔπνιγεν αὐτὸν πνεῦμα πονηρὸν παρὰ κυρίου.

 

9/19/16

People almost always want to attribute the personality of a discerner/prophet as the source of their prophecies/criticisms.

But notice it is the person Samuel’s own personality that wants to justify abd approve of the 7 sons, but it is another voice outside of Samuel’s default nature that tells Samuel of God’s rejection.

Prophets don’t work out of their own personality!

It is their very definition that they have harshly died to their own sentiments and personality to submit to the much harsher voice of God!

 

Notes from Rom_8 and 1Sa_16 – Mysterious, Big-time Revealing Truth!

God’s testing and approving of a person as having “Heart Purity” does not correlate with “him who wills or runs”! – i.e. review and compare Rom_8 and 1Sa_16

One who has “good intentions” and is sincere is not the same as one who has heart purity!

 

Seven Sons” can be False Confirmation!

“Jesse caused his seven sons to pass before Samuel” – Vital Note: potential “confirmations” of circumstance are never to be treated as pagan omens in order to out-rank the clean and stern testimony of the monotheistic God.

Numbers mean something when the perfect cleanness of God wants them to, not when dirty old you want to have the blessings of the gods to confirm your choices and lifestyles of living in sin.

“Have you no more sons?”

1Sa_3:19 – non of Samuel’s words fell to the Ground [καὶ ἦν κύριος μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐκ ἔπεσεν ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν λόγων αὐτοῦ ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν]

>> integrity overrides apparent circumstances that seem to contradict what truth has said for you to do.

 

1Sa_16:13 “And Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brothers. And the Spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward.”

This shows the salvation-life of Divine “Affirmation” as in Mat_3:16-17; Mat_4:1; Mar_1:10-12, etc. - following context = "filled" preaching; >> Luk_4:13-18]

 

>> Scrip: I will choose your delusions

>> “an adulterous generation seeks a sign” when God has already shown His will

>> So what about the seven sons?? -- the dragon also has seven heads,

(and Jesus actually raised on the eighth day of the week, according to the EC….)

 

God refused David's old brothers -- this is what no one wants to believe: God testifies against people when we have absolutely no reason as to why God has rejected them!

 

At first you feel like you are hearing an impossible scandal (think about how people react to how God feels about the “grand pa everyone loves” – which happened to me!) but don't let truth be darkness and death to you, because we have come to a New Covenant of faith (Heb_12:1, etc.).

 

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Don't Look At Their Face

9/19/16

 

Jer_1:8, Eze_2:6, Isa_3:9

 

>> this is the root word for the sin of ‘respect of persons / countenances’

>> God only respects the countenance of poor people

 

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What Do You See?

Other dates; 4/25/16; 7/5/16; 12/6/16; 7/4/17

 

 

 

Num_27:12 WEB  Yahweh said to Moses, Go up into this mountain of Abarim, and see the land which I have given to the children of Israel.

Num_27:12 Joshua Appointed as Moses’ Successor And the Lord said to Moses, “Go up to the mountain that is in the country beyond the Jordan, this Mount Nebo, and behold the land of Canaan, which I shall give to the sons of Israel for a possession.

Num_27:12  Καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν Ἀνάβηθι εἰς τὸ ὄρος τὸ ἐν τῷ πέραν (τοῦτο ὄρος Ναβαυ) καὶ ἰδὲ τὴν γῆν Χανααν, ἣν ἐγὼ δίδωμι τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ ἐν κατασχέσει·

Num_27:13 WEB  When you have seen it, you also shall be gathered to your people, as Aaron your brother was gathered;

Num_27:13 And you shall see it, and you also shall be added to your people, as Aaron your brother was added,

Num_27:13  καὶ ὄψει αὐτὴν καὶ προστεθήσῃ πρὸς τὸν λαόν σου καὶ σύ, καθὰ προσετέθη Ααρων ὁ ἀδελφός σου ἐν Ωρ τῷ ὄρει,

 

 

Exo_4:2 WEB  Yahweh said to him, "What is that in your hand?" He said, "A rod."

Exo_4:2 CAB  And the Lord said to him, What is this thing that is in your hand? And he said, A rod.

Exo_4:2  εἶπεν δὲ αὐτῷ κύριος Τί τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ ἐν τῇ χειρί σου; ὁ δὲ εἶπεν Ῥάβδος.

 

 

Jer_1:11-14, etc.; Amo_7:7-8, Amo_8:1-2, Zec_4:1-7, Zec_5:1-11

 

Gen_31:1  WEB He heard the words of Laban's sons, saying, "Jacob has taken away all that was our father's. From that which was our father's, has he gotten all this wealth."

31:1  CAB And Jacob heard the words of the sons of Laban, saying, Jacob has taken all that was our father's, and of our father's property has he gotten all this glory.

31:2  Jacob saw the expression on Laban's face, and, behold, it was not toward him as before.

31:2  And Jacob saw the countenance of Laban, and behold it was not favorable toward him as before.

31:3  Yahweh said to Jacob, "Return to the land of your fathers, and to your relatives, and I will be with you."

31:3  And the Lord said to Jacob, Return to the land of your father, and to your family, and I will be with you.

 

After hearing that Joseph was alive, then Jacob heard God again:

5/22/16

>> Comp: spwar -- where Jacob’s ‘revival’ is discussed in further detail

 

Gen_46:4 KJV+  IH595 will go downH3381 withH5973 thee into Egypt;H4714 and IH595 will alsoH1571 surely bring thee upH5927 H5927 again: and JosephH3130 shall putH7896 his handH3027 uponH5921 thine eyes.H5869

Gen_46:4 LB And I will go down with you into Egypt, and I will bring you up at the end; and Joseph shall put his hands on your eyes.”

Gen_46:4  καὶ ἐγὼ καταβήσομαι μετὰ σοῦ εἰς Αἴγυπτον, καὶ ἐγὼ ἀναβιβάσω σε εἰς τέλος, καὶ Ιωσηφ ἐπιβαλεῖ τὰς χεῖρας ἐπὶ τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς σου.

 

We don’t any record of Jacob getting anything for 20 years as long as he thought Joseph was dead.

 

Amo_8:1 KJV+  ThusH3541 hath the LordH136 GODH3069 shewedH7200 unto me: and beholdH2009 a basketH3619 of summer fruit.H7019

Amo_8:1 LB The Fowler’s Basket And behold, The Lord showed me a fowler’s basket.

Amo_8:1  Οὕτως ἔδειξέν μοι κύριος καὶ ἰδοὺ ἄγγος ἰξευτοῦ.

Amo_8:2 KJV+  And he said,H559 Amos,H5986 whatH4100 seestH7200 thou?H859 And I said,H559 A basketH3619 of summer fruit.H7019 Then saidH559 the LORDH3068 untoH413 me, The endH7093 is comeH935 uponH413 my peopleH5971 of Israel;H3478 I will notH3808 againH3254 pass byH5674 them any more.H5750

Amo_8:2 And He said, “What do you see, Amos?” And I said, “A fowler’s basket. And the Lord said to me, “The end has come upon My people Israel; I will not pass by them anymore.

Amo_8:2  καὶ εἶπεν Τί σὺ βλέπεις, Αμως;  καὶ εἶπα Ἄγγος ἰξευτοῦ.  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Ἥκει τὸ πέρας ἐπὶ τὸν λαόν μου Ισραηλ, οὐκέτι μὴ προσθῶ τοῦ παρελθεῖν αὐτόν·

 

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Dynamic Words:

Son of man, what do you see? (example Jer 1)

Balaam: “Stay here and I will pray and see if God will answer”

2Ki_3:12-15 – Get a harpists

 

 

 

With Music:

1Sa_10:5

1Ch_25:3

 

The psalms/ Chronicles (example: 2Ch_29:25)

David

1Sa_16:16 – drive away demons

 

 

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The Same Spirit

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

Tit_2:11

1Co_12:4

2Co_12:18

2Co_4:13

2Co_11:4

2Co_12:18

 

Compare the example of Elijah and Elisha

 

 

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Another Jesus & Another Spirit vs. the Same Spirit

 

>> Sync w JCH!... JJPF

 

Gal_1:8-9

 

2Co_11:2-5 CAB  For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy, for I have betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.  3  But I fear, lest perhaps as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.  4  For if he who comes to you preaches another Jesus whom we did not preach, or if you receive a different spirit [comp 2Co_12:18] which you have not received, or a different gospel which you did not accept, you may well put up with him!  5  For I consider myself in nothing to have been inferior to the most super apostles.

2Co_11:2-5 iGNTtr - Grm  2  ζηλῶ For I Am Jealous As To G2206 V-PAI-1S  γὰρ You G1063 CONJ  ὑμᾶς Of God G5209 P-2AP  θεοῦ With G2316 N-GSM  ζήλῳ The Jealousy, G2205 N-DSM  ἡρμοσάμην G718 V-AMI-1S  γὰρ For I Have Espoused G1063 CONJ  ὑμᾶς For G5209 P-2AP  ἑνὶ To One G1520 A-DSM  ἀνδρὶ Man G435 N-DSM  παρθένον A Virgin G3933 N-ASF  ἁγνὴν Chaste G53 A-ASF  παραστῆσαι To Present You G3936 V-AAN  τῷ To The G3588 T-DSM  Χριστῷ· Christ. G5547 N-DSM  3  φοβοῦμαι G5399 V-PNI-1S  δὲ But I Fear G1161 CONJ  μήπως Lest By Any Means G3381 CONJ  ὡς As G5613 ADV  The G3588 T-NSM  ὄφις Serpent G3789 N-NSM  Εὕαν Eve G2096 N-ASF  ἐξηπάτησεν Deceived G1818 V-AAI-3S  ἐν In G1722 PREP  τῇ G3588 T-DSF  πανουργίᾳ G3834 N-DSF  αὐτοῦ His Craftiness, G846 P-GSM  οὕτως So G3779 ADV  φθαρῇ Should Be Corrupted G5351 V-2APS-3S  τὰ G3588 T-NPN  νοήματα G3540 N-NPN  ὑμῶν Your Thoughts G5216 P-2GP  ἀπὸ From G575 PREP  τῆς G3588 T-GSF  ἁπλότητος Simplicity G572 N-GSF  τῆς Which Is G3588 T-GSF  εἰς As To G1519 PREP  τὸν The G3588 T-ASM  Χριστόν Christ. G5547 N-ASM  4  εἰ G1487 COND  μὲν G3303 PRT  γὰρ For If Indeed G1063 CONJ  He That G3588 T-NSM  ἐρχόμενος Comes G2064 V-PNP-NSM  ἄλλον Another G243 A-ASM  Ἰησοῦν Jesus G2424 N-ASM  κηρύσσει Proclaims G2784 V-PAI-3S  ὃν Whom G3739 R-ASM  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἐκηρύξαμεν We Did Not Proclaim, G2784 V-AAI-1P  Or G2228 PRT  πνεῦμα A Spirit G4151 N-ASN  ἕτερον Different G2087 A-ASN  λαμβάνετε Ye Receive G2983 V-PAI-2P  Which G3739 R-ASN  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἐλάβετε Ye Did Not Receive, G2983 V-2AAI-2P  Or G2228 PRT  εὐαγγέλιον Glad Tidings G2098 N-ASN  ἕτερον Different G2087 A-ASN  Which G3739 R-ASN  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἐδέξασθε Ye Did Not Accept, G1209 V-ADI-2P  καλῶς Well G2573 ADV  ἠνείχεσθε Were Ye Bearing With It. G430 V-INI-2P  5  λογίζομαι I Reckon G3049 V-PNI-1S  γὰρ For G1063 CONJ  μηδὲν In Nothing To G3367 A-ASN  ὑστερηκέναι Have Been Behind G5302 V-RAN  τῶν Those G3588 T-GPM  ὑπερ G5228 PREP  λίαν In A Surpassing Degree G3029 ADV  ἀποστόλων· Apostles. G652 N-GPM

 

2Co_11:12-15 CAB  But what I am doing, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity of those who desire an opportunity, that in what they boast they may be found just as we are.  13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.  14  And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.  15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

2Co_11:12-15 iGNTtr - Grm  12  G3739 R-ASN  δὲ But What G1161 CONJ  ποιῶ I Do, G4160 V-PAI-1S  καὶ Also G2532 CONJ  ποιήσω I Will Do, G4160 V-FAI-1S  ἵνα That G2443 CONJ  ἐκκόψω I May Cut Off G1581 V-AAS-1S  τὴν The G3588 T-ASF  ἀφορμὴν Occasion G874 N-ASF  τῶν Of Those G3588 T-GPM  θελόντων Wishing G2309 V-PAP-GPM  ἀφορμήν An Occasion, G874 N-ASF  ἵνα That G2443 CONJ  ἐν G1722 PREP  Wherein G3739 R-DSN  καυχῶνται They Boast G2744 V-PNI-3P  εὑρεθῶσιν They May Be Found G2147 V-APS-3P  καθὼς According As G2531 ADV  καὶ Also G2532 CONJ  ἡμεῖς We. G2249 P-1NP  13  οἱ G3588 T-NPM  γὰρ G1063 CONJ  τοιοῦτοι For Such Are G5108 D-NPM  ψευδαπόστολοι False Apostles, G5570 N-NPM  ἐργάται Workers G2040 N-NPM  δόλιοι Deceitful, G1386 A-NPM  μετασχηματιζόμενοι Transforming Themselves G3345 V-PMP-NPM  εἰς Into G1519 PREP  ἀποστόλους Apostles G652 N-APM  Χριστοῦ Of Christ. G5547 N-GSM  14  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  οὐ Not G3756 PRT-N  θαυμαστόν· Wonderful Is It, G2298 A-NSN  αὐτὸς G846 P-NSM  γὰρ For Himself G1063 CONJ  G3588 T-NSM  Σατανᾶς Satan G4567 N-NSM  μετασχηματίζεται Transforms Himself G3345 V-PMI-3S  εἰς Into G1519 PREP  ἄγγελον An Angel G32 N-ASM  φωτός Of Light. G5457 N-GSN  15  οὐ It Is Not G3756 PRT-N  μέγα A Great Thing G3173 A-NSN  οὖν Therefore G3767 CONJ  εἰ If G1487 COND  καὶ Also G2532 CONJ  οἱ G3588 T-NPM  διάκονοι G1249 N-NPM  αὐτοῦ His Sevants G846 P-GSM  μετασχηματίζονται Transforms Themselves G3345 V-PPI-3P  ὡς As G5613 ADV  διάκονοι Servants G1249 N-NPM  δικαιοσύνης· Of Righteousness; G1343 N-GSF  ὧν Of Whom G3739 R-GPM  τὸ The G3588 T-NSN  τέλος End G5056 N-NSN  ἔσται Shall Be G2071 V-FXI-3S  κατὰ According To G2596 PREP  τὰ G3588 T-APN  ἔργα G2041 N-APN  αὐτῶν Their Works. G846 P-GPM

 

2Co_11:20 – these false apostles are arpox, and Paul is outraged that such wolves are tolerated and the truth through Paul is marginalized in preference for strong flesh

 

2Co_12:18 CAB  I urged Titus, and I sent with him the brother. Did Titus take advantage of you? Did we not walk in the same Spirit? [comp 2Co_11:4] Did we not walk in the same steps?

2Co_12:18 iGNTtr - Grm  παρεκάλεσα I Besought G3870 V-AAI-1S  Τίτον Titus, G5103 N-ASM  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  συναπέστειλα Sent With G4882 V-AAI-1S  τὸν Him The G3588 T-ASM  ἀδελφόν· G80 N-ASM  μή G3361 PRT-N  τι Brother : G5100 X-ASN  ἐπλεονέκτησεν Did Overreach G4122 V-AAI-3S  ὑμᾶς You G5209 P-2AP  Τίτος Titus? G5103 N-NSM  οὐ Not G3756 PRT-N  τῷ By The G3588 T-DSN  αὐτῷ Same G846 P-DSN  πνεύματι Spirit G4151 N-DSN  περιεπατήσαμεν Walked We? G4043 V-AAI-1P  οὐ Not G3756 PRT-N  τοῖς In The G3588 T-DPN  αὐτοῖς Same G846 P-DPN  ἴχνεσιν Steps? G2487 N-DPN

 

2Co_12:20-21 CAB  For I am afraid, lest perhaps when I come, I will not find you as I desire, and that I will be found by you as you do not desire; [i.e. a different spirit (2Co_11:4)] lest perhaps there be contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, disputes, slanders, gossipings, pride, disorders;  21  lest, when I come again, my God will humble me before you, and I will mourn for many who have previously sinned and have not repented for the impurity and fornication and lewdness which they practiced.

2Co_12:20-21 iGNTtr - Grm  20  φοβοῦμαι G5399 V-PNI-1S  γὰρ For I Fear, G1063 CONJ  μήπως Lest Perhaps G3381 CONJ  ἐλθὼν Having Come G2064 V-2AAP-NSM  οὐχ Not G3756 PRT-N  οἵους Such As G3634 K-APN  θέλω I Wish G2309 V-PAI-1S  εὕρω I Should Find G2147 V-2AAS-1S  ὑμᾶς You, G5209 P-2AP  κἀγὼ And I G2504 P-1NS-C  εὑρεθῶ Be Found G2147 V-APS-1S  ὑμῖν By You G5213 P-2DP  οἷον Such As G3634 K-ASM  οὐ G3756 PRT-N  θέλετε· Ye Do Not Wish : G2309 V-PAI-2P  μήπως Lest Perhaps  There Be  G3381 CONJ  ἔρεις Strifes, G2054 N-NPF  ζῆλοι, Jealousies, G2205 N-NPM  θυμοί Indignations, G2372 N-NPM  ἐριθείαι Contentions, G2052 N-NPF  καταλαλιαί Evil Speakings, G2636 N-NPF  ψιθυρισμοί Wisperings, G5587 N-NPM  φυσιώσεις Puffings Up, G5450 N-NPF  ἀκαταστασίαι· Commotions; G181 N-NPF  21  μὴ Lest G3361 PRT-N  πάλιν Again G3825 ADV  ἐλθόντα Having Come G2064 V-2AAP-ASM  με Me G3165 P-1AS  ταπεινώσῃ Should Humble G5013 V-AAS-3S  G3588 T-NSM  θεός God G2316 N-NSM  μου My G3450 P-1GS  πρὸς As To G4314 PREP  ὑμᾶς You, G5209 P-2AP  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  πενθήσω I Should Mourn Over G3996 V-FAI-1S  πολλοὺς Many G4183 A-APM  τῶν Of Those Who G3588 T-GPM  προημαρτηκότων Have Before Sinned, G4258 V-RAP-GPM  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  μὴ G3361 PRT-N  μετανοησάντων Have Not Repented G3340 V-AAP-GPM  ἐπὶ Upon G1909 PREP  τῇ The G3588 T-DSF  ἀκαθαρσίᾳ Uncleanness G167 N-DSF  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  πορνείᾳ Fornication G4202 N-DSF  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  ἀσελγείᾳ Licentiousness G766 N-DSF  Which G3739 R-DSF  ἔπραξαν They Practised. G4238 V-AAI-3P

 

 

“For there will arise false christs,

and false prophets, and they will

show great signs and wonders, so

as to lead astray, if possible, even

the chosen ones.”—Jesus (Mat_24:24)

 

 

 

 

Malachi 3 – Return & Discern / Perceive

The Prophet’s Prophecy of Promised Perception

 

Preceding Context

Mal_3:16-17 WEB  Then those who feared Yahweh spoke one with another; and Yahweh listened, and heard, and a book of memory was written before him, for those who feared Yahweh, and who honored his name.  17  They shall be mine," says Yahweh of Armies, "my own possession in the day that I make, and I will spare them, as a man spares his own son who serves him.

Mal_3:16-17 CAB  Thus they spoke, those that feared the Lord, everyone to his neighbor: and the Lord gave heed, and listened, and He wrote a book of remembrance before him for them that feared the Lord and reverenced His name.  17  And they shall be Mine, says the Lord Almighty, in the day which I appoint for a peculiar possession; and I will make choice of them, as a man makes choice of his son that serves him.

Note: this should be synced with “Getting Synchronized”/ “Community bbs”

 

Main Verse

Mal_3:18 WEB  Then you shall return [ἐπιστραφήσεσθε] and discern H7200 / G3708 [ὄψεσθε – percieve] between [ἀνὰ μέσον] the righteous and the wicked [ἀνόμου – lawless], between him who serves God and him who doesn't serve him.

 

Enormous Revelations into Discernment from Malachi 3

·        People always mean something in the spiritual realm

·        Fearing God or not fearing God makes you light or darkness

·        God gets emotional about the people you talk to, and how much you entrust yourself to them.

·        If you talk to (and approve of) the wrong people, God will not listen to you, and will snuff out the memory of your life.  But if you get around the right people and talk with them, God will save you, and write you down in His book.

·        Basic Gospel: get around the right people; get around the right God. This is your salvation.

·        God chooses people who fear God by communing with others who fear God

·        God works out unthinkably amazing things in heaven when reverent people assemble His Divine fragrance* on earth
 [* i.e. 2Co_2:15]

·        God’s promise of saving reverent people is clearly done by making them discern other people, and know who is saved and who is not – this is not a matter of “if” you can or can’t know that. God promises that you WILL know (as said in Mat_7)

 

 

Php 1 – Pray to Overflow in Knowledge and All Perception

Perception is in the Basic Prayer!

 

Php_1:9-11 WEB  This I pray, that your love may abound [περισσεύῃ] yet more and more in knowledge [ἐπιγνώσει – knowing-upon-ness] and all discernment [αἰσθήσειG144perception]10  *so that [* εἰς τὸ – into that (of)] you may approve [δοκιμάζεινG1381 – receive by testing (fig. what you “think” is right)] ·the things [or people – τὰ] that are excellent [διαφέρονταG1308 V-PAP-APN – lit. carried through; fig. surpassing value*]; that you may be sincere [εἰλικρινεῖς – sun-judged / judged (legitimate) by sun (light)] and without offense [ἀπρόσκοποι] to [εἰς] the day of Christ;  11  being filled [πεπληρωμένοι – ‘crammed full’] with the fruits of righteousness, *which are through [τὸν διὰ] Jesus Christ, to [εἰς] the glory and praise of God.

Php_1:9-11 Greek  καὶ τοῦτο προσεύχομαι, ἵνα ἡ ἀγάπη ὑμῶν ἔτι μᾶλλον καὶ μᾶλλον περισσεύῃ ἐν ἐπιγνώσει καὶ πάσῃ αἰσθήσει,  10  εἰς τὸ δοκιμάζειν ὑμᾶς τὰ διαφέροντα, ἵνα ἦτε εἰλικρινεῖς καὶ ἀπρόσκοποι εἰς ἡμέραν Χριστοῦ,  11  πεπληρωμένοι καρπὸν δικαιοσύνης τὸν διὰ ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ εἰς δόξαν καὶ ἔπαινον Θεοῦ.

 

[* carried through, as in, Mat_6:26; Mat_10:31; Luk_12:7; Mat_12:12; Luk_12:24; Gal_4:2 (a boy is not carried beyond a servant until grown); Also Rom_2:18 (if done in a sinful sense)]

 

Your approval of things and people directly affects God’s approval of you (as already seen in Malachi and repeated here)

Paul prayed for them to have perception/discernment; Don’t you Want God to answer it for you?

 

Heb 5 – Exercised Discernment

Heb_5:11-14 WEB  About [Περὶ – around/ “concerning”] him we have many words *to say [πολὺς ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος – to us, the word is much (see v. 12-13; Heb_7:28; Heb_4:12)], and hard to interpret [Heb_7:2] [* λέγειν – (in) speaking], seeing [ἐπεὶ – upon (that)] you have become dull [νωθροὶ – or sluggish (>> see notes in Printed Bible)] of hearing [ταῖς ἀκοαῖς].  12  For when [καὶ – also] *by reason of [* διὰ – through] the time [χρόνον] you ought to be teachers, you again *[have] need [* χρείαν ἔχετε] to have someone teach you the rudiments [στοιχεῖα] of the *first principles [* ἀρχῆς – beginning] of *the oracles [* τῶν λογίων – the words (see v. 11)] of God. You have come [γεγόνατε – begun] to *[have] need [of] [* χρείαν ἔχοντες] milk, and not solid [στερεᾶς] food.  13  For everyone who *lives on [* μετέχωνG3348 – lit. holds with; fig. takes part in] milk is not experienced [ἄπειροςG552 (Heb_11:29)] in *the word of righteousness [* λόγου δικαιοσύνης – a righteousness word/ a word of righteousness], for he is a baby [νήπιος].  14  But solid food is for those who are *full grown [τελείων – lit. perfect/ complete (>> see notes in Printed Bible)], who *by reason of use [τῶν διὰ τὴν ἕξινG1838 – the ones through the (held) habit (ἕξιν (G1838) is from ἔχω (G2192))] have [ἐχόντωνG2192] their senses [τὰ αἰσθητήρια] exercised [γεγυμνασμένα] to [πρὸς – toward] discern [διάκρισιν (1Co_12:10)] good [καλοῦ] and evil [κακοῦG2556 (perhaps the most basic word for “bad” in Greek)].

 

1Co 12 – The Spiritual (Gift) of Discernment

1Co_12:1, 1Co_12:10 WEB  Now [δὲ] concerning [Περὶ] *spirituals gifts [* πνευματικῶν], brothers, I don’t want [θέλω] you to be ignorant [ἀγνοεῖν]10  …to another workings of miracles [ἐνεργήματα δυνάμεων – energizing of power (works)]; and to another prophecy; and to another discerningG1253 [διακρίσεις – lit. judging through; fig. thoroughly distinguishing] of spirits; to another *different kinds of languages [γένη γλωσσῶν]; and to another the interpretation [ἑρμηνεία] of languages.

 

1Co 2 – Demonstrate The Right Spirit, with Power

1Co_2:3-5 CAB And I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.  4  And my message [ὁ λόγος μου – that of my Word] and my preaching [κήρυγμά] were not *with [in] persuasive [ἐν πειθοῖς] words of human wisdom, but in [ἐν] *demonstration of the Spirit and of power [* ἀποδείξει Πνεύματος καὶ δυνάμεως – “demonstration” = ἀποδείξειG585 N-DSF - from: ἀποδείκνυμιG584 Verb (G575 + G1166) (Act_25:7; 1Co_4:9; Act_2:22 vs. 2Th_2:4)],  5  in order that your faith might not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

 

What about Power and Approval?

Approved: Mat_12:28/ Luk_11:20; Joh_5:36; (Joh_9:33); Joh_10:37; Joh_14:10-11; Act_2:22; Act_10:36-38; Heb_2:4 [also Mat_11:2-6; Luk_7:20-23, Luk_24:18-19; Joh_3:2, Joh_6:14, * Joh_6:27-28 *; Joh_7:31, (Joh_11:47-48); Joh_12:17, Joh_15:24; (Act_14:27); Joh_11:40-42]

Power: 1Co_4:20; Joh_16:8-15; Rom_1:16 (by extension can include proclaiming unto salvation); Rom_14:17; Rom_15:19; 1Th_1:5

Anti-Christ: See Daniel; 2Th_2:7-12; Exo_7:22, Exo_8:7, Exo_8:18; Deu_13:1, Deu_13:2; Mat_24:24; Mar_13:22; 2Ti_3:8; Rev_13:11-15; Rev_18:23, Rev_19:20

(Side thought: Don’t forget that prophecy is a higher gifting than miracles; John Baptist did no miracles, and was the greatest. Despite all this, it looks like Paul’s main point is miracles.)

Conclusion: Discernment is absolutely necessary

 

2Ti 2 – A Solid, Firm Foundation Proclaims God’s Testimony

2Ti_2:19 CAB Nevertheless the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those that are His," and, "Let everyone naming the name of the Lord depart from unrighteousness."

 

Think: what is the purpose of a “seal”? Why does it need an inscription? – This is very spiritual. Do you have ears to hear?

 

2Ti 2 - Discernment seal

The gifted discerner will read it

The excercised discerner will head it.

- if you perge yourself, then the seal will testify in your favor!

 

The Spirit Pours Forth WordsHear God’s Testimony!

 

Hos_12:10 WEB  I have also spoken to the prophets, and I have multiplied visions; and by the ministry of the prophets I have used parables.

Hos_12:10 CAB  And I will speak to the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and by the means of the prophets I was represented.

Hos_12:10  (12:11) καὶ λαλήσω πρὸς προφήτας, καὶ ἐγὼ ὁράσεις ἐπλήθυνα καὶ ἐν χερσὶν προφητῶν ὡμοιώθην.

 

Sir_4:26  Do not be ashamed to acknowledge your guilt,17 [17 [Sir4:26] LXX, Syr / Heb(A) “to draw back from guilt”]

and do not struggle against the rushing stream.

 

1Ti_4:1 (etc) – The Spirit pours forth Words...

1Ti_4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says, that in latter times some shall fall away from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

1Ti_4:1  Τὸ δὲ Πνεῦμα ῥητῶς λέγει ὅτι ἐν ὑστέροις καιροῖς ἀποστήσονταί τινες τῆς πίστεως προσέχοντες πνεύμασι πλάνοις καὶ διδασκαλίαις δαιμονίων,

 

Heb_2:4 - God testifying by the supernatural

 

Like Fire

Jer_23:29 – REAL Prophecy is like Fire and “Axe” (LXX)/ “hammer” (MT) (Jer_23:25 etc.)

Jer_20:9 – Fire in bones (see: Jer_20:7-12, Jer_20:18 etc.; also Jer_6:11; Eze_3:14 (ἐν ὁρμῇ τοῦ πνεύματός μου); Act_17:16, Act_18:5; 1Co_9:16, 1Co_9:17)

Psa_39:3 – A fiery truth meditation condemning this age (see whole chapter for context)

 

Other Important Scripture about Discernment

Joh_5:36-38 (etc.)

1Ti_3 - end of chapter mystery

 

Also see these Verses

2Sa_19:35 – Humility

Num_11: 29
Num_12:2
Num_12:6-8
2Ti_2:25

Job_37:16 – “Perfect Discernment” (An LXX Particular)

 

The Cost and Urgent Warning of Discernment

The real Jesus, the spiritual One that reveals truth in prayer, and always agrees with the perfect Scriptures, testifies against people with a fiery and spiritual fervency, when you think are innocent and accepted by Him. At every moment you are morally responsible for agreeing with God, 100% of the time. When you disagree with God's sentence and passionate condemnation of a person, you become guilty of active sin as a rebel by lying against God.

    Do not fill up your evil heart with venom and condemnation to make yourself offensive to God. Why should you disagreed with the love and goodness of God, and lose your soul for the sake of earthly affection for vanity and evil?

>> (Jer_27-28; BLEP)

4/24/11

 

The challenge of all humanity has always been to take things we understand by faith, and actually apply them as the dominating and governing law of our entire lives.

4/24/11

 

Beware of making a covenant with death because God will make it null and void.

 

What Does it Mean to Hear God's Voice?

 

No Image

We cannot give a picture, simply because if we even could, it would go toward idolatry

 

- It is not about what pitch is it, or

- What feeling is it (since this is the soul)

 

God Speaks in Many Ways

 

Heb_1:1 - God has talked in many ways

Job_33:14-15 - So many ways, we don't get it

> Num_12:6-8

Gen_18:1-3 - as three men

Exo_3:2-4 - in a burning bush

Jer 32 – And I knew it was the word of the Lord

 

Different ways To Hear God for and in Preaching

1Co_14:6

1Co_14:19

 

But it is about Being Right, Not Colorful

- Discernment is the answer

- Prioritize truth (Bible) first, then you will be solid:

People say, “But I just want to focus on my RELATIONSHIP not all that doctrine stuff.”

 

- Hearing God’s voice is not about recognizing a certain tone or pitch or “fluttering feeling” in your heart

- So what is the answer? –

- Hearing God’s voice is about knowing what truth is, knowing what is right, and being immovably solidified in it.

- Knowing truth first enables you to enter the arena of the spiritual realm without being eaten alive. (Hearing God’s voice also means dealing with the devil’s counterfeits).

 

- Get truth; Get discernment; Get Spiritual; Hear God’s voice

 

Testing Your Hearing Before Speaking!

 

Jer_23 – Everyone’s Word is His Burden

(1) Main Passage: Jer_23:16-40

(2) Compare preceding context!: Jer_23:1-15

(3) v. Jer_23:29 – Isn’t it like fire???

 

Jer CH 27-28

 

Jer 32 – And I knew it was the word of the Lord

Jer_32:6-8 CAB  And the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,  7  Behold, Hanamel the son of Shallom your father's brother is coming to you, saying, Buy my field that is in Anathoth: for you have the right of redemption, to buy it.  8  So Hanamel the son of Shallom my father's brother came to me into the court of the prison, and said, Buy my field that is in the land of Benjamin, in Anathoth: for you have a right to buy it, and you are the elder. So [κα] I knew that it was the word of the Lord.

 

Submission to the Bible

 

1Co_4:6 CAB  Now these things, brothers, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, in order that you may learn in us not to think [φρονεῖν] beyond [ὑπὲρ] what is written, that none of you *may be puffed up [ες ὑπὲρ] on behalf of one against the other.

 

 

Serious Discernment Exhortations

 

An Early Exhortation

This might be one of the earliest

> Originally an RTF file entitled, “deiscernment-” and then re-titled, “How we judge salvation.rtf”

 

How do I love people with discernment?

Only in Truth do you have real love to love with.

All our love comes from God and we are dependent on his flow. For this reason we need to LOVE truth to LOVE people.

 

1. People commonly judge salvation as a matter of one's heart and sincerity.  No wonder we say “you can't judge if someone is saved” because we think everyone is sincere!  Who could judge the sincerity of someone's heart?  -No one. That’s why we think we cannot judge salvation: we are always looking at sincerity instead of truth.

            The Bible says, "It is not therefore of him who desires, or of him exerts effort, but on GOD who shows mercy" but instead of judging this way, we got it all wrong!  We have got our entire perception messed up by not judging according to what God has set as the standard! 

 

My Discernment Progression

I used to gauge salvation as a matter of preferential choice: I say that I believe in the Bible and that Jesus Christ is my savior, therefore I'm a christian. When I found out that people were often fake and not really sincere, then I stated gagging a person’s salvation based on their creed, but this also fell through. Then I gauged the validity of one's salvation based on their sincerity, because “all the real Christians were sincere,” right? But even this has problems because there are a lot of sincere people going to hell, (Rom_10).

    Muslims are sincerely wrong when they don't believe in Jesus as the one way to haven, and the Jews in Rom_10 did not go to hell for lack of zeal!

Still others gage salvation based upon God's power in one's life and this also proves faulty because the Bible warns of false signs and we should not be so foolish to say that we operate in any significant level of discernment to tell the difference between real miracles and fake. In this age, discernment is as extinct from the church as Wooly Mammoths are from the earth. It almost does not exist! 

 

We often confuse wisdom and experience for discernment.  All of these are good, but the last is a rarity.

    Even if it was God in someone's life, they can still be told "I never do you."  Judas Iscariot worked miracles, healed people, preached the gospel, and was at the same time "the son of prediction," and stole money out of the money bag.

            In light of the fact that all of these gauges do not work, it is no wonder why people say, "you can't judge whether or not someone is saved.  Only God knows that!"  We are so messed up in this area!  Even when we say 'you should not judge,' we end up in hypocrisy because we still resort to these measures even though we say without mouths, 'don't judge'.

    How many of us can say we haven't unofficially used one of these gagging tactics recently? -not that many, if any.

"Preacher Bob is such a man of God!" -you just judged him, whether you did it in his favorite or against him.  You judged that he was a good Christian and man of God, based on his sincerity and preaching.

    But the ultimate and biblical gauge is not our Creed, (what we say we believe), or our choice of affiliation, (I like the gators; I am a Republican; and I like the president, and I am a Christian), or our sincerity, or even the presence of miraculous abilities, (weather True or fake).  In reality, the state of our salvation is not based on the quality of our efforts toward God, but whether or not GOD responds to our efforts with salvation.  we pretend that we believe that God is the only one who saves apart from anything good we do, (), but it's almost completely a little religious “theological Barbie doll game”.

 

We don't really believe it because we constantly resort to those inaccurate gauges to decide whether or not we think a person is a Christian.  If you are honest you can probably admit that these faulty gauges are often at work within your own mind and heart.  God's mercy showing itself in a person's life is the only real key in judging salvation, for yourself or others. Human generated efforts ultimately do not count when it comes to discernment.

            In one light we may not be as much at fault because it takes spiritual gifting in an absolute sense to detect favor in a person's life.  *but here's the point of the majority of all of this: just as 'we should not despise prophecy,' (__), or forbid speaking in tongues, so we should not despise truth revealed by discernment or forbid it from being spoken as we do.

 

The two biggest objections to the practice of discernment are 1. that it is unloving and 2. that it is judgmental.

 

Because God is inherently transcendent over his entire creation, the closer one approaches the deepest essence of God the more impossible to understand and grasp. If the basic qualities of God are hard to grasp (such as, 'who created God?') then we should not be so foolish to think that we can easily grasp his essence ("Love").  What I mean is this: God's most important all consuming quality is LOVE. It is the most complex, least understood and most counterfeited virtue He has.  We often error on the definition of Love and misapply the whole concept. So if we speak against discernment or harshness on the basis of saying, "it's not Loving” our synopsis often really means, "It’s not nice" or "polite."  This objection is completely insufficient to say that a person is unloving.  In this case you would have to accuse JESUS and many other men of God in the Bible of the same thing.

     It says,

 

1Joh_2:5 NKJV "But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him." 

 

This Love that God wants to perfect in us does not necessitate politeness in every situation to every person as we assume out of our human definitions of Love. Hint: We had this definition of Love as always being nice before we were saved. Why then do we seek to carry the same definition we had of God's most complex feature and try to apply it to the reality of salvation expecting it to work?  His Love does not conform to the pattern, or definition that the world has.  If you want the real stuff, it often calls for offensiveness.

     JESUS loved people even when he called them "snakes" and "brood of vipers!" and they probably felt a little judged to say the least, and I can just imagine one of them walking away explaining how they felt so loved and affirmed by JESUS!  So why do we so often wrongly question the love of a zealous proclaimer of God's truth?  Preaching hell fire and brimstone is biblical. JESUS did it () and we are supposed to follow his example (1Jo_2:6).

     I’m tired of people being able to be polite and unable to Love others in Truth.  So your un-offensive, and say things that people want to hear.  But you are surly shown unloving because you oppose the Truth, and no Love exists outside of the Truth.

     Furthermore concerning this offensiveness that the proclamation of Truth brings... What does the Scripture say?

 

2Co_2:15-16 ALT  for we are a sweet fragrance of Christ to God among the ones being saved and among the ones perishing;  16  to some a fragrance of death to death, but to others, a fragrance of life to life...

 

We don't become the aroma of death by telling someone, "Jesus loves you!" We become an offensive aroma of death by preaching the offensive Truth as Stephen Did.

 

Act_7:51-54 KJV Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

 

-They then covered their ears and stoned him.

 

  We have got to realize that this is not an option! Woe to me if I am not offensive to people! Because that means I am holding back the Truth, a life that is not worth living.  Do you still not believe?  Should I rather put it just like Jesus did by using His words:

 

Luk_6:26 KJV Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! For so did their fathers to the false prophets.

 

and He says earlier,

 

Luk_6:22-23 KJV Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.  23  Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

 

-Woe to you if you are never offensive to the hypocrites who are perishing.

 

This is the question when it comes to Loving people in your ministry: would you rather base your ministry off of cheap, nappy, cheesy, human generated love, or would you rather cleave to Truth in the deep part of you and not let go so as to have God's love flow through you. Do not give deadly hateful counterfeits to people!  Just try to love your son without spanking him and you will be hating him, (as Proverbs says). Just try loving people without cleaving to the truth, and you will be pouring out a poisonous venom to their destruction. By telling them that they are saved you will not be loving them if it is not true, but you will be digging their greave, because your 'love' is a lie!  Will someone please have enough love and guts to warn people of their true condition?  Or will we let people sit in their counterfeit and let them be condemned with the rest of the world?

 

You want to Love people? Then this is the only way:

1Pe_1:22

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My friend Leah said of this verse, "We have to purify our selves, then we can gain access to God's heart, and love each other threw him."

So without Loving the Truth you practically loose all access to God's Love for others.

 

Think: 'we need to save ourselves and our hearers'

Paul was innocent of every man's blood because he told every man the truth.

 

Predestination, Mis-Discerning, and Philosophies

Probably originally written a little later around 2002-2003

This is probably another “Early Exhortation,” but by this time I was particularly being revolutionized by the truth of Biblical Predestination!

 

Discernment and Predestination-

The act of judging salvation requires an appreciation for predestination.  But if you don’t first believe in predestination, then you have a slew of other un-Biblical problems which take a whole Bible Study to cover!  (I do have one available upon request, JosiahsScott@MSN.com).

            Because our Church society is so negligent on the doctrine of predestination, we also lack in an understanding of discerning and judging salvation.  In this church culture we generally reject the idea of predestination, along with many other Biblical teachings like ‘hell fire and brim stone’ which Jesus preached (Mat_5:22, Mat_7:19, Mat_13:40-42, Mat_18:8-9; Luk_17:29-30; Jon_15:6 – just to name a few). But this was not always so.  

            Many people that have gone before us that we, (as christians) say we respect clearly endorsed predestination.  John Wesley, John Gill (theological writer), Albert Barnes (theological writer), and Myer Pearlman (who helped start the Assemblies of God), all clearly endorsed and taught predestination.  It seems that due to today’s lack of Love for the Bible and Truth, and the resulting un-education about them, people have a general contempt for the doctrine of predestination.  The result of this weakness is an inherent blockage against most of the fundamental truths by which discernment works.

            To ever discern rightly, one has to gage on a scale of “rightness with God,” while forsaking the scale of someone’s character, sincerity, and personal efforts.  Because we don’t fully like or except predestination, the truths by which discernment operate are always stumbling blocks for us.  If someone says, “I don’t think that person is on.  I don’t think we should trust them,” then we so wrongly assume that they mean that the person has a bad heart, when this is not the case at all!  “They confess Jesus as Lord,” we protest, “…Don’t judge his sincerity with God!

            According to the Bible, predestination clearly has nothing to do with an individual’s will.  By God’s choice, a person is called (in to salvation), and then elected (marked out before hand as one who makes it to Heaven).  So weather one is saved or predestined, God is the initiator of both apart from his or her choice.  Jesus said of His disciples, (including Judas Iscariot), “You did not choose me, but I chose you” (Jon_15:16-19).  Judas was chosen for salvation, but he was predestined to hell before he was born, as “the Son of perdition” (Jon_17:12).  This is the same Gospel, with the same 12 disciples.  This can’t be over-emphasized because before both of these statements Jesus said:

 

Joh_6:70 WEB"Didn't I choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?"

 

Disclaimer: Just so I’m abundantly clear!

If I was against the doctrine of “Free Will” I would be guilty of perverting the Bible.

I am fully for this doctrine as well.  Though they seem to contradict each other they do not at all.  Practically speaking anyone at any time can choose to believe in Jesus and be saved.  For all clarity, I whole heartedly agree with an extreme view of free will.  Because most are already familiar with it though, I won’t take the time to spell it out, but I will give scriptures that clearly show that everyone has a choice to make whether or not they are saved:

Mat_18:14, 2Pet_3:8, Rom_10:13, 1Ti_2:3, Rev_22:17

If you still don’t understand how I say that I believe both, then that is to be expected.  This however is not a document about this issue, but of discernment.

            We simply don’t get it, no matter how much we say otherwise.  We don’t really believe one’s salvation all lies on God’s mercy, and not the will and effort of humans.  “I didn’t do anything to deserve salvation but it was all by his grace when I could do nothing…” –Do we actually believe that?  Not practically.  Because if we did, (I mean fully!) then we would be embracing predestination head on.  But truly we think that we were saved by our choice, instead of realizing that our choice is the instrument by which God sovereignly determines to save us by.  By this I mean that God causes us to choose to believe. Isn’t this clearly absolutely Biblical??

 

Phi_2:13  For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

 

Many aspects of discernment are understood much better and complete in light of predestination, in which the determinations of the rightness of various people are not dependent on each individual, but on Jesus.

            We would all admit that religious people are very often sincerely wrong, especially in light of having people like zealous well meaning Muslims in our lives.  When we have case and point examples of their fervency for what is right, we cannot rightly say that they are off due to lack of sincerity.  Bu for some un-Biblical diluted reason when it comes to church people, we think that because they have the technically correct outward type of religious practice, that these same people are right with God and their sincerity could never be in vain.  This is a very wrong double standard. The same person in one religion or the other with the same amount of sincerity will be just as off without God coming through with His grace.  The technicality of the outward practice does not correct the disconnection of an individual.  People say, “If he were saved he would rely make an impact for God!” –What an incorrect statement.  In this we wrongly put value on the sincerity of the person instead of on God’s Grace showing up in someone’s life.

            The technicality of believing in the correct God does not make the same zealous person from being unsaved to saved, but God’s divine calling does.  We have got to realize that there are many people who are just as sincerely wrong in the church as a person in the Muslim religion.

 

Because of this we’re so quick to say that one is saved, and we’re so quick to justify the unjustified.   We are nearsighted priests who declare the leper clean when he is stark white.

    We do this because we’re looking for right motives and not a true connection with Jesus.  Once we gauge pure motives in our judgment, we project a connection with Jesus by telling them that they are in Christ.  The proof that this is all so off, is made clear in light of statistics.  One out of 10 converts actually sticks with it.  This means that practically one out of 10 of our converts are never actually even saved.  The rest fall away, because they were never there to begin with.

If we would stop gauging people based on their sincerity, then we would not have so many people that think because they went down to an altar call, that they tried Jesus.  If we would stop gauging leprosy based on how high someone can jump, then we would stop misleading people into a false since of security.

    So if we are honest we can see that our gauge has produced lots of false converts, but even still after this we continue to be uncomfortable if one of us says that someone is not saved despite their sincerity.  We refuse to get rid of this inaccurate measuring stick that has never worked from the beginning. This is because in our minds this is the only thing we can tie down that seems to be different between church go-ers and devoted believers.

    Our tactics may tell us how devoted someone is, but if you care to discern, then you will have to through it out the window.  Discerning someone’s spiritual state is independent of how sincere they are.

 

Mis-Discerning Hurts

The problem with mis-discerning is that it hurts you and them and disrespects God.

1. It hurts them because they ‘believe a lie,’ (2Th 2).  Whatever lie someone allows in is a stronghold of destruction for them.

2. They do not learn who Jesus is.  They associate JESUS, as being the experience at the altar. And if their experience was fake, incomplete, or nonexistent, then that is what they associate as Jesus.

 

When someone is not truly saved, and we assure them that they are, it is reminiscent of ‘sacrificing the commands of God for the traditions of men’

 

Jon_2:8 Brenton  (2:9) They that observe vanities and lies have forsaken their own mercy.

 

What does this tell us, for ourselves or others, about being connected or disconnected with Jesus?

 

More

According to the Bible, we can know if someone is predestined or not.  It says, ‘not that I’ve yet obtained it’ ( ).  I am not claiming that I have obtained this ability, but I am simply declaring what is available according to the Bible.

------“election”/ “chosen before the foundation of the world”/ “you he has predestined”

If we are able to do this much then we are certainly able to know whether or not someone is saved.

            Here are some Bible verses that make things clear on predestination, and what we can do…

 

Rom_16:13  Salute Rufus chosen1588 in the Lord… [same word as “elect”].

Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

From G1586; select; by implication favorite: - chosen, elect.

 

Paul confirmed that this guy was predestined AKA, “Elect.” Is “Election” clearly “predestination?” Yes, you have to put the puzzle pieces together though:

See Rom_8:28-30, & 33.

Because they are predestined/elected, then no one can bring any charge anything against them.

 

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The Holy Spirit knows the end times like we can know discernment.

 

-Let Truth entice you.  It may be hard to accept, but if you have loved the truth then you know that it is what is right.

 

Philosophies

How foolish of you o man to think it such a high price to pay to sacrifice your philosophy for the Truth!  You truly treasure your own life and feelings more than Jesus.

 

Philosophies are cool to have but you should always base philosophy on theology and never base theology on conviction, but on the Bible.

Problem-

We have pre-scriptural philosophies, (AKA “assumptions”), that block truth from getting into our soles because we so foolishly cherish our philosophies.  We disrespect the Bible by giving it second place for their sake.

 

Discernment – Biblical Proofs and Biblical Exposition

Originally written somewhere around 2000-2004

This is linked in some way to the one called “Primary Exhortation”

[Is this one of the earlier ones? The Biblical proof probably came after other general ones I had already written? This may be after the lost one called “a statement of faith”]

 

Why do you so doubt the heavenly position God gives us?  It is clear that people who are saved are “new creations” and the devil can see the difference because it is spiritual. If someone is indwelled with the Holy Spirit, they imitate Him. Do you think the devil is blind? It says that the evil one can’t touch us. Don’t you think he would notice if every time he tried to touch us that his hand was deflected?  So if you will admit this much then why do you think that the devil has more access to knowledge than we do? The Bible says, ‘We know all things’ -doesn’t that at least include more than the devil? If we are God’s friends, will he turn around and give our enemy more insight than us? And doesn’t the devil know whether or not people are saved? The demon said of Paul, “Paul I know…” ()  Why do you think that he is called “the accuser of the brethren” (Rev).  We see the example of this when he accuses Job before God ().  The devil is not “the accuser of the world” otherwise the verse that says he accuses the brothers would lose all significance.  Jesus said that Things from God would accuse the world.  So the question comes, if satan accuses the brothers, then how can he accuse them unless he knows who they are?!!  Are you God’s friend? Then why do you think that God would rather tell our enemy secrets and restrict them from us?  What Bible verse are you using to justify that one? ‘The keys of the kingdom have been given to us’ –Especially speaking to us who are given leadership.

 

Judging (Right and wrong)

 

Act_1:24 WEB  They prayed, and said, "You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two you have chosen

 

Patrick Wrote

4)"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."  Jn. 13:20

 

=>The scary part of this verse is that the converse of this verse can be true as well.  You see, if you accept someone who is sent by satan, do you not accept satan, also?  This is why it is so important to value discernment and use it when it comes to choosing whom you will fellowship with.  (You already know this.)

 

2Co 2

The Spirit of God shows us things that are otherwise impossible to know... Yes the DEEP things of God, even those that eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor that has entered into the heart of man.

 

And since He reveals these things, “but He has revealed them by His Spirit” why like fake counterfeiters of humility do we say, “only God can know that…”  These claims of discernment cannot be accepted by the natural mind, “because they are spiritually discerned”

The spiritual man judges all things be he himself is held to no mans judgment

Discernment is the mystery that is herein proclaimed.  This is a stumbling block to man’s wisdom which says, “Only God can know if someone is saved”

 

Primary Exhortation

Originally written somewhere around 2000-2004

This is linked in some way to the one called “Discernment – Biblical Proofs and Biblical Exposition”

> I had re-titled this section, “Discernment- Experiential Teaching.doc” but that is probably insufficient

 

Many people are skeptical about the claims of discernment because it sounds like an exaltation of one’s own judgment which is unfounded and unreasonable. The error in this understanding is the idea that discernment is an internal thing.  If it was an enhancing of one’s judgment it would be shaky because people’s judgments vary in their accuracy from time to time. No matter how wise and experienced someone is, they can still be off because people are humans and inherently subject to error from time to time, especially in their judgments. This would be illustrated by someone trying to assess someone else’s character.  Eventually you will run in to one of those cases where the assessor will say, “Well I guess I was wrong about him!  He was not as honest as I thought.” An essential principal of discernment (meaning as a gift of discernment) is that this is not the way discernment works!  If someone tries to approach discernment this way they’ll never operate in it.  That would be like blowing up balloons with your mouth expecting them to eventually carry you away if you hold on to them. They would need to hear, “You got the completely wrong idea! It doesn’t work that way!” In the same way they would be messed up from the get go. 

            The working of the gift of discernment is a totally externally completed and finished operation the accuracy of which is not determined by the receiver.  God’s proclamations about people are not dependent on the humans who hear them.  When you try to imagine a human distortion and interference between God and his people within the vessel who hears Him, then you are not talking about discernment but something else, because discernment does not work that way.

            This is not to say that discernment is for perfect people.  The issue is hearing or not hearing.  A discerner does not always hear.  But when he does, unless he’s lying, accuracy is not the issue.  If a person varies from accuracy to inaccuracy, then we can be certain that they are not operating either time in the gift of discernment.  May be they have wisdom to judge to a degree but discernment does not work the same at all.  Discernment is a light switch that is either on or off.  Either way it is obvious!  The best discerners are the ones that have no ability to turn it off.  This shows faithfulness with the gift, because the only way it gets off is with a lessening of faith and grace. The Bible says,

“God’s solid foundation stands firm sealed with this inscription: ‘God knows those who are His’ and ‘Whoever calls on the name of the Lord must turn away from evil,’” (2Ti_2:19, etc.).

God’s proclamation about people is clear and loud into the spiritual realm! It is just a matter whether or not we hear Him. If we don’t we don’t if we do then we do.

            For this reason it is important to decide a head of time whether or not we believe that someone has this gift.  If we wait until we need to call on a person for an issue, then we are only going to be double minded about the accuracy of what they say.  That is a disservice to the discerner and shows contempt for God.  God is not ½ True and ½ uncertain.  If the discerner is false then we also do ourselves a disservice by introducing bad council in an important situation.

            The reason that this is so important is because so many people want to ride the fence and get the best of both worlds.  They want the ability of having a discerner around, but not the commitment of all the way believing him.  They want the benefits of being married without its demanded commitment.  They still want to call all the shots as to whether or not they want to believe something.  They still want to go on their own understanding and that is selfish, untrusting, anti-productive, disrespectful, double-minded, infested with double standards, confusing, inconsistent, and dangerous. We should make up our minds as to what we want to believe.

 

  And it is true at the same time that people might accidentally hear God’s voice declaring

 

 

            Do we think God is uncertain of who is really connected with Him?  We would say “of course not!” But how ironic of us to cast so much doubt on one who claims discernment about this.  We are not just doubting the individual, but the concept that someone could know something like that.  If the preacher’s wife said that she knew about a mole on the preacher’s back we would not doubt that.  So if someone hangs out with God why do we think that it is so impossible for God to let that person in on things pertaining to salvation? Is that the unforgivable taboo for God? Is there a law prohibiting God from telling anyone but himself these things?  May be He is afraid of being arrested for divulging information.  Maybe He just doesn’t want to get court-martialed for leaking information.  You’re right.  That is ridiculous.  So why do you keep saying that?

 

1John says,

 

1Jo_3:9-10 ALT  Every one having been begotten from God is not practicing sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to be sinning, because he has been begotten from God.  10  By this are revealed [who are] the children of God and the children of the Devil: every one not practicing righteousness is not from God, and the one not loving his brother.

 

The clear principal is that the sons of God and the sons of the devil are made clear!  We are so anti-Biblical to say that we can’t know if the Bible says that it is made clear.

 

Mat_7:16-21 EMTV  You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grape clusters from thorns, or figs from thistles?  17  Thus every good tree produces good fruit, but a rotten tree produces evil fruit.  18  A good tree cannot produce evil fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit.  19  Every tree not producing good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.  20  Consequently, by their fruits you shall know them.  21  "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.

>> SOM | Testimony | Dis | GCA / API

 

In this passage of Scripture Jesus is expounding about the same thing in each verse.  We can be certain of this because Jesus repeats the same phrase, ‘You will recognize them by their fruit’ at the beginning and end part of this passage before taking it on in to the judgment of the false followers in verses 23 & 26-27.  There are several important points to get about the false followers: 1. He says that you will know them, and 2. Their distinction from the True followers clearly has to do with people who A. Have evil fruit B. are cut down and cast into fire C. Are apparent followers of Him, (good and bad trees both look like trees and are only differentiated by fruit!), and D. They call Him “Lord, Lord.”

 

The word translated “Know” is this Greek word:

G1921 ἐπιγινώσκω epiginōskō ep-ig-in-oce'-ko

From G1909 and G1097; to know upon some mark, that is, recognise; by implication to become fully acquainted with, to acknowledge: - (ac-, have, take) know (-ledge, well), perceive.  Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

 

Don’t you see how we contradict the Bible by saying that we cannot “know, recognize, acknowledge [or] perceive” who is saved, when that is exactly what Jesus emphatically says that we can and will do.

    Many people are offended at me when I tell them that someone is not saved.  I proclaim out loud the spiritual proclamations that God testifies to continually.  They will try to question me deflecting the issue as though the weight was on my claim to gifting in discernment.  What an error.  They do not realize that what I say about another’s salvation is independent of whether or not I proclaim it.  God testifies to salvation and He will continue to weather or I’m able to discern or not.  People who believe, know that what I’m saying is not a matter of gifting but of Truth and agreeing with the Holy Spirit, and saying what He is saying.

            It’s wrong to try to distract from the truth by pretending the issue upon the messenger.  When people do this, it is not an issue of determining the Truth, but a distraction from the Truth because of unbelief.  The issue is not whether or not they believe the messenger, but whether or not they believe the proclamations of God.  I challenge you Oh challenger, that you also are insensitive not only to the proclamations of a discerner, but also to the other proclamations of God in general.  You are also hard of hearing with them as well.  You are already practicing not hearing His right judgments and so this is not different.  The secret is that you are in contempt, not against the discerner, because the discerner is on God’s side, and God will side with him weather openly or behind the scenes.

            There are of course, false discerners who are proud and have self generated zeal that is shallow and not backed up with a life of truth and righteousness or truth.  If someone is known for flakiness or does not abide in truth then they should not be heeded.  If they have unsound doctrines that heed human opinion above Biblical truth, and if they enjoy philosophy more than sound truth, then they should not be heeded.  If they are unstable like this, I’m not saying that anyone should listen to them.  They should be rebuked in Love, and not approved until they have deep repentance.  But I’m mainly talking about the true discerners, because they are either true or false.  In this, the Bible verse makes more since: “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit.” –Jesus said it, I didn’t make it up.

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            Here is another question I would ask: If Jesus Judges someone as being unsaved by the Holy Spirit, and declares it why do you criticize me as though I was rash and judgmental.  It would be one thing if I decided to tell about what I thought about another person’s salvation.  But if I repeat what His Spirit says, then why do you hold me in contempt of being unreasonable and judgmental?  If I judged the motivations of men’s hearts, (1Co_4) then you would have something to accuse me with.  But if I declare the proclaimed Truth of God, then rather than opposing me, why aren’t you speaking out His words as well?

            You who oppose, your senses are dull from an unfaithful use of the Bible, (Workmen not ashamed, let God be true, exercising senses).  If they were sharp then you would agree with me because I am not “going beyond the Scriptures,” (1Co_4:6).  I am agreeing with them and speaking what they speak when I talk about anther’s salvation or connection with the Holy Spirit.

            You don’t read the things that God is testifying to, but if I do you are upset with me.  You may read the scripture about the solid foundation of God and its inscription, but why don’t you read this inscription?  If you don’t read it, then please tell me why you are upset with me for reading it.  How useful would it be for me to read all about Jesus but never actually make Him my Lord?  Would I be Biblical by doing this?  None of you in your right mind would say that I was.  Still you think I commit heresy for reading this inscription.  You don’t read it and I do, and you criticize me?  What’s wrong with you? 

            I am nothing special.  I am not making myself out to be anything. But because I obey and keep with the Bible, you should listen to me.  I really do loath the very thought of improper, and undue honor.  But I do want people to respect God and hear Him.  You should not listen to me because of who I am, but because I am telling you the Truth about God’s declarations you should listen to me.

 

I am not being critical of you if you are spiritually illiterate in dealing with this inscription, but if you oppose the Truth then you can’t complain if you feel criticized.

 

    If there is an inscription on God’s solid foundation what is it there for?  Is God in danger of forgetting who is saved so He has to write it down? No. But it is for a testimony unto the spiritual realm.

    It is a sad thing that we do to vocal discerners.   We so wrongly shoot our self in the foot and work against ourselves when we oppose discerners.  It is as though all of us went in to separate rooms and in each room there was a class explaining different specialty trades and all their hidden secrets and intricacies.  Then God put us all together to be a fully functional body (1Cor_12:7) a Holy corporation if you will, where when each does his part, the group works as a unit and accomplishes great exploits [borrowed terminology from Dan_11:28; Dan_11:32 KJV].

            How funny of God to make it to where each of us has to trust all the others in their trade!  I trust the pastor because his “room” included and necessitated knowing how to preach and lead and pastor a congregation.  When he makes decisions I trust him because he has been in the “room” of pastoral-ship; he has seen information that I have not.  This is the way it was designed to function with gifting.

            In this light it is tragic the way we treat discernment, because a discerner was not mint to be taken with skepticism, and interrogation.  I’m not implying that we take every character that comes along and accept and appoint him as a discerner.  Lord knows that most people that think they have discernment don’t have a hint of it.  But it is similar to the following Scriptures:

 

1Ti_3:10 NIV They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons

 

I would say that ‘discerners’ should be thoroughly tested to show whether or not they actually have this gift.  They may just know how to read peoples motives, or they may have well-tuned intuition. They may even have a lot of wisdom and experience, and all this should be determined first, before we trust their words as discernment.  Many people that have wisdom are often mistaken for someone who has discernment.  They are significantly different to the point that they are listed as different gifts in the Scriptures, (1Cor. 12:7 & 10).  For all practical matters concerning gifting they should be counted in different categories.

 

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Rom_16:10 NIV Greet Apelles, tested and approved in Christ.

Rev_2:2 …you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

 

Once we have tested them though, they should be trusted.  We struggle against our own body like a cat chasing his tail when we give the discerner a hard time for what he says.  But as it is, I consider that the lot of a discerner closely mirrors apostles:

 

1Co_4:9 For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like men condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to men. [10] We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! …. we are cursed…. we are persecuted…. [13] …we are slandered… Up to this moment we have become the scum of the earth, the refuse of the world,” [or in this case, “the scum and refuse of the church.”].

 

I am telling you from my own experience that I often feel like a bandit constantly running for my life after speaking a word of Truth.  Will I ever be safe from criticism and rejection for what I do?  -No. I inject the church with the vaccination only to be torn to pieces for it.  ‘The hand that feeds is bitten,’ – and torn off.  I’m not safe in my church, or among my family, or among my friends, or among any people because of the offensiveness of what I say.

    If only Jeremiah were around!  No one would recognize him except a discerner or a prophet, even though all you would have to do is see which person is everyone offended at, and there you would find him.  After he corrected things in me maybe I would finally have someone who would believe me.

    This is not so you can through a pity party for poor old me. I’ll survive because God backs me up when I say things, and continues to confirm that they are True. People hurt me with rejection and God consolidates me with confirmation. I guess we all serve a purpose somehow.  But He will not let me change my mind because He continually says the same things.  He’s my only tangible faithful fan.  Practically everyone else is generally consistently ultimately fickle in this area.  It is again as the Scriptures say:

 

2Ti_4:16-17 WEB  At my first defense, no one came to help me, but all left me. May it not be held against them.  17  But the Lord stood by me, and strengthened me, that through me the message might be fully proclaimed…  and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

 

-The only problem is that my ‘lion’ is the church.  And again it says:

 

2Co_1:8-10 EMTV  For we do not desire you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning our affliction which happened to us in Asia: that we were burdened beyond measure, beyond our strength, so that we despaired even of life.  9  Yes, we have had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead,  10  who delivered us from so great a death, and is delivering us; in whom we trust that He will still deliver us

 

This plight of mine might also have a lot to do with a calling on my life to be a prophet, but it does certainly include and revolve a lot around this issue of discernment.

 

With all this said, please don’t start to think that I’m talking about how I’m a faithful sinless persecuted martyr that never does anything wrong and everyone hates me because of it.  I’m not saying that at all.  I’m trying to communicate an un-believed, usually rejected, misunderstood truth about discernment and those who practice it.

    What I am saying is that it is a shame that we don’t let our own body work right but instead we fight it.  This is how we treat those who proclaim the Truth after discerning.  We have the propensity in us to stone those that we have the most need to listen to.

    A discerner has been inside his assigned “room” and we are foolish when we think that we know more about his room than he does because we have not been in it!  We think we know more about another person’s room than the one who specializes in that room.

    If you reject his council, then you also reject the only provision God provided for this purpose, that you might know the depths of God in this way.  Don’t then complain to God if ‘things just don’t seem to work right,’ and if something seems to be lacking.

    Wake up!  Look at what you are doing!  Pastors were meant to be trusted and to function in their role, deacons as deacons, exhorters as exhorters, and discerners where never mint to be treated with contempt. (Contempt should be piled upon the false counterfeits not on the True discerners).  A pastor should not be given all power without question, but if you don’t go ahead and submit to him in big necessary decisions then you are not letting him function in the purpose that God assigned him to in your life.

    Weather or not the ideal is in place in the church or in the discerner, the discerner was meant to be listened to and believed, not interrogated and doubted.  If you doubt him then you are not letting him function in your life for that purpose he was given to you for.  To you he is similar to a superstition.

    His words should not be taken as ‘possibilities’ that are only counted as being true once they are panned out and proven.  You should do the majority of your foundational testing of a person’s place as a discerner up front and not throw it in during a critical decision, and doubt them then.  Again this section is not opposing testing, but is about opposing stubborn inconsistent double standard minded doubts.  Without reopening the strain of the foundational testing, pastors deacons and discerners can all be continually tested without doubting and double mindedness.

    How unreasonable of us if a pastor needs to make a critical hard decision in a case where we just need to trust him but instead we start saying to him, “…how can we be sure if you are actually saved?  And if you are not, then why should we believe that God will give you the wisdom to make this decision?”  Hello!? Shouldn’t you have made that call long ago?  Why did you make him your pastor if you had not yet decided whether or not you thought he was saved?  In the same way, it is unreasonable to throw in doubts about a discerner’s discernment in the middle of a situation.  If you will not accept him in this ‘office’ in your life then fine.  Make up your mind before you go saying, ‘he has the gift of discernment.’

    If you are fearful and protest, “I can’t just blindly believe a discerner!”  -that is fine then.  Just don’t ever insult the person and God who assigned them their role by pretending that you are co-laboring with them and accepting them as one of God’s provisions for discernment in your life.  You are not approving of them as a discerner and you should decide that up front.  As far as you are concerned they are not a functional part of the body in the area of discernment in your life.  Don’t lie to yourself, the discerner, and God, by acting like you accept them as a discerner.

    Until you trust and believe a discerner, you are not letting him serve in his place in the body of Christ as he relates to you.

    Maybe he is beneficial.  Maybe he is entertaining to you.  Maybe you like throwing things his way to see what he says.  Maybe you do like a lot of things about him.  Maybe he has more areas he can be used in besides discernment.  Maybe, maybe, maybe all these things.  But this is certain.  You ARE NOT plugging him in to his place of gifting in the body until you believe him.  His greatest commodity is relatively useless to you.  All the things that we give him short of trusting and believing him are relatively weak consolidation prizes that may be good, but lack fulfilling his God-given purpose.  Everything is not well.  Everyone is not being used like they are supposed to be.  We are not all functioning as the Body of Christ.  We are a sporadic mutant that is punching our self.  If that is the way you choose to live then at least admit it, no discerner should hate or grudge you for it, though I can’t say what God will do.

    This is not about how discerners should have all this say so and authority.  All I wish is for people to believe the Truth, and believe God when He testifies to something.  If it were not an issue of believing God, then it would not be so important to listen to discerners.

    Am I out to preach myself if I write about discernment?  -No.  I just want people to believe Jesus and that’s it.  If I did not speak things from Him I would not care if people believed me or not because it would not be as important.  But I want people to respect God and as it is no one else seems to hear and proclaim what He says about these things, so that He goes on being disrespected.

    If the president said that he didn’t want his grass cut then I would not tell the gardeners not to cut it because I wanted to be bossy or even that I could gain a lot of say so in the matter.  If I were loyal to him I would tell people what he said and insist on it, because I did not want them to unknowingly disrespect the president’s wishes.  I would be zealous for the president, for the president’s sake, and because of my respect for and loyalty to Him.

    Now I am writing about discernment not because discerners are so special and I want us to have all this renown, but because I am zealous for the Word of my president and don’t want him to be disrespected and taken lightly.  I want you to believe because I want you to believe Jesus and what He says.  As things are though, there is continual disrespect and opposition to throws who stand up for the desires of the president.

    When I make big statements about God I know that people are trying to avoid the Truth when they start trying to change and shift the conversation to focus on me.  This is because the Truth is based on certainty, but if they can shift the validity of my statements on to me, an imperfect human then they can question, avoid dealing with, and walk around the Truth.  If they can pretend that my words are based on me then they won’t have to face them as Truth.

 

> If you are left with the following misunderstandings then you should be realistic with yourself and say, “I can’t rightly accuse him of wrong because I obviously didn’t understand what he meant when I was reading what offended me.” Here are those things that I hope you did not get:

 

 

[I’m primarily not talking about what we are walking in but what is available.]

 

Fear and Trembling

Many people have heard my boldness on this subject of discerning salvation and have responded counteractively reminding me that I should do things with fear and trembling and not blast people.  This often occurs while discussing the matter.  I shake my head within myself and wonder within myself, “You really don’t have any idea do you?” For Godliness sake, discussing the matter, is almost never the same tone as confrontation, just like the way that you treat your wife in private (with intimacy) is not the way you should treat her in public.  People assume that the tone in which it is discussed is the tone in which I promote we also confront.

     You really don’t have any idea do you? I say now to all who think that I need an admonition in ‘doing it lovingly’ or ‘with fear and trembling,’ because I am bold and insistent.  Indeed, any time that I think of confrontation “I exceedingly fear and quake” before God.  I cry out for Love, and rend my heart before God before I confront a person, especially about salvation.  Just because I am bold and extreme to proclaim this truth about discernment, does not by any means negate the fact that I exceedingly fear and quake!  Whoever confronts without such is foolish!  Whoever confronts someone wrongly, or presumptuously heaps condemnation upon themselves.  If you don’t know what you are doing, don’t you dare even think of telling someone that they are not saved?  You are playing a fool if you do!

     Do I confront people? –Yes. Do I tell some people that they are not saved? –Yes. Do I fear and quake? –Yes, yes, yes! If you think I don’t, then you’ve got some seriously erroneous assumptions about me.

     I want admonition desperately!  But people tend to be too quick to make illogical assumptions saying in essence that boldness shows a lack of Godly fear.  On the contrary! Boldness without Godly fear is not boldness, its foolishness.  (“The foolish are raging and self confident, but the wise hides himself and is saved”) There is no such thing as “balancing” boldness with Godly fear; they absolutely necessitate each other.  The counterfeit of boldness is foolishness and the counterfeit of Godly fear is cowardliness and God calls us to have no amount of either counterfeit, but the fullness and substance of that which is authentic.

     It is better to not judge or confront and stay innocent, then to do both unto condemnation.  If one does confront others then he takes his life in his hands.  And so he must do it soberly with much gravity and not do it presumptuously.

 

Desire It

In light of the harsh implications of doing it wrong many have shunned and shied far away from going near making calls on another person’s salvation.  I hear these same people talk about wanting to know and see things in the spiritual realm; to find the secrets of God.  This is all contradictory.

     People seem to abhor the thought of making judgment calls on others, but still they want the deep things of God.  Hear reality.  If you want the deep things, you can’t go very far without running smack into the heart of God.  If you want to be His friend, then you are asking for the things that are important to Him.  You can by no means relate closely to a heart aching Father in sorrow for His prodigal son, if you too don’t heart for that son.  You will not heart for that son until you listen to the Father’s pain about that son.

     What am I getting at?  The Father is talking about those who are not His, if you care to get close, then you will also care to hear His testimony that His “children” are lost.

What we are saying is, “God.  I really want to get close to you, but I’m really not that interested in hearing you testify as to what is most important to you.”  ‘The Lord knows those who are His,’ and if you will desire to know Him, and you listen closely, then (with time) you can hear Him sharing His heart of what He knows and declares.

 

Discernment vs. What we want to believe

The way to disbelieve the Bible and not exercise your senses

Originally written somewhere around 2000-2004 (it seems around 2002-2003)

 

“Watch your doctrine closely” or you are going to be attracted by false ideas and doctrines!  They are enticing temptations that sound good but aren’t True. 

Example:

“Once Saved; always Saved” – Sounds good to us.  Makes things feel less complicated. “I don’t have to believe that people that I Love and respect might not be saved.  That’s comfortable.  It sounds freeing but it’s not because the Truth makes you free.

Baptists tell the analogy of a lam and how if it strays the shepherd will break its leg and make it stay with him.  In this case the sheep will stick close to the shepherd the rest of his life.

-I know a Baptist that was wrestling with this issue and repeated this same analogy to me. He told me how it gave him such peace after wrestling with the issue if you could lose your salvation.  He, like many, was entrapped by a false since of peace because it seemed to take the pressure off of him.  He was so close before, and this got him.  Notice it was not because of the Bible that he was swayed, but by his own affections and pleasures; it was by finding something that made him feel good that he avoided believing what is right.

 

I remember when we did training in our city when Franklin Graham was about to come to town.  I visited a church and one of The Graham organization representatives came to teach some basics.  One of the things that he said was that some people deceived into suicide would make it to heaven. 

 

He kept emphasizing this verse:

“Not of works lest any man should boast… It is not of yourself. It is the gift of God.”

 

“Not of works” he kept pointing out as though that said your passage into heaven had nothing to do with what you do.  Again in this case practically the whole organization of people were deceived to fallow his false doctrine, because it sounded good.  He didn’t recognize that there are plenty of things one can do to forfeit their salvation.  If this same principal were applied, then we could say “It’s not of works so I could go commit genocide and go to heaven because it is not of works.”  He also neglected that it says that whoever destroys this temple, (that is God’s body/ assembly) God will also destroy him.

 

They use ‘not of works’ as a back door for the unsaved to masquerade as though they were saved.

 

It feels so good but it is so deceptive.  They say, “God is so full of grace that all you have to do is confess him and you will go to heaven…

 

I have also seen and heard people take the Scripture were Jesus says that you can cast a mountain in to the sea and say that Jesus was speaking figuratively.  It was as though I could hear them saying, “Oh good! Now I don‘t have to be under condemnation for not having enough faith. I have a comfortable alternate to believing what it really says.” They neglect that he withered a real literal tree and with real literal mountains in the background, (because they were in Jerusalem), he said that they could cast a mountain in to the sea.  They ignore all of this because in the depth of their soul they rely don’t want to believe the truth, but instead whatever feels good.  If this is the state of one’s heart what value is anything that they believe?  If the name “Jesus” was not comfortable for them, then they would surely switch to “Buford.” – With this christianity, “Can faith save them?” (Jas_2) Of course not!  If you believe the right things as they come convenient to you, then even the right things that you ‘believe’ will testify against you at the judgment. 

 

2 Discernments – Gifting vs. Exercising

Originally written after 2003 (I mentioned “Venezuela”)

This part is primarily instruction for the purpose of dispelling misunderstandings, and clarifying the Truth.

 

It is very important when trying to understand and assess discernment that we get what it is we are talking about.  Biblically speaking, there are two ways to discern that seem similar but operate totally different.  There is the gift of discernment, A.K.A.

 

“...discerning of spirits...” (1Co_12:10),

 

And there is the exercising of one’s senses unto discernment:

 

Heb_5:14 KJV “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil”

 

We can know that ‘discerning of spirits’ is a gift because it is listed in the list of gifts beginning in 1Co_12:10.  The passage about exercising senses uses the same Greek word diakrisis (Strong’s G1253) and is the only other place in the Bible that uses this word in the sense of discernment. (The only other place other than these two is Rom_14:1). 

     Here are some of the differences between the two.  The gift of discernment is just that: something spiritual that is a residing favor given by God.  It does not vary depending on how good of a day we have, or whether or not we understand the heavy implication of what we here declared.  Exercising on the other hand, takes hard work and perfecting to gradually get where we want to be.  One could just get saved and instantly hear God’s testimony about a spirit and know whether it is good or bad. This could be an example of someone receiving the Gift.  But the one who exercises their senses unto discernment is someone who gains a discernment “by reason of use.”  This person has experience in applying the Truth in the deep part of himself to the point that his innards are shaped like Jesus’.  That is, his soul becomes shaped to receive Truth so that things that come along that are contrary to it cannot easily be accepted by him.  I grew up with USA food, and it was hard for me to accept the idea of me eating Squid tentacles when I visited Venezuela, (other than that detail I loved it there).  So this exercised person is so experienced in handling the Truth inside of himself that he becomes uncomfortable with the thought of messing with anything else.  When a flaky person gives a false prophecy, because it is based on falsehood it is recognized as such.

     To make the distinction direct and to the point: Exercised discernment is a personal virtue gained threw Love of the Truth and practice, wereas the gift of discernment is a work that God does in some one (independent of their virtues and wisdom) were He allows one to hear His declarations about people and situations, to know whether they are good or bad spirits.

     You can’t teach someone to be gifted with discernment much more than you can teach someone to be a cat.  The only practical way to get someone to discern by means of the gift is to lay hands on them and impart the gift.  But as far as the exercising, one with understanding could implement principals for the other to practice and in that sense everyone should train to discern.

 

This Part Under construction:

 

     Here are some principals of Truth that you can use to exercise your senses:

 

1.  When People ‘fall away’

The Bible says,

 

1Jo_2:19 ASV  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all are not of us.”

 

Therefore once a person is found false who you thought was good, the spiritual purpose is for you to exercise!  Meditate on the flavor of what they produced and make a distinction between that and someone you KNOW is on.

> I originally had, “(Ex. Jason Dueñas).”

 

2. The Holy Spirit never makes sin look small; He never minimizes on sin

See how Jesus dealt with the issue of some sins needing more emphasis: (Draign gnat... vs. camel)

 

3. You will know them by their fruit...

 

4. Smoking- “No one who smokes is connected with Jesus.”

This is the principal statement, and the analysis of every smoking situation should start here and work out the details after starting with this point.

If you will apply this principal without perverting it with modern theology it is worth believing because you will train your senses!

This is not to say that God is absent from the life of every smoker.  This might very well be part of the salvation process, if they are broken and humble about their state of enslavement.  This type of person is honest and up-front, not proposing to be right with God.  But for all practicality, there is no relationally functional Holy Spirit connection.

 

5. Everyone who continues sinning with any area of their romantic life does not have a working connection with Jesus.  This means, if someone is Flirting, kissing, or mixing their soul with a significant other before marriage, then they are off.   You can count on it, and if you do, then you can mark out who is connected and who is not.  By this you learn what right and wrong taste like.

 

When you see yourself or others doing any of these things you can know that it is disconnecting you or them from Jesus, like getting kicked off of the internet.  By knowing this you can learn to distinguish between good and evil.

 

-End Construction zone-

 

If you reject these principals it is not that you just disagree with my exterior doctrine, but if you disagree you should for all righteousness sake, go ahead and forget discerning.  I do advise and beg you to do so in the name of Jesus, if this is the case.  In such a case, it is already clear that you are not fit to discern, and it is better to be hot or cold even in this area, than to appear “on target” and lead others astray.  You’ll never get it as long as you strive with these types of things and choose not to accept them. 

    You could not get them and possibly still be saved, and lie to yourself and say that you do indeed discern, but I’m telling you the Truth, that you’ll never get it like that and you will lose in the realm of discernment.  You will by your foolishness store up judgment for yourself when Jesus reveals all things.  I challenge you to ask the Lord if I am telling you the Truth!

     It might seem from all this that I was more excited and concerned about training than gifting and that is the case in my hopes and prayers for others.  But in general I am far more excited about the gift because it has to do with hearing from God, and it is what God has specifically given me the authority to declare.  As Paul says, I can similarly say,

 

Gal_1:11-12 KJB But I certify (make known) to you, brothers, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

And that, concerning the gift of discernment is the statement of faith that I aspire to declare. Because people tend to be resistant to it, I have set out to show this Truth by the Scriptures.

 

  As far as I remember, I have never seen anyone operate with the gift of discernment, at least not consistently. Conversely, out of my church of up to 600 people [this was the size of first assembly when I wrote this] I have only seen 4.5 people consistently operate in some level of exercised discernment.  Because this is the situation, the only discerning that people see, is that done threw exercised senses and this is where the misunderstanding comes in. We expect that we are all supposed to have our place in the body of Christ, based on our spiritual gifts.  We then assess wrongly that they must have the gift of discernment when we see them discern.

     Thus, someone who thinks a lot and Loves Truth is wrongly labeled as having the gift of discernment. The gift of discernment is unlike the exercised ability, in that it is NOT a heightened sense by which one perceives the spiritual state of a situation or person.  The quality of exercised discernment can vary based on faithfulness to Love the Truth, and how someone applies doctrines.  It has the potential to swing from accuracy to inaccuracy based on the person.  If a person swings from accuracy to inaccuracy then you can be sure that they are not operating in the gift.  If that is how someone thinks the gift works then they completely don’t understand the basic function and nature of discernment.

     Is the gifted person flawless in this area? No, but the gift is.  It is either on or off. There is no in-between.  This is hard to except, (and understand) but without it you will never understand why discernment produces such an unmovable confidence.  If you see a pastor murder someone, though the whole world may not believe you, but you will know what you have seen.  And if you are zealous for justice in this area, then nothing will stop you. By the way, John the Apostle had this confidence, (see 1Jo_1:1-5).

     Until you get this you will wrongly attack, distrust, skepticize, and distract with wicked flesh and pretend to analyze a discerner’s proclamations.  It is burdensome enough that you are the only one who knows the reality of the tragedy, but to then have everyone say that you are judgmental and wrong, and even have people you love and respect interrogate you... it’s no wonder it is a popular gift! No one believes you. But the Lord will not stop consistently clearly testifying to the truth with in you. 

 

1Jo_1:1-5 LITV ...what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we beheld, and what our hands touched, as regards the Word of Life....we bear witness, and we announce to you the everlasting Life which was....revealed to us. We announce to you what we have seen, and what we have heard, that you also may have fellowship with us. ...this is the message which we have heard from Him, and we proclaim to you...

 

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Email to Jason Dueñas

I think around 2003-2004 (I might could find the specific date in Jos_Scott@msn.com)

Note: this was before I was kicked out of this church

 

I hold that the teaching on discernment that I am writing is for generally for those I desire to co-labor with, not for the church.

When I say, “co-labor” I mean like it says,

1Ti_1:2  to Timothy, my true child in faith…

Tit_1:4  to Titus, my true child according to a common faith…

Similarly, there are certain people who are not just saved, but they are my True brothers and co-laborers.

 

I don’t think that discernment as it relates to me and what I teach is an issue for public ministry, at least not as far as I know at this time.  So this would not be appropriate for our church, and I don’t think that it has to do with deaconship- but it might if I tell someone that they are off…

For our church, I give the other issues that pertain to any possible public ministry because the other issues involve them that I minister to, wear as discernment mainly involves those I would co-labor with. 

 

A Word For Mike About Discernment

Written around late 2004 or 2005, sometime after being asked to leave first Assembly

 

After so long of waiting and not being able to say anything I think that I finally have a word for you about discernment.

 

Just like God set the boundaries of the waters He has also said that a man’s on-ness, His connection to God, will not be determined by his sincerity.  God has set this boundary and not man, and neither can man change it.

 

Because this has been too uncomfortable for you to bear and you could not accept [except] it, you could not bear God’s justice and His judgment in this matter.  It has been too high of a price to pay and too unreasonable in your eyes to accept that many who are sincere in their attempts toward God are indeed Truly off.  And because it was too expensive of a thing for you to believe God’s justice you have also missed the kingdom in this matter, and God has already said long before I ever came on the scene “Woe to those who miss the kingdom.”  And this prophetic word is strongly echoing threw out, over us in the heavens, every since it has been said.

 

May it be that neither you nor anyone else will find himself under the “woe” of God, AND may that only be true by us having the courage to change.  And what good would it do to change one’s opinion and not his actions?  So may our actions change and not simply our opinions be influenced.

 

Praying for good to be on your life inasmuch as you obey Him

-Josiahs

 

Rochelle Discernment Question

-----Original Message-----
From: AUGUSTIN,ROCHELLE C [mailto:colagus1@ufl.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:24 PM
To: josiahs@trueconnection.org
Subject: discernment

 

Hi Josiahs!

I hope that work is going well. I was thinking about discernment

this week and I have come to one conclusion, I really do not know

what it is. People talk about it all the time but I do not have a

clear idea of what it is and how we should use it. Is discernment

knowing what is and is not of God? Or is it being able to

differentiate between clean and unclean spirits? Also in 1 Timothy

(I think?) it mentions practicing discernment. How do we do that?

 

Rochelle

 

 

--

AUGUSTIN,ROCHELLE C

 

Josiahs’ Reply To Rochelle’s Question

 

From: Josiahs Scott [mailto:josiahs@trueconnection.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:54 PM
To: 'AUGUSTIN,ROCHELLE C'
Subject: RE: discernment

 

“what it is and how we should use it”

Discernment is basically when God supernaturally let's you in on what's *really* going on.  It is the revealing of mysteries that we humans are blind to. It is almost always more than anyone is ready to handle.

    Most of the time discernment plays out by distinguishing between good and evil, and what is the Holy Spirit and what is not. So I would say, Discernment is both “knowing what is and is not of God” as well as differentiating “between clean and unclean spirits”

 

"People talk about it all the time"

As much as people seem to talk about it, it is ironically almost non-existent in the church. Very few people walk in any real discernment at all, so, almost to make up for this they confuse it with other virtues to convince themselves that they have experienced discernment.

    Most people who mention "discernment" are often confusing it with "Wisdom" for a given situation. Ex.:

"God please give me discernment to know what to do..." (they really mean "wisdom").

I do see some wisdom at work at times, but just about never do I see actual discernment happening in church. Because people so often mess up on this, it adds confusion to the question you are facing, and may be why you are left wondering what it actually is. (Exceptions to this may include Angelle, especially since we’ve talked about this and it seems she’s asking for the right things).

 

I can’t think of a 1 Tim ref. to discernment off the top of my head, but here are two of the most critical verses on this issue:

 

Heb_5:14 WEB  But solid food is for those who are full grown, who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.

 

1Co_12:1, 10 WEB  Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I don't want you to be ignorant… 10  …to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discerning of spirits; to another different kinds of languages; and to another the interpretation of languages.

 

Pray over these verses and dig into the surrounding context and ask for understanding on these things. There is a difference between what these two verses reference, but they both result in discernment. Lord wiling we can talk about these after XA Friday night.

 

If you can, read this email with Angelle and talk about the verses between now and then.

 

God bless in running after Jesus. May He grant you real Wisdom and Discernment.

 

Josiahs Scott

 

Discernment Prayers for Angelle

This is what I got in prayer before Angelle asked about discernment, but I did not give it to her because I wanted to be sure that this was what God was saying. As she talked I thought of briefly mentioning a slight thought from this email, but before it could even come out of my mouth she brought up discernment herself and confirmed this word.

 

Josiahs’ Email to Angelle Prepared before She Asked About it

Angelle’s Notes On the Discernment Exhortation

Modified ‎Saturday, ‎January ‎26, ‎2008; follow up email: 8/13/2009

From: Josiahs Scott [mailto:josiahs@trueconnection.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Angelle Lewis (rose253@ufl.edu)
Subject: Discernment Prayers

 

Take these things for what they are worth in as much as God may have them applicable in your life.

 

 

Discernment- is not a matter of reasoning or proving a point; it’s a matter of  hearing the voice of God or not
You need to be exercising your senses and be faithful with the little (his revealed will-external confirmations) . Discernment is his concealed will.

How are you determining what to pursue and how to pursue it? It should be through discernment…towards God’s favor or away from God’s favor…knowing what to value and to what extent…Discernment Determines your awareness of what to pursue. There is something about the honor of God that we take for granted. He wants those to represent him- is his righteousness and honor upheld. If one person is representing what God’s saying then God can be merciful to the whole group for the sake of that one person or despite ignorance.

Isa_63:9-


Take these things for what they are worth in as much as God may have them
applicable in your life.



 

Be Prepared for:

1. Extreme Approval

2. Complete Disapproval

3. "Mixed Mode":

- God's extreme pleasure toward a person even though they are not all the way there yet.

- God's complete approval on someone who still has serious issues fighting with things.

- Not "despising" comes into play here, and is perfected with a real hearing of what God is actually saying, and a rejection of human presumption and foolish opinion.

 

Questions to ask about Mixed Mode

Is someone cooperating or fighting that which opposes them?

- oppose themselves

- Personally Destructive Doctrines

- Incapable of doing what's best for them

or

- God is profoundly with a person, but you ask "Really? Are You sure?" - Then you eventually see why

- God comes through amazingly

 

Discernment Determines your awareness of what to pursue.

 

I am telling you true things:

- In the best cases most people START to get basic limited "exercised-discernment" after at least 3-10 years of extreme heart-felt seeking Jesus, if they even ever get it at all...

- Most people who follow Jesus are fortunate to have a remnant hint of exercised-discernment at all, after following after Him for their whole life.

- Most discernment a person ever experiences is by accident, because they surely would not be ready to conclude these things if they had a say in it.

- How faithful are you going to be when God says how He feels?

- Does He have good reason to trust you

- Talking of weaken state in Westernize culture

 

 

- Gifting supernaturally favors you with a rush of more to be faithful with

 

- The right conclusions of discernment produce darkness, depression and death taken out of the context of God's CONTINUED favor on you to handle it.

 

 

- everywhere I turn I hear violence

- "Moses was faithful in all my house"

- remembered the days of Moses...

 

Be Prepared:

- If God is going to do a lot here, then it may be that His might give you a pre-fulfillment of this

- God has already been dealing with you differently

 

Discernment

- Discernment is not based on or validified by any human faculty (though it is confirmed "among the sons of men" for our sake so that God gets glory).

- It stands independently true, without the mediation of human weights.

- Discernment is not about a person's Judgment, but about honoring the True Words of God that are Universally spoken everywhere.

- "Don't cast pearls before swine": They will blame it on you! ("Who do you think you are!?" 'How do you know that?")

- If they were listening they would hear the same things

 

 

- Moses: Oh that God would pour out on all

- given for the perfecting of the saints, but they would rather remain imperfected than to believe these things and operate in this way

 

 

Josiahs Scott

(352) 222-5471

Be Prepared for:

1. Extreme Approval

 Be sensitive to where God’s favor is

 In as much as God is approving of someone, I need to be keeping that
            position as well. We have to be more merciful than the default of our own

 soul . You can correct people in a favorable way. If you know that God is

 completely approving of someone then you’re disabled from despising

 them in your heart. Don’t embrace human presumptions. 


2. Complete Disapproval

Is God rejecting them? If we’re approving of them and God is not then

we’re dishonoring God. Our judgment is not the same as God’s.

Isa 11: 3, John_7:24

3. "Mixed Mode"

Extreme pleasure but not complete approval
- God's extreme pleasure toward a person even though they are not all the
way there yet.

- God's complete approval on someone who still has serious issues fighting
against things.

- Not "despising" comes into play here, and is perfected with a real hearing
of what God is actually saying, and a rejection of human presumption and
foolish opinion.



Questions to ask about Mixed Mode

Is someone cooperating or fighting that which opposes them?

- Oppose themselves

2 Tim_2:25 principle 

Embracing a teaching that they think is true but it is the very thing that destroys them. i.e. All things are lawful so I can date and kiss in purity

Not zealous to fortify your weak areas

- Personally Destructive Doctrines

- Incapable of doing what's best for them

or

- God is profoundly with a person, but you ask "Really? Are You sure?" -
Then you eventually see why

- God comes through amazingly

I am telling you true things:
In our Westernized Culture…


- In the best cases most people START to get basic limited
"exercised-discernment" after at least 3-10 years of extreme heart-felt
seeking Jesus, if they even ever get it at all...

- Most people who follow Jesus are fortunate to have a remnant hint of
exercised-discernment at all, after following after Him for their whole
life.

- Most discernment a person ever experiences is by accident, because they
surely would not be willing to conclude these things if they had a say in it.

- How faithful are you going to be when God says how He feels?

- Does He have good reason to trust you?

- Once again these statements are talking of weaken state in Westernize culture
- Gifting supernaturally favors you with a rush of more to be faithful with

- The right conclusions of discernment produce darkness, depression and
death taken out of the context of God's CONTINUED favor on you to handle it.

- Jerem
iah_20:7-     This is a pretty accurate attitude to being in a body of mostly   unsaved people (hard hearted)
 The prophets were the only ones to believe what God was saying


- "Moses was faithful in all my house"

  Numbers_12:6-8

Be Prepared:

- If God is going to do a lot here, then it may be that He might give you a
pre-fulfillment of this

- God has already been dealing with you differently

Discernment

- Discernment is not based on or validified by any human faculty (though it
is confirmed "among the sons of men" for our sake so that God gets glory).
 It stands independently true, without the mediation of human weights.

- Discernment is not about a person's own Judgment, but about honoring the True Words of God that are Universally spoken everywhere. If we’ll just hear him… It’s his words not mine. 

- "Don't cast pearls before swine" When you do hear what God has to say then be prepared to handle it with wisdom: They will blame it on you! ("Who do you
think you are!?" 'How do you know that?") That’s that
Num_12:2

- If they were listening they would hear the same things. That’s why we have the body 
- Moses: Oh that God would pour out on all  Num 11: 29

- Discernment is given for the perfecting of the saints, to keep out the leaven from His body and to uphold is honor but they would rather remain
unperfected than to believe these things and operate in this way.

 

End Note

 

The amount of favor that God’s is going to have on your life is going to be greatly affected by the way you interact with people. If you can discern, it increases favor on your life. It affects the way you deal with people who are on and those who are off without basing things on human observations. Ask God how far he wants to take me in this and in what ways is he wants to do it in, in what direction. 

Discernment gets a lot harder before it gets easier but in the long run it is so worth it.

 

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Josiahs, I think about the many times that you've poured into us and i'm so very grateful for your life. Be encouraged that God has used you mightily in proclaiming his truth and the effect of it has been very similiar to what I wrote above.

I was talking with someone about you a good while back and they said that they determine a tree by it's fruit. What they were getting at was that you may not be on and that they couldn't see the fruit of your "righteousness". Well, they couldn't have been more wrong and let's not say... maybe lacking in some discernment... There is crazy fruit in your life and I want to encourage you to continue abiding in all faithfulness.

 

Other Excerpts

 

Spiritual Gifts Questionnaire

This is one of the most tragic and embarrassing things that has ever been misconstrued about the gift of discernment:

 

On testing for the gift of ‘Discernment” one of the descriptive questions was,

"I am a good judge of character, and can spot a spiritual phony." (Spiritual Gifts Questionnaire at FAOG, around 2000-2004)

 

Youth Group Story

At West Wood Hills Youth group, the youth pastor was asked about tongues, "Do you know when someone is faking it?" during an open discussion.  He answered, “Don't know. Don't want’a know. It’s like judging someone’s salvation.  Dangerous information that I don't need to know.”  I was sick to my stomach that such naturally good curiosity that can lead us into the depths of Jesus was squished by this youth pastor.

    Somewhere around a number of months to a number years later I revisited the same church to see if the “adults” were wicked too, and that was when the music performer lead a small group at night. When asked to “draw a picture that represents your spiritual gift(s)” I drew a gun hiding behind a framed castle or house. When it came my turn to “share” the music pastor seemed unhappy about my picture and quickly moved on to the next person without asking any questions.

 

Different Covenants

 

O.T.:    Described like this:

Discernment was a result of wisdom, to tell and know things (Ex. David had discernment to know that a woman was not speaking on her own but had been cited to o so by Joab, his captain of his army).

 

N.T.:    1. Exercising of senses toward discerning good and evil. (same virtue praised in the OT)

            2. Spiritual gifting to discern spirits.

 

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“…then we build up the wall of Jericho and damn ourselves in open daylight, because we contradict the edict of God”

 

Power Proves? – Discernment is absolutely Necessary

- Kingdom about power and demonstration

- I never knew you

- Jesus was a prophet approved by signs (Acts)/ Hebrews

- Anti Christ has signs

- So what’s the difference?

 

My Life to you

5/16/04

 

Not Reverencing the boundaries of what You really know of God’s voice prepares you for mis-discerning in a season of Apostasy Temptations

Because the righteous are light with their favor and irresponsible with what strength they consider "inspiration"/anointing from God, therefore when their head is shaved they do not detect (the ichabad) that God has departed from them.

 

2011 Thoughts

What is the point in putting the piece of paper in a container?

Does He want you to not hide your light yet make His own innacessible?

This is how to excell spiritually and gain great testimony before God: hear God's voice

Most all People in every single denomination in every church belive that you cannot know if someone is lost

They seem to think that the only rule in the Bible is don't judge but they gluttonise in judgement of the flesh all the time by calling people "brother" - hypocrits! The judgement we have been commanded to do they forbid, and the judgement God ahtes they do.

I have got news for you: every demon and fallen Angel of hell knows if you are saved or not. It is plainly visible to the Spiritual realm. Wouln't God much rather reveal these things to His friends?

And we must care that god does reveal these things today about people just like He did to the profits against the hypocricies of their day.

But we are stuck on some idea...that we cannot know...but yet we do seem to know that everyone is saved here (though we know this false as hating God)

 

It is time to reverence the testimony of God. (how does this compare with being faithful to the Scriptures of truth?)

It is time to take to take the divine seriously.

 

But we are still stuck on this idea that this is determined by people's sincerity: we stobbornly refuse to crash the idol in this age.

 

Discernment is not about motives

>> or rather “intensions”????

1Co 4 & 1Sam (choosing David)

 

Discernment is not about judging people's hidden motives, but about actually respecting the judge of men's hearts when He speaks.

Note: even heart purity is not about motives but actual content - did you do what I told you to do? (mat 7) and is your heart actually true! - nearly everyone on planet earth has good intensions but (unlike the filthy eBay philosphy), very few people actually do truth. If you are not exreemly less guilty than they are then you will not amke it to heaven - how will you testify against them when you still stand in danger and need to repent?

 

 

 

Perception Additions

 

 

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Don’t Trust Sincerity, or the Judge by the Sight of Your Eyes!

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Jos_9:14 WEB  The men sampled their provisions, and didn't ask counsel from the mouth of Yahweh.

Jos_9:14 LB  And the chiefs took of their provisions, but they did not ask counsel from the Lord.

Jos_9:14  καὶ ἔλαβον οἱ ἄρχοντες τοῦ ἐπισιτισμοῦ αὐτῶν καὶ κύριον οὐκ ἐπηρώτησαν.

Jos_9:15 WEB  Joshua made peace with them, and made a covenant with them, to let them live. The princes of the congregation swore to them.

Jos_9:15 And Joshua made peace with them, and they made a covenant with them to preserve them; and the princes of the congregation swore to them.

Jos_9:15  καὶ ἐποίησεν Ἰησοῦς πρὸς αὐτοὺς εἰρήνην καὶ διέθετο πρὸς αὐτοὺς διαθήκην τοῦ διασῶσαι αὐτούς, καὶ ὤμοσαν αὐτοῖς οἱ ἄρχοντες τῆς συναγωγῆς. --

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Jos_7:7 WEB  Joshua said, "Alas, Lord Yahweh, why have you brought this people over the Jordan at all, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to cause us to perish? I wish that we had been content and lived beyond the Jordan!

Jos_7:7 LB  And Joshua said, “I pray, O Lord, why has Your servant brought this people over the Jordan to deliver them to the Amorite to destroy us? If only we would had remained, and settled ourselves beyond the Jordan!

Jos_7:7  καὶ εἶπεν Ἰησοῦς Δέομαι, κύριε, ἵνα τί διεβίβασεν ὁ παῖς σου τὸν λαὸν τοῦτον τὸν Ιορδάνην παραδοῦναι αὐτὸν τῷ Αμορραίῳ ἀπολέσαι ἡμᾶς; καὶ εἰ κατεμείναμεν καὶ κατῳκίσθημεν παρὰ τὸν Ιορδάνην.

Jos_7:8 WEB  Oh, Lord, what shall I say, after that Israel has turned their backs before their enemies!

Jos_7:8 And what shall I say since Israel has turned his back before his enemy?

Jos_7:8  καὶ τί ἐρῶ, ἐπεὶ μετέβαλεν Ισραηλ αὐχένα ἀπέναντι τοῦ ἐχθροῦ αὐτοῦ;

Jos_7:9 WEB  For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land will hear of it, and will surround us, and cut off our name from the earth. What will you do for your great name?"

Jos_7:9 And when the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land hear it, they shall compass us round about and destroy us from off the land: and what will You do for Your great name?”

Jos_7:9  καὶ ἀκούσας ὁ Χαναναῖος καὶ πάντες οἱ κατοικοῦντες τὴν γῆν περικυκλώσουσιν ἡμᾶς καὶ ἐκτρίψουσιν ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς· καὶ τί ποιήσεις τὸ ὄνομά σου τὸ μέγα;

Jos_7:10 WEB  Yahweh said to Joshua, "Get up! Why are you fallen on your face like that?

Jos_7:10 And the Lord said to Joshua, “Rise up; why have you fallen upon your face?

Jos_7:10  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Ἰησοῦν Ἀνάστηθι· ἵνα τί τοῦτο σὺ πέπτωκας ἐπὶ πρόσωπόν σου;

 

God is the judge and He did not destroy Joshua like he did the children of Israel.

What should we learn from this? There is more available than we thought at first.

 

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8/4/18

Talking to Spirits and Perceiving and testing the Truthfulness of what they respond with and say

Jos_5:13-14

 

Did Joshua have a point of reference?

Moses’ prayer life in the tent that brought heaven to earth!

 

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Spiritual Science

Referenced elsewhere:

Eph_5:17 - understanding the will of the Lord

>> incl. Rom_12: changing mind to test and approve God’s perfect will

 

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Claiming Discernment Means Hell

False Claims of Discernment Are Rejected in the Eternal Wrath of Hell

2/10/18

 

If you claim you have discernment, you are going to hell

>> you are claiming to “see” (perception)

>> because you say “I see” you sin remains (you are not forgiven)

 

How could people make so many videos and talk so much about something they have no idea about and have never even seen?

 

The unbridled wickedness of claiming discernment will be hated and burned in wrath forever….

You are insensitive to how prideful and arrogant and filthy you are….

But the king will come upon you as a thief in the night and sudden terrors will overtake you as you are scrutinized by the king of Judgement

 

 

Judging vs discernment -- another oxymoron…

Church people build entire theologies that have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible

Discernment in the Bible is Judging, and not just judging, but thoroughly judging!!!

 

 

 

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Deu_28:28 WEB  Yahweh will strike you with madness, and with blindness, and with astonishment of heart;

Deu_28:28 LB  The Lord shall strike you with insanity, and blindness, and astonishment of mind.

Deu_28:28  πατάξαι σε κύριος παραπληξίᾳ καὶ ἀορασίᾳ καὶ ἐκστάσει διανοίας,

Deu_28:29 WEB  and you shall grope at noonday, as the blind gropes in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be only oppressed and robbed always, and there shall be none to save you.

Deu_28:29 And you shall grope at midday, as a blind man gropes in the darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways; and then you shall be unjustly treated, and plundered continually, and there shall be no helper.

Deu_28:29  καὶ ἔσῃ ψηλαφῶν μεσημβρίας, ὡσεὶ ψηλαφήσαι ὁ τυφλὸς ἐν τῷ σκότει, καὶ οὐκ εὐοδώσει τὰς ὁδούς σου· καὶ ἔσῃ τότε ἀδικούμενος καὶ διαρπαζόμενος πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας, καὶ οὐκ ἔσται σοι ὁ βοηθῶν.

 

Deu_28:34 WEB  so that you shall be mad for the sight of your eyes which you shall see.

Deu_28:34 And you shall be distracted, because of the sights of your eyes which you shall see.

Deu_28:34  καὶ ἔσῃ παράπληκτος διὰ τὰ ὁράματα τῶν ὀφθαλμῶν σου, ἃ βλέψῃ.

 

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Pro_20:12

 

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Being in two places at once, spiritually

 

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Paul Loving At A Distance

Pop: Lov and/or llo????

 

>> recompile here!!!!!

 

 

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He Will Not Judge According to His Own Sight of His Eyes

8/13/17

 

2Co_10:7 Do you look at things as they appear? If anyone has persuaded himself that he is Christ's, let him again consider this in himself, that just as he is Christ's, even so we are Christ's.

2Co_10:7  Τὰ κατὰ πρόσωπον βλέπετε. εἴ τις πέποιθεν ἑαυτῷ Χριστοῦ εἶναι, τοῦτο λογιζέσθω πάλιν ἀφ᾿ ἑαυτοῦ, ὅτι καθὼς αὐτὸς Χριστοῦ, οὕτω καὶ ἡμεῖς Χριστοῦ.

2Co_10:7  τα κατα προσωπον βλεπετε ει τις πεποιθεν εαυτω χριστου ειναι τουτο λογιζεσθω παλιν Aεφ TSBαφ εαυτου οτι καθως αυτος χριστου ουτως και ημεις TSBχριστου

 

 

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4/21/16; 5/19/16

in the limitations of the flesh, i am just like everyone else -- prone to error, and misperceptions... but in the power of what is true and spiritual, the perfect testimony i have heard has never approved of a false person, and I have been made to perceive all kind of things I should not know

 

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5/25/16

hurting can have a lot to do with perception, because it is the callace of searing that makes you so numb that you cannot feel.

 

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Finding out What Pleases the Lord

Lev_22:29 WEB "When you sacrifice a sacrifice of thanksgiving to Yahweh, you shall sacrifice it so that you may be accepted.

Lev_22:29 And if you should offer a sacrifice, a vow of rejoicing to the Lord, you shall offer it so as to be accepted for you.

Lev_22:29 ἐὰν δὲ θύσῃς θυσίαν εὐχὴν χαρμοσύνης κυρίῳ, εἰς δεκτὸν ὑμῖν θύσετε αὐτό·

 

where s other ref

 

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Lev_22:22-25

 

Lev_22:25 WEB Neither shall you offer the bread of your God from the hand of a foreigner of any of these; because their corruption is in them. There is a blemish in them. They shall not be accepted for you.' "

Lev_22:25 Neither shall you offer the gifts of your God of all these things by the hand of a stranger, because there is corruption in them, a blemish in them: these shall not be accepted for you.’”

Lev_22:25 καὶ ἐκ χειρὸς ἀλλογενοῦς οὐ προσοίσετε τὰ δῶρα τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν ἀπὸ πάντων τούτων, ὅτι φθάρματά ἐστιν ἐν αὐτοῖς, μῶμος ἐν αὐτοῖς, οὐ δεχθήσεται ταῦτα ὑμῖν.

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SincereConnection.com

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Sat 8/19/2017 4:37 AM

 

Hi,

 

I am wondering if you would consider obtaining the sincereconnection dot com  domain name since you own a similar name yourself.

 

I would appreciate if you would let me know.

 

Thanks.

 

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Intentions, Motives, Sincerity, And Poverty -- What Really Makes You Approved?

5/8/17

 

many of the words in this title are often treated as synonyms, but even though this is common, it is very foolish and short-sighted and very ignorant of Justice.

 

almost everyone has a very liberal idea about what it is that makes them approved.

 

without any Integrity, most people behold their own heart and flatter themselves with justifications that are founded on their own blindness.

 

assuming that you are not blind, and assuming that a righteous God would actually like what disgusting things you blindly Passover , is an absurdity that breaches all integrity.

 

 

almost everyone has good intentions, but motives are something very different.

 

motives are not what you intend to do, but motives are the hidden energies that    cause you to do what you actually end up doing.

 

God looks at your heart? That's just the problem! He sees how ugly and dirty and disgusting you are, even though you are blind to your disgusting dirtiness.

 

 

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Is the Bible the Third Member of the Trinity?

>> see: LO

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Other date; 8/11/17

Num_16:28 WEB Moses said, Hereby you shall know that Yahweh has sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of my own mind.

Num_16:28 And Moses said, “Hereby shall you know that the Lord has sent me to perform all these works, that I have not done them of myself.

Num_16:28 καὶ εἶπεν Μωυσῆς Ἐν τούτῳ γνώσεσθε ὅτι κύριος ἀπέστειλέν με ποιῆσαι πάντα τὰ ἔργα ταῦτα, ὅτι οὐκ ἀπ᾿ ἐμαυτοῦ·

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7/24/17

Teyo Lee

How can we know if a sign or a wonder is from God or Satan?

Teyo Lee 2 Corinthians 11

 

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Mary Hook

Mary Hook Who ever puts a lot of focus or energy into deliverance, prophesy, healing etc.. are not of God. The word says that the only thing that will abide is charity. Love (genuine godly love) is to be done & strived after more than faith, hope, or any wonder....See More

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James Owens Great question

Kevin A Johnson

Kevin A Johnson Where you from, simple discernment

 

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6/28/17

 

>> Num_22:1 – Balaam

 

Num_23:3 WEB  Balaam said to Balak, Stand by your burnt offering, and I will go: perhaps Yahweh will come to meet me; and whatever he shows me I will tell you. He went to a bare height.

Num_23:3 And Balaam said to Balak, “Stand by your sacrifice, and I will go and see if God will appear to me and meet me, and the word which He shall show me, I will report to you.” And Balak stood by his sacrifice.

Num_23:3  καὶ εἶπεν Βαλααμ πρὸς Βαλακ Παράστηθι ἐπὶ τῆς θυσίας σου, καὶ πορεύσομαι, εἴ μοι φανεῖται ὁ θεὸς ἐν συναντήσει, καὶ ῥῆμα, ὃ ἐάν μοι δείξῃ, ἀναγγελῶ σοι. καὶ παρέστη Βαλακ ἐπὶ τῆς θυσίας αὐτοῦ, καὶ Βαλααμ ἐπορεύθη ἐπερωτῆσαι τὸν θεὸν καὶ ἐπορεύθη εὐθεῖαν.

>> etc.

 

 

 

Num_23:12 WEB  He answered and said, Must I not take heed to speak that which Yahweh puts in my mouth?

Num_23:12 And Balaam said to Balak, “Whatsoever the Lord shall put into my mouth, shall I not take heed to speak this?”

Num_23:12  καὶ εἶπεν Βαλααμ πρὸς Βαλακ Οὐχὶ ὅσα ἐὰν ἐμβάλῃ ὁ θεὸς εἰς τὸ στόμα μου, τοῦτο φυλάξω λαλῆσαι ;

 

Num_23:17 WEB  He came to him, and behold, he was standing by his burnt offering, and the princes of Moab with him. Balak said to him, What has Yahweh spoken?

Num_23:17 And he returned to him. And there he was, standing by his whole burnt sacrifice, and all the princes of Moab with him. And Balak said to him, “What has the Lord spoken?”

Num_23:17  καὶ ἀπεστράφη πρὸς αὐτόν, καὶ ὅδε ἐφειστήκει ἐπὶ τῆς ὁλοκαυτώσεως αὐτοῦ, καὶ πάντες οἱ ἄρχοντες Μωαβ μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ. καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Βαλακ Τί ἐλάλησεν κύριος;

 

Num_23:26 WEB  But Balaam answered Balak, Didn't I tell you, saying, All that Yahweh speaks, that I must do?

Num_23:26 And Balaam answered and said to Balak, “Did I not tell you, saying, ‘Whatsoever thing God shall speak to me, that will I do?’”

Num_23:26  καὶ ἀποκριθεὶς Βαλααμ εἶπεν τῷ Βαλακ Οὐκ ἐλάλησά σοι λέγων Τὸ ῥῆμα, ὃ ἐὰν λαλήσῃ ὁ θεός, τοῦτο ποιήσω;

 

Monotheism Don’t Play with Sorcery

Num_23:23 WEB  Surely there is no enchantment with Jacob; Neither is there any divination with Israel. Now it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What has God done!

Num_23:23 For there is no divination in Jacob, nor enchantment in Israel; in season it shall be told to Jacob and Israel what God shall perform.

Num_23:23  οὐ γάρ ἐστιν οἰωνισμὸς ἐν Ιακωβ οὐδὲ μαντεία ἐν Ισραηλ· κατὰ καιρὸν ῥηθήσεται Ιακωβ καὶ τῷ Ισραηλ, τί ἐπιτελέσει ὁ θεός.

 

Lev_19:26

 

Num_24:1 WEB  When Balaam saw that it pleased Yahweh to bless Israel, he didn't go, as at the other times, to meet with enchantments, but he set his face toward the wilderness.

Num_24:1 LB  Now when Balaam saw that it pleased God to bless Israel, he did not go according to his custom, to seek to use sorcery, but turned his face toward the wilderness.

Num_24:1  καὶ ἰδὼν Βαλααμ ὅτι καλόν ἐστιν ἔναντι κυρίου εὐλογεῖν τὸν Ισραηλ, οὐκ ἐπορεύθη κατὰ τὸ εἰωθὸς εἰς συνάντησιν τοῖς οἰωνοῖς καὶ ἀπέστρεψεν τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ εἰς τὴν ἔρημον.

 

Num_24:10 WEB  Balak's anger was kindled against Balaam, and he struck his hands together; and Balak said to Balaam, I called you to curse my enemies, and, behold, you have altogether blessed them these three times.

Num_24:10 And Balak was angry with Balaam, and clapped his hands together. And Balak said to Balaam, “I called you to curse my enemy, and behold you have decidedly blessed him this third time.

Num_24:10  καὶ ἐθυμώθη Βαλακ ἐπὶ Βαλααμ καὶ συνεκρότησεν ταῖς χερσὶν αὐτοῦ, καὶ εἶπεν Βαλακ πρὸς Βαλααμ Καταρᾶσθαι τὸν ἐχθρόν μου κέκληκά σε, καὶ ἰδοὺ εὐλογῶν εὐλόγησας τρίτον τοῦτο·

Num_24:11 WEB  Therefore now flee you to your place: I thought to promote you to great honor; but, behold, Yahweh has kept you back from honor.

Num_24:11 Now therefore flee to your place. I said, I will honor you, but now the Lord has deprived you of glory.”

Num_24:11  νῦν οὖν φεῦγε εἰς τὸν τόπον σου· εἶπα Τιμήσω σε, καὶ νῦν ἐστέρησέν σε κύριος τῆς δόξης.

Num_24:12 WEB  Balaam said to Balak, Didn't I also tell your messengers who you sent to me, saying,

Num_24:12 And Balaam said to Balak, “Did I not speak to your messengers also whom you sent to me, saying,

Num_24:12  καὶ εἶπεν Βαλααμ πρὸς Βαλακ Οὐχὶ καὶ τοῖς ἀγγέλοις σου, οὓς ἀπέστειλας πρός με, ἐλάλησα λέγων

Num_24:13 WEB  If Balak would give me his house full of silver and gold, I can't go beyond the word of Yahweh, to do either good or bad of my own mind; what Yahweh speaks, that will I speak?

Num_24:13 ‘If Balak should give me his house full of silver and gold, I shall not be able to transgress the word of the Lord, to make it good or bad by myself; whatsoever things God shall say, them will I speak.’

Num_24:13  Ἐάν μοι δῷ Βαλακ πλήρη τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ ἀργυρίου καὶ χρυσίου, οὐ δυνήσομαι παραβῆναι τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου ποιῆσαι αὐτὸ πονηρὸν ἢ καλὸν παρ᾿ ἐμαυτοῦ· ὅσα ἐὰν εἴπῃ ὁ θεός, ταῦτα ἐρῶ;

 

Num_24:15 WEB  He took up his parable, and said, Balaam the son of Beor says, the man whose eye was closed says;

Num_24:15 Balaam’s Fourth Oracle And he took up his parable and said, “The utterance of Balaam the son of Beor, the man whose eyes are truly open,

Num_24:15  Καὶ ἀναλαβὼν τὴν παραβολὴν αὐτοῦ εἶπεν Φησὶν Βαλααμ υἱὸς Βεωρ, φησὶν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ὁ ἀληθινῶς ὁρῶν,

Num_24:16 WEB  he says, who hears the words of God, knows the knowledge of the Most High, and who sees the vision of the Almighty, Falling down, and having his eyes open:

Num_24:16 who hears the oracles of God, who receives knowledge from the Most High, and has seen a vision of God in sleep; his eyes were opened.

Num_24:16  ἀκούων λόγια θεοῦ, ἐπιστάμενος ἐπιστήμην παρὰ ὑψίστου καὶ ὅρασιν θεοῦ ἰδὼν ἐν ὕπνῳ, ἀποκεκαλυμμένοι οἱ ὀφθαλμοὶ αὐτοῦ

 

 

 

 

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Monotheism is about doing what is outside of your own nature

6/3/17

 

To get the right voice, you have to be doing something that is definitely not what you can come up with in your own head.

 

Num_9:6 WEB  There were certain men, who were unclean because of the dead body of a man, so that they could not keep the Passover on that day, and they came before Moses and before Aaron on that day.

Num_9:6 LB And there came men who were unclean by reason of a dead body, and they were not able to keep the Passover on that day; and they came before Moses and Aaron on that day.

Num_9:6  Καὶ παρεγένοντο οἱ ἄνδρες, οἳ ἦσαν ἀκάθαρτοι ἐπὶ ψυχῇ ἀνθρώπου καὶ οὐκ ἠδύναντο ποιῆσαι τὸ πασχα ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ἐκείνῃ, καὶ προσῆλθον ἐναντίον Μωυσῆ καὶ Ααρων ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ,

Num_9:7 WEB  Those men said to him, "We are unclean because of the dead body of a man. Why are we kept back, that we may not offer the offering of Yahweh in its appointed season among the children of Israel?"

Num_9:7 And those men said to Moses, “We are unclean by reason of the dead body of a man: shall we therefore fail to offer the gift to the Lord in its season in the midst of the children of Israel?”

Num_9:7  καὶ εἶπαν οἱ ἄνδρες ἐκεῖνοι πρὸς αὐτόν Ἡμεῖς ἀκάθαρτοι ἐπὶ ψυχῇ ἀνθρώπου· μὴ οὖν ὑστερήσωμεν προσενέγκαι τὸ δῶρον κυρίῳ κατὰ καιρὸν αὐτοῦ ἐν μέσῳ υἱῶν Ισραηλ;

Num_9:8 WEB  Moses answered them, "Wait, that I may hear what Yahweh will command concerning you."

Num_9:8 And Moses said to them, “Stand there, and I will hear what command the Lord will give concerning you.”

Num_9:8  καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτοὺς Μωυσῆς Στῆτε αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἀκούσομαι, τί ἐντελεῖται κύριος περὶ ὑμῶν. --

Num_9:9 WEB  Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,

Num_9:9 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,

Num_9:9  καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγων

Num_9:10 WEB  "Say to the children of Israel, 'If any man of you or of your generations is unclean by reason of a dead body, or is on a journey far away, he shall still keep the Passover to Yahweh.

Num_9:10 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying, ‘Whatever man shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or on a journey far off, among you, or among your posterity; he shall then keep the Passover to the Lord,

Num_9:10  Λάλησον τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ λέγων Ἄνθρωπος ἄνθρωπος, ὃς ἐὰν γένηται ἀκάθαρτος ἐπὶ ψυχῇ ἀνθρώπου ἢ ἐν ὁδῷ μακρὰν ὑμῖν ἢ ἐν ταῖς γενεαῖς ὑμῶν, καὶ ποιήσει τὸ πασχα κυρίῳ·

>> Sync: RAS | DHG

 

Lap Communication

Real Monotheists Are in Subjection

12/14/16; 6/3/17

 

Abraham wandering while waiting for the next word…

 

No On-Demand Prophecy

Exo_10:26 – no "prophecy on-demand"

>> real monotheists are subjected to a clean voice outside of them, to which they must maintain continual submission.

 

 

Num_9:18 WEB  At the commandment of Yahweh, the children of Israel traveled, and at the commandment of Yahweh they encamped. As long as the cloud remained on the tabernacle they remained encamped.

Num_9:18 LB  The children of Israel shall encamp by the command of the Lord, and by the command of the Lord they shall journey; all the days in which the cloud overshadows the tabernacle, the children of Israel shall encamp.

Num_9:18  διὰ προστάγματος κυρίου παρεμβαλοῦσιν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ καὶ διὰ προστάγματος κυρίου ἀπαροῦσιν· πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας, ἐν αἷς σκιάζει ἡ νεφέλη ἐπὶ τῆς σκηνῆς, παρεμβαλοῦσιν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ·

Num_9:19 WEB  When the cloud stayed on the tabernacle many days, then the children of Israel kept Yahweh's command, and didn't travel.

Num_9:19 And whenever the cloud shall be drawn over the tabernacle for many days, then the children of Israel shall keep the command of God, and they shall not journey.

Num_9:19  καὶ ὅταν ἐφέλκηται ἡ νεφέλη ἐπὶ τῆς σκηνῆς ἡμέρας πλείους, καὶ φυλάξονται οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ τὴν φυλακὴν τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ οὐ μὴ ἐξάρωσιν·

Num_9:20 WEB  Sometimes the cloud was a few days on the tabernacle; then according to the commandment of Yahweh they remained encamped, and according to the commandment of Yahweh they traveled.

Num_9:20 And it shall be, whenever the cloud overshadows the tabernacle a number of days, they shall encamp by the word of the Lord, and shall journey by the command of the Lord.

Num_9:20  καὶ ἔσται ὅταν σκεπάσῃ ἡ νεφέλη ἡμέρας ἀριθμῷ ἐπὶ τῆς σκηνῆς, διὰ φωνῆς κυρίου παρεμβαλοῦσιν καὶ διὰ προστάγματος κυρίου ἀπαροῦσιν·

Num_9:21 WEB  Sometimes the cloud was from evening until morning; and when the cloud was taken up in the morning, they traveled: or by day and by night, when the cloud was taken up, they traveled.

Num_9:21 And it shall come to pass, whenever the cloud shall remain from the evening till the morning, and in the morning the cloud shall go up, then shall they journey by day or by night.

Num_9:21  καὶ ἔσται ὅταν γένηται ἡ νεφέλη ἀφ᾿ ἑσπέρας ἕως πρωὶ καὶ ἀναβῇ ἡ νεφέλη τὸ πρωί, καὶ ἀπαροῦσιν ἡμέρας ἢ νυκτός·

Num_9:22 WEB  Whether it was two days, or a month, or a year that the cloud stayed on the tabernacle, remaining on it, the children of Israel remained encamped, and didn't travel; but when it was taken up, they traveled.

Num_9:22 When the cloud continues a full month overshadowing the tabernacle, the children of Israel shall encamp, and shall not depart.

Num_9:22  μηνὸς ἡμέρας πλεοναζούσης τῆς νεφέλης σκιαζούσης ἐπ᾿ αὐτῆς παρεμβαλοῦσιν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ καὶ οὐ μὴ ἀπάρωσιν.

Num_9:23 WEB  At the commandment of Yahweh they encamped, and at the commandment of Yahweh they traveled. They kept Yahweh's command, at the commandment of Yahweh by Moses.

Num_9:23 For they shall depart by the command of the Lord: they kept the charge of the Lord by the command of the Lord by the hand of Moses.

Num_9:23  ὅτι διὰ προστάγματος κυρίου ἀπαροῦσιν, τὴν φυλακὴν κυρίου ἐφυλάξαντο διὰ προστάγματος κυρίου ἐν χειρὶ Μωυσῆ.

 

>> Also see next chapter, when they actually left.

 

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Satan Worshipers

See: lo

 

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Perceiving Things in Prayer

Col_2:5  CAB  ·For though indeed [εἰ γὰρ καὶ – because if also] I am absent [ἄπειμι] in the flesh, yet [ἀλλὰ] ·I am [being] [εἰμι] ·[together] with [σὺν] you in [the (τῷ)] spirit, rejoicing [χαίρων] [and (καὶ)] to see [βλέπων – seeing] [that of (τὴν)] your orderliness [τάξιν – arrangement] and the steadfastness [στερέωμα – established/“confirmed”/“standing”] of [that of (τῆς)] your faith in[to] [εἰς] Christ [Χριστὸν – anointed one].

Col_2:5  εἰ γὰρ καὶ τῇ σαρκὶ ἄπειμι, ἀλλὰ τῷ πνεύματι σὺν ὑμῖν εἰμι, χαίρων καὶ βλέπων ὑμῶν τὴν τάξιν καὶ τὸ στερέωμα τῆς εἰς Χριστὸν πίστεως ὑμῶν.

>> Sync: DHG | Lov | ROW > Logos > Arrangement

 

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God Left Samson!

5/26/17; 5/28/17

>> Sync: Lov | DHG

Jdg_16:20 WEB  She said, The Philistines are on you, Samson. He awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times, and ·shake myself free [ואנער]. But he didn't know that Yahweh had departed from him.

Jdg_16:20 LB And Delilah said, “The Philistines are upon you, Sampson.” And he awoke out of his sleep and said, “I will go out [JdgA: and do (ποιήσω)] ·as at former times [JdgA (ABP): καθώς as αεί continually before; JdgB: ὡς ἅπαξ καὶ ἅπαξ], and ·shake myself [JdgA (ABP): αποτινάξομαι G660 I shall brush myself off – NETS: shake myself free; JdgB: ἐκτιναχθήσομαι – NETS: Will be shaken free]”; and he did not know [ἔγνω] that the Lord had departed from him [JdgA (ABP): απέστη G868 left απ' G575 from αυτού G1473 him; JdgB: ἀπέστη ὁ κύριος ἀπάνωθεν αὐτοῦ -- απέστη = Lex: ἀφίστημι = ἀπό + ἵστημι (“to stand” -- Strong’s)].

Jdg_16:20  καὶ εἶπεν Δαλιδα Ἀλλόφυλοι ἐπὶ σέ, Σαμψων. καὶ ἐξυπνίσθη ἐκ τοῦ ὕπνου αὐτοῦ καὶ εἶπεν Ἐξελεύσομαι ὡς ἅπαξ καὶ ἅπαξ καὶ ἐκτιναχθήσομαι· καὶ αὐτὸς οὐκ ἔγνω ὅτι ἀπέστη ὁ κύριος ἀπάνωθεν αὐτοῦ.

Jdg_16:21 WEB  The Philistines laid hold on him, and put out his eyes; and they brought him down to Gaza, and bound him with fetters of brass; and he ground at the mill in the prison.

Jdg_16:21 And the Philistines took him, and put out his eyes, and brought him down to Gaza, and bound him with fetters of brass; and he became a grinder in the prison house.

Jdg_16:21  καὶ ἐκράτησαν αὐτὸν οἱ ἀλλόφυλοι καὶ ἐξέκοψαν τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτοῦ· καὶ κατήνεγκαν αὐτὸν εἰς Γάζαν καὶ ἐπέδησαν αὐτὸν ἐν πέδαις χαλκείαις, καὶ ἦν ἀλήθων ἐν οἴκῳ τοῦ δεσμωτηρίου.

 

Note: Samson’s spiritual eyes did not perceive, and his physical ones were also put out.

We got to grab hold of Truth to make sure we feel and care and respond faithfully to absence!

 

See: Pulpit on Jdg_16:20

 

TSK: I will go: Jdg_16:3, Jdg_16:9, Jdg_16:14, Deu_32:30, Isa_42:24, Hos_7:9

 

Hos_7:9 WEB  Strangers have devoured his strength, and he doesn't realize it. Indeed, gray hairs are here and there on him, and he doesn't realize it.

Hos_7:9 LB Strangers devoured his strength, but he did not know it; yes, gray hairs came upon him, yet he did not know it.

Hos_7:9  κατέφαγον ἀλλότριοι τὴν ἰσχὺν αὐτοῦ, αὐτὸς δὲ οὐκ ἐπέγνω· καὶ πολιαὶ ἐξήνθησαν αὐτῷ, καὶ αὐτὸς οὐκ ἔγνω.

 

 

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Intensions, Sincerity, Motives, Poverty

5/14/17

>> where is the earlier typing of this? got lost?

 

Sincerity is never praised in the Bible, despite all of the insanity foolishly promoted by English bible versions.

 

 

Heb_4:12 For the word of God is living and effectual, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner [κριτικὸς] of the thoughts [ἐνθυμήσεων] and intentions [ἐννοιῶν] of the heart.

Heb_4:12  Ζῶν γὰρ ὁ λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ ἐνεργὴς καὶ τομώτερος ὑπὲρ πᾶσαν μάχαιραν δίστομον καὶ διϊκνούμενος ἄχρι μερισμοῦ ψυχῆς τε καὶ πνεύματος, ἁρμῶν τε καὶ μυελῶν, καὶ κριτικὸς ἐνθυμήσεων καὶ ἐννοιῶν καρδίας·

 

i.e. not the knowledge / “brain” of your head, but the “brains” of your heart!

hypocrisy is an inconsistency between your head and your heart. 5/14/17

If you are a hypocrite (that is, with inconsistency between your head and your heart), you are in deep trouble.

 

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4/15/17

Lev_20:24 WEB  But I have said to you, "You shall inherit their land, and I will give it to you to possess it, a land flowing with milk and honey." I am Yahweh your God, who has separated you from the peoples.

Lev_20:24 LB  and I said to you, ‘You shall inherit their land, and I will give it to you for a possession, a land flowing with milk and honey’: I am the Lord your God, who has separated you from all people.

Lev_20:24  καὶ εἶπα ὑμῖν Ὑμεῖς κληρονομήσατε τὴν γῆν αὐτῶν, καὶ ἐγὼ δώσω ὑμῖν αὐτὴν ἐν κτήσει, γῆν ῥέουσαν γάλα καὶ μέλι· ἐγὼ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν, ὃς διώρισα ὑμᾶς ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἐθνῶν.

Lev_20:25 WEB  " 'You shall therefore make a distinction between the clean animal and the unclean, and between the unclean fowl and the clean: and you shall not make yourselves abominable by animal, or by bird, or by anything with which the ground teems, which I have separated from you as unclean for you.

Lev_20:25 And you shall make a distinction between the clean and the unclean cattle, and between clean and unclean birds; and you shall not defile your souls with cattle, or with birds, or with any creeping things of the earth, which I have separated for you by reason of uncleanness.

Lev_20:25  καὶ ἀφοριεῖτε αὐτοὺς ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν κτηνῶν τῶν καθαρῶν καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν κτηνῶν τῶν ἀκαθάρτων καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν πετεινῶν τῶν καθαρῶν καὶ τῶν ἀκαθάρτων καὶ οὐ βδελύξετε τὰς ψυχὰς ὑμῶν ἐν τοῖς κτήνεσιν καὶ ἐν τοῖς πετεινοῖς καὶ ἐν πᾶσιν τοῖς ἑρπετοῖς τῆς γῆς, ἃ ἐγὼ ἀφώρισα ὑμῖν ἐν ἀκαθαρσίᾳ.

Lev_20:26 WEB  You shall be holy to me: for I, Yahweh, am holy, and have set you apart from the peoples, that you should be mine.

Lev_20:26 And you shall be holy to Me; because I the Lord your God am holy, who separated you from all nations, to be Mine.

Lev_20:26  καὶ ἔσεσθέ μοι ἅγιοι, ὅτι ἐγὼ ἅγιος κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν ὁ ἀφορίσας ὑμᾶς ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἐθνῶν εἶναι ἐμοί.

 

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4/5/17

Lev_15:31 WEB  " 'Thus you shall separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, so they will not die in their uncleanness, when they defile my tabernacle that is in their midst.' "

Lev_15:31 LB  ‘And you shall cause the children of Israel to beware of their uncleanness, so they shall not die for their uncleanness, in polluting My tabernacle that is among them.

Lev_15:31  Καὶ εὐλαβεῖς ποιήσετε τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ ἀπὸ τῶν ἀκαθαρσιῶν αὐτῶν, καὶ οὐκ ἀποθανοῦνται διὰ τὴν ἀκαθαρσίαν αὐτῶν ἐν τῷ μιαίνειν αὐτοὺς τὴν σκηνήν μου τὴν ἐν αὐτοῖς. --

 

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4/4/17

 

Lev_11:46 WEB  " 'This is the law of the animal, and of the bird, and of every living creature that moves in the waters, and of every creature that creeps on the earth,

Lev_11:46 LB  This is the law concerning beasts and birds and every living creature moving in the water, and every living creature creeping on the earth;

Lev_11:46  Οὗτος ὁ νόμος περὶ τῶν κτηνῶν καὶ τῶν πετεινῶν καὶ πάσης ψυχῆς τῆς κινουμένης ἐν τῷ ὕδατι καὶ πάσης ψυχῆς ἑρπούσης ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς

Lev_11:47 WEB  to make a distinction between the unclean and the clean, and between the living thing that may be eaten and the living thing that may not be eaten.' "

Lev_11:47 to distinguish between the unclean and the clean; and between those that bring forth alive, such as should be eaten, and those that bring forth alive, such as should not be eaten.’”

Lev_11:47  διαστεῖλαι ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν ἀκαθάρτων καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν καθαρῶν καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν ζωογονούντων τὰ ἐσθιόμενα καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν ζωογονούντων τὰ μὴ ἐσθιόμενα.

 

4/4/17

 

Lev_13: – Lev_14: -- Leprosy, itch, garment, cleansing leper, house…

 

Lev_14:57 WEB  to teach when it is unclean, and when it is clean.  This is the law of leprosy.

Lev_14:57 LB  and of declaring in what day it is unclean, and in what day it shall be purged: this is the law of the leprosy.”

Lev_14:57  καὶ τοῦ ἐξηγήσασθαι ᾗ ἡμέρᾳ ἀκάθαρτον καὶ ᾗ ἡμέρᾳ καθαρισθήσεται· οὗτος ὁ νόμος τῆς λέπρας.

 

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Lev_10:9 WEB  "Drink no wine nor strong drink, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the Tent of Meeting, that you don't die: it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations:

Lev_10:9 LB “You shall not drink wine nor strong drink, you and your sons with you, whenever you enter into the tabernacle of witness, or when you approach the altar, so shall you not die; it is a perpetual statute for your generations,

Lev_10:9  Οἶνον καὶ σικερα οὐ πίεσθε, σὺ καὶ οἱ υἱοί σου μετὰ σοῦ, ἡνίκα ἂν εἰσπορεύησθε εἰς τὴν σκηνὴν τοῦ μαρτυρίου, ἢ προσπορευομένων ὑμῶν πρὸς τὸ θυσιαστήριον, καὶ οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνητε (νόμιμον αἰώνιον εἰς τὰς γενεὰς ὑμῶν)

Lev_10:10 WEB  and that you are to make a distinction between the holy and the common, and between the unclean and the clean;

Lev_10:10 to distinguish between sacred and profane, and between clean and unclean,

Lev_10:10  διαστεῖλαι ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν ἁγίων καὶ τῶν βεβήλων καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τῶν ἀκαθάρτων καὶ τῶν καθαρῶν.

>> Sync: EFF | SPI

 

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1Ki_13:1-32 – An unnamed Prophet Who Was Killed By a Lion After Making a Mistake / Not listening to what God had individually/personally told him

>> Dis | GCA | SPI

 

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I care About H's Ability To Discern

2/28/17; 3/5/17

·         sincerity-based compassion

 

 

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3/7/17

Gal_4:18 Greek  καλὸν δὲ τὸ ζηλοῦσθαι ἐν καλῷ πάντοτε καὶ μὴ μόνον ἐν τῷ παρεῖναί με πρὸς ὑμᾶς.

>> Sync: SPI | Fir <> (Lov?) | BBMD

See: Repent of Zeal > Love is not Zealous -- Pop: Zeal

 

If you are a zealous in a bad thing, it disconnects you.

 

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Denis Warning -- September 2005

1/13/03 (Word: Created); 9/14/05 (Word: Modified & Printed); 3/7/17 (recompiled)

 

“…The lords really been showing me… [pause] well, here we go again… the lords really been showing me… [this that and the other],” (Dennis Dixion 8/27/05; Saturday night at Jason an Kristen’s house).

This is what Denis said after I had given the warning in the previous conversation about using God’s name in vain after another conversation had started.  He directly displayed the continued signs of addiction and unrepentance. The “pause” was when he realized that he was returning to the controversy of the previous conversation.  This is how it has always been with Denis when waiting for him to get all the way obedient to God.  This same scenario has replayed a number of times.

- I’m not asking you to make a call about salvation, as much as I am asking for an acknowledgement of a clearly observable danger and continued sin.

- Nonetheless, what “discernment” is involved is not based on annoyance (as with Mk Sr.) but on reverence.

- I’m asking for eyes of wisdom

Pro_14:15 MKJV  The simple believes every word, but the wise man watches his step.

Pro_20:6 MKJV  Most men will proclaim each his own goodness, but a faithful man who can find?

There is serious danger in declaring your own goodness; This is what Denis is addicted to when he says, “The lords really been showing me.”

This verse indirectly applies:

Pro_25:14 MKJV  A man boasting himself in a false gift is like clouds and wind, but no rain.

For all practicality, I don’t think that Denis can bring up any charge of harshness from me apart from an insistence on no vain boasting of hearing God.

[Remember What it said of “Presumptuous Prophets” Deu_18:20]

 

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Disciples: we see that you know everything

 

John: You have an Anointing from holy one and know all things

 

Paul: We have mind of anointed one

 

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Jeremiah S. Rose -- 3/7/17

Yesterday at 11:20am ·

 

ALL KNOWING CHRISTIANS?

 

God could give us the ability to know all things but He does not. I think he does this so that we will not get lifted up in pride. No one knows all things. Christians that teach that we should not have any fellowship with true Christians that are a part of the body are lifted in pride.

 

Romans 12: 3 For by the grace given to me I say to every one of you not to think more highly of yourself than you ought to think, but to think with sober discernment, as God has distributed to each of you a measure of faith.

 

4 For just as in one body we have many members, and not all the members serve the same function,

 

5 so we who are many are one body in Christ, and individually we are members who belong to one another.

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1 Corinthians_12:12 For just as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body – though many – are one body, so too is Christ.

 

13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free, we were all made to drink of the one Spirit.

 

14 For in fact the body is not a single member, but many.

 

15 If the foot says, “Since I am not a hand, I am not part of the body,” it does not lose its membership in the body because of that.

 

16 And if the ear says, “Since I am not an eye, I am not part of the body,” it does not lose its membership in the body because of that.

 

17 If the whole body were an eye, what part would do the hearing? If the whole were an ear, what part would exercise the sense of smell?

 

18 But as a matter of fact, God has placed each of the members in the body just as he decided.

 

19 If they were all the same member, where would the body be?

 

20 So now there are many members, but one body.

 

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you,” nor in turn can the head say to the foot, “I do not need you.”

 

22 On the contrary, those members that seem to be weaker are essential,

 

23 and those members we consider less honorable we clothe with greater honor, and our unpresentable members are clothed with dignity,

 

24 but our presentable members do not need this. Instead, God has blended together the body, giving greater honor to the lesser member,

 

25 so that there may be no division in the body, but the members may have mutual concern for one another.

 

26 If one member suffers, everyone suffers with it. If a member is honored, all rejoice with it.

 

27 Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you is a member of it.

 

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Elliott Nesch For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

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Jaime H. Rivera Spiritual pride L

 

 

 

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PS 94:11 The LORD knows the thoughts of man; he knows that they are futile.

 

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Justifying The wicked

1/12/04; 3/4/17 (recompiled)

 

Mal_2:17 KJVA  Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

 

Pro_17:15 WEB  He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to Yahweh.

 

-We try to justify people by changing our doctrine instead of Honoring and Loving God.

 

 

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Distinguish SiN

Josiahs Scott    

11-3-01 (Sat); 3/4/17 (recompiled)

 

Flatery = Blindness:

 

Ps 36:2

2 For in his own eyes he flatters himself too much to detect or hate his sin.

(NIV)

 

 

Distinguish

 

Heb_5:11-14

11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn.

12In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!

13Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

(NIV)

 

 

 

Levite responsibility:

 

Lev_10:8-11

8 Then the LORD said to Aaron,

9"You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come.

10You must distinguish between the holy and the common, between the unclean and the clean,

11and you must teach the Israelites all the decrees the LORD has given them through Moses."

(NIV)

 

==> See Highlights from 1John CHs 1-3

 

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https://qz.com/778767/to-tell-someone-theyre-wrong-first-tell-them-how-theyre-right/?utm_source=kwfb&kwp_0=338025

 

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9/27/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

Obeying and quoting the Bible all the time makes you perceptive:

Jos_1:8, etc.

 

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2/4/17

>>Scrip:

Joh_4: You worship what you do not know

 

This can even be partly the case with those who believe the truth.

It is very sad, but a painful yearning is on the soul of those who love the truth.

 

The motivation of This pain is the entire ambition that perception dares to alleviate.

 

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1/31/17

 

Exo_35:35 WEB  He has filled them with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of workmanship, of the engraver, of the skillful workman, and of the embroiderer, in blue, in purple, in scarlet, and in fine linen, and of the weaver, even of those who do any workmanship, and of those who make skillful works.

Exo_35:35 LB And God filled them with wisdom, understanding, and perception, to understand to work all the works of the sanctuary, and to weave the woven and embroidered work with scarlet and fine linen, to do all work of curious workmanship and embroidery.

Exo_35:35  ἐνέπλησεν αὐτοὺς σοφίας καὶ συνέσεως διανοίας πάντα συνιέναι ποιῆσαι τὰ ἔργα τοῦ ἁγίου καὶ τὰ ὑφαντὰ καὶ ποικιλτὰ ὑφᾶναι τῷ κοκκίνῳ καὶ τῇ βύσσῳ ποιεῖν πᾶν ἔργον ἀρχιτεκτονίας ποικιλίας.

 

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Perception Leads Toward Change

1/1/17

it knows the pressure point of yearning Justice...

 

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1/8/17

Exo_28:3 WEB  You shall speak to all who are wise-hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they make Aaron's garments to sanctify him, that he may minister to me in the priest's office.

Exo_28:3 CAB  And speak to all those who are wise in understanding, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom and perception; and they shall make the holy apparel of Aaron for the sanctuary, in which he shall minister to Me as priest.

Exo_28:3  καὶ σὺ λάλησον πᾶσι τοῖς σοφοῖς τῇ διανοίᾳ, οὓς ἐνέπλησα πνεύματος αἰσθήσεως, καὶ ποιήσουσιν τὴν στολὴν τὴν ἁγίαν Ααρων εἰς τὸ ἅγιον, ἐν ᾗ ἱερατεύσει μοι.

 

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12/6/16

 

 

 

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12/3/16

 

 

Exo_2:2 WEB  The woman conceived, and bore a son. When she saw that he was a fine child, she hid him three months.

Exo_2:2 CAB  And she conceived, and bore a male child; and having seen that he was fair, they hid him three months.

Exo_2:2  καὶ ἐν γαστρὶ ἔλαβεν καὶ ἔτεκεν ἄρσεν· ἰδόντες δὲ αὐτὸ ἀστεῖον ἐσκέπασαν αὐτὸ μῆνας τρεῖς.

 

Act_7:20 CAB   At this time Moses was born, and he was well pleasing to God; who was brought up in his father's house for three months.

Act_7:20  ἐν ᾧ καιρῷ ἐγεννήθη Μωϋσῆς, καὶ ἦν ἀστεῖος τῷ Θεῷ· ὃς ἀνετράφη μῆνας τρεῖς ἐν τῷ οἴκῳ τοῦ πατρός αὐτοῦ.

 

Heb_11:23 CAB  By faith Moses, when he was born, was hidden three months by his parents, because they saw a beautiful child; and they did not fear the edict of the king.

Heb_11:23  Πίστει Μωϋσῆς γεννηθεὶς ἐκρύβη τρίμηνον ὑπὸ τῶν πατέρων αὐτοῦ, διότι εἶδον ἀστεῖον τὸ παιδίον, καὶ οὐκ ἐφοβήθησαν τὸ διάταγμα τοῦ βασιλέως.

 

 

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11/24/16

1Th_2:3  CAB  For our exhortation [is] not of error, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:

1Th_2:3  η γαρ παρακλησις ημων ουκ εκ πλανης ουδε εξ ακαθαρσιας Aουδε TSBουτε εν δολω

 

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Principles of withdrawal

>> See: Lov !!!!

 

Not About Sincerity & Good Intentions

11/11/16

 

The Bible very clearly testifies against church people saying:

 

Hos_5:6 WEB  They will go with their flocks and with their herds to seek Yahweh; but they won't find him. He has withdrawnH2502 himself from them.

Hos_5:6 CAB  They shall go [πορεύσονται] with [μετὰ] sheep and calves ·diligently to seek [out] [τοῦ ἐκζητῆσαι] the Lord; but they shall not find Him [οὐ μὴ εὕρωσιν αὐτόν], for He has withdrawn Himself from them [ἐξέκλινεν ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν – bent/slanted from them; fig. shunned/declined].

Hos_5:6  μετὰ προβάτων καὶ μόσχων πορεύσονται τοῦ ἐκζητῆσαι τὸν κύριον καὶ οὐ μὴ εὕρωσιν αὐτόν, ὅτι ἐξέκλινεν ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν,

Hos_5:7 WEB  They are unfaithful to Yahweh; for they have borne illegitimateH2114 [זרים (Lexical: זוּר) – turned asside / starnge] children. Now ·the new moon [KJV: a month] willH2320 [“חדשׁ”] devour them with their fields [flat-ness?].

Hos_5:7 CAB  For they have forsaken [ἐγκατέλιπον (same as 2Ch_32:31 with Hezekiah)] the Lord; for strange [ἀλλότρια – lit. other] children [τέκνα] have been born [ἐγεννήθησαν] to them: now [νῦν] shall the cankerworm [ἡ ἐρυσίβη – ABP: blight*] devour [καταφάγεται] them and their heritage [κλήρους].

Hos_5:7  ὅτι τὸν κύριον ἐγκατέλιπον, ὅτι τέκνα ἀλλότρια ἐγεννήθησαν αὐτοῖς· νῦν καταφάγεται αὐτοὺς ἡ ἐρυσίβη καὶ τοὺς κλήρους αὐτῶν.

[* “blight” = “a plant disease, especially one caused by fungi such as mildews, rusts, and smuts” (Google / Oxford American College Dictionary?)]

>> See: LUX | Lov | DHG | FamC (partly)

>> See: Pop: dhg -- for all the context!

>> update formatting LUX > DHG

 

 

 

Hos_7:9 WEB  Strangers have devoured his strength, and he doesn't realize it. Indeed, gray hairs are here and there on him, and he doesn't realize it.

Hos_7:9 LB Strangers [ἀλλότριοι] devoured [κατέφαγον] his strength [ἰσχὺν], but he did not [δὲ οὐκ] know [ἐπέγνω] it; yes [καὶ], gray hairs came upon him [πολιαὶ ἐξήνθησαν αὐτῷ], yet he did not [οὐκ] know it [ἔγνω].

Hos_7:9  κατέφαγον ἀλλότριοι τὴν ἰσχὺν αὐτοῦ, αὐτὸς δὲ οὐκ ἐπέγνω· καὶ πολιαὶ ἐξήνθησαν αὐτῷ, καὶ αὐτὸς οὐκ ἔγνω.

Hos_7:10 The pride of Israel testifies to his face; yet they haven't returned to Yahweh their God, nor sought him, for all this.

Hos_7:10 And the pride of Israel shall be brought down before his face; yet they have not returned to the Lord their God, neither have they diligently sought Him for all this.

Hos_7:10  καὶ ταπεινωθήσεται ἡ ὕβρις Ισραηλ εἰς πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐκ ἐπέστρεψαν πρὸς κύριον τὸν θεὸν αὐτῶν καὶ οὐκ ἐξεζήτησαν αὐτὸν ἐν πᾶσι τούτοις.

Hos_7:11 "Ephraim is like an easily deceived dove, without understanding. They call to Egypt. They go to Assyria.

Hos_7:11 Futile Reliance on the Nations “And Ephraim was as a silly dove, not having a heart: he called to Egypt, and they went to the Assyrians.

Hos_7:11  καὶ ἦν Εφραιμ ὡς περιστερὰ ἄνους οὐκ ἔχουσα καρδίαν· Αἴγυπτον ἐπεκαλεῖτο καὶ εἰς Ἀσσυρίους ἐπορεύθησαν.

Hos_7:12 When they go, I will spread my net on them. I will bring them down like the birds of the sky. I will chastise them, as their congregation has heard.

Hos_7:12 Whenever they shall go, I will cast My net upon them; I will bring them down as the birds of the sky, I will chasten them with the rumor of their coming [?] affliction.

Hos_7:12  καθὼς ἂν πορεύωνται, ἐπιβαλῶ ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς τὸ δίκτυόν μου· καθὼς τὰ πετεινὰ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ κατάξω αὐτούς, παιδεύσω αὐτοὺς ἐν τῇ ἀκοῇ τῆς θλίψεως αὐτῶν.

Hos_7:13 Woe to them! For they have wandered from me. Destruction to them! For they have trespassed against me. Though I would redeem them, yet they have spoken lies against me.

Hos_7:13 “Woe to them! For they have started aside from Me: they are cowards; for they have sinned against Me; yet I redeemed them, but they spoke falsehoods against Me.

Hos_7:13  οὐαὶ αὐτοῖς, ὅτι ἀπεπήδησαν ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ· δείλαιοί εἰσιν, ὅτι ἠσέβησαν εἰς ἐμέ· ἐγὼ δὲ ἐλυτρωσάμην αὐτούς, αὐτοὶ δὲ κατελάλησαν κατ᾿ ἐμοῦ ψεύδη.

Hos_7:14 They haven't cried to me with their heart, but they howl on their beds. They assemble themselves for grain and new wine. They turn away from me.

Hos_7:14 And their hearts did not cry to Me, but they howled on their beds; they pined for oil and wine.

Hos_7:14  καὶ οὐκ ἐβόησαν πρός με αἱ καρδίαι αὐτῶν, ἀλλ᾿ ἢ ὠλόλυζον ἐν ταῖς κοίταις αὐτῶν· ἐπὶ σίτῳ καὶ οἴνῳ κατετέμνοντο. ἐπαιδεύθησαν ἐν ἐμοί,

Hos_7:15 Though I have taught and strengthened their arms, yet they plot evil against me.

Hos_7:15 They were instructed by Me, and I strengthened their arms; and they devised evils against Me.

Hos_7:15  κἀγὼ κατίσχυσα τοὺς βραχίονας αὐτῶν, καὶ εἰς ἐμὲ ἐλογίσαντο πονηρά.

Hos_7:16 They return, but not to the Most High. They are like a faulty bow. Their princes will fall by the sword for the rage of their tongue. This will be their derision in the land of Egypt.

Hos_7:16 They turned aside to that which is not, they became as a bent bow. Their princes shall fall by the sword, by reason of the unbridled state of their tongue. This is their setting at nought in the land of Egypt.

Hos_7:16  ἀπεστράφησαν εἰς οὐθέν, ἐγένοντο ὡς τόξον ἐντεταμένον· πεσοῦνται ἐν ῥομφαίᾳ οἱ ἄρχοντες αὐτῶν δι᾿ ἀπαιδευσίαν γλώσσης αὐτῶν· οὕτος ὁ φαυλισμὸς αὐτῶν ἐν γῇ Αἰγύπτῳ.

>> See: Lov | SPI | Greatness > VOY

 

Hos_10:1 WEB  Israel is a luxuriant vine that puts forth his fruit. According to the abundance of his fruit he has multiplied his altars. As their land has prospered, they have adorned their sacred stones.

Hos_10:1 CAB  Israel is a vine with choice branches, her fruit is abundant: according to the multitude of her fruits she has multiplied her altars; according to the wealth of his land, he has set up pillars.

Hos_10:1  Ἄμπελος εὐκληματοῦσα Ισραηλ, ὁ καρπὸς αὐτῆς εὐθηνῶν· κατὰ τὸ πλῆθος τῶν καρπῶν αὐτοῦ ἐπλήθυνεν τὰ θυσιαστήρια, κατὰ τὰ ἀγαθὰ τῆς γῆς αὐτοῦ ᾠκοδόμησεν στήλας.

 

 

 

>> TSK

>>Mal why & Isa 58: why have fasted and you did not notice?

>> when you fasted was it really for me??

 

 

 

 

 

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Discernment & Judging the Church is Going to Be A Big Issue All The Way to The End

11/10/16

Dan_11:33 WEB  Those who are wise among the people shall instruct many; yet they shall fall by the sword and by flame, by captivity and by spoil, many days.

Dan_11:33 CAB  And the intelligent of the people shall understand much; yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, and by captivity, and by the spoil of many days.

Dan_11:33  καὶ οἱ συνετοὶ τοῦ λαοῦ συνήσουσιν εἰς πολλά· καὶ ἀσθενήσουσιν ἐν ῥομφαίᾳ καὶ ἐν φλογὶ καὶ ἐν αἰχμαλωσίᾳ καὶ ἐν διαρπαγῇ ἡμερῶν.

Dan_11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be helped with a little help; but many shall join themselves to them with flatteries.

Dan_11:34 And when they are weak they shall be helped with a little help, but many shall attach themselves to them with treachery.

Dan_11:34  καὶ ἐν τῷ ἀσθενῆσαι αὐτοὺς βοηθηθήσονται βοήθειαν μικράν, καὶ προστεθήσονται ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς πολλοὶ ἐν ὀλισθρήμασιν.

Dan_11:35 Some of those who are wise shall fall, to refine them, and to purify, and to make them white, even to the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

Dan_11:35 And some of them that understand shall fall, to try them as with fire, and to test them, and that they may be manifested at the time of the end, for the matter is yet for an appointed time.

Dan_11:35  καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν συνιέντων ἀσθενήσουσιν τοῦ πυρῶσαι αὐτοὺς καὶ τοῦ ἐκλέξασθαι καὶ τοῦ ἀποκαλυφθῆναι, ἕως καιροῦ πέρας· ὅτι ἔτι εἰς καιρόν.

 

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11/7/16

 

Eze_22:25 WEB  There is a conspiracy of her prophets in its midst, like a roaring lion ravening the prey: they have devoured souls; they take treasure and precious things; they have made her widows many in its midst.

Eze_22:25 CAB  whose princes in the midst of her are as roaring lions seizing prey, devouring souls by oppression, and taking bribes; and your widows are multiplied in the midst of you.

Eze_22:25  ἧς οἱ ἀφηγούμενοι ἐν μέσῳ αὐτῆς ὡς λέοντες ὠρυόμενοι ἁρπάζοντες ἁρπάγματα, ψυχὰς κατεσθίοντες ἐν δυναστείᾳ, τιμὰς λαμβάνοντες ἐν ἀδικίᾳ, καὶ αἱ χῆραί σου ἐπληθύνθησαν ἐν μέσῳ σου.

Eze_22:26 Her priests have done violence to my law, and have profaned my holy things: they have made no distinction between the holy and the common, neither have they caused men to discern between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Eze_22:26 Her priests also have set at nought My law, and profaned My holy things: they have not distinguished between the holy and profane, nor have they distinguished between the unclean and the clean, and have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I was profaned in the midst of them.

Eze_22:26  καὶ οἱ ἱερεῖς αὐτῆς ἠθέτησαν νόμον μου καὶ ἐβεβήλουν τὰ ἅγιά μου· ἀνὰ μέσον ἁγίου καὶ βεβήλου οὐ διέστελλον καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον ἀκαθάρτου καὶ τοῦ καθαροῦ οὐ διέστελλον καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν σαββάτων μου παρεκάλυπτον τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτῶν, καὶ ἐβεβηλούμην ἐν μέσῳ αὐτῶν.

 

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The Flavor of REAL Prophets

11/4/16

 

Iseah: go!

Jeremiah 15 & 20 -- they are very unwilling

>> do not say ‘I am a child’

Moses -- forced to go

 

Micah & Elisha deride the liberal kings of Israel

 

 

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Not About Sincerity

11/4/16

 

Jer_17:9 WEB  The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?

Jer_17:9 CAB  The heart is deep beyond all things, and it constitutes the man, and who can know him?

Jer_17:9  βαθεῖα ἡ καρδία παρὰ πάντα, καὶ ἄνθρωπός ἐστιν· καὶ τίς γνώσεται αὐτόν;

Jer_17:10 I, Yahweh, search the mind, I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Jer_17:10 I, the Lord, search the hearts, and test the mind, to give to everyone according to his ways, and according to the fruits of his doings.

Jer_17:10  ἐγὼ κύριος ἐτάζων καρδίας καὶ δοκιμάζων νεφροὺς τοῦ δοῦναι ἑκάστῳ κατὰ τὰς ὁδοὺς αὐτοῦ καὶ κατὰ τοὺς καρποὺς τῶν ἐπιτηδευμάτων αὐτοῦ. --

>> Sync: SOM | dhg | nofl | Deepness

 

 

From: Scott Schones [mailto:scottschones@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:26 PM
To: Josiahs Scott
Subject: Re: Any Updates on Your Trip So Far?

 

Hi Josiahs. Yes we arrived in Saluda North Carolina. We are now at the campground full time. We are seeking God here for the next step in His will for the advancement of His Kingdom.  We met with a solid fellowship in SW Missouri. They seem to have sincere hearts for the King. We met some sincere seekers as well in Colorado, Illinois and Indiana. We are hungry for the Lord to raise up a testimony of His heart and nature among His people.  We are expectantly waiting and seeking. May His Spirit truly fill your heart with the fullness of His nature, Scott Schones”

 

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Getting Thoughtful

10/25/16

 

Ecc_5:19 WEB  Every man also to whom God has given riches and wealth, and has given him power to eat of it, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labor--this is the gift of God.

Ecc_5:19 CAB  Yea, and as for every man to whom God has given wealth and possessions, and has given to him power to eat thereof, and to receive his portion, and to rejoice in his labor; this is the gift of God.

Ecc_5:19  (5:18) καί γε πᾶς ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ᾧ ἔδωκεν αὐτῷ ὁ θεὸς πλοῦτον καὶ ὑπάρχοντα καὶ ἐξουσίασεν αὐτὸν τοῦ φαγεῖν ἀπ᾿ αὐτοῦ καὶ τοῦ λαβεῖν τὸ μέρος αὐτοῦ καὶ τοῦ εὐφρανθῆναι ἐν μόχθῳ αὐτοῦ, τοῦτο δόμα θεοῦ ἐστιν.

Ecc_5:20 For he shall not often reflect on the days of his life; because God occupies him with the joy of his heart.

Ecc_5:20 For he shall not much remember the days of his life; for God troubles him in the joy of his heart.

Ecc_5:20  (5:19) ὅτι οὐ πολλὰ μνησθήσεται τὰς ἡμέρας τῆς ζωῆς αὐτοῦ· ὅτι ὁ θεὸς περισπᾷ αὐτὸν ἐν εὐφροσύνῃ καρδίας αὐτοῦ.

 

 

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If you stop thinking or go to sleep or die, does your philosophy or spiritual experience die with you?

10/22/16

 

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Control your perception of reality

2/15/16

That we make sure our hearts before him

That we might have strong consolation who have run in hope for a refuge

Jesus being tempted in the wilderness

 

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BBS: Discernment

10/8/14

Without discernment, real discipleship lasts maybe 1 or 2 generations, if not less!

 

Act 20 ...wolves will come

2ti_2:2 ...entrust to faithful men...

 

We cannot afford for the earth to be right back a squre one soon after we die.

 

Jos_:_ -- They served the Lord all the days of Joshua...

 

Without dis., they will be right back to XA disciples in one generation, just as JD was off praying for one of the girls in the corner.

Always had this picture when asking how groups transfer from truth to hypocrisy: Saved person with their hand one someone's shoulder, and they likewise, until you have a foolish virgin putting their hand on a lost person. I would have assumed this took a while and you would wonder who failed and why, but it is immediate because no one loves discernment!

 

(btw: when people say jd never had anything, I don't think they know what I am referring to...)

 

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Discernment & Free spiritedness

9/25/14

Free spiritedness (for lack of a more accurate term) is a proactive, progressive, and energized optomism that is happy about its own sucess without any real awareness of wether or not truth is the basis of its strength.

(btw: Is this loose spiritedness or is it loose soul-ishness?)

Often, as I said in another place, "It will feel and seem like God is talking, but it is profoundly unsound" -- I.e. In this case you are energized with a wreckless "freedom" without taking the necessary steps to assure yourself (and possibly others) of the vital safty the is righteously required for the fun you are about to have.

(This can include self-generated spiritual experiences)

There was a danger of this happening with David when bringing in the arc to Jerusalem, but he responded righteously! After he very carefully determined what obedience was required for the (potentially mysterious) favor of truth to return to the sceen and go with him, only then did he jump back up into celebration. David was quickly willing to limit his happiness to the aproval of truth, and was encouraged when he found a way to more acurately obey, as a bases and prerequisit for his exuberant celebration before the Arc of God.

 

'Free spiritedness' is an oponet to discernment, because it sides with the ideals of the majority and avoids the crying justice of agreeing with what God says. It ignores the ravaging epidemic at hand and pretends that the conservative inhabitions of others (i.e. the reverent minority that hs kept the community in check) are based on meaningless and unnecessary fear, and liberally pretends to be more "free" than prophecy and the testimony of God -- I.e. "all the congregation is holy", "god says don't put your neck under the yoke of babylon", etc...

Note: truth would not be truth and discernment would not be discernment if it reinforced what everyone else already wanted to believe!

 

Note: we could reference all the Scriptures against being liberal, but we are focusing on how to apply these to how this attitude compets with discernment in order to keep turning everyone as far away as possible from God.

 

The main references in this point show how liberalism seeks to defile judgement calls and gloat in murdering perceptions of truth.

 

Put at beginning?... (General Liberal-ness)

MT: "many times you have broken your yoke"

Let us break their yoke in two.

 

 

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Get Perceptive

How to be Perceptive

4/21/14 (original title: How to be Perceptive); 4/23/14; 4/25/14-4/26/14; 5/15/14-5/16/14; 5/31/14; 10/10/14; 2/21/17 (retitled: Get Perceptive)

>> goes in Comm or Discernment??

 

Even if a fool is silent, they will think he is being perceptive

 

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What makes you deep?

7/23/16

how are you able to 'just think' on firey passions and it motivates you?

answer: actuallizing the truth/Scriptures in your life/heart.

it gives you a depth to operate in that is deeper than the artists pallet of imagination.

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be perceptive vs. cheap, irrational, beast-like, perverted ones

6/20/14

 

Pro: fool goes her way... MT: Reduces him to loaf of bread

 

"what about if we get in trouble? What will we do afterward?"

"oh I don't know. I haven't thought about that yet. Don't worry and think so much. Don't you know that 'Girls just want to have fun?'"

 

Living in a maternal world, and you are a cerial girl.

 

What challenging and thoughtful philosophy! I'll bet you thought about that one for a while to write that song!

 

Beast like, irrational, no depth of thought in eyes makes intimacy cheapening.

 

God made humans to be with humans, not animals.

 

Animals don't ever look into your eyes for intimacy. They do not have a rational logos in their soul!

Vs.

Song: With one of your eyes you have ravised me!

 

In every way we should always be excited about each other's logos! Otherwise, we could just get a lot of cats and dogs for pets, and i knew a foolish woman who got a number of worthless (messing) animals and called them her family.

 

Cheapo, worthless girls i have encountered have said i should shave my beard.

 

foolish culture!

While i was open air preaching,

- i found that people despise a loud male voice.

- mindless, imperceptive, girl said, "if you would just speak in love i think people would get what your trying to say"

- Guys came and said

- "why are you screeming at everyone?"

- and (so foolishly) "you have lost credibility with the contichuancy we represent" (they were soo impressed and thought they were soo smart and smooth...)

 

Foolish pervert at advanced auto, where i was buying something and partly talking about the Germin Bible and she stopped her boring compliance to say (paraphrased) "Wach the guy outside! He's going to do something foolish" and a guy peeled out w his motorcycle...

 

 

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pro: fool holds his heart in his left hand

 

 

1Co_11: -- not percieving lord's body... not thoroughly judging yourself to avoid guilt

 

 

don't be a "light woman"

>> get: Scrip / TSK / Greek / Google?

 

How to Be Perceptive

Sir_3:22  ·What is committed [ἃ προσετάγη] to you, attend to [ταῦτα διανοοῦ];

Sir_3:31  ·He who does a kindness is remembered afterward [ὁ ἀνταποδιδοὺς χάριτας μέμνηται εἰς τὰ μετὰ ταῦτα – NETS: He who repays favors gives thought to what comes after; Br: And he that requiteth good turns is mindful of that which may come hereafter];11 [[Sir3:31] LXX / Heb(A) “The kindness a person does crossed his path as he goes”]

when [καὶ ἐν καιρῷ] he falls, he finds [εὑρήσει] a support [στήριγμα].

 

 

- even if a fool is silent... considered (Heb? Gr???)

- Col/other: do not let each look after his own things...

 

- combine with: deep waters / truth is holy and deep / feelings are not "on-demand" - that's why it is not always straightforward / don't be an "Indian Worker"

 

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Big need: adjust the size of your filter [think: faithfulness] with the shear sensory information, and also relational information, that is going through you.

 

What you do with what you see determins who you are morally.

 

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TSK: Pro?:Guard your heart... Out of it flows...!

He Prepared his heart to seek the lord

Search me and know me

Fools heart is in his left hand

David knew that Joab was involved w this question of the elder woman.

Be aware of others more than yourself

Constantly pray: make me the least, and, I forgive all social shame given from them and renounce it from myself.

If you do not percieve, you should be very accurate in how slow you trust yourself (don't be an Indian worker)

Know where you really are, and !know where others are and what they really want before moving forward!

Let no man just look to his own things, but to that of others...

Joseph noticed that the egyptions did not like shepherds

Think of all the verses that say: look to youselves... Watch out!

Jesus: what i say to you i say to all: Watch!

 

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Pro: if Fool is quiet, considered perceive

 

 

2Co2: Not ignorant of his thoughts

 

Pro: the subtle sayings of the wise

> direct implication: you can change your perception level by admiring and taking to heart the SUBTLE saying of the wise

> get TSK

> people's hearts are deep - they are often not 'on demand' - we are not trying to get mearly a brain agreement, but a heart one -- this takes TIME and loving patience to draw out that lasting heart decision and attraction to truth that is a faith 'more precious than gold' (Peter)

) all people's hearts are deep waters (get Pro!! LXX) so don't ever even think of seeking to settle in on brain devotion, esp not from YOURSELF, because that leaves you as an unbeliver w rebellious apostacy and dirty heresy flooded in your heart (you are still rady to commit murder and blasphemy in apostacy)

) examples:

- Apostles wanted to bring greeks, but Jesus ignored them

- Apostles: Lord when you said this you offended them...

- ever wondered why Jesus was always riding above everything and everybody with some untouchable spiritual standard that no one can ever figure out?? -- it's called being spiritual and being perceptive... What everyone else though was a good idea Jesus seems to always be on a totally different plain w totally different values

- Nicademious ...if unhappy with this, or thinking Jesus did it wrong, you are choosing un-perceptive-ness

- Jesus hated His own fan club!

 

> import community... Etc??

 

Grow in all discernment

 

 

The Focused Life

12/27/03 (+Word: Created); 12/28/03 (Word: Printed); 3/26/12 (+Word: Modified); 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

The Danger: What the bad stuff looks like

 

It says:

Jam_1:14-15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.  15  Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death…

Jam_5:19-20 Breathers, if any of you do err4105 from the truth, and one convert1994 him;  20  Let him know, that he which converts1994  the sinner from the error4106 of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (KJV-Based)

 

4105  [“…go astray, deceive, err, seduce, wander…”]

 

1994  […to revert (literally, figuratively or morally): - come (go) again, convert, (re-) turn (about, again)…]

 

4106  […fraudulence; subjectively a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to deceive, delusion, error].

 

Greek Quotations from Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

 

Mar_4:7  And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit19 And the cares3308 of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it become unfruitful. (KJV-Based)

 

G3308 μέριμνα merimna mer'-im-nah From G3307

(through the idea of distraction); solicitude: - care.

Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

 

Become like Saul and Solomon who fell

Book: “Overcoming the Dark Side of Leadership”

 

This is why T.V. is so bad for you.  It is the antithesis of a focused life.  The “Sesame Street Generation” has been trained to never deal with anything

Jacob always cover it up with TV

● TV shows depicting fighting in the flesh = Fighting against your covenant.

How do you expect to be focused on Jesus watching that?

 

Jam_4:4  You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that the friendship with the world is hatred toward God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

 

More:

● People with out focus fall in to sin. They become Complacent and unaware that…

1Pe_5:8  Be sober, be watchful; your adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion, seeking someone he may devour. (EMTV)

 

 

Solution?

Pro_4:20-21 My son, attend to my words; incline your ear unto my sayings.  21  Let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart….

Pro_4:25-27 Let your eyes look right on, and let your eyelids look straight before you.  26  Ponder the path of your feet, and let all your ways be established.  27  Don’t turn  to the right hand nor to the left: remove your foot from evil. (KJV-Based)

 

Work Intentionally

Does all with Jesus on his mind

1Th_5:17  Pray without ceasing. (KJV)

-Don’t just mindlessly do your work

            Col_3:23  And whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord, and not for men,

 

Focused

It is intentional, focused, set apart for one purpose without a lot of fluff, 

Mat_6:22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. (Not lusting for $$)

 

Prayer to music is Biblical and good

● Weird link between harps and prophecy:

Examples: 1Sam_10:5, 1Chr25:1-3 -Prophesy to it

● Music in heaven: (All include harps)

Rev. 5:8-9, 14:2-3, & 15:2-3

ÞBut you have got to be able to live with out it! (Like Jesus in desert)

 

What does The Focused Life Look Like?

 

The focused life is… Character.  It’s where internal things and personal issues are dealt with in “the quiet place.” This place is where the focused life is birthed out of!

● John the B.: Mtt. 3:1-3, 11:7

● Jesus: Mtt.4:1, 14:15 & 23 Fasting Mtt.4:2, & Mk. 1:13

● Mat_14:23  And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.

● You will never live the focused life unless you set aside at least 1/day to pray.

 

●Jesus Got alone to pray:

Don’t suppress anger worries and distress, otherwise you will be distracted.  Got to deal with things-  Use Vega Example

-Don’t always crave stimulation talking… but seek the surgery of your heart

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Be focused in your words and selective in how you use them.

Pro_10:19  In the multitude of words there is no lack of sin, But he who restrains his lips does wisely.

● Don’t always listen to music when in the car alone…Bring you to the superficial keeps you from doing surgery…

● Always need stimulation? Focus Vs rocky pump you up music

 

  Psa_139:23  Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:

-But would he have the chance if your always moving around??

● This country is hustle and bustle and unless you are quiet you will not process information that is deeply important.

 

Scripture

The focused life = Always meditating on scripture

Deu_6:4-9 Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one:  5  and you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.  6  These words, which I command you this day, shall be on your heart;  7  and you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up.  8  You shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be for symbols between your eyes.  9  You shall write them on the door-posts of your house, and on your gates. (WEB)

ÞIf you don’t re-set your priorities and Desires every morning and night don’t be surprised when you end up lusting after this life!

“I just don’t feel like reading my Bible… I don’t know why I’m not on fire for God… Why do I keep on sinning… How did I fall into that”

Pro_22:3 A prudent man sees danger, and hides himself; But the simple pass on, and suffer for it. (WEB)

 

Preparation

You are prepared in quietness but explode with anointing to be used.  Use P-mike example + personal experience

If you are doing a Bible study Þ Get alone and quiet so you can explode!!

Sometimes you feel lik getting loud but you need to be quiet because not everything has been dealt with yet.

● The focused life is all about preparation for God to use you and preparation for a heavenly country to come.

 

Rewards

It is full of rewards!

            Enter in you good and faithful servant

            Faithful with littleÞ put over much

The focused accomplish great exploits. (Mike J.?? Þ but those who long for a heavenly country are the ones that last! Mike for 10 years, Abraham for eternity)

            The name of the righteous is preserved

 

More:

 

Weights

Jesus limited his company to not have dead weight

Cut off hand, do not even eat, let us lay aside every weight every sin and…

 

Desires

Keeping in priority what you like [choose what you like] :

For getting the past… I have been crucified to the world… count all things loss

 

Gal_5:24  And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

ÞMy life: separated to the Gospel

 

Physiological Considerations

This suggests that working memory impairments are associated with low learning outcomes and constitute a high risk factor for educational underachievement for children. In children with learning disabilities such as dyslexia, ADHD, and developmental coordination disorder, a similar pattern is evident.[98]

 

In a classroom, common characteristics of working memory impairment include a failure to remember instructions and an inability to complete learning activities. Without early diagnosis, working memory impairment negatively impacts a child's performance throughout their scholastic career.[99]

 

However, strategies that target the specific strengths and weaknesses of the student's working memory profile are available for educators.[100]

[edit] Attention

 

Research suggests a close link between the working memory capacities of a person and their ability to control the information from the environment that they can selectively enhance or ignore.[101] Such attention allows for example for the voluntarily shifting in regard to goals of a person's information processing to spatial locations or objects rather than ones that capture their attention due to their sensory saliency (such as an ambulance siren). The goal directing of attention is driven by "top-down" signals from the PFC that bias processing in posterior cortical areas[102] and saliency capture by "bottom-up" control from subcortical structures and the primary sensory cortices.[103] The ability to override sensory capture of attention differs greatly between individuals and this difference closely links to their working memory capacity. The greater a person's working memory capacity, the greater their ability to resist sensory capture.[101] The limited ability to override attentional capture is likely to result in the unnecessary storage of information in working memory,[101] suggesting not only that having a poor working memory affects attention but that it can also limit the capacity of working memory even further. (low attention <=> low working memory).

[edit] Research

 

Today there are hundreds of research laboratories around the world studying various aspects of working memory. There are numerous applications of working memory in the field, such as using working memory capacity to explain intelligence, success at emotion regulation,[104] and other cognitive abilities,[105] furthering the understanding of autism spectrum disorders,[106] ADHD,[107] motor dyspraxia,[108] and improving teaching methods,[77] educational attainment,[109] and creating artificial intelligence based on the human brain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Despising - Something that needs to be Perceived

4/26/14

>> Pop (comp.): Love

 

Be intentional and concientious on obligating, indebting, incriminating words that make people liable for anything.

 

Don't go arround stuffing you own mouth and meeting your own needs. Always go out of your own door asking God and charging your own heart as to how to meet someone elses needs. Ushing people arround with your own unwarented and proud requirements invites people to push back, and we are suppose to be not only turning the other cheek, but even seeking to bless our enemy, and even more w our friend!

 

Binding someone to something to anything is an act of authority, and you are charged to not do this to each other, or anyone else for that matter, unless it is specifically time to do that.

(i do not say you should avoid mentioning debts that are already there, such as obeying authority, etc.)

 

You are being evil if you make someone else feel guilty and bad when they did not feel that before. Do not push people arround, but submissively request favors and always prefer to leave a wide gapping room for them to make decisions (preserve and maintain space for them to have primary initiative in choosing to be kind to you from the heart)

 

Do not talk to anyone in the raw, until you have permission from your authority (or brother or sister who you consider greater than you) to vent.

 

)Do not be a bear in your own house!

 

You are charged to only create debt, requirements, obligations, emotional 'have-toos' when you are strategically choosing to.

 

 

 

By default: Study your words so as not to ever even slightly create a debt... always compose your communication to ask for favors

This is a subtle difference between how you would treet royalty, or even a guest! This is in strong contrast to how your evil relaxsation despises people w familiarity (familiarity breeds contempt) which is a sick perversion that you are to quickly spot in yourself and repent w shame quickly.

 

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Rep of Perception

5/24/14; 5/31/14

 

 

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1co3-4-6

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Integrity means leaving things alone and not judging anything

this could sometimes be the only "integrity" that some schalars have: they eventually learn (from the school of hard knocks) when they really don't know the answer

Being really resolute about what you don't know prepares your words for integrity

if you are not on, quaranteen yourself, your demeanor, your attitude/outlook, your assumptions, your interactions

if you have had a reputation of being wrong in the past in certain areas, then don't foolishly move forward in ignorance! Fear and tremble to repeat an offense -- and fear so much that if the possibility / occation arrises you are carefully remaining pressed down and shamefaced so that you are clearing every step from guilt by meakness and subjection -- this principal is multiplied about 100 times when you are in danger of affecting othr people

don't give yourself any slack lest you sin into another person!

when there is an epedemic, you should proactively confirm your inocence, and be humble enough to let others bring you into concern

 

 

 

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9/27/16

 

 

1Ki_3:9 WEB Give your servant therefore an understanding heart to judge your people, that I may discern between good and evil; for who is able to judge this your great people?

1Ki_3:9 CAB Give therefore to Your servant a heart to hear and to judge Your people justly, and to discern between good and evil: for who will be able to judge this Your great people?

1Ki_3:9  καὶ δώσεις τῷ δούλῳ σου καρδίαν ἀκούειν καὶ διακρίνειν τὸν λαόν σου ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ συνίειν ἀνὰ μέσον ἀγαθοῦ καὶ κακοῦ· ὅτι τίς δυνήσεται κρίνειν τὸν λαόν σου τὸν βαρὺν τοῦτον;

1Ki_3:10 The speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing.

1Ki_3:10 And it was pleasing before the Lord, that Solomon asked this thing.

1Ki_3:10  καὶ ἤρεσεν ἐνώπιον κυρίου ὅτι ᾐτήσατο Σαλωμων τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο,

1Ki_3:11 God said to him, Because you have asked this thing, and have not asked for yourself long life, neither have asked riches for yourself, nor have asked the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern justice;

1Ki_3:11 And the Lord said to him, Because you have asked this thing of Me, and have not asked for yourself long life, and have not asked wealth, nor have asked for the lives of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to hear judgment;

1Ki_3:11  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς αὐτόν Ἀνθ᾿ ὧν ᾐτήσω παρ᾿ ἐμοῦ τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο καὶ οὐκ ᾐτήσω σαυτῷ ἡμέρας πολλὰς καὶ οὐκ ᾐτήσω πλοῦτον οὐδὲ ᾐτήσω ψυχὰς ἐχθρῶν σου, ἀλλ᾿ ᾐτήσω σαυτῷ σύνεσιν τοῦ εἰσακούειν κρίμα,

1Ki_3:12 behold, I have done according to your word: behold, I have given you a wise and an understanding heart; so that there has been none like you before you, neither after you shall any arise like you.

1Ki_3:12 behold, I have done according to your word: behold, I have given you an understanding and wise heart: there has not been anyone like you before you, and after you there shall not arise one like you.

1Ki_3:12  ἰδοὺ πεποίηκα κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμά σου· ἰδοὺ δέδωκά σοι καρδίαν φρονίμην καὶ σοφήν, ὡς σὺ οὐ γέγονεν ἔμπροσθέν σου καὶ μετὰ σὲ οὐκ ἀναστήσεται ὅμοιός σοι.

1Ki_3:13 I have also given you that which you have not asked, both riches and honor, so that there shall not be any among the kings like you, all your days.

1Ki_3:13 And I have also given to you what you have not asked, wealth and glory, so that there has not been anyone like you among kings.

1Ki_3:13  καὶ ἃ οὐκ ᾐτήσω, δέδωκά σοι, καὶ πλοῦτον καὶ δόξαν, ὡς οὐ γέγονεν ἀνὴρ ὅμοιός σοι ἐν βασιλεῦσιν·

 

 

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Truth is more simple than we give heaven credit for….

9/23/16

 

Deu_18:21 WEB If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken?

Deu_18:21 CAB But if you shall say in your heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?

Deu_18:21  ἐὰν δὲ εἴπῃς ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου Πῶς γνωσόμεθα τὸ ῥῆμα, ὃ οὐκ ἐλάλησεν κύριος;

Deu_18:22  when a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn't follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.

Deu_18:22 Whatever words that prophet shall speak in the name of the Lord, and they shall not come true, and not come to pass, this is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; that prophet has spoken wickedly: you shall not spare him.

Deu_18:22  ὅσα ἐὰν λαλήσῃ ὁ προφήτης ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματι κυρίου, καὶ μὴ γένηται τὸ ῥῆμα καὶ μὴ συμβῇ, τοῦτο τὸ ῥῆμα, ὃ οὐκ ἐλάλησεν κύριος· ἐν ἀσεβείᾳ ἐλάλησεν ὁ προφήτης ἐκεῖνος, οὐκ ἀφέξεσθε αὐτοῦ.

>> Bible is True | Dis

 

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Real Prophets Have Non-Personality Perception

9/21/16

 

1Co_13:2 CAB And though I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

1Co_13:2  καὶ ἐὰν ἔχω προφητείαν καὶ εἰδῶ τὰ μυστήρια πάντα καὶ πᾶσαν τὴν γνῶσιν, καὶ ἐὰν ἔχω πᾶσαν τὴν πίστιν, ὥστε ὄρη μεθιστάνειν, ἀγάπην δὲ μὴ ἔχω, οὐδέν εἰμι.

 

 

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Refinement & Perfection Through Deconstruction & Reconstruction

8/31/16

 

>>Scrip:

Bbb Potter remakes clay

Endure chastening

 

Our Heroes Endured

David rebuked

Peter refined

 

 

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People Always Mean Something In The Spiritual Realm

8/12/16; 10/22/16; 12/5/16

 

Exo_3:6 -- extra words for identity

people always mean something spiritually -- they even map your concept to the right or wrong god

 

 

We really need to know who each other is.

 

 

Sir_12:1 If you do good, know for whom you are doing it,

and your kindness will have its effect.

2 Do good to the righteous man and reward will be yours, if not from him, from Yahweh.6 [6 [Sir12:2] most LXX “from the Most High” / LXX(O), Lat “from the Lord” / Syr “from his Lord”]

3 No good comes to him who gives comfort to the wicked, nor is it an act of mercy that he does.

4 Give to the good man, refuse the sinner.

5 Refresh the downtrodden, give nothing to the proud.

Do not give him arms for combat,

lest he use them against yourself;

for you will receive twice as much evil in time of need7 [7 [Sir12:5] LXX / Heb(A), Syr add]

for every good deed you do for him.

6 The Most High8 [8 [Sir12:6] LXX / Heb(A) “. God”] himself hates sinners,

and he inflicts punishment upon the wicked. and he keeps them for the day of vengeance.9 [9 [Sir12:6] LXX(II) adds]

Give to the pious man,

but refuse the sinner.10 [10 [Sir12:7] LXX adds]

>> comp. Jesus: a righteous man’s reward

>> Sync: dhg | rifi

 

 

 

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8/6/16

 

Pro_28:11 WEB  The rich man is wise in his own eyes; but the poor who has understanding sees through him.

Pro_28:11 LB A rich man is wise in his own conceit, but a poor man with understanding shall condemn him.

Pro_28:11  σοφὸς παρ᾿ ἑαυτῷ ἀνὴρ πλούσιος, πένης δὲ νοήμων καταγνώσεται αὐτοῦ.

 

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7/20/16

 

1Ki_8:38 KJV+  WhatH3605 prayerH8605 and supplicationH8467 soeverH3605 H834 beH1961 made by anyH3605 man,H120 or by allH3605 thy peopleH5971 Israel,H3478 whichH834 shall knowH3045 every manH376 the plagueH5061 of his own heart,H3824 and spread forthH6566 his handsH3709 towardH413 thisH2088 house:H1004

1Ki_8:38 LB every prayer, every supplication whatever shall be made by any man, as they shall know each the plague of his heart, and shall spread abroad his hands to this house,

1Ki_8:38  πᾶσαν προσευχήν, πᾶσαν δέησιν, ἐὰν γένηται παντὶ ἀνθρώπῳ, ὡς ἂν γνῶσιν ἕκαστος ἁφὴν καρδίας αὐτοῦ καὶ διαπετάσῃ τὰς χεῖρας αὐτοῦ εἰς τὸν οἶκον τοῦτον,

1Ki_8:39 KJV+  Then hearH8085 thouH859 in heavenH8064 thy dwellingH3427 place,H4349 and forgive,H5545 and do,H6213 and giveH5414 to every manH376 according toH3605 his ways,H1870 whoseH834 (H853) heartH3824 thou knowest;H3045 (forH3588 thou,H859 even thou only,H905 knowestH3045 (H853) the heartsH3824 of allH3605 the childrenH1121 of men;)H120

1Ki_8:39 then shall You listen from heaven, out of Your established dwelling place, and shall be merciful, and shall do, and recompense to every man according to his ways, as You shall know his heart, for You alone know the heart of all the children of men;

1Ki_8:39  καὶ σὺ εἰσακούσῃ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἐξ ἑτοίμου κατοικητηρίου σου καὶ ἵλεως ἔσῃ καὶ ποιήσεις καὶ δώσεις ἀνδρὶ κατὰ τὰς ὁδοὺς αὐτοῦ, καθὼς ἂν γνῷς τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ, ὅτι σὺ μονώτατος οἶδας τὴν καρδίαν πάντων υἱῶν ἀνθρώπων,

 

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Favor Recognition

7/20/16

 

On one hand, initially, discernment might at first add up to simply not approving of “everything” and “everyone”. (After all, that is most of what discernment is occupied with in a rich and indulgent culture.)

But in truth, discernment is more than just disapproving of everyone, especially because in the end this can very easily amount up to simple “detection” which does not actually distinguish / thoroughly judge much of anything.

Actual Discernment is able to recognize the difference between spirits (>>) and is able to recognize the favor of God:

 

>>Scrip:

Peter: this is the true favor of God in which you stand

 

Peter was able to approve of Paul’s spiritual children.

Peter had been around the truth and been trained by accuracy so thoroughly, having needed to lead, that he could canonically verify other cannons -- and they needed this!

 

 

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Dreams

Other dates (~2008); 6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs); other date (6 or 7, 2016); 8/8/16

>> Joseph

There are basically three types of dreams. Whenever you have a dream you are wondering about, then first ask yourself the question, “is this from my own heart, from the devil, or from God?”

 

(1) NaturalEcc_5:1-7 (esp. Ecc_5:3, Ecc_5:7) {Sir_31:1-7 (Sir_34:1-7 in some texts) (NTES p 747)}

(2) DemonicDeu_13:1-3

(3) DivineGen_37:8 (compare Sirach mentioned above)

 

Gen_40:8 CAB  And they said to him, We have seen a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said to them, Is not the interpretation of them with God? Therefore tell them to me.

 

I saw that Jesus was able to get up from sleeping in immediately prophesy and do miracles.

Then I said to myself, there’s got to be a better answer than what I and everyone else I know has been experiencing with “uncontrolled” vanity dreams.

 

10/28/16

 

Isa_29:8 WEB  It will be like when a hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats; but he awakes, and his hunger isn't satisfied; or like when a thirsty man dreams, and behold, he drinks; but he awakes, and behold, he is faint, and he is still thirsty. The multitude of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion will be like that.

Isa_29:8 CAB  And as men drink and eat in sleep, and when they have arisen, the dream is vain. And as a thirsty man dreams as if he drank, and having arisen is still thirsty, and his soul has desired in vain, so shall be the wealth of all the nations, as many as have fought against Mount Zion.

Isa_29:8  καὶ ἔσονται ὡς οἱ ἐν ὕπνῳ πίνοντες καὶ ἔσθοντες, καὶ ἐξαναστάντων μάταιον αὐτῶν τὸ ἐνύπνιον, καὶ ὃν τρόπον ἐνυπνιάζεται ὁ διψῶν ὡς πίνων καὶ ἐξαναστὰς ἔτι διψᾷ, ἡ δὲ ψυχὴ αὐτοῦ εἰς κενὸν ἤλπισεν, οὕτως ἔσται ὁ πλοῦτος πάντων τῶν ἐθνῶν, ὅσοι ἐπεστράτευσαν ἐπὶ τὸ ὄρος Σιων.

Isa_29:9 Pause and wonder! Blind yourselves and be blind! They are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.

Isa_29:9 Faint, and be amazed, and be overpowered, not with strong drink, nor with wine.

Isa_29:9  ἐκλύθητε καὶ ἔκστητε καὶ κραιπαλήσατε οὐκ ἀπὸ σικερα οὐδὲ ἀπὸ οἴνου·

Isa_29:10 For Yahweh has poured out on you a spirit of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes, the prophets; and he has covered your heads, the seers.

Isa_29:10 For the Lord has made you to drink a spirit of deep sleep; and He shall close their eyes, and the eyes of their prophets and of their rulers, who see secret things.

Isa_29:10  ὅτι πεπότικεν ὑμᾶς κύριος πνεύματι κατανύξεως καὶ καμμύσει τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν προφητῶν αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν ἀρχόντων αὐτῶν, οἱ ὁρῶντες τὰ κρυπτά.

 

 

Deu_13:1 WEB  If there arise in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give you a sign or a wonder,

Deu_13:1 LB  “And if there should arise within you a prophet, or one who dreams a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,

Deu_13:1  (13:2) Ἐὰν δὲ ἀναστῇ ἐν σοὶ προφήτης ἢ ἐνυπνιαζόμενος ἐνύπνιον καὶ δῷ σοι σημεῖον ἢ τέρας

Deu_13:2 WEB  and the sign or the wonder come to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them;

Deu_13:2 and the sign or the wonder come to pass which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods, which you know not’;

Deu_13:2  (13:3) καὶ ἔλθῃ τὸ σημεῖον ἢ τὸ τέρας, ὃ ἐλάλησεν πρὸς σὲ λέγων Πορευθῶμεν καὶ λατρεύσωμεν θεοῖς ἑτέροις, οὓς οὐκ οἴδατε,

Deu_13:3 WEB  you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your God proves you, to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deu_13:3 you shall not hearken to the words of that prophet, or the dreamer of that dream, because the Lord your God is testing you, to see whether you love your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deu_13:3  (13:4) οὐκ ἀκούσεσθε τῶν λόγων τοῦ προφήτου ἐκείνου ἢ τοῦ ἐνυπνιαζομένου τὸ ἐνύπνιον ἐκεῖνο, ὅτι πειράζει κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμᾶς εἰδέναι εἰ ἀγαπᾶτε κύριον τὸν θεὸν ὑμῶν ἐξ ὅλης τῆς καρδίας ὑμῶν καὶ ἐξ ὅλης τῆς ψυχῆς ὑμῶν.

 

Deu_13:5 WEB  That prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he has spoken rebellion against Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to draw you aside out of the way which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk in. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.

Deu_13:5 LB  And that prophet or that dreamer of a dream shall die; for he has spoken to make you err from the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, who redeemed you from bondage, to thrust you out of the way which the Lord your God commanded you to walk in. So shall you abolish the evil from among you.

Deu_13:5  (13:6) καὶ ὁ προφήτης ἐκεῖνος ἢ ὁ τὸ ἐνύπνιον ἐνυπνιαζόμενος ἐκεῖνος ἀποθανεῖται· ἐλάλησεν γὰρ πλανῆσαί σε ἀπὸ κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου τοῦ ἐξαγαγόντος σε ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου τοῦ λυτρωσαμένου σε ἐκ τῆς δουλείας ἐξῶσαί σε ἐκ τῆς ὁδοῦ, ἧς ἐνετείλατό σοι κύριος ὁ θεός σου πορεύεσθαι ἐν αὐτῇ· καὶ ἀφανιεῖς τὸν πονηρὸν ἐξ ὑμῶν αὐτῶν.

>> JCH | SPI | …

 

 

 

V: Dreams

4/9/17

 

How to process dreams vs. being quick to disreguard them

But if repetitive, is it significant?

Deal with something in soul.

 

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Disapproved/ Disqualified

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

1Co_9:26-27

2Co_13:5-7; 2Co_10:18

2Ti_2:15

2Ti_3:8

Works:

Tit_1:16

Heb_6:4-18

 

Esau

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

Name:

Gen_25:25

Gen_25:30

- Name means “red”

- The rock is red where his descendants are

 

Nation:

Esau is Edom

Gen_36:1

Gen_36:5

Gen_36:8-9

Gen_36:19-20

 

- Gen is a Preparatory book for opposing Esau

 

Esau is Hated:

Jer_49:10

Mal_1:1-5

See the entire book of Obediah

 

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Don't just take whatever comes down the pike in prayer or “Praise and Worship”

1Co_15:46

1Ti_5:22

2Co_11:4

(2Co_11:2-4; Gal_1:7-9)

1Jn_4:1

1Jn_4:6

 

- It is the faithlessness in your heart wich is ready to accept something unclean.

- We need to have an insurmountable integrity for truth if we hope to overcome this.

 

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5/21/16

 

Gen_44:5 KJV+  Is notH3808 thisH2088 it in whichH834 my lordH113 drinketh,H8354 and whereby indeed he divineth?H1931 H5172 H5172 ye have done evilH7489 in soH834 doing.H6213

Gen_44:5 Why have you stolen my silver cup? Is it not this out of which my lord drinks? And he practices divination with it. You have accomplished evil in that which you have done.’”

Gen_44:5  ἵνα τί ἐκλέψατέ μου τὸ κόνδυ τὸ ἀργυροῦν; οὐ τοῦτό ἐστιν, ἐν ᾧ πίνει ὁ κύριός μου; αὐτὸς δὲ οἰωνισμῷ οἰωνίζεται ἐν αὐτῷ. πονηρὰ συντετέλεσθε, ἃ πεποιήκατε.

 

 

Gen_44:15 KJV+  And JosephH3130 saidH559 unto them, WhatH4100 deedH4639 is thisH2088 thatH834 ye have done?H6213 wotH3045 ye notH3808 thatH3588 such a manH376 as IH3644 can certainly divine?H5172 H5172

Gen_44:15 And Joseph said to them, “What is this thing you have done? Did you not know that a man such as I can certainly practice divination?”

Gen_44:15  εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς Ιωσηφ Τί τὸ πρᾶγμα τοῦτο, ὃ ἐποιήσατε; οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι οἰωνισμῷ οἰωνιεῖται ἄνθρωπος οἷος ἐγώ;

 

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5/17/16

 

Gen_41:16 KJV+  And JosephH3130 answeredH6030 (H853) Pharaoh,H6547 saying,H559 It is not inH1107 me: GodH430 shall give Pharaoh an answerH6030 H6547 of(H853) peace.H7965

Gen_41:16 And Joseph answered Pharaoh and said, “Without God an answer of safety shall not be given to Pharaoh.”

Gen_41:16  ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ Ιωσηφ τῷ Φαραω εἶπεν Ἄνευ τοῦ θεοῦ οὐκ ἀποκριθήσεται τὸ σωτήριον Φαραω.

 

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YT: Joseph Opening Up the Dreams in Prison

5/16/16

 

Gen_40:1, etc.

>> mk summary here...

 

This is just the way it is with discernment and hearing God’s testimony.

 

People forget because they are so gratified by so many other things…

People read the Bible and they almost always say they would not do that (i.e. like the Pharisees saying they would not persecute the prophets)

But here is the big problem: most everyone who feels the benefit of being exposed to the truth on these teachings will forget me and never come back to get the Word of God…

You are not in Joseph’s shoes yet, you are more in the shoes of the baker -- you never feel benefited, or at best, in the shoes of the cup bearer who forgets, but you will get in on Joseph’s greatness when you remember truth and come on into his greatness and run toward the Word of God and forget all other things and leave them behind…

 

 

Story: yanni

 

 

5/16/16

 

Note: Read the whole story…

 

Gen_40:8 KJV+  And they saidH559 untoH413 him, We have dreamedH2492 a dream,H2472 and there is noH369 interpreterH6622 of it. And JosephH3130 saidH559 untoH413 them, Do notH3808 interpretationsH6623 belong to God?H430 tellH5608 me them, I pray you.H4994

Gen_40:8 LB And they said to him, “We have seen a dream, and there is no interpreter of it.” And Joseph said to them, “Is not the interpretation of them with God? Therefore tell them to me.”

Gen_40:8  οἱ δὲ εἶπαν αὐτῷ Ἐνύπνιον εἴδομεν, καὶ ὁ συγκρίνων οὐκ ἔστιν αὐτό. εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς Ιωσηφ Οὐχὶ διὰ τοῦ θεοῦ ἡ διασάφησις αὐτῶν ἐστιν; διηγήσασθε οὖν μοι.

 

 

Gen_40:9 KJV+  And the chiefH8269 butlerH4945 toldH5608 (H853) his dreamH2472 to Joseph,H3130 and saidH559 to him, In my dream,H2472 behold,H2009 a vineH1612 was beforeH6440 me;

Gen_40:9 And the chief cupbearer related his dream to Joseph, and said, “In my dream a vine was before me.

Gen_40:9  καὶ διηγήσατο ὁ ἀρχιοινοχόος τὸ ἐνύπνιον αὐτοῦ τῷ Ιωσηφ καὶ εἶπεν Ἐν τῷ ὕπνῳ μου ἦν ἄμπελος ἐναντίον μου·

Gen_40:10 KJV+  And in the vineH1612 were threeH7969 branches:H8299 and it was as though it budded,H6524 and herH1931 blossomsH5322 shot forth;H5927 and the clustersH811 thereof brought forthH1310 ripe grapes:H6025

Gen_40:10 And in the vine were three stems; and its budding shot forth blossoms; the clusters of grapes were ripe.

Gen_40:10  ἐν δὲ τῇ ἀμπέλῳ τρεῖς πυθμένες, καὶ αὐτὴ θάλλουσα ἀνενηνοχυῖα βλαστούς· πέπειροι οἱ βότρυες σταφυλῆς.

 

 

Gen_40:12 KJV+  And JosephH3130 saidH559 unto him, ThisH2088 is the interpretationH6623 of it: The threeH7969 branchesH8299 are threeH7969 days:H3117

Gen_40:12 LB And Joseph said to him, “This is the interpretation of it. The three stems are three days.

Gen_40:12  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Ιωσηφ Τοῦτο ἡ σύγκρισις αὐτοῦ· οἱ τρεῖς πυθμένες τρεῖς ἡμέραι εἰσίν·

 

 

 

Gen_40:16 KJV+  When the chiefH8269 bakerH644 sawH7200 thatH3588 the interpretationH6622 was good,H2896 he saidH559 untoH413 Joseph,H3130 IH589 alsoH637 was in my dream,H2472 and, behold,H2009 I had threeH7969 whiteH2751 basketsH5536 onH5921 my head:H7218

Gen_40:16 And the chief baker saw that he interpreted correctly; and he said to Joseph, “I also saw a dream, and in it I took up on my head three baskets of bread.

Gen_40:16  καὶ εἶδεν ὁ ἀρχισιτοποιὸς ὅτι ὀρθῶς συνέκρινεν, καὶ εἶπεν τῷ Ιωσηφ Κἀγὼ εἶδον ἐνύπνιον καὶ ᾤμην τρία κανᾶ χονδριτῶν αἴρειν ἐπὶ τῆς κεφαλῆς μου·

 

 

Gen_40:18 KJV+  And JosephH3130 answeredH6030 and said,H559 ThisH2088 is the interpretationH6623 thereof: The threeH7969 basketsH5536 are threeH7969 days:H3117

Gen_40:18 And Joseph answered and said to him, “This is the interpretation of it; The three baskets are three days.

Gen_40:18  ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ Ιωσηφ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Αὕτη ἡ σύγκρισις αὐτοῦ· τὰ τρία κανᾶ τρεῖς ἡμέραι εἰσίν·

 

 

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God Appearing to Laban & Jacob

4/28/16

 

God identifies Himself -- knowing very well that many other gods were prone to appear to them at different times...

Did this ever stop Laban or Abimelech from being pagan and evil?

We see that you can even have a real dream and hear the real God speak to you and you might still be evil and you might still not know how to apply it until you mk like Pharo and worship the spirit in Joseph and Daniel...

 

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Divine Naming Conventions

Naming Women, Children, People, Animals, places, and things

5/8/16; 5/19/16

 

 

God to Adam

Adam to animals and wife

Eve to Seth

Seth named his son

 

hagar to Ishmiel

 

Leah's prophetic names

Jacob confirms her prophetic accuracy

 

 

 

Abraham to Issac

 

David/Nathaniel to Solomon

 

 

 

 

Gen_41:50 KJV+  And unto JosephH3130 were bornH3205 twoH8147 sonsH1121 beforeH2962 the yearsH8141 of famineH7458 came,H935 whichH834 AsenathH621 the daughterH1323 of PotipherahH6319 priestH3548 of OnH204 bareH3205 unto him.

Gen_41:50 LB And to Joseph were born two sons, before the seven years of famine came, which Asenath, the daughter of Poti-Pherah, priest of Heliopolis, bore to him.

Gen_41:50  Τῷ δὲ Ιωσηφ ἐγένοντο υἱοὶ δύο πρὸ τοῦ ἐλθεῖν τὰ ἑπτὰ ἔτη τοῦ λιμοῦ, οὓς ἔτεκεν αὐτῷ Ασεννεθ θυγάτηρ Πετεφρη ἱερέως Ἡλίου πόλεως.

Gen_41:51 KJV+  And JosephH3130 calledH7121 (H853) the nameH8034 of the firstbornH1060 Manasseh:H4519 ForH3588 God,H430 said he, hath made me forgetH5382 (H853) allH3605 my toil,H5999 and allH3605 my father'sH1 house.H1004

Gen_41:51 And Joseph called the name of the firstborn, Manasseh; “For God,” he said, “has made me forget all my toils, and all my father’s house.”

Gen_41:51  ἐκάλεσεν δὲ Ιωσηφ τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ πρωτοτόκου Μανασση, ὅτι Ἐπιλαθέσθαι με ἐποίησεν ὁ θεὸς πάντων τῶν πόνων μου καὶ πάντων τῶν τοῦ πατρός μου.

Gen_41:52 KJV+  And the nameH8034 of the secondH8145 calledH7121 he Ephraim:H669 ForH3588 GodH430 hath caused me to be fruitfulH6509 in the landH776 of my affliction.H6040

Gen_41:52 And he called the name of the second, Ephraim; “For God,” he said, “has increased me in the land of my humiliation.”

Gen_41:52  τὸ δὲ ὄνομα τοῦ δευτέρου ἐκάλεσεν Εφραιμ, ὅτι Ηὔξησέν με ὁ θεὸς ἐν γῇ ταπεινώσεώς μου.

 

 

 

Us vs. the Bible

We name people for vanity today.

We name people based on liking the way a name sounds.

They named people for a real significance…

 

“First impressions”-naming is the best (Biblical) default way to aim at getting what God had in mind…

Prophecies might even tell you before you have your child -- they have at least a 50% chance of being right or wrong (Whittemore’s got it wrong)

When people have an inaccurate impression and wrongly guess what someone’s significance is, this makes is very appropriate for Spiritual rabbis and prophetic disciple-makers to rename you.

Alternatively: A parent could name you according to the flesh, and others could re-name you by a new destiny in the Spirit.

 

Luk_1:13, etc. – John’s Name

Read: Joh_1:1-51 – (esp. Joh_1:12-15)

 

When done spiritually, names can be a miniature sermon

 

 

Personal Examples

 

Al renamed to Al

 

Josiah’s oldest first born was a “John” H3110!

1Ch_3:15

 

My name

 

 

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Inconsistent Perceptions

What To Do When Things Are Not As Though They Seem To Be

5/1/16

 

One quote said people should trust the Catholic church so much they they would believe even if they said black was white and white was black…

 

Polycarp They were immediately well-disposed toward each other

 

This was nearly impossible to trace down within the time they had together…

 

Hold knowledge at a long distance from your heart.

 

Don’t live as though unity is about not experiencing these things.

You should know that such testings will come.

Unity is not feeling like you are unified.

Unity feeling like you are NOT unified, and choosing to be unified anyway.

 

Don’t be foolish.

You can start agreeing right now.

Tell so and so to agree.

Be of the same mind.

 

Be merciful and pray life and forgive…

And even completely forgive from your heart all phantom guilts you have felt against others…

 

Bond of the Spirit

That they might all be one

 

[Let each one be fully persuaded in his own mind…]

 

Be of the same knowledge

 

Word of God is a Discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart

>> this is not your “motives” or sincerity

>> heart is deep, and takes a man of wisdom to draw it out…

>> MT: who can know it?

 

Secret sins

Search and know me…

 

 

 

 

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4/30/16

 

Gen_31:24 KJV+  And GodH430 cameH935 toH413 LabanH3837 the SyrianH761 in a dreamH2472 by night,H3915 and saidH559 unto him, Take heedH8104 thatH6435 thou speakH1696 not toH5973 JacobH3290 either goodH4480 H2896 orH5704 bad.H7451

Gen_31:24 And God came to Laban the Syrian in sleep by night, and said to him, “Take heed to yourself that you do not speak evil things to Jacob at any time.”

Gen_31:24  ἦλθεν δὲ ὁ θεὸς πρὸς Λαβαν τὸν Σύρον καθ᾿ ὕπνον τὴν νύκτα καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Φύλαξαι σεαυτόν, μήποτε λαλήσῃς μετὰ Ιακωβ πονηρά.

 

 

Gen_31:28 KJV+  And hast notH3808 sufferedH5203 me to kissH5401 my sonsH1121 and my daughters?H1323 thou hast nowH6258 done foolishlyH5528 in so doing.H6213

Gen_31:28 And I was not counted worthy to embrace my children and my daughters. Now then you have done foolishly.

Gen_31:28  οὐκ ἠξιώθην καταφιλῆσαι τὰ παιδία μου καὶ τὰς θυγατέρας μου. νῦν δὲ ἀφρόνως ἔπραξας.

 

 

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God does legitimately communicate to those who are used to listening to all kinds of other voices.

>> like Pilate’s wife

>> Balaam

>> etc.

>> comp: gub

 

 

>> notice that previously God had to identify himself to Jacob -- everyone hears voices, and it takes something special and distinct to know that it is the right voice…

 

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You Do Not Know When God is With Someone or when He is Not With Someone

4/21/16

 

Gen_28:16 – CAB: “The Lord is in this place, and I did not know it.”

Vs.

Eli’s Day: they went out to war with the ark, and thought God those with them.

 

How many other examples are there in the Scriptures where they thought God would be with their rich selves, and he wasn’t, and they thought God was not with the poor distressed people, and He was!

 

>>Scrip:

There arose up in those days so and so who claimed to be someone

Goliath did not seem to see anything special with David

Nabal vs. David

 

Etc. etc.

 

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Perception Makes You Read The Bible With Perfect Understanding

3/10/16

Psa_119:18 KJV+  OpenH1540 thou mine eyes,H5869 that I may beholdH5027 wondrous thingsH6381 out of thy law.H4480 H8451

Psa_119:18 Unveil my eyes, and I shall perceive the wondrous things of Your law.

Psa_119:18  (118:18) ἀποκάλυψον τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς μου, καὶ κατανοήσω τὰ θαυμάσιά σου ἐκ τοῦ νόμου σου.

 

>> comp Jesus/Paul vs Jews reading the OT

>> what did Jesus understand the law to require, & how was it different from the Pharisees?

>> comp all of the other examples of NT reading and actually obeying the OT

 

10/20/16

 

Psa_119:18 WEB  Open my eyes, that I may see wondrous things out of your law.

Psa_119:18 CAB  Unveil my eyes, and I shall perceive the wondrous things of Your law.

Psa_119:18  (118:18) ἀποκάλυψον τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς μου, καὶ κατανοήσω τὰ θαυμάσιά σου ἐκ τοῦ νόμου σου.

 

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Detection without Expression is not Perception

...Or real knowledge

> What is the original title for this?

Comp.:

Sync Communication changes?

...

2/25/16

People think they are so spiritual and perceptive whenever they 'feel' things...

Perception is not when you can feel things but when you can accurately express things -- this is when virtue of truer knowledge has taken its full course

 

Story: a Canada laydy who paused a lot in mid-sentence when talking to me...

Story: Mir gets upset and keeps sying for lack of expression... in stead of actually saying anything

 

 

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Heretical Hymns of Vain Braggings of Perception

2/15/16

 

At The Cross: It was there by faith I received my sight…

Amazing grace: Was blind but now I see

 

>>Scrip:

Because you say ‘I see’ your sin remains

 

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YT: proof that Most people Don’t perceive

2/12/16

 

DAR is adultery - you feel the marriage ok

No oaths -- its ok

 

>> See: church person vs. Bible

 

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Marriage strangely makes the wise person desperate for discernment

2/5/16

The Righteous terms of the lifelong marriage covenant are impossible to win under without some kind of serious help and or perception

 

 

God really seems to like making people have to commit to lifelong covenant with each other, and then stick faithful to the other person no matter what you find out after you begin cohabiting with them.

 

 

This enormous risk is at the very foundation of the idea of entering into a marriage covenant with someone you do not already fully know.

the point: you better get really discerning really quick by living a life of extreme righteousness , lest you get married to a terrible person because of your lack of perception!

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The current status of the perception of the children of their spiritual parents

2/3/16

The first level of perception that happens among us is man's perception of his God & his woman.

The next level of perception that happens in my life is woman's apprehension of something serious about who man is.

The next level of perception that happens among us is the clean one's partial perception of her parents.

Even though her perception is still limited, yet because of her surpassing virtues she usually falls in the place of fulfilling justice in most cases.

The next level of perception among us is the sewer's apprehension of man's real value. Although this is not based on a whole lot of real knowledge, yet she has accomplished major justice in coming to the man more than many others.

The next level of perception that happens among us is the scientists perception that her flesh is evil, and realization that something on our side of the fence is right.

But Even her perception of the mother being good is not based on truth and leaves her vulnerable to apostasy.

Even though she may prefer the mother over the man in many cases, yet, this Preference is not based on truth, and she does not know the mother's goodness.

To the same degree to which she comes to the mother but not the man, she is left in misperception and is left vulnerable to apostasy.

 

 

From this we can definitely see numerous aspects of the same principle that you can apprehend something and not really perceive what you have apprehended.

 

in many ways our children all love us, and have done more justice than all other people on the face of the earth.

Despite this, there may be variations seen at different times throughout the community in the way that they treat their parents in distinct ways.

And even though our children have done well to believe us, yet none of our children consistently perceive who their parents are in a fully apprehended way.

By far, the clean one comes the closest , right behind her mother, because of the clean ones unless virtues .

 

 

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2/2/16

 

Joh_5:31 "If I testify of Myself, My testimony is not valid.

Joh_5:31  ᾿Εὰν ἐγὼ μαρτυρῶ περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ, ἡ μαρτυρία μου οὐκ ἔστιν ἀληθής·

Joh_5:32 There is another who testifies about Me, and I know that the testimony which He testifies concerning Me is true.

Joh_5:32  ἄλλος ἐστὶν ὁ μαρτυρῶν περὶ ἐμοῦ, καὶ οἶδα ὅτι ἀληθής ἐστιν ἡ μαρτυρία ἣν μαρτυρεῖ περὶ ἐμοῦ.

 

See:

Joh_5:31-47 !

 

 

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Generosity is not Approval

6/4/17

Don’t confuse God’s kindness and generosity to you as though He approves you!

 

>> find & combine other notes on this

 

Num_11:20 WEB  but a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it is loathsome to you; because that you have rejected Yahweh who is among you, and have wept before him, saying, "Why did we come out of Egypt?" ' "

Num_11:20 LB  you shall eat for a full month, until the meat comes out of your nostrils; and it shall be loathsome unto you, because you disobeyed the Lord, who is among you, and wept before Him, saying, ‘What had we to do to come out of Egypt?’”

Num_11:20  ἕως μηνὸς ἡμερῶν φάγεσθε, ἕως ἂν ἐξέλθῃ ἐκ τῶν μυκτήρων ὑμῶν, καὶ ἔσται ὑμῖν εἰς χολέραν, ὅτι ἠπειθήσατε κυρίῳ, ὅς ἐστιν ἐν ὑμῖν, καὶ ἐκλαύσατε ἐναντίον αὐτοῦ λέγοντες Ἵνα τί ἡμῖν ἐξελθεῖν ἐξ Αἰγύπτου;

 

 

 

YT: Common Discernment Problems

Common problems resulting from lack of perception, and confusion over the idea of hearing God’s voice

12/25/15

 

I speak as to those who are willing to be truly honest people…

 

We all know that something is terribly wrong with the church.

 

And if I can finally find some truly honest people out there, you will admit that basically everyone who thinks that they are going to heaven is not.

Furthermore, everyone who thinks that their hearing from god usually is not -- at least they are not hearing from the right God who is clean like the Scriptures describe.

 

If you are truly honest, you know that this is true.

If your eyes are open, you don’t have any vested interest in any agenda to push, you don’t have any filthy propaganda to defend from your demonic denomination, and the integrity of your rationality has not been completely pulverized by luxury and indulgence and sin, and your conscience has not been seared as with a hot iron, and you are vulnerable and willing to be exposed to the raw truth and the bear reality of the facts of what are obviously going on, you know these things are true.

 

So for everything that I’m about to say, I am addressing truly honest people, and the rest of you can go do something else now.

 

(1) No Canonical Reference Point

In the bible they had things like visions, and miracles, and strong confirmations.

Whenever they were seeking to hear from God or write Scripture, they had a canonical reference point.

They established the real essence of what it was like the successfully hear from the right God.

 

When Paul sat down to write Scripture, he could refer back to what it was like to be caught up in the third heaven, and he could test and know absolutely whether or not he was speaking God’s Words, or his own words, or if he was being tempted by various words floating around for the devil or various other spirits.

 

When Moses came out of the wilderness to free God’s people, he could confront pharaoh as well as the religious Jewish leaders with faith and absolute assurance, because he had already encountered a canonical and absolutely authoritative proclamation from God in heaven.

 

There are obviously many more examples all throughout the Bible.

 

1jn:

We testify to what our eyes have seen and our hands have handled

>> you cannot get in without having fellowship was such people.

 

When church people claim to hear from god, all they have is a goofy set of subjective life experiences, interpreted by corrupted understanding, and a heart that is used to disobeying the Bible.

 

When church people say that god told them something, they have absolutely nothing reliable or solid or true…

There is no integrity or sanity in their sporadic and goofy and ridiculous and pathetic claims.

 

When church people claim to hear from god, it is obviously a very sad and shameful, pathetic sight indeed.

 

 

The same standard which Moses established still applies to this day. -- in fact, this is part of the prophetic confirmation of Jesus’ reliability, so we know for sure that it is extremely relevant, even to us gentiles.

 

(A) they are supernatural / foretelling the future -- this eliminates most everyone claiming to hear from god

(B) They do not promote disobeying the Bible -- this clearly and absolutely eliminates the entire church from having any prophetic voice at all before God or honest men

 

 

(2) Total Confusion

 

Despite the fact that church people have absolutely no discernment, God still does communicate with all of his creatures in one way or the other.

 

The big problem is, because church people are so perverted and so evil in disobeying just about everything God commands them to do, that they typically have absolutely no idea whether one voice is Satan, or the other voice is God.

 

(3) Confusing Balaam for Approval

 

If God ever does actually speak more explicitly to a church person, the huge insanity and big problem is that they assume that this is evidence for approval.

 

despite the fact that bail and was accustomed to listening to all kinds of demonic voices in his divinations,

 

No one seems to take it to heart that God spoke legitimately to Balaam, but it was only for a temporary purpose to fulfill God’s will, and then afterwards God had the Israelites kill Balaam with the sword.

 

No one seems to take it to heart that the book of Acts describes the high priest as accidentally prophesying truth from heaven, even though he was bloodthirsty and murderous against Jesus.

 

Even if God does happen to truly speak to your unworthy soul, this does not even begin to change the standard that has been from the beginning through Moses, all the way through the proclamation of Jesus:

 

If you don’t do what God says to do, He will throw you away as the disposable instrument.

 

God spoke to Cain, and Cain has a memorial in Scripture as a cursed one, having been born out of Satan.

 

God spoke to Balaam, and afterword killed him, and then testified against the memory of his very life throughout the New Testament as an example of filthy demonic activity which would lend you straight in the middle of anti-christ’s kingdom.

 

To one degree or the other, and to one extent or the other, God has also spoken to you.

And depending on how much are actually listening, God is speaking pretty clear to you right now.

Should your heart swell with an unwarranted confidence of false affirmation that God did not give you, or should your heart swell well with gratitude, and quake with fear lest you perish too?

 

Remember that Jesus said that unless you repent, you will perish in the exact same way.

 

 

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Distinguishing Between Clean And Unclean is What Finally Grants Perception of Objective Justice

11/1/15

 

Everyone's concept of right and wrong is always different. Even if some groups of people agree on major concepts, They always disagree on the details.

 

Virtually No group of people has ever been able to decide on one authoritative standard that consistently answers the same standard of truth so that all members of a society can agree on everything.

When monotheism finally came, the earth had hope of societies of people being organized into perfect consistent truth.

 

All men ravaged upon the earth, each with his own private interpretation of right and wrong, now truth could come along and conquer Satan worship and push out perfect obedience to the righteousness of God.

 

And while each man goes about raging in his own lust to determine what he feels is right and wrong, monotheism educates and trains the conscience by giving an infinitely true boundary of what is clean and unclean.

 

Yes, truly, from the law of Moses to the surpassing glory of the New Covenant, God has solidified a standard of what is right and wrong through the perception of what is clean and unclean, so that men may dwell in his holy temple without being killed for Satan worship .

 

The world uses subjective experiences and makes judgements based on blind feelings, but truth actually perceives right and wrong firsthand, by direct perception, and this is the glory and power of acknowledging the difference between clean and unclean. With this perception, it transplants a person from their own selfish motives of Satan worship, and Chains them along the framework of God's values, so that men finally care about what God cares about, and they can make consistent rational judgement calls of monotheism that always agree about everything, having first established the basic foundation of self-denial and monotheistic rationality from direct perception of clean and unclean, now having a just basis for what is right and

 

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Discernment Learns the Flavor of Demons

8/15/15

 

Look 4 – There Was A Man In The Synagogue With A Demon

Luk_4:33 Now in the synagogue there was a man who had a spirit of an unclean demon. And he cried out with a loud voice,

Luk_4:33  καὶ ἐν τῇ συναγωγῇ ἦν ἄνθρωπος ἔχων πνεῦμα δαιμονίου ἀκαθάρτου, καὶ ἀνέκραξε φωνῇ μεγάλῃ λέγων·

Luk_4:34 saying, "Ah! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!"

Luk_4:34  ἔα, τί ἡμῖν καὶ σοί, ᾿Ιησοῦ Ναζαρηνέ; ἦλθες ἀπολέσαι ἡμᾶς; οἶδά σε τίς εἶ, ὁ ἅγιος τοῦ Θεοῦ.

Luk_4:35 But Jesus rebuked him, saying, "Be silenced, and come out from him!" And when the demon had thrown him down in their midst, it came out from him, and did not hurt him.

Luk_4:35  καὶ ἐπετίμησεν αὐτῷ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς λέγων· φιμώθητι καὶ ἔξελθε ἐξ᾿ αὐτοῦ. καὶ ῥίψαν αὐτὸν τὸ δαιμόνιον εἰς τὸ μέσον ἐξῆλθεν ἀπ᾿ αὐτοῦ, μηδὲν βλάψαν αὐτόν.

Luk_4:36 And amazement came upon all, and they spoke among themselves, saying, "What is this word! For with authority and power He commands the unclean spirits, and they come out."

Luk_4:36  καὶ ἐγένετο θάμβος ἐπὶ πάντας, καὶ συνελάλουν πρὸς ἀλλήλους λέγοντες· τίς ὁ λόγος οὗτος, ὅτι ἐν ἐξουσίᾳ καὶ δυνάμει ἐπιτάσσει τοῖς ἀκαθάρτοις πνεύμασι, καὶ ἐξέρχονται;

 

 

Acts 16 – demonized girl threatens things with Syncrotism

Act_16:17 This girl, following after Paul and us, was crying out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation."

Act_16:17  αὕτη κατακολουθήσασα τῷ Παύλῳ καὶ ἡμῖν ἔκραζε λέγουσα· οὗτοι οἱ ἄνθρωποι δοῦλοι τοῦ Θεοῦ τοῦ ὑψίστου εἰσίν, οἵτινες καταγγέλλουσιν ὑμῖν ὁδὸν σωτηρίας.

Act_16:18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, being greatly annoyed and turning around, said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out in that very hour.

Act_16:18  τοῦτο δὲ ἐποίει ἐπὶ πολλὰς ἡμέρας. διαπονηθεὶς δὲ ὁ Παῦλος καὶ ἐπιστρέψας τῷ πνεύματι εἶπε· παραγγέλλω σοι ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐξελθεῖν ἀπ᾿ αὐτῆς. καὶ ἐξῆλθεν αὐτῇ τῇ ὥρᾳ.

Act_16:19 And when her masters saw that the hope of their profit was gone, they took Paul and Silas, and dragged them to the marketplace to the rulers.

Act_16:19  ἰδόντες δὲ οἱ κύριοι αὐτῆς ὅτι ἐξῆλθεν ἡ ἐλπὶς τῆς ἐργασίας αὐτῶν, ἐπιλαβόμενοι τὸν Παῦλον καὶ τὸν Σίλαν εἵλκυσαν εἰς τὴν ἀγορὰν ἐπὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας,

Act_16:20 And bringing them to the magistrates they said, "These men, being Jews, are agitating our city;

Act_16:20  καὶ προσαγαγόντες αὐτοὺς τοῖς στρατηγοῖς εἶπον· οὗτοι οἱ ἄνθρωποι ἐκταράσσουσιν ἡμῶν τὴν πόλιν ᾿Ιουδαῖοι ὑπάρχοντες,

Act_16:21 and they are proclaiming customs which are not lawful for us to receive or to do, since we are Romans."

Act_16:21  καὶ καταγγέλλουσιν ἔθη ἃ οὐκ ἔξεστιν ἡμῖν παραδέχεσθαι οὐδὲ ποιεῖν ῾Ρωμαίοις οὖσι.

Act_16:22 And the crowd rose up together against them; and the magistrates tore their clothes and ordered men to beat them with rods.

Act_16:22  καὶ συνεπέστη ὁ ὄχλος κατ᾿ αὐτῶν, καὶ οἱ στρατηγοὶ περιρήξαντες αὐτῶν τὰ ἱμάτια ἐκέλευον ῥαβδίζειν,

Act_16:23 And when they laid many strokes on them, they cast them into prison, commanding the prison keeper to keep them securely;

Act_16:23  πολλάς τε ἐπιθέντες αὐτοῖς πληγὰς ἔβαλον εἰς φυλακήν, παραγγείλαντες τῷ δεσμοφύλακι ἀσφαλῶς τηρεῖν αὐτούς·

Act_16:24 who, having received such a command, cast them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks.

Act_16:24  ὃς παραγγελίαν τοιαύτην εἰληφὼς ἔβαλεν αὐτοὺς εἰς τὴν ἐσωτέραν φυλακὴν καὶ τοὺς πόδας αὐτῶν ἠσφαλίσατο εἰς τὸ ξύλον.

 

 

There is a sense in which God allowed this to happen for many days so that people could learn the flavor of what was coming out of the demonized girl’s mouth.

 

 

 

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How to be/become/get Perceptive

to be perceptive

6/8/15; 8/5/15; 6/13/16

 

 

6/11/16

gird loins of mind

> always be mindful and thinking

punish yourself (self-discipline) if you find yourself being lazy, fleshly, doubting, lawless ...i.e. mindless

 

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Don’t just go through life, actually understand what is happening to you.

 

Don’t just passively go through life not knowing what is passing through you.

Understand what is going on.

 

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I don't permit you to just quickly pass through everything and just "experience" life, I insist that you actually "understand" life and what you are experiencing. Don't just keep fastly moving on. Stop and be insistant on doing things right.

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Discernment Changes the way You Are Valued

Discernment changes the way you feel valued

5/7/15

 

 

Holland can Express Value Differently than America

World History Teacher From Holland, Mr. Dopin, said that men from his area came into trouble when trying to complement American women, because the men would tell the women that their eyes were as cow's eyes... Needless to say, they had a different value and concept of value and a different expression of what was good...

 

David's Story of Changed Value

David learning something from a man's death while bringing in the ark...

At first his feelings of value were challenged greatly... (his good rejoicing was returned with death)

He did not go on until he had learned something deep about God's testimony and learned how to aprehend value in that wisdom and perception... Then he got really hapy again and rejoiced exceedingly...

 

 

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Sir_4:17  She walks with him as a stranger,

and at first she puts him to the test;

 

 

A perceptive person knows when God is treating them like a stranger!

A blind person feels close even when God has withdrawn

 

No quick “hearing”

Even the righteous feel like God is treating them like a stranger

If people feel quickly close to God and are quick to think they are knowing this and that so easily and quickly, then discernemnt testifies against them

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An Angel Shows God's Way of Testifying for Those Who Are Righteous

3/10/15-3/11/15

 

 

It is understandable and even commendable that Joseph thought to divorce Marry quietly. But the testimony of God is for those doing surpassing and Divine truth. Weather by Angel or other means, God defends those He divinely approves of.

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discernment vs deception

Anti-discernment is at the very foundation of the end-times apostacy, because deception and dellusion and foolishness are the exact opposite of discernment.

 

 

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!! Google!: bird that gets oher birds to hatch its eggs

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Rom_8:15 - you need 2 testimonies to win (the one in heaven being the most important)

 

Do I have jud_1: - making a distinction

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Jer22:-24 - listen to God's voice vs. the following context of following your own ways……

>> Dhg / log / no flesh perception? / mono vs. Paganism

 

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2/17/15

 

Justice of discernment

Johna/Psa: Those who regard lying vanities forsake their own mercy...

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Stop sympathizing with sinsear unbelief...

Stop approving of peoples sinserity

This is why you do not discern, and why you solidify yourself in unbelief...

If you would agree with God disapprove of them, then you would eventually see why they are wrong and recue yourself from their same type of unbelief...

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Into

2/11/15

act5:34, etc. - if of men, it does not continue...

1st century Truth lasted a few generations because it was originally not from men.... Not withstanding, wolves imediately entered, as Paul says in act20.

We must get discernment or we will only last about 1 or so generations!

 

Discernment will make you 'arrows' that contonue to fight evil: Psa_127:5

 

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“People with this gift:

- distinguish truth from error, right from wrong, pure motives from impure

http://www.kodachrome.org/spiritgift/refer.htm

 

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1Ki_3:9

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Ironically, only good "prejudice" is when God tells you an answer so you do not have to do the normal judging

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Joshua and Gibeonites -- you should be quicker toward prayer than making social decisions... Josh had access to the testimony he needed in order to make the right decisions.

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Gen_2 -- sin began with independent acquiring of knowing good and evil

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1/9/15

Not he who approves of himself that is approved, but whom the Lord approves

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His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are God's children... Abba Father...

>> and how do we perceive and measure this testimony?

 

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BBS: Dhg:

11/22/14

 

 

Jas_3:17, etc. – uses the language of discernment to tell us what is truth

 

 

BBS: Dhg: not discerning the Lord's body

11/16/14

 

Dhg: 1co11: "not discening the Lord's body" -- what you do about "people" affects and or determines what God does with you.

Act: Barnabas: and seeing the favor of God, he was glad

 

BBS: DHG: Discernement

4/18/14; 5/17/14; 10/5/14 (Choosing to Be Predestined...)

 

 

Choosing to Be Predestined Before You Made a Choice

I am going to single handedly solve the most profound of predestination challenges all at once...

You shall know positively without a doubt...

You shall fear Him who is soverign and can at any whim whatsoever choose to hate you from eteraty and unconditionally curse you to everlasting destruction for no apparent reason.

Nevertheless...

If you choose what is rightous you will end up being one who was already chosen by God, and vise versa.

There is a sense in which you can choose to be chosen by God, as in, "put on as the elect of God"

 

I have seen many try to enter and not be able because they were rich, and God has not ever chosen the ritch...

You can always choose to be poor and you will end up being having chosen individually because you stuck in what we already know that God has choosen universally

 

Don't outsource your responcibility and worry the sceen with theoretical furures and say "what if God did not predestine me" -- right here, right now you have a chance to choose. Don't distract your concioun away from responcibility by saying things about God that He does not say about Himself. Choose now, because that is what is at hand, and after all is said and done we will glorify God's Justice for allowing you in, and His soverenty for choosing what would happen before it happened...

 

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Jonah: those who regard lying vanities forsake their own mercy

 

Malachi: they will return again and discern between good and evil, clean enough, and with those who serve God and those who don't

 

>> got to get TSK for all of these references!

 

 

 

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8/23/14

Bbs: discernment/perception is not about  intelligence, but about being conversant with truth. It is not about being smart but about being wise in moral and spiritual distinctions. it is not about having sharp 5 senses, but about intensly caring and noticing when God has said something (scripture or otherwise) about things percieved by any of the senses (or beyond the senses).

Discernment is about caring about everything God says about anything.

--

8/3/12; 8/4/12

 

Al: 10:50am Hd, I think I've composed a multi-layered question that I would like to more-or-less ask if we have a Q&A this Saturday- When you were oppressed and hating life for 3 years, would you have considered yourself a living/functioning part of Jesus body? How could you tell the difference between being a Cornelius vs. an assimilated member of Jesus' body/a brother in the Lord? How did you know your sins were forgiven?

 

hd: very good question! that sounds like something worth going into :+)

 

Al: Just in case you were wondering, the following is the underlying current for my question- I want my roomie to be relieved at hearing the truth of where she is really at, and I want her to have a solid basis when believing things pertaining to salvation and freedom and righteousness and being a member of Jesus' body

 

Al: 11:22 am Oh please do let your servant speak once more and let me restate my "underlying current" in other words- We know for sure that Ay is AT LEAST "accepted" and valued by the Lord, but how do we know beyond that? What is the basis/reference point(s) that we/she has?

 

How did you interact with (or treat) other believers during this time (those 3 years)? Did you ever face any jealousy and darkness issues that affected your interactions? Were there any prolonged anger and bitterness issues? Did you ever come to a season where you just shut down? Was there ever a point where you just chose to stop praying?

 

Did you experience a shift happening from faith moments feeling abnormal --> to unbelief feeling abnormal/contrary to your nature?

 

Perceiving Salvation is not in public domain

Do not be impressed with what you see

You never have a right to consider someone saved

It is none of your business to be persuaded toward anyone’s justification (aside from God’s testimony)

 

Evidence of

 

 

Unjust Salvation Hope

8/4/12

This is why this is a problem, and we really need to face our problem instead of doing perversion nd injustice

 

- mercy toward the weak: - the spirit is willing but fl is... - a brused reed, no break - rev: you have a little strength - in your striving against sin - he knows or fraim - we have an advocate & such a high priest

 

Unjust salvation hope: - my story (untroubled sick people trying to "help" poor me get well) - I would eventually say (looking back) that this was salvation undernieth the weight of so many other pressures - but most people are at ease relying on natural, common blessings to authenticate themselves as christians.

 

Encouragement Verses

 

A bruised reed

 

 

 

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It is immoral to go on to believe you have any idea what justice is, not having been instructed and corrected.

-- think: my niece speaks first thing when I walk in -- since you don't know justice, why are you speaking?

4/25/11

 

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Stephenie Disclaimer

-Note to Stephenie- You should know that the specific purpose of this paper is not for general use.  If it seams harsh, its because it is aimed at people who deny and strive with discernment.  It is not meant to bash innocent bystanders-

 

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Automatic

Discernment is not like judging because discernment is automatic. It is like a series of electrical shocks that could make my muscles twitch. The muscles just twitch by themselves. I could block the shocks to a degree, but if I block the shocks of discernment, then I would half to turn away and block myself from JESUS and His Truth – and that is not worth it!

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More

Some people are avid participationists, and some are avid ________its, but each has its own problem.

 

 

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Old

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√ -- >> Add: 1. another Jesus (2co 11); 2. walk according to the same spirit (2co 12)

√ -- 5/20/12; 8/26/14 (Another Jesus & Another Spirit vs. the Same Spirit)

>> Checkout & insert dates, then, make a backup of the whole thing

 

>> These are somewhere…

Exercised discernment

 

 

Repent of Your Perception

Don’t Trust it, but die to it, kick it, insult it, rage against it… and save your soul.

Original Title: YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND – PART 1 – REPENT OF YOUR PERCEPTION

Your Wish Is My Command: 11/24/13; 11/27/13; 11/30/13; 12/1/13; 12/3/13; 12/7/13; 12/13/13; 12/25/13; 12/28/13; 1/4/14; 1/8/14; 1/14/14-1/15/14; 1/28/14; 2/13/14; 2/15/14; 2/21/14-2/27/14; 3/2/14; 3/11/14; 3/16/14; 3/23/14; 4/3/14; 4/27/14; 5/18/14; 5/25/14-5/26/14; 6/2/14

 

Repent-of-Your-Perception--A--4.27.14.mp3

Repent-of-Your-Perception--B--5.25.14--Yard-Sale-Story.mp3

Repent-of-Your-Perception--C--5.25.14--Assume-Others-Are-Smarter.mp3

 

Intro 1

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>> Clarification: Body is temple of Ho Sp... did not intend to contradict that in any way... also: John B is an exception, but it was still 'after something supernatural impacted him'

>> this needs to go in discernment at some point…

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Your Wish as My Command is about being Even more Spiritual than we have before

Taking the next step

We have learned how to agree when we are intellectually caught up with each other, but sometimes we particularly need to treat each other like Jesus and choose to agree (i.e. valuing one another more than ourselves) even when our own mind is doing something totally opposite…

We should be well Trained in Self-Crucifixion!

 

How?

>> By faith in the truth that is, even if you are not grasping it yet

>> Submitted to monotheism and faithfulness to the other person

>> Being committed to having a peaceful covenant with the other person

>> Not defining on flesh, insisting on what God has said about each other

>> By dying to your perception

 

It is not mission-critical to have the same knowledge in order to agree on everything.

If you have to know the same stuff to agree, then you are not ready to follow Jesus on the mission to preach the good announcement.

 

Submission is Really Shown When You Are Not on the Same Page, but You Choose to maintain perfect agreement because of faith

 

This only happiness when we are extremely crucified

 

“Strive to keep the unity of the Spirit” – i.e. the mind will ultimately follow, then the brain too, but being spiritual quickly happens when there is a lag and it takes time for the understanding to catch up…

 

Look: Submission is measurable when the brain is lagging behind in information.

 

Haven’t you learned yet that your own self and flesh are totally evil?  Then don’t make it so big of a thing that you were commanded to spit on your own perception while preferring more excellent things.

 

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V Typed Notes

 

Your wish is my command is an exhortation to taking more steps to be more spiritual than we have before.

When you're in a lowered state and someone is in a higher state you do it even if you don't understand because you are in the lower state, when you get a command you are to say your wish is my command. When you are in a lower state, you don't have to understand to obey and agree and do it happily.

We have learnt to agree when we have intellectually caught up with each other, however, we can agree even when we have not caught up with each other.

Your brain is perishing, and when agreement has to come from something that is perishing. Then it will also perish. Therefore you need to build on things that last forever.

If we follow what our Overseer tells us, he will lead us into perfect agreement.

We have endured with communication, we

We can agree even when we don't have the same information. By faith in the truth that is

Being committed to monotheism, peacefulness, and believing the truth in another person.

Even when our brain are doing different things we can both have perfect agreement.

It should be on the part of the person who is following to exalt their leader and it is the responsibility of the leader to humble themselves before others.

 

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Intro – Part 2

 

 

 

Irenaeus on Polycarp’s Agreement with Anicetus

And when the blessed Polycarp was sojourning in Rome in the time of Anicetus, although a slight controversy had arisen among them as to certain other points, they were at once well inclined towards each other [with regard to the matter in hand], not willing that any quarrel should arise between them upon this head. For neither could Anicetus persuade Polycarp to forego the observance [in his own way], inasmuch as these things had been always [so] observed by John the disciple of our Lord, and by other apostles with whom he had been conversant; nor, on the other hand, could Polycarp succeed in persuading Anicetus to keep [the observance in his way], for he maintained that he was bound to adhere to the usage of the presbyters who preceded him. And in this state of affairs they held fellowship with each other; and Anicetus conceded to Polycarp in the Church the celebration of the Eucharist, by way of showing him respect; so that they parted in peace one from the other, maintaining peace with the whole Church, both those who did observe [this custom] and those who did not.

 

No Convenient Faith

Don’t just wait till the situations/circumstances are agreeable to you (oh, selfish one!), but agree now when it requires you to be spiritual and faithful to the one you have already consistently been in agreement with (a covenant of peace).

 

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No Stop and Go

“Wait, I don’t understand… Wait, I don’t understand… Wait, I don’t understand…”

- This is fit for the incubator, but not for mission!

- when we are trying to train you to believe, then it is appropriate, but when we are trying to put one foot in front of the other, we cannot walk like that and get anywhere on mission

 

Let’s Talk About Defining “Commands”

A command is an imperative instruction, an order… Greek: a perfectly completed obligation / set of injunctions given to another

A command requires another person to not do what they think is good to do, but rather to do what another assigns them

A command stops you from being a rouge / “free radical” / independent agent

A command requires you to bend your will and thoughts under another person’s authority

A command shows that God’s will is communicated to you based on what another person’s mouth tells you to do, and by changing what you would have otherwise done by another person’s direction over you

A command is impossible in today’s church context because of lack of any established theological or practical basis

A command proves that agreement and truth were not as limited as you thought they were by your fleshly estimation

A command requires a person to extend agreement way outside of the boundaries of their understanding on into the realm of spiritual truth and knowledge beyond human words

A command and obedience cannot really shine forth until there is a friction (a felt conflict) of the thoughts/desires/wills (i.e. not my will, but Yours be done)

A command in the face of contradictory thoughts does not overrule or remove agreement, but it is a perfect instrument for actualizing trust

A command is where agreement is out of faithfulness rather than convenience

A command proves that agreement can be selfless and true-er than the flesh understands

A command requires that vital crucifixion of the hostility of the flesh

A believing soldier does not operate out of the flesh when they easily agree to be ready to happily obey commands without inhibition

 

Let’s Talk About Submission

>> Pop Quiz Question: when is submission really measurable?

Submission is most critical when people initially don’t “see eye to eye”, but then they prioritize something more important than what they see (i.e. they forsake their own perception)

Truth and Submission are needed, and truth still happens when Jesus speaks in parables and works in mysteries. If you are humble and submissive, you can still follow His words of life even when you’re waiting to understand why he just did something that would otherwise be offensive to you

When you respect someone more than yourself, you can quickly set aside mental felt “disagreements” in preference and difference to their superior perception/wisdom/insight/understanding

 

Submission & Commands

>> recall the title: Your Wish

 

Look: We Are Going After that Real Submission that has been lost, which we never see modeled in front of us, where no one is even making preparations for it to happen!

Submission and receiving COMMANDS is actually in the Bible! When are we (humans/church people) ever going to actually see this happen.

It is as though we were expecting the kingdom of heaven to come without us ever making room for commands to happen!

Perverts say, “I have to understand before I trust and obey” – they hypocritically want to act like they will “blindly trust” God but then when you speak to them on behalf of God they act like you (even if you are a proven righteous leader) are still under their scrutiny, cross-examination, and probation.

“We can’t move forward until we make your wicked mind happy and motivated to keep walking with us and keeping up with the minimal following” -- as one who lags behind a line of soldiers waiting for their pea brain to catch up with this spiritual march, as though they are the standard and bench mark for proving what is true.

Why not rather be so ashamed of your contemptible and worthless thoughts so as to trust others more than your scandalous and dangerous opinions and hazardous management of your own endangered life?

 

Has the word of God come only to you?

1Co_14:36 CAB  Or did the word of God go forth from you? Or did it come to you only?

1Co_14:36 Greek  ἢ ἀφ᾿ ὑμῶν ὁ λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐξῆλθεν, ἢ εἰς ὑμᾶς μόνους κατήντησεν;

 

Submitting when you do not understand is a sign/opportunity to display love/trust/ receiving someone’s usefulness

It is a display of Love when it is hard for you, but you show the commitment to sacrifice for them anyway – I love and trust you “this” much

Sometimes God thinks it is romantic for Abraham to offer Isaac even when Abraham does not currently know how the outcome should end positively

 

 

Let’s Talk About Love

Love would ultimately like to understand for the sake of closeness and relationship, but absolutely must agree quickly now for the sake of truth, and cannot help but trust wherever it is due, and will always be enthusiastically patient for the sake (and honorable ambition) of happily and joyfully displaying submission and faithfulness to another.

Love is excited to “bear all things”, under the weight of any truth, for the shear thrill of finally getting to do the impossible and submit to commands of truth, and agree with her friends where the flesh sees no hope.

Love feels privileged to distinguish itself from the shame of mundane doubt, in an opportunity of perfect and patient faithfulness, where it gleefully gets to sacrifice the selfish* and corruptible understanding, in an energetic leap of uninhibited obedience and action (because there is no fear in Love), as it hopes against hope, doing contradiction to the flesh, passing straight through where the flesh saw no hope, at once being one with God and all her brothers, never admitting a breach of agreement in Divinity, nor allowing hostility to arise out of fear, or doubt to have a place due to confusion.

>> *Srip: Love does not seek its own…

faithfulness and gain “the chance of a lifetime” to play out the character of Jesus.

Love would like to understand, but absolutely must agree and even rejoice/boast wherever there is truth,

You will not convince Love that her family is in disagreement, because all those who do her will are perfectly joined together and continue and remain in agreement for all time, surpassing all knowledge, operating from a birth that is from above, abstaining from the pitfalls that are here.

Love does not get drug down by the frictions, problems, or even conflicts that are here, because while men look forward to a future perfection and dread the present, Love works and lives with God from perfect eternity wooing men into her infinite reality.

All are alive to God, and all are perfect to Him whom they serve.

If we hope to inherit in this way, why do we yet wait for a future ideal? Now is the day of truth, and now is the time of Love. There is no disagreement in God, now also is the time where there is perfect agreement in the Children of God, who are already seated above, who already have eternal life, and who are already alive to God before even being raised from the dead!

>> Scrip /\

With such promises, we are bound to believe and agree and hope and side-step and arrange away from ourselves the temporary understandings of the fleshly mind, believing now in the perfect end, walking as God walks, presently existing out of eternity, sealed in truth forever, realizing the reward of heavenly life even in the present, believing more in eternity than in the current experience of the limited flesh, lifting our operation from ourselves into the judgments of God, relieving each other with love and hope, forgetting the grief of the flesh, living with each other out of truth, walking with each other as though the day of God is already here, remembering our newer eternal origin and heritage, not tripped up by the accusations of evil flesh, forgetting all offenses, denying all scandals against each other, apprehending the resurrected glory now by faith, assuring all who will Love, that God is even now One with them, and through them, and there is no need to admit one breach in hope with the children of God.

 

 

 

it is easily persuadable,

>> scrip

 

If you do not prepare your heart in this way, and you’ll never be fit to take commands from Jesus while traveling with Him on His Great proclamation adventure.

 

 

Work on Your Heart!

- always do work on your heart! - connect your prayer & Bible reading to your needs and then your mission

- never apathetically toss your heart mess on others -- like my niece leaving messes and forcing others to pay for her evil indulgence and lust...

- it is incredible how many people refuse to labor on cleansing their heart of perversity and evil, even when you tell them how, they cling to their complacency and sloppy selfish recklessness and indulgent damages

- labor to continually pry your heart off of evil things (incl. Sp warfare) unlike those who just give in and do satanic work against others

 

God Hates Your Flesh

Lamenting The Condemned and Completely Perverted Human Rebellion

 

Genesis 6 & 8 – All the Thoughts of Man are Brooding on Evil Continually

 

Genesis 6 – Mankind is Almost Completely Destroyed Because of His Unbridled Perversion

Gen_6:5-8 WEB  Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.  6  Yahweh was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.  7  Yahweh said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the surface of the ground; man, along with animals, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."  8  But Noah found favor in Yahweh's eyes.

Gen_6:5-8 ABP-2006  [beholding And the LORD God] that [were multiplying the evils of men] upon the earth, and all that [πᾶς τις] man considered [διανοεῖται] in his heart [καρδίᾳ] was diligently upon [ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ – in being upon, was concerning/caring upon] the wicked things [τὰ πονηρὰ – the perverted evil] all the days [πᾶς τις διανοεῖται ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας],  6  and God pondered [ἐνεθυμήθη] that he made the man upon the earth, and he considered it [διενοήθη].  7  And [said God], I will wipe away the man, whom I made, from the face of the earth; from man unto beast, and from the reptiles unto the winged creatures of the heaven; for I repented [ἐθυμώθην; some LXX: μετεμεληθηνG3338] that I made them.  8  But Noah found favor before the LORD God.

Gen_6:5-8 CAB  (6:6) And the Lord God, having seen that the wicked actions of men were multiplied upon the earth, and that everyone in his heart was intently brooding over evil continually [πᾶς τις διανοεῖται ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας],  6  (6:7) that God took it to heart that He had made man upon the earth, and He pondered it deeply.  7  (6:8) And God said, I will blot out man whom I have made from the face of the earth, even man and beast, and reptiles with flying creatures of the sky, for I am grieved that I have made them.  8  (6:9) But Noah found grace before the Lord God.

Gen_6:5-8 Greek  Ἰδὼν δὲ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὅτι ἐπληθύνθησαν αἱ κακίαι τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς καὶ πᾶς τις διανοεῖται ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας,  6  καὶ ἐνεθυμήθη ὁ θεὸς ὅτι ἐποίησεν τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, καὶ διενοήθη.  7  καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεός Ἀπαλείψω τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ὃν ἐποίησα, ἀπὸ προσώπου τῆς γῆς ἀπὸ ἀνθρώπου ἕως κτήνους καὶ ἀπὸ ἑρπετῶν ἕως τῶν πετεινῶν τοῦ οὐρανοῦ, ὅτι ἐθυμώθην ὅτι ἐποίησα αὐτούς.  8  Νωε δὲ εὗρεν χάριν ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ.

 

As a moral consequence for indulging in your own perception you are guilty of bringing about the genocide of the entire human race.

Oh, so you want to save the human race?  We might need to execute your worthless corpse to do that: Num_25:8

 

Numbers 25 – Phinehas Stops God’s Wrath & Plague by Killing the Pervert

Num_25:7-15 WEB  When Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from the midst of the congregation, and took a spear in his hand;  8  and he went after the man of Israel into the pavilion, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her body. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.  9  Those who died by the plague were twenty-four thousand.  10  Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,  11  Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, has turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, in that he was jealous with my jealousy among them, so that I didn't consume the children of Israel in my jealousy.  12  Therefore say, Behold, I give to him my covenant of peace:  13  and it shall be to him, and to his seed after him, the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was jealous for his God, and made atonement for the children of Israel.  14  Now the name of the man of Israel that was slain, who was slain with the Midianite woman, was Zimri, the son of Salu, a prince of a fathers' house among the Simeonites.  15  The name of the Midianite woman who was slain was Cozbi, the daughter of Zur; he was head of the people of a fathers' house in Midian.

Num_25:7-15 CAB  And Phinehas the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, and rose out of the midst of the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand,  8  and went in after the Israelite man into the chamber, and pierced them both through, both the Israelite man, and the woman through her womb; and the plague was stopped from the children of Israel.  9  And those that died in the plague were twenty-four thousand.  10  And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,  11  Phinehas the son of Eleazar the son of Aaron the priest has caused My wrath to cease from the children of Israel, when I was exceedingly jealous among them, and I did not consume the children of Israel in My jealousy.  12  Therefore say, Behold, I give to him My covenant of peace;  13  and he and his seed after him shall have a perpetual covenant of priesthood, because he was zealous for his God, and made atonement for the children of Israel.  14  Now the name of the smitten Israelite man, who was smitten with the Midianite woman, was Zambri son of Salmon, prince of a house of the tribe of Simeon.  15  And the name of the Midianite woman who was smitten, was Cozbi, daughter of Zur, a prince of the nation of Hommoth: it is a chief house among the people of Midian.

Num_25:7-15 Greek  καὶ ἰδὼν Φινεες υἱὸς Ελεαζαρ υἱοῦ Ααρων τοῦ ἱερέως ἐξανέστη ἐκ μέσου τῆς συναγωγῆς καὶ λαβὼν σειρομάστην ἐν τῇ χειρὶ  8  εἰσῆλθεν ὀπίσω τοῦ ἀνθρώπου τοῦ Ισραηλίτου εἰς τὴν κάμινον καὶ ἀπεκέντησεν ἀμφοτέρους, τόν τε ἄνθρωπον τὸν Ισραηλίτην καὶ τὴν γυναῖκα διὰ τῆς μήτρας αὐτῆς· καὶ ἐπαύσατο ἡ πληγὴ ἀπὸ υἱῶν Ισραηλ.  9  καὶ ἐγένοντο οἱ τεθνηκότες ἐν τῇ πληγῇ τέσσαρες καὶ εἴκοσι χιλιάδες.  10  Καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγων  11  Φινεες υἱὸς Ελεαζαρ υἱοῦ Ααρων τοῦ ἱερέως κατέπαυσεν τὸν θυμόν μου ἀπὸ υἱῶν Ισραηλ ἐν τῷ ζηλῶσαί μου τὸν ζῆλον ἐν αὐτοῖς, καὶ οὐκ ἐξανήλωσα τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ ἐν τῷ ζήλῳ μου.  12  οὕτως εἰπόν Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ δίδωμι αὐτῷ διαθήκην εἰρήνης,  13  καὶ ἔσται αὐτῷ καὶ τῷ σπέρματι αὐτοῦ μετ᾿ αὐτὸν διαθήκη ἱερατείας αἰωνία, ἀνθ᾿ ὧν ἐζήλωσεν τῷ θεῷ αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐξιλάσατο περὶ τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ.  14  τὸ δὲ ὄνομα τοῦ ἀνθρώπου τοῦ Ισραηλίτου τοῦ πεπληγότος, ὃς ἐπλήγη μετὰ τῆς Μαδιανίτιδος, Ζαμβρι υἱὸς Σαλω ἄρχων οἴκου πατριᾶς τῶν Συμεων·  15  καὶ ὄνομα τῇ γυναικὶ τῇ Μαδιανίτιδι τῇ πεπληγυίᾳ Χασβι θυγάτηρ Σουρ ἄρχοντος ἔθνους Ομμωθ, οἴκου πατριᾶς ἐστιν τῶν Μαδιαν.

 

Think: the one who made you has no pleasure in you – He almost annihilated your entire race!

Ecc_5:4 – No pleasure in fools

Heb_10:38-39 – No pleasure in the one who stations under

 

Genesis 8 – The Righteousness of One Man (Noah) Restricts The Just Execution of Countless Hordes of Perverts

Gen_8:21 WEB  Yahweh smelled the pleasant aroma. Yahweh said in his heart, "I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake, because the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I ever again strike everything living, as I have done.

Gen_8:21 ABP-2006  And the LORD smelled [ὠσφράνθη] the scent of pleasant aroma [ὀσμὴν εὐωδίας]. And [said the LORD God], In considering [διανοηθείς], I will not add yet to curse the earth [Οὐ προσθήσω ἔτι τοῦ καταράσασθαι τὴν γῆν] on account of [διὰ – through/because of/on account of] the works [ἔργα] of men, for [ὅτι – (in) that (CAB & others wrongly have because)] [clings [ἔγκειται] the thought [ἡ διάνοιαN-NSF] of man] upon [ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ  – in being upon, concerning/caring upon] the wicked things [τὰ πονηρὰ] from [ἐκ – out of] his youth [ἔγκειταιδιάνοια τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ ἐκ νεότητος]. I will not add then still to strike all [flesh living] as I did.

Gen_8:21 CAB  And the Lord God smelled [ὠσφράνθη] an aroma of sweetness [ὀσμὴν εὐωδίας], and the Lord God having considered [διανοηθείς], said, I will never again curse the earth [Οὐ προσθήσω ἔτι τοῦ καταράσασθαι τὴν γῆν], because of [διὰ – through/on account of] the works [ἔργα] of men, because [ὅτι – (in) that] the imagination [διάνοια] of man is intently bent upon evil things from his youth [ἔγκειται ἡ διάνοια τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ ἐκ νεότητος], I will never again smite all living flesh as I have done.

Gen_8:21 Greek  καὶ ὠσφράνθη κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὀσμὴν εὐωδίας, καὶ εἶπεν κύριος ὁ θεὸς διανοηθείς Οὐ προσθήσω ἔτι τοῦ καταράσασθαι τὴν γῆν διὰ τὰ ἔργα τῶν ἀνθρώπων, ὅτι ἔγκειται ἡ διάνοια τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπιμελῶς ἐπὶ τὰ πονηρὰ ἐκ νεότητος· οὐ προσθήσω οὖν ἔτι πατάξαι πᾶσαν σάρκα ζῶσαν, καθὼς ἐποίησα.

 

Psalm 10 – The Raging of The Strong And Independent Flesh

Psa_10:4-7 WEB  The wicked, in the pride of his face, has no room in his thoughts for God.  5  His ways are prosperous at all times. He is haughty, and your laws are far from his sight. As for all his adversaries, he sneers at them.  6  He says in his heart, "I shall not be shaken. For generations I shall have no trouble."  7  His mouth is full of cursing, deceit, and oppression. Under his tongue is mischief and iniquity.

Psa_10:4-7 CAB  The sinner has provoked the Lord: according to the abundance of his pride he will not seek after Him; God is not before him.  5  His ways are profane at all times; Your judgments are removed from before him: he will gain the mastery over all his enemies.  6  For he has said in his heart, I shall not be moved, continuing without adversity from generation to generation.  7  Whose mouth is full of cursing, and bitterness, and fraud: under his tongue are trouble and pain.

Psa_10:4-7 Greek  (9:25) παρώξυνεν τὸν κύριον ὁ ἁμαρτωλός Κατὰ τὸ πλῆθος τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ οὐκ ἐκζητήσει· οὐκ ἔστιν ὁ θεὸς ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ.  5  (9:26) βεβηλοῦνται αἱ ὁδοὶ αὐτοῦ ἐν παντὶ καιρῷ, ἀνταναιρεῖται τὰ κρίματά σου ἀπὸ προσώπου αὐτοῦ, πάντων τῶν ἐχθρῶν αὐτοῦ κατακυριεύσει·  6  (9:27) εἶπεν γὰρ ἐν καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ Οὐ μὴ σαλευθῶ, ἀπὸ γενεᾶς εἰς γενεὰν ἄνευ κακοῦ.  7  (9:28) οὗ ἀρᾶς τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ γέμει καὶ πικρίας καὶ δόλου, ὑπὸ τὴν γλῶσσαν αὐτοῦ κόπος καὶ πόνος.

 

Read

·        Psa_14:1-3 LXX

·        Rom_3:14, etc.

 

Others

that he bless: Deu_17:2, Num_15:30 (presumptuous), Psa_10:11, Psa_49:18 (MT) Psa_94:6, Psa_94:7, Pro_29:1, Jer_5:12, Jer_5:13, Jer_7:3-11, Jer_28:15-17, Jer_44:16, Jer_44:17, Jer_44:27, Eze_13:16, Eze_13:22, Eph_5:6

though I walk: Num_15:30, Ecc_11:9, Rom_1:21, 2Co_10:5, Eph_4:17

imagination: or, stubbornness, Jer_3:17, Jer_7:24, *marg.

Gen_8:21, Deu_29:19 (flatters heart), Job_15:16, Pro_6:18, Ecc_7:29, Ecc_9:3, Jer_17:9, Eze_8:9, Eze_8:12, Mat_15:19, Mar_7:21-23, Eph_2:1-3, Tit_3:3 - we were "once"

God-Hatred: Jas_4:4; Mat_6:24; Rom_8:7

 

Sir_10:16-18 Brenton The Lord overthrew countries of the heathen, and destroyed them to the foundations of the earth. 17 He took some of them away, and destroyed them, and hath made their memorial to cease from the earth. 18 Pride was not made for men, nor furious anger for them that are born of a woman.

 

H: "pride" - is it that not only are they doing evil but they boast in it and are glad in it instead of being ashamed of their bondship to evil?

 

>> Miranda: so instead of giving yourself to your own perception, you give yourself to the authority of obeying a righteous teaching of another person.

 

Proverbs 28 – MT: He Who Trusts In His Own Heart Is A Fool vs. LXX: Trusting in a Bold Heart…

Pro_28:25-26 WEB  One who is greedy stirs up strife; but one who trusts in Yahweh will prosper.  26  One who trusts in himself is a fool; but one who walks in wisdom is kept safe.

Pro_28:25-26 YLT  Whoso is proud in soul stirreth up contention, And whoso is trusting on Jehovah is made fat.

 26  Whoso is trusting in his heart is a fool, And whoso is walking in wisdom is delivered.

Pro_28:25-26 CAB  An unbelieving man judges rashly, but he that trusts in the Lord will act carefully.  26  He that trusts to a bold heart, such a one is a fool: but he that walks in wisdom shall be safe.

Pro_28:26 Greek  ὃς πέποιθεν θρασείᾳ καρδίᾳ, ὁ τοιοῦτος ἄφρων· ὃς δὲ πορεύεται σοφίᾳ, σωθήσεται.

 

Psalm 36 – Detecting And Hating Sin… – A Translational Challenge…

Psa_36:1-3 WEB  An oracle is within my heart about the disobedience of the wicked: "There is no fear of God before his eyes."  2  For he flatters himself in his own eyes, too much to detect and hate his sin.  3  The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit. He has ceased to be wise and to do good.

Psa_36:1-3 CAB  For the end, A Psalm, by David the servant of the Lord. The transgressor, that he may sin, says within himself, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.  2  For he has dealt craftily before him, to discover his iniquity and hate it.  3  The words of his mouth are transgression and deceit; he is not inclined to understand how to do good.

Psa_36:1-3 Greek  (35:1) Εἰς τὸ τέλος· τῷ δούλῳ κυρίου τῷ Δαυιδ. (35:2) Φησὶν ὁ παράνομος τοῦ ἁμαρτάνειν ἐν ἑαυτῷ, οὐκ ἔστιν φόβος θεοῦ ἀπέναντι τῶν ὀφθαλμῶν αὐτοῦ·  2  (35:3) ὅτι ἐδόλωσεν ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ τοῦ εὑρεῖν τὴν ἀνομίαν αὐτοῦ καὶ μισῆσαι.  3  (35:4) τὰ ῥήματα τοῦ στόματος αὐτοῦ ἀνομία καὶ δόλος, οὐκ ἐβουλήθη συνιέναι τοῦ ἀγαθῦναι·

 

Pulpit: “For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful. Another very obscure verse, explained in various ways. The rendering of Professor Alexander is to be preferred, "For he fiattereth himself in his own eyes, as to God"s finding his sin and hating it;" i.e. he flatters himself that he will conceal his sin from God, so that God will not discover it to hate it (see also the comment of Dr. Kay, and the Revised Version)”

 

Clark: “For he flattereth himself - He is ruled by the suggestion already mentioned; endeavours to persuade himself that he may safely follow the propensities of his own heart, until his iniquity be found to be hateful. He sins so boldly, that at last he becomes detestable. Some think the words should be thus understood: “He smootheth over in his own eyes with respect to the finding out of his iniquity, to hate it. That is, he sets such a false gloss in his own eyes upon his worst actions, that he never finds out the blackness of his iniquity; which were it perceived by him, would be hateful even to himself.” - Bishop Horsley.”

 

Leper vs. Luxury?

 

Leviticus 13, 2-3 – And The Priest Shall Examine The Plague

Lev_13:2-3 WEB  "When a man shall have a rising in his body's skin, or a scab, or a bright spot, and it becomes in the skin of his body the plague of leprosy, then he shall be brought to Aaron the priest, or to one of his sons, the priests:  3  and the priest shall examine the plague in the skin of the body... and the priest shall examine him, and pronounce him unclean.

Lev_13:2-3 CAB  If any man should have in the skin of his flesh a bright clear spot, and there should be in the skin of his flesh a plague of leprosy, he shall be brought to Aaron the priest, or to one of his sons the priests.  3  And the priest shall view the spot in the skin of his flesh... and the priest shall look upon it, and pronounce him unclean.

Lev_13:2-3 Greek  Ἀνθρώπῳ ἐάν τινι γένηται ἐν δέρματι χρωτὸς αὐτοῦ οὐλὴ σημασίας τηλαυγὴς καὶ γένηται ἐν δέρματι χρωτὸς αὐτοῦ ἁφὴ λέπρας, καὶ ἀχθήσεται πρὸς Ααρων τὸν ἱερέα ἢ ἕνα τῶν υἱῶν αὐτοῦ τῶν ἱερέων.  3  καὶ ὄψεται ὁ ἱερεὺς τὴν ἁφὴν ἐν δέρματι τοῦ χρωτὸς αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἡ θρὶξ ἐν τῇ ἁφῇ μεταβάλῃ λευκή, καὶ ἡ ὄψις τῆς ἁφῆς ταπεινὴ ἀπὸ τοῦ δέρματος τοῦ χρωτός, ἁφὴ λέπρας ἐστίν· καὶ ὄψεται ὁ ἱερεὺς καὶ μιανεῖ αὐτόν.

 

Leviticus 13, 44-46 – The Leper Cries "Unclean"

Lev_13:44-46 WEB  he is a leprous man. He is unclean. The priest shall surely pronounce him unclean. His plague is on his head.  45  "The leper in whom the plague is shall wear torn clothes, and the hair of his head shall hang loose. He shall cover his upper lip, and shall cry, 'Unclean! Unclean!'  46  All the days in which the plague is in him he shall be unclean. He is unclean. He shall dwell alone. Outside of the camp shall be his dwelling.

Lev_13:44-46 CAB  then he is a leprous man; the priest shall surely pronounce him unclean, his plague is in his head.  45  And the leper in whom the plague is, let his garments be torn, and his head uncovered; and let him have a covering put upon his mouth, and he shall be called unclean.  46  All the days in which the plague shall be upon him, being unclean, he shall be esteemed unclean; he shall dwell apart, his place of sojourn shall be outside the camp.

Lev_13:44-46 Greek  ἄνθρωπος λεπρός ἐστιν· μιάνσει μιανεῖ αὐτὸν ὁ ἱερεύς, ἐν τῇ κεφαλῇ αὐτοῦ ἡ ἁφὴ αὐτοῦ.  45  Καὶ ὁ λεπρός, ἐν ᾧ ἐστιν ἡ ἁφή, τὰ ἱμάτια αὐτοῦ ἔστω παραλελυμένα καὶ ἡ κεφαλὴ αὐτοῦ ἀκατακάλυπτος, καὶ περὶ τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ περιβαλέσθω καὶ ἀκάθαρτος κεκλήσεται·  46  πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας, ὅσας ἂν ᾖ ἐπ᾿ αὐτοῦ ἡ ἁφή, ἀκάθαρτος ὢν ἀκάθαρτος ἔσται· κεχωρισμένος καθήσεται, ἔξω τῆς παρεμβολῆς ἔσται αὐτοῦ ἡ διατριβή .

 

And it goes on to discuss…

 

Leviticus 13, 47-50 – Leprosy in the Clothing

Lev_13:47-50 WEB  "The garment also that the plague of leprosy is in... shall be shown to the priest.  50  The priest shall examine the plague...

Lev_13:47-50 CAB  And if a garment have in it the plague of leprosy… he shall show it to the priest.  50  And the priest shall look upon the plague…

Lev_13:47-50 Greek  Καὶ ἱματίῳ ἐὰν γένηται ἐν αὐτῷ ἁφὴ λέπρας, ἐν ἱματίῳ ἐρεῷ ἢ ἐν ἱματίῳ στιππυίνῳ,  48  ἢ ἐν στήμονι ἢ ἐν κρόκῃ ἢ ἐν τοῖς λινοῖς ἢ ἐν τοῖς ἐρεοῖς ἢ ἐν δέρματι ἢ ἐν παντὶ ἐργασίμῳ δέρματι,  49  καὶ γένηται ἡ ἁφὴ χλωρίζουσα ἢ πυρρίζουσα ἐν τῷ δέρματι ἢ ἐν τῷ ἱματίῳ ἢ ἐν τῷ στήμονι ἢ ἐν τῇ κρόκῃ ἢ ἐν παντὶ σκεύει ἐργασίμῳ δέρματος, ἁφὴ λέπρας ἐστίν, καὶ δείξει τῷ ἱερεῖ.  50  καὶ ὄψεται ὁ ἱερεὺς τὴν ἁφήν, καὶ ἀφοριεῖ ὁ ἱερεὺς τὴν ἁφὴν ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας.

 

Jude tells us about this

 

Leprosy Linked with Sin – What does This Shame of Leprosy Ultimately Mean?

 

·        Num_12:1-15 – “Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses…”

·        Num_12:9-16 – Miriam made leprous

 

Then in the reminder / retelling of the Law it mysteriously says…

 

Deu_24:8-9 WEB  Take heed in the plague of leprosy, that you observe diligently, and do according to all that the priests the Levites shall teach you: as I commanded them, so you shall observe to do.  9  Remember what Yahweh your God did to Miriam, by the way as you came forth out of Egypt.

Deu_24:8-9 CAB  Take heed to yourself regarding the plague of leprosy: you shall take great heed to do according to all the law, which the priests, the Levites, shall report to you; take heed to do, as I have commanded you.  9  Remember all that the Lord your God did to Miriam in the way, when you were going out of Egypt.

Deu_24:8-9 Greek  Πρόσεχε σεαυτῷ ἐν τῇ ἁφῇ τῆς λέπρας· φυλάξῃ σφόδρα ποιεῖν κατὰ πάντα τὸν νόμον, ὃν ἐὰν ἀναγγείλωσιν ὑμῖν οἱ ἱερεῖς οἱ Λευῖται· ὃν τρόπον ἐνετειλάμην ὑμῖν, φυλάξασθε ποιεῖν.  9  μνήσθητι ὅσα ἐποίησεν κύριος ὁ θεός σου τῇ Μαριαμ ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ ἐκπορευομένων ὑμῶν ἐξ Αἰγύπτου.

 

 

 

“I am Unclean” – The Consistent Response of the Humble

 

Luke 5 – Peter Says, ‘Go Out from Me, in that I am a Sinful Man, Lord’

Luk_5:8-11 CAB  When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, "Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!"  9  For astonishment gripped him and all who were with him at the haul of fish which they had taken.  10  And likewise also it gripped James and John, the sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, "Do not fear; from now on you shall be catching men."  11  And having brought the boats to land, they left everything and followed Him.

Luk_5:8-11 Greek  ἰδὼν δὲ Σίμων Πέτρος προσέπεσεν τοῖς γόνασιν ᾿Ιησοῦ λέγων· ἔξελθε ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ, ὅτι ἀνὴρ ἁμαρτωλός εἰμι, Κύριε.  9  θάμβος γὰρ περιέσχεν αὐτὸν καὶ πάντας τοὺς σὺν αὐτῷ ἐπὶ τῇ ἄγρᾳ τῶν ἰχθύων ᾗ συνέλαβον,  10  ὁμοίως δὲ καὶ ᾿Ιάκωβον καὶ ᾿Ιωάννην, υἱοὺς Ζεβεδαίου, οἳ ἦσαν κοινωνοὶ τῷ Σίμωνι. καὶ εἶπε πρὸς τὸν Σίμωνα ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· μὴ φοβοῦ· ἀπὸ τοῦ νῦν ἀνθρώπους ἔσῃ ζωγρῶν.  11  καὶ καταγαγόντες τὰ πλοῖα ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν, ἀφέντες ἅπαντα ἠκολούθησαν αὐτῷ.

 

·        Even the dogs eat the crumbs…

·        Jesus healed the lepers and received the redemption of the woman’s faith

 

Notice: All of this humiliation vs. what follows…

 

2Peter 2 – The Perverts That Riot In Daytime

 

2Pe_2:13 CAB  receiving the wages of unrighteousness, counting as a pleasure to revel in the daytime, they are spots and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions while they feast with you,

2Pe_2:13 Greek  κομιούμενοι μισθὸν ἀδικίας· ἡδονὴν ἡγούμενοι τὴν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ τρυφήν, σπίλοι καὶ μῶμοι, ἐντρυφῶντες ἐν ταῖς ἀπάταις αὐτῶν συνευωχούμενοι ὑμῖν,

 

As is consistent, Jude also speaks mysteries in this same light by saying…

 

Jude’s Hatred – Hating The Clothing Stained by the [Leprosy of the Defiled] Flesh

Jud_1:22-23 CAB  And have mercy on some, making a distinction;  23  but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating even the garment having been stained by the flesh.

Jud_1:22-23 Greek  καὶ οὓς μὲν ἐλεεῖτε διακρινόμενοι,  23  οὓς δὲ ἐν φόβῳ σώζετε, ἐκ πυρὸς ἁρπάζοντες, μισοῦντες καὶ τὸν ἀπὸ τῆς σαρκὸς ἐσπιλωμένον χιτῶνα.

Jud_1:22-23 GNT-V  και ους μεν Aελεατε TSBελεειτε Aδιακρινομενους TSBδιακρινομενοι  23  ους δε TSBεν TSBφοβω σωζετε εκ TSτου πυρος αρπαζοντες Aους Aδε Aελεατε Aεν Aφοβω μισουντες και τον απο της σαρκος εσπιλωμενον χιτωνα

 

Remember what Leviticus says about this?

 

Summary: From Leprosy in Some People’s Flesh to Sin in All Flesh

·        People like Job and Naomi played the parable of those whom God testifies against

·        Miriam displayed the profound cross-over to the main point

·        Jude tells us of the fullness of the plague of leprosy

·        People who temporarily cash in on spiting at the parable always miss the salvation of hating what it points to

 

If you support your own flesh, you will be cursed and cast away with these words…

·        Psa_6:8 Away from me, all you who do evil…

·        Psa_119:115 Away from me, you evildoers…

·        Mat_7:23 Depart from me…

·        Get away you nauseating lepers who audaciously promoted your own filth…

 

Romans 8 – Jesus Judged Down Sin In Sinful Man!

Rom_8:3-4 CAB  For ·what was impossible for the law to do [ἀδύνατον τοῦ νόμου] in that ·it [??] was weak through the flesh [ᾧ ἠσθένει διὰ τῆς σαρκός], God did by sending His own Son in the likeness [ἐν ὁμοιώματι] of sinful flesh [σαρκὸς ἁμαρτίας], and concerning [περὶ] sin, ·He condemned [judged down] sin in the flesh [κατέκρινε τὴν ἁμαρτίαν ἐν τῇ σαρκί],  4  so that the ·righteous requirement [δικαίωμα] of the law might be fulfilled [πληρωθῇ] in us ·[those] who do not ·walk [around] [down] according [κατὰ σάρκα περιπατοῦσιν] to the flesh but [ἀλλὰ] [down] according to the Spirit [τοῖς μὴ κατὰ σάρκα περιπατοῦσιν, ἀλλὰ κατὰ πνεῦμα].

Rom_8:3-4 Greek  τὸ γὰρ ἀδύνατον τοῦ νόμου, ἐν ᾧ ἠσθένει διὰ τῆς σαρκός, ὁ Θεὸς τὸν ἑαυτοῦ υἱὸν πέμψας ἐν ὁμοιώματι σαρκὸς ἁμαρτίας καὶ περὶ ἁμαρτίας, κατέκρινε τὴν ἁμαρτίαν ἐν τῇ σαρκί,  4  ἵνα τὸ δικαίωμα τοῦ νόμου πληρωθῇ ἐν ἡμῖν τοῖς μὴ κατὰ σάρκα περιπατοῦσιν, ἀλλὰ κατὰ πνεῦμα·

 

 

Mourn Over Your Worthless Death Now, and Hate Your Shameful Evil Before You Are Cursed for it Forever!

Imagine yourself dying in the middle of your worthless shame and failure…

 

False Intellectual Humility

There are a lot of people who are so accustomed to saying (“admitting”) that they are “not that smart”, but then these same people heavily trust and potently operate in their intellect.

 

 

You should be the very first to say, alas! How unbelieving my heart, and unloving! And cold! and dull, bling foolish! I am in agony!

Only thing that stops this is raging foolishness of luxury...

>> TSK: to flatter to detect and hate sin...

 

Ecclesiastes 9 – Flesh is Full of Evil And Madness It’s Whole Life! – Let this Drive You into Exasperation Until You Repent!

Ecc_9:3 WEB  This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that there is one event to all: yes also, the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

Ecc_9:3 CAB  There is this evil [πονηρὸν] in all that is done under the sun, that there is one event to all [συνάντημα ἓν τοῖς πᾶσιν]. Yea [καί γε – and moreover/indeed], the heart of the sons of men is filled with evil [ἐπληρώθη πονηροῦ], and madness is in their heart during their life [περιφέρεια ἐν καρδίᾳ αὐτῶν ἐν ζωῇ αὐτῶν], and after that they go to the dead [ὀπίσω αὐτῶν πρὸς τοὺς νεκρούς].

Ecc_9:3 Greek  τοῦτο πονηρὸν ἐν παντὶ πεποιημένῳ ὑπὸ τὸν ἥλιον, ὅτι συνάντημα ἓν τοῖς πᾶσιν· καί γε καρδία υἱῶν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπληρώθη πονηροῦ, καὶ περιφέρεια ἐν καρδίᾳ αὐτῶν ἐν ζωῇ αὐτῶν, καὶ ὀπίσω αὐτῶν πρὸς τοὺς νεκρούς.

 

>> if then, you know it is pure madness, will you continue to take it seriously, or will you finally give it the violent rejection that it is worthy of?

 

 

Ecclesiastes 11 – MT: Go Ahead, Follow Your Happy Heart into Hell! vs. LXX: Only Follow Blamelessly…

MT & LXX: Come To Terms With Your Vanity And Judgment Now, And Stop Sinning

 

Ecc_11:8-10 WEB  Yes, if a man lives many years, let him rejoice in them all; but let him remember the days of darkness, for they shall be many. All that comes is vanity.  9  Rejoice, young man, in your youth, and let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth, and walk in the ways of your heart, and in the sight of your eyes; but know that for all these things God will bring you into judgment.  10  Therefore remove sorrow from your heart, and put away evil from your flesh; for youth and the dawn of life are vanity.

Ecc_11:8-10 CAB  ·For even if a man should live many years [ὅτι καὶ ἐὰν ἔτη πολλὰ ζήσεται ὁ ἄνθρωπος], and rejoice in them all [ἐν πᾶσιν αὐτοῖς εὐφρανθήσεται]; ·yet [also] let him remember [καὶ μνησθήσεται] the days of darkness; for [ὅτι] they shall be many [πολλαὶ]. All that comes is vanity [πᾶν τὸ ἐρχόμενον ματαιότης; useless, waistful, purposless, idel, fruitless, vanity… (fig. empty/foolish) “at random, without reason” (L&S) (G3155 > G3152 > G3153)].  9  Rejoice [Εὐφραίνου], ·O young man [νεανίσκε], in your youth [ἐν νεότητί σου]; and let your heart cheer in the days of your youth [ἀγαθυνάτω σε ἡ καρδία σου ἐν ἡμέραις νεότητός σου], ·and walk [περιπάτει] in the ways of your heart ·blameless [ABP: αμωμος/unblemished; CT: spotless; not in Rahlfs or NETS], ·but not [not in Rahlfs, ABP, CT, or NETS] [καὶ – and] in the sight of your eyes [καὶ περιπάτει ἐν ὁδοῖς καρδίας σου καὶ ἐν ὁράσει ὀφθαλμῶν σου]: yet [καὶ – and] know that for [ἐπὶ – upon] all these things ·[the] God will bring [ἄξει] you into judgment [ἄξει σε ὁ θεὸς ἐν κρίσει].  10  Therefore [καὶ] remove [ἀπόστησον] sorrow [θυμὸν – ABP: rage; CT: wrath] from your heart, and ·put away [παράγαγε] evil [πονηρίαν] from your flesh; ·for [ὅτι – (in) that] youth [νεότης] and folly [ἡ ἄνοια] are vanity [ὅτι ἡ νεότης καὶ ἡ ἄνοια ματαιότης].

Ecc_11:8-10 Greek  ὅτι καὶ ἐὰν ἔτη πολλὰ ζήσεται ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ἐν πᾶσιν αὐτοῖς εὐφρανθήσεται καὶ μνησθήσεται τὰς ἡμέρας τοῦ σκότους, ὅτι πολλαὶ ἔσονται· πᾶν τὸ ἐρχόμενον ματαιότης.  9  Εὐφραίνου, νεανίσκε, ἐν νεότητί σου, καὶ ἀγαθυνάτω σε ἡ καρδία σου ἐν ἡμέραις νεότητός σου, καὶ περιπάτει ἐν ὁδοῖς καρδίας σου καὶ ἐν ὁράσει ὀφθαλμῶν σου καὶ γνῶθι ὅτι ἐπὶ πᾶσι τούτοις ἄξει σε ὁ θεὸς ἐν κρίσει.  10  καὶ ἀπόστησον θυμὸν ἀπὸ καρδίας σου καὶ παράγαγε πονηρίαν ἀπὸ σαρκός σου, ὅτι ἡ νεότης καὶ ἡ ἄνοια ματαιότης.

 

The Point: God will judge you if you do not quickly recoil from the vanity of your own frame

 

Jeremiah 17 – God Searches & Knows Your Exceedingly Complicated & Illusive Heart, And You Don’t!

Jer_17:9-10 WEB  The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?  10  I, Yahweh, search the mind, I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Jer_17:9-10 CAB  ·The heart is deep [βαθεῖα] beyond [παρὰ] all things [βαθεῖα ἡ καρδία παρὰ πάντα], and it constitutes the man [ἄνθρωπός ἐστιν], and who can know him [τίς γνώσεται αὐτόν]?  10  I, the Lord, search [ἐτάζων] the hearts, and test [δοκιμάζων] the mind [νεφροὺς], to give to everyone according to his ways, and according to the fruits of his doings [ἐπιτηδευμάτων]. 11  The partridge utters her voice; she gathers eggs which she did not lay. So is a man gaining his wealth unjustly: in the midst of his days his riches shall leave him, and at his latter end he will be a fool.

Jer_17:9-10 Greek  βαθεῖα ἡ καρδία παρὰ πάντα, καὶ ἄνθρωπός ἐστιν· καὶ τίς γνώσεται αὐτόν;  10  ἐγὼ κύριος ἐτάζων καρδίας καὶ δοκιμάζων νεφροὺς τοῦ δοῦναι ἑκάστῳ κατὰ τὰς ὁδοὺς αὐτοῦ καὶ κατὰ τοὺς καρποὺς τῶν ἐπιτηδευμάτων αὐτοῦ. --

 

The Point: in v. 10: God is holding you accountable for the actions that spring out of your unknown heart. – Jesus really does come and condemn this!!

 

>> Remember: and all your unknown sins of luxury will be counted as willful sins at judgment.

 

Crimes of Making Guess-Judgments on Hidden Things & Boasting in Your Demonic “Perception”

 

Religious spirits (A) hype you up to be firm and zealous to (B) asert a reality that (C) establishes your perception as divine (i.e. true) (D) at the expense of Truth. Religious Spirits "sanctify" an aggression in you, emboldening you to violate sub-conscious / ignored / temporarily unnoticed needs / demands for integrty.

Often: You are hurt with darkness as a result. And for those w a conscious: you really don't want to do this, but the demands of your religious spirit torcher you into it -- now which one of these are you going to love and spare? Know that someone needs to die: (1) integrity/sanity/love/softness/ justice, or (2) your religious rights to believe and assert your reality / belief / perception

 

 

Numbers 15 – Following Your Own Eyes And Inner-Thoughts Is Harlotry

 

Num_15:38-40 WEB  Speak to the children of Israel, and tell them that they should make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put on the fringe of each border a cord of blue:  39  and it shall be to you for a fringe, that you may look on it, and remember all the commandments of Yahweh, and do them; and that you not follow after your own heart [travel the border seeking (תתורוH8446) after (אחריH310) 'your own heart'... – "After: A time to come beyond another event...II. Other: A time, person or thing that follows after" (AHLB)] *and [after (ואחריH310)] your own eyes [(עיניכםH5869)], after which ["אשׁרH834" straight(ly)]  you use to play the prostitute [זניםH2181];  40  that you may remember and do all my commandments, and be holy to your God.

 

Num_15:38-40 CAB  Speak to the children of Israel, and you shall tell them; and let them make for themselves fringes upon the borders of their garments throughout their generations; and you shall put blue lace upon the fringes of the borders.  39  And it shall be on your fringes, and you shall look on them [ὄψεσθε], and you shall remember [μνησθήσεσθε] all the commands of the Lord, and do them. And you shall *not turn back [διαστραφήσεσθε] after your imaginations [* οὐ διαστραφήσεσθε ὀπίσω τῶν διανοιῶν ὑμῶν], and after the sight of your eyes [ὀπίσω τῶν ὀφθαλμῶν ὑμῶν] in the things after which you go a whoring [ἐν οἷς ὑμεῖς ἐκπορνεύετε ὀπίσω αὐτῶν],  40  that you may remember and perform all My commands, and you shall be holy unto your God.

Num_15:38-40 Greek  Λάλησον τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ καὶ ἐρεῖς πρὸς αὐτοὺς καὶ ποιησάτωσαν ἑαυτοῖς κράσπεδα ἐπὶ τὰ πτερύγια τῶν ἱματίων αὐτῶν εἰς τὰς γενεὰς αὐτῶν καὶ ἐπιθήσετε ἐπὶ τὰ κράσπεδα τῶν πτερυγίων κλῶσμα ὑακίνθινον.  39  καὶ ἔσται ὑμῖν ἐν τοῖς κρασπέδοις καὶ ὄψεσθε αὐτὰ καὶ μνησθήσεσθε πασῶν τῶν ἐντολῶν κυρίου καὶ ποιήσετε αὐτὰς καὶ οὐ διαστραφήσεσθε ὀπίσω τῶν διανοιῶν ὑμῶν καὶ ὀπίσω τῶν ὀφθαλμῶν ὑμῶν, ἐν οἷς ὑμεῖς ἐκπορνεύετε ὀπίσω αὐτῶν,  40  ὅπως ἂν μνησθῆτε καὶ ποιήσητε πάσας τὰς ἐντολάς μου καὶ ἔσεσθε ἅγιοι τῷ θεῷ ὑμῶν.

 

 

Eyes – "the scope of personal judgment or opinion (Jdg_17:6); and the source of self-assessment (Pro_26:5)" (WS on H5869)

[Pro = MT only]

 

 

Sirens Can Kill You Too – People Never Learn From Other People’s Mistakes

People are facing the “Sirens”, always noting how others are blind, and then turning around only to immediately think that they see (therefore, their sin remains)

 

 

Deuteronomy 29 – Don’t Approve of Yourself and Judge Others Out of Your Own Fornicating Perception

 

V. 2-4 – MT, LXX

Deu_29:2-4 WEB  Moses called to all Israel, and said to them, You have seen all that Yahweh did before your eyes in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land;  3  the great trials which your eyes saw, the signs, and those great wonders:  4  but Yahweh has not given you a heart to know, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, to this day.

Deu_29:2-4 CAB  And Moses called all the sons of Israel and said to them, You have seen all things that the Lord did in the land of Egypt before you to Pharaoh and his servants, and all his land;  3  the great temptations which your eyes have seen, the signs, and those great wonders.  4  Yet the Lord God has not given you a heart to know, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, until this day.

Deu_29:2-4  (29:1) Καὶ ἐκάλεσεν Μωυσῆς πάντας τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς Ὑμεῖς ἑωράκατε πάντα, ὅσα ἐποίησεν κύριος ἐν γῇ Αἰγύπτῳ ἐνώπιον ὑμῶν Φαραω καὶ τοῖς θεράπουσιν αὐτοῦ καὶ πάσῃ τῇ γῇ αὐτοῦ,  (3)  (29:2) τοὺς πειρασμοὺς τοὺς μεγάλους, οὓς ἑωράκασιν οἱ ὀφθαλμοί σου, τὰ σημεῖα καὶ τὰ τέρατα τὰ μεγάλα ἐκεῖνα  (4)  (29:3) καὶ οὐκ ἔδωκεν κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῖν καρδίαν εἰδέναι καὶ ὀφθαλμοὺς βλέπειν καὶ ὦτα ἀκούειν ἕως τῆς ἡμέρας ταύτης.

 

V. 16-18 – MT, LXX

Deu_29:16-18 WEB  (for you know how we lived in the land of Egypt, and how we came through the midst of the nations through which you passed;  17  and you have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them);  18  lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turns away this day from Yahweh our God, to go to serve the gods of those nations; lest there should be among you a root that bears gall and wormwood [see: Hebrews];

Deu_29:16-18 CAB  For you know how we dwelt in the land of Egypt, how we came through the midst of the nations through whom you came.  17  And you beheld their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which are among them.  18  Lest there be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart has turned aside from the Lord your God, having gone to serve the gods of these nations; lest there be in you a root springing up with gall and bitterness.

Deu_29:16-18  (29:15) ὅτι ὑμεῖς οἴδατε ὡς κατῳκήσαμεν ἐν γῇ Αἰγύπτῳ καὶ παρήλθομεν ἐν μέσῳ τῶν ἐθνῶν, οὓς παρήλθετε,  (17)  (29:16) καὶ εἴδετε τὰ βδελύγματα αὐτῶν καὶ τὰ εἴδωλα αὐτῶν, ξύλον καὶ λίθον, ἀργύριον καὶ χρυσίον, ἅ ἐστιν παρ᾿ αὐτοῖς.  (18)  (29:17) μή τίς ἐστιν ἐν ὑμῖν ἀνὴρ ἢ γυνὴ ἢ πατριὰ ἢ φυλή, τίνος ἡ διάνοια ἐξέκλινεν ἀπὸ κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν πορεύεσθαι λατρεύειν τοῖς θεοῖς τῶν ἐθνῶν ἐκείνων; μή τίς ἐστιν ἐν ὑμῖν ῥίζα ἄνω φύουσα ἐν χολῇ καὶ πικρίᾳ;

 

V. 19-29 – MT, LXX

Deu_29:19-29 WEB  and it happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart, to destroy the moist with the dry [KJV (with some older commentators?): to add drunkenness to thirst; but MT? & LXX seems to expand on a WEB understanding, that may also fit with Luk_23:28-31].  20  Yahweh will not pardon him, but then the anger of Yahweh and his jealousy will smoke against that man, and all the curse that is written in this book shall lie on him, and Yahweh will blot out his name from under the sky.  21  Yahweh will set him apart to evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that is written in this book of the law.  22  The generation to come, your children who shall rise up after you, and the foreigner who shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses with which Yahweh has made it sick;  23  and that the whole land of it is sulfur, and salt, and a burning, that it is not sown, nor bears, nor any grass grows therein, like the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which Yahweh overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:  24  even all the nations shall say, Why has Yahweh done thus to this land? what means the heat of this great anger?  25  Then men shall say, Because they forsook the covenant of Yahweh, the God of their fathers, which he made with them when he brought them forth out of the land of Egypt,  26  and went and served other gods, and worshiped them, gods that they didn't know, and that he had not given to them:  27  therefore the anger of Yahweh was kindled against this land, to bring on it all the curse that is written in this book;  28  and Yahweh rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as at this day.  29  The secret things belong to Yahweh our God; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

Deu_29:19-29 CAB  And it shall be if one shall hear the words of this curse, and shall flatter himself in his heart, saying, Let good happen to me, *for I will walk in the error [stubbornness?] of my heart, *lest the sinner destroy the guiltless with him [* MT: “to destroy the moist with the dry” (WEB)]:  20  God [MT: Lord] shall by no means be willing to pardon him, but then the wrath of the Lord and His jealousy shall flame out [MT: smoke] against that man; and all the curses of this covenant shall attach themselves to [MT: “Lie on” (WEB)?] him, which are written in this book, and the Lord shall blot out his name from under heaven.  21  And the Lord shall separate that man for evil of all the children of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in the book of this law.  22  And another generation shall say — even your sons who shall rise up after you, and the stranger who shall come from a land afar off, and shall see the plagues of that land and their diseases, which the Lord has sent upon it,  23  brimstone and burning salt, (the whole land shall not be sown, neither shall any green thing spring, nor rise upon it, as Sodom and Gomorrah were overthrown, Admah and Zeboiim, which the Lord overthrew in His wrath and anger) — 24  and all the nations shall say, Why has the Lord done thus to this land? What is this great fierceness of anger?  25  And men shall say, Because they forsook the covenant of the Lord God of their fathers, the things which He appointed to their fathers, when He brought them out of the land of Egypt,  26  and they went and served other gods which they knew not, neither did He assign them to them.  27  And the Lord was exceedingly angry with that land to bring upon it according to all the curses which are written in the book of this law.  28  And the Lord removed them from their land in anger, and wrath, and very great indignation, and cast them out into another land as it is this day.  29  The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, to do all the words of this law.

Deu_29:19-29 Greek  (29:18) καὶ ἔσται ἐὰν ἀκούσῃ τὰ ῥήματα τῆς ἀρᾶς ταύτης καὶ ἐπιφημίσηται ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτοῦ λέγων Ὅσιά μοι γένοιτο ὅτι ἐν τῇ ἀποπλανήσει τῆς καρδίας μου πορεύσομαι, ἵνα μὴ συναπολέσῃ ὁ ἁμαρτωλὸς τὸν ἀναμάρτητον,  20  (29:19) οὐ μὴ θελήσῃ ὁ θεὸς εὐιλατεῦσαι αὐτῷ, ἀλλ᾿ ἢ τότε ἐκκαυθήσεται ὀργὴ κυρίου καὶ ὁ ζῆλος αὐτοῦ ἐν τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ ἐκείνῳ, καὶ κολληθήσονται ἐν αὐτῷ πᾶσαι αἱ ἀραὶ τῆς διαθήκης ταύτης αἱ γεγραμμέναι ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τοῦ νόμου τούτου, καὶ ἐξαλείψει κύριος τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ ἐκ τῆς ὑπὸ τὸν οὐρανόν·  21  (29:20) καὶ διαστελεῖ αὐτὸν κύριος εἰς κακὰ ἐκ πάντων τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ κατὰ πάσας τὰς ἀρὰς τῆς διαθήκης τὰς γεγραμμένας ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τοῦ νόμου τούτου.  22  (29:21) καὶ ἐροῦσιν ἡ γενεὰ ἡ ἑτέρα, οἱ υἱοὶ ὑμῶν, οἳ ἀναστήσονται μεθ᾿ ὑμᾶς, καὶ ὁ ἀλλότριος, ὃς ἂν ἔλθῃ ἐκ γῆς μακρόθεν, καὶ ὄψονται τὰς πληγὰς τῆς γῆς ἐκείνης καὶ τὰς νόσους αὐτῆς, ἃς ἀπέστειλεν κύριος ἐπ᾿ αὐτήν--  23  (29:22) θεῖον καὶ ἅλα κατακεκαυμένον, πᾶσα ἡ γῆ αὐτῆς οὐ σπαρήσεται οὐδὲ ἀνατελεῖ, οὐδὲ μὴ ἀναβῇ ἐπ᾿ αὐτὴν πᾶν χλωρόν, ὥσπερ κατεστράφη Σοδομα καὶ Γομορρα, Αδαμα καὶ Σεβωιμ, ἃς κατέστρεψεν κύριος ἐν θυμῷ καὶ ὀργῇ--,  24  (29:23) καὶ ἐροῦσιν πάντα τὰ ἔθνη Διὰ τί ἐποίησεν κύριος οὕτως τῇ γῇ ταύτῃ; τίς ὁ θυμὸς τῆς ὀργῆς ὁ μέγας οὗτος;  25  (29:24) καὶ ἐροῦσιν Ὅτι κατελίποσαν τὴν διαθήκην κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ τῶν πατέρων αὐτῶν, ἃ διέθετο τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν, ὅτε ἐξήγαγεν αὐτοὺς ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου,  26  (29:25) καὶ πορευθέντες ἐλάτρευσαν θεοῖς ἑτέροις καὶ προσεκύνησαν αὐτοῖς, οἷς οὐκ ἠπίσταντο οὐδὲ διένειμεν αὐτοῖς·  27  (29:26) καὶ ὠργίσθη θυμῷ κύριος ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν ἐκείνην ἐπαγαγεῖν ἐπ᾿ αὐτὴν κατὰ πάσας τὰς κατάρας τὰς γεγραμμένας ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τοῦ νόμου τούτου,  28  (29:27) καὶ ἐξῆρεν αὐτοὺς κύριος ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς αὐτῶν ἐν θυμῷ καὶ ὀργῇ καὶ παροξυσμῷ μεγάλῳ σφόδρα καὶ ἐξέβαλεν αὐτοὺς εἰς γῆν ἑτέραν ὡσεὶ νῦν.  29  (29:28) τὰ κρυπτὰ κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ ἡμῶν, τὰ δὲ φανερὰ ἡμῖν καὶ τοῖς τέκνοις ἡμῶν εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα ποιεῖν πάντα τὰ ῥήματα τοῦ νόμου τούτου.

 

Deuteronomy_29:29 – Targum of PsJohn. 

“The secret things are manifest before the Lord our God, and He will take vengeance for them; but the things that are revealed are delivered unto us and to our children for ever, to perform by them the thing that is right, for the confirmation of all the words of this law.”

 

Important Applications

·        Follow your eyes = harlotry = intruding into secret things

·        Using demons to guess at the “secret things” vs. the witness of two is true

·        Criminal / premature knowledge via demons is always used to reinforce falsehood

·        May or may not have any truth at all (as in the “covenant with Hell” which God annuls, Isa_28:18)

·        Here, as well as in the garden of Eden, Saul’s consultation with a witch, just as satan quoting Scripture in wilderness, etc.

·        In Gen_6, demons knew some principal about incarnation

 

Vital: Name Secret Things You Don’t Really Know!

·        What they meant by that term/phrase/body language/etc. – but they own their own dialect!!

·        Ask permission before believing anything negative about people, who are more important than yourself

·        Rom_14:4 …Who are you to judge someone else's servant…

 

Pulpit Commentary Gives A Number of Useful Thoughts on this Verse

“3. The existence of unsolved difficulties acts as a moral test, and aids the development of faith faith, viz. as a practical principle, believing and trusting in God on the strength of what is revealed, difficulties notwithstanding. (Joh_20:29) This gives the key to our duty, inpresence of these difficulties.”

 

“We are not to forego prayer because it is mysterious to us how God can answer prayer; to forbear fleeing to Christ because we cannot frame a theory of the atonement; to renounce activity because we cannot reconcile free-will and Divine foreordination… What folly, then, to make duty wait on the solving of speculative difficulties, many of which will probably never be solved on earth!”

 

“Do duty, and leave the issues to him who is above. Duty, not calculations of expediency. Those who steer by expediency rather than duty, in the hope to avoid evils, split on a worse rock than the one they shun.”

 

“Taught by God’s good Spirit, Moses discerned that the purpose of Divine revelation was not to gratify intellectual curiosity, but to qualify for practical obedience.”

 

 

 

Flesh Does Not Perceive Any Truth, But Still Wants to Govern God’s Kingdom as an Umpire!

 

>> See: ROW: Confidence Through Knowledge

 

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Al’s V Thoughts

Given on a Trip to Messo (late Nov 2013); 5/25/14

 

Always Assume Others Are Smarter

Repent-of-Your-Perception--C--5.25.14--Assume-Others-Are-Smarter.mp3

Make-Room-to-Save-Each-Other

Remind yourself that you are nothing and have absolutely nothing to say -- always assume other people are smarter / more insightful

 

>> Did any of you speak more than Al?

>> Did you speak less now that she is around?

 

>> I need you to imitate me and assume that even new amateurs might know more than you…

 

>> If any said, “Well, they might be smarter, but they’re not wiser” – then why did you still do confidence [talk/indulge/believe yourself] over them? – (therefore, my mini-title is justified)

 

Speak Less

Become a 'data personality' in the presentation of yourself, and process more inside than w your mouth

 

>> Although you might have to write a lot more down, you do not have to express yourself!

 

>> you should not speak what you think and think what you speak – what they see should not be all they get

 

>> sounds counter-intuitive at first, but we should carefully make this step…

 

>> your thinking/rejecting yourself/weeding out folly and shallowness/critical processing/sifting should be mountains more than you say

>> stretch yourself

 

Al Wants to See in V: more 'unimpressed-nees' w words / the vanity of our own souls / things pertaining to this here and now life...

strive to 'build wells' with brick-like words that you might be ashamed of later

 

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Be Deep So That You Are More Pertinent to Intimacy

>> God likes the intimacy of eyes – why???

>> Animals do not stare into each other’s eyes

(animals are more prone toward noticing smells, etc.)

>> “In the animal world, eye contact is equivalent to asking for a fight.”

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081127155035AAQqGxr

 

these speech things are obstacles to reciprocation w V -- needs deep, meaningful reciprocation w Al > then that could answer the need V feels of having valuable deep things happen in prayer.

 

Hd: a required execution of shallow speech sins

 

Al: then it could produce deep exciting spiritual things... w out sabataching things by engaging with a cheap excitement/enjoyment pleasure with the pleasures of inferior things/ lower perishable things -- even giving more energy to speaking of things than is needful in a day

 

[don't want to perpetuate: 'i'm a barbi girl; life is plastic; it so fantastic...']

 

 

Al’s V Thoughts

Given on a Trip to Messo (late Nov 2013)

 

feeling like she does not have the right to say anything

moved in w Egyp

 

Default: Be Silent in the Face of Hypocrites

> Al heard reports of how bold she was to Egypts, / show me in the bb/ you got to prove it to me/ -- heard these things from Ay & JD --

V: was happy to have a REP among them, that nothing would just be said to her/ people had to prove it -- JD was surprised at V's boldness toward them

Ay: felt: don't want to bite the hand that feeds you --

Al: had to renforce: default is quietness -- be on the DL / not just going arround calling people out -- Ay/JD: surprised at V's forthrightness

 

>> imitating me… and JESUS means being lead to the slaughter SILENT – you do not have to correct people, (unless they are exalting you and integrity is at stake)

 

 

 

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remembering....

 

making judgement calls...

MrS

 

making these judgement calls on the status of where poeple are at....

 

answer = being spiritual? get prophecies?

 

Al: is this one part?: 

 

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Bbs

- avoid the appearance of being a greater authority (knowing stuff), because this also is prideful...

- Don’t Make Guess Statements: don't just say, "i think this" or "that", but submissively leave room, inviting them to help you understand otherwise

- ask questions and leave room to save your soul (your righteousness needs to EXCEED the Pharisees who spoke w questions)

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Humility

 

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Colossians 2 – Stepping / Intruding into Things He Has Not Seen – As an Audacious Umpire!

Col_2:18 CAB  Let no one ·rule against you [καταβραβευέτω (G2603) = κατα (G2596) + βραβεύω (G1018) “umpire, director or arbiter in the public Greek games” / “award[er of] the prize in a public game” (WS on G2603)], desiring [θέλων] to do so in false humility [ταπεινοφροσύνῃ N-DSF] and in worship of the angels [θρησκείᾳ τῶν ἀγγέλων – an arranged service to the messengers], ·intruding into [ἐμβατεύων – Think: ἐν (G1722) + ~βαίνω / ~βάσις (G939) / “bateúō (n.f.), to step” (WS) (i.e. pace the base) = ἐμβατεύω – “the word seemingly implying conceit and arrogance” (WS) – ~walking in] those things which he has not seen [* ἃ μὴ ἑόρακεν ἐμβατεύων], in vain [εἰκῇ] being puffed up [φυσιούμενος] by [ὑπὸ – under] [that of] his carnal [fleshly] mind [εἰκῇ φυσιούμενος ὑπὸ τοῦ νοὸς τῆς σαρκὸς αὐτοῦ],

Col_2:18 Greek  μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβραβευέτω θέλων ἐν ταπεινοφροσύνῃ καὶ θρησκείᾳ τῶν ἀγγέλων, ἃ μὴ ἑόρακεν ἐμβατεύων, εἰκῇ φυσιούμενος ὑπὸ τοῦ νοὸς τῆς σαρκὸς αὐτοῦ,

 

More on καταβραβευέτω…

“rule against you” – “To judge against someone in a game, to defraud or deprive of the prize (Col_2:18 [cf. 1Co_9:24 and Php_3:14, which refer to the prize {brabeíon (G1017)}” (WS)

 

Col_2:23 CAB  These things indeed have a reputation of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and severity on the body, but are not of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

Col_2:23 Greek  ἅτινά ἐστι λόγον μὲν ἔχοντα σοφίας ἐν ἐθελοθρησκίᾳ καὶ ταπεινοφροσύνῃ καὶ ἀφειδίᾳ σώματος, οὐκ ἐν τιμῇ τινι πρὸς πλησμονὴν τῆς σαρκός.

Col_2:23 GNT-V  ατινα εστιν λογον μεν εχοντα σοφιας εν Aεθελοθρησκια TSBεθελοθρησκεια και ταπεινοφροσυνη Aκαι TSBκαι αφειδια σωματος ουκ εν τιμη τινι προς πλησμονην της σαρκος

 

1Timothy 1 – Not Knowing What They Say or Affirm

1Ti_1:6-7 CAB  from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to futile talk,  7  desiring [θέλοντες] to be ·teachers of the law [νομοδιδάσκαλοι], not understanding [νοοῦντες – knowing] either [μήτε] what [ἃ] they say or [μήτε] ·what they affirm [περὶ τίνων διαβεβαιοῦνται].

1Ti_1:6-7 Greek  ὧν τινες ἀστοχήσαντες ἐξετράπησαν εἰς ματαιολογίαν,  7  θέλοντες εἶναι νομοδιδάσκαλοι, μὴ νοοῦντες μήτε ἃ λέγουσι μήτε περὶ τίνων διαβεβαιοῦνται.

 

Ezekiel 13, Jeremiah 14 & 23 – Prophesying From Yourself Without Seeing Anything

 

Ezekiel 13, v. 2-3 – MT, LXX

Eze_13:2-3 WEB  Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say you to [those who prophesy out of their own heart], Hear you the word of Yahweh:  3  Thus says the Lord Yahweh, [Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit], and have seen nothing!

Eze_13:2-3 CAB  Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, and you shall prophesy, and shall say to them, Hear the word of the Lord:  3  Thus says the Lord: Woe [to them that prophesy out of their own heart], and who see nothing at all.

Eze_13:2-3 Greek  Υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, προφήτευσον ἐπὶ τοὺς προφήτας τοῦ Ισραηλ καὶ προφητεύσεις καὶ ἐρεῖς πρὸς αὐτούς Ἀκούσατε λόγον κυρίου  3  Τάδε λέγει κύριος Οὐαὶ τοῖς προφητεύουσιν ἀπὸ καρδίας αὐτῶν καὶ τὸ καθόλου μὴ βλέπουσιν.

 

Ezekiel 13, v. 16-18 – MT, LXX

Eze_13:16-18 WEB  to wit, the prophets of Israel who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, says the Lord Yahweh.  17  You, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy you against them,  18  and say, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Woe to the women who sew pillows on all elbows, and make kerchiefs for the head of persons of every stature to hunt souls! Will you hunt the souls of my people, and save souls alive for yourselves?

Eze_13:16-18 CAB  even the prophets of Israel, who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, says the Lord.  17  And you, son of man, set your face firmly against the daughters of your people, that prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy against them.  18  And you shall say, Thus says the Lord: Woe to the women that sew pillows under every elbow, and make handkerchiefs on the head of every stature to pervert souls! The souls of My people are perverted, and they have saved souls alive.

Eze_13:16-18 Greek  προφῆται τοῦ Ισραηλ οἱ προφητεύοντες ἐπὶ Ιερουσαλημ καὶ οἱ ὁρῶντες αὐτῇ εἰρήνην, καὶ εἰρήνη οὐκ ἔστιν, λέγει κύριος. --  17  καὶ σύ, υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, στήρισον τὸ πρόσωπόν σου ἐπὶ τὰς θυγατέρας τοῦ λαοῦ σου τὰς προφητευούσας ἀπὸ καρδίας αὐτῶν καὶ προφήτευσον ἐπ᾿ αὐτὰς  18  καὶ ἐρεῖς Τάδε λέγει κύριος Οὐαὶ ταῖς συρραπτούσαις προσκεφάλαια ἐπὶ πάντα ἀγκῶνα χειρὸς καὶ ποιούσαις ἐπιβόλαια ἐπὶ πᾶσαν κεφαλὴν πάσης ἡλικίας τοῦ διαστρέφειν ψυχάς· αἱ ψυχαὶ διεστράφησαν τοῦ λαοῦ μου, καὶ ψυχὰς περιεποιοῦντο.

 

Jeremiah 14, v. 7-17 – MT, LXX

Jer_14:7-17 WEB  Though our iniquities testify against us, work you for your name's sake, Yahweh; for our backslidings are many; we have sinned against you.  8  You hope of Israel, its Savior in the time of trouble, why should you be as a foreigner in the land, and as a wayfaring man who turns aside to stay for a night?  9  Why should you be like a scared man, as a mighty man who can't save? yet you, Yahweh, are in the midst of us, and we are called by your name; don't leave us.  10  Thus says Yahweh to this people, Even so have they loved to wander; they have not refrained their feet: therefore Yahweh does not accept them; now he will remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.  11  Yahweh said to me, Don't pray for this people for their good.  12  When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and meal offering, I will not accept them; but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.  13  Then said I, Ah, Lord Yahweh! behold, the prophets tell them, You shall not see the sword, neither shall you have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.  14  Then Yahweh said to me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name; I didn't send them, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke I to them: they prophesy to you a lying vision, and divination, and a thing of nothing, and the deceit of their own heart.  15  Therefore thus says Yahweh concerning the prophets who prophesy in my name, and I didn't send them, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land: By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.  16  The people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them--them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness on them.  17  You shall say this word to them, Let my eyes run down with tears night and day, and let them not cease; for the virgin daughter of my people is broken with a great breach, with a very grievous wound.

Jer_14:7-17 CAB  Our sins have risen up against us. O Lord, do for us for Your name's sake; for our sins are many before You; for we have sinned against You.  8  O Lord, You are the hope of Israel, and deliver us in times of trouble; why have You become as a sojourner upon the land, or as one born in the land, yet turning aside for a resting place?  9  Will You be as a man asleep, or as a strong man that cannot save? Yet You are among us, O Lord, and we are called by Your name; forget us not.  10  Thus says the Lord to this people: They have loved to wander, and they have not spared, therefore God has not prospered them; now will He remember their iniquity.  11  And the Lord said to me, Pray not for this people, for their good:  12  for though they fast, I will not hear their supplication; and though they offer whole burnt offerings and sacrifices, I will take no pleasure in them: for I will consume them with the sword, and with famine, and with pestilence.  13  And I said, Ah, Lord God! Behold, their prophets prophesy, and say, You shall not see a sword, nor shall famine be among you; for I will give truth and peace on the land, and in this place.  14  Then the Lord said to me, The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I sent them not, and I commanded them not, and I spoke not to them: for they prophesy to you false visions, divinations, and worthless things, and devices of their own heart.  15  Therefore thus says the Lord concerning the prophets that prophesy lies in My name, and I sent them not, who say, Sword and famine shall not be upon this land; they shall die by a grievous death, and the prophets shall be consumed by famine.  16  And the people to whom they prophesy, they also shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem, because of the sword and famine; and there shall be none to bury them. Their wives also, and their sons, and their daughters shall die thus; and I will pour out their wickedness upon them.  17  And you shall speak this word to them: Let your eyes shed tears day and night, and let them not cease; for the daughter of My people has been sorely bruised, and her plague is very grievous.

Jer_14:7-17 Greek  εἰ αἱ ἁμαρτίαι ἡμῶν ἀντέστησαν ἡμῖν, κύριε, ποίησον ἡμῖν ἕνεκεν σοῦ, ὅτι πολλαὶ αἱ ἁμαρτίαι ἡμῶν ἐναντίον σοῦ, ὅτι σοὶ ἡμάρτομεν.  8  ὑπομονὴ Ισραηλ, κύριε, καὶ σῴζεις ἐν καιρῷ κακῶν· ἵνα τί ἐγενήθης ὡσεὶ πάροικος ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς καὶ ὡς αὐτόχθων ἐκκλίνων εἰς κατάλυμα;  9  μὴ ἔσῃ ὥσπερ ἄνθρωπος ὑπνῶν ἢ ὡς ἀνὴρ οὐ δυνάμενος σῴζειν; καὶ σὺ ἐν ἡμῖν εἶ, κύριε, καὶ τὸ ὄνομά σου ἐπικέκληται ἐφ᾿ ἡμᾶς· μὴ ἐπιλάθῃ ἡμῶν. --  10  οὕτως λέγει κύριος τῷ λαῷ τούτῳ Ἠγάπησαν κινεῖν πόδας αὐτῶν καὶ οὐκ ἐφείσαντο, καὶ ὁ θεὸς οὐκ εὐδόκησεν ἐν αὐτοῖς· νῦν μνησθήσεται τῶν ἀδικιῶν αὐτῶν.  11  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Μὴ προσεύχου περὶ τοῦ λαοῦ τούτου εἰς ἀγαθά·  12  ὅτι ἐὰν νηστεύσωσιν, οὐκ εἰσακούσομαι τῆς δεήσεως αὐτῶν, καὶ ἐὰν προσενέγκωσιν ὁλοκαυτώματα καὶ θυσίας, οὐκ εὐδοκήσω ἐν αὐτοῖς, ὅτι ἐν μαχαίρᾳ καὶ ἐν λιμῷ καὶ ἐν θανάτῳ ἐγὼ συντελέσω αὐτούς.  13  καὶ εἶπα Ὦ κύριε, ἰδοὺ οἱ προφῆται αὐτῶν προφητεύουσιν καὶ λέγουσιν Οὐκ ὄψεσθε μάχαιραν, οὐδὲ λιμὸς ἔσται ἐν ὑμῖν, ὅτι ἀλήθειαν καὶ εἰρήνην δώσω ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς καὶ ἐν τῷ τόπῳ τούτῳ.  14  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Ψευδῆ οἱ προφῆται προφητεύουσιν ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματί μου, οὐκ ἀπέστειλα αὐτοὺς καὶ οὐκ ἐνετειλάμην αὐτοῖς καὶ οὐκ ἐλάλησα πρὸς αὐτούς· ὅτι ὁράσεις ψευδεῖς καὶ μαντείας καὶ οἰωνίσματα καὶ προαιρέσεις καρδίας αὐτῶν αὐτοὶ προφητεύουσιν ὑμῖν.  15  διὰ τοῦτο τάδε λέγει κύριος περὶ τῶν προφητῶν τῶν προφητευόντων ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματί μου ψευδῆ, καὶ ἐγὼ οὐκ ἀπέστειλα αὐτούς, οἳ λέγουσιν Μάχαιρα καὶ λιμὸς οὐκ ἔσται ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ταύτης Ἐν θανάτῳ νοσερῷ ἀποθανοῦνται, καὶ ἐν λιμῷ συντελεσθήσονται οἱ προφῆται·  16  καὶ ὁ λαός, οἷς αὐτοὶ προφητεύουσιν αὐτοῖς, καὶ ἔσονται ἐρριμμένοι ἐν ταῖς διόδοις Ιερουσαλημ ἀπὸ προσώπου μαχαίρας καὶ τοῦ λιμοῦ, καὶ οὐκ ἔσται ὁ θάπτων αὐτούς, καὶ αἱ γυναῖκες αὐτῶν καὶ οἱ υἱοὶ αὐτῶν καὶ αἱ θυγατέρες αὐτῶν· καὶ ἐκχεῶ ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς τὰ κακὰ αὐτῶν.  17  καὶ ἐρεῖς πρὸς αὐτοὺς τὸν λόγον τοῦτον Καταγάγετε ἐπ᾿ ὀφθαλμοὺς ὑμῶν δάκρυα ἡμέρας καὶ νυκτός, καὶ μὴ διαλιπέτωσαν, ὅτι συντρίμματι συνετρίβη θυγάτηρ λαοῦ μου καὶ πληγῇ ὀδυνηρᾷ σφόδρα.

 

After Jeremiah pleads yet more...

 

Jer_15:1 WEB  Then said Yahweh to me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind would not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.

Jer_15:1 CAB  And the Lord said to me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before My face, My soul could not be toward them: dismiss this people, and let them go forth.

Jer_15:1 Greek  Καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Ἐὰν στῇ Μωυσῆς καὶ Σαμουηλ πρὸ προσώπου μου, οὐκ ἔστιν ἡ ψυχή μου πρὸς αὐτούς· ἐξαπόστειλον τὸν λαὸν τοῦτον, καὶ ἐξελθέτωσαν.

 

Jeremiah 23, v. 11-23 – MT, LXX

Jer_23:11-23 WEB  for both prophet and priest are profane; yes, in my house have I found their wickedness, says Yahweh.  12  Therefore their way shall be to them as slippery places in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein; for I will bring evil on them, even the year of their visitation, says Yahweh.  13  I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied by Baal, and caused my people Israel to err.  14  In the prophets of Jerusalem also I have seen a horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies; and they strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that none does return from his wickedness: they are all of them become to me as Sodom, and its inhabitants as Gomorrah.  15  Therefore thus says Yahweh of Armies concerning the prophets: Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall; for from the prophets of Jerusalem is ungodliness gone forth into all the land.  16  Thus says Yahweh of Armies, Don't listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you: they teach you vanity; they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of Yahweh.  17  They say continually to those who despise me, Yahweh has said, You shall have peace; and to everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart they say, No evil shall come on you.  18  For who has stood in the council of Yahweh, that he should perceive and hear his word? who has marked my word, and heard it?  19  Behold, the storm of Yahweh, even his wrath, is gone forth, yes, a whirling storm: it shall burst on the head of the wicked.  20  The anger of Yahweh shall not return, until he has executed, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days you shall understand it perfectly.  21  I sent not these prophets, yet they ran: I didn't speak to them, yet they prophesied.  22  But if they had stood in my council, then had they caused my people to hear my words, and had turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.  23  Am I a God at hand, says Yahweh, and not a God afar off?

Jer_23:11-23 CAB  For priest and prophet are defiled, and I have seen their iniquities in My house.  12  Therefore let their way be slippery and dark to them, and they shall be tripped up and fall in it; for I will bring evils upon them, in the year of their visitation.  13  And in the prophets of Samaria I have seen lawless deeds; they prophesied by Baal, and led My people Israel astray.  14  Also in the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen horrible things: as they committed adultery, and walked in lies, and strengthened the hands of many, that they should not return each from his evil way. They have all become to Me as Sodom, and its inhabitants as Gomorrah.  15  Therefore thus says the Lord: Behold, I will feed them with pain, and give them bitter water to drink; for from the prophets of Jerusalem has defilement gone forth into all the land.  16  Thus says the Lord Almighty, Hearken not to the words of the prophets, for they frame a vain vision for themselves; they speak from their own heart, and not from the mouth of the Lord.  17  They say to them that reject the word of the Lord, There shall be peace to you; and to all that walk after their own lusts, and to everyone that walks in the error of his heart, they have said, No evil shall come upon you.  18  For who has stood in the counsel of the Lord, and seen His word? Who has hearkened, and heard?  19  Behold, there is an earthquake from the Lord, and anger proceeds to a convulsion, it shall come violently upon the ungodly.  20  And the Lord's wrath shall return no more, until He has accomplished it, and until He has established it, according to the purpose of His heart. At the end of the days they shall understand it.  21  I sent not the prophets, yet they ran: neither did I speak to them, yet they prophesied.  22  But if they had stood in My counsel, and if they had hearkened to My words, then would they have turned My people from their evil practices.  23  I am a God close at hand, says the Lord, and not a God afar off.

Jer_23:11-23 Greek  ὅτι ἱερεὺς καὶ προφήτης ἐμολύνθησαν καὶ ἐν τῷ οἴκῳ μου εἶδον πονηρίας αὐτῶν.  12  διὰ τοῦτο γενέσθω ἡ ὁδὸς αὐτῶν αὐτοῖς εἰς ὀλίσθημα ἐν γνόφῳ, καὶ ὑποσκελισθήσονται καὶ πεσοῦνται ἐν αὐτῇ· διότι ἐπάξω ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς κακὰ ἐν ἐνιαυτῷ ἐπισκέψεως αὐτῶν, φησὶν κύριος.  13  καὶ ἐν τοῖς προφήταις Σαμαρείας εἶδον ἀνομήματα· ἐπροφήτευσαν διὰ τῆς Βααλ καὶ ἐπλάνησαν τὸν λαόν μου Ισραηλ.  14  καὶ ἐν τοῖς προφήταις Ιερουσαλημ ἑώρακα φρικτά, μοιχωμένους καὶ πορευομένους ἐν ψεύδεσι καὶ ἀντιλαμβανομένους χειρῶν πονηρῶν τοῦ μὴ ἀποστραφῆναι ἕκαστον ἀπὸ τῆς ὁδοῦ αὐτοῦ τῆς πονηρᾶς· ἐγενήθησάν μοι πάντες ὡς Σοδομα καὶ οἱ κατοικοῦντες αὐτὴν ὥσπερ Γομορρα.  15  διὰ τοῦτο τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ψωμιῶ αὐτοὺς ὀδύνην καὶ ποτιῶ αὐτοὺς ὕδωρ πικρόν, ὅτι ἀπὸ τῶν προφητῶν Ιερουσαλημ ἐξῆλθεν μολυσμὸς πάσῃ τῇ γῇ.  16  οὕτως λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ Μὴ ἀκούετε τοὺς λόγους τῶν προφητῶν, ὅτι ματαιοῦσιν ἑαυτοῖς ὅρασιν, ἀπὸ καρδίας αὐτῶν λαλοῦσιν καὶ οὐκ ἀπὸ στόματος κυρίου.  17  λέγουσιν τοῖς ἀπωθουμένοις τὸν λόγον κυρίου Εἰρήνη ἔσται ὑμῖν· καὶ πᾶσιν τοῖς πορευομένοις τοῖς θελήμασιν αὐτῶν, παντὶ τῷ πορευομένῳ πλάνῃ καρδίας αὐτοῦ εἶπαν Οὐχ ἥξει ἐπὶ σὲ κακά.  18  ὅτι τίς ἔστη ἐν ὑποστήματι κυρίου καὶ εἶδεν τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ; τίς ἐνωτίσατο καὶ ἤκουσεν;  19  ἰδοὺ σεισμὸς παρὰ κυρίου καὶ ὀργὴ ἐκπορεύεται εἰς συσσεισμόν, συστρεφομένη ἐπὶ τοὺς ἀσεβεῖς ἥξει.  20  καὶ οὐκέτι ἀποστρέψει ὁ θυμὸς κυρίου, ἕως ἂν ποιήσῃ αὐτὸ καὶ ἕως ἂν ἀναστήσῃ αὐτὸ ἀπὸ ἐγχειρήματος καρδίας αὐτοῦ· ἐπ᾿ ἐσχάτου τῶν ἡμερῶν νοήσουσιν αὐτά.  21  οὐκ ἀπέστελλον τοὺς προφήτας, καὶ αὐτοὶ ἔτρεχον· οὐκ ἐλάλησα πρὸς αὐτούς, καὶ αὐτοὶ ἐπροφήτευον.  22  καὶ εἰ ἔστησαν ἐν τῇ ὑποστάσει μου καὶ εἰσήκουσαν τῶν λόγων μου, καὶ τὸν λαόν μου ἂν ἀπέστρεφον αὐτοὺς ἀπὸ τῶν πονηρῶν ἐπιτηδευμάτων αὐτῶν.  23  θεὸς ἐγγίζων ἐγώ εἰμι, λέγει κύριος, καὶ οὐχὶ θεὸς πόρρωθεν.

 

Jeremiah 23, v. 25-27 – MT, LXX

Jer_23:25-27 WEB  I have heard what the prophets have said, who prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.  26  How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, even the prophets of the deceit of their own heart?  27  who think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers forgot my name for Baal.

Jer_23:25-27 CAB  I have heard what the prophets say, what they prophesy in My name, saying falsely, I have seen a night vision.  26  How long shall these things be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies, when they prophesy the purposes of their own heart?  27  Who devise that men may forget My law by their dreams, which they have told everyone to his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My name in the worship of Baal.

Jer_23:25-27 Greek  ἤκουσα ἃ λαλοῦσιν οἱ προφῆται, ἃ προφητεύουσιν ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματί μου ψευδῆ λέγοντες Ἠνυπνιασάμην ἐνύπνιον.  26  ἕως πότε ἔσται ἐν καρδίᾳ τῶν προφητῶν τῶν προφητευόντων ψευδῆ καὶ ἐν τῷ προφητεύειν αὐτοὺς τὰ θελήματα καρδίας αὐτῶν;  27  τῶν λογιζομένων τοῦ ἐπιλαθέσθαι τοῦ νόμου μου ἐν τοῖς ἐνυπνίοις αὐτῶν, ἃ διηγοῦντο ἕκαστος τῷ πλησίον αὐτοῦ, καθάπερ ἐπελάθοντο οἱ πατέρες αὐτῶν τοῦ ὀνόματός μου ἐν τῇ Βααλ.

 

(See: Rest of the chapter: don't say 'God told me...': Jer_23:28-40)

 

Job 38 – MT: “Words Without Knowledge” vs. LXX: ‘Speaking Words, And Thinking I Don’t Notice’ -- Kind of Different

Job_38:2 WEB  "Who is this who darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

Job_38:2 CAB  Who is this that hides counsel from Me, and confines words in his heart, and thinks to conceal them from Me?

 

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Replies to Miranda

>> read Miranda’s letter

>> your perception is your idol, just like MrS.

>> don’t become an example of those who fell by unpersuasion

>> you are called to lead yourself into sanity/faith by hating your evil eye.

>> yes, as far as you can tell where perfect.  You can think of one thing where it’s even possible for us to be capable of sin.

“Ms. Miranda, if you can wait with a warm, insistent, and persistent hope then you will not at all be given shame in return. Our God has promised (ex Rom_10:11).”

(“RE: weekend”, Fri 10/11/2013 11:34 PM)

 

- Ecc: follow heart = judgment

- other: Walk after the sight of your own eyes

 

Jeremiah 3 – No More Selfish, Deluded Hearts Allowed For The Nations When They Come to Jerusalem

Jer_3:17 WEB  At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of Yahweh; and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of Yahweh, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the stubbornness [שׁררות H8307 twisted stubbornness] of their evil heart.

Jer_3:17 CAB  In those days and at that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered to it: and they shall not walk anymore after the imaginations [ἐνθυμημάτων – inward hot breathing/ “lusts”] of their evil heart.

Jer_3:17 Greek  ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ἐκείναις καὶ ἐν τῷ καιρῷ ἐκείνῳ καλέσουσιν τὴν Ιερουσαλημ Θρόνος κυρίου, καὶ συναχθήσονται εἰς αὐτὴν πάντα τὰ ἔθνη καὶ οὐ πορεύσονται ἔτι ὀπίσω τῶν ἐνθυμημάτων τῆς καρδίας αὐτῶν τῆς πονηρᾶς.

 

Note: this can be the only alternative to relieving God besides killing you (as seen in Num_25:8)

 

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Because You Say 'We See' Sin Remains

2/8/14

 

 

- always remember your outstanding pagan foolishness (yell allowed: “Blind, blind, blind!”)

- >> Import 'Axiums'

 

 

All They Are is Feelings

People frequently confuse the reality of feeling something with the reliability of what it is saying!

Although what you are feeling is real, it is usually not reliable.

Although what you are feeling is a real feeling, it is usually not reality that you are feeling.

A real feeling is not the same as feeling reality. Truly feeling something does not mean feeling truth.

1/8/14

Really feeling something does not mean that what you are really feeling is true.

People assume that any ghost that slips into their soul is good for them and telling them the truth!

 

 

He Who Trusts in his Own Heart is a Fool

 

>> Jesus used A Book to led his life!

 

 

you are NOT the exception to the rule. you are not "different". (think: rules of AA against thinking you are special/addictive/obsessive personally) - if bible absolutely says you can believe, YOU CAN -- no excuses not to. only resist feelings of unbelief, and furvently repent of doing unbelif (esp. W your mouth).Faith = no trusting in your own senses!

 

Heb_4:1-13 – God searches everything even if we are in probation seeking to enter into His rest

We should always be pessimistic toward our own claims, and hold ourselves in contempt until God says we have won.

Think: what Naomi said (in Ruth)

 

 

 

Stop setting your heart on things!!

Other dates (incl. ~11/24/13-6/2/14 -- Repent of Your Perception)

This was originally preceded by things like Repent of Your Perception

This was originally in the community Bible study, much of which was recompiled into Spiritual Interface

 

-- a servant does not do this, and such impropriety breaks the boundaries of safe obedience!

 

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Gal: Paul went up assuming that others should know more than him... lest he had run in vain... -- the opposite of foolish flesh people

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Don't start thinking independently, nor should you start think you are heearing from god now... all of this is the inevitable degredation of apostacising fow and foolish flesh - Saul started off humble, but ended strong and evil. EVERYONE does this same satan worship, and even though we clearly warned her who fell, she increased in fool-heartiness anyway.

 

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12/13/13

You have not even apprehended knowledge aright

>> Sir we barely guess aright...

Aprehend vs. Comprehnd

 

Approaching Firsthand knowledge is like my relative who can take an engine apart and put it back together.

Perfect Firsthand knowledge is when you are colaboring in building the engine and pioneering truth on the earth.

 

)) google...

But we are like religious leaders who put a dragon themb on its nose and call it a horn!

 

 

Perfect Agreement & Submission

part of perfect agreement is that we all die to having pre-set beliefs so that, even when you do not understand, those who are responsible can lead

 

Skepticism

Ay: wanted to talk about things pertaining to Submission challenges

>> she could see how the skepticism thing could affect that

 

One of the most audacious and rude sins of all evil is to trust your self

The biggest fool in the world is the one who can persuade themselves

 

Why Liberal Pagans Never Seem to Need Faith

Extremely Critical And Foundational Yet Simple Principal

 

Paganism (Liberalism) does not need faith at all because it is not based on denying your own senses to obtain a truth bigger than your own evil soul’s immediate perception.

 

, in faithful preference to the one who is superior to you in authority and quality.

testifying against your own curruption,

Sainly and cleeanly loveing the training over the sloppiness of your default posture.

Reverencing The training of logos is the foundational prerequisit to engaging monotheism.

 

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answer is not just saying, "i do not know"/"i am not sure" (Mike unknowingly discipled us to that), but it is at least giving an estimate saying "my impression/understanding is..." -- we do not need to ever compete to prove anything to ourselves. -- do not be gulible enough to be persuaded by yourself, nor have bad zeal over the certainty you think you have in corruptible things.

"I'm not sure" might sometimes be avoiding the issue (at least give a useful answer beyond what I already know). Do not feel comforted in the certainty of perceptions that are only here for this life, because this bad zeal chases after the same corruptable and artificial comfort that is in accomplishment lust.

 

 

No On-Demand Prophecy

When you are Seeking Truth from a Monotheist, there is no "On Demand"

Truth/Prophecy is Not "On Demand"

Other dates (incl. ~11/24/13-6/2/14 -- Repent of Your Perception); (other dates, as seen below); 11/8/17

This was originally preceded by things like Repent of Your Perception

This was originally in the community Bible study, much of which was recompiled into Spiritual Interface

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>> disciples motioned w hand to ask Jesus

>> they were ashamed to say what they were talking about along the road

>> they were afraid to ask him (i.e. when Jesus was talking about his coming crucifixion)

 

 

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11/8/17

 

Moses wanted someone to go with them to ‘be eyes for them’ going along the way in the wilderness

 

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9/4/17

 

Paul was not using a crystal ball to get paid to fortune tell.

It was according to favor.

 

Col_2:5 CAB  ·For though indeed [εἰ γὰρ καὶ – because if also] I am absent [ἄπειμι] in the flesh, yet [ἀλλὰ] ·I am [being] [εἰμι] ·[together] with [σὺν] you in [the (τῷ)] spirit, rejoicing [χαίρων] [and (καὶ)] to see [βλέπων – seeing] [that of (τὴν)] your orderliness [τάξιν – arrangement] and the steadfastness [στερέωμα – established/“confirmed”/“standing”] of [that of (τῆς)] your faith in[to] [εἰς] Christ [Χριστὸν – anointed one].

Col_2:5  εἰ γὰρ καὶ τῇ σαρκὶ ἄπειμι, ἀλλὰ τῷ πνεύματι σὺν ὑμῖν εἰμι, χαίρων καὶ βλέπων ὑμῶν τὴν τάξιν καὶ τὸ στερέωμα τῆς εἰς Χριστὸν πίστεως ὑμῶν.

>> Sync: SPI > DHG (x2) | Lov | ROW > Logos > Arrangement

 

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real prophecy is not on demand, because real prophets still have to inquire of the Lord

David had to inquire of other prophets to know what God was saying

even Moses had to wait on hearing from God on what to do about someone who violated the Sabbath, and what to do when certain women thought to inherit property

 

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no, it should not be all simple and easily knowable - because humans are quick and unfaithful with holy things. You need to be worthy, and you need to treat other people's sentaments as sacred (>> ROW!!)

 

>> repay no one evil for evil, but forgive as you were forgiven

 

>> take time to selflessly love people until they are saved... do you really want to see people slip off into hell?? ("Al: [right for us to yeild to each other if there is reasonableness going on...] (2) "...we need to treat each other better than Home Depot associates")

>> Loving community = always bending over backward and dying to pride to find out how other loved ones are right - only exception is when you really are so strong that you know the beginning and end of anothr person's mistake, and you can correct them (do not judge the law or you will be judged...)

>> don't overthough someone elses's knowledge w your pessimism/athism

if extravert is being quick and shallow, this is not justice/truth, this is lovelessness

You are required to love people far beyond your own interests, and this is truth

 

>> love is well moved

 

Whenever you are hurt, learn to get lower, and always be more ashamed of yourself (esp. in their presence) than you are angery at those who hurt you

Don't become unabashed in the face of others. Always hold yourself down benieth the face of others. Exception: those who need to be pushed into hell.

'no judge lestt it be to you...' -- you better be right, or else you better get low

If you truly have no advantage over them, you are sick and in danger if you go above them

 

Your temporary sucess (not struggling like they are) is bitterly deceptive

 

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Boasting When you are Circumstantially 'Better Off' Than Others, and Attributing it to your own good

An Injustice that God is offended at

Justice: God afflicts, you heal

>> i will hear the poor, because I am merciful

>> Job: i also could speak as you do... [kicking a man when he is down]

 

the same creator made both of you, therefore it is evil to act like you did not receive anything when you are floating and they are floundering...

 

>> Huge point: It is God's business to subject people to wounds/sickness/poverty/trials, but it is your job to do justice and relive them!

 

 

(see: Test Your Self....)

 

(even Moses went to the ground in the face of his accusers/ not good to bow before wicked?)

 

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ETERNAL: look at the end result – 'Did you do what I told you to do'

if you do not end up seeking to meet w mentore, then big problem: consider the actual thing that ends up happening

 

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love is not zealous... love is well-persuaded (i.e. you can very effectivelly find a good and easy path to persuation... i.e. w truth) - each of you submit to the other - seek to be least

- righteous despising is reserved for the RIGHTEOUS, mindful, understanding, for those demanding superior in virtue

- no academic pride/competition - this is not worthy to be compared w righteous despising... This is utterly embarising sin!

 

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Pro MT: don't lean on own understanding > TSK

 

Basic point: Remember to Judge Your Self

>> is this in judging the church?

 

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2co – judge yourself if in the faith

1Co_11: – if you judge self, you would not be judged

1Co_11: – let a man examine himself

 

- ideally, you should judge yourself in God's assembly, so that others would not have to make judgement fall down on you.

- Then "you would not be judged"

 

by words you will have judgement fall down on you, and by them be justified

 

Judge Your level of perception

 

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>> 1co: if any think he knows anything

Heb_5:11-14 – Hebrews laments your lack of perception

 

if you do not judge your perception, you will earn judgement, because you will end up thinking that what you see is reality

 

Sobering moments:

- do you have what others need?

- realise the actual need, have the full answer yourself, and then you can tranfer benefit to them

- i.e. as opposed to just being passively helped, because this is how you end up thinking that you know something and end up "helping" like job's friends

- if you do not know/percieve anything, then (ultimatly) it is wicked vanity to lust to persuade others over to your perception!

- Find an answer, or else remain a reciever, and fear to promote what might be making you sick!

 

 

>> Recent Example: logo development

- do not be strongly persuaded of what you feel/think is best

- everything is a test

- lend me some credibility

 

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Roots Against Obeying Commands

Lusting after/being impressed/obsessed w Your own multiplied ideas

Wanting people to believe/understand your experience (note: you are not experiencing reality, so you should never want to persuade others over to know your insanity) - it is your job to submit and prefer others perception, not to be impressed with your insanity's experience!

Think: mrS' insanity -- you do NOT know your own heart. Stop trying to express it/prove it

> get short notes from Miranda contact

 

You do not percieve/ understand where you are spiritually, nor do you realise the significance of what you are experiencing.

 

Don't Try God as they Tried Moses

If you foolishly exalt yourself over your subjected "peers" you are going to rebell and dishonor me trecherously when it comes time for commands.

Note: each of you are necisarily going to be tested by demons. I am telling you ahead of time. When it hapens, commit now to say, "oh yes! He said this insanity would hit me, and nows when i'm supposed to reject my satanic confidence that i never thought would ever come upon me"

- although you seem to sit there innocently now, you will be tempted to be an all-out witch, so be prepared, and 'choose this day whm you will serve'!

 

Now is the time to hate your own perceptions, thoughts and words vehenimatly.

 

You do not get to say where you are spiritually, nor do you get to think your own foolish eyes determine where the boudaries are for your leaders. Be ambitious to know these things, but do not be so absurd and foolish to assert them (until you have prophecy). -- do not delight in belting out your own filth from your mouth, but be ashamed of your own ignorance.

)See: Sirach

 

 

Do not make authorities/leaders beg you to submit or be corrected!

You are going to loose your favor real quick if you forget how great people are, and how minial you are!

 

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! saying:

Longing for perfection means begging for correction

(i want it all the time, all day, everyday)

- Pro: rod of cor. is way of life

- if you are not desparately longing for this/constantly looking for this (even through people), somthing is uggly wrong

>compare/insert/combine?:

> Llo: love correction/rebuke

> SinL: sin conrontation...blessing

 

Al

- think of ways to be happy either way. Don't make exclusive setups.

but: Telling me how important it is to you (as you said) is good communication

- want to avoid creating emergancies.

 

 

bbs: Your wish...

>combine all of this w LLO? - loving rebuke?

10/22/13

example: the logo - make what you feel is good ver adjustable/flexable. make you feeling/preferences/deep sentimate wide open to currection.

- this is the same as being free from your past lusts ... no longer bothered/desierous of past relationships

- Paul: I have become all things to all men... You CAN completely Move your "likes" - think: food - and you can coose to like some food *from your heart* that you never liked before... fasting helps do this by crushing vain, lustful preferences.

(on the other hand: it does not always necisarily remove your "favorite food", esp. If it is healthy for you.)

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Always staying open to Correction, and begging for it

 

One of the lessons to learn from those who fell - they let the discipler be responcible for chasing them down -- this makes your arms crossed and you are far away from correction - how is this ever supposed to work like Jesus correcting the disciples

- it is high time to begg for correction and rebuke - then you get the reward.. The peacible fruit of righteousness

- they did not feel a need to have some one continually correct them, and it would have hurt their feeling if you did.... Some people put a 'hedge of protection' from correction lest they be rescued -- 'my feeling ar going to hurt so bad if i am told that i am wrong' - but this is rebellious unsavedness - not only: do not block correction, BEGG FOR IT!!!

- YOU chase after it, and be quick to look for where you are wrong -- do not sit there foolishly wanting to protect your feelings that 'God is leeding you' -- pop bubbles quick... Move quick... And begg quick for corrction... Recieve incrimination... Remember when David was corrected, he sat looking for what was wrong until he found it (in the Bible).

David + Nathan CORRECTION - David considered sin confrontation a huge blessing

David would even let his enemies correct him if possible (throwing dust/ Joab insisted that he stop morning/MT: it is oil on my head, when it is the righteous)

LXX: Those who blame themselves will be loved!!

Make your self abased with seeking correction, and you will be held in greater honor before heaven.

Conflict: your confidence vs your correction - Baptist Pastor: how are you ever going to have confidence to preach if you don't know that you are eternally secure?

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Submission is needed most when you do not agree.

Whenever there is a conflict, by default, assume you are the one that is wrong... about something at least, and you have no right to have bad zeal and stand up for anything, especially when you think you are right!

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Paul and Barnabas may go separate ways

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Lookup:

so insolent as to repeat his sin

be zealous to 'clear yourselves' (Corinthians _:?)

 

>> as soon as you think you know anything at all [secular/religious/], your mind goes out the door

>> clarification: I know (at times) i seem to be 'an expert' on many things, but i am concerned over my own presentation, and i am constantly seeking to do well w my words to undercut my own strength so as to allow another expert illuminate me where i am weak... (remember i said: it does not matter how young someone is, whoever has truth should be listened too -- probelem: when you think you know something, you do not know ANY TRUTH)

>> when you are off, STOP TALKING/leading/being impressed with your ideas thoughts appinions/ do not matter

>> when Jesus rebukes Peter, YOU do not have a right to despise him, or 'dethrone' him from the honorable rock that Jesus called him

>> when you are facing something, it is not sane to go about trying to correct someone else...

>> 3 things have come up...

>> Probation Thoughts: Al: when V has had a breach w Ay, what is going on that makes these 3 incedents happen

>> contradicts that innocent eagerness that Al praised when Al first visited Egypt

>> 'Things really should be more clear, but people demand proof...'

 

>> Hd: has V been heading council on how to deal w Ay? on one hand, yes, but on the other, Al: maybe there are hightened spiritual things going on when V is not really heading what Al said... maybe that is comming back to cases where V.

 

>> Al: although Al has talked a lot about V, but Al is also given a hard time about simple things sometimes...

>> at times when Ay has vhented to Al about Ay's pain over V, but Al percieves (and Ay partly said te same) that this is how Ay has treated Al many times

 

-- Additional notes (added after bathroom break)...

 

One summary concerning V:

(a) Sometimes her sharp interactions with Ay involve V reacting in defensiveness to Ay's perplexing bitter temperament that seems to seep out and taint interactions; (b) and then sometimes their sharp interactions with each other involve V really, truly trying to be more peaceable in her quick compliance, or in her reasonable inquisitiveness; (c) and then again sometimes their sharp interactions involve V expressing a more energized hostility that is not reasonable

 

One summary concerning Ay:

(a) Sometimes her sharp interactions with V involve something more deep going on (maybe some sort of bitter groan needing to be healed) with Ay that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the matters at hand (these type of sharp interactions happen between her and I as well); (b) and then sometimes Ay's sharp interactions with V involve her defensing-up like a porcupine as soon as she might, maybe detect something that even looks like trust issues & suspicious interrogating by V (Ay seems to be very hurt by this [trust issues... even if it is not fully of something suspicious interrogating] and any movement from V, whether body posture or voice tone or facial expression or anything, seems to be noticed and magnified in Ay's eyes); (c) and then sometimes Ay really is indignant at the overt hostility of V towards her

 

 

Mr. Man's Responses And Thoughts

 

Followup Thoughts

Al: - do you mind if i bring up the 3 incidents w V? - arn't these recent issues w V related to the issues w JD? -- we need to eliminate dispising/nerve/questioning -- if you do not believe, that does not mean you have to dispise/criticise -- bring all your dangerous disagreements into accountability (it IS like confessing your sins...)

 

>> Note:

>> I remember some issues like this coming up when V was with jd

>> how does this relate to Asia questioning V's salvation at the true church conference?

 

>> If you disbelieve any claim, it is your job to 'prove it' - and Jesus/Rabbies did this by asking questions

>> You cannot exploit your own ignorance to overrule another person's knowledge

 

>> MrS stopped trusting/started questioning/ now i have to prove something to him

V/H -- when you see this, beware!!

>> whatever you do, endure and believe in perfection! This is where eeryone else fails... this is the very crux of why no one believes in perfection...

>> I am charging you to not ever believe insanity: we can win perfectly

logos (which should be in authorities juristiction)/apren/modesty

we are being attacked on many levels

 

>> remember the gospel i have preched with urgency from the beginning:

YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING -- stop the madness, stop the rebellion and foolishness and mindlessness and pollution

 

 

Gal_6:1-3 CAB  Brothers, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a person in a spirit of gentleness, looking out for yourself lest you also be tempted.  2  Bear one another's burdens, and thus fulfill the law of Christ.  3  For if anyone thinks that he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.

Gal_6:1-3 Greek  ᾿Αδελφοί, ἐὰν καὶ προλημφθῇ ἄνθρωπος ἔν τινι παραπτώματι, ὑμεῖς οἱ πνευματικοὶ καταρτίζετε τὸν τοιοῦτον ἐν πνεύματι πρᾳότητος, σκοπῶν σεαυτόν, μὴ καὶ σὺ πειρασθῇς.  2  ᾿Αλλήλων τὰ βάρη βαστάζετε, καὶ οὕτως ἀναπληρώσατε τὸν νόμον τοῦ Χριστοῦ.  3  εἰ γὰρ δοκεῖ τις εἶναί τι μηδὲν ὤν, ἑαυτόν φρεναπατᾷ.

 

Warning: if you are blind but disagree, you will still be heald accountable as though you saw. Because you had enough pride to disagree, and because blindness of this kind is the foolishness of rejecting sight.

 

If you sinsearly did not think Jesus was the Messiah ("due to your ridged jewish upbrining") , and you utterly tripped at the scandal, you are still going to perish without excuss. -

 

"I will be holified by those who come near me"

 

 

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Test Your Self....

 

 

Connection

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

8/17/05 (+Word: Created); 9/10/05; 11/15/05 (+Word: Printed); 11/25/07 (Word: Modified); 8/28/11; 2/10/17 (recompiled)

 

Part 1 – Intro

 

What does it mean to be connected?

(There are many things that it could mean: "Not connected with God unless you are connected with people; your love for God doesn’t mean anything until you love your neighbor" or "Salvation; Are you in relationship with the creator?" etc.) But swing with me on this one. We’re not talking about these things particularly. ð We’ll explain what we are talking about throughout this study.

Let’s start with the obvious: It is not thinking you are connected (i.e. I really felt the Lord)

Connection is beyond this, and is a thing determined and measured by God (not you, nor your feelings).

 

Most Important Thing

When it comes to talking about connection, it is probably one of the most important things that I have ever attempted to talk about.

Whether you realize it or not, this makes the difference of your whole Christian life.

Everything rises or falls in your pursuit of Jesus depending on what you attain in this area of connection.

 

1. Not Without Humility

Jam_4:4-10 MKJV 4 … Do you not know that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever desires to be a friend of the world is the enemy of God… Do you think that the Scripture says in vain, The spirit that dwells in us yearns to envy? 6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says, God resists the proud, but He gives grace to the humble. 7 Therefore submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, sinners; and purify your hearts, double-minded ones. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to heaviness. 10 Be humbled before the Lord, and He will lift you up.

 

1Pe_5:5-7 WEB Likewise, you younger ones, be subject to the elder. Yes, all of you gird yourselves with humility, to subject yourselves to one another; for "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble." 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time; 7 casting all your worries on him, because he cares for you.

 

2. Not Without Holiness

Psa_68:5-6 WEB A father of the fatherless, and a defender of the widows, Is God in his holy habitation. 6 God sets the lonely in families. He brings out the prisoners with singing, But the rebellious dwell in a sun-scorched land.

 

2Co_6:14-18 MKJV Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what fellowship does righteousness have with lawlessness458? [or unrighteousness] And what partnership does light have with darkness? 15 And what agreement does Christ have with Belial955? Or what part does a believer have with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does a temple of God have with idols? For you are the temple of the living God, as God has said, "I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." 17 Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you 18 and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.

 

(Also see: Idols vs. God 1Cor_10:20-21; Light/Dark 1Jn_1:5-7; Elijah vs. Baal 1King_18:21;

Touch Nothing Unclean Isa_52:11 / Ezk_20:34, 41)

 

Heb_12:14-15 KJV Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: 15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

 

(Personal Examples: Dressel, Pena, Vega)

 

3. Only With and by Favor

 

A. Entreat Favor

1Ki_13:6 NKJV Then the king answered and said to the man of God, "Please entreat the favor of the Lord your God, and pray for me, that my hand may be restored to me."

Mal_1:9 NKJV "‘But now entreat God’s favor, That He may be gracious to us. While this is being done by your hands, Will He accept you favorably?’ Says the Lord of hosts, (vs. 7-8 deal with ‘Defiled Sacrifices’)"

 

B. Bona-Fide Blessings of Favor

Deu_29:19-21 WEB and it happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart, [Refusing to obey the Bible]… The Lord will not pardon him, but then the anger of The Lord and his jealousy will smoke against that man, and all the curse that is written in this book shall lie on him, and The Lord will blot out his name from under the sky. The Lord will set him apart to evil…

 

Isa_65:16 WEB …he who blesses himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth

 

[Don’t settle for less; reach for God’s true connection and blessing!]

 

4. No False Connections in God’s Kingdom

Jesus Doesn’t Jive With Quick Shallow Commitments

[Talking about shallowness and then relating it to connection]

 

Mat_8:19-23 WEB A scribe came, and said to him, "Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go." 20 Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head." 21 Another of his disciples said to him, "Lord, allow me first to go and bury my father." 22 But Jesus said to him, "Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead." 23 When he got into a boat, his disciples followed him.

 

Pro_25:14 MKJV A man boasting himself in a false gift is like clouds and wind, but no rain.

 

Be slow; Count the Cost (Lk 14:25-33)

 

It not worth saying “yes” and not meaning it…

Better not to swear than to swear and not perform it.                                                                                                                                                                   Ecc_5:5

The son that said "I will do it" but didn’t                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Mat_21:28 - 32

Let your “yes” be yes, “no” no, or you’re obeying the evil one                                                                                                                                                                   Mat_5:33-37

…nor is it worth saying, "I’m connected" if you’re not truly connected, because you forfeit access to the real thing when you pretend its counterfeit.

 

Luk_14:26-27 WEB "If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple. 27 Whoever doesn't bear his own cross, and come after me, can't be my disciple.

READ Verses 28-32

 

Luk_14:33-35 MKJV So then, everyone of you who does not forsake all his possessions, he cannot be My disciple. 34 Salt is good, but if the salt has become tasteless, with what shall it be seasoned? 35 It is not fit for the land, nor for manure, but men throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. -Read: Mat_10:31-39-

 

[Eat flesh drink blood, Jn 6: 35-68]

 

Extra thoughts:

Strange Fire (Lev_10:1-3)/ "Hyper-Faith movement" (It never lasts)

One pastor I used to know said, “I’ve seen so many new christians shoot up like rockets, only to fizzle out and fall back to the ground”

- Some do so even with a hint of God’s grace, but never broken through

 

5. Definitions

G458 ἀνομία anomia an-om-ee'-ah

From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.

G955 Βελίαλ Belial bel-ee'-al

Of Hebrew origin [H1100]; worthlessness; Belial, as an epithet of Satan: - Belial.

 

Follow me as I follow Christ… (see: 1 Cor 11)

 

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Part 2 – Spiritual Insights into Connection

Disclaimer

We are not talking about intellectually deducible things that can be written down in a text book. We are talking about the mysteries of God. Don’t complain if they are not readily understandable. They are by nature, not understandable, though I hope you are able to understand them. Jesus made no apologies about the mysteries that He said, so that most people do not understand them to this day. This mysterious Truth is what I intend to write below:

 

Spiritual Darkness

Mat_6:20-24 MKJV But lay up treasures in Heaven for yourselves, where neither moth nor rust corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

24 No one can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

 

Spiritual Things About Favor

 

Connection is not just salvation, although all who are connected are saved.

"And there is no one who calls on Your name, who stirs up himself to take hold of You. For You have hidden Your face from us… (Isa_64:7 MKJV)."

 

Connection is not anointing, because many who have some kind of anointing from God are not saved.

Balaam Prophesies Num 22-24; Balaam is killed Num_31:8, 16/Jos_13:22

Irrevocable gifts Rom_11:29;

Internal/external anointing: God never stopped offering external anointings. Balaam, for all practical purposes, was never under any Covenantial-anointing (internal) as God’s people have been, in the Old or New Testaments. He had an external anointing (however effective it was) that did not denote any favor or salvation imputed on his behalf.

 

Connection is God’s favor upon a person’s life.

Connection is not God calling you and drawing you (this can happen before you stop sinning) although it is out of Grace that He draws.

 

Favor reaches where discipline has no ability to reach

Favor is greater than discipline, though True favor always begets discipline (even if not seen immediately)

Favor is greater than discipline just as the worker is greater than his work.

If discipline is not the work of favor in your life (including "drawing favor"), then it is as "filthy rags," (Is 64:6) and comes from darkness.

If you have the favor of God’s light in your eyes then you will resonate and rejoice at what I am saying.

Favor without Truth, dies, and truth without favor becomes darkness within you. Truth will darken everyone who holds it without favor.

 

Rom_1:18c KJV …men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness

Col_1:5-6 WEB because of the hope which is laid up for you in the heavens, whereof you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which has come to you; even as it is in all the world and is bearing fruit and growing, as it does in you also, since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;

You are fallen from Grace (favor) if you do not obey (believe) the Truth:

Gal_3:1 WEB Foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you not to obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was openly set forth among you as crucified?

Gal_5:4-7 WEB You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace. 5 For we, through the Spirit, by faith wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision amounts to anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith working through love. 7 You were running well! Who interfered with you that you should not obey the truth?

 

Favor takes you above the Law just as David was taken, and was not stoned when he deserved to die. (2Sa_12:1-13) -He also took back his wife after remarriage (2Sa_3:14-16) superseding the law.-

 

There is a favor that happens in an instant of time, which we sometimes experience, and there is a favor that takes hold of men’s lives. The latter is connection, and the former is what we aspire and pray to maintain if we have tasted it. A base of having connection upon a person’s life, inspires them to maintain a life experiencing and drawing that favor out.

 

ð No Man is greater than his prayer life

ð Be strong in the grace (2Ti_2:1; Luk_2:40)

 

Hype vs. Darkness both detract away from connection

Acknowledge the verses in favor of excitement, but also determine to build nothing upon hype

Darkness brings on depression

Repeat After Me: It is not optional to have darkness

Darkness is often composed of attempts toward Truth done in the flesh

There is a such thing as Graceless-Miracle-Workers

Not that the miracles themselves are "graceless" but that the people who do them are graceless.

 

Counterfeit Connections

-There are religious (unreasonable and anti-thinking) spirits that counterfeit spiritual mindsets claiming to have a connection with God. Acknowledge that God is reasonable (in the Truest sense, not in a human sense), and don’t be enticed by feely experiential speakers who can’t reasonably account for their actions.

-Hype and whimsical "connections" are not respected before God

 

Authority

Other dates (See: Healing); 2/6/17 (recompiled); 2/21/17 (added/recompiled: Faith Bible Study)

 

Destroying  woe as me doctrines

 

 

Every Where You Tread: Authority

10/20/17; 9/26/21

 

Deu_11:24 WEB  Every place whereon the sole of your foot shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness, and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even to the hinder sea shall be your border.

Deu_11:24 LB  Every place on which the sole of your foot shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, and from the great river, the River Euphrates, even as far as the Western Sea shall be your coasts.

Deu_11:24  πάντα τὸν τόπον, οὗ ἐὰν πατήσῃ τὸ ἴχνος τοῦ ποδὸς ὑμῶν, ὑμῖν ἔσται· ἀπὸ τῆς ἐρήμου καὶ Ἀντιλιβάνου καὶ ἀπὸ τοῦ ποταμοῦ τοῦ μεγάλου, ποταμοῦ Εὐφράτου, καὶ ἕως τῆς θαλάσσης τῆς ἐπὶ δυσμῶν ἔσται τὰ ὅριά σου.

Deu_11:25 WEB  No man shall be able to stand before you: Yahweh your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you on all the land that you shall tread on, as he has spoken to you.

Deu_11:25 No one shall stand before you; and the Lord your God will put the fear of you and the dread of you on the face of all the land, on which you shall tread, as He told you.

Deu_11:25  οὐκ ἀντιστήσεται οὐδεὶς κατὰ πρόσωπον ὑμῶν· τὸν τρόμον ὑμῶν καὶ τὸν φόβον ὑμῶν ἐπιθήσει κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον πάσης τῆς γῆς, ἐφ᾿ ἧς ἐὰν ἐπιβῆτε ἐπ᾿ αὐτῆς, ὃν τρόπον ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς ὑμᾶς.

 

 

Feet Authority

Romans: God of peace soon crush satan under your feet

Enemies your footstoll

Mat_10/11: I have given you authority to trample snakes and scorpians…

The earth is God’s footstool

Psalm 91: trampling the cobra/Asp/etc.

 

Jos_10:24 WEB  It happened, when they brought those kings out to Joshua, that Joshua called for all the men of Israel, and said to the chiefs of the men of war who went with him, "Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings." They came near, and put their feet on their necks.

Jos_10:24 LB  And when they brought them out to Joshua, then Joshua called together all Israel, and the chiefs of the army that went with him, saying to them, “Come forward and set your feet on their necks.” So they came and set their feet on their necks.

Jos_10:24  καὶ ἐπεὶ ἐξήγαγον αὐτοὺς πρὸς Ἰησοῦν, καὶ συνεκάλεσεν Ἰησοῦς πάντα Ισραηλ καὶ τοὺς ἐναρχομένους τοῦ πολέμου τοὺς συμπορευομένους αὐτῷ λέγων αὐτοῖς Προπορεύεσθε καὶ ἐπίθετε τοὺς πόδας ὑμῶν ἐπὶ τοὺς τραχήλους αὐτῶν. καὶ προσελθόντες ἐπέθηκαν τοὺς πόδας αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τοὺς τραχήλους αὐτῶν.

Jos_10:25 WEB  Joshua said to them, "Don't be afraid, nor be dismayed. Be strong and of good courage, for Yahweh will do this to all your enemies against whom you fight."

Jos_10:25 And Joshua said to them, “Do not fear them, neither be cowardly; but be courageous and strong, for thus the Lord will do to all your enemies against whom you fight.”

Jos_10:25  καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτοὺς Ἰησοῦς Μὴ φοβηθῆτε αὐτοὺς μηδὲ δειλιάσητε· ἀνδρίζεσθε καὶ ἰσχύετε, ὅτι οὕτως ποιήσει κύριος πᾶσι τοῖς ἐχθροῖς ὑμῶν, οὓς ὑμεῖς καταπολεμεῖτε αὐτούς.

 

 

 

Deu_7:15 WEB  Yahweh will take away from you all sickness; and none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which you know, he will put on you, but will lay them on all those who hate you.

Deu_7:15 LB  And the Lord your God shall remove all sickness from you; and none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which you have seen, and all that you have known, will He lay upon you; but He will lay them upon all those that hate you.

Deu_7:15  καὶ περιελεῖ κύριος ἀπὸ σοῦ πᾶσαν μαλακίαν· καὶ πάσας νόσους Αἰγύπτου τὰς πονηράς, ἃς ἑώρακας καὶ ὅσα ἔγνως, οὐκ ἐπιθήσει ἐπὶ σὲ καὶ ἐπιθήσει αὐτὰ ἐπὶ πάντας τοὺς μισοῦντάς σε.

>> Sync: HAH/SPI (v 15) | MAEb  (v 15) | TOC (v 15-16)

 

 

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Mat_9:5 CAB For which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Arise and walk'?

 

The word for salvation is also used for healing throughout the Greek Bible. It is much easier to be physically healed (saved) than spiritually healed (saved). There are always more people being supernaturally physically healed (saved) from sickness than there are people being supernaturally spiritually healed (saved) from sin.

8/15/12

 

 

Authority And Healing

>> Change Title to… Faith, Authority, And Healing

>> change filename and 301 it

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

Authority: 10/8-10/9/01 (Mon-Tue); Healing 9/19/02 (Sat; originally done for a public debate); Recompiled together: 10/29/10; 2/12/12; 2/18/12; 4/6/12 (Faith/ “Little Faith”); 8/17/12; 8/21/12; 5/16/13; 6/25/13; 2/2/14; 2/6/17 (recompiled); 10/8/17

 

>> aah Additions / TODO!

 

 

God’s Will is To Heal

9/19/21-9/20/21; 9/26/21

 

Healing And Not Assuming Not Inspiration

11/18/18

 

one of the reasons religious old-timers often love the heresy of not having to believe in healing is because it lets them go about without having to constantly maintain being spiritual and believing and demanding that you are always walking in inspiration........

 

people want to license themselves to walk around in the natural flesh and excuse themselves if their attitude and life postures do not always press toward believing and Supernatural activity...

 

 

Same Payment for Sin and Sickness

9/26/21

 

Isa_52: 53

 

You don’t get to decide this which has already been declared and even applied.

 

Not only is it said originally in Isiah but it is repeatedly applied this faithfully consistent way in the NT:

 

>>Scrip:

Isa applied to sickness and salvation

 

Now if you disobey both Isiah and the NT, no doubt you hate Jesus and are doomed to perish for your hateful rebellion.

 

 

Assurance of Healing & Salvation

9/20/21

 

@Al Notes:

In the Sermon on the Mount we are given enough revelation to hold society accountable to winning or losing. If we are given sufficient markers to determine if someone else is a good tree or bad tree (i.e. those who God will faithfully rescue in their hope or those whom God will faithfully cut down and throw into the fire), then surely we can be with some type of authentic, biblical assurance in favor or opposed to our own soul's fate.

 

If Sermon on the Mount wasn't enough, then consider the other blessed "wkihows" and assurances - forgiving others and confessing your sins, etc.

 

How to Secure Going to Heaven:

·        Obey Sermon on the Mount [Hear & DO!]

·        Forgive others and you WILL be forgiven

·        Confess your sin's and He is faithful and WILL forgive, cleanse, heal you

[1jn1 jam5, etc.]

 

Speaking of confession:

·        Walk around in the light.

·        Confess obvious social blights and frictions and such.

·        And if you really want to be safe and go above & beyond then even if something seems "small", don't shy away from confessing to a righteous person, so that you can max out on walking around in the light and reciprocating with the Truth, being humble and soft hearted and vulnerable and exposed to knowing God even in the smallest degrees.

 

 

Overseer Notes:

Reciprocation is pre-required for forgiveness and forgiveness is pre-required for healing.

 

If you’re not healed yet, confess, reciprocate with those who have been connected to perfect infinity by the sharing with the Father and Son.

 

Healing from a Punishment Sickness for Past Sins

9/20/21

 

@Al:

Even if sickness is a punishment for bad behavior:

 

King Asa was sick in his feet in his latter years and didn't seek the Lord but the physicians

 

If you confess your sin's He is faithful to send them away

 

James says the prayer of faith will save the sick and if they have any sins then they will be forgiven 

 

The Lord was pitiful towards a man who couldn't walk and He healed him (John 5) and then he said to him, 'Go and sin no more lest something worse happen to you'

 

And the list goes on...

 

 

 

Jesus Did Not Always Heal

 

Jesus did not resurrect Joseph nor John the Baptist.

 

Jesus didn't raise Joseph from the dead before his exaltation nor did he raise John the Baptist from the dead after his power had come.

 

 

 

H’s Notes -- Summary of Exhortation

 

haMon 8:35pm

@Ay here are my notes from yesterday

Jesus came up with the answer to provoke faith into ppl

Hyper faith ppl tend think the answer to healing is raw faith, for Baptists they say if it be thy will (im not responsible for believing for a miracle to happen).

Raw faith is like swinging a bat blindfolded, it is bound to hit something and can sometimes get some results by accident

Why aren’t ppls prays answered? Probably lack of raw faith, but also the faith needs to be directed towards the real Jesus. Miracles happen because you hear truth and believe it. If the truth is missing, then you are needing something in order to believe.

You need to know who Jesus is and how it is opposed to the evil that is afflicting you. It is not raw faith it is informed and refined faith. It has been polished by the word of God. Raw faith risks superstition, because faith without a reason is superstition. Faith because of truth is monotheistic. The results of superstitious faith is lawlessness. If you just give the bible some sort of credit it should work, but that doesn’t mean they are true and saved.

Those who know who God is in one context and doesn’t know God in another context, is still lacking in truly knowing who God is. You know you know who the real God is when you are able to be without sin all day and having the appropriate response throughout the day. Pray to know who God is before your trials, and during your trials, or else your trials will come upon you as a thief in the night and overtake you.

Everytime we are saved we should be saved by the knowledge of Jesus who wants all men to be saved.

You can be sick and die in faith waiting for Jesus to be revealed.

In the presence of the revealation of Jesus, no sickness or evil can live. God is patient and strategic to reveal who he is at the right time

We never ever give up the hope that Gods will to heal a person

New testament and old testament have similar principles in regards to healing, but NT has much greater promises

Jesus’ sacrifice covers both forgiveness of sins and healing. But more has been revealed in very plain language about forgivness of sins and not as much about healing. We need more revelation to see all the healing we want to see.

Just like David and those of old faithed into a name they did not know and died in a hope and their faith was not in vain, we can hope and believe and endure for God to heal us, and even if we die, we can die in hope.

Job had to wait and endure in illness until God revealed who he was to Job. You have to wait for healing not because God is not willing because you have to wait to know who God is. When you know who God is, all of your sicknesses, demons, and sins go away. James look back at Job as an example of faithful endurance.

If you know who God is, that is the only thing that eager earnest disciples need to do amazing things, even move mountains.

If you give up that God can heal someone, because then you wont be ready to raise someone from the dead. Don’t sorrow as those who don’t have hope. Even if they die you never give up hope.

 

Jesus Still Needs to Be Revealed

 

People are…

 

>>Scrip:

clouds without rain

 

when they boast to the heavens about how much they believe…

 

and boast how much they KNOW g-d…..

 

But the righteous are deeper thinkers and are honest and not lying and boasting about any evil lying knowledge.

 

The real God and Jesus are NOT easily known, nor is even Jesus really fully revealed

 

Rev_19: unknown name that is yet to be revealed

That’s the whole point of Revelation -- the Revelation of Jesus anointed one…!

 

Authority and healing are a direct result of Knowing who God is and believing in Him.

 

Superstition is like swinging a bat in the dark blindfolded, but monotheism reverently pauses upon the need to really know God particularly in each situation.

 

Identity That Heals

 

>>Scrip:

I am the resurrection

Spat and made mud… he came to acknowledge “the son of God”

This kind only comes out by prayer [and fasting]

 

 

then you will know that I am the Lord

 

 

@Vc:

9/26/21

Did Jesus reveal enough already for us to have healing or is there more that needs to be revealed?

 

 

Healing Procedures

Gospels: Forgive!

James: Elders of the church… confess!

1Ti_2: she will be saved

 

 

When Healing Stalls

9/21/21

 

to whatever degree someone already has the Truth, this means they simply need to remove all doubt and increase in raw Faith to have their prayers answered because that raw basic resource will be refined when simply applied to what they already know. what they already know is worthy of unrestricted faith and therefore they need to simply increase in zeal toward that. they need to believe deeper in what has already been shown to them and it will work.

 

many times, in this age of apostasy, Truth hasn't even been shown to us, which is why it seems so hard for people to be saved and to be healed and to see miracles...

 

so how much do we need to believe deeper into what we have already seen and heard, like the disciples in Jesus's day, and how much do we actually still need essential Truth so that we can believe with integrity in reality to potently save us, heal us, and do powerful miracles in our day?

 

to what degree do we need to believe what we have already heard more intensely?

 

to what degree do we still need to know what to believe in (especially in light of this age of apostasy and ignorant atheism which is painfully and shamefully lacking the knowledge of God)?

 

to what degree do we need to be patient for God of Heaven to reveal who He is, in reality again upon the Earth, and much more also besides?

 

furthermore, if we are in need of believing more deeply, intensely, and zealously in what we already know, to what degree do we need to be patient for God to bring about healing, whether that be Job, or whether that even be a principal as great as Jesus, growing up and waiting to be exalted in the time that God is ready to answer our prayers and do power and miracles and healing again?

 

whether we are waiting to know who God is, or we are waiting to be exalted, or whether we're in need of being more zealous for what we already know, in all of these cases we have many reasons to wait patiently and increase in zeal, and in none of these cases do we have any justified occasion to profane the counsel of Heaven by suggesting God is not willing to heal.

 

even if we have to wait all the way until His very appearing in order to know enough about who He is in order to see prayers for healing answered, this still doesn't change the will of God to save heal and do miracles, and that this is the very thing that he has already fully paid for in the past with his blood.

 

so, godspeed the day that we will already know Him who is the resurrection before He even comes in person (as He Himself has already implied in The story of Lazarus) so that we will have no restrictions on obtaining all answers to all our prayers.

 

notice that in The story of Lazarus Jesus tells them more about His own identity by saying, "I am the resurrection" - and this identity of His second coming, and His character to raise the Dead, is exactly what we need to see all power and signs and wonders and prayers answered for healing.

 

if we can finally realize that the Truth is infinite and unlimited, then just as much as we actually really know Him and His Divine Infiniti, so also will our prayers be limitless and the power given to us will be infinite.

 

it is essentially (almost always) giving up to say that it is not God's will to heal (that is, as long as you're not talking about predestination, which is usually the case when discussing healing).

 

saying that it is not God's will is a way of giving up on faith and denying your responsibility to obey the Bible and believe for healing.

 

you cannot outsource your responsibility to believe for healing back on God and blame Him for not wanting to heal when you are actually the one unwilling to believe for healing, and your are actively sinning by choosing to doubt and excusing yourself from stretching your faith and pretending like you're not sinning when you are, just like 1 John 1:8 says...

you say that it is not His will to heal and you are lying and pretending like you are not sinning when you are disobeying his Revelation that it is His will, and it is your responsibility to believe Him until you see it.

 

so when you say it is not His will to heal you are not only giving up on faith but are hypocritically accusing God of the very crime you are committing in accusing Him of being unwilling to heal.

you are justifying yourself instead of justifying God, when it's obviously you that are the variable here.

 

if you give up on faith you are not even doing the deeds that are trying to be in the internship to see people raised from the dead.

 

those who say that it is not always God's will to heal our loving the sinful flesh where they are comfortable and are hating God where it is supernatural and spiritual and convicting against their evil lifestyle of Bible disobedience.

 

if you give up on faith you will not see great miracles nor live in any significant spiritual capacity.

 

but if you instead deny all wicked fleshly subdivine excuses, then you will be loved when you worship Him who is spiritual and calls you to the same.

 

if you give up on faith you will not be spiritual or connected to the God who is supernatural.

 

but if you instead keep on praying, and keep On believing, leaning earnestly into faith, and you remain and endure, willing to wait as long as God lays it upon you in order to see needed prayers answered, then inevitably the promise is that, just as you have waited in unwavering faith like Abraham for your prayers to the answer without choosing doubt in the times of your probation and humiliation, then so also in the time of your exaltations your prayers will be answered swiftly, even without having to wait, as a reward for the proof of your faith before God.

 

those who choose doubt will neither have their prayers ultimately answered nor will they be glorified with instantaneous miracles.

 

but those who are willing to wait and even go hungry, and never doubt the Creator to provide, will not only be rewarded with their prayers being answered in good time, but they will also be glorified with instant miracles of supernatural healing and provision in the end, as a praise and glory for the proof of their things and the exaltation of their life as it graduates out of probation into glorification.

 

 

How Long to Keep Praying if Someone Dies

9/20/21

 

@Al: When considering the prayer of faith to raise others from the dead, two important questions to ask:

(1)Are they righteous?

(2)Was their mission on earth completed?

 

Overseer:

 

So how long to pray?

 

7 days of mourning if they are unbelievers…

 

But if someone righteous like Job dies, then you never give up, especially if they have not yet completed their mission on earth!

 

Joh_11:38-44 – Lazarus Raised from the Dead

 

Ezekiel 37 – The valley of dry bones

 

Don’t Ever Give Up Hoping for Salvation or healing.

 

@Al Notes:

Don't every give up hoping for healing. Likewise, don't ever give up hoping to be saved.

9/20/21

 

Predestination Interfaces Healing

where does predestination intersect with healing?

9/21/21; 9/26/21

 

The Reality of Predestination Needs to Interface with our understanding of Healing, especially when it comes to talking about God’s “will” to heal.

In a sense, everything that happens is God’s will, but in another sense, everything that happens is not His desire.

In a Predestination sense, everything that happens is God’s will since He is in control of everything and decides everything.

In a freewill sense, God’s desired will is almost never happening gloriously among men, because they are ‘always brooding only on sin continually’ (Gen_6).

Because God is so wise He practices delayed gratification to accomplish His ultimate master plan for the universe.

 

So is it God’s will for people to be healed?

If people aren’t healed, is it “God’s will”?

 

Yes, if we are talking about God’s enforced predestined will, then no one can resist it.

But to whatever degree we can choose, then God desires us to choose faith to be saved and to be healed.

It is not God’s desired will ‘that any should perish’ (1Ti_2:) or be sick, because salvation and sickness work off of the exact same principles based on the exact same sacrificial payment.

 

 

So we see that some people indeed are confusing the experience of non healing by flip-flopping the providential will of God with the desired will of God.

 

However, in the providential will of God, He does whatever He wants, and 'no one can resist His will', and man is a recipient and product of everything He chooses.

 

in the providential will of God, God chooses everything that exists from His infinite divinity without input from anyone else.

 

However, in God's desired will, he is, indeed, persuaded by His own creatures.

 

so we may have indeed experienced someone dying without any budge or sense of willingness from heaven to heal them.

 

We have experienced these things just as it is common to humanity.

 

although many people might conclude from this that God was unwilling to heal, yet the unwillingness was usually on the human side of not being willing to repent of sin or admit that it was even sin, and even less are people really willing to believe that God is willing to heal.

 

therefore, in most cases where it seems like God is unwilling to heal it is actually us who are unwilling to obey.

 

Yes, heaven seems "locked up" because our hearts are so hard.

 

so, most of the time We see people not healed, it is not actually God's providential will that is being experienced, but our free will that is choosing to disobey.

 

because we are not willing to wait on God in Faith, therefore God is waiting on us instead.

 

this is a freewill scenario where the Creator is actually opening Himself up to be persuaded by His creatures, but tragically His creatures are not very romantic toward moving His heart to do what He is eager to do.

 

no it may seem that heaven is tightly closed up and unwilling to heal, yet if we did what we are responsible to do and lift it up our voice to no wisdom, then God has promised he will reveal himself to those who seek him with all of their heart.

 

and when we know who God really is then we agree with the phenomena that Jesus brought to earth: That God is indeed more good than we thought, and more eager to do much more good than we ever expected based on our unsaved experience and perspective of the world.

 

but even if we experience any of God's Providence that prevents us from seeing healing, it is not even that His providential will is against healing, but that his Providence chooses the times and seasons that His character and identity is revealed.

 

everything that the Bible even slightly tells us about His providential will toward healing is already affirming healing, because it is His providence that ordained the Messiah to be sacrificed before the foundations of the world, in which will He has already paid for every sickness and disease and every sin.

 

so He's Providence has already chosen and glorified healing, especially for His elect.

 

He's Providence from before our concept of time has already glorified His holy ones on into eternity.

 

beyond chronological time, God has sovereignly chosen 100% healing for those He loves, and even that is an understatement for all the salvation he has already accomplished for them into infinity.

 

so in a sense, sovereignty doesn't directly tell us whether or not people will be healed, but more so it tells us who will be saved, and it is pre determined that the objects of His wrath will be eternally afflicted and the objects of His mercy will be eternally healed glorified saved and energized with divinity forever.

 

And while his sovereignty certainly does cover everything including whether or not people are healed, yet it is not in the realm of our responsibility to understand the incomprehensible paths of his predestination on every point.

 

and the Bible only does a little to teach about God's sovereign independent determination of healing:

 

>> Scrip:

God had mercy on me

 

for healing and salvation the Bible does make use of the reality of God's Providence to teach us who to trust in and who to believe in and from whom to be empowered by without your own works in order to see salvation and hearing.

 

beyond this, the Bible spends most of its time in the realm of free will for salvation and human.

 

and while salvation and healing work essentially the same way in the Bible, yet election is 100% predestination.

 

so election is described in the context of who destination, and salvation are most often described in context of free will.

 

 

but most of what we get about God's sovereignty is about election...

 

we can see that God has not chosen the rich and therefore they cannot endure in trials like James tells us.

 

but God has chosen poor beggars...

 

and for those who somehow endure in faith, His providence will prove True to have chosen them to know Him, and these same ones who endure by the power of God are also the ones who will receive The answers to their prayers, and end up persuading their Creator in the realm of free will to respond to His promises and payments to heal - weather sooner or later.

 

so when we are talking about healing, let us not attribute God's will against it, because even if we drift into the realm of Providence and predestination, that discussion is really about His control of how and when His identity is revealed, but concerning healing He has already shown His will that it is for healing.

 

when determining when God's identity is revealed the Bible says much about free will and predestination. but in regards to determining whether or not people are healed, the Bible almost exclusively communicates to us in the realm of free will.

 

healing is a conditional phenomena that is primarily described in the realm of our responsibility to believe by faith.

 

those who blame God for not being willing to heal are inventing a will that the Bible never presents to us.

 

God's sovereign will can tell us how His identity is revealed, and free will can tell us how people can be healed.

 

>> Scrip:

it's about time we learn to not go beyond what is written.

 

And if you want to go into Arabia and get a greater Revelation to bring back to us, then I will thank you as long as it glorifies the truth that has already been revealed in the scriptures. And by that time you'll probably also teach us how to obtain healing from basically every sickness and disease.

 

but let us first faithfully speak the same as the Bible speaks about healing, just as it is not advisable for human to make up his own religion.

 

let us stay consistent with biblical tendencies and themes when discussing what the Bible says about healing until our lives and experiences finally line up and look the same as the Bible, just as we are obligated.

 

Doctors & Supernatural Healing are both Biblical

the coexistence of Supernatural healing as well as responsible doctoring

~2016? (When to Go to the Doctor) 12/15/18; 9/26/21 (recompiled & combined)

 

Luk_10:33-34 CAB  But a certain Samaritan, as he traveled, came by him; and when he saw him, he was moved with compassion.  34  And coming to him, he bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine [i.e. medicine]; and putting him on his own animal, he brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

 

Luk_10:37 CAB  …Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."

 

1Ti_5:23 CAB No longer drink water only, but use a little wine on account of your stomach, and your frequent illnesses.

 

Sir_38:12-14 Brenton  Then give place to the physician, for the Lord hath created him: let him not go from thee, for thou hast need of him.  13  There is a time when in their hands there is good success.  14  For they shall also pray unto the Lord, that he would prosper that, which they give for ease and remedy to prolong life.

 

sirach 37

go and do likewise as the Good Samaritan

Luke the doctor

 

if you are a blabbing Pentecostal you might like to fancy your heresy to imagine that the New Testament has undone the need for doctors...

you may be tempted to say this after someone might read something like Sirach, but the fact that the New Testament reinforces the same value as Sirach, absolutely disproves this unbiblical name it and claim it philosophy...

even though the New covenant certainly places a much greater emphasis on Divine healing, it does not erase or abolish the appropriateness of doctors...

 

it is really healthy and many ways to be righteous and sound and orthodox...

 

@Al: Cultural Advantages Toward Healing?

9/26/21

 

Sun 1:40pm(edited)

My mom had said that my grandma's next door neighbor was a cancer survivor. My mom said, 'and she was Jamaican, and Jamaicans tend to know how to live longer due to their home remedies and concoctions and such'.

My grandpa has had prostate cancer, a stroke, etc...and he is still living at 83. His wife (my jamaican-sounding grandma) said that she is not going to leave it up to doctors, but with all her might she is determined to keep her "usban" alive as long as possible...

 

On a pragmatic healing note, do certain cultures and/or ethnicities have more of an advantage over others with staying alive longer? Are white Europeans (or maybe it's moreso Americanized Westerners) around the bottom of the totem poll in regards to knowing how to take care of themselves?

 

Sun 1:43pm

Btw, Sir's mom said that Africa is seeming to do pretty well, relatively speaking, in regards to the Corona virus pandemic...not sure how true that statistic is or not.

 

Sun 2:19pm

@hd Addition to the Cultural Healing Question

 

Americanized Westerners:

From the family tree history stories of both Sir's parents, I haven't heard of anyone yet living past the average expected age of 78.

Same with my mom's side of the family...

 

Doesn't just seem like a genetic thing, but maybe people "perishing from lack of knowledge" type of a thing...?

 

VcSun 2:30pm

@Al btw at one point Jamaica had the longest living woman and her son. They were both centenarians. The son died over 100 years old of "old age" while his mother kept on living after him.

 

VcSun 2:34pm

correction he was 97 when he died and was know as the oldest person alive with living parent

 

 

What was Paul’s Thorn in the Flesh?

>> AAH | SPI > Warfare

>> look up and compare greek/Hebrew

Jos_23:13 WEB  know for a certainty that Yahweh your God will no longer drive these nations from out of your sight; but they shall be a snare and a trap to you, a scourge in your sides, and thorns [Heb???] in your eyes, until you perish from off this good land which Yahweh your God has given you.

Jos_23:13 LB  know that the Lord will no more destroy these nations from before you; and they will be to you snares and stumbling blocks, and nails in your heels, and darts in your eyes [εἰς βολίδας ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ὑμῶν], until you are destroyed from off this good land, which the Lord your God has given you.

Jos_23:13  γινώσκετε ὅτι οὐ μὴ προσθῇ κύριος τοῦ ἐξολεθρεῦσαι τὰ ἔθνη ταῦτα ἀπὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, καὶ ἔσονται ὑμῖν εἰς παγίδας καὶ εἰς σκάνδαλα καὶ εἰς ἥλους ἐν ταῖς πτέρναις ὑμῶν καὶ εἰς βολίδας ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ὑμῶν, ἕως ἂν ἀπόλησθε ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς τῆς ἀγαθῆς ταύτης, ἣν ἔδωκεν ὑμῖν κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

 

MT: in Your Sides

Jdg_2:3 WEB  Therefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare to you.

Jdg_2:3 LB  And I said, I will not drive them out from before you, but they shall be for a distress to you, and their gods shall be to you for an offense.’”

Jdg_2:3  κἀγὼ εἶπον Οὐ μὴ ἐξαρῶ αὐτοὺς ἐκ προσώπου ὑμῶν, καὶ ἔσονται ὑμῖν εἰς συνοχάς, καὶ οἱ θεοὶ αὐτῶν ἔσονται ὑμῖν εἰς σκάνδαλον.

 

These passages directly correlate with our spiritual battle: the Canaanites were thorns, and Paul’s “Thorn” was an “angel” of Satan

 

 

A Sickness Unto Death?

5/12/15

Original 2015 Title: Part 1 – A Sickness Unto Death?

 

John: Jesus: Lazarus: This sickness is not unto death...

 

Does that imply that there is sickness unto death?

 

It is always God's Will to heal.

Some people say, "If that I the case, then how would any believer ever die?"

 

 

But the fundamental confusion comes in as church people often assume that when you say that "It is always God's Will to heal" this means that "It is always God's Will to heal right now" and that is NOT the same thing, nor is there anything implied in all the promises of healing in the Scriptures that we will always have immediate healing.

 

 

Job's example shows us that God's will to heal might take time, and James referencing to Job when speaking of healing includes the notion that it might take time right before he says "the prayer of faith will heal the sick."

 

 

So then, is there any sickness in God's Kingdom? If you hesitate with some serious lack of knowledge, let me ask in another way that might provoke you to understanding... Is there any sickness in the Kingdome of Heaven? Do you hear yet? Is there any sickness in heaven in the presence of God who 'is your healer'? Now if Jesus "Healed every sickness and every disease" while on earth, certainly you should gladly say that much more now that He is "highly exalted" and Glorified will He, along with the Father, more potently drive every sickness out of their sight in the most profound and unimaginable ways.

God is the healer and the Great physician. There is no sickness allowed to remain in the presence of God for the righteous who have come to dwell with Him. There is no sickness in heaven; there is no sickness in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Listen, and do not be hard hearted. Love truth when it tells you to always believe: If the Kingdom of heaven comes on earth, to that same degree sicknesses are healed. If sicknesses remain, then there is still something incomplete, and we should wait and seek to see this changed.

If at any time you begin to be foolish and unorthodox, and say that God wants you to be sick, or that sickness is of His Kingdom, then you have left the straight path and are wandering in pitiful darkness.

But as it always is, the world has been assigned and subjected to evil and vanity (Rom 8) and it is always the work of God to raise up weak people and make them great workers of amazing faith so that He might be glorified when believing humans obtain His understanding to bring His Kingdom 'on earth as it is in heaven'. And if you think God wants you to be sick, then why in heaven are you vainly praying the Lord's prayer repeatedly without believing it or even agreeing with it?

God is glorified when people believe Him enough to constantly seek to make the dominance of His Kingdom crush the evil pattern of this sin-cursed age. God wants to see people healed as much as He wants to see His glorious Kingdom come on earth, where there is no sin nor sickness, but only truth, faith, and victory!

 

 

Church Confusion of God's will for healing is largely related to some church people seeking to believe that Jesus wants to keep healing 'all manner of sickness and disease' just as He did when He was here on earth, and certainly He does! But when we ought to pray for healing, do we truly do so as Jesus did when He was so potently anointed to heal?

Jesus was so great and complete and perfect that when He was exalted in ministry, He was continually bringing the Kingdom of Heaven in His works... But when we pray our little prayer for healing, we got to realize that even Jesus had to wait 30 years before He was Anointed and commissioned to mightily overthrow sickness as quickly as He did like that.

 

 

It is definitely true that "the prayer of faith will heal the sick", but while this is a guarantee of healing when we apprehend proper faith to see this happen, this is not a guarantee that we will necessarily be immediately exalted to do so quickly what took Jesus 30 year of patient faith and endurance to build up!

 

 

And while we wonder about why people don't just get healed like they did in the Bible, we need to realize that miracles and healings are about bringing the Kingdom of heaven on earth as Jesus did in His preaching...

"the prayer of faith will heal the sick" -- absolutely no exceptions or ambiguity. But people always seem to assume that they are always able to pray in faith for healing even when they have no idea what special needs are at hand in order to bring the Kingdom... And they are not even beginning to imitate the careful and prophetic faith of Jesus...

 

 

In some cases Jesus spit and made mud. In other cases He did other things. Somewhere healed in the city, while others were taken out of the city to be healed. Somewhere healed with a word, others were healed with a touch.

In some cases He asked the father for more information, and in other cases He already had the Word of knowledge to know exactly what was needed for healing.

 

 

But Even after Jesus was officially christened to heal, it still says in one passage, "the power of the Lord was present to heal". Even Jesus had to submissively wait by faith on the Father for healing power. And this is in the exact same way as it says in Acts, 'God did special healings so that even the handkerchief from Paul healed people'.

This is never 'healing on demand' a though you can make a cheap paid service out of this without reverence and faith.

 

 

But rather, this submission and dependence on God is why it is totally reasonable for Paul to say, "...He was sick, but God had mercy on me so I would not have sorrow upon sorrow"

Clean, Monotheistic miracle-workers have always had to submit to God before going out on their own initiative.

 

 

And as I said, even Jesus had to wait 30 years for healing all of those sicknesses and diseases! Evidently Jesus even had to "stand by" and watch His own adopted father die in the meantime while He was waiting to finally massively heal all these people. If we truly follow in this same Biblical faith, whenever we pray, we might not know how long it may take to obtain the promise of healing...

 

Job waited for healing, and in the end, God healed Job. It took time, but God showed His will when He healed Job.

 

Jesus said, "I am willing" so we should never hypocritically suggest otherwise after He has already answered that question.

...

And can you imagine Abraham saying to Sarah, "God said He was going to give us a child, but I am not sure if He is willing"

 

So then, we return to our earlier question: is it possible for righteous and believing people to die of sickness?

 

 

Of course it is! But in your confusion you still say, "How is it then still possible for those with faith to die, when we have been saying all of these things??"

 

Paul leaving people in cities sick...

 

Lazarus died while waiting for Jesus.

 

Poor man Lazarus died while waiting for healing.

 

 

Jesus speaks nothing at all negative about this poor man when he died sick, but on the contrary, He praised him as a poor person worthy of comfort of the blessed patriarch Abraham in the afterlife.

 

Righteous people can die sick, and the Scriptures even record this in the NT

Lazarus

Poor man Lazarus

Paul leaving people places sick

 

 

Ignorant church people jump on this and assume that this proves that it is not God's will to heal, but these assumptions are totally bogus and foolish and illogical.

 

 

Have you ever considered that just because someone dies while sick, that does not at all prove that it is not God's will to heal them? Take righteous and blessed Lazarus who believed Jesus gloriously enough to be praised, but was still waiting for the Kingdom in his sickness, and while He sought to recover and find the answer for how to fulfill truth on the earth, he died in the mist of sickness, all while righteously waiting and believing to know truth and find what God the Father was requiring in order to bring His good Kingdom.

 

 

When Jesus finally arrived (seemingly too late) Jesus was all up in the season of His great exaltation in bringing the Kingdom, and so He even healed Lazarus by raising him from the dead.

 

 

Now if you look at a righteous person's death as though it is evidence, or even proof that it is not God's will to heal, then you are grossly in error and unbiblical unbelief, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God which glories even in raising the dead (as Jesus teaches).

 

 

Don't be foolish, forgetful, short sighted and blind so as to have completely unbiblical and false doctrine when it comes to healing.

 

 

Just because you are crushed at someone's death (as you should be) that does not mean that it is time for Marry, Martha, and the rest of the Jews to assume an evil and unbelieving conclusion of God's will that is contrary to God's promise as explicitly taught in this story.

 

 

We ought to learn from Mary's faith that says, 'even now I know that God will give you whatever you ask' (she being a good Jew who believed what the Scriptures told about the resurrections which the prophets performed), and we ought to learn the whole point of the story of Lazarus' death that we never ever have any excuse to fear or doubt, but we should always believe that 'all things are possible with God' and 'all things are possible with the one who believes', as it says, 'He is able to do more than we ask or imagine according to the power at work within us'. The tender and soft-hearted faith that believes that God can always do anything, is always righteous, and the foolish doubt that assumes unbelief in dire circumstances is always evil.

 

 

When David waited in hope that God 'would not leave his soul in hell', he even died in faith and hope, knowing the kind will of God was to save and heal, as it says, 'i will rest in hope'. In the end, what does it matter that it took hundreds of years before David was visited and finally rescued by "the Son of David" and pulled out of deaths and brought into the glorious presence of God? As it says, "the tombs of many rightous people were opened and they were seen in the holy city." And, "when He ascended, He lead captivity captive in His terrain" -- that is, Jesus resurrected bodily while bringing up with Him these righteous souls, and then later He lead those who were previously captives in hell, these He lead up with Him, having them trailing behind Him when He finally ascended to the Father.

 

>> check timeline…

If this is the glorious heritage of those who rest in hope believing in the truth of the real gospel to heal and save them, then what does it matter if it takes hundreds of years? It is so glorious, it is worth the wait. And what if a New Covenant saint waits in faith for healing and dies waiting for the Kingdome? And what if they like Lazarus and David die in hope while their faithful friends, who are real believers, encircle around them (as they did Paul) and pray and seek for God to help them know what is possibly needed in order to raise them from the dead? And what if, in the "worst case scenario", some other righteous people die and have to wait like Lazarus did, until Jesus comes, before they finally receive the promise of faith when miracles are inevitably done to those who died in the faith that it has always been God's will to heal?

 

 

Even if someone dies, you never have an excuse to doubt God's willingness to heal. You are always obliged to believe that it is always God's will to heal. They can be raised at the resurrection, and if you will wait in faith, it is possible that they can even get raised right now!

 

 

Seek the Kingdom of Heaven. Put away from you all evil excuses to doubt, and pray the prayers of faith given by James, and believe without doubting that God will heal. This is the righteousness of faith that is clean and innocent. It is the truth that believes that God "forgives all of our sins, and heals all our diseases".

 

 

The sooner and more intensely we bring the Kingdom of Heaven the better. And if you are so sure that we still need a theological reason to die, rather than obtaining the Thessalonian mystery of just being kept alive until Jesus returns and snatches us up, as even Jesus somewhat freely and faithfully indicated was a possibly for John... If you are still convinced that we definitely need a theological reason to die, then what if we just "gave up the ghost" as it sometimes describes the saints of old, or better yet, what if instead of dying by sickness we got the privilege and honor of dying as martyrs and then we get to standing up again in resurrection very quickly at the return of Jesus?

 

If we need to die, there is no excuse in the process of dying to doubt God's promise to always be willing to heal.

 

 

Death by Sickness for the Righteous?

 

We see that Elisha died by a sickness but had all the power necessary in his bones even after his death for resurrection...

 

this is quite a glorious death indeed...

 

how shall we reconcile that Jesus paid for every sickness and disease?

 

is it possible to die a glorious death by sickness like Elisha under the new covenant when Jesus is paid for all sickness and disease?

 

or is this story more similar than it is different, in that, Elisha was not defeated by sickness but his mission was complete and he had everything necessary to be healed and even resurrect from the dead but Providence shows that it was time for him to lay down and go away and for him to wait for that payment to be the fulfilled in the ultimate resurrection...

 

 

Healing Basics

For Standing Up For The Truth In The Debate

What Is The Truth On Healing?

It Is Always God s Will To Heal

 

What About Paul’s Sickness and other Ordained Sicknesses?

Absolute Verses:

Greek

Elijah s Prayer of Faith:

17  that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases."

1Pe_2:24  who his own self bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed2390.

Psa 103

Heb 8

Rachel Bucnis verses

Chantell Verses

How To Believe/ Do Faith

 

Ordained Sicknesses?

What About Paul’s Sickness and other Ordained Sicknesses?

 

Gal_4:13-15

 

Yes, Paul was sick, and so was Job, But what does James say about that? Did they stay sick?

 

2Co_12:7 – Some people insanely insert the thorn in the flesh

 

 

 

Joh_9:2

No, “they were made sick by God’s will, that God could be glorified by their healing

 

What Jacob?

 

Jam  5

13  Is any among you suffering? Let him pray. Is any cheerful? Let him sing praises.

14  Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the assembly, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord,

15  and the prayer of faith will heal 4982 him who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

16  Confess your offenses to one another, and pray one for another, that you may be healed.2390 The effective, earnest prayer of a righteous man is powerfully effective.

17  Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and it didn't rain on the earth for three years and six months.

18  He prayed again, and the sky gave rain, and the earth brought forth its fruit.

 

Greek

(Equals forgiveness in principle and in Greek)

heal G4982  σώζω  sōzō   sode'-zo

From a primary word σῶς sōs̄ (contraction for the obsolete σάος saos,  safe ); to save, that is, deliver or protect (literally or figuratively): - heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

 

Healed G2390  ἰάομαι  iaomai  ee-ah'-om-ahee

Middle voice of apparently a primary verb; to cure (literally or figuratively): - heal, make whole.

 

Requirements:

1. Elders 2. Anointing 3. Effective Fervent Prayer of Faith (from a righteous man) 4. Confession 5. Others Interceding 6. (Implied) Persistent, repeated, prayer

 

1Ki 18 – Elijah’s Prayer of Faith

41  Elijah said to Ahab, Get you up, eat and drink; for there is the sound of abundance of rain.

42  So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he bowed himself down on the earth, and put his face between his knees.

43  He said to his servant, Go up now, look toward the sea. He went up, and looked, and said, There is nothing. He said, Go again seven times.

44  It happened at the seventh time, that he said, Behold, there arises a cloud out of the sea, as small as a man's hand. He said, Go up, tell Ahab, Make ready your chariot, and get you down, that the rain not stop you.

45  It happened in a little while, that the sky grew black with clouds and wind, and there was a great rain.

 

Fig Tree – Mat_21:18; Mar_11:12

 

13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. [14] Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

 

MK 11

20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. [21] Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

 

    MK 11:22 "Have faith in God," Jesus answered. 23 "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, `Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. [24] Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. [25] And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins. "

 

 

Isa 53

4  Surely403 he1931 has borne5375 our griefs,2483 and carried5445 our sorrows:4341 yet we587 did esteem2803 him stricken,5060 smitten5221 of God,430 and afflicted.6031

5  But he1931 was wounded2490 for our transgressions,4480, 6588 he was bruised1792 for our iniquities:4480, 5771 the chastisement4148 of our peace7965 was upon5921 him; and with his stripes2250 we are healed.7495

 

Aflictions/Griefs/Sorrows-    

Strongs:  H2483 חלי  chŏlı̂y  khol-ee'

From H2470; malady, anxiety, calamity: - disease, grief, (is) sick (-ness).

BDB Definition:  H2483  חלי  chŏlı̂y

1) sickness  & Same Word by TWOT Number: 655a

 

 

Mat 8

16  When evening came, they brought to him many possessed with demons. He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed2323 all who were sick;

17  that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases."

 

1Pe_2:24 – Healed of Sins

1Pe_2:24  who his own self bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed2390.

 

Psa 103 – Heals All… Even in OT!

2  Praise Yahweh, my soul, And don't forget all his benefits;

3  Who forgives all your sins; Who heals7495 all your diseases; (WEB)

 

H7495  רפה    רפא  râphâ'  râphâh   raw-faw', raw-faw'

A primitive root; properly to mend (by stitching), that is, (figuratively) to cure: - cure, (cause to) heal, physician, repair, X thoroughly, make whole. See H7503.

 

Heb 8

6 But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises.

 

Pre-Commissions

 

Mat_10:1  He called to himself his twelve disciples, and gave them authority [ability/power] over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal2323 every disease and every sickness. (WEB)

(Mk6:7, Lk 9:1)

 

Mat 10:8 Heal2323 the sick, cleanse2511 the lepers, and cast out demons. Freely you received, so freely give.

 

Mar 3

14  And2532 he ordained4160 twelve,1427 that2443 they should be5600 with3326 him,846 and2532 that2443 he might send them forth649, 846 to preach,2784

15  And2532 to have2192 power1849 to heal2323 sicknesses,3554 and2532 to cast out1544 devils:1140

 

 

Great Commission: Mar 16

15  And2532 he said2036 unto them,846 Go4198 into1519 all537 the3588 world,2889 and preach2784 the3588 gospel2098 to every3956 creature.2937

16  He that believeth4100 and2532 is baptized907 shall be saved;4982 but1161 he that believeth not569 shall be damned.2632

17  And1161 these5023 signs4592 shall follow3877 them3588 that believe;4100 In1722 my3450 name3686 shall they cast out1544 devils;1140 they shall speak2980 with new2537 tongues;1100

18  They shall take up142 serpents;3789 and if2579 they drink4095 any5100 deadly thing,2286 it shall not3364 hurt984 them;846 they shall lay2007 hands5495 on1909 the sick,732 and2532 they shall recover.2192, 2573

 

Heal:

1. G2390 ἰάομαι  iaomai  ee-ah'-om-ahee

Middle voice of apparently a primary verb; to cure (literally or figuratively): - heal, make whole.

2. G2323  θεραπεύω  therapeuō  ther-ap-yoo'-o

From the same as G2324; to wait upon menially, that is, (figuratively) to adore (God), or (specifically) to relieve (of disease): - cure, heal, worship.

3. G4982  σώζω  sōzō   sode'-zo

From a primary word σῶς sōs̄ (contraction for the obsolete σάος saos,  safe ); to save, that is, deliver or protect (literally or figuratively): - heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

 

Christ-ified to Heal

>> old title: Emo Healing:

Luk 4

18  The Spirit4151 of the Lord2962 is upon1909 me,1691 because3757, 1752 he hath anointed5548 me3165 to preach the gospel2097 to the poor;4434 he hath sent649 me3165 to heal2390 the3588 brokenhearted,4937, 2588 to preach2784 deliverance859 to the captives,164 and2532 recovering of sight309 to the blind,5185 to set649 at1722 liberty859 them that are bruised,2352

19             To preach2784 the acceptable1184 year1763 of the Lord.2962

(Isah_61:1)

 

Rom_3 Healing

It’s always the nature of the Father s heart to want to heal, (what did Jesus do?)

 

“My aunt didn t get he healed?”

Who changed, the Bible or us?

 

Rom 3

3  For what if some were without faith? Will their lack of faith nullify the faithfulness of God?

4  May it never be! Yes, let God be found true, but every man a liar. As it is written, "That you might be justified in your words, And might prevail when you come into judgment."

 

Ask Anything

1Jo 5

14  This is the boldness which we have toward him, that, if we ask anything according to his will, he listens to us.

15  And if we know that he listens to us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions which we have asked of him. (WEB)

 

-this makes the difference between our denomination and other denominations.

If we agree to the proposition then the other denominations make a lot more or sense and ours does not.

If we say  it might not be God s will to heal, then we contradict our prayers according to the scripture.

 

“If it be they will” = a special individual calling based circumstance.

-This is often a false guise to not admit  I just don t have enough faith.

 

Mat 8 – “I Am Willing” -- Jesus Already answered that question!

1 When he came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. [2] A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean."

3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," [I want to] he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy. (NIV)

 

Luk 5 – Power Present to Heal

not if He is willing, but is  the power of the Lord present to heal…

 

Luk 5

The power of the Lord was with him to heal them.

 

So, this is not to say that He will always heal, but that he is always willing.

 

Power Dependence Condemns Hyper/forced Faith

Power Dependence = Dependence upon Truth/Spirit/Authority/Prophecy

 

-look at examples:

(Ideal perfection found in Jesus)

 

Healing ALL

MT 4:23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people.

(& Mt. 9:35)

 

-Every single one who came to him, (without exception), got healed.  It was not, “sorry, it is not the father s will to heal you today”

-Never!  (he called em dogs and the like, but never denied them healing).

 

Believers Imitate Jesus’ Works

Joh_14:12  Most assuredly I tell you, he who believes in me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these will he do; because I am going to my Father.  

13  Whatever you will ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.  

14  If you will ask anything in my name, I will do it.

 

Think:

At the places where he didn t heal, the problem was because of doubt and because people were not poor and Spirit, but  because it was not the fathers will.

 

-The disciples could not heal and one of the main reasons Jesus said was,

 

Mat_17:17  Jesus answered, "Faithless and perverse generation! How long will I be with you? How long will I bear with you? Bring him here to me."

Mat_17:18  Jesus rebuked him, the demon went out of him, and the boy was cured from that hour.

Mat_17:19  Then the disciples came to Jesus privately, and said, "Why weren't we able to cast it out?"

Mat_17:20  He said to them, "Because of your unbelief. For most assuredly I tell you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will tell this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.  

Mat_17:21  But this kind doesn't go out except by prayer and fasting."

 

Joh_9 – Non-Sinful Sickness

Joh_9:1  As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.

Joh_9:2  His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

Joh_9:3  Jesus answered, "Neither did this man sin, nor his parents; but, that the works of God might be revealed in him.  

Joh_9:4  I must work the works of him who sent me, while it is day. The night is coming, when no one can work.  

Joh_9:5  While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

Joh_9:6  When he had said this, he spat on the ground, made mud with the saliva, anointed the blind man's eyes with the mud,

Joh_9:7  and said to him, "Go, wash in the pool of Siloam" (which means "Sent"). So he went away, washed, and came back seeing.

 

 

Healing ToDos

 

“Asking you will receive” verses.

 

-Lookup the names of the people who weren t healed&

 

Sometimes God Lets you get sick so He can Heal you

&

Paul accidentally, spoke nasty of a leader.

Peters sat with the circumcision,

Paul said,  not that I have obtained This yet& but that I press on& 

They had imperfections and sometimes Paul could not heal

Paul left people sic in places, (He could have doubted, -He was not perfect at that time- or the guy could have had on forgiveness or doubt.)

 

 

 

 

Rachel Bucnis verses

         Romans_4:25, 1 Peter_2:24-25, Mark_16:15-18, James_1:6, Isaiah 53, James 5, Matthew_9:22 Matthew_9:29, Mark_10:52, and Luke_17:19 Luke_5:17, 20 Mark_11:22-24  Hebrews_13:8

Matthew_21:22  If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. Or what about Mark_11:22-24  Then Jesus said to the disciples,  Have faith in God&

 

Faith heals you

Luke_17:19  And Jesus said to the man,  Stand up and go. Your faith has made you well,

Matthew_9:29, Mark_10:52,

> Mat_9:22

 

> But we want to turn it into  god s will heals you

 

 

Luke_5:17, 20  power was there to heal

 

Chantell Verses

Isaiah_53:5, Matt_9:22, Psalms_147:3, Psalms_103:3, I Tim_4:14, Matt_10:1, Mark_3:15, John_12:40, Acts_4:30, Acts_28:27, Matt_14:36, Acts_14:9, James_5:15 & 16, I Cor_12:30, I Cor_12:9, 1 Pet 2: 24 & 25

 

 

BBS: aah: Athority: Snakes

8/10/13

 

The OT Promise To Crush

 

Gen_3:1

 

Psa_91:13 CAB  You shall tread on the asp and basilisk; and you shall trample on the lion and dragon.

>> read whole chapter

 

The NT Promise To Even Pick Up

>> Lion will lay down w lamb

 

 

Mar_16:17-18 CAB  And these signs shall accompany those who have believed: In My name they shall cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;  18  they shall pick up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it shall by no means hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall be well."

 

What about Snake Handlers?

- being presumptious

- do not test the lord yor God -- SEE PSA_91 Context!!!

- how hould we really apply the verse?

- should we assume that we are no going to die?

 

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Amo_5:19 CAB  As if a man should flee from the face of a lion, and a bear should meet him; and he should spring into his house, and lean his hands upon the wall, and a serpent should bite him.

 

 

Sir_12:13-14 Brenton  Who will pity a charmer that is bitten with a serpent, or any such as come nigh wild beasts?  14  So one that goeth to a sinner, and is defiled with him in his sins, who will pity?

 

Moses Picked Up Snake By The Tail

Exo_4:1-5 CAB  And Moses answered and said, If they do not believe me, and do not listen to my voice (for they will say, God has not appeared to you), what shall I say to them?  2  And the Lord said to him, What is this thing that is in your hand? And he said, A rod.  3  And He said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent, and Moses fled from it.  4  And the Lord said to Moses, Stretch forth your hand, and take hold of its tail (and he stretched forth his hand and took hold of the tail,  5  and it became a rod in his hand), that they may believe you, that the God of your fathers has appeared to you, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.

 

 

Exo_7:8-13 Brenton  And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying,  9  Now if Pharao should speak to you, saying, Give us a sign or a wonder, then shalt thou say to thy brother Aaron, Take thy rod and cast it upon the ground before Pharao, and before his servants, and it shall become a serpent.  10  And Moses and Aaron went in before Pharao, and before his servants, and they did so, as the Lord commanded them; and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharao, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.  11  But Pharao called together the wise men of Egypt, and the sorcerers, and the charmers also of the Egyptians did likewise with their sorceries.  12  And they cast down each his rod, and they became serpents, but the rod of Aaron swallowed up their rods.  13  and the heart of Pharao was hardened, and he hearkened not to them, as the Lord charged them.

Exo_7:8-13 Greek  Καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν καὶ Ααρων λέγων  9  Καὶ ἐὰν λαλήσῃ πρὸς ὑμᾶς Φαραω λέγων Δότε ἡμῖν σημεῖον ἢ τέρας, καὶ ἐρεῖς Ααρων τῷ ἀδελφῷ σου Λαβὲ τὴν ῥάβδον καὶ ῥῖψον αὐτὴν ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν ἐναντίον Φαραω καὶ ἐναντίον τῶν θεραπόντων αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἔσται δράκων.  10  εἰσῆλθεν δὲ Μωυσῆς καὶ Ααρων ἐναντίον Φαραω καὶ τῶν θεραπόντων αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐποίησαν οὕτως, καθάπερ ἐνετείλατο αὐτοῖς κύριος· καὶ ἔρριψεν Ααρων τὴν ῥάβδον ἐναντίον Φαραω καὶ ἐναντίον τῶν θεραπόντων αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐγένετο δράκων.  11  συνεκάλεσεν δὲ Φαραω τοὺς σοφιστὰς Αἰγύπτου καὶ τοὺς φαρμακούς, καὶ ἐποίησαν καὶ οἱ ἐπαοιδοὶ τῶν Αἰγυπτίων ταῖς φαρμακείαις αὐτῶν ὡσαύτως.  12  καὶ ἔρριψαν ἕκαστος τὴν ῥάβδον αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐγένοντο δράκοντες· καὶ κατέπιεν ἡ ῥάβδος ἡ Ααρων τὰς ἐκείνων ῥάβδους.  13  καὶ κατίσχυσεν ἡ καρδία Φαραω, καὶ οὐκ εἰσήκουσεν αὐτῶν, καθάπερ ἐλάλησεν αὐτοῖς κύριος.

 

Paul Accedentall Picks Up a Snake

 

 

Act_28:3-6 CAB  But when Paul had gathered a large bundle of sticks and put them on the fire, a viper having come out because of the heat, fastened on his hand.  4  And when the natives saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, "Certainly this man is a murderer, whom though he was rescued from the sea, justice does not permit to continue living."  5  Then, having shaken off the creature into the fire, he suffered nothing harmful.  6  And they were expecting him to be about to swell up or suddenly fall down dead. But after they had waited for a long time and observed nothing unusual happening to him, they changed their minds and said that he was a god.

 

 

Act_28:3-6 Greek  συστρέψαντος δὲ τοῦ Παύλου φρυγάνων πλῆθος καὶ ἐπιθέντος ἐπὶ τὴν πυράν, ἔχιδνα ἀπὸ τῆς θέρμης ἐξελθοῦσα καθῆψε τῆς χειρὸς αὐτοῦ.  4  ὡς δὲ εἶδον οἱ βάρβαροι κρεμάμενον τὸ θηρίον ἐκ τῆς χειρὸς αὐτοῦ, ἔλεγον πρὸς ἀλλήλους· πάντως φονεύς ἐστιν ὁ ἄνθρωπος οὗτος, ὃν διασωθέντα ἐκ τῆς θαλάσσης ἡ δίκη ζῆν οὐκ εἴασεν.  5  ὁ μὲν οὖν ἀποτινάξας τὸ θηρίον εἰς τὸ πῦρ ἔπαθεν κακὸν οὐδὲν·  6  οἱ δὲ προσεδόκων αὐτὸν μέλλειν πίμπρασθαι ἢ καταπίπτειν ἄφνω νεκρόν. ἐπὶ πολὺ δὲ αὐτῶν προσδοκώντων καὶ θεωρούντων μηδὲν ἄτοπον εἰς αὐτὸν γινόμενον, μεταβαλόμενοι ἔλεγον Θεόν αὐτὸν εἶναι.

 

What is the right thing to do if bitten by a snake?

Should you go to the hospital?

How to deal w them being arround/ not to fear them?

nakes/ snake season?

how to walk in athority?

 

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Verses for Dealing with Sickness (and Death)

>> get: you need doctors

>> Luke the doctor

>> sickness is not always about sin

Joh_: who sinned, this man or his parents?

Sin no more lets a worse thing come upon you

Jas_5: IF he has sinned

 

Sir_2: 5 NETS

because with fire gold is tested,

and acceptable people in the furnace of

humiliation.

[In sickness and in poverty have trust in

him.]

6

Have faith in him, and he will support you,

and make straight your ways, and hope in him.

 

Joh_11:3-4 CAB  Therefore the sisters sent to Him, saying, "Lord, behold, he whom You love is sick."  4  And when Jesus heard, He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it."

 

>> Does this imply that sickness that is unto death is not unto the glory of God??

 

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Docters, Medicine and Hospitals

3/18/13; 7/18/13; 8/10/13

 

>> add other refs from other previous compilations??

 

Luke the Doctor

 

drink a litte wine

 

leaves for the healing of the nations

 

 

Sir_38:1-15 Brenton  Honour a physician with the honour due unto him for the uses which ye may have of him: for the Lord hath created him.  2  For of the most High cometh healing, and he shall receive honour of the king.  3  The skill of the physician shall lift up his head: and in the sight of great men he shall be in admiration.  4  The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them.  5  Was not the water made sweet with wood, that the virtue thereof might be known?  6  And he hath given men skill, that he might be honoured in his marvellous works.  7  With such doth he heal men, and taketh away their pains.  8  Of such doth the apothecary make a confection; and of his works there is no end; and from him is peace over all the earth,  9  My son, in thy sickness be not negligent: but pray unto the Lord, and he will make thee whole.  10  Leave off from sin, and order thine hands aright, and cleanse thy heart from all wickedness.  11  Give a sweet savour, and a memorial of fine flour; and make a fat offering, as not being.  12  Then give place to the physician, for the Lord hath created him: let him not go from thee, for thou hast need of him.  13  There is a time when in their hands there is good success.  14  For they shall also pray unto the Lord, that he would prosper that, which they give for ease and remedy to prolong life.  15  He that sinneth before his Maker, let him fall into the hand of the physician. [Heb: will be defiant toward the physician]

 

 

Wis_16:10-12 Brenton  But thy sons not the very teeth of venomous dragons overcame: for thy mercy was ever by them, and healed them.  11  For they were pricked, that they should remember thy words; and were quickly saved, that not falling into deep forgetfulness, they might be continually mindful of thy goodness.  12  For it was neither herb, nor mollifying plaister, that restored them to health: but thy word, O Lord, which healeth all things.

 

Sir_6:16 Brenton  A faithful friend is the medicine of life; and they that fear the Lord shall find him.

 

Sir_10:10 Brenton  The physician cutteth off a long disease; and he that is to day a king to morrow shall die.

 

 

>> Add

 

Wait for Real Faith and Power

Other date(s) ~ Jul 2013; 8/14/13

 

1Co_5:4 CAB  in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

Luk_5:17 CAB  Now it happened on a certain day that He was teaching, and Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there, who had come out of every village of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.

 

Act_16:16

 

Rom_10:17

 

Rom_12:3

 

 

 

You can have faith while being sick:

- lazerous

- Job

- bent back woman?

 

What You Can and Can’t Automatically Freely Pray For

7/16/16

 

-- Under Construction --

 

Avoiding presumptive assumptive prayers that deserve to go unanswered

Avoiding the dead excuses of disobedient Baptists, Presbyterians, and dead Anabaptists who excuse themselves from feeling like failures. / needing any miracles

 

What do we know is God’s will?

What has God already expressed, and therefore, we do not need to thoroughly judge before praying for it?

 

Praying ‘if it be thy will’ for healing is like an Abraham saying to Sarah, ‘God said he was going to give us a baby, but I am not sure if it is His will to pray for it’

 

What has God communicated, and what has He left to each individual case?

What has He left variation on?

 

Pentecostal foolishness thinks they can freely pray for whatever their flesh jerks to feel like praying.

 

What to believe for in this life, and what to believe for even if you die…

 

Power Works

>>Scrip:

And there were many special miracles done by Paul / the hands of the apostles

 

Justice

Got to be flowing in a currently constantly revealed will.

 

Peter vs Annanias and Spophirah

Paul vs Didimos

The two witnesses

 

By default we do NOT get justice in this life.

It is a special excitement when God is so willing to show a preview of judgment and sanity and truth upon the earth.

 

Being Rescued from Persecution & Avoiding Martyrdom

 

>>Scrip:

Not my will but your will be done

 

Paul: ready to die… poured out as a drink offering

Peter: good to suffer if it is the will of God

Note: We do not know by default

Jesus: Peter is supposed to have his hand stretched out

 

But:

>>Scrip:

Door is opened to Peter, and they are surprised at the prayer mtg!

 

You would not / should never pray against greatness, martyrdom, and persecution that is God’s will.

Got to always listen for a contemporary Word to know how to pray.

Got to be listening to know what’s up for each occasion.

Pray by faith based on knowledge, not silly assumptions.

 

Being Rescued out of Natural Disaster / Sudden Death Tragedy

 

Job can happen to any of us

Vs.

Those 18 on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them

 

Think/example: Keith Green

 

What if the Righteous Die?

If it does happen, we know God was very serious to chastise.
We would hope that they made it as partly possible in 1Co
_11:

 

Moses died from striking the rock.

The two witnesses die before the return of Jesus. -- but hopefully by martyrdom and not particularly for their recent sin per se

 

 

Whatever you have Need of

 

Do you See what you need?

 

Not like a goofy Pentecostal that prays whatever their filthy/perverted soul feels.

 

Healing

And power was there to heal

 

>>Scrip:

If you are willing…I am willing

 

Same as salvation

 

Only non-willingness is because of unbelief.

 

>>Scrip:

According to your faith be it done

And it worked!

 

When to Be Healed

Right now

In this life

After being resurrected from the dead (either resurection)

Death is not the boundary

 

Job

Luk_16: – Lazarus

 

Child Bearing

 

Rachel

 

We have a covenant based on better promises…

 

Conclusion

We can watch for the patterns in the Bible to learn what God wants to do universally, and what is varied from case to case.

 

We can be firmly established in these basics so we can pray sanely according to the justice of faith that God has required of us.

 

Faith

>> but see: 2Co_10:15-16 – geographical, not individual

 

“Little Faith” Is Not The Problem, Meager Faith is!

We talked again about this question (corporately) 3/25/2012; writer B emailed these notes to me 4/5/2012; I added to this Bible study 4/6/12

It's possible for me to just put the bible reference in the chat by itself without the additional thoughts. Since the other girls weren't on the phone at the time I thought I would fill them in on what we talked about/the background. After that I explain why I'm thinking the reference is appropriate.

 

Recap of what we talked about 3/25/2012: We were talking about when Jesus used the word oligopiste, normally translated as “little faith.” You mentioned the fact that when Jesus says things like “Oh you of little faith” he isn’t rebuking for having a small-sized faith or a small amount of faith. We know this because he says you only need to have faith the size of a mustard seed for miracles to happen. You also mentioned that Jesus didn’t grant the disciples request of‘add to us faith (Luk_17:5-6)’ because the issue is really getting rid of any unbelief.

 

The man who brought His demon possessed son to be healed, said to Jesus “I believe, help my unbelief (Mar_9:24). The man seemed to have been aware that unbelief somewhere was hindering healing for his son to happen and Jesus affirms this when his disciples later asked why they weren’t able to cast out the demons. Jesus told them it was because of their unbelief and continues to tell them about having faith the size of a mustard seed and that that kind of demon comes out by pray and fasting (Mat_17:19-21).

 

The reference is Mat_14: 30-31 when Peter walks on water but begins to sink and Jesus says to him “Oh you of ‘little’ faith, why did you doubt?” When we were talking about these things I remembered what happened with Peter. He started to sink when saw the winds were strong and became afraid. It seems that things pertaining to faith were distracted by doubt/unbelief. He was able to step out on the water and walk initially (seems like he was believing) but soon after, the faith he had going on was interrupted by fear so this ‘little’ faith seems to support what you said about the phrase more referring to having short faith that corresponds more to a period of time than it does an amount based on size.

 

Another reference to support this is perhaps after Jesus calms the storm in Luke’s account. He says, “Where is your faith?” while other accounts note, “O you of‘little’ faith (Luk_8:25)”. We know the bible doesn’t contradict itself so I’m considering that these phrases aren’t far from each other in meaning.

 

A while back you talked to me about strongholds and you mentioned something along the lines ‘growing spiritually isn’t necessarily about ‘increasing” per se as much as the issue is getting rid of darkness/strongholds (very loosely quoted).’ Likewise, in perfecting faith, the issue doesn't seem to be increasing as much as getting rid of the unbelief that hinders the additions of moral excellencies/virtues, etc. Add to your faith….. (2Pet_5-7).

 

References that Help Understand Meager Faith

 

Sir_4:9 Brenton  Deliver him that suffereth wrong from the hand of the oppressor; and be not fainthearted when thou sittest in judgment.

 

Sir_4:9 Greek  ἐξελοῦ ἀδικούμενον ἐκ χειρὸς ἀδικοῦντος καὶ μὴ ὀλιγοψυχήσῃς ἐν τῷ κρίνειν σε.

 

 

How To Believe/ Do Faith

Original 2013-2014 title: Part Two – How To Believe/ Do Faith

 

Hebrews

12/8/13; 12/13/13; 12/15/13; 12/29/13; 1/2/14; 1/5/14; (other dates); 1/10/14-1/12/14; 1/19/14 (recompiled into AAH);

 

Review

Heb_1:3, etc. (Jesus = the standing under foundation)

Heb_3:6, etc. (Heb_3:9 - they percieved God's works, but did not remember them by faith)

Heb_3:12 - departing from living God

Heb_3:14 - hold down the standing under

 

 

Heb_10:24 onward...

 

Heb_10 – 11 – Promises/Firm Pronounced Messages

Heb_10:3κομισησθεG2865 V-AMS-2P  τηνG3588 T-ASF  επαγγελιανG1860 N-ASF

Heb_11:9 - Promised land

Heb_11:11 - Sara lead God's pronouncements to be faithful to her

Heb_11:13 - Did NOT receive promises... [μηG3361 PRT-N  λαβοντεςG2983 V-2AAP-NPM  ταςG3588 T-APF  επαγγελιαςG1860 N-APF]

Heb_11:17 - he (Abraham) who had received them [οG3588 T-NSM  ταςG3588 T-APF  επαγγελιαςG1860 N-APF  αναδεξαμενοςG324 V-ADP-NSM]

(Heb_11:19 – καὶ ἐν παραβολῇ ἐκομίσατο)

Heb_11:33 - DID Obtained them [επετυχονG2013 V-2AAI-3P  επαγγελιωνG1860 N-GPF]

Heb_11:39 - Did NOT receive promises... [ουκG3756 PRT-N  εκομισαντοG2865 V-AMI-3P  τηνG3588 T-ASF  επαγγελιανG1860 N-ASF]

 

 

Heb_11:5-6 < Gen_5:22-24

 

Heb_11:11 – Sarah's Leading into Faith

Heb_11:11-12

 

Heb_11:11 – Many Children

            Psa_128:1

            Eze_19:10-11, 14

            Tit_2:5

 

Heb_11:11 – Targums & Youth Renewal for Pregnancy

Targums have the idea of a woman being renewed as in the days of her youth...

 

"II. And Amram, a man of the tribe of Levi, went and returned to live in marriage with Jokeved his wife, whom he had put away on account of the decree of Pharoh. [JERUSALEM. And there went a man of the tribe of Levi and took Jokeved, who was beloved of him, (or, who was related to him,) to wife.] And she was the daughter of a hundred and thirty years when he returned to her; but a miracle was wrought in her, and she returned unto youth as she was, when in her minority she was called the daughter of Levi. And the woman conceived and bare a son at the end of six months"

(Pseudo-Jonathan on Exo_2:1, etc.)

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"...you shall be revived, and, behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a son."

(Pseudo-Jonathan on Gen_18, etc.)

 

"JERUSALEM. And He said, Returning I will return to thee at that time, to revive you, and, behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a male child."

"But Abraham and Sarah were old, they had mounted (alu) in days, and with Sarah the way of women had ceased. And Sarah wondered in her heart, saying After that I am old shall I have conceptions, and my lord Abraham is old? [JERUSALEM. And Sarah derided in her heart, saying, After that I am old, is it possible to return to the days of my youth, for me to have conception, and Abraham old?] And the Lord said to Abraham, Why hath Sarah so laughed, saying, Can it be in truth that I shall bear, being old? Is it possible to hide anything from before the Lord? At the gracious time I will return to thee, in the time when you shall be revived, and Sarah shall have a son. And Sarah denied and said, I wondered not; for she was afraid. And the Angel said, Fear not: yet in truth thou didst laugh."

"XXI. And the Lord remembered Sarah according to that which He had said to her; and the Lord wrought a miracle for Sarah like to that for which Abraham had spoken in prayer for Abimelek. [JERUSALEM. And the Lord wrought miracles for Sarah, as He had spoken.] And she conceived, and Sarah bare to Abraham a son..."

"And Sarah said, The Lord hath done wondrously for me; all who hear will wonder at me. And she said, How faithful was the messenger who announced to Abraham, and said, Sarah will nurse children, for she shall bring forth a son in her old age! [JERUSALEM. And she said, What was the announcement which announced to my lord Abraham at the beginning, and said, It will be that she will give suck, because she shall bring forth a son in her old age?]"

"Hearken unto all that Sarah saith to thee, because she is a prophetess; for in Izhak shall sons be called unto thee..."

 

Heb_11:11 – Sarah's Laughing & Faith

Gen_17:17 – Abraham Laughed

Gen_18:12-15 - we focus on her laughing, but Peter focuses on her calling Abraham "lord" (see below)

 

>> Review Gen_18 -- 20... (esp. how Sara had stopped being woman-ish)

 

>> maybe she laughed at first, but by the time she honored her husband (a few words later), God received her faith and repeated her righteousness as an example for us to imitate (or, at least it showed that she was in that righteous habit)

>> notice that God re-stated the promise after her laugh, and there is no more 'correction' given to sarah after that!

>> important principal: God does not do favorable miracles through doubting people, wether tha would be a "doubting Sarah", or a (temorarily) rebuked Zacharias... they have to come to faith before they can be favored.

>> since they ended up faithful, it is on you to carefully consider how they ended up that way

>> Carefully consider with fear and reverence, that they are of greater faith than you. If you get hung up on their relatively small issue that foolish you think you see, then your hypocrisy is your guilt.

>> by the time Sarah produced Isack (Gen_21:1-3) she had praise-worthy laughter (Gen_21:6-7/ MT: Psa_126:2) and was prophesying (Gen_21:9-11; Gal_4:30-31) so much so that GOD (and later Paul) agreed with Her (Gen_21:11-14) !!!!!

>> Sarah LEAD God into being faithful after her initial laughter, so you ought to imitate her

 

 

>> Do not say: "now that i understand i can agree with the NT" But instead insist that because I agreed w the NT first therefore I save my soul when reading the OT!!!!

>> The Bible is written in the context of those who OBEY IT!!! -- Therefore, as soon as you get in the posture of obying it, you pertain to understanding it, and eventually you might even teach it!

 

1Pe_3:6 CAB  as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, of whom you became children, when you do good and are not afraid of any terror.

1Pe_3:6 Greek  ὡς Σάρρα ὑπήκουσε τῷ ᾿Αβραάμ, κύριον αὐτὸν καλοῦσα· ἧς ἐγενήθητε τέκνα, ἀγαθοποιοῦσαι καὶ μὴ φοβούμεναι μηδεμίαν πτόησιν.

 

The Point: Sarah's Laughing is actually a repeated answer for how to read the Bible righteously:

 

Al

Sir you said we're so prone towards an "evil eye and despising"- yes, i think i probably used to think that Sarah laughed out loud (i.e. to say, I even forgot that Sarah laughed IN HER HEART). It's probable that i used to hold her accountable to an external action when she DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING SOCIALLY WRONG...wow
And also, I can see how she was encouraged to believe after the angel repeated himself; it seems that prophecy about things done in secret is really provocative =-D (Joh
_4:29 CAB Come, see a Man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Christ?"; 1Co_14:24-25 CAB But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an unlearned person comes in, he is reproved by all, he is discerned by all. 25 And so the secrets of his heart become clear; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God, reporting that God is truly among you!)

1/12/14

 

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V: [6:47:50 PM] Miranda: I understand that God made her regenerated into a 15 yr old again, but why if sarah was adequately covered could abimalech see what sarah looked like?? could he see her face and form in public?

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>> Gen_12: the toward-countenance is the issue, not her frame, nor even her exposed head!

>> Gen_12: at the beginning Sarai was taken by Pharaoh, but now that they are old, that kind thing had not happened in a long time

 

(1) Gen_12:11-20 – Abram, Sarai, and Pharaoh

(2) Gen_20:2-18 – Abraham, Sarah, and Abimelech

(3) Gen_26:6-11 – Isaac, Rebecca, and Abimelech

 

>> if you get rebuked by God, AT LEAST GOD IS TALKING TO YOU, as opposed to the foolish and mindless perverts who are not even corrected by God, and yet have the audacity to look down on those whom God Corrected! – God despises such, and would say: ‘You stay out of MY business and how I correct the people you ought to be imitating… My dealing with them are between Me and them, not YOU… all I told you to do was believe and obey them, not become emboldened because I rebuked them.’

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Comp. Luk_1:18-20 – Zachariah [corrected, then prophetic] vs. Luk_1:34-35 – Mary [praised]

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Gen_18 – Sarah in the Tent Behind Abraham

V: [5:48:47 PM] Miranda: I saw this last week: at home depot, a muslim man and his wife walking in the parking lot. She was walking directly behind him about 6 ft the whole way to the car. It was counter-culture because couples usually walk side by side and I noticed it.

 

Sarah Regenerated, Hagar Sent Away

V: [6:38:18 PM] Miranda: were men in the OT one flesh with all their wives?? or just the first

V: God done did better than botox and all kind of facial surgery

 

Side Note: Tamar & the Other Patriarchs were also Righteous

V

[2:33:19 PM] Miranda: since tamar and moses and abraham were righteous...and what they did was not sinful...then were they always without sin..at what point did they become righteous, were they born righteous.
diedre.walters

V: so they did sin sometimes, but the instances that we think are sin are not because the bible does not condemn them

V: [2:39:25 PM] Miranda: so they did sin sometimes, but the instances that we think are sin are not because the bible does not condemn them

V: [2:45:21 PM] Miranda: since david was righteous, then how did he sin?

V: [2:52:57 PM] Miranda: did tamar seduce judah and david eat the showbred knowing that they were doing right...or did they just do these things without thinking and were somehow overpowered by God

V

[3:01:08 PM] Miranda: so tamar was connected to God and she knew how to righteously solve her dilemma even though she may not have understood why she was to play a harlot
diedre.walters

[3:06:14 PM] Miranda: I haven't heard that before...so judah did owe her a child righteously?
[3:07:28 PM] Miranda: wow! this is great ...i never heard this before...now for the first time I understand why she was not sinning!
[3:10:20 PM] Miranda: it was super depressing for me when I was a kid to go to church hear how people that I thought I should be worshiping were sinning

V: [3:21:49 PM] Miranda: believe it or not..i never in my life heard that it was important to obey the bible, before you. when i first started hearing "obey the bible" it seemed strange.

V: I agree my lord you were the first person to actually tell me that

V: [3:55:45 PM] Miranda: since mary was great, if she was here, we would want to bow before her in honor, then is it wrong to bow before a statue of Mary like catholics do?

V: Al says Wis_14:12

V: [4:02:28 PM] Miranda: did they think they were worshipping God by the golden calf

V: [4:05:31 PM] Miranda: they didn't have the 10 commandments yet,so did they know to not worship the "bull" in place of God

V: Wis_13:17? "lifeless object"?

V: I had said oral tradition

 

No Idolatry

Avoiding the patriarchs does not mean it ok to make idols and bow down to them

 

Wis_13:17

Wis_14:12

 

1/13/14 Response

 

V: =)-K Hello to the wonderful proclaimer of truth. Thank you thank for being sooooo spiritual

V: my dazzling mommy said that your words yesterday made it easier for her to endure through her womanly issues yesterday.

V: by the end of the night she was standing up and happily praising you my lord

V: we were soooo impress with you justifying righteous Sarah

V: my lord you are the best lawyer I know. The day started out with the "evil eye/ American church" against Biblical Sarah. By the time you were done with your case, Righteous Sarah was carried out of the courtroom on the backs of the righteous as they praised and rejoiced over her righteousness. WOW Sarah is attractive indeed.

 

 

 

 

Heb_11:17-18 – Circumcision > Seed

Gen_17:10-12, etc.

 

 

the sons of Joseph

Gen_48:5-6, etc.

 

 

 

Heb_11:23 - A City Child?

 

Num_22:32

Exo_2:2

Act_7:20

 

handsome, LXX Jud_3:17 (of Eglon)

honourably, πράττων LXX 2Ma_12:43

 

 

"The Greeks used to call the opposite of asteíos, the urban person, the agroíkos, the one who comes from agrós (G68), field or countryside. Therefore, asteíos came to be assumed as one who is fair to look on and attractive, a suggestion of beauty but not generally of a high character."

(WS on G791)

 

hoped against hope... believed w out seeing

 

Heb_11:26 – Moses Loved 'the name Reproaches' of the Anointed One

 

Bible Researcher Tries to Explain Away Moses' Mystery Suffering

When interpretive translators fail to indicate viable alternatives in the margin, they sometimes cause serious difficulties for teachers, even for those who are well versed in Scripture. I once visited an adult Bible class being taught by a young seminary-trained pastor, in which one woman asked a question about Hebrews_11:26, which says that Moses counted “the reproach of Christ” (τὸν ὀνειδισμὸν τοῦ Χριστοῦ) greater riches than the treasures of Egypt. Unfortunately everyone there was using the NIV, which states that Moses “regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt,” and she wanted to know how a determination to suffer “for the sake of Christ” could be attributed to Moses (even before the ministry of the prophets), and why the Old Testament failed to mention this motive in its account of Moses. The pastor was caught flat-footed by this excellent question, and began to stumble. He looked at me hopefully, but I could give no help, because I had never heard such a statement being quoted as Scripture, and I had no better version of the Bible with me to jog my memory of the verse. If Hebrews_11:26 had been quoted in a more literal form, I might have explained “the reproach of Christ” in the way that I have always understood it; but I could not explain the NIV’s “disgrace for the sake of Christ.” As happens far too often in modern versions, the NIV here imposes a very questionable interpretation on the text, currently favored in some circles, without providing readers with a note giving the more literal rendering, or in any way indicating the more likely traditional interpretation of the phrase. 15 In its defense, one might argue that it is just possible to interpret the simple genitive construction in this way, if we suppose that the author was being somewhat lax in his style; but it cannot be said that the Greek genitive ever expresses “for the sake of.” For that, a prepositional phrase is required, like δια with the accusative. The simple genitive construction τὸν ὀνειδισμὸν τοῦ Χριστοῦ is here more naturally understood as “the same reproach that fell upon Christ,” and this meaning is not hard to discern from a literal rendering like “the reproach of Christ” in this context. The question raised by the woman in my friend’s Bible class would not have been raised if it were not for the “helpful” NIV rendering, which made the true sense of the phrase virtually inaccessible to the class; and it would not have been hard to answer if a less interpretive rendering were given in the margin.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/dynamic-equivalence.html

12/30/13

 

 

Heb_11:27 < --- > Exo_2:14-15 – MOSES (Not “Israel”) Forsook Egypt

What is It Saying?

- Not the Exodus: (A) Only says "Moses", not Israel, (B) King was not in anger at the Exodus, (C) Exodus is out of chronological order (whereas the whole passage is distinctly chronological).

 

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We Got to our Main Answer Last Time

- We are doing something terribly wrong when reading the Bible

- The fact that they are in the Bible obligates us to closely examine how they are righteous, and not reactionally look down on them (if we do that, then we cannot be trusted with sensitive/Holy spiritual things)

 

>> Yes, it's only human to be persuaded that Sarah's laughter is doubt for her whole legacy, but we are rebuked if we settle for that: See: Mere Men

 

Moses "Not Fearing"???

Heb_11:27 Moses "not fearing"???

>> Exo_2:14

Heb_11:32 – Samson Praised??

 

- this is the same thing done in Heb_11:11

- The un-deniable point: we are reading the Bible wrong, because we come up with different conclusions than the Bible does.

 

Al: Question: I thought we concluded from previous readings that even though Sarah laughed, she led her laughter into favorable joy; in the same way would it be wrong to conclude that Moses led his "fear" into faith like Sarah?

 

Al: Would this explanation for both paradox reactions happening to both people be a non-spiritual explanation?

 

Al: What would be incorrect for someone to say "Yes" to the question, "did Moses fear (negative)?' or did Moses have faith (positive)?"

 

--

 

>> Jas: LEAD it all into favorable joy...

 

- possibly: fearing temporarily, but then stopping fear before leaving

-- but in any case, we are assuming things that are just not stated, and are actually flat wrong/not true

 

 

NT Had More Info/ Scriptures than we Have

 

>> keep in mind that the Bible is actually a very brief summary of all the possible things to know about these events. We should be really reverent about what we think and say and teach.

 

- Moses: we should also consider that the NT has more info...

 

- Sometimes I wonder if they have more than us (such as Janas and Jambries mentioned in the preceding chapter in the -unOfficial- Targum of Pseudo-Jonathan)

 

Exo_2:11 WEB  It happened in those days, when Moses had grown up, that he went out to his brothers, and looked at their burdens. He saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew, one of his brothers.

Exo_2:11 CAB  And it came to pass in that length of time, that Moses, having grown, went out to his brothers, the sons of Israel. And having noticed their distress, he saw an Egyptian striking a certain Hebrew of his brothers, the children of Israel.

Exo_2:11 Greek  Ἐγένετο δὲ ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ταῖς πολλαῖς ἐκείναις μέγας γενόμενος Μωυσῆς ἐξήλθεν πρὸς τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ. κατανοήσας δὲ τὸν πόνον αὐτῶν ὁρᾷ ἄνθρωπον Αἰγύπτιον τύπτοντά τινα Εβραῖον τῶν ἑαυτοῦ ἀδελφῶν τῶν υἱῶν Ισραηλ·

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Act_7:23 CAB  Now when he had turned forty years old, it came into his heart to look upon his brothers, the sons of Israel.

Act_7:23 Greek  ῾Ως δὲ ἐπληροῦτο αὐτῷ τεσσερακονταετὴς χρόνος, ἀνέβη ἐπὶ τὴν καρδίαν αὐτοῦ ἐπισκέψασθαι τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ τοὺς υἱοὺς ᾿Ισραήλ.

 

Also: the Martyrdom in Heb_11:37

 

 

Why NOT Fearing is Morally Important

- like father like son/ like mother like daughter -- Biblical

 

 

 

Heb_11:37 – Wandered

MT: Gen_20:13

 

Heb_11:37 – Sawn in Two

Conversely, see the good predecessor: 2Sa_12:31; 1Ch_20:3; Psa_21:9, Amo_1:3

>> I hate them who hate you…

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2Sa_10:1-4; 1Sa_11:1-2

 

Will I be Standing Behind?

 

Heb_11:37 < =||= > Psa_23:1 / Luk_22:35 – sent out preaching…

 

Sounds like: “I will not in no way leave you; I will not in no way leave you behind”

vs: “my God why have you forsaken me”?

 

Joh_2:3  ...AndG2532 lackingG5302 wine

 

Hab_2:3 – wait for God’s prophecy

 

Irony of Wealth: Mat_19:20

 

1Co_1:7  …so thatG5620 youG1473 be notG3361 lackingG5302 inG1722 not oneG3367 favor…

 

Heb_12:15 – oversight is there to watch and make sure of this

 

Php_4:12 – I know how to come behind

 

 

 

1Co_4:8-13 CAB  You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us; and I wish that indeed you did reign, in order that we also might reign with you!  9  For I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last, as men appointed to death; for we became a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.  10  We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are despised!  11  Even unto this present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are naked, and beaten, and homeless.  12  And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure;  13  being defamed, we encourage; we have become as the sweepings of the world, the offscouring of all things until now.

1Co_4:8-13 Greek  ἤδη κεκορεσμένοι ἐστέ. ἤδη ἐπλουτήσατε, χωρὶς ἡμῶν ἐβασιλεύσατε· καὶ ὄφελόν γε ἐβασιλεύσατε, ἵνα καὶ ἡμεῖς ὑμῖν συμβασιλεύσωμεν.  9  δοκῶ γάρ ὅτι ὁ Θεὸς ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀποστόλους ἐσχάτους ἀπέδειξεν ὡς ἐπιθανατίους, ὅτι θέατρον ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ, καὶ ἀγγέλοις καὶ ἀνθρώποις.  10  ἡμεῖς μωροὶ διὰ Χριστόν, ὑμεῖς δὲ φρόνιμοι ἐν Χριστῷ· ἡμεῖς ἀσθενεῖς, ὑμεῖς δὲ ἰσχυροί· ὑμεῖς ἔνδοξοι, ἡμεῖς δὲ ἄτιμοι.  11  ἄχρι τῆς ἄρτι ὥρας καὶ πεινῶμεν καὶ διψῶμεν καὶ γυμνητεύομεν καὶ κολαφιζόμεθα καὶ ἀστατοῦμεν  12  καὶ κοπιῶμεν ἐργαζόμενοι ταῖς ἰδίαις χερσί· λοιδορούμενοι εὐλογοῦμεν, διωκόμενοι ἀνεχόμεθα,  13  δυσφημούμενοι παρακαλοῦμεν· ὡς περικαθάρματα τοῦ κόσμου ἐγενήθημεν, πάντων περίψημα ἕως ἄρτι.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Faith Bible Study

Faith bbs

9/16/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

 

Easy Miracles

2/21/17; 2/23/17

 

this applies to miracles, healing, spiritual warfare, and most every other spiritual and supernatural thing you may ever feel the pressured need to do.

 

People often feel the dread of insufficiency when they are in the position of rebuked and failing disciples, as though they are absolutely required to "create" something impossible with their faith.

but one answer to untie this impossible feeling of failure when it comes to faith is to realize that miracles are actually easy (it’s the other stuff like love that is crucifying).  And part of this resolving reality, in believing that it is easy, comes from obsessively worshiping over truth: when feeling the pressure to perform and produce an impossible miracle, you can remind yourself that any true miracle is easy because God only wants you to do what He has, in absolute and pure good truth, already provided for you to do.

if there is not power present to heal, then in truth, God is not wanting you to heal at this moment. If a true word or prayer comes for a miracle, then you know it is only because God has already provided and established it and made it to work easily. there is never any need to force your hyper faith to do anything in the impossible flesh.

 

> scrip

every good and perfect work that God wants you to do, He has already prepared beforehand that you should walk in it

and

it is not of him who wills or runs...

 

so the easiness of miracles is because you are not looking in your own soul for truth  (this is not Star Wars or other eastern philosophies)

you can lovingly throw out all fear, while trusting in God's predestination to back all the power and leverage of whatever He is willing to do through you.

btw: time pressure to perform are almost always deceptive and false requirements. you can always wait for favorable help from above if it is not there yet, especially if you have been living faithfully up unto that point.

 

>scrip

Prophet: get me a harp player --

truth is not on-demand, especially from false feelings that give you untrue time pressures.

 

 

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>> get other notes from Heb_11:, and other teaching we did on faith...

 

Faith is not "being sure" or "being convinced" of something

Faith is love in action.

Faith is moved bowels loving truth.

 

You can recognize faith because it contributes / [validates/proves] / makes deposits to a proclaimers emotional account, whereas fake faith makes withdrawls.

 

Faith does all the work of drawing the very best out of a spiritual person of substence.

 

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Faith Crashes

9/12/15; 10/13/15; 10/30/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

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10/13/15

Beware the degree of your faith crash...

·        Faith crash

·        Doubts

·        Scandle apostcy

 

The degree to which you add sin to your trual, when you are tempted to faith crash, is the degree to which you have to start over waiting...

Beware of your faith crash, because you could be wandering in the wilderness for 49 more years!

Think: Mirs bouts of scandle... Now we have to keep on starting over and waitng to see if someone is serious...

The way to win in a faith crash trial?:

Scrip: We had the sentence of death in ourselves...

Stop being prsuaded by death and start sprinting and hoping in the God who raises the dead!

 

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9/12/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

>> I think there were other (previous) notes that belong here!

 

The love is gone

    Not based on fact or reason, but pure abstract superstition in base things that are not even true...

    Feelings mean nothing... (morally speaking)

 

Tempted to faith crash:

We had thought that He was the one who would redeem Israel

 

 

 

Authority Everywhere you set your feet

9/27/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled);

 

Jos_1:3, etc.

 

>> this is already quoted in exclusivity in Words in this BBS:

Joh_5:30 CAB I can of My own self do nothing. Even as I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

 

 

Great Commission Passes On Authority

10/8/01* (Mon); 10/9/01 (For Tue); 6/20/02 (Word: [re]Created/Modified);

[*original title: Authority – Destroying 'woe as me' doctrines; this started as a Word Devour for 1st Assembly internship]

 

What we’ve all heard as church people

 

>> NIV > CAB

 

 

“find out what the Therefore is There for

 

JESUS Teaching

MT 7:28 When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, [29] because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law. (& Mk 1:22, & Lk 4:32)

MK 1:27 The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, "What is this? A new teaching--and with authority! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him."

 

The Authority of forgiveness

>> are these already quoted somewhere else??

>> Check before converting to CAB

 

LK 5:17 One day as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law, who had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem, were sitting there. And the power of the Lord was present for him to heal the sick. [18] Some men came carrying a paralytic on a mat and tried to take him into the house to lay him before Jesus. [19] When they could not find a way to do this because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and lowered him on his mat through the tiles into the middle of the crowd, right in front of Jesus.

 

MT 9:1 ... When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."    MT 9:3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, "This fellow is blaspheming!"   

 

MK 2:6 Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, [7] "Why does this fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?"

 

MT 9:4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? [5] Which is easier: to say, `Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, `Get up and walk'? [6] But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ." Then he said to the paralytic, "Get up, take your mat and go home." [7] And the man got up and went home. [8] When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men.

(This account=Mt 9:1, Mk 2:1, Lk 5:17)

 

 

-(MT 7:28) Authority distinguishes between Pharisee (Debunks woe as me)

-Used to think that JESUS did miracles because,  He was GOD ...

-He did not have access to anything more than we do -such as healing,... etc.-

 

Passed On

 All authority ... has been given to me -Says JESUS.  Therefore

MT 10:1 He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.  (72 others: Lk 10:1)   [Same heal sick stuff in G.C.]  Ü Pre-Great commission

MT 18:18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.  19 "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. [20] For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

LK 10:19 & I have given you the authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you&

LK 8:24 The disciples went and woke him, saying, "Master, Master, we're going to drown!" He got up and rebuked the wind and the raging waters; the storm subsided, and all was calm. [25] "Where is your faith?" he asked his disciples.  In fear and amazement they asked one another, "Who is this? He commands even the winds and the water, and they obey him."

MT 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [19] Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ...

 

So we have it! But not just that, we have greater:

JN 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. [13] And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. [14] You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

 

-Our Authority =  limited to what He did

-Does that make since and do we agree?-(But 4 some reason we no get it yet)

 

 

Jude/ Rebuke 

We know He ll judge some day but,  -DID JESUS Judge on Earth?

JESUS Judges:

MT 12:34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.

MT 23:29 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! ...

MT 23:33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

-How/Why DID JESUS Judge? (& John T. B.)

JN 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

JN 5:  Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. [27] And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

 

*This is dangerous material* -(I know from experience) Þ But no edit BIBLE

-We ve been saying  do what JESUS did -so judging...      -Still not convinced?...

Statistics: -139 ref. -55 in NT   -Looked up  Judge in Greek: 6 different word ref.s To "Judge" (KJV)

 

Judge Church

1CO_4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God....

1CO_5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife. [2] And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? [3] Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. [4] When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, [5] hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.  6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? [7] Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast--as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. [8] Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.  9 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-- [10] not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. [11] But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.  12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? [13] God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."   1CO_6:1 If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? [2] Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? [3] Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! [4] Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! [5] I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?                                            [6] But instead, one brother goes to law against another--and this in front of unbelievers!

 

Babies Judge

Yes,&   "Do not judge" verses: (Mt 7:1, Lk 6:37, Rom_2:1, 14:4, 14:10, 1Cor_4:3, Jas_4:12 )

 

Rebuke -- it’s a command

LEV_19:17 " `Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.

TIT_2:15 These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority.

PR 19:25 Flog a mocker, and the simple will learn prudence; rebuke a discerning man, and he will gain knowledge.

LK 17:1 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. [2] It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. [3] So watch yourselves.     "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. [4] If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, `I repent,' forgive him."

2TI_4:1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: [2] Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.

TIT 1: one of their own prophets has said, "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." [13] This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith

TIT_2:15 These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority.

 

 

[ Righteous strike me Ps 141:5]

 

1. -No hate people, and -No judge in heart, but -hate sin (Jud_1:23  Hating clothing )

2. Sin should disgust us (Hate false: Prov. 13:5, Hate what is evil Rom_12:9 )

3. Expose deeds of darkness (Eph_5:11)

 

 

Forgiveness Authority

Other dates (~ early 2001-2008?); 4/16/17

 

Get more quotes from:

https://www.gotquestions.org/confession-sin-priest.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/priesthood-believers.html

 

!!!!

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/one-mediator-between-god-and-men

 

 

Church people are wallowing in heresy, and even in quoting satan!

 

“The ability to forgive sins is God’s and His alone (Isa_43:25).”

https://www.gotquestions.org/confession-sin-priest.html

4/16/17

 

this directly contradicts Jesus’ example and teaching that He and His followers can forgive sins on earth.

This is a quote from the Pharisees which Jesus contradicted!

Notice the sly insertion of the word “alone” -- this is the same protestant heresy Luther did by inserting the contradicting word “alone” into Romans…

 

“The apostles never once in the New Testament acted as if they had the authority to forgive a person’s sin.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/confession-sin-priest.html

4/16/17

 

Even if they didn’t act like it, Jesus said it, and that settled the matter already!

But the heretical and blind statement that they never acted like they could forgive sins is absolute garbage.

 

Peter: you have no part in this service

Paul: whoevers sins you forgive, I forgive

 

That’s some authority folks!

 

 

 

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The Authority of Forgiveness

LK 5:17 One day as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law, who had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem, were sitting there. And the power of the Lord was present for him to heal the sick. [18] Some men came carrying a paralytic on a mat and tried to take him into the house to lay him before Jesus. [19] When they could not find a way to do this because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and lowered him on his mat through the tiles into the middle of the crowd, right in front of Jesus.

MT 9:1 ... When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."    MT 9:3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, "This fellow is blaspheming!"   

MK 2:6 Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, [7] "Why does this fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?"

MT 9:4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? [5] Which is easier: to say, `Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, `Get up and walk'? [6] But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ." Then he said to the paralytic, "Get up, take your mat and go home." [7] And the man got up and went home. [8] When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men.

(This account=Mt 9:1, Mk 2:1, Lk 5:17)

 

Jesus Posture

1. GOD had laid down all of his divine authority to take the form of man (He was not even considered good)

2. He had 'faith authority' on earth.

3. It was the religious, false teachers of the law who protested a man forgiving sin

4. heal someone = forgive sin (Just as easy).

5. The scripture dosn’t  say,  ...such authority to JESUS or  ...such authority to a God or  ...such authority to a man but it says,  ...such authority to men. [This means any who truly obey and believe!]

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Always Forgive Horizontal sin

MT 6:14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. [15] But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

LK 11:4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.

(Also see: Mt. 18:21-35, Mk 11:25, )

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Our Practice:        Clear Command:

JN 20:21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." [22] And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. [23] If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

- He s not talking about horizontal sin, but vertical sin.

 

2CO_2:10 If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven--if there was anything to forgive--I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, [11] in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.

 

 

*Warning* / Conclusion:

1.   Dangerous Þ Catholics (Priests exclusive forgiveness)

2.   PRIDE,...

3. -Failed  miracles - Forced faithism / hyper faith movement (oposit of woe as me)

(Ex. 1900 Pentecostal missionaries are disappointed the their tongues did not work on the mission field)

4.  As often as forgive, Heal some one

 

7 Sons:

AC 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." [14] Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. [15] One day the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" [16] Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding. 17 When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honor.

 

 

Extra thoughts

 

You say,  man cannot know a person s heart, only God can know that. - Oh a man can t?

 

Act_5:3-5 WEB  But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land?  4  While you kept it, didn't it remain your own? After it was sold, wasn't it in your power? How is it that you have conceived this thing in your heart? You haven't lied to men, but to God."  5  Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and died. Great fear came on all who heard these things.

 

Stephen the Deacon said,

Act_7:51 WEB  "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit! As your fathers did, so you do.

Also,

Act_8:20-23 WEB  But Peter said to him, "May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!  21  You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart isn't right before God.

[In other words, You are not Truly saved!!]

  22  Repent therefore of this, your wickedness, and ask God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.  23  For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bondage of iniquity."

Peter made the distinction that simon the sorceror had not the true faith of the heart,

Rom_10:9-10 WEB  that if you will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.  10  For with the heart, one believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

and thus Peter even declared Simon unsaved

(Also see 2Pet_2:14)

Here is a good test to know another s heart:

Jam_1:26 WEB  If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn't bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man's religion is worthless.

 

 

 

 

Does God know the heart?? - Yes of course&

Act_15:8-9 WEB  God, who knows the heart, testified about them,&

[and He does also testify to day about people s hearts& ]

giving them the Holy Spirit, just like he did to us.  9  He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

He does so now just as then, and has testified by saying about the Jews,

            This people s heart is callosed&

 

 

 

(Þ Actions show a person s heart)

 

What then about People knowing the heart of other people? To whom and when and why would He tell them?

Aside from obvious sinful things that give away a person&

Amo_3:7 WEB  Surely the Lord Yahweh will do nothing, Unless he reveals his secret to his servants the prophets.

 Because God knows the hearts of all men, he is also free to tell His prophets this information

 

And it s no wonder why He would tell so much to them because&

1Co_12:28 WEB  God has set some in the assembly: first apostles, second prophets&

 

 

 

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 MK 1:21 They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. [22] The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law.

 

-This is the difference between us and  teachers of the law or Pharisees.

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-The first scrip was the Great commission pre-stated which we fulfill today.

-We know that we are hers of His authority

-He did not have any more access to anything that we do -such as healing, forgiving,...ect. -

 

 

2CO_2:10 If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven--if there was anything to forgive--I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, [11] in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.

 

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MT 8:8 The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. [9] For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, `Go,' and he goes; and that one,`Come,' and he comes. I say to my servant, `Do this,' and he does it."

 

    MT 8:10 When Jesus heard this, he was astonished and said to those following him, "I tell you the truth, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. [11] I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. [12] But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

 

    MT 8:13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.  (LK 7:8)

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MT 10:1 He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

 

    MT 10:2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; [3] Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; [4] Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

 

    MT 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. [6] Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. [7] As you go, preach this message: `The kingdom of heaven is near.' [8] Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. [9] Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; [10] take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

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MK 1:21 They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. [22] The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law. [23] Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, [24] "What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are--the Holy One of God!"

 

    MK 1:25 "Be quiet!" said Jesus sternly. "Come out of him!" [26] The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.

 

    MK 1:27 The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, "What is this? A new teaching--and with authority! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him." [28] News about him spread quickly over the whole region of Galilee.

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JN 10:18] No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

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EPH_1:18 I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, [19] and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, [20] which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, [21] far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. [22] And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, [23] which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

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Judge Scrap:

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1CO_14:24] But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, [25] and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To An Old Friend -- To Jason Duenas

A Letter To Provoke you to  Keep The Authority

 

I'm writing this to you, having originally the desire to do so for a number of days, (and now months) to remind you to obey the very thing that I know that you have deeply cherished obeying. I rejoice because I first see that many do not have God's values in them, but then I see you as though these were cemented into your first Love and foundation, and if you forgot them you would know that you were forsaking your calling. I Love it! *The values that I m making reference to are the values that this letter addresses.*

     I've seen the way you re spirit reacts to various aspects of dead religion.   Life is submitting to those Godly reactions, and  death is creating new ones.

Specific Example:

Life-  I want to follow Jesus; I can t listen to this music anymore!

Death-  I m more spiritually mature now, and I see that there is nothing wrong with listening to some secular music.

-We can do the same things in any number of ways, as long as we forsake our original values for more complacent ones.  Now in this letter I m not talking about secular music, but the authority we have been given in Jesus.

 

I ve seen this  Life work in you.  Often, especially in particular cases, to you it will seem so spiritually unreasonable, impractical, undesirable, and foolish when you see those that preach compromising, weak, complacent types of error; and this comes as something obvious and natural to you (whereas it is not so for most people who desire, or claim to desire, to follow Jesus).

     No amount of false-hood and leaven would ever seem to even tempt you to let go of valuing the Truth of this verse:

 

 & having a form of godliness, but denying the power of it; even turn away from these, (2Ti_3:5 MKJV).

 

So would you rather give up the high calling you received only to settle for a powerless normal destiny dimmer than your beginning? -I think not!  So we must do everything to avoid denying the power of God. If we are going to be Godly in any form at all, then we must not do so in any way that denies the power of God.

 

I m writing to you about Truths of God s authority that I have already caught you holding as fundamental realities within your soul, and I m writing to you, exhorting you, that you never give them up. It s to late! I ve already seen them in you so you cannot change them now and get away with it. - Though I know your own inward cravings for the totality of God would beet me to you.

 

(I am writing the Truth to you), let s address this  Death.   It does infiltrate our midst, but how?
So then I ask this question: "What does the Bible say we are to do, and what do people say that we can't do?"

 

The words of doubt say:

"Only God knows that"

"...But that was Jesus, We can't do that!" 

"We can't judge that... we need to leave that in God's Hands"

"No body is perfect"

"Who can for give sins but God alone?" (A Pharisaic objection found in Lk 5:21)

 

But remember that the Bible does not preach doubt but faith, and the Words of faith say:

 

 & He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father, (Joh_14:12 MKJV).

[Interesting that they say that we can't be like Jesus, but Jesus Himself says we can. - and also that we can do more than He!]

 

"Be Perfect, just as your father in Heaven is perfect" (Mat_5:48)

 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul& (Act_4:32 EMTV).

[Also: Rom_12:16; 15:6; 2Cor_13:11; Phil_1:27; 2:2; 1Pet_3:8; I ve almost never seen it yet, but absolute agreement is possible!]

 

 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things, (1Jo_2:20 MKJV).

 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ, (1Co_2:16 MKJV).

 

[We cannot know some things as humans, but it says:]

 But God revealed [them] to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all [things], even the depths of God, (1Co_2:10 ALT).

 

 For this cause I bow my knees to the Father& 16  that He would grant you&   17  & that you&   18  may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth and length and depth and height,  19  and to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fullness of God, (Eph_3:14-21 MKJV).

[What an  impossible thing to say!]

 

 

 

I wish I knew it completely now, but in many ways I'm lacking. But the promise is given to us to know it completely, and this hope their leaven desires steel.

 

Now while the words of doubt say, "I can't, you can't, we can't, Do, judge, know, or say that" the words of faith say, "I can do all things threw Christ..." (Phil_4:13). Many church people will quote this verse, but I know of no church person who ever believes it!  I heard it all my life, but all my life met no one who believed it, because they continued saying, "Only God can know that!" They are as those who  make the cross of Christ of no effect, (1Cor_1:17) with their leaven.

      The Authority of Christ,  Completely Knowing Him, and  Doing Greater Works than Jesus, are our promises to cling to, But the words of doubt and leaven are to be disdained because they would rob us of these promises. They are false and dirty. I am confident that they are plainly disgusting to you, because in the core of your very being and Love for Jesus, these types of words are clearly foreign. You know it and can't escape from it, and may it stay that way.

     Who would ever want to serve such a religion that was pathetic, powerless, and, Promise-less.  Such compromisers and perverters want to steal the promises of God, that allow us to have faith, as they have done to so many, (myself once included) that we may have the same useless religion that they have.  They would to undermine and avoid the call of God and its challenge to go all the way with this thing. Are we going to really hope and believe God to obtain the perfection and fullness? Can we obey Him and "Be perfect" or was Jesus just joking?

     Now cancer cells beget more cancer cells, not by reproduction as humans do, but by the conversion of healthy cells. So also, not all who say these things are unregenerate, but rather these saying are pollutions of cancerous cells attempting to reproduce themselves by polluting healthy believers.  A little leaven does leaven the whole lump, and it wills to bring a total conversion of cancer if one will let it.  Do you see how a little saying is not little?  The purpose is for cancer.

     They enjoy their complacent leavened laziness of empty meaningless routine and social exercise, and they don t want anyone to suggest that they should leave their spiritual lazy-boy recliner and be something more than fleshly bloated balls of disgusting cancer.  Anything that stimulates that inborn conscious and alarm system informing all that there is an emergency in the spiritual realm, they will attempt to squelch saying,  Don t interrupt my monotonous religious ceremony because I ve become comfortable with it and do not want to leave it for anything including reality, life, and salvation.

     I set my face to be a man of faith, but in the mean time I m looking toward this goal.  In this I must ask myself, "Is the comfortable unchallenged complacency that I can have by simply excusing myself from believing Him, worth more than the stretching and the reaching in the hope of obtaining the promises of God?"

     The American church sure affords me many convincing arguments to soothe my soul away from ever having to worry about all of those "hard-core" things.  What do you think Jason? Should I just go with it? No one else seems to be bothering themselves with questioning their walk to see if they are really getting a hold of the higher things of God. They come to church every Sunday and they look to be doing OK, and worry free.

     But I am confident that you will know that these dead ways are not an option, nor worth wasting the time to consider. But didn't satan tempt Jesus with relinquishing His authority? "& All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me, (Mat_4:9 MKJV)" He will also temp you and me.

     What I m saying is this: that complacent church-going christianity, though it reeks with the stench of complacent deadness, does not arrive at its state without first embracing things that do not initially appear to be dangerous.  One may see a church that lacks ambition and life and is thus considered  dead, but I see a church that has lied to its self beforehand and said,  Only God can know that. - I ve been at these churches. I ve had this life in various churches so far to know where these things come from.  It may appear harmless or even true, but with its slight it has killed many.  For if such churches had but taken the antidote to start with, they would be alive today.

     It looks like I have now gone off the deep end and am not  being balanced.   I m telling you the Truth both because I m writing you True things and because I have seen it, and lived in it the majority of my growing up life.  If what I m saying sounds ridiculous please listen closer. 

     *Not that one saying undermines the entirety of our faith when we error,* but that anything that takes away from what God told us to keep in the same amount subverts our authority over sin and the devil. Remember what is said of the angels:

 

 And angels, the ones not having kept their own domain746, _but_ having left their own habitation, He has kept under darkness in everlasting chains for [the] judgment of [the] great Day, (Jud_1:6 ALT).

 

 Domain746 meaning,  place or rank& power, principality& rule. (Strong s)

And in the same way, for the same purpose, the devil tempted them in the garden:

For first God said to Adam and Eve,

 

 & replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth, (Gen_1:28 KJV).

 

But then the devil tempted them saying  You will be as God&  (Gen_3:5) just as he himself fell into sin, to produce the same effect of leaving and loosing authority (as in Jud_1:6 above). In this way he tempted Jesus, and does now tempt us. Though it looks different most every time, it is for the same purpose.

We know that Scripture says to the devil,

 

 For you have said in your heart, I will go up to the heavens, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God& (Isa_14:13 MKJV).

 

I hope that you can clearly see the correlation here between the devil s sin and the sin he tempts us with:

 

1. The devil wanted to be as God and left authority to try to do so. 2. The devil tempted Adam and Eve with the same thing. 3. The Devil tempted Jesus the same way and, 4. The devil now also tempts us with the same things, that we may abandon the authority God has given us.

ð Leaving the authority that God has appointed us unto is a serious and dangerous offense.

 

I ll try not to chock you with details but&

1.  The devil left the authority that God had given Him to rebel and be as God, or specifically, to  exalt himself above the stars of God, (see Isa_14:13).  We know this to be true because the angels who rebelled were being lead by satan.  It says, concerning the fallen angels, that the devil (or  dragon ) with  & his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth& (Rev_12:4 KJV).

     They had to have fallen the same way he did because he was leading them!  And the result is abandonment of authority in an attempt to rebel (Jud_1:6) and be as God. The only difference may be that the devil more-so wanted to be above God, left more authority, and will so be punished more-so than those who followed him.  Either way, as the devil lead a third of the angels in rebellion only to fall to the earth, (Rev_6:13; 12:4, 7-9, 12-13; Lk 10:18), and humans to fall from their authority, so also will he be for those (angels and people) who are condemned to Hell:

 

 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever, (Rev_20:10 KJV).

 

 Then He also shall say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels, (Mat_25:41 MKJV).

 

(Also see Isa. 14:12-16; Jn 12:31)

 

[· By the way  stars, particularly in Revelation, always seems to mean  Angels : Rev. 1:16, *20; 2:1; 3:1; 6:13; 8:10, 11, 12; 9:1; 12:1, 4. · The  casting down of the devil may indeed be more than one occasion of defeat, but evidently  history repeats its self in this manner for the devil]

 

2.  The devil tempted Adam and Eve to abandon their authority to foolishly attempt to be as God (Gen_1:28; 3:5).  May I point out that they were supposed to be,  subduing, and  having dominion,  & over every living thing that moveth upon the earth, (Gen_1:28 KJV)? And by letting the serpent [something that  moveth upon the earth ] manipulate them, they were abandoning their place of authority that God had commanded them to maintain.  This scenario was a perversion, just as it is a perversion when children manipulate their parents and control them.  In this, the God-ordained authority is undermined! 

 

2  A bishop then must be blameless& 4  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;  5  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (1Ti_3:2 & 4 KJV)

 

The serpent was  a living thing that moved upon the earth, (though it was the devil), that they were not maintaining dominion over.  So we see that the devil successfully tempted them to fall the same way he did: In rebellion, away from authority, with the pride of wanting to be God.

      We should be confident that they did indeed loose their authority: A. because most animals today do not obey humans, and, B. because Jesus came as the second Adam (1 Cor. 15:45-47) to restore the authority that the first lost.  For why does He need to say,  & I give unto you the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you, (Luk_10:19 KJVB) unless they were previously without it?  May I also point out that  serpents and scorpions (though now specifically representing demons) are things that  move upon the earth ?

     We have already said that Adam was supposed to have walked in authority over all the animals that moved upon the earth, whether one happened to be demon-possessed or not.  Adam and Eve gave into the manipulation of the devil, and gave up what they were commanded to keep, and so all his seed lost this authority until the second Adam. 

     I tell you all these things that the Bible says, including the authority over animals, as one who has experienced and seen with his own eyes these very promises at work miraculously!  (Myself not being the first or only one to participate, yet as one who has participated indeed).  This is why I tell you with all the more confidence:  The Words of Doubt as I have described to you, which are among us now, where we both go to church, they are opposed to the Words of promise from God.  They do not deserve any space, not even a little bit, in our life and doctrine.  Whatever  understanding we may care to develop, let these words be excommunicated from it.

 

It also says

 

 

 

 

 

 & He gave them authority over unclean spirits, so as to cast out&  (Mat_10:1 LITV)

 

 

 

 

If by writing all of this I can somehow exhort you to never give into the words of doubt saying,

 

"Only God knows that"

"...But that was Jesus, We can't do that!" 

"We can't judge that... we need to leave that in God's Hands"

"No body is perfect"

"Who can for give sins but God alone?" (The Pharisees in Lk 5:21)

 

If only I can remind you of that which you have already been called to, and have enjoyed believing, then you will perfectly shun the oppositions.  Even if I have brought up Bible verses in a way that you had not though of before, I have not brought up to you something new that you have not already known to obey By The Spirit.  I have not  given you a command that you have not already received, and I have not exhorted you in a way that you have not already understood, as it may be, in your spirit by The Spirit.  I only now put into words that which you have already known, but perhaps not in so many expounded words and specifics.

 

     Remember to be awake and watchful because anything that takes away from God's authority given to His followers is a cancerous perversion.  You will not except them in large quantities that are obvious, and may you never except them in smaller quantities that are subtle!

 

A Riddle

 

Now I also want to exhort you with a riddle concerning other spiritual things with similar needs.

     First, I give you a riddle, which is partly a mystery, because of this principal of Truth: There is no point explaining to your flesh what has not been revealed to your spirit.  So in light of this let me give you the  riddle :

 

You should be careful to do only those things that are of the simplicity and innocents of faith.  Any thing beyond this is not innocent.

 

     After a baby is born and taken home, will you then switch his birth certificate with another newborn s certificate?  It would make no sense to do such a thing!  So also even when I am writing this riddle to you, if I were writing it to your flesh I would have given you  3 Steps To maintaining Innocent Faith, but because I am writing to you about spiritual things, it is necessarily (by nature) mysterious and hard to understand.  I hope that you will appreciate that I am unwilling to give you things of flesh that will not truly benefit you.

     If you get it, then you get it, and if you don t, you don t. But I pray that you would be edified and hear what you need to hear.

     If you were in charge of a team where the goal was to climb a mountain, you would not take the one who was a trained marine and make them to be the group  waiter, wile you set a professional basket-weaver over them to climb the mountain!  So also the Bible says,  Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called, (1Co_7:20 KJV). And though this has a fleshly aspect to it, I would appeal to the spiritual aspect in this case, that we would only put ourselves in the place where God has called us, and do according to the actions that have been put inside us.

 

 

May Jesus be with you and give you life and wisdom to manage that which is under your care.

-Josiahs

 

 

 

 

AAH Additions

 

 

 

 

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Dad’s Story of Wishing for Healing

‘the word of god says to lay hands on the sick and they will recover.  I believe it is the will of god for me to recover…  I have laid hands on myself and asked people to pray for me…’

1/2/19 10:30 AM

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Job

2/2/18

 

Deu_28:35 WEB  Yahweh will strike you in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore boil, of which you can not be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.

Deu_28:35 The Lord shall strike you with an evil sore, on the knees and the legs, so that you shall not be able to be healed from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.

Deu_28:35  πατάξαι σε κύριος ἐν ἕλκει πονηρῷ ἐπὶ τὰ γόνατα καὶ ἐπὶ τὰς κνήμας ὥστε μὴ δύνασθαί σε ἰαθῆναι ἀπὸ ἴχνους τῶν ποδῶν σου ἕως τῆς κορυφῆς σου.

 

>> compare this with Job!

 

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thorn in the flesh

7/13/17

2Co_12:7 – Some people insanely insert the thorn in the flesh

 

Num_33:55 WEB  But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then those you let remain of them will be as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will harass you in the land in which you dwell.

Num_33:55 But if you will not destroy the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come to pass that whomsoever of them you shall leave shall be thorns in your eyes, and darts in your sides, and they shall be enemies to you on the land on which you shall dwell;

Num_33:55  ἐὰν δὲ μὴ ἀπολέσητε τοὺς κατοικοῦντας ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἀπὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν, καὶ ἔσται οὓς ἐὰν καταλίπητε ἐξ αὐτῶν, σκόλοπες ἐν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ὑμῶν καὶ βολίδες ἐν ταῖς πλευραῖς ὑμῶν καὶ ἐχθρεύσουσιν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, ἐφ᾿ ἣν ὑμεῖς κατοικήσετε,

 

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Exo_23:24 WEB  You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor follow their practices, but you shall utterly overthrow them and demolish their pillars.

Exo_23:24 LB You shall not worship their gods, nor serve them. You shall not do according to their works, but you shall utterly destroy them, and break to pieces their pillars.

Exo_23:24  οὐ προσκυνήσεις τοῖς θεοῖς αὐτῶν οὐδὲ μὴ λατρεύσῃς αὐτοῖς· οὐ ποιήσεις κατὰ τὰ ἔργα αὐτῶν, ἀλλὰ καθαιρέσει καθελεῖς καὶ συντρίβων συντρίψεις τὰς στήλας αὐτῶν.

Exo_23:25 WEB  You shall serve Yahweh your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from your midst.

Exo_23:25 And you shall serve the Lord your God, and I will bless your bread and your wine and your water, and I will turn away sickness from you.

Exo_23:25  καὶ λατρεύσεις κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ σου, καὶ εὐλογήσω τὸν ἄρτον σου καὶ τὸν οἶνόν σου καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ σου καὶ ἀποστρέψω μαλακίαν ἀφ᾿ ὑμῶν.

Exo_23:26 WEB  No one will miscarry or be barren in your land. I will fulfill the number of your days.

Exo_23:26 There shall not be one that is impotent or barren on your land. I will surely fulfill the number of your days.

Exo_23:26  οὐκ ἔσται ἄγονος οὐδὲ στεῖρα ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς σου· τὸν ἀριθμὸν τῶν ἡμερῶν σου ἀναπληρώσω.

 

Heb_8:6 -- better promises

Heb_8:6  CAB  But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted upon better promises [ἥτις ἐπὶ κρείττοσιν ἐπαγγελίαις νενομοθέτηται].

Heb_8:6  Aνυνι TSBνυνι δε διαφορωτερας BAτετυχεν TSτετευχεν λειτουργιας οσω και κρειττονος εστιν διαθηκης μεσιτης ητις επι κρειττοσιν επαγγελιαις νενομοθετηται

Heb_8:6  νυνὶ δὲ διαφορωτέρας τέτευχε λειτουργίας, ὅσῳ καὶ κρείττονός ἐστι διαθήκης μεσίτης, ἥτις ἐπὶ κρείττοσιν ἐπαγγελίαις νενομοθέτηται.

 

 

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Exo_15:23 WEB  When they came to Marah, they couldn't drink from the waters of Marah, for they were bitter. Therefore its name was called Marah.

Exo_15:23 CAB  And they came to Marah, and they could not drink the water of Marah, for it was bitter; therefore he named the name of that place, Bitterness.

Exo_15:23  ἦλθον δὲ εἰς Μερρα καὶ οὐκ ἠδύναντο πιεῖν ἐκ Μερρας, πικρὸν γὰρ ἦν· διὰ τοῦτο ἐπωνομάσθη τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ τόπου ἐκείνου Πικρία.

Exo_15:24 The people murmured against Moses, saying, "What shall we drink?"

Exo_15:24 And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink?

Exo_15:24  καὶ διεγόγγυζεν ὁ λαὸς ἐπὶ Μωυσῆν λέγοντες Τί πιόμεθα;

Exo_15:25 Then he cried to Yahweh. Yahweh showed him a tree, and he threw it into the waters, and the waters were made sweet. There he made a statute and an ordinance for them, and there he tested them;

Exo_15:25 And Moses cried to the Lord, and the Lord showed him a tree, and he cast it into the water, and the water was sweetened. There He established to him ordinances and judgments, and there He proved him,

Exo_15:25  ἐβόησεν δὲ Μωυσῆς πρὸς κύριον· καὶ ἔδειξεν αὐτῷ κύριος ξύλον, καὶ ἐνέβαλεν αὐτὸ εἰς τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ ἐγλυκάνθη τὸ ὕδωρ. ἐκεῖ ἔθετο αὐτῷ δικαιώματα καὶ κρίσεις καὶ ἐκεῖ ἐπείρασεν αὐτὸν

Exo_15:26 and he said, "If you will diligently listen to the voice of Yahweh your God, and will do that which is right in his eyes, and will pay attention to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you, which I have put on the Egyptians; for I am Yahweh who heals you."

Exo_15:26 and said, If you will indeed hear the voice of the Lord your God, and do the things pleasing before Him, and will heed His commands, and keep all His ordinances, no disease which I have brought upon the Egyptians will I bring upon you, for I am the Lord your God that heals you.

Exo_15:26  καὶ εἶπεν Ἐὰν ἀκοῇ ἀκούσῃς τῆς φωνῆς κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου καὶ τὰ ἀρεστὰ ἐναντίον αὐτοῦ ποιήσῃς καὶ ἐνωτίσῃ ταῖς ἐντολαῖς αὐτοῦ καὶ φυλάξῃς πάντα τὰ δικαιώματα αὐτοῦ, πᾶσαν νόσον, ἣν ἐπήγαγον τοῖς Αἰγυπτίοις, οὐκ ἐπάξω ἐπὶ σέ· ἐγὼ γάρ εἰμι κύριος ὁ ἰώμενός σε.

>> Sync: Dis | aah

 

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Death is not a boundary for failed healing

7/3/16

Lazarus was the pre-resurrection healing

This is not a cop out, even if the ultimate resurrection ultimately raises someone from the dead

Jesus will get what He paid for, especially among the righteous.

 

Also: How it Does and does not matter how long someone has been dead

>> get/merge the other case where I discussed this

 

Jesus rose Lazarus, but did not raise

 

Note: martyrdom is way different than sickness, but we have no known report that Joseph, Jesus’ adopted father, was martyred…

 

 

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Prayer of Faith/ Healing

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

Fig Tree

Mar_11:7-26

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Mat_21:22; Luk_11:9-13, Luk_18:1-8; Joh_14:13, Joh_15:7; Joh_16:23-27; Jam_1:5, Jam_1:6, Jam_5:15-18; 1Jo_3:22, 1Jo_5:14, 1Jo_5:15

 

Medicine can also be Appropriate

Col_4:14 - Luke the doctor

1Ti_5:23 - Use wine for stomach

 

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5/24/16; 5/25/16

 

 

Gen_47:29 KJV+  And the timeH3117 drew nighH7126 that IsraelH3478 must die:H4191 and he calledH7121 his sonH1121 Joseph,H3130 and saidH559 unto him, IfH518 nowH4994 I have foundH4672 graceH2580 in thy sight,H5869 put,H7760 I pray thee,H4994 thy handH3027 underH8478 my thigh,H3409 and dealH6213 kindlyH2617 and trulyH571 withH5973 me; buryH6912 me not,H408 I pray thee,H4994 in Egypt:H4714

Gen_47:29 LB And the days of Israel drew near for him to die. And he called his son Joseph, and said to him, “If I have found favor before you, put your hand under my thigh, and you shall execute mercy and truth toward me, so as not to bury me in Egypt.

Gen_47:29  ἤγγισαν δὲ αἱ ἡμέραι Ισραηλ τοῦ ἀποθανεῖν, καὶ ἐκάλεσεν τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ Ιωσηφ καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Εἰ εὕρηκα χάριν ἐναντίον σου, ὑπόθες τὴν χεῖρά σου ὑπὸ τὸν μηρόν μου καὶ ποιήσεις ἐπ᾿ ἐμὲ ἐλεημοσύνην καὶ ἀλήθειαν τοῦ μή με θάψαι ἐν Αἰγύπτῳ,

 

 

Gen_48:1 WEB It happened after these things, that someone said to Joseph, "Behold, your father is sickH2470." He took with him his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim.

Gen_48:1 CAB And it came to pass after these things, that it was reported to Joseph, Behold, your father is illG1776 [ἐνοχλεῖται]. And having taken his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, he came to Jacob.

Gen_48:1  Ἐγένετο δὲ μετὰ τὰ ῥήματα ταῦτα καὶ ἀπηγγέλη τῷ Ιωσηφ ὅτι Ὁ πατήρ σου ἐνοχλεῖται. καὶ ἀναλαβὼν τοὺς δύο υἱοὺς αὐτοῦ, τὸν Μανασση καὶ τὸν Εφραιμ, ἦλθεν πρὸς Ιακωβ.

 

Heb_11:21 LB By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of the sons of Joseph, and worshipped, leaning on the top of his staff.

Heb_11:21  πιστει ιακωβ αποθνησκων εκαστον των υιων ιωσηφ ευλογησεν και προσεκυνησεν επι το ακρον της ραβδου αυτου

 

 

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>>Scrip:

All authority has been given to me…

Rebuke with all authority…

It is the Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom…

 

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Death Does Not End God’s Willingness to Heal

4/3/16

 

Disclaimer: There Are Additional complications If a Person Dies to the Point that their Spirit Leaves the Sceen

>> comp: Paul saying, don’t worry. His spirit is still here…

>> wasn’t Lazarous’ spirit departed?

>>Scrip: and her spirit returned to her

>> David: I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me…

 

Death does not change God’s willingness or intention to heal, although it seems to typically affect our courage to keep believing for healing.

 

Death does not mark the boundary or failure to see someone healed.

 

If we are waiting to see someone healed, and they die in the meantime, who’s to say that they are not a Job just waiting to be raised from the dead?

 

We REALLY need to fix our theology so we can move forward in vary practical needs without having crazy assumptions that are just not even half-way orthodox.

 

This is the whole point of Jesus raising people from the dead…

 

>>Scrip:

Do not fear, only believe.

 

But then one might say that raising this girl is different from cases where someone has been dead for a prolonged number of days.

 

If so, I would ask, how many days does someone have to be dead before we know that our doubt has defeated us beyond believing for their healing and resurrection?

 

Lazarus was dead several days, and he was still raised up.

 

And if I say that this many days means that it could be God’s will to heal, but if it passes some other number of days, then we have lost and failed God’s faith to heal, then how is this not subjective and relative and non-absolute and not really inspired or Biblical?

 

But on the contrary…

 

Eze_37:3 WEB He said to me, Son of man, can these bones live? I answered, Lord Yahweh, you know.

Eze_37:3 CAB And He said to me, Son of man, will these bones live? And I said, O Lord God, only You know this!

Eze_37:3  καὶ εἶπεν πρός με Υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, εἰ ζήσεται τὰ ὀστᾶ ταῦτα; καὶ εἶπα Κύριε, σὺ ἐπίστῃ ταῦτα.

Eze_37:4 Again he said to me, Prophesy over these bones, and tell them, you dry bones, hear the word of Yahweh.

Eze_37:4 And He said to me, Prophesy upon these bones, and you shall say to them, You dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.

Eze_37:4  καὶ εἶπεν πρός με Προφήτευσον ἐπὶ τὰ ὀστᾶ ταῦτα καὶ ἐρεῖς αὐτοῖς Τὰ ὀστᾶ τὰ ξηρά, ἀκούσατε λόγον κυρίου

Eze_37:5 Thus says the Lord Yahweh to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.

Eze_37:5 Thus says the Lord to these bones: Behold, I will bring upon you the breath of life;

Eze_37:5  Τάδε λέγει κύριος τοῖς ὀστέοις τούτοις Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ φέρω εἰς ὑμᾶς πνεῦμα ζωῆς

 

We are severely confused theologically.

 

For some reason we really do feel like death is the boundary between where we can believe for someone to be healed, and where we have failed and can no longer heal them.

 

The reason we feel like we are in a race with death to believe for healing is usually more about our own courage levels and fear and doubt than it is about the Bible or faith saying we have been defeated if we are ever overtaken by death.

 

>>Scrip:

Elisha’s bones raised people from the dead!

 

Although we are not told how Elisha died, in any case, he can hardly be called a looser to death, especially when it comes to healing!

 

And what if I died and was waiting for

 

WEB-CAB

Eze_37:1 WEB The hand of Yahweh was on me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of Yahweh, and set me down in the midst of the valley; and it was full of bones.

Eze_37:1 CAB And the hand of the Lord came upon me, and the Lord brought me forth by the Spirit, and set me in the midst of the plain, and it was full of human bones.

Eze_37:1  Καὶ ἐγένετο ἐπ᾿ ἐμὲ χεὶρ κυρίου, καὶ ἐξήγαγέν με ἐν πνεύματι κύριος καὶ ἔθηκέν με ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ πεδίου, καὶ τοῦτο ἦν μεστὸν ὀστέων ἀνθρωπίνων·

Eze_37:2 He caused me to pass by them all around: and behold, there were very many in the open valley; and behold, they were very dry.

Eze_37:2 And He led me round about them every way. And behold, there were very many on the face of the plain, and very dry.

Eze_37:2  καὶ περιήγαγέν με ἐπ᾿ αὐτὰ κυκλόθεν κύκλῳ, καὶ ἰδοὺ πολλὰ σφόδρα ἐπὶ προσώπου τοῦ πεδίου, ξηρὰ σφόδρα.

Eze_37:3 He said to me, Son of man, can these bones live? I answered, Lord Yahweh, you know.

Eze_37:3 And He said to me, Son of man, will these bones live? And I said, O Lord God, only You know this!

Eze_37:3  καὶ εἶπεν πρός με Υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, εἰ ζήσεται τὰ ὀστᾶ ταῦτα; καὶ εἶπα Κύριε, σὺ ἐπίστῃ ταῦτα.

Eze_37:4 Again he said to me, Prophesy over these bones, and tell them, you dry bones, hear the word of Yahweh.

Eze_37:4 And He said to me, Prophesy upon these bones, and you shall say to them, You dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.

Eze_37:4  καὶ εἶπεν πρός με Προφήτευσον ἐπὶ τὰ ὀστᾶ ταῦτα καὶ ἐρεῖς αὐτοῖς Τὰ ὀστᾶ τὰ ξηρά, ἀκούσατε λόγον κυρίου

Eze_37:5 Thus says the Lord Yahweh to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.

Eze_37:5 Thus says the Lord to these bones: Behold, I will bring upon you the breath of life;

Eze_37:5  Τάδε λέγει κύριος τοῖς ὀστέοις τούτοις Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ φέρω εἰς ὑμᾶς πνεῦμα ζωῆς

Eze_37:6 I will lay sinews on you, and will bring up flesh on you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am Yahweh.

Eze_37:6 and I will lay sinews upon you, and I will bring up flesh upon you, and spread skin upon you, and I will put My Spirit into you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord.

Eze_37:6  καὶ δώσω ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς νεῦρα καὶ ἀνάξω ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς σάρκας καὶ ἐκτενῶ ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς δέρμα καὶ δώσω πνεῦμά μου εἰς ὑμᾶς, καὶ ζήσεσθε· καὶ γνώσεσθε ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος.

Eze_37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, an earthquake; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.

Eze_37:7 So I prophesied as the Lord commanded me. And it came to pass while I was prophesying, that behold, there was a rattling, and the bones approached each one to his joint.

Eze_37:7  καὶ ἐπροφήτευσα καθὼς ἐνετείλατό μοι. καὶ ἐγένετο ἐν τῷ ἐμὲ προφητεῦσαι καὶ ἰδοὺ σεισμός, καὶ προσήγαγε τὰ ὀστᾶ ἑκάτερον πρὸς τὴν ἁρμονίαν αὐτοῦ.

Eze_37:8 I saw, and, behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh came up, and skin covered them above; but there was no breath in them.

Eze_37:8 And I looked, and behold, sinews and flesh grew upon them, and skin came upon them above. But there was not breath in them.

Eze_37:8  καὶ εἶδον καὶ ἰδοὺ ἐπ᾿ αὐτὰ νεῦρα καὶ σάρκες ἐφύοντο, καὶ ἀνέβαινεν ἐπ᾿ αὐτὰ δέρμα ἐπάνω, καὶ πνεῦμα οὐκ ἦν ἐν αὐτοῖς.

Eze_37:9 Then said he to me, Prophesy to the wind, prophesy, son of man, and tell the wind, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Come from the four winds, breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.

Eze_37:9 And He said to me, Prophesy to the wind; prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus says the Lord: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these dead, that they may live.

Eze_37:9  καὶ εἶπεν πρός με Προφήτευσον, υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, προφήτευσον ἐπὶ τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ εἰπὸν τῷ πνεύματι Τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἐκ τῶν τεσσάρων πνευμάτων ἐλθὲ καὶ ἐμφύσησον εἰς τοὺς νεκροὺς τούτους, καὶ ζησάτωσαν.

Eze_37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up on their feet, an exceedingly great army.

Eze_37:10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath entered into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, a very great congregation.

Eze_37:10  καὶ ἐπροφήτευσα καθότι ἐνετείλατό μοι· καὶ εἰσῆλθεν εἰς αὐτοὺς τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ ἔζησαν καὶ ἔστησαν ἐπὶ τῶν ποδῶν αὐτῶν, συναγωγὴ πολλὴ σφόδρα.

Eze_37:11 Then he said to me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.

Eze_37:11 And the Lord spoke to me, saying, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: and they say, Our bones have become dry, our hope has perished, we are quite spent.

Eze_37:11  καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρός με λέγων Υἱὲ ἀνθρώπου, τὰ ὀστᾶ ταῦτα πᾶς οἶκος Ισραηλ ἐστίν, καὶ αὐτοὶ λέγουσιν Ξηρὰ γέγονεν τὰ ὀστᾶ ἡμῶν, ἀπόλωλεν ἡ ἐλπὶς ἡμῶν, διαπεφωνήκαμεν.

Eze_37:12 Therefore prophesy, and tell them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, my people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze_37:12 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus says the Lord: Behold, I will open your tombs, and will bring you up out of your tombs, and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze_37:12  διὰ τοῦτο προφήτευσον καὶ εἰπόν Τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἀνοίγω ὑμῶν τὰ μνήματα καὶ ἀνάξω ὑμᾶς ἐκ τῶν μνημάτων ὑμῶν καὶ εἰσάξω ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν γῆν τοῦ Ισραηλ,

Eze_37:13 You shall know that I am Yahweh, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, my people.

Eze_37:13 And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, that I may bring up My people from their graves.

Eze_37:13  καὶ γνώσεσθε ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι κύριος ἐν τῷ ἀνοῖξαί με τοὺς τάφους ὑμῶν τοῦ ἀναγαγεῖν με ἐκ τῶν τάφων τὸν λαόν μου.

Eze_37:14 I will put my Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and you shall know that I, Yahweh, have spoken it and performed it, says Yahweh.

Eze_37:14 And I will put My Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you upon your own land; and you shall know that I am the Lord; I have spoken, and will do it, says the Lord.

Eze_37:14  καὶ δώσω τὸ πνεῦμά μου εἰς ὑμᾶς, καὶ ζήσεσθε, καὶ θήσομαι ὑμᾶς ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν ὑμῶν, καὶ γνώσεσθε ὅτι ἐγὼ κύριος λελάληκα καὶ ποιήσω, λέγει κύριος.

 

 

 

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11/19/14

 

Was Jesus ever sick?

Lev_22:19-25, Deu_15:21

 

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Medicine and Health food is Biblical

Gen1-2

Eat green stuff

Eze bread

I am the bread of life

 

Righteous people can be afflicted too

Who sinned, this man or his father?

Poor Sick Lazarus - Righteous people can be sick, and not have what they need to be healthy

Laughter is good medicine

Good Samaritan ...go and do likewise

A little wine for your stomach

Leaves are for the healing of the nations

 

Job -- who James praises as a pattern for nt healing

Bent over Woman... Daughter of Abraham

 

Tobias' Sara - who was rightous, but had a demon who affectionately loved her...

2/4/14

 

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faith: when you only have someone's head and not their heart, you have unfaithfulness

 

Hebrews

See: AAH

 

 

 

 

Salvation Holy Spirit Bible Study

 

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Important Notes

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>> SHOSP Additions / TODO!

 

 

 

V: 11/22/15

This question is specific to me but if we have time I have really wanted to know the answer to this question.

3. Why did you say that I can be filled with The Holy Spirit instead of it just happening?

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To do (1/16/11):

(1) Adoption

(2) Prerequisites and Preparations for Getting Filled

(3) Favors in Ephesians

(4) Testimonies Applications to Us

 

Address old “FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT” bbs

 

you don't know what you know: Already clean vs. Lord give me a bath!

 

Heb_1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

 

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Gifts Before Filling?

Ot gifts -- search for this!!!

Prophets before Pentecost

Celibacy before Pentecost (Judith, Anna, John the Baptist, etc.)

 

Fillings before Pentecost (Saul of Benjamin)

 

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How to Lust After the spirituals

 

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- eagerly desire the spirituals

- i long to be w you to impart some spiritual thing

- Spiritual gifts are limited by the availability of Paul, and his capacity to travel and pray for people, but then also by people's attraction, because, 'He could not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief'

- joints and ligaments

- don't lean on your own understanding... because "you do not know what you know"

- it is better that Jesus goes away... but what if He comes and you don't receive Him... (what good is that to miss Jesus by circumstance, and then also by choice!)

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- Saul was anointed, and God's Spirit came upon Him (dependent on Samuel)

- we need to lust like Paul marked out for us...

- entrust truth to faithful men... and then transmission can happen

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“Lesson Plan”

1. Salvation | 2. Pre-commissions | 3. John (Jesus needs to come to you) | 4. Great Commission | 5. Acts (Waiting for Jesus > Filling in ACTSion) | 6. Rom 8 > Adoption > Sealed

 

Preface

1. The only rule is that the Bible is true

Controversial? (yes); Against our beliefs? (yes); But it is True

 

The Only Rule is that We Agree the Bible is True

 

2. This might be Overwhelming at first > so it calls for a lot of Meditation

 

Great Commission

See: Saving Discipleship Bible study

 

After going over the Pre-commissions and the Great Commission, then we can consider the exchange of “the comforter”.

 

For A Time, Jesus was ‘the Comforter’ on Earth

Jesus’ prophecy of “Another comforter” shows us that this time (up to that point) of “pre-commissioning” was a time of borrowed favor from a Present Helper (Jesus) who would be “tag teamed” with the Holy Spirit after Pentecost. (This is explained in John, as seen in the next section)

 

Joh_14:16-17 – “another comforter”

 

Joh_14:25 – Why? ‘Because I was with you’

 

Consider:  Joh_14:26-28, Joh_15:26; Joh_16:7-15,

 

“Lesson Plan”

1. Salvation | 2. Pre-commissions | 3. John (Jesus needs to come to you) | 4. Great Commission | 5. Acts (Waiting for Jesus > Filling in ACTSion) | 6. Rom 8 > Adoption > Sealed

 

3. What John Shows Us – Jesus Still needs to come to you

Below: Living Water | What is this Water | Theme of Not Yet Knowing | Answer: not NOW! | Wait with Salvation, for the Holy Spirit

 

Living Water

Joh_4:3-42

Especially speaking of Holy Spirit:

Joh_4:7-15 [Joh_4:14]

and compare: Joh_4:32-34 – food to eat

 

What is this Water

Exo_17:6; [1Co_10:4] Psa_36:8, Psa_36:9, Psa_46:4; Isa_12:3, Isa_35:6; Isa_41:17, Isa_41:18, Isa_43:20, Isa_44:3, Isa_49:10, Isa_55:1-3; Jer_2:13; Temple: Eze_47:1-9; Zec_13:1, Zec_14:8; Rev_7:17, Rev_21:6, Rev_22:1, Rev_22:2, Rev_22:17

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Joh_6:35

Joh_7:37-39

 

You Do Not Yet Know, What You Know

Joh_13:7 – You don't know now

not like Pharisees: Joh_1:26; Joh_8:55; Joh_8:19, Joh_7:28-29, Joh_7:29, Joh_15:21, Joh_16:3, Joh_17:25; Mat_11:27; Luk_10:22

Joh_13:36-38 – Not ready for martyrdom now

(What they do know: Joh_17:25)

Joh_14:4-9 – Father & the Way – they did not know they knew

Joh_14:20

(Joh_16:16-32)

 

What is the solution?? – Joh_14:25-26; Joh_16:12-15; Joh_16:23

 

> see verses below…

 

Answer: not NOW!

- why?

- if not now, when?

- how long do I “wait”?

 

Wait with Salvation, for the Holy Spirit

Other (much older) dates; 6/17/17

 

Joh_14:15-18 – ‘I will come to you…I will not leave you as orphans’

 

Also: Joh_14:19-29

Especially: Joh_14:25-27

(Spirit of truth: Joh_15:26, Joh_16:13; 1Jo_2:27, 1Jo_4:6)

>> Sync: Lov | SPI > SalHoSp

 

Everything must take the back seat in light of your personal need for truth in you:

Luk_11:37-54; Luk_12:1-5

Joh_6:61-65

 

Joh_15:26-27 – Holy Spirit Testimony

Joh_16:4 – “…because I was with you...”

Contrasted with: “I will come to you” Joh_14:18

Joh_16:7-16 - It is beneficial for you that I go away

Joh_16:25 - I will show plainly

(vs. Joh_16:29-32)

 

For now, Jesus told them…

Joh_14:17 – You know Him…He is with you (as in Joh_20:21-23), & will be in you

 

Answer: you don't yet know what you know… so WAIT till you know!

…And when you know, GO! [into all the world]

 

(This is reaffirmed again under “The Tendency of Acts,” as seen in the next section)

 

“Lesson Plan”

1. Salvation | 2. Pre-commissions | 3. John (Jesus needs to come to you) | 4. Great Commission | 5. Acts (Waiting for Jesus > Filling in ACTSion) | 6. Rom 8 > Adoption > Sealed

 

Anointed/ “Christened”

Luk_3:21-23 – Jesus anointed, (what we call, the Christ, as seen with the priest (τοῦ χριστοῦ) in Lev_21:10)

Luk_4:1 – Equated with filling

Luk_4:14 – Resulted in the power of the Spirit (not tongues)

Luk_4:15-19Immediate message: “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, because He has anointed [ἔχρισέ] Me to preach the gospel [εὐαγγελίσασθαι] to the poor” (Luk_4:18 CAB)

 

This is Spoken About in the Context of “Temple Service”

Lev_21:10A kind of perfecting [τετελειωμένου*] by anointing for service in the temple

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Heb_7:28Perfected [τετελειωμένον*] the Son forever (compare: Heb_5:6-11)

 

Jesus’ “Anointing” and “Filling” Clearly Summarized

Act_10:38 CAB Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all those who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.

 

[* Many versions paraphrase this word as “consecrated” in an attempt to express the context of “temple service” throughout passages like this]

 

Romans 8 – Adoption

Compare Romans 8 Picture: http://www.trueconnection.org/images/TruthPics/Rom8_Explanation_1.16.11.JPG

[Note: I generally recommend right-clicking this picture link and saving it as a file on your computer (or else opening it and simply dragging it onto your computer from your web browser)]

 

Notice what Jesus heard at His water/ Spiritual baptism: “My Son in whom I am well pleased”

 

Rom_8:9-11 (does not address “having” but not in)

Rom_8:13-17

Rom_8:21-23

 

Gal_3:14 – Promise of Spirit

Gal_4:1-7 – Receive Adoption:

- when earthly father is in heaven, he's not currently your father...

- same with a husband (when in heaven, no longer “your husband”)

- what does that mean when Jesus went to heaven (He is no longer the current/ present “Comforter”)?

- But notice!: (1) You must first be a real son before you can be an orphan! (2) You must first be an orphan before you can be adopted!

 

(children of promise: Gal_4:21-31 - Gal_5:1)

 

Sealed

2Co_1:21-22 – Established/ sealed/ christened [χρίσας] – The main passage that shows this link

Eph_1:13-14 – Sealed after believing...  The guarantee of the inheritance

Eph_4:29-30 – Linked with the (preceding) spiritual favors...  It is possible to make this “seal” (the Holy Spirit) sad by not exhibiting virtues

Note: This is preceded by the Gifts (Eph_4:12-18)!

 

1Co_1:4-8 CAB I thank my God always on your behalf for the grace of God which was given to you in Christ Jesus,  5  that in everything you were enriched by Him in all utterance and all knowledge,  6  just as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you,  7  so that you come short in no gift, eagerly awaiting the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,  8  who will also confirm you until the end, that you may be unimpeachable in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

4. How Do You Get It? How Do You Know When You Got It?

> Compare: Theological Considerations

 

Act_19:2-7 – "Did you receive the Holy Spirit, after having believed?"

 

Act_6:2-7 – Initial Servant-Requirements (deacons) – there must be a away to determine it then

You have got to have reasonable evidence to be able to answer this question!

 

Prerequisites and Preparations for Getting Filled

(1) Acknowledge these Basics with your entire being

Luk_24:48-49; Act_1:4; Act_2:39 – It is a promise

Luk_11:13 – Ask

Act_5:32-33 – He Gives The Holy Spirit to those who obey Him (Joh_14:16)

 

(2) Remember the Responsibility of maintaining personal, non-exaltation… Humility/ prayer/ zeal… diligence and sacrifice that makes God smile (think of Jesus in Luk_2:52, and the Apostles waiting in the upper room

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(3) Somebody needs some actual, eager, clean, and reasonable faith for this to happen

(4) After adjusting to a righteous, eager, diligent and faithful posture, wait in faithfulness for what follows…

2Co_8:11-12 CAB And now also complete doing it; that as indeed there was the readiness to desire it, thus also there may be the completion from what you have.  12  For if there is first a readiness, it is acceptable according to what one has, and not according to what he does not have.

Faithfulness:

- Do not charge the animals with ‘wrong doing’ for not praying and giving alms to the poor – they are animals! They are only responsible for what is within their reach

- The patriarchs were great

- Jesus said greatness was about ‘humbling yourself like this little child’!

- Talents

- to whom much is entrusted

Problems Beliefs: Maybe God wants me to be sadder because I do not have it yet... Maybe God just wants me to be more miserable so He will answer me....

goodness: you will not ever find a higher answer for how to please God...

no fretting/ despairing

The Tendency of Acts – Hands, Tongues, Prophecy, & Verbal Overflow from God – And that’s Not All!

From Waiting for Jesus, to Filling in ACTSion

(A) Waiting – (esp. Act_1:4-8)

Initial Context: “Mount of Olives” (Act_1:12)

Act_1:1-3 – 40 Days between resurrection and ascension: “He also presented Himself alive…during forty days” (CAB); Pentecost is “the Fiftieth [day]” (this apparently makes about (as much as) 7-10 days between the resurrection and Pentecost; [Greek: ζῶντα μετὰ τὸ παθεῖν αὐτὸν ἐν πολλοῖς τεκμηρίοις, δι᾿ ἡμερῶν τεσσεράκοντα ὀπτανόμενος])

Discrepancies that one person said: (1) “Pentecost is 50 days after Easter” (2) “Pentecost is 50 days after the Passover” (3) “Pentecost occurred 10 days later” and; (4) finally said: “Second thought: Christ was in the grave 3 days and then was seen for 40 days. Possibly Pentecost occurred 7 days later. IE 40+3= 43. 43 from 50=7. Good question!”

Act_1:4-8 (Luk_24:48-49) – Don’t leave Jerusalem; Wait for “Power”/ the “Promise of the Father” (also see: Act_2:33; and John)/ (“Comforter” [as we have seen in John])/ Baptism of the Holy Spirit

Act_1:6-8 – They still had Messianic questions, but He said, for now, it is the time for you to “receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you” (Act_1:8) and be witnesses as a result

Act_1:9-11 – Ascension

Act_1:12-26 – Waiting (for about (as much as) 7-10 days!) (Mount of Olives > Jerusalem > Upper room)

Act_1:13-14 – Main People there (120 total – v. Act_1:15)

(Some seek to revise the location to the temple by citing: Luk_24:51-53; Act_2:5-6; Act_2:41; Act_2:46 – but reread: Act_1:13-14 & Act_2:46Act_2:1 is non-specific Greek: “ἐπὶ τὸ αὐτό” but Act_2:2 specifies: “τὸν οἶκον” – the house, not “τῷ ἱερῷ” – the temple, as seen in Luk_24:53; Act_2:46)

Compare: http://knowingthetimes.com/what-didnt-happen-in-the-upper-room/

[“Mary” (Μαρίᾳ/ Μαριάμ – i.e. Miriam) seems to be the matriarch over the women here, as Miriam had been under Moses (Mic_6:4) – this seems to be the setup for servants as well: many men leaders to generally lead, and specialized women servants for particular needs (food/ hospitality (incl. strangers)/ women’s needs, & sometimes prophetic council)]

Act_1:14 – “These were continuing with one mind [ὁμοθυμαδὸν – together heat] in prayer [τῇ προσευχῇ – the toward requesting] and petition [δεήσει], together…” (CAB) – This is the general description of their continued posture (then it gives some details of some spiritual things they took care of in the process…)

Act_1:15-26 – Casting lots

(B) Filling in ACTSion

Pentecost

Act_2:1-21/ Act_2:38-48 – Pentecost (9am (Act_2:15): 120 people, in the upper room, for 7-10 days together)

Initial Corporate Filling: (1) Power resulting in being witnesses: (Luk_4:14) Luk_24:48-49; Act_1:8, Act_1:21-22; Act_2:32; (and again in Act_4:30, Act_4:33; Act_5:28-32); (2) Tongues: Act_2:4-16; (3) Summarized as prophecy: Act_2:16-18 (see: 1Co_14:5 & Act_2:6-12*); (4) Ernest Testimony & Exhortation: Act_2:14-41; esp.: Act_2:29**; Act_2:36-39; Act_2:40; (& even joy is somewhat mentioned Act_2:28); (5) Long-term result: community: Act_2:41-47, (as seen in the examples under the next section called, “Beyond Pentecost”) – the first baptism in many ways seems to answer the rest of the book of Acts, and foreshadow the rest of the Bible

[* “confounded” (KJV)/ “confusion” G4797 (NKJV) (Act_2:6) is actually “συνεχυθη” (poured together; i.e. everything at once/ fig. “too much to take in”) whereas in 1Co_14:33 it is “ακαταστασιας” G181 (i.e. unstable; fig “chaotic”); The “wonderful works” (Act_2:11) are actually μεγαλειαG3167 A-APN (wonderfulness-es)]

[** παῤῥησία = πᾶς (all) + ῥέω (pour forth speech, as a “river” G4483/G4482); (παῤῥησία also sounds similar to παρουσίας)]

Typical Pentecostal embellishment: “Then they all got so filled with the Spirit they came a stumbl’n and a tumbl’n out of that upper room. . .” (attributed to Rev. Loudly Tonguels of the First Church of the Upper Room located on the middle east side of town at 120 Gathering Pl. Pentacoastal, Florida)

http://knowingthetimes.com/what-didnt-happen-in-the-upper-room/

(Act_3:1-26 – lame man healed)

Peter Refilled

Act_4:8-13, Act_4:19-20 – Peter refilled to testify/ “teach” (v. Act_4:18; Act_5:25, Act_5:28-32; [think: XA threats])/ speak boldly [παρρησιαν] (v. Act_4:13 [incl. John]) (no tongues; no noticeable/ “conventional” prophecy – but see: Rev_19:10)

“aorist participle, could be translated "having just been filled", indicating a continual process”

[Illiterate: αγραμματοιG62; ‘untrained’: ιδιωταιG2399 – non-specialized / one of our own (common) people/ a “good old boy” (not one of those professionals) – especially compare: 2Co_11:6]

Corporately Refilled

Act_4:29-37 – Corporately refilled to: (1) speak the Word of God boldly (v. Act_4:29, Act_4:31), and (2) to have “great power” [μεγάλῃ δυνάμει] (v. Act_4:33) to heal & do signs & wonders (v. Act_4:30; also: Act_5:12-16), (3) as witnesses of the resurrection (v. Act_4:33 [esp. for the Apostles in points 2-3]), (4) which was, preceded by very corporate, very fervent prayer (v. Act_4:23-31), and verified by the room shaking (v. Act_4:31), (5) and re-verified by community being mentioned again (v. Act_4:32, Act_4:34-37 [this is why A. & S. were said to have, “lied to the Holy Spirit”! – Act_5:3-4, Act_5:8-11]), (6) and “great favor(Tongues and Prophecy not mentioned)

Steven

Act_6:2-10 – Steven was: (1) “of reputation” (Act_6:3); (2) full of: the Holy Spirit and Wisdom (Act_6:3); (3) faith and the Holy Spirit (Act_6:5); (4) faith and power (Act_6:8); (5) who did “great wonders and signs among the people” (Act_6:8 CAB); (6) With Profound innocents (Act_6:15); (7) who saw a vision at his martyrdom (Act_6:55-56, Act_6:59) (8) and had profound mercy and forgiveness! (Act_6:60);

Act_6:9-10 CAB But there arose some men… debating with Stephen.  10  And they were not able to withstand the wisdom and the Spirit with which he spoke.

Act_6:15 CAB And looking intently at him, all those who sat in the council saw his face like the face of an angel.

Samaria

Act_8:4-19Samaria (Salvation, then Filling):  (1) Salvation: Act_8:4-8; (2) Filling: Act_8:14-17; (3) Simon's Interpretation: Act_8:18-19

(A) Before their filling: (1) Community started happening that far surpassed racial tension (Act_8:4-6); (2) Philip was Casting out demons (Act_8:7); (3) “great joy” resulted (Act_8:8); (4) They had believed when good announcement of the Kingdom was proclaimed (Act_8:6, Act_8:12); (5) People were being baptized (Act_8:13, Act_8:16), because, (6) Samaria had received the Word of God (Act_8:14)

>> Add Greek!:

(B) Filling: Act_8:14-17

(1) Peter and John Prayed for them “that they might receive the Holy Spirit” (Act_8:14-15); (2) Because “He had not yet fallen upon any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of Christ Jesus” (Act_8:16); (3) “they laid hands upon them, and they received the Holy Spirit” (Act_8:17-18)

Paul

Act_9:17-22 – Paul (unspecified Filling)

Initial filling: Growing Proclamation results; (Later, tongues mentioned: 1Co_14:18-19);

(Received healing, then food, then (at some point) began to proclaim in the synagogues)

Cornelius

Act_10:45/Act_10:46 – Salvation by filling

(A) Angel Visit

(1) Act_10:3-7 – Original Narrative

(2) Act_10:22 – Messengers remix

(3) Act_10:30-33 – Cornelius remix

(4) Act_11:2-4; Act_11:13-14 – Peter Remix: “words by which you will be saved”

(5) Act_15:7-9 – Peter’s Second Remix: Hearts purified

>> Add other verses from this chap

(B) “Accepted” > “Cleansed”

Act_10:13-15 – “What God hath cleansed

Act_10:27-35 – “accepted” (not common: Act_10:2)

Act_10:36-43 - Gospel Preached: Forgiveness of sins...

Act_10:44-48; Act_11:15-17 - Holy Spirit Falls (interpretation: Act_10:45-46 - They were cleansed!)

Act_15:9 - hearts purified

> (think: because you are sons... spirit of His son into your hearts ?? – Gal?)

[Compare sanctification of being physically christened [i.e. becoming τοῦ χριστοῦ]: Lev_21:4, Lev_21:6-10] – as seen in Biblical Dress Code

(C) Filled – Holy Spirit Descriptions

(1) Fell (Act_10:44); (2) the gift had been poured out (Act_10:45); (3) Tongues (Act_10:46); (4) Magnify God (Act_10:46); (5) Baptized in water also (Act_10:47-48) – this means that Peter and those present fully accepted & approved of their experience; (6) Equated with Pentecost (without visible flames of fire) (Act_10:47/ Act_11:15-18/ Act_15:8)

(Compare: Joh_4:3-42 as seen previously under John)

Saul/ Paul Refilled

Act_13:6-12 – Saul/ Paul refilled for Prophecy & Miracle (against Bar-Jesus/ Elymas)

Act_13:52 – After persecution: unspecified refilling (accompanied with joy – compare Act_2:28)

Act_19:6 – Rebaptism in water, & initial Baptism in the Holy Spirit resulting in tongues and prophecy.

Other Acts Notes

(1) Compare: ‘Out of the Overflow of Heart’

Mat_12:33-37/ Luk_6:45 – περισσεύματοςG4051

(also see: Mat_15:18-19; Mar_7:20-23)

(2) Other “Fillings” in Acts

> Details: as a whole, filling mentioned at least 23 times

Act_1:16; Act_3:18; Act_13:27; Act_13:33 (Promise) – Scripture

Act_2:2 – “the whole house”

Act_3:10 – filled with astonishment

Act_5:3 – Satan filled Ananias’ heart (I think Peter & John would have remembered Judas at this point)

Act_5:17 – Sadducees…filled with jealousy (compare: Act_13:45)

Act_5:28 – Jerusalem filled with the Good Announcement

Act_7:30 – “forty years…fulfilled” for Moses

Act_9:23 – days were fulfilled

Act_12:25 – service (proclaiming) fulfilled

Act_13:45 – the Jews…filled with jealousy (compare: Act_5:28)

Act_13:52 – with joy

Act_14:17 – filling…hearts with food and gladness

Act_19:20-21 – evangelism, salvation, & truth proclamation fulfilled

Act_19:29 – the whole city was filled with confusion

(3) Luke’s Emphasis

Luke has a lot about the Holy Spirit, and you can kind of get the impression that the book of Acts is all about the Holy Spirit, from beginning commission through the rest of the book

(4) The Issue of Initial Filling

> Compare: Theological Considerations

Pentecostals nearly always focus on the initial fillings: chapters 2, 8, 9, 10, 19

·        I think this is why we always tend to expect tongues, because they say it is “always” the initial physical evidence

·        But as we see, even the initial fillings are sometimes unspecified; yes, they are at other times given even more than tongues and prophecy as their markers!

(5) Fulfillments

(A) Death > Passover [Nisan 14 (April)] (B) Resurrection > First Fruits [Nisan 17] (Joh_12:25; 1Co_15:20-23; Col_1:18; Act_26:23; Rev_1:5; Joh_10:18; Joh_11:25 > Since Jesus is the grain and the fruit that result, He is the “real food”: Joh_6:23 (etc.); Mat_26:26/ Mar_14:22; (also Mar_7:27); (C) Filling > Pentecost [Sivan 6 (May)]

(6) Initial Filling – Theological Documentation

What do Pentecostals usually do upon seeing these Scriptures?

Here is their hijacked passage:

 “For they heard them speak with tongues (this is the initial, physical evidence that one has been Baptized with the Holy Spirit; it always and without exception accompanies the Spirit Baptism), and magnify God (means that some of them would stop speaking in tongues momentarily, and then begin to praise God in their natural language, magnifying His Name)” (Acts_10:44-46).

http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/what-initial-physical-evidence-being-baptized-holy-spirit – Jimmy Swaggart (Emphasis added)

Hands for Commissioning, After Filling

Isn't there some impartation here?

Act_6:2-7 – Initial Servant-Requirements (deacons) (there must be a away to determine it then…)

Act_13:2 – Barnabas & Saul

(Also: Jas_5:13-18 – Hands for healing, and also consider how many times Jesus did this)

Timothy’s Commissioning & Gifting By Hands

1Ti_4:13-16 > 2Ti_1:6; [1Ti_1:18 – prophecies]

1Ti_5:22-25 – Keep clean from other people's sins

Remember: Cornelius – Salvation By Filling, Without Hands!

An example of Salvation by filling, then Baptism in water

One Main Point: The Spiritual Realm is Multifaceted & Elusive

This is the way it is with Everyone who is Born of the Spirit Wind

Joh_3:8 CAB "The wind [πνεῦμα – spirit/wind] blows [πνεῖ – i.e. “spirits”] where it wills [θέλει], and you hear its sound, but you do not know [οἶδας] from where it comes and where it goes. So is everyone who has been born [γεγεννημένος – lit. become generated] of [ἐκ – out of] the Spirit [Πνεύματος – spirit/wind]."

See: Act_2:2; Ecc_11:5; 1Co_2:11; 1Co_12:11

Is this talking about the baptism as so many say it is? If so, then does that correlate with what is described in Acts?

Not with Your Observation

To what degree do these things pertain to the Baptism of the Holy Spirit?

Is this at all like “a watched pot [that] never boils”?

Luk_17:20-21 CAB Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;  21  neither will they say, 'Look here!' or 'Look, there it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is among you."

> Consider: An adulterous Generation seeks a sign

5. Continuing Beyond Pentecost – The Evidence of Resident Favor

What is the long-term description of having the Baptism of the Holy Spirit?

>> difference in nouns??:

“Gifting” is Really a “Thing” of Favor

Rom_12:3-9 CAB For I say, through the grace [χάριτος – favor] given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself too highly, beyond what you should think, but to think soberly, as God has imparted to each one a measure of faith.  4  For just as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function,  5  so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another.  6  Having then gifts [χαρίσματα – lit. “favoring” things] differing according [κατὰ] to the grace [χάριν – favor] having been given [δοθεῖσαν] to us, let us use them: whether prophecy, let us prophecy according [κατὰ] to the proportion of faith;  7  whether ministry, let us use it in our ministry; whether teaching; in the teaching;  8  whether exhorting, in the exhortation; whether sharing, with simplicity; whether leading, with diligence; whether showing mercy, with cheerfulness.  9  Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor that which is evil. Cling to that which is good.

What Follows is a description of what it looks like…

Rom_12:9-21

Hope By Holy Spirit

Rom_5:5; Rom_15:13; 2Th_2:16-17

Favors in Corinthians

1Co_1:4-7; 1Co_12:8-11, 1Co_12:28-30

I Cor. 12:29-30 which uses the Greek negative mē, thus requiring that a negative answer be given to the question, "Do all speak in tongues?"

NASB

"All do not speak with tongues, do they?"

I Cor. 14:2, 4 refers to tongues for personal edification and not requiring interpretation

also: I Cor. 14:14-18 contrasts speaking and singing "with the spirit"

(a personal thing)

Prophecy and Tongues in the Assembly

1Co_14:1-25

Favors in Ephesians

Unless otherwise noted, CAB is used for quotes below

(A) Eph_4:1-11 – The Descriptions of the Gifts

(1) Eph_4:1-2cleanness and virtues encourage it

(2) Eph_4:3“the unity of the Spirit”

(3) Eph_4:4-6“one body and one Spirit...” One Lord, faith, immersion, “God and Father” (of/over/through/in all)

(4) Eph_4:7 – it is the favor given according to the measure of the gift of Christ

(5) Eph_4:8-10ascended...gave gifts (i.e. a definite reference to Pentecost)

(6) Eph_4:11 – the List...

(B) Eph_4:12-18 – The Purpose of the Gifts

(1) Eph_4:12“for the perfecting...”

(2) Eph_4:13“until we all arrive...” (some people want to boast, ‘I have not yet arrived’– but they still want to deny gifts??)

(3) Eph_4:14no longer be infants

(4) Eph_4:16 – Again He says: Builds up the body

(5) Eph_4:17-18 – Helps you not be natural

(6) Eph_4:23-24 – They Renew

(C) So Be Fervent

Eph_4:30-32 – do not grieve the Holy Spirit (cleanness and virtue encourage it)

1Th_5:19-22 – do not put out fire (incl. prophecy), but instead...

Rom_12:11 – Be fervent

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SEALED

The Reception of Favor Things is Evidence of Filling

Jesus said the comforted would ‘dwell in you’ – therefore, it is a resident favor

1Pe_4:7-11 CAB Now the end of all things is at hand G1448 V-RAI-3S [ἤγγικε(ν) – Perfect Tense: has come at hand]; therefore be of sound mind [σωφρονήσατε] and self-controlled G3525 [νήψατε – sober] in your prayers.  8  And above all things have fervent love [ἐκτενῆ – lit extended/ stretched out] for one another, because "love will cover [καλύψεg] a multitude of sins."  9  Be hospitable [φιλόξενοι – stranger/ foreigner-lover/ liker-s] to [εἰς] one another [ἀλλήλους] [i.e. overcome the fact that you are not naturally related to each other by faith in truth] without grumbling.  10  As [καθὼς] each one has received [ἔλαβε] a gift G5486 N-ASN [χάρισμα* – lit. a favor (thing)], minister [διακονοῦντες] it to [εἰς] one another, as good stewards [οἰκονόμοι – lit. House-law-(giv)ers; fig. managers/ stewards (i.e. if you have a favor, you have the “law” of it entrusted to your management)] of the manifold [ποικίλης] grace [χάριτος (as in the “χάρισμα” he just meantioned)] of God. 11  If anyone speaks [λαλεῖ], let him speak as the utterances [ὡς λόγια – lit. as words] of God. If anyone serves [διακονεῖ], let him serve as from [ἐξ – out (of)] strength, as God supplies, so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom is the glory and the power forever and ever [εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων]. Amen.

[* alt. use of χάρισμα: Financial help: 2Co_1:11; Salvation: Rom_5:15-16; Rom_6:23; Rom_11:29]

- Did you notice the need for being fervent & cultivating virtues again? (The Spirit that is Holy is please around holiness; Do not grieve Him away, esp. when you need Him near to seal you)

- Gives it to those who obey

- If there are gifts, it suggests that there is filling as seen in the previous points

Psalms, Hymns, Spiritual Songs

This is what it looks like

Eph_5:18-21 CAB And do not get drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit,  19  speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord,  20  giving thanks always concerning all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,  21  subjecting yourselves to one another in the fear of God.

Favor Implies Something about Favors

- We seen then that the term “Gifting” may take away the link which they have with the favor of God, so let us be sensitive to this

- We don’t want to make it synonyms, but there is affine distinction between the Verb (favor from God) and the Noun (the favors we have received from Him)

- We should conclude something like: Favor either says you have it, or at least you are about to get it

Remember: Barnabas “saw” the favor of God

Spirit Lord upon me:

Luk_4:17

After: Baptism + Dove (christening/ filling)

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TESTIMONIES  Applications to Us

Blossom Questions

Tongues – when am I filled?

- How much “holy spirit experience” should carry over to now?

- How do you know when tongues are real and good?

- It seems to Get to a point to where it is ok to speak in tongues…

- But how do I know if it is good if I was approving of people I should not have been

6. Opposition to Gifting –Dispensationalism vs. Believing what the Bible Says About Gifts

Originally added: 10/18/09; 10/20/09

Notice: you are not allowed to read this as though it stood outside of the context of verbal explanation

Dispensational Term

People talk about “the Old Testament Dispensation”

- but this is a completely made up term

- it is called the Old Covenant, not “dispensation”

Heb_8:6-13 - made the first old

Heb_9:15-20 - New Covenant

Proper use of Dispensation

Eph_1:10 - G3622

8 places:

Luk_16:2; Luk_16:3; Luk_16:4; 1Co_9:17; Eph_1:10; Eph_3:2; Col_1:25; 1Ti_1:4;

> only 1 out of 8 refs are for "time"

“Transitional Period” –

Not at all a Biblical term or teaching, but a dispensational invention

Holy Spirit is when He brings us to that point of salvation

> but that would imply that the Apostles did not get brought to that point

We don’t have fire on our head… “three times” – does not actually say this though

The “age” of the Holy Spirit

(also: Church “Age”)

Apostles was a confirmation of the introduction into the “church age”:

Mess up of Hebrews: this was written while they were still doing gifts

Heb_2:4 - God bearing witness with signs

Rom_15:4 - written for learning (intellectual or doctrinal?)

> Rom_16:17

> 2Ti_3:14-17

(includes doing signs Rom_15:19)

> miracles

And then Irenaeus

Greater works

Joh_14:10-12

‘Salvation, and heart change, did not happen until the Holy Spirit came’

Not ‘more people saved,’ because the “works which Jesus did” were nearly always equated with miracles: just read the preceding verses

- the works I do testify to me (Joh_10:25; Joh_10:37-38)

Act_10:38

Natural gifts used to Deny the Spiritual

it is easier to relate to someone else...

Sunday school

singing

some don't excel in that particular field, but others may have others such as public speaking

a lot of people think of them being supernatural, but this includes in the list... “helps”

it is the administration of the spirit, not the soul or flesh!:

1Co_12:1 - concerning Spirituals

1Co_12:7-11 - Revelation of the Spirit (1Co_12:7; 1Co_12:11)

- it does not show off what the flesh already had to impress people with you, but instead, it reveals the Holy Spirit, and this really profits all

“Do not need to know what gift is” –

Against the testimony of your own body

Should Not Use The Question Of Gifts To Say…

Not a matter of "proof"

test or sign of being christian

more sure word of prophecy:

the Scriptures? No, but confirming them!

2Pe_1:17-21


does this mean that the Scriptures have replaced prophecy and signs,

> since this was in the mist of signs?

> Peter Here is talking about promoting signs, not extinguishing them!

should be no attention given to man

> Should we assume that Peter was giving attention to men or did prophecy catapult into glorifying Jesus?

> Fruit is not in place of the gifts, or is it a superior working or more mature or prioritized faze

> sometimes, people with that focus on gifts… but does that apply to any in the room?

> But the basics are not compromised by the true pursuit of gifts

>

Yet I Show You A More Perfect Way

> But result of Love is gifts, not less gifts

> Do not need a balance of Love vs. gifts > Scripture shows us they are in agreement: go to the extreme on both

but never had to be that if done in grace (don't answer the counterfeit, when the real is being asked for)

Saved

Is it all the Holy Spirit or just some of it?

Does it go away after this and them come back later?

Salvation in Acts, would that be contrary to the teaching in the rest of the Bible?

It keeps going back to equating salvation into filling:

But none of this has to do with salvation, or a proof of it, per say

But That Is The Point

> The Acts of the Apostles is by necessary nature, not at all contrary to anything else in any of the epistles

> since the epistles were mostly written during the time of the acts

> therefore, we should seek to understand how the two expressions of doctrine tie in together, and perfectly agree for the new covenant

Acts is never to be treated simply as history, but as theology in ACTsion

2Ti_3:14-17

Answers for us

But you should both long for gifts, and naturally to know what it is if you have it

The complicated logic that we are used to, needs to be presented after the ground has been laid out by favor

You are asking people to leave long held ground before they have fully favored and recognized you

Leave glory and the greatest truth for the time of reception, not for the time of discussion

Discussing is not profitable when communicating precious truth and using it as occupied discussion

Once reception has come, then reason using the grace and truth which is already there and in place

Don’t prolong reasoning toward better things, until reception has happened

Don’t try to keep prolonging questions and explanation.

Don’t seek clarification

Learn when to stop asking questions

You cannot impart favor to move to new ground, when they are in the position of instructing and imparting

Don’t ever try to crawl up a straw

It is not proper to usurp authority in another person’s home, where someone has not been welcomed or established

To the girls I am a pastor, but not to most others

 

 

Evangelism

pre commissions

Why would you not want to fulfil the great commission?

- you need the comission to complete you before you can c

- it needs to make its full course upon you before you can run others:

Mat 28 > Mark

- consider precomissions vs. "wait" [until it is that] "I will come to you"

- Aren't we all called? Hopfully, but we are not all completed

Think:

 Difference between comissioning and witnesing as life-posture

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It is not given to you to complete the Great commission whe it is not complete in you.

You cannot impart to others what has not run it's ull course on you.

You cannot fulfill the great comission until it has first fulfilled you.

You cannot reproduce out of you kind as He says in Genesis.

You can only reproduce what, or who, you are

Will you assume that you are purified without a testimony from God as to the purity of your heart (Act_15:9)?

The service of God is perscriptive, not individualistic.

- not like Nahab and abihu (Lev_10:1)

- not like Saul (1Sa_15:8-31)

- Not like Uzza who put forth his hand (1Ch_13:9)

- thos who don't fall down are struck down dead

> You don't get to decide how your going to serve God, it must be confered upon you

> You are to always fear and tremble and fear at every though of answering God, never assuming your own worthyness and usfulness to God as Nahab and Abihu did.

> whatever happed to:

Joh_3:27 EMTV  ..."A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven.

but we've found ways to go ahead and act now without having to wait for the promis of the father, though while alone, Jesus' disciples dared not even leave the upper room!

> We can't simply by the arm of flesh make something happen

> We canot just choose to make ourselves worthy

> it is not simply given to all

Oh, how willingly we are ready to reproduce an unclean thing without any though!

If it be incomplete, no bother! One thing is always as good as another, and their is no specialness with finding and recieving from God!

 You need not be enticed and impressed with that which quickly exalts you to usefulness

Think Comissioning:

- Eph

- What do you supose it would mean

- Come on let's do something... same pragmatic mentality as 'everyone is saved here...'

- But how is it the same if we are saved? It is the same because we are not all completed and sealed in salvation.

- What do you actually want: "We got to do something" or "We got to do the right thing!"?

- You cannot call others to the living waters of eternal life found in Jesus, when you yourself are in the same place of yet needing water as the woman at the well

- Saul wanted things to look religiously good for the people. He used religion to please the carnal people so that they would quickly see results and not make him look bad

- Saul was willing to make himself prosper politically and look like a good leader at the expense of God's honor.

- If you cannot believe Jesus without pragmatic answers of feeling like we accomplished something churchy, then you will never seek God until you really find Him, because you will necisarily "be tested by times of insignificance" and this is the breading ground of greatness when you live off of God's hidden and true honor, by your patient, insignificant inactivity, unto the humiliation of the inactivity of your flesh.

this is no exuse for complacency over the death of wicked.

My main question is, "What do you want?" not what are you qualified for

Concerns:

Notice in both cases:

Opposition of Angelle and Josiahs

Act like no need to keep doing discipleship

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Personal vs. Social accountability

Personal – I have particular concerns

> I need to know you approve of God’s testimony for me

Social – Only option: find it in the Bible, or no obligation is upon me

Do not adjust to keep Pharisee’s happy

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Don’t use evangelism as a way out of facing your responsibilities:

- This way you do not have to acknowledge your problem and wait for it to be fixed. This way you don’t have to acknowledge you need to wait to be fixed. You can go ahead and feel good about yourself now, without acknowledging your own incompleteness

- This way you don’t have to cherish the assembling to pursue God’s favor, you do not have to change and love fellowship of favor, you do not have to open up to be held accountable to favor

--

You ough to lust asfter the life of the church and thrive off of her as a nursing infant, and never proudly think you can survive on your own.

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3 things

1. A statement was made "you don't diminish evangelism for the sake of 10 hour bible studies". I see it as vice versa. So I wanted to talk to you about Jesus' eyes of affection on his church.

Heb_10:25 - not foesaking assembling

Act_2:44-47 - house to house

Act_20:7-8, Act_20:11 - all night on tuth

Gal_6:9-10 - preference to faith, not world!

Act_4:23-32 - prayed lots first, then when supernatural came they preached!

- you have no right to make any such call, when/ if you are struggling or sinning with not valuing Jesus’ bride and loving the truth of God’s favor over your own introversion…

When you don’t cherish your own birth right, you have no right to make charges of inappropriate faithfulness and dedication to it

2. Unwarranted convictions

3. different measures of the Holy Spirit?

does that just mean different gifts or is there more to it than that?

Joh_3:34  For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure.

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These verses:

Eph_4:7  But grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ's gift.

Rom_12:3  For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

Rom_12:6  Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith

Apollos: Act_18:24-28

imediatly after: Act_19:2-7 - "Did you receive the Holy Spirit, having believed?"

Apreciate Your Season

they stayed many days

two years! vs. 3 mo

Rom 8, “Adoption,” Galatians, “Sealed”

1. Salvation

Would like to start with General, but need to get specific

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Some good points:

http://gear.dyndns.org/~spencer/Theology/tonguesnotevidencebaptismofholyspirit.html

11:15

Act_10:46

Act_9:17 does not associate Paul's filling with the Holy Spirit with "tongues"

- but did at some point:

I Cor. 14:18-19

Act_4:8, "filled", an aorist participle, could be translated "having just been filled", indicating a continual process

13:9, 52

Act_4:31 does not mention tongues

Why are not boldness (Act_4:31), power (Act_1:8) and prophecy (Act_19:6) the evidences of the filling of the Spirit?

I Cor. 12:29-30 which uses the Greek negative mē, thus requiring that a negative answer be given to the question, "Do all speak in tongues?"

NASB

"All do not speak with tongues, do they?"

I Cor. 14:2, 4 refers to tongues for personal edification and not requiring interpretation

also: I Cor. 14:14-18 contrasts speaking and singing "with the spirit"

(a personal thing)

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Theological Considerations to Address

> Compare: How Do You Get It?

Here are some issues you have almost certainly encounter wether you understood the backround driving it or not:

It goes without saying that the official AG position is easily dissolved upon reading Acts:

the initial physical evidence that one has been baptized with the Spirit, is ‘speaking with other tongues…’” – Jimmy Swaggart

http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/what-initial-physical-evidence-being-baptized-holy-spirit

Pentecostals, “believe that speaking in tongues is the necessary initial physical outward sign for this experience”

http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200501/200501_071_BaptismHS.cfm

Example statement we can easily see are wrong if we read the Bible:

“Even though there are many evidences, still, the initial physical evidence that one has been baptized with the Spirit, is “speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives the utterance.”  There are no exceptions to this. And once again, we will prove from the Word of God that this is the case. 

           

Some have claimed that some can be baptized with the Spirit without speaking with other tongues. There’s nothing in the Word of God that substantiates such thinking. And please understand, it’s not what Denominations might say, or particular Preachers, etc., but rather what the Word of God gives us. Unequivocally, it proclaims speaking with other tongues as the initial physical evidence” – Jimmy Swaggart

http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/what-initial-physical-evidence-being-baptized-holy-spirit (Emphasis added)

The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. The baptism of Christians in the Holy Spirit is accompanied by the initial physical sign of speaking in other tongues (unlearned languages) as the Spirit of God gives them audible expression (Acts_2:4).

http://gatewayassembly.com/content/initial-physical-evidence-baptism-holy-spirit

This is evil, and only comes about when someone is denominationally possessed and refuses to give up their traditions to believe the Bible.

    But since we should already know this is wrong, the main basic theological basis that we need to address in all of this is the foundational summary behind most all Pentecostalism say there is:

One (Holy Spirit) Baptism, and many (subsequent) fillings

Some Basic Questions we have got to tackle

I would say there is a problem with this very small distinction and saying

“The manifestation of tongues can be observed in the life of every Spirit-filled believer at the initial infilling. The audible expression of tongues should also continue to function in the Spirit-filled believer's personal prayer life.”

http://gatewayassembly.com/content/initial-physical-evidence-baptism-holy-spirit – Emphasis added

More:

http://www.buttefullgospelag.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19:8-the-initial-physical-evidence-of-the-baptism-in-the-holy-spirit&catid=19:beliefs&Itemid=54

Review

(1) in April 2009 – We had a Foundational HSP bbs (as I was about to go to Colorado)

(2) 10/18/09 – Most of us got to see a typical example of a seemingly sincere & honest pastor who did not actually agree with the Bible when it finally came down to his opinions and preferences vs. the Bible – this is what actually makes Christians real or not in the end

(3) Now (toward the end of 2010/ beginning of 2011) we have come to a point where we definitely need a, “Part 2” to this Whole Message

(A) I hope to fill up this teaching in greater measure and fulfill some critical conclusions so far

(B) I am not bringing you a “new” teaching, but one that now has great need to be thoroughly covered, perhaps for the first time for many of us

(C) I want to establish you in these expectations to give you righteous fuel in prayer, till we all see light dawn on us, as it did on Pentecost

--------------- Historical Note

The First part of this was originally as follows:

1. Salvation

Below: What is Eternal Life | Common Belief Does not Save | Imitation | Be Saved by Favor

What is Eternal Life

Joh_17:1-5; (also Gal_4:9; 1Jn_5:20) – Know God

Joh_5:24 – believe (also Joh_5:40)

Joh_3:34-36

Joh_6:27

Joh_6:35

Joh_6:40

Joh_6:47-51

Gal_3:26-29

Salvation Did happen before Jesus died and Rose again (most of the references are before that happened, and we need to have the honesty and integrity to admit this and come to terms with it)

Luk_19:8-10 CAB Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord, I give half of my possessions to the poor; and if I have extorted anything from anyone, I restore fourfold."  9  And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham;  10  for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost."

Common Belief Does not Save

Joh_2:23-25 Joh_3:11-12

Joh_6:36; Joh_8:30-36

(Joh_12:37-43; Joh_12:46)

Act_8:13

Jas_2:19-24 – The demons believe

End of John - Applying Scripture and Being spiritual

being prophetic is Biblical

Imitation

my Gospel - Rom_2:16; Rom_16:25; 1Ti_1:11; 2Ti_2:8;

1Co_4:14-16 - children... (a) father through gospel

1Co_11:1 - traditions

Gal_4:10-14 - Be as I am (1Co_10:33)

Php_3:16-18 - not impressed with another way

Heb_6:10-12 - imitate favor

Gal_2:17-18 - "if, while we seek to be justified..."

Maintaining Freshness

people had more dedication to discipleship then

Moses and Joshua

Elijah and Elisha

Paul and Timothy

Patriarchs and their children -do you think that required endurance ?- in the end they still wanted the blessing

Thess church

bad examples not to follow

Saul and Samuel

King who had leprosy

Judas with Jesus

Corinthians and Galatians -temporarily-

cor—be imitators of me

gal—i begg you- become as i am 

The Answer Examples

naomi and ruth

you have need of endur so that after you have done the will of God

Heb_10:32 etc

The Result

1Th_1:6-9 - you did it!; 2Th_3:9 – we have a right to call people to this

Be Saved by Favor

Heb_12:1 (remember: Heb_6:10-12 - imitate favor)

 

 

Filled With The Holy Spirit

Sunday, 12-14-03

 

The Question is not “Am I a Christian?” or (practically speaking) “Am I saved?” the question needs to be: “Do I have the Holy Spirit?” and then “Am I filled with the Holy Spirit?

Þ Testimonies? Þ Go over general scriptures in Act 1 & 2

Joh_7:38-39 EMTV  He that believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly will flow rivers of living water."  39  (But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him were about to receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.)

· “Baptized Holy Spirit”: Mk 1:8, Act_1:5

· Act 8 Philip, (City of Sameria, + Ethiopian Unuch)

· Act 10 & 11 = Cornielious

 

Not Just Tongs ~

 

A. Prophecy = Better

1Co_14:1-21 EMTV  Pursue love, and desire the spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.  2  For he who speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not to men, but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.  3  But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort.  4  He who speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.  5  Now I wish you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you should prophesy; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.

18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;  19  but in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, in order that I may instruct others, rather than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

21  In the law it is written: "With men of other tongues and by strange lips I will speak to this people…

 

Act_2:17-21 EMTV  "And it shall be in the last days", says God, "that I will pour from My Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy; and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;"  18  "And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; and they shall prophesy.  19  And I will give wonders in the heaven above, and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and vapor of smoke.  20  The sun shall be changed into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome Day of the Lord.  21  And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [Ý Joe_2:28-32]

 

B. Tongues or Prophesy

Act_19:6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. (KJV)

1Co_12:10  To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues… 28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues30 KJVA  Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?  31  But covet earnestly the best gifts[ ÝÝ ]…

C. Grace Gifts

Rom_12:3  For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think…

6  Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministry…or … teaching… exhortationhe that ruleth, with diligence… mercy…

 

D. Not Cessationism

Misspellings: Sessationalism

Act_2:39 EMTV  "For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."

 

Purpose:

Act_1:8 EMTV  But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth."

 

 

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Incomplete Salvation

Joh_5:24 EMTV  "Most assuredly I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. [-This was an immediately applicable promise that Jesus extended.]

 

Tongues are good

Mar_16:17  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

1Co_14:39  … do not forbid to speak in tongues.

 

Proof of filling

Act_10:46  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

 

Hebrews = Complete salvation

“after being enlightened fall away no repentance…”

See:  save to the uttermost

 

 

Is a Pilot Light Concept Scripturally Possible?

5/31/16

 

Rom_8:

 

Acts: multiple fillings -- this directly shows that they had the clean spirit in them, but were not always filled

At minimal: after they were filled, there was a pilot light going on in them.

 

But if you have real disciples who are not exhibiting spiritual gifts, or acting like they are filled, there are at least two possibilities that we have identified:

 

 

SHOSP Additions

 

 

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1/19/17

Exo_31:1 WEB  Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,

Exo_31:1 LB Bezalel and Aholiab And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,

Exo_31:1  Καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγων

Exo_31:2 WEB  "Behold, I have called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah:

Exo_31:2 “Behold, I have called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah.

Exo_31:2  Ἰδοὺ ἀνακέκλημαι ἐξ ὀνόματος τὸν Βεσελεηλ τὸν τοῦ Ουριου τὸν Ωρ τῆς φυλῆς Ιουδα

Exo_31:3 WEB  and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,

Exo_31:3 And I have filled him with a divine spirit of wisdom, and understanding, and knowledge, to invent in every work,

Exo_31:3  καὶ ἐνέπλησα αὐτὸν πνεῦμα θεῖον σοφίας καὶ συνέσεως καὶ ἐπιστήμης ἐν παντὶ ἔργῳ

Exo_31:4 WEB  to devise skillful works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,

Exo_31:4 and to frame works, to labor in gold, silver, brass, blue, purple, and spun scarlet,

Exo_31:4  διανοεῖσθαι καὶ ἀρχιτεκτονῆσαι ἐργάζεσθαι τὸ χρυσίον καὶ τὸ ἀργύριον καὶ τὸν χαλκὸν καὶ τὴν ὑάκινθον καὶ τὴν πορφύραν καὶ τὸ κόκκινον τὸ νηστὸν καὶ τὴν βύσσον τὴν κεκλωσμένην

 

1/31/17

 

 

Exo_35:31 WEB  He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship;

Exo_35:31 LB and has filled him with a divine spirit of wisdom and understanding, and knowledge of all things,

Exo_35:31  καὶ ἐνέπλησεν αὐτὸν πνεῦμα θεῖον σοφίας καὶ συνέσεως καὶ ἐπιστήμης πάντων

Exo_35:32 WEB  and to make skillful works, to work in gold, in silver, in brass,

Exo_35:32 to labor skillfully in all works of cunning workmanship to form the gold and the silver and the brass,

Exo_35:32  ἀρχιτεκτονεῖν κατὰ πάντα τὰ ἔργα τῆς ἀρχιτεκτονίας ποιεῖν τὸ χρυσίον καὶ τὸ ἀργύριον καὶ τὸν χαλκὸν

Exo_35:33 WEB  in cutting of stones for setting, and in carving of wood, to work in all kinds of skillful workmanship.

Exo_35:33 and to work in stone, and to fashion the wood, and to work in every work of wisdom.”

Exo_35:33  καὶ λιθουργῆσαι τὸν λίθον καὶ κατεργάζεσθαι τὰ ξύλα καὶ ποιεῖν ἐν παντὶ ἔργῳ σοφίας·

Exo_35:34 WEB  He has put in his heart that he may teach, both he, and Oholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan.

Exo_35:34 And God gave increased understanding, both to him, and to Eliab the son of Ahisamach of the tribe of Dan.

Exo_35:34  καὶ προβιβάσαι γε ἔδωκεν αὐτῷ ἐν τῇ διανοίᾳ, αὐτῷ τε καὶ Ελιαβ τῷ τοῦ Αχισαμακ ἐκ φυλῆς Δαν·

Exo_35:35 WEB  He has filled them with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of workmanship, of the engraver, of the skillful workman, and of the embroiderer, in blue, in purple, in scarlet, and in fine linen, and of the weaver, even of those who do any workmanship, and of those who make skillful works.

Exo_35:35 And God filled them with wisdom, understanding, and perception, to understand to work all the works of the sanctuary, and to weave the woven and embroidered work with scarlet and fine linen, to do all work of curious workmanship and embroidery.

Exo_35:35  ἐνέπλησεν αὐτοὺς σοφίας καὶ συνέσεως διανοίας πάντα συνιέναι ποιῆσαι τὰ ἔργα τοῦ ἁγίου καὶ τὰ ὑφαντὰ καὶ ποικιλτὰ ὑφᾶναι τῷ κοκκίνῳ καὶ τῇ βύσσῳ ποιεῖν πᾶν ἔργον ἀρχιτεκτονίας ποικιλίας.

 

 

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11/1/16

Isa_32:15 WEB  Until the Spirit is poured on us from on high, and the wilderness becomes a fruitful field, and the fruitful field is considered a forest.

Isa_32:15 CAB  until the Spirit shall come upon you from on high, and Carmel shall be desert, and Carmel shall be counted for a forest.

Isa_32:15  ἕως ἂν ἐπέλθῃ ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς πνεῦμα ἀφ᾿ ὑψηλοῦ. καὶ ἔσται ἔρημος ὁ Χερμελ, καὶ ὁ Χερμελ εἰς δρυμὸν λογισθήσεται.

Isa_32:16 Then justice will dwell in the wilderness; and righteousness will remain in the fruitful field.

Isa_32:16 Then judgment shall abide in the wilderness, and righteousness shall dwell in Carmel.

Isa_32:16  καὶ ἀναπαύσεται ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ κρίμα, καὶ δικαιοσύνη ἐν τῷ Καρμήλῳ κατοικήσει·

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Spiritual Gifts

Gifts of the One Spirit Who is Holy

 

·        It goes without saying that the spiritual gifts in the Bible are totally different than what is typically seen in many churches today.

·        It is also very clear that the Bible never permits us to believe that the real spiritual gifts are no longer available for us today (Cessationalism).

·        Therefore, it is heresy to teach that the counterfeits in churches today have anything to do the Bible, and it is also heresy to teach that the spiritual gifts in the Bible are no longer available for real disciples today.

>> Sync: FAQs | SPINT

 

Government and Gifts

Perhaps the most vital part of Church leadership is that which transcends the governmental framework discussed above, which is the leadership based on and qualified by Spiritual Gifting:

 

Eph_4:8, 11-13 KJV  …When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men…  11  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;  12  For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:  13  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

 

Please note: The saints are not yet perfected in the unity of the faith and “of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ” – in other words, we desperately need these gifts in the church because we are so far from the very purpose that they were given! We're not there yet, so we must see these gifts in operation or we'll never get there!

An eternal example of this that should always burn in our minds is that of the corruption of the early church around the time leading up to the council of Nicea (325 AD). By the time major political corruption had set in the church, too many of her members had already grown complacent enough to retain the structure of the government without the gifts in full operation. May this never be said of us!

I wanted to be particularly emphatic to include this aspect of leadership because without it we have a dead framework that produces lifeless converts, no matter how “correct” our church government is organized!

In a practical sense, whether leadership by gifting takes place within the governmental framework, or as a supplement to it, we would be dreadfully negligent to operate without it.

 

About the Spiritual Gifts the Scriptures have clearly spoken, and they have been so very clear that there is no room for error or for mistaking God’s intentions and declarations about how we are to live in light of them:

 

Gifts are for Today

Act_2:1-18; 38-39; compare Act_2:3 with 1Co_12:11 (speaking of gifts) and think of 1Co_12:4, 7:7, 17; Rom_12:4-8; Eph_4:8-13 (quoted above)

There is not one verse at all whatsoever in the entire Bible supporting the doctrine of “Cessationalism” (which basically says that some of or all of the gifts died off with the Apostles), and this point is covered further below.

 

Gifts Given to us as they were to the Apostles

They are given (and made available) to us, in the same way they were to the Apostles

Act_2:1-4, 39; 10:44-46; 11:15, 17; 1Co_12:11; Rom_12:6; Heb_2:4

 

It is Against the Bible to Forbid them

1Ti_4:14-15 - Do not neglect your gift… give yourself wholly to it

1Th_5:19-22 - do not despise prophesies (or quench the Spirit)

1Co_12:31 - Be zealous (ζηλουτε) for the greater gifts

1Co_14:1 - Be zealous (ζηλοῦτε) for gifts (esp. Prophecy)

1Co_14:29 - Let the prophets speak

1Co_14:39 - Don't Forbid Tongues, -and be zealous (ζηλοῦτε) to Prophesy-

1Co_14:31 - “You may all Prophesy…”

 

We are Commanded to be Zealous for them

And as seen above: 1Co_12:31; 1Co_14:1; 1Co_14:39;

 

Also: in Rom_1:10-11 Paul “lusts” to impart Spiritual gifts; (Compare Jas_4:2 where the same word is used in a different way for “bad lust”).

 

They Need to be Done in Order

1Co_14:26-33; 1Co_14:40

 

We are commanded to “Stir them Up”

2Ti_1:6 (also 1Ti_4:14-15)

 

They Define us as parts of the Body of Christ

Rom_12:3-8; 1Co_12:10-31

 

Clean Languages

The Biblical Truth & Real Answer and alternative to Pentecostal “Tongues”

9/25/14; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

Demonic Tongues

"The magician mumbles and knows not what he says; the tanna5  recites and knows not what he says."

http://www.halakhah.com/sotah/sotah_22.html

2/21/17

 

> there is a verse for this as well

 

 

Tongues

Zep 3:9 - one pure language

Stamering lips speak to this people

 

 

 

 

The Gift of Apostleship

todo

Answer this need:

 

"isn't it written that to be an apostle that you had to be witness of his resurrection. Act_1:21-26"

 

1Co_15:5-8 CAB and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.  6  Thereafter He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, of whom the majority remain until now, but some have died.  7  Thereafter He appeared to James, then to all the apostles.  8  And last of all, as of one born out of due time, He appeared to me also.

 

The greatest gift also answers the greatest need in church leadership called Apostleship. The office of Apostle has been set aside as the highest order of church government, and no man can structurally accomplish this, but only God can supernaturally ordain a person this way, and afterward, it is up to the rest of the church to thoroughly and Biblically test such a person to find if they are true or not (Due_13:1-5, 18:20-22; 2Co_11:13-15; 1Jn_4:1-3, 5-6; Rev_2:2).

But there is much confusion and controversy concerning men who seek to “reestablish” apostles over the church, and they have many unnerving and unbiblical suggestions about how to do this. In reaction to this there is widespread confusion among many who think that God only had apostles for a certain “age” in the past, and no longer desires to work that way.

 

Apostolic Age – Whatever Happened to Apostleship?

First, let me clarify some things: The term Apostolic Age, in theological circles, refers to the time in which the 12 Apostles and Paul exercised unparalleled authority over the unified early Church. When someone or something is referred to as Apostolic it means that it carries Scriptural, or almost Scriptural authoritativeness, almost always due to the fact that a person had personally seen Jesus, or at least one of the Apostles themselves. Though this “age” was indeed a special time in which God moved with exceptional supernatural works through chosen men, and is reverenced by even early church leaders, it is reckless and sloppy to say that God intended to stop working through apostles after the twelve died, since this would undermine so many very clear Scriptures!

While the term Apostolic has come to mean something specific and limiting, the word Apostle means nothing of the sort. In fact “ἀπόστολος(apostolos) literally means “sent out one” (as a messenger). But because Jesus was the one who “sent them out,” and because it was God Himself in the flesh that directly approved and delegated authority to them as Apostles over the Church, the term generated some serious potency; (Compare New Testament Authenticated... Apostles). But if we then presume from this that God no longer wants there to be apostles, we might sort of get away with this in English, but this would be as ridiculous in Greek as simply saying that God no longer wants people to be “sent out” since this is exactly what the word means!

The danger has traditionally been that people will confuse the special unparalleled authentication that Jesus gave to the 12 Apostles, and Paul (as shown in New Testament Authenticated... Apostles), with the very office of apostleship itself. In other words, they will not catch the significant difference between “just being an apostle,” and being one of “The Apostles.” They will tend to rashly deny the possibility of anyone obtaining this office, forgetting that the Bible insists that having apostles is how the operation and definition of the Church is supposed to exist!

 

Clarifying Variations of “Apostleship”

Now please understand that I am not for the Catholic idea of “Apostolic Succession”, and neither was even one of those who immediately succeeded the Apostles over the Church. But it is made plane and obvious from Scripture that “apostles” are different from “Apostles” (capital “A”). As referenced earlier, in 2Co_11:5 and 2Co_12:11 Paul used a term “τῶν ὑπερλίαν ἀποστόλων” (tōn huperlian apostolōn) which is translated as “the very chiefest apostles” (KJV) or “those 'super-apostles.'” (ALT). The very fact that Paul would used a term “Super-Apostle” shows that there were apostles that were not “super,” but were indeed just real apostles. This was apparently a term that Paul's readers were familiarized with at some point, which was possibly coined for just such a distinction. And if you need the specific references to these “lesser” apostles (those other than the twelve and Paul) here they are:

 

There Were More than 12 Apostles in the Bible

Other dates; 12/5/16; 1/8/17

 

Old Testament Apostles -- Before the 12

>> Abigale

>> ES Search

·        Exo_3:10, Exo_3:12-15 – Moses (LXX: ἀποστείλω σε – lit. I will apostle you)

·        Many others which are not usually translated in English

 

New Testament Apostles -- Beyond the 12

·        John the Baptist was made an Apostle [ἀποστέλλω] by the prophecies of Malachi and Jesus: Mal_3:1; Mat_11:10

·        Jesus “apostle-d” [ἀπέστειλεν] (fig. sent out) 70 (some say 72A)* other disciples (Luk_10:1, etc.), (and this is the same terminology Luke uses for the 12: ἀπέστειλεν -- Luk_9:1-2)
[Technical Source Text Variation: 70 vs. 72: Most Greek copies say 70 (even incl. Codex Sinaiticus), but some Alexandrian versions say 72 (reportedly incl. Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis). (As usual, Irenaeus agrees with 70 -- & he died c. 202 AD). As Wilbur Pickering (ThM PhD) says, “Perhaps 1% of the Greek manuscripts, of objectively inferior quality, add “two” {i.e. 72} (as in NIV, LB, TEV, etc.), (also in verse 17).”]
See:
The Primitive New Testament = Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis

·        Barnabas is called an apostle: Act (4:36); 14:14; Gal_2:9; 1Co_9:5-6;

·        In 2Co_8:23 various other “brothers” are called “αποστολοι” (apostles) of certain churches;

·        In Phi_2:25, Epaphroditus is called an “αποστολον,” (apostle), but these last two references to apostleship are not usually represented in English translations.

·        In Gal_1:19, James, Jesus’ half-brother, is associated as an apostle.

·        Interestingly, even Jesus Himself is called THE Apostle (αποστολον) in Heb_3:1 because he was “Apostled” from the Father (ἀπέσταλκεν/ἀπέστειλεν) as seen in 1Jn_4:9-10, 1Jn_4:14, etc.

 

After all, if there had only been 12 apostles intended by God from the beginning, then the Church in Ephesus, for example, would have never needed to test other men claiming to be apostles (Rev_2:2), since it would have been as simple as determining that the man in question was not one of the twelve, and this would have been common knowledge. But since they did need to test people to find if they were apostles, this means that it was quite a bit more complicated than saying, “well, you’re not one of the twelve, so we know you’re not an apostle.” The fact that there was a need to test people claiming to be apostles means that the possibility existed of them being a legitimate apostle in addition to the twelve (though subordinate to them). If there were only 12, then this statement about “testing” apostles would seem completely uncalled for.

 

>> Lat: Missiones

>> saying no more apostles is saying no more missionaries

 

Exo_3:10 WEB  Come now therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh, that you may bring forth my people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt."

Exo_3:10 CAB  And now come, I will send you to Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and you shall bring out My people the children of Israel from the land of Egypt.

Exo_3:10  καὶ νῦν δεῦρο ἀποστείλω σε πρὸς Φαραω βασιλέα Αἰγύπτου, καὶ ἐξάξεις τὸν λαόν μου τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου. --

 

Exo_3:12 WEB  He said, "Certainly I will be with you. This will be the token to you, that I have sent you: when you have brought forth the people out of Egypt, you shall serve God on this mountain."

Exo_3:12 CAB  And God spoke to Moses, saying, I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that I shall send you forth: when you bring out My people out of Egypt, then you shall serve God in this mountain.

Exo_3:12  εἶπεν δὲ ὁ θεὸς Μωυσεῖ λέγων ὅτι Ἔσομαι μετὰ σοῦ, καὶ τοῦτό σοι τὸ σημεῖον ὅτι ἐγώ σε ἐξαποστέλλω· ἐν τῷ ἐξαγαγεῖν σε τὸν λαόν μου ἐξ Αἰγύπτου καὶ λατρεύσετε τῷ θεῷ ἐν τῷ ὄρει τούτῳ.

Exo_3:13 Moses said to God, "Behold, when I come to the children of Israel, and tell them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you;' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' What should I tell them?"

Exo_3:13 And Moses said to God, Behold, I shall go forth to the children of Israel, and shall say to them, The God of our fathers has sent me to you; and they will ask me, What is His name? What shall I say to them?

Exo_3:13  καὶ εἶπεν Μωυσῆς πρὸς τὸν θεόν Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐλεύσομαι πρὸς τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ καὶ ἐρῶ πρὸς αὐτούς Ὁ θεὸς τῶν πατέρων ὑμῶν ἀπέσταλκέν με πρὸς ὑμᾶς, ἐρωτήσουσίν με Τί ὄνομα αὐτῷ; τί ἐρῶ πρὸς αὐτούς;

Exo_3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM," and he said, "You shall tell the children of Israel this: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "

Exo_3:14 And God spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING. And He said, Thus shall you say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you.

Exo_3:14  καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεὸς πρὸς Μωυσῆν Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν· καὶ εἶπεν Οὕτως ἐρεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Ὁ ὢν ἀπέσταλκέν με πρὸς ὑμᾶς.

 

Exo_5:22 WEB  Moses returned to Yahweh, and said, "Lord, why have you brought trouble on this people? Why is it that you have sent me?

Exo_5:22 CAB  And Moses turned to the Lord and said, I pray, O Lord, why have You afflicted this people? And why have You sent me?

Exo_5:22  ἐπέστρεψεν δὲ Μωυσῆς πρὸς κύριον καὶ εἶπεν Κύριε, διὰ τί ἐκάκωσας τὸν λαὸν τοῦτον; καὶ ἵνα τί ἀπέσταλκάς με;

Exo_5:23 For since I came to Pharaoh to speak in your name, he has brought trouble on this people; neither have you delivered your people at all."

Exo_5:23 For from the time that I went to Pharaoh to speak in Your name, he has afflicted this people, and You have not delivered Your people.

Exo_5:23  καὶ ἀφ᾿ οὗ πεπόρευμαι πρὸς Φαραω λαλῆσαι ἐπὶ τῷ σῷ ὀνόματι, ἐκάκωσεν τὸν λαὸν τοῦτον, καὶ οὐκ ἐρρύσω τὸν λαόν σου.

 

Proofs of Apostleship

In all of this searching for Biblical Christianity, the fear concerning apostles is the same legitimate concern over all of the other wicked perversions and counterfeits dominating the majority of churches today claiming to have spiritual gifts.  Just as I rarely see legitimate tongues or any other gifts at work in my much involvement with such churches, I have similarly never seen a real apostle as the Bible calls for (as far as I know).

    After all, there are actual requirements and or descriptions that we are given as a means of testing apostles, (as seen below) that are beyond the random ecstatic claim to have been “called an apostle by the holy ghost”, as is so common in flaky polluted soul-based (emotional) churches today, according to the whims and wicked ambitions of men with puffed up imaginations, without a real call from God which would answer to the Biblical calling:

 

2Co_11:13-15 WEB  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as Christ's apostles.  14  And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light.  15  It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

 

But knowing that the Biblical gifting is possible despite the discouragement we can experience from a majority of counterfeits, let us choose to look with faith toward what God has said, rather than shrieking back from truth and clinging to our contemptible experiences which are so often contrary to the Scriptures, and fully set our heart on seeing God’s kingdom come in truth on the earth, the way the Bible describes it, including the aid of apostles, along with all of the gifts. We will know that they are here in truth to serve the Church when they meet the Biblical description:

 

2Co_12:12 WEB  Truly the signs of an apostle were worked among you in all patience, in signs and wonders and mighty worksG1411.


[“mighty works,” that is, “δύναμις” (dúnamis - G1411), or “miracles” as specifically described in Mar
_5:29-30; Mar_6:5; Mar_9:38-39; Luk_4:36; 5:17; 6:19; 8:44-46; 9:1]

 

1Co_4:9-13 WEB  For, I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last of all, like men sentenced to death. For we are made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and men.  10  We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ. We are weak, but you are strong. You have honor, but we have dishonor.  11  Even to this present hour we hunger, thirst, are naked, are beaten, and have no certain dwelling place.  12  We toil, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless. Being persecuted, we endure.  13  Being defamed, we entreat. We are made as the filth of the world, the dirt wiped off by all, even until now.

 

This contrasts sharply with so many of today’s self-proclaimed apostles who can be recognized by their gold rings, expensive cars and big mansions. But we see here that Biblical apostles were consistently found poor, just like their chief Apostle Jesus (Isa_53:2; Mat_8:20, Mat_17:27, Mat_20:28; Mar_6:3; Luk_2:7, Luk_8:3, Luk_9:58; Phi_2:6-8; 2Co_8:9; Heb_3:1).

 

2Co_6:3-10 EMTV  We give no occasion for offense in anything, lest the ministry be blamed,  4  but in everything commending ourselves as ministers of God: in much endurance, in tribulations, in hardships, in distresses,  5  in stripes, in imprisonments, in disturbances, in labors, in sleepless nights, in fastings;  6  in purity, in knowledge, in longsuffering, in kindness, in the Holy Spirit, in sincere [ἀνυποκρίτῳ – un-hypocritical] love,  7  through the word of truth, through the power of God, through the weapons of righteousness on the right hand and on the left hand,  8  by honor and dishonor, by ill repute and good repute; as deceivers, and yet true;  9  as being unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold, we live; as being disciplined, and not being put to death;  10  as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

 

Rom_15:18-19 EMTV  For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ did not work out through me, in word and deed, for the obedience of the Gentiles--  19  in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God, so that from Jerusalem and as far as Illyricum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

 

But in all of this hardship, with the glory of the miraculous at work, when people are obedient to the faith in truth, he says to those who have believed:

 

1Co_9:2 WEB  If to others I am not an apostle, yet at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

 

--------------- DUPLICATES??? \/

Apostolic Thoughts:

- Show how much suffer Act_9:16

- Dye to self now

- Some things that God bears with now, which is not optional later.

- If you are a quick leader beware:

God uses weak people because of their poverty, but if He uses strong people it is in spite of their strength and it requires more brokenness.

 

I plan to add these to my FAQs sometime (hopefully soon)…

 

The signs of an apostle:

2Co_12:12

Rom_15:18-19

1Co_9:1-2 (sadly, many people suspect this with Act_1:20-22 to indicate one has to "see" Jesus to be an apostle)

 

Kingdome truly come When Signs are there

(Mat 12:28)

Luk_11:20

 

Not Word Only, But Power Demonstration:

1Co_2:4

1Th_1:5

1Co_4:19-20

/\ another verse we did not talk about yet

 

- If no miracles yet, do not despair: Quiet preparation has never been an indication of the volume of your time of exaltation

 

Don't despise "Small Beginnings":

Zec 4:10 WEB  Indeed, who despises the day of small things? For these seven shall rejoice, and shall see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. These are the eyes of Yahweh, which run back and forth through the whole earth."

--------------- DUPLICATES??? /\

 

 

 

Defining and Addressing Cessationism

Other dates (2008 and onward); 3/17/17

Tags: cesationalism Cessationalism

 

>> See: SPI | LO | RAS

 

Cessationalism is basically the belief that some or all of the Spiritual Gifts (chárisma -“χάρισμα”) died off with the Apostles. This is a doctrine developed and totally dependent on the assumption that, “since we don't see any spiritual gifts in operation that we consider real, they must have stopped being given.” I say this because there is not one thread of Scriptural support that one can reasonably use to support this wicked error. So in defiance and rebellion to the abundant Scriptures shown above, a significant portion of old-school church theologians for the love of dead religion, have split themselves off in heresy from the normative (normal) Biblical teaching to deny the gift* or gifts of the Holy Spirit, just as it says:

 

2Ti_3:5 EMTV  having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from these people turn away!

 

[* By saying, “the gift” I am referring to the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, as in Joh_4:10, Joh_13-14; Joh_7:37-39; Act_2:21-21; Act_2:38-39; Act_8:14-20; Act_10:45]

 

It then goes to figure that since Cessationalism is a doctrine totally based outside of (and in rebellion against) the dictates of the Bible, it could only be proven by experience, but the most authoritative experience would be that of the early Church. Cessationalists then claim that the Early Church experienced a cessation from the gifts, but they have based this on unauthoritative quotes from men without integrity. I invite the reader to examine the following quote from one of the most important figures in Church history, Irenaeus, and to see if they (after the 12 Apostles had all died) thought that the gifts were diminishing or had stopped altogether:

 

...Wherefore, also, those who are in truth His disciples, receiving grace from Him, do in His name perform [miracles], so as to promote the welfare of other men, according to the gift which each one has received from Him. For some do certainly and truly drive out devils, so that those who have thus been cleansed from evil spirits frequently both believe [in Christ], and join themselves to the Church. Others have foreknowledge of things to come: they see visions, and utter prophetic expressions. Others still, heal the sick by laying their hands upon them, and they are made whole. Yea, moreover, as I have said, the dead even have been raised up, and remained among us for many years. And what shall I more say? It is not possible to name the number of the gifts which the Church, [scattered] throughout the whole world, has received from God, in the name of Jesus Christ, who was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and which she exerts day by day for the benefit of the Gentiles, neither practising deception upon any, nor taking any reward (Comp. Act_8:9, Act_8:18) from them on account of such miraculous interpositions]. For as she has received freely (Mat_10:8) from God, freely also does she minister [to others].

 

(Irenaeus 180 AD; Chap. XXXII, Paragraph 4)

 

Notice that by the time that this was written: 1. The Apostles had all died, 2. The New Testament had already been completed and was basically in common circulation among the Church (though not bound as one book).

There are many other quotes testifying to this same thing, but I was sure to include Irenaeus since he is the most authoritative person from Church history of his time, being the third disciple from the Apostle John himself, (since John discipled Polycarp, and then Polycarp discipled Irenaeus).

There are those in history who are quoted in support of Cessationalism, but I've yet to find ONE reliable, godly writer for them to quote rather than the heretical, worldly, and later church leaders.

It is not as though “The Early Church” experienced a Cessation from the gifts, but rather that the later corrupted political “church” experienced a Cessation from Jesus.  It is only natural that some later unauthoritative church leaders seemed to think that some gifts had diminished slightly, since they had been walking away from the One who gives them.

 

Let us then see to it that we neither die as they have died, without spiritual gifts advancing the kingdom of God, nor that we sin with adulterous affinities by embracing the wicked counterfeits being promoted today in various churches.

We have got to take hold of real true Biblical spiritual gifts, from apostleship to prophecy, all the way down to tongues if we are ever going to see Jesus’ kingdom come in any way in our life time to our generations:

 

Luk_11:20 KJVR  But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

 

Mat_10:7-8 EMTV  And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'  8  "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

 

Mar_16:15-18 EMTV  And He said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to all creation.  16  He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that does not believe shall be condemned.  17  And these signs shall accompany those who have believed: In My name they shall cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;  18  they shall pick up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it shall by no means hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall be well."

 

Also See: (Personal) Spiritual Gifts; [Back to Contents]

 

Prophet

 

-- under construction --

 

The Wrong Definition of a Prophet

9/6/04 (Original title: A PROPHET; Word: Created); 12/27/04 (Word: Modified);

 

Why do we call people prophets today?  In this culture and age it is often for a bad selfish reason.

We see that another person has higher standards than us, and we are astranged as to why they would take such a higher standard, and we are numbly convicted.  So to avoid having to admit error and humbly change, we instead try to define them in to a cadigory that we can claim to understand.  By doing so we anul their rightness over us, and wedge ourselves over them.  We define them as a prophet so as to userp a higher claim over them because inwardly we percieve that their moral stand is higher than ours.  Whoever we define, we also controle, and we are over them as long as we say who they are, and have a lot in manipulating the authority of what they say.  We attempt to define them in a high position such as a prophet, but only so everyone else believes that this prophet gets his greatness from the one who defines him.  We know that what they say is greater than what we do, so out of insecurity and fear of being controled by them and forced to change by a more rightous standard, we in a desporate atempt to cover up our error, attempt to undermine the truth of what the rightous speaker says by focusing on the humanitie of the speaker instead of the styeady Truth of God. 

Self defence

Unconcious

“The Prophet’s standard is higher than what is required of me”!  God’s going to accept me as I am

“You’re a prophet and prophets just do this and do that” “You can’t your self your just stuck in that one way of thinking”

-What are you? An apostle? (that is the only church position greater)

 

 

     This is what a Pope did in the later part of the first century

 

 

 

We will often call a person a prophet because we think that they are subject to some pitiful worldview that disables them from seeing things in a wise and practical way.  What is wrong with us?!  We do this without any biblical concept of the very nature of a prophet.

     Do you remember what a prophet was originally called before they were called “prophets”? A prophet used to be called a “Seer.”

In that day prophets were called “seers”

And God gives them the highest reliability as those who accuratly portray the True heart of God

Surly does nothing with out revealing to prophets

 

Pardon my sarcasm, but do you think they were called “Seers” because they could not see, and because they were impaired by some extremist disconnection with reality?  -No of course not!  They were called “Seers” because they SAW. The direct implication was that they saw what others did not see.  They did not see less than others because of their mindset, they saw more because they saw with God’s eyes and not that of humans.  How insanely and anti-biblicaly foolish of us to make the word “prophet” mean the opposite of what God defines it to be, by saying “You are just saying that because you are a prophet. But I think God wants us to use wisdom.”

     Some who apparently don’t read God’s Words that much may propose that the New Testament prophets are different than the old and so these verses don’t apply.  I suppose that under this logic, a better covenant would somehow make weaker more whimsical and pathetic prophecies. But we can be assured that the scriptures uphold the same Truth ascribing the utmost reliability to prophets, as the ones have the clearest picture of what God’s standards are.

If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual…

 

Prophets are not mean-spirited pessimistic people.  They are those who here what God says, and then say it.  If the situation is truly grim, then it is not because the prophets ‘prophetic personality’ that he speaks heavy burdensome words. Interesting that “the word of the Lord” is translated as “the burden” of the Lord by the KJV (Ex Is 19:1, Jer_23:33-40 KJV). 

     But a prophet who speaks prophetically does not do so because of his personality, but according to the reality that God has spoken to him.  Some would say that my words are heavy and burdensome, but I know of no one that I have ever met who has as much hope as I have been given for the church.  Yes I’ve been accused many times by most people who know me, as being a prophet.  But I have no quenching whatsoever of the great hope I have for change and repentance within the church.

     Hope is not how much you dilute yourself to believe that things are looking good, but that faith that God gives you, based on reality, that He can bring the heart that seems the hardest to repentance.  It is out of this hope that I am motivated to keep writing.  I am driven by this hope to keep appealing to the church with the Truth because I believe that things can change by faith in His Words.

     The counterfeit hope is a false cancerous gospel that basically says, “Everyone is saved, who thinks he believes in Jesus.”  I have seen over and over the depressing effects of that gospel, and how deadly it is.  It is not of hope, but a seal of doom and depression producing sin and apostasy and failure.  It is a machine that enables people to totally and completely condemn themselves unto utter darkness, diving into destructive heresies.  It is a sickening pretense denying reality and embracing sinful lusts.

 

 

 

Jer_23:33-36 KJVR  And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.  34  And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house.  35  Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbor, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken?  36  And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

 

37Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken?  38  But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD;  39  Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:  40  And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.

 

 

 

NO Flesh!

Do NOT Walk According to the Flesh

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

‎2/‎26/‎09; 8/25/09; 9/11/09; 7/8/11; 7/26/11; 9/8/11-9/10/11; 2/18/12; 2/24/12; 3/4/12; 3/17/12; 4/12/12; 9/28/12; 11/23/12; 8/30/14 (Get Law on Heart); 9/4/14 (Ay); 2/21/17

 

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TODO/ Additions! -- NO Flesh

 

The flesh often pretends to be more merciful than the truth

6/2/15; 12/19/15; 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

1Ki_20:1-43

 

>>Scrip: get behind me satan!

 

 

Get Law on Heart and Default to Righteousness!

8/30/14; 9/4/14 (Ay);

Perusing What is Spiritual

 

Background: An Old Testament Wish For Internal Law

·        Num_11:24-29 – Moses wished everyone would prophesy(Eldad and Medad prophesying and Joshua was concerned for Moses)

·        Jesus had disciples who were not filled at first (might sometimes have felt like Moses...)

·        Act_2:1-13 – Then Moses' wish came true at Pentecost (based on prophesy that ‘I’ll pour out my Spirit on all flesh’)

 

Romans 2 – A Law Unto THEMSELVES!

 

Rom_2:12-16 CAB  For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law  13  (for not the hearers of the law are righteous with God, but the doers of the law shall be justified;  14  for whenever Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law unto themselves,  15  who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience witnessing with them, and among themselves their thoughts accuse or even defend them),  16  in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men according to my gospel through Jesus Christ.

Rom_2:12-16 iGNTtr - Grm  12  σοι As Many As G3745 K-NPM  γρ For G1063 CONJ  νόμως Without Law G460 ADV  μαρτον Sinned, G264 V-2AAI-3P  νόμως Without Law G460 ADV  κα Also G2532 CONJ  πολονται Shall Perish; G622 V-FMI-3P  κα And G2532 CONJ  σοι As Many As G3745 K-NPM  ν In G1722 PREP  νόμ Law G3551 N-DSM  μαρτον Sinned, G264 V-2AAI-3P  δι By G1223 PREP  νόμου Law G3551 N-GSM  κριθήσονται· Shall Be Judged G2919 V-FPI-3P  13  ο for G3756 PRT-N  γρ Not G1063 CONJ  ο The G3588 T-NPM  κροατα Hearers G202 N-NPM  το Of The G3588 T-GSM  νόμου Law Are G3551 N-GSM  δίκαιοι Just G1342 A-NPM  παρ With G3844 PREP  τ G3588 T-DSM  θε God, G2316 N-DSM  λλ' But G235 CONJ  ο The G3588 T-NPM  ποιητα Doers G4163 N-NPM  το Of The G3588 T-GSM  νόμου Law G3551 N-GSM  δικαιωθήσονται Shall Be Justified G1344 V-FPI-3P  14  ταν For G3752 CONJ  γρ When G1063 CONJ  θνη Nations G1484 N-NPN  τ Which G3588 T-NPN  μ Not G3361 PRT-N  νόμον Law G3551 N-ASM  χοντα Have G2192 V-PAP-NPN  φύσει By Nature G5449 N-DSF  τ The Things G3588 T-APN  το Of The G3588 T-GSM  νόμου Law G3551 N-GSM  ποι, Practise, G4160 V-PAS-3S  οτοι These, G3778 D-NPM  νόμον Law G3551 N-ASM  μ Not G3361 PRT-N  χοντες Having, G2192 V-PAP-NPM  αυτος To Themselves G1438 F-3DPM  εσιν Are G1526 V-PXI-3P  νόμος· A Law; G3551 N-NSM  15  οτινες Who G3748 R-NPM  νδείκνυνται Show G1731 V-PMI-3P  τ The G3588 T-ASN  ργον Work G2041 N-ASN  το Of The G3588 T-GSM  νόμου Law G3551 N-GSM  γραπτν Written G1123 A-ASN  ν In G1722 PREP  τας Their G3588 T-DPF  καρδίαις Hearts, G2588 N-DPF  ατν Bearing G846 P-GPM  συμμαρτυρούσης Witness With G4828 V-PAP-GSF  ατν Their G846 P-GPM  τς G3588 T-GSF  συνειδήσεως Conscience G4893 N-GSF  κα And G2532 CONJ  μεταξ Between G3342 ADV  λλήλων One Another G240 C-GPM  τν The G3588 T-GPM  λογισμν Reasonings G3053 N-GPM  κατηγορούντων Accusing G2723 V-PAP-GPM  Or G2228 PRT  κα Also G2532 CONJ  πολογουμένων Defending; G626 V-PNP-GPM  16  ν In G1722 PREP  μέρ A Day G2250 N-DSF  τε When G3753 ADV  κρίνει G2919 V-FAI-3S G2919 V-PAI-3S  Shall Judge G3588 T-NSM  θες God G2316 N-NSM  τ The G3588 T-APN  κρυπτ Secrets G2927 A-APN  τν G3588 T-GPM  νθρώπων Of Men, G444 N-GPM  κατ According To G2596 PREP  τ My G3588 T-ASN  εαγγέλιόν Glad G2098 N-ASN  μου Tidings G3450 P-1GS  δι By G1223 PREP  ησο Jesus G2424 N-GSM  Χριστο Christ. G5547 N-GSM

 

Rom_2:26-29 CAB  Therefore, if a Gentile keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?  27  And will not the physically uncircumcised, who fulfills the law, judge you along with your written code and circumcision, a transgressor of the law?  28  For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in flesh;  29  but he is a Jew that is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, in spirit, not in letter, whose praise is not of men but of God.

Rom_2:26-29 iGNTtr - Grm  26  ἐὰν If G1437 COND  ον Therefore G3767 CONJ  The G3588 T-NSF  κροβυστία Uncircumcision G203 N-NSF  τ The G3588 T-APN  δικαιώματα Requirements G1345 N-APN  το Of The G3588 T-GSM  νόμου Law G3551 N-GSM  φυλάσσ Keep G5442 V-PAS-3S  οχί Not G3780 PRT-I  His G3588 T-NSF  κροβυστία G203 N-NSF  ατο Uncircumcision G846 P-GSM  ες For G1519 PREP  περιτομν Circumcision G4061 N-ASF  λογισθήσεται Shall Be Reckoned? G3049 V-FPI-3S  27  κα And G2532 CONJ  κρινε Shall Judge G2919 V-FAI-3S  The G3588 T-NSF  κ By G1537 PREP  φύσεως Nature G5449 N-GSF  κροβυστία Uncircumcision, G203 N-NSF  τν The G3588 T-ASM  νόμον Law G3551 N-ASM  τελοσα Fulfilling, G5055 V-PAP-NSF  σ Thee G4571 P-2AS  τν Who G3588 T-ASM  δι With G1223 PREP  γράμματος Letter G1121 N-GSN  κα And G2532 CONJ  περιτομς Circumcision Art G4061 N-GSF  παραβάτην A Transgressor G3848 N-ASM  νόμου Of Law? G3551 N-GSM  28  ο For G3756 PRT-N  γρ Not G1063 CONJ  G3588 T-NSM  ν He That  Is One  G1722 PREP  τ G3588 T-DSN  φανερ Outwardly G5318 A-DSN  ουδαός A Jew G2453 A-NSM  στιν Is, G2076 V-PXI-3S  οδ Neither G3761 ADV  G3588 T-NSF  ν That G1722 PREP  τ G3588 T-DSN  φανερ Outwardly G5318 A-DSN  ν In G1722 PREP  σαρκ Flesh Is G4561 N-DSF  περιτομή Circumcision; G4061 N-NSF  29  λλ' But G235 CONJ  G3588 T-NSM  ν He That Is G1722 PREP  τ G3588 T-DSN  κρυπτ Hiddenly G2927 A-DSN  ουδαος A Jew  Is One ; G2453 A-NSM  κα And G2532 CONJ  περιτομ Of G4061 N-NSF  καρδίας Heart, G2588 N-GSF  ν In G1722 PREP  πνεύματι Spirit, G4151 N-DSN  ο Not G3756 PRT-N  γράμματι In Letter; G1121 N-DSN  ο Of Whom G3739 R-GSM  The G3588 T-NSM  παινος Praise Is G1868 N-NSM  οκ Not G3756 PRT-N  ξ Of G1537 PREP  νθρώπων Men, G444 N-GPM  λλ' G235 CONJ  κ But G1537 PREP  το Of G3588 T-GSM  θεο God. G2316 N-GSM

 

So, is this “a law unto yourselves” a license for us to have personal guidance spirits, or a personal responsibility of managing yourselves in law so that no one has to come along and force you to do the things written in the law??

 

2 Corinthians 3 – where is the Law Written Now?

2Co_3:2-18 (esp. 2Co_3:6-11, 2Co_3:17-18)

 

Galatians 4 – When Truth Comes You No Longer Need A Schoolmaster

Gal_4:1-9 – Slaves/underage child vs. a son who has come of age and no longer needs the rod

 

1 Corinthians 9 – Become All Things To All Men – Under Favor, Not Law

To the lawless I became lawless

Become all things to all men (esp v 1Co_9:21 – yet not becoming lawless himself)

 

1Co_9:19-23 CAB  For being free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, in order that I might win the more;  20  and to the Jews I became as a Jew, in order that I might win Jews; to those who are under law, as under law, in order that I might win those who are under law;  21  to those ·outside the law [νόμοις], as ·one outside the law [νομος] (not being ·outside the law [νομος] toward God, but [λλ'] ·subject to the law [ννομος] toward Christ), in order that I might win [κερδήσω] those ·outside the law [νόμους];  22  to the weak I became as weak, in order that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.  23  Now this I do for the sake of the gospel, in order that I may become a partaker of it with you.

1Co_9:19-23 iGNTtr - Grm  19  λεύθερος G1658 A-NSM  γρ For Free G1063 CONJ  ν Being G5607 V-PXP-NSM  κ From G1537 PREP  πάντων All, G3956 A-GPM  πσιν To All G3956 A-DPM  μαυτν Myself G1683 F-1ASM  δούλωσα I Became Bondman, G1402 V-AAI-1S  να That G2443 CONJ  τος The G3588 T-APM  πλείονας More G4119 A-APM-C  κερδήσω· I Might Gain. G2770 V-AAS-1S  20  κα And G2532 CONJ  γενόμην I Became G1096 V-2ADI-1S  τος To The G3588 T-DPM  ουδαίοις Jews G2453 A-DPM  ς As G5613 ADV  ουδαος A Jew, G2453 A-NSM  να That G2443 CONJ  ουδαίους Jews G2453 A-APM  κερδήσω· I Might Gain : G2770 V-AAS-1S  τος To Those G3588 T-DPM  π Under G5259 PREP  νόμον Law G3551 N-ASM  ς As G5613 ADV  π Under G5259 PREP  νόμον Law, G3551 N-ASM  να That G2443 CONJ  τος Those G3588 T-APM  π Under G5259 PREP  νόμον Law G3551 N-ASM  κερδήσω· I Might Gain : G2770 V-AAS-1S  21  τος To Those G3588 T-DPM  νόμοις Without Law G459 A-DPM  ς As G5613 ADV  νομος Without Law, G459 A-NSM  μ Not G3361 PRT-N  ν Being G5607 V-PXP-NSM  νομος Without Law G459 A-NSM  θε To God, G2316 N-DSM  λλ' But G235 CONJ  ννομος Within Law G1772 A-NSM  Χριστ To Christ, G5547 N-DSM  να That G2443 CONJ  κερδήσω I Might Gain G2770 V-AAS-1S  νόμους· Those Without Law. G459 A-APM  22  γενόμην I Became G1096 V-2ADI-1S  τος To The G3588 T-DPM  σθενέσιν Weak G772 A-DPM  ς As G5613 ADV  σθενής Weak, G772 A-NSM  να That G2443 CONJ  τος The G3588 T-APM  σθενες Weak G772 A-APM  κερδήσω· I Might Gain. G2770 V-AAS-1S  τος G3588 T-DPM  πσιν To All These G3956 A-DPM  γέγονα I Have Become G1096 V-2RAI-1S  τ G3588 T-NPN  πάντα All Things, G3956 A-NPN  να That G2443 CONJ  πάντως By All Means G3843 ADV  τινς Some G5100 X-APM  σώσω I Might Save. G4982 V-AAS-1S  23  τοτο This G5124 D-ASN  δ And G1161 CONJ  ποι I Do G4160 V-PAI-1S  δι On Account Of G1223 PREP  τ The G3588 T-ASN  εαγγέλιον Glad Tidings, G2098 N-ASN  να That G2443 CONJ  συγκοινωνς A Fellow Partaker G4791 A-NSM  ατο With It G846 P-GSN  γένωμαι I Might Be. G1096 V-2ADS-1S

 

Not under law, but under favor – which causes you to have a law written on your heart

 

Defaulting To What Is Right

You should somewhere be defaulting to what is right... Yes it is a battle striving against sin (Heb_12:4), and, we need to put off the old man (Col_3:9-10 / Eph_4:20-24), but something RIGHT should constantly be a defaulting life (of righteousness) inside your Law-Inscribed heart!!

 

Exhortations We Should Not Even Have To Say...

As Paul is concerned for the Corinthians, we should care for each other

 

·        Don’t Drive your zeal beyond the speed limit of your skillset/ability to drive (you should automatically be humbling yourself so much that you don’t even come close to that!)

·        Don’t assume you are the good guy – if you would judge yourself, you would not be judged! (1Co_11:31)

·        Understand what you are actually doing long before you think you understand what someone else is doing

·        Be more motivated by finding out how you are wrong, rather than by finding out “how other people are wrong”

·        Don't be bold/audacious to each other

·        Don't trust the fool-hearty folly of your own perception

·        Don't spend too much

·        'Think / perceive more' -- ‘do you not yet perceive?’ (Mat_16:8-12 – how do you not perceive; Mar_6:52 – they did not understand about the loaves because their heart was hard). You should have a default of softness

·        Indulge less, lust less… -- Rom_7:7 – I would not have known lust unless the law had said, "no lust"

·        Don't gobble down your food so fast…
i.e. chew long enough to enjoy it, and reverently relish each potential unit of taste in it, bringing it entirely unto thanksgiving for the quality of substance which God has given it ...
Even as Jesus says, ‘see that none of it is wasted’ (Joh_6:12 – pick up fragments that nothing may be lost)

·        Ultimately, when faith is finished, we should not ever even have to say, "please be a Titus to me... I desperately need encouragement and strength now..." (i.e. Recognize when it is your time to be afflicted and when it is your time to heal others in spite of your affliction... (Which you CAN do if you really love people and believe truth about them!))

 

Hebrews 5 – You Ought To Be Teachers By Now... Train Your Senses!

Heb_5:11-14 CAB  concerning whom we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become sluggish in hearing.  12  For indeed, although you ought to be teachers by this time, again you have need for someone to teach you what are the elements of the beginning of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.  13  For everyone who partakes of milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.  14  But solid food is for the mature, for those because of their practice have their senses trained for the distinguishing of both good and evil.

Heb_5:11-14 iGNTtr - Grm  11  Περ Concerning G4012 PREP  ο Whom Is G3739 R-GSM  πολς Much G4183 A-NSM  μν G2254 P-1DP  G3588 T-NSM  λόγος Our Discourse G3056 N-NSM  κα And G2532 CONJ  δυσερμήνευτος Difficult In Interpretation G1421 A-NSM  λέγειν To Speak, G3004 V-PAN  πε Since G1893 CONJ  νωθρο Sluggish G3576 A-NPM  γεγόνατε Ye Have Become G1096 V-2RAI-2P  τας G3588 T-DPF  κοας In Hearing. G189 N-DPF  12  κα G2532 CONJ  γρ For Truly G1063 CONJ  φείλοντες  When Ye  Ought G3784 V-PAP-NPM  εναι To Be G1511 V-PXN  διδάσκαλοι Teachers G1320 N-NPM  δι Because Of G1223 PREP  τν The G3588 T-ASM  χρόνον Time, G5550 N-ASM  πάλιν Again G3825 ADV  χρείαν Need G5532 N-ASF  χετε Ye Have G2192 V-PAI-2P  το G3588 T-GSM  διδάσκειν Of One To Teach G1321 V-PAN  μς You G5209 P-2AP  τιν What Are G5101 I-NPN  τ The G3588 T-NPN  στοιχεα Elements G4747 N-NPN  τς Of The G3588 T-GSF  ρχς Beginning G746 N-GSF  τν Of The G3588 T-GPN  λογίων Oracles G3051 N-GPN  το G3588 T-GSM  θεο Of God, G2316 N-GSM  κα And G2532 CONJ  γεγόνατε Have Become G1096 V-2RAI-2P  χρείαν Need G5532 N-ASF  χοντες Having G2192 V-PAP-NPM  γάλακτος Of Milk, G1051 N-GSN  κα And G2532 CONJ  ο Not G3756 PRT-N  στερες Of Solid G4731 A-GSF  τροφς Food; G5160 N-GSF  13  πς G3956 A-NSM  γρ For Everyone G1063 CONJ  That G3588 T-NSM  μετέχων Partakes G3348 V-PAP-NSM  γάλακτος Of Milk G1051 N-GSN  πειρος Is Unskilled G552 A-NSM  λόγου In The Word G3056 N-GSM  δικαιοσύνης Of Righteousness, G1343 N-GSF  νήπιος An Infant G3516 A-NSM  γάρ For G1063 CONJ  στιν· He Is; G2076 V-PXI-3S  14  τελείων G5046 A-GPM  δέ But For The Fully Grown G1161 CONJ  στιν Is G2076 V-PXI-3S  G3588 T-NSF  στερε Solid G4731 A-NSF  τροφή Food, G5160 N-NSF  τν Who G3588 T-GPM  δι On Account Of G1223 PREP  τν G3588 T-ASF  ξιν Habit G1838 N-ASF  τ The G3588 T-APN  ασθητήρια Senses G145 N-APN  γεγυμνασμένα Exercised G1128 V-RPP-APN  χόντων Have G2192 V-PAP-GPM  πρς For G4314 PREP  διάκρισιν Distinguishing G1253 N-ASF  καλο Good G2570 A-GSN  τε Both G5037 PRT  κα And G2532 CONJ  κακο Evil. G2556 A-GSN

 

Me-Centered Christianity

Today’s purpose is for you to get delivered from Me Centered Christianity

12/15/01 (Sat); 2/20/17 (recompiled)

 

 

First:  Tell me about  ME C. CH.

 

1.  Problem:   Þ Often leads to Religion

 

RO 10:3 ...they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness.

 

2 things:   1. Don’t become one   &    2. Don’t approve of those  whom GOD has not approved

 

Epitome of (unsaved) ‘Me Cent. Ch.’:

 

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Man, I’ve learned so much during my walk with the Lord. I know I

My name is _______        still smoke but no one is perfect.

 

They’re:

-Unteachable & hard hearted, so no admit fakeness

-hooked on ‘I’m saved’ -(GOD no give him that confidence, wile in sin)-

(Often bums)  -No entrust self to them: 

 

JN 2:23

Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name. [24] But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all men. [25] He did not need man's testimony about man, for he knew what was in a man.

 

-They no change Þ‘faith in god’ no based on BIBLE but on them selves; their experience.’ they had.

2PE_2:3

In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

-Often what New age teaching is based on: “Me”

-But we have to make sure that we don’t have any of these unsaved traits- ...

 

 

2. What we can have:

 

Don’t be offended:  (Josh Scripture)

 

PR 12:16 A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

 

-Turn other cheek:

-Very important to find any and every excuse not to be offended

B/C usually not intended. (Usually perceiver’s ‘fault’) /Cultural stuff.

 

Humbly make your daily motivations and aspirations based on Him:

 

JUD_1:24 To him who is able to keep you from falling...

 

-Why Do you hag out with friends (Social ‘life’ or know JESUS)?

-Are you a ‘student for Jesus’ or a Holy ambassador of the Kingdom of Heaven & bond servant of JESUS who happens to do student work.

-What really living for?

 

 

 

 

Selfishness:

“I think I can be a super spiritual pastor”

 

GAL_5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; [20] idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions [21] and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

-Selfish Ambitions: Prideful plans for the future (Big Plans: Pride -Vs- GOD inspired)

(‘Fallow your heart,’ ‘live out your dreams,’ ‘believe in your self’ ...)

 

You have heard:

 

PHP_2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. [4] Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.

JAS_3:14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. [15] Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. [16] For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.

 

Sum:

-Often leads to Religion

-Don‘t  entrust to self to fruitless ‘Ch’

-Don’t base confidence of salvation on feeling/experience, but on the BIBLE

-Don’t be offended; give grace

-Live daily life with JESUS in mind as #1

-Don’t be a ME CH, be a JESUS Christian

 

 

 

 

Random Nugets

 

It is Confident - Despise it

>> Fear God bbs in repent of Words????

2Pe_2:9-10 – walk after it… self sufficient [αὐθάδεις = αὐθ- self, άδεις- pleasing (as in hedonism) – as in v. 2Pe_2:13]

2Pe_2:16-19 – flesh is confident, nervy, boastful, filthy

2Pe_2:18 – something to escape from

 

 

Hating

Rom_8:7 - carnal mind

Joh_7:7 - hates Jesus

Jas_4:4-5 - friendship world

1Jn_2:15-17 - Love world

2Ch_19:2 - love them that hate the Lord?

Deu_7:10 - Reward for hating

> Hate own soul Luk_14:25-35

 

more: 2Ti_3:4; Jam_4:4; 1Jo_2:15, 1Jo_2:16

 

 

Blessed when no Flesh

Mat_16:17

 

Mere Men

1Co_3:1-3

Mat_16:23,

Joh_3:6;

 

Flesh Brings Spiritual Weakness

Mat_26:41;

 

Oppose Flesh

crucified

they seek to glory in your flesh

 

Success in Persecution

 

Evident Token

Php_1:28-30 KJV  And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.  29  For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;  30  Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.

 

Teaching

Are you being discipled by Faith or Flesh?

Got to accept by faith...

- Jesus on Marriage Mat 19/ Mark 10/ Lk 16

- Paul on marriage Eph 5; 1 Cor 7;

- Ager's mother on Justice as a King (Pro 31)

 

Examples

- YP Positions

- Men speaking of Women or vice versa

- In the flesh we want someone who is qualified by the flesh because the flesh is unwilling to accept anything, even truth, by faith.

- We are suposed to be teaching and being discipled by faith, otherwise we are being discipled by the flesh

- Don't give me someone who has qualifications in the flesh, but rather, give me someone who knows truth and is qualified by the testimony of God, and is sent to preach God's Words unto me.

Foolish Fleshly qualifications are vanity and worthless. the only thing that matters is Truth. Otherwise you will never hear what God has to say when He hides His words in the mouth of a child (Jer_1:5...)

- Don't forget what God says and hypocritically claim to respect Jerimiah but not listen to the unqualified when they bring you truth.

2/4/2009 1:11 PM

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If you can except it from a professional but not uneducated Jesus, then you have profited nothing!

 

Why?

Word no profit if not by faith:

Heb_4:2

 

The only thing that should ever be mixed with the Word of God is faith, because it is of the same divine substance and will by no means defile it.

2/4/2009 1:16 PM

 

Meditations

 

Being a defender of the flesh is Satan worship.

4/4/09

 

The flesh says 'my sin is not my responcibility.' - 'You made me angrey'

Well if it is not your fault that you were angry what are you sugesting? God was evil for making you so that you were forced to sin?

- if truth has to be presented to you nicly for you to except it, to the same degree you are not following Jesus (Jn 6)

 

The flesh means having the capacity* to harden your heart, and justify it.

* You need not even practice it at this very moment, but if you just maintain the ability to do so, or you show the pattern of doing so, I am terified over you and fear for your soul!  We must radically deconstruct and demolish every ability to successfully harden our heart. I have seen many people where you are right now, who maintained this ability, though they were fresh and eager to follow Jesus, and most of them are dead now because they never lost the ability and skill of hardening their heart.

 

Heb 3

hardened... evil heart

 

When asked to leave: "My concious is clear"

 

1Ti_4:1-2; Eph_4:19-27

They claim to know God: Tit_1:16

 

read other writing from insp.

 

Don’t Follow Jesus when it is Popular

Why? Because Jesus will one day make it unpopular

Let’s get this over with and cut through all of the partial and shallow commitment

 

Jos_24:15-24 Brenton  But if it seem not good to you to serve the Lord, choose to yourselves this day whom ye will serve, whether the gods of your fathers that were on the other side of the river, or the gods of the Amorites, among whom ye dwell upon their land: but I and my house will serve the Lord, for he is holy.  16  And the people answered and said, Far be it from us to forsake the Lord, so as to serve other gods.  17  The Lord our God, he is God; he brought up us and our fathers from Egypt, and kept us in all the way wherein we walked, and among all the nations through whom we passed.  18  And the Lord cast out the Amorite, and all the nations that inhabited the land from before us: yea, we will serve the Lord, for he is our God.  19  And Joshua said to the people, Indeed ye will not be able to serve the Lord, for God is holy; and he being jealous will not forgive your sins and your transgressions.  20  Whensoever ye shall forsake the Lord and serve other gods, then he shall come upon you and afflict you, and consume you, because he has done you good.  21  And the people said to Joshua, Nay, but we will serve the Lord.  22  And Joshua said to the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves, that ye have chosen the Lord to serve him.  23  And now take away the strange gods that are among you, and set your heart right toward the Lord God of Israel.  24  And the people said to Joshua, We will serve the Lord, and we will hearken to his voice.

 

Now See:

Joh_6:41-71

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jesus does not Like Flesh balls to Be included on His Miracles

8/6/16

 

 

Church people (as in my youth) are so wrongly inclined to rejoice that people disobeyed Jesus…

 

WPNT on Mark_7:1-37: “(14) The news was so good they just couldn’t contain it.”

 

 

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Gen_45:24 KJV+  So he sentH7971 (H853) his brethrenH251 away, and they departed:H1980 and he saidH559 untoH413 them, See that ye fall not outH7264 H408 by the way.H1870

Gen_45:24 And he sent away his brothers, and they went; and he said to them, “Be not angry by the way.”

Gen_45:24  ἐξαπέστειλεν δὲ τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐπορεύθησαν· καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Μὴ ὀργίζεσθε ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ.

 

>>Scrip:

Disciples disputed along the way

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5/20/16

Gen_45:24  WEB So he [Jospeh] sent his brothers away, and they departed. He said to them, "See that you don't quarrel on the way."

Gen_45:24  CAB And he sent away his brothers, and they went; and he said to them, Be not angry by the way.

 

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Goofy soulish spiritualism

1/29/16

Jam: erthly, soulish, demonic...

False 'confirmations'

Deu 13 & 18

I (& We) have seen this many times from dirty demonized people!

Willfully possessed people go quickly back & forth from devil to 'god'...

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Jer22:-24 - listen to God's voice vs. the following context of following your own ways……

>> Dhg / log / no flesh perception? / mono vs. Paganism

 

 

Wis_14:30 Brenton  Howbeit for both causes shall they be justly punished: both because they thought not well of God, giving heed unto idols, and also unjustly swore in deceit, despising holiness.

 

 

Repent of Loving Vanity!!!

 

Wis_3:10-13 Brenton  But the ungodly shall be punished according to their own imaginations, which have neglected the righteous, and forsaken the Lord.  11  For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable:  12  Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:  13  Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls.

 

Wis_3:16-19 Brenton  As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shall be rooted out.  17  For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.  18  Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.  19  For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation.

 

 

 

It is clear that God is at war with humanism when He says…

- you will loath yourself!

- you will never again open your mouth!

- the heart of man is continually bent on evil (see Gen_6:)

- you will not say in your heart, ‘because of my righteousness God has blessed me’

- deny yourself, take up cross

 

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Forsake the Flesh

Those who are in the flesh cannot please God

The carnal mind is not subject to Gods law nor can it be

the flesh wars against... so that you cannot do what you want to

if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by spirit put to death misdeeds of body

acting like mear men

boast in the things that they know naturally

Think:

- roomates

agreement, selfishness, despising, compulsions, minding your own business

don't judge hidden motives: assume and act like it is all misinformation and that they are otherwise innocent, (unless there are cases like Simon the sorcerer- not hidden)

love covers a multitude of sins

Flesh gives up on God's supernatural ideal: It boasts in what we can know and do naturally.

It loves to setle for less, and rejoices when we forsake our full potential

the flesh is what tells us, "Noboy is perfect... We might as well get used to operating as fleshly humans..."

The carnal mind is fooled into prizing our sinful vanities and direspects the insistance and hope for the the perfection of God to show through our lives.

God says, "Don't my words do good to him who walks uprightly?" (Mic_2:7)

If they were doing right, then God's Words would be a prize to them. But the right words of God's perfecting high standard are an offense to the one following the flesh. 

Some are proud of being lead around by the nose by their own flesh and despise those who talk about freedom from it

Some love and defend that horible sinful body of death as though you were asking them to give up their best friend

A man will do anything against you and everyone else to keep his fleshlyness when he has fallen in love with it and forgotten God.

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Heresy is Ultimately Judged as Intentional

~11/1/17; 11/3/17; 3/19/18

Deu_13:1 WEB  If there arise in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give you a sign or a wonder,

Deu_13:1 LB  “And if there should arise within you a prophet, or one who dreams a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,

Deu_13:1  (13:2) Ἐὰν δὲ ἀναστῇ ἐν σοὶ προφήτης ἢ ἐνυπνιαζόμενος ἐνύπνιον καὶ δῷ σοι σημεῖον ἢ τέρας

Deu_13:2 WEB  and the sign or the wonder come to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them;

Deu_13:2 and the sign or the wonder come to pass which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods, which you know not’;

Deu_13:2  (13:3) καὶ ἔλθῃ τὸ σημεῖον ἢ τὸ τέρας, ὃ ἐλάλησεν πρὸς σὲ λέγων Πορευθῶμεν καὶ λατρεύσωμεν θεοῖς ἑτέροις, οὓς οὐκ οἴδατε,

Deu_13:3 WEB  you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your God proves you, to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deu_13:3 you shall not hearken to the words of that prophet, or the dreamer of that dream, because the Lord your God is testing you, to see whether you love your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deu_13:3  (13:4) οὐκ ἀκούσεσθε τῶν λόγων τοῦ προφήτου ἐκείνου ἢ τοῦ ἐνυπνιαζομένου τὸ ἐνύπνιον ἐκεῖνο, ὅτι πειράζει κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμᾶς εἰδέναι εἰ ἀγαπᾶτε κύριον τὸν θεὸν ὑμῶν ἐξ ὅλης τῆς καρδίας ὑμῶν καὶ ἐξ ὅλης τῆς ψυχῆς ὑμῶν.

Deu_13:4 WEB  You shall walk after Yahweh your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and you shall serve him, and cleave to him.

Deu_13:4 You shall follow the Lord your God, and fear Him, and you shall hear His voice, and attach yourselves to Him.

Deu_13:4  (13:5) ὀπίσω κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν πορεύεσθε καὶ αὐτὸν φοβηθήσεσθε καὶ τὰς ἐντολὰς αὐτοῦ φυλάξεσθε καὶ τῆς φωνῆς αὐτοῦ ἀκούσεσθε καὶ αὐτῷ προστεθήσεσθε.

Deu_13:5 WEB  That prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he has spoken rebellion against Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to draw you aside out of the way which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk in. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.

Deu_13:5 And that prophet or that dreamer of a dream shall die; for he has spoken to make you err from the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, who redeemed you from bondage, to thrust you out of the way which the Lord your God commanded you to walk in. So shall you abolish the evil from among you.

Deu_13:5  (13:6) καὶ ὁ προφήτης ἐκεῖνος ἢ ὁ τὸ ἐνύπνιον ἐνυπνιαζόμενος ἐκεῖνος ἀποθανεῖται· ἐλάλησεν γὰρ πλανῆσαί σε ἀπὸ κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου τοῦ ἐξαγαγόντος σε ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου τοῦ λυτρωσαμένου σε ἐκ τῆς δουλείας ἐξῶσαί σε ἐκ τῆς ὁδοῦ, ἧς ἐνετείλατό σοι κύριος ὁ θεός σου πορεύεσθαι ἐν αὐτῇ· καὶ ἀφανιεῖς τὸν πονηρὸν ἐξ ὑμῶν αὐτῶν.

Deu_13:6 WEB  If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend, who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known, you, nor your fathers;

Deu_13:6 “And if your brother by your father or mother, or your son, or daughter, or your wife in your bosom, or friend who is equal to your own soul, should entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known,

Deu_13:6  (13:7) Ἐὰν δὲ παρακαλέσῃ σε ὁ ἀδελφός σου ἐκ πατρός σου ἢ ἐκ μητρός σου ἢ ὁ υἱός σου ἢ ἡ θυγάτηρ σου ἢ ἡ γυνὴ ἡ ἐν κόλπῳ σου ἢ ὁ φίλος ὁ ἴσος τῆς ψυχῆς σου λάθρᾳ λέγων Βαδίσωμεν καὶ λατρεύσωμεν θεοῖς ἑτέροις, οὓς οὐκ ᾔδεις σὺ καὶ οἱ πατέρες σου,

Deu_13:7 WEB  of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near to you, or far off from you, from the one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth;

Deu_13:7 of the gods of the nations that are round about you, who are near you or at a distance from you, from one end of the earth to the other;

Deu_13:7  (13:8) ἀπὸ τῶν θεῶν τῶν ἐθνῶν τῶν περικύκλῳ ὑμῶν τῶν ἐγγιζόντων σοι ἢ τῶν μακρὰν ἀπὸ σοῦ ἀπ᾿ ἄκρου τῆς γῆς ἕως ἄκρου τῆς γῆς,

Deu_13:8 WEB  you shall not consent to him, nor listen to him; neither shall your eye pity him, neither shall you spare, neither shall you conceal him:

Deu_13:8 you shall not consent to him, neither shall you hearken to him; and your eye shall not spare him, you shall feel no regret for him, neither shall you at all protect him:

Deu_13:8  (13:9) οὐ συνθελήσεις αὐτῷ καὶ οὐκ εἰσακούσῃ αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐ φείσεται ὁ ὀφθαλμός σου ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ, οὐκ ἐπιποθήσεις ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ οὐδ᾿ οὐ μὴ σκεπάσῃς αὐτόν·

Deu_13:9 WEB  but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first on him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Deu_13:9 you shall surely report concerning him, and your hands shall be upon him among the first to slay him, and the hands of all the people at the last.

Deu_13:9  (13:10) ἀναγγέλλων ἀναγγελεῖς περὶ αὐτοῦ, αἱ χεῖρές σου ἔσονται ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν ἐν πρώτοις ἀποκτεῖναι αὐτόν, καὶ αἱ χεῖρες παντὸς τοῦ λαοῦ ἐπ᾿ ἐσχάτῳ,

Deu_13:10 WEB  You shall stone him to death with stones, because he has sought to draw you away from Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Deu_13:10 And they shall stone him with stones, and he shall die, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Deu_13:10  (13:11) καὶ λιθοβολήσουσιν αὐτὸν ἐν λίθοις, καὶ ἀποθανεῖται, ὅτι ἐζήτησεν ἀποστῆσαί σε ἀπὸ κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου τοῦ ἐξαγαγόντος σε ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου ἐξ οἴκου δουλείας.

Deu_13:11 WEB  All Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall not do any more such wickedness as this is in the midst of you.

Deu_13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall not again do according to this evil thing among you.

Deu_13:11  (13:12) καὶ πᾶς Ισραηλ ἀκούσας φοβηθήσεται καὶ οὐ προσθήσουσιν ἔτι ποιῆσαι κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα τὸ πονηρὸν τοῦτο ἐν ὑμῖν.

Deu_13:12 WEB  If you shall hear tell concerning one of your cities, which Yahweh your God gives you to dwell there, saying,

Deu_13:12 And if in one of your cities which the Lord God gives you to dwell in, you shall hear men saying,

Deu_13:12  (13:13) Ἐὰν δὲ ἀκούσῃς ἐν μιᾷ τῶν πόλεών σου, ὧν κύριος ὁ θεός σου δίδωσίν σοι κατοικεῖν σε ἐκεῖ, λεγόντων

Deu_13:13 WEB  Certain base fellows are gone out from the midst of you, and have drawn away the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known;

Deu_13:13 ‘Evil men have gone out from you, and have caused all the inhabitants of their land to fall away, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’, whom you knew not,’

Deu_13:13  (13:14) Ἐξήλθοσαν ἄνδρες παράνομοι ἐξ ὑμῶν καὶ ἀπέστησαν πάντας τοὺς κατοικοῦντας τὴν πόλιν αὐτῶν λέγοντες Πορευθῶμεν καὶ λατρεύσωμεν θεοῖς ἑτέροις, οὓς οὐκ ᾔδειτε,

Deu_13:14 WEB  then you shall inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is done in the midst of you,

Deu_13:14 then you shall inquire and ask, and search diligently, and behold, if the thing is clearly true, and this abomination has taken place among you,

Deu_13:14  (13:15) καὶ ἐρωτήσεις καὶ ἐραυνήσεις σφόδρα, καὶ ἰδοὺ ἀληθὴς σαφῶς ὁ λόγος, γεγένηται τὸ βδέλυγμα τοῦτο ἐν ὑμῖν,

Deu_13:15 WEB  you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein and its livestock, with the edge of the sword.

Deu_13:15 you shall utterly destroy all the inhabitants of that land with the edge of the sword; you shall solemnly curse it, and all the things that are in it.

Deu_13:15  (13:16) ἀναιρῶν ἀνελεῖς πάντας τοὺς κατοικοῦντας ἐν τῇ πόλει ἐκείνῃ ἐν φόνῳ μαχαίρας, ἀναθέματι ἀναθεματιεῖτε αὐτὴν καὶ πάντα τὰ ἐν αὐτῇ

Deu_13:16 WEB  You shall gather all its spoil into the midst of its street, and shall burn with fire the city, and all its spoil every whit, to Yahweh your God: and it shall be a heap forever; it shall not be built again.

Deu_13:16 And all its spoils you shall gather into its public ways, and you shall burn the city with fire, along with all its spoils publicly before the Lord your God; and it shall be uninhabited forever, it shall not be built again.’

Deu_13:16  (13:17) καὶ πάντα τὰ σκῦλα αὐτῆς συνάξεις εἰς τὰς διόδους αὐτῆς καὶ ἐμπρήσεις τὴν πόλιν ἐν πυρὶ καὶ πάντα τὰ σκῦλα αὐτῆς πανδημεὶ ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου, καὶ ἔσται ἀοίκητος εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα, οὐκ ἀνοικοδομηθήσεται ἔτι.

Deu_13:17 WEB  There shall cleave nothing of the devoted thing to your hand; that Yahweh may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and show you mercy, and have compassion on you, and multiply you, as he has sworn to your fathers;

Deu_13:17 And none of the cursed things shall cleave to your hand, that the Lord may turn from His fierce anger, and show you mercy, and pity you, and multiply you, as He swore to your fathers;

Deu_13:17  (13:18) οὐ προσκολληθήσεται ἐν τῇ χειρί σου οὐδὲν ἀπὸ τοῦ ἀναθέματος, ἵνα ἀποστραφῇ κύριος ἀπὸ θυμοῦ τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ καὶ δώσει σοι ἔλεος καὶ ἐλεήσει σε καὶ πληθυνεῖ σε, ὃν τρόπον ὤμοσεν κύριος τοῖς πατράσιν σου,

Deu_13:18 WEB  when you shall listen to the voice of Yahweh your God, to keep all his commandments which I command you this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of Yahweh your God.

Deu_13:18 if you will hear the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments, all that I charge you this day, to do that which is good and pleasing before the Lord your God.

Deu_13:18  (13:19) ἐὰν ἀκούσῃς τῆς φωνῆς κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου φυλάσσειν πάσας τὰς ἐντολὰς αὐτοῦ, ὅσας ἐγὼ ἐντέλλομαί σοι σήμερον, ποιεῖν τὸ καλὸν καὶ τὸ ἀρεστὸν ἐναντίον κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ σου.

>> Sync: SPI | JCH (Deu_13:5)

 

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Be Under Authority to Have It

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Non-contradiction Can Save You

>> 3/18/18 (recompiled from SPI to LO)

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Do Miracles Happen Today? (Craig Keener)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pUlP08MfI&feature=share

>> Sync: LO | SPI

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Renaming / Retitling

encounter

interface

dynamics

exploits

apprehension

seasing

 

Idols

>> where is the main teaching????

>> comp: MVP!! -- any recompiling in place??

 

Behind an Idol is A Demon

Deu_32:16 WEB  They moved him to jealousy with strange gods. They provoked him to anger with abominations.

Deu_32:16 CAB  They provoked Me to anger with strange gods; with their abominations they bitterly angered Me.

Deu_32:17  They sacrificed to demons, which were no God, to gods that they didn't know, to new gods that came up of late, which your fathers didn't dread.

Deu_32:17  They sacrificed to demons, and not to God; to gods whom they knew not: new and fresh gods came in, whom their fathers knew not.

>> Gr??????????

Deu_32:21  They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God. They have provoked me to anger with their vanities. I will move them to jealousy with those who are not a people. I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Deu_32:21  They have provoked Me to jealousy by that which is not God, they have exasperated Me with their idols; and I will provoke them to jealousy with them that are not a nation, I will anger them with a nation void of understanding.

>> Gr??????????

 

Deu_9:12 WEB  Yahweh said to me, Arise, get down quickly from hence; for your people whom you have brought forth out of Egypt have corrupted themselves; they have quickly turned aside out of the way which I commanded them; they have made them a molten image.

Deu_9:12 And the Lord said to me, ‘Arise, go down quickly from here, for your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt have transgressed; they have gone aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them, and have made themselves a molten image.’

Deu_9:12  καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Ἀνάστηθι κατάβηθι τὸ τάχος ἐντεῦθεν, ὅτι ἠνόμησεν ὁ λαός σου, οὓς ἐξήγαγες ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου· παρέβησαν ταχὺ ἐκ τῆς ὁδοῦ, ἧς ἐνετείλω αὐτοῖς· ἐποίησαν ἑαυτοῖς χώνευμα.

 

 

Laying on of Hands

6/1/17

 

Num_8:10 WEB You shall present the Levites before Yahweh. The children of Israel shall lay their hands on the Levites,
Num
_8:10 And you shall bring the Levites before the Lord; and the sons of Israel shall lay their hands upon the Levites.
Num_8:10 καὶ προσάξεις τοὺς Λευίτας ἔναντι κυρίου, καὶ ἐπιθήσουσιν οἱ υἱοὶ Ισραηλ τὰς χεῖρας αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τοὺς Λευίτας,

 

Stars

Other dates (~2009-2013); 3/14/17 (recompiled)

Gen_1:14

Gen_1:16 & Psa_8:3-4

Gen_15:5

Job_9:9

Job_38:31-33

Jdg_5:20

Amos_5:8

 

 

Meditation -- Increasing Perception!

Increasing your mental & Heart, perception filter for everything that goes through your heart

6/15/03 (Word: Created; original title: Meditate); 7/24/04 (Word: Modified); 3/6/17 (recompiled; re-titled: Meditation -- Increasing Perception!)

 

Isaac went out to the field to meditate

>> TSK

>> commentaries?

 

Jesus praying in the morning

 

>> ES Search for meditate

>> compile w multiple versions, He & Gr??

 

>> get / quote these:

Gen_24:63; Jos_1:8; Psa_1:2; Psa_63:6; Psa_77:12; Psa_119:15; ; Psa_119:23; Psa_119:48; Psa_119:78; Psa_119:148; Psa_143:5; 1Ti_4:14-15;

 

Bad meditation: Luk_21:14

 

Think: You already know how to worry!

Worry, and Lust… Phi_4:8 ‘True noble just pure lovely good report’

 

Faithful with little: MT 25:21-23,     LK 12:47 "That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. [48] But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

Ps 63

“I think about you in the night waches… on my bed…”

 

 

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1/7/04 (Word: Created/Modified); 3/6/17 (recompiled)

1TI_5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

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True Prophets

>> compare: RAS -- Church leadership

>> Compare: Harsh Prophesies -- Tru

 

10/3/04 (Word: Created/Modified); 3/6/17 (recompiled)

 

Pro 11:_ – “He who is crule troubles his own flesh”

 

Keith Green

>> Not prophetic at all…

Eventually he realized this, but not unto integrity…

 

Leonard Ravenhill

2/10/05 (original title: Prophet); 3/6/17 (recompiled)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Ravenhill

http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?speakeronly=true&currsection=sermonsspeaker&keyword=Leonard_Ravenhill

http://earlychurch.com/Ravenhill.php

 

>> See: letter to Mike about Leonard Ravenhill

 

Most everything that Leonard Ravenhill said was True and very nesisary. But thow he said good things, there was virtually nothing prophetic what-so-ever about Linard. Practically speaking, he did not have a prophetic bone in his body!

     Ravenhil was a blunt speaker, and such bluness is nesisary for such a perverted church culture as ours. But Nathanial was also a blunt speaker but Jesus did not say, 'This is a Prophet indeed' but He said, "Here is an Isrealight indeed."  Bluntness does not a prophet make, though it may signify a True salvation if rightly performed.

     Jesus recognized that the bluntness of Nathanial, showed that He did not hide reality from those he was around.  Upon displaying this bluntness Jesus certified Him as being a True Irealight and having no guile, but Jesus was not distorted as we are.  Jesus did not interpret bluntness as a prophetic quality.

 

 

Do Everything Based on Favor

This first requires perception of the clean substance, so that means almost no one can do it unless they are discipled by the Righteous Assembly

11/30/04 (original title: PRINCIPAL OF FAVOR; +Word: Created); 2/23/17 (recompiled)

>> Pop: Fav

 

Die to Your Personality

7/17/04 (Original title: Personality; Word: Created); 2/23/17 (recompiled)

 

Godliness periodically awaits distinctly outside of the comforts of your personality.  Therefore,

Whoever loves his life will lose it, and whoever looses his life for my sake and the sake of the gospel will find it

     Many in an attempted appreciation for the distinctions we all bear between one another, have restricted themselves from moving beyond their natural familiar comforts into invaluable freedom from sinful tendencies.  They rigidly retort their slightest convictions to change by insisting, “This is not Wrong! This is only my God-given personality preference, and I don't need to feel bad about it.”

     “I’m just a talker and I don’t need to feel bad that I tend to talk more than others…” -You say.   But have you considered believing the scripture that says,

Where there are many words, sin is not absent

     That is not to say that we must never have fun talking together, but that we must keep our selves in check and realize that there is something inherently sinful about always talking.  The same is true and applies with other personality preferences.  Many, at times, can be and are totally sinful.

 

 

Darkness

2/4/05; 2/22/17 (recompiled)

 

1Ch_15:29 KJVR  And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looking out at a window saw king David dancing and playing: and she despised him in her heart.

 

In Danger of Darkness, Lacking Philao Love

12/30/04; 2/22/17 (recompiled)

 

Do not despise anyone in your heart.

Do not let your heart secretly despise someone and claim it as innocence.

"That person is ugly"

-Are they ugly or do you have a critical eye and a despising heart? You can't aford to despise someone in your heart, or your going to be in Danger of Darkness.

 

Be quick O self, to declare and hold someone as innocent when you have a conflict with them.  They may indeed be wrong in the sight of God, but your heart must hold them as though they had moral innocents, because of their ignorance.  You must not hold charges against them, as being offended and hurt, when you go to resolve the conflict with them. It is not that Love pretends that sin doe not exist, but that "Love covers a multitude of sins."

     "When your brother sins against you, rebuke him."  This is clearly true, but do such things with as much inocents and harmlessness within yourself as possible.  When you hold them to their offence, then the Lord has no room.  Rebuke him holding no charges yourself against him and let the Lord hold him to his fault.  God may indeed convict him using your mouth, but He will not use your heat or mouth when it holds on to charges.  But if you confront being offended by his sin against you, then you go by yourself in darkness.  Hurt without forgiveness is darkness.  This usually results from feelings of guilt that we don't associate with "pain" - though the gulf of guilt is opressivly and exceivly painful!  So this concerning darkness can mean: 1. You are hurt and unforgiven by God, or 2. You are hurt and are not forgiving the one you see as the cause.

or that 3. Your judging them mercilessly because you feel mercilessly condemned yourself by GOD or even 4. all of the above (wich is likely the case).  All of these are darkness, and promote being given over to demons.  They often produce fasle 'prophetic' attitutes among zealous church people.  They can disply themselves as being blunt, bitter, or even as being a revolutionary.  Martin Luther tipified the last one by saying things like, "I can't write or preach or anything unless I do it in rage"

 

 

     When I say what darkness is, it may be hard to apply to demons of darkness.  But they were rejected by God and cast out of Heaven with out hope of ever being forgiven. They are "hurt", if you will, and they are without forgiveness.  But the principal here with demons is that they don't have Hope, and Hope is the opposit of darkness.  This is one of the mysterious reasons that Hope has gained such a high place among the top qualities to have: "These three remain...hope..."

One Truth to recognise is that when you have faith in the message of God's Love, then Hope will be produced in you.

Such is not possible for demons, and the same state they care to impress upon you, if you will let them have such an oportunity by flirting with darkness.

There are always many counterfits for Faith Hope and Love, and the man who has darkness will also have the counterfits of these three.

 

 

 

Darkness add-0n 1

Darkness and insanity are inseperable. Yes it is True. Darkness is Truly the first step to insanity, and there is no darkness apart from the presents of evil spirits.

It is imposible to indulge in darkness and not be enticed by insanity. We must understand that God did not mistitle it or joke of it when when He talked about people's Understanding being darkened.  Thus we have the spirit of an unsound mind.  We see that the lack of right understanding necesitates darkness, and that unsound mind that it produces is not absent of an unclean spirit.

 

Darkness Add-on

1Ch_15:29 KJVR  And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looking out at a window saw king David dancing and playing: and she despised him in her heart.

 

Depression

3/31/12; 3/16/17 (recompiled)

 

I would generally distinguish depression from Job and Paul's disparing of life

you may be tempted with homosexuality, but never agree with it

so also with depression

 

self-imposed afliction that is not profitable

 

Be disciplined to rejoice and hope in goodness passages every day.

 

zeal is the oposit of depression

 

encouragement verses

 

it is the difference between life and death

 

be diligent to enter rest

 

be eager to always need things dealt with

 

don't leave snares in your soul... ask for help... pray without ceasing... cry out for surgery!

 

with the power of those encouragement verses go ask God to do surgery on you.

 

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Truths about Depression And Emotional Hunger

10/29/04 (Word: Created); 11/16/04 (Word: Modified)

 

Never go to sleep when depressed, in as much as it is in your power to avoid.  Know that if you sleep on a depressed note that you dishonor God, and it is threw your obedient faith that you honor God by your sleep.  The one who is overcome by sleep because of the weakening darkness oppressing his soul, gives into the pressure of the depression, and gives it strength by covering over its presence. 

     It is a matter of taking up ones cross to turn the opposite direction of the inclination given by depression.  The default pull of the darkened soul is to fill the insatiable core craving for emotional filling with a substitute comfort.  When depressed we will flee to sleep, pick ourselves up by filling our ears with music, cleave ever so faithlessly to our spouse, or even dive into constant social interaction.  All of these are counterfeits and they deny us the essential hunger that necessitates our vibrant connection with Jesus.

     Music is for the soul that is full of the emotional fulfillment found in Jesus.  I am not talking so much here about avoiding church because you are not yet filled.  I am talking of the modernized bent to always have music going, and to seek emotional filling by listening to music.  You will not properly ingest music until you are already emotionally full of Jesus.  To use music to “get you going” when you are down is a perversion in that it forfeits the need and optionless demand to meet with the One who fills our cup.

     Music is for rejoicing not for entertainment.  As it says,

Is anyone joyfull?  Let him sing psalms

Please bear with my variations of terminology, and do not think that I mean that we cannot sing when we are depressed.  These are called “laments.”  Nor do I say that it is improper to sing songs of gratitude to intentionally point the discouraged soul toward God.  What is wrong is to use music for entertainment, supposing that it could truly fill us.  In this we avoid insisting that our soul believe God for filling, and our insistant unwavering desporate plea to God that results.  Music is not bad.  But our omissions of Love toward God by it are perverse and woeful.

   When I write of  ‘cleaving faithlessly to our spouse’ and ‘diving into social interaction’ I am not opposing being comforted by spouses and friends.  But the soul that is overwhelmed with the gnawing hunger for emotional help, must not reactionally grasp for their spouse, or even for their friends who seem to be familiar natural emotion-fillers.  Somehow we wrongly supose with in our selves that they would be readally accesable for effective filling.  We are bizarly disapointed as our obsessional hope is usually denied up front, and even when it is not evidently denyed, the problem is covered over and avoided so as to never be dealt with, by generating a false sense of final well-being.

     Even when we are finally disappointed as they are not fullfilling that misuse that we thought was proper, we continue in our dismayed denied hope still holding (even uncontiously) that they were our answer that is not of yet answering.  They are not to be your emotion fillers.  No, even your spouse has never been intended to be your fulfillment.  But it is God who is, and it is by our turning aside to substitutes that we forfeit His comfort.

     Again, we cannot say that we should sever ourselves away from spouses and friends until we are fulfilled.  Many of us would then live mostly as hermits. 

 

But that we embrace the fact that our realisation of relational fullfillment comes only threw first being filled by Jesus.

 

 

Depression is the unfulfillment of emotional hunger, combined with the expectation that it will continue to be unfulfilled.  Hope is the expectation of emotional hungers being met based on spiritual eyesight.  As it says,

 

Who hopes for what he already has?…  Hope that is seen is no hope at all… Hope does not disappoint because the love of God has been poured out in to our hearts…

 

     False hope disappoints, because it is not based on Spiritual eyesight. 

     Though Hope necessitates emotional hungers being presently unfulfilled, (especially meaning in this age) because “who hopes for what he already has?” it does not mean that we are not to be made every bit emotionally whole. But it does clearly say,

 

Jesus healed him… every bit whole

 

And

 

3Jo_1:2 WEB  Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be healthy, even as your soul [specifically including emotions] prospers.

 

And most of all it says

 

 You fill my mouth with good things

 

We should be put in mind to understand that when fasting, more important than the physical hunger experienced, is the resulting emotional hunger.  Fasting is a way of specifically putting ourselves in an emotional vulnerability to seek God.  We will not receive comfort from food, so that we will specifically be driven to find it in Jesus.  So if when we are not fasting God will literally fill our mouth with good things, He will all the more fill our mouth spiritually and emotionally when we hunger after Him.  Indeed, if we did not have emotional hungers at all, when would we get around to seeking God for fulfillment?

     So God will fill us emotionally, but if He has not presently done so, we have Hope that empowers us to seek Him and believe that He will.  For,

 

Whoever comes to God MUST first [1.] believe hat He is, and [2.] that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

 

Before this it says without such we cannot please God.

 

With out faith it is impossible to please Him

 

So if we don’t believe that He is good to reward us for seeking Him it is not pleasing to Him.

 

 

 

 

Cave Connection ’05

Dust · Image · Spirit

 

10/2/05 (+Word: Created); 10/8/05 (Word: Printed); 10/10/05 (Word: Modified); 3/7/17 (recompiled)

The Uprising Youth Ministry · JDressel@hotmail.com · JosiahsScott@msn.com

Josiahs Scott · JosiahsScott@msn.com · 10/2/05

Originally written for Jason Dressel's youth-group campout, October 7th - 8th, 2005.

 

J-Dressel Opener

How God created man… God had a plan

Deception in man distorts image…

False image of what man is supposed to look like

Paint analogy

God had a plan, and sin destroyed every good thing that God did, but He has not given up on us.

 

 

1. Dust

“What are some styles of cloths/cars etc.?”

Ever thought that you looked good but didn’t

Swing across creak analogy

Ú We still think that dust is good and don’t realize how ugly it looks in reality

 

We must realize the good image that God originally intended was cursed and has had the divine spark that made it valuable, quenched and killed, (The day you eat this you will die).

What was once good (the body) has now become evil because of sin; Now we must hate this life to gain real life.

 

What do we love? Are we going to invest in flesh or spirit?

 

A. “Dust” calls us to Humility

You’ve got to be humble [God opposes proud: Jas_4:6, 1Pe_5:5-6]

Above is where prideful people are; below is where you realize: you’re just dust

 

B. Few Are Saved Because

your Desire for Dust Destroys your Divine Destiny

 

One said to him, ‘Lord, are they few who are saved?’ He said to them,  24  ‘Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able,’ (Lk 13:23-24 WEB; also think Jn 12:39 “Could not believe…”).”

 

What’s up with that? · Is it like “No girls allowed” (boy’s clubhouses)? -no-

 

 

Jesus, speaking to a follower [Mat_18:1]:

…Truly I say to you, Unless you are converted and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of Heaven, (Mat_18:3 MKJV).”

 

 

 

C. “Dust” or Discipleship? -- which do you choose?

How many times do we think that something is good when it’s not?

Hard Scriptures:

 

Luk_14:25-27 WEB  Now great multitudes were going with him. He turned and said to them,  26  "If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple.   27  Whoever doesn't bear his own cross, and come after me, can't be my disciple.

14:33 WEB  So therefore whoever of you who doesn't renounce all that he has, he can't be my disciple.

Joh_12:25 WEB  He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life.

 

-Don’t have a dishonest value for this sin-cursed hell-bound life of dust-

 

D. A Caterpillar Analogy?

A caterpillar (“wormlike creature”) must undergo radical change before they can fly as a butterfly. And only from realizing that you are a worm first will you be able to set yourself aside to change.

 

But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people, (Psa_22:6 WEB).”

[He realizes that life without connection to Jesus is worthless.]

 

 “The caterpillar has many defenses such a false eye spots and spiky spines, “but, in spite of these devises, very few caterpillars that are hatched ever reach the adult stage. [Butterfly] Larger animals eat them, and parasites burrow into their bodies and kill them ”

(The World Book Encyclopedia on Butterflies; It also defines a caterpillar as a “wormlike creature”)

 

 

Hit your arm and say, “this can’t go to heaven”

 

 

 

E. Eternity!

Ecc_3:11 WEB  He has also set eternity in their hearts, yet so that man can't find out the work that God has done from the beginning even to the end.

 

The only things that mater are the things that are eternal. Our hearts are crying out for a heritage that reaches beyond this life of dust!

 

All of this is not for your harm but for your salvation. The bad news about our dusty state shows us, there’s more to (real) life than dust…

 

2. [Image; Dueñas]

“IMAGE IS EVERYTHING” ?


3. Spirit; The image that’s more than Dust

This is where you get Defined with a different Destiny than Dust and Destruction

 

Friendship with world = Hatret

Can’t serve 2 Maters

 

Review: Few make it, Most inherit the heritage of the flesh

 

 

· Dentist must graduate before he can lawfully operate on teeth.

[Born again Jn 3:3-7]

· A Caterpillar must sprout wings before it will ever fly

Ú New skin, New mouth (some of you need to get a new mouth!)

 

“…as we have taken on the image of the one of dust, let’s also take on the image of the heavenly.  50  Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God… (1Co_15:49-50 KJB).”

 

 

Story: Little Johnny and Big Daddy

Story: Prodigal Son

Ú They realized that their way was bad and they forsook it

 

Incorperate an ilustration

 

Shirt Analogy

Eze_36:25-29 WEB  I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.  26  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.  27  I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my ordinances, and do them.  28  …I will be your God.  29  I will save you from all your uncleanness…

 

Ú Take off the old dirty shirt put on new shirt

 

 

 

[Think: Rom_12:1-2…]

 

Extra Thoughts

 

Something to Digest:

How is that only by embracing the essence of our weak humanity, the reality that we are but dust, is made the only means by which we can obtain true spirituality?  By humility we see our frailty and so perceive the vanity of this life, and this sight compels us to hate it, and this hatred is the only way to remove the roadblock that antagonizes our salvation.  Only then will we move from the death of dust into spiritual life.  How long will we stare at this antagonist, considering its substance, till we become indignant and wroth enough to throw it out of the way?

 

Peter Pan says you need “pixy dust” to fly, Jesus says you need to be converted from dust to “fly” and make it to heaven. Some philosophies say you need to get out of a cave to get spiritual, but Jesus shows us that we need to get low and humble and we truly find God in caves and “holes in the ground.”

 

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Some Scriptures

As we have probably already looked at:

Gen_1:26-27 WEB  God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."  27  God created man in his own image. In God's image he created him; male and female he created them.

 

But also think on these:

 

Dust

Gen_18:27 KJV  And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:

 

Psa_144:3-4 KJB LORD, what is man that You notice him! or the son of man, that You take him into account!  4  Man is like vanity: his days are as a shadow that pass away.

 

Isa_64:8 KJB But now, O LORD, You are our father; we are the clay, and You our potter; and we all are the work of Your hand.

 

Image

Physical

Psa_139:13-18 MKJV  For You have possessed my inward parts; You have covered me in my mother's womb.  14  I will praise You; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Your works are marvelous and my soul knows it very well.  15  My bones were not hidden from You when I was made in secret and skillfully formed in the lowest parts of the earth.  16  Your eyes saw my embryo; and in Your book all my members were written, the days they were formed, and not one was among them.  17  How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God! How great is the sum of them!  18  If I should count them, they are more than the sand; when I awake, I am still with You.

 

Spirit

Eph_4:23-24 WEB  and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,  24  and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

 

Don't lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his doings,  10  and have put on the new man, that is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator, (Col_3:9-10 WEB).”

 

2Co_3:18 WEB  But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the Spirit.

 

Both

Isa_43:7 MKJV  everyone who is called by My name; for I have created him for My glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

 

So also it is written, ‘The first man, Adam, became a living soul.’ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. …The first man is of the earth, made of dust. The second man is the Lord from heaven.  48  As is the one made of dust, such are those who are also made of dust; and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.  49  As we have borne the image of those made of dust, let's also bear the image of the heavenly.  50  Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood can't inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption, (1Co_15:45-50 WEB).”

 

 

If you are humble then there is so much more for you than “just a spark” of God; if your not then never mind all of this because it does not apply to you.

(Didn’t come for healthy, poor in spirit)

 

Many men of God were made in caves

(Elijah, David… “wholes in the ground….”)